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L55[05:51:38] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/d48f2baece1d3d2c6fbd10c5da702674/tumblr_p4ietqdeky1shiv3ro7_540.png
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L60[06:41:34] <Fluburtur> LANDEKLAPPEN https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186669324500993/418024709112856576/20180227133750_1.jpg
L61[06:42:08] <Mat2ch> pffff
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L63[06:44:51] <Gasher_> Fluburtur, clap twice for landing?
L64[06:45:34] <Truga> nice warthunder
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L76[07:57:40] <Black_Eagle> i'm going slightly mad
L77[07:57:56] <Black_Eagle> i've been troubleshooting a phantom force for an hour now
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L79[07:58:21] <Black_Eagle> SAS off, all engines off, no input, my craft steers to the right
L80[07:58:33] <Black_Eagle> same steering occurs mid flight, too
L81[07:59:38] <Truga> did you zero the trim?
L82[08:00:12] <Black_Eagle> no trim
L83[08:00:18] <Truga> no idea then
L84[08:00:27] <Black_Eagle> also non-steerable landing gear
L85[08:00:35] <Black_Eagle> it almost glides sideways
L86[08:00:47] <Black_Eagle> https://i.imgur.com/G0TSUcR.png
L87[08:00:54] <Truga> well if it's on the ground it's because ksp is bad at ground
L88[08:01:07] <Truga> no idea about it happening in flight tho
L89[08:02:26] <Fluburtur> china
L90[08:02:31] <Fluburtur> wher my 3d printer
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L92[08:05:54] <Black_Eagle> https://i.imgur.com/DilvR3M.png booted ksp, loaded the craft, touched nothing. prograde goes off center and the craft slides to the right
L93[08:06:21] <Black_Eagle> i think i've checked every angle twice with the snapping tool to make sure i haven't done anything asymmetrical
L94[08:06:38] <Black_Eagle> but for the love of it i can't figure out what is going on and why
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L96[08:16:16] <RandomJeb> it looks like that front wheel is turning
L97[08:16:32] <RandomJeb> with no control input
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L99[08:17:57] <RandomJeb> if the main body doesn't have rear wheels it might be putting too much strain on joints and they warp a little and you start getting a touch of kraken drive
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L102[08:30:10] <FltAdmVonSpiz> does anyone know when GTO satellites makes their plane change maneuvre to be on the equator?
L103[08:30:17] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I asume its folded in with the circularisation burn at GEO altitude
L104[08:30:20] <FltAdmVonSpiz> but I don't know for sure
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L114[09:08:38] <halcyon_b> According to Braeunig.us:
L115[09:09:05] <halcyon_b> Typically, orbital transfers require changes in both the size and the plane of the orbit, such as transferring from an inclined parking orbit at low altitude to a zero-inclination orbit at geosynchronous altitude. We can do this transfer in two steps: a Hohmann transfer to change the size of the orbit and a simple plane change to make the orbit equatorial. A more efficient method (less total change
L116[09:09:11] <halcyon_b> in velocity) would be to combine the plane change with the tangential burn at apogee of the transfer orbit.
L117[09:10:59] <halcyon_b> So you're right, it's folded into the burn at apogee of the transfer orbit that makes the whole thing geosynchronous
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L129[09:28:55] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPyUp6_E7sg
L130[09:28:56] <kmath> YouTube - VSauce but out of context
L131[09:29:16] <ve2dmn> Risky click
L132[09:31:52] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDl_LO6nOnI did you see this?
L133[09:32:06] <Fluburtur> no
L134[09:32:12] <Fluburtur> I was playing stellaris I think
L135[09:33:58] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSjFVH2Zc5E
L136[09:33:59] <kmath> YouTube - God Save The Queen
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L139[09:46:01] <ve2dmn> hunter2monkey
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L141[09:47:05] <Eddi|zuHause> ******monkey?
L142[09:47:36] <ve2dmn> oups, forgot the most important bit
L143[09:47:42] <ve2dmn> hunter2!monkey
L144[09:47:47] <ve2dmn> There
L145[09:49:33] <ve2dmn> (I'm writing a Readme file and needed a crappy password example)
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L151[10:03:42] <FltAdmVonSpiz> thanks halcyon_b
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L153[10:07:25] <Althego> hehe out of context. but i like the secular talk kyle out of context videos better, there was one just less than a day ago
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L156[10:33:33] <ve2dmn> https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/80kkzo/sideeffect_of_using_wing_strakes_as_actual_wings/
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L158[10:39:57] <Althego> hehe
L159[10:40:09] <Althego> look, a flock of jet fighters
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L171[11:33:16] <Althego> heh 12 hours until spacex launch (if not postponed)
L172[11:33:35] <Althego> i will be up at that time, but cant watch it
L173[11:34:00] <Althego> 4.2 hours until atlas v, a bit late
L174[11:34:06] <Althego> *4.5
L175[11:34:23] <Althego> oh wait, no, 2 days and 3.5 hours
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L186[11:57:35] <ve2dmn> .nextlaunch
L187[11:57:36] <Nextlaunch2> Falcon 9 Full Thrust | Hispasat 30W-6 (Hispasat 1F) - https://www.youtube.com/c/spacex/live - TBD/NET March 1, 2018 05:34:00 UTC
L188[11:59:47] <ve2dmn> http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=142885
L189[12:02:09] <ve2dmn> I wonder what Auroras looks like on Mars, Venus or Jupiter
L190[12:02:55] <Althego> eh, another delay?
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L193[12:05:16] <Black_Eagle> RandomJeb yeah, it could be that :/
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L196[12:15:04] <Kalpa> Jeb didn't survive this one... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/376364782732836865/418108692639121438/unknown.png
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L199[12:26:36] <oren> ve2dmn: I think planets with no magnetic fied would not have an aurora
L200[12:26:46] <oren> lik the moon doesn't
L201[12:27:02] <Althego> you need an atmosphere too
L202[12:27:30] <ve2dmn> With a big enough solar wind, you could still have an aurora
L203[12:27:56] <Mathuin> Because the sun is force-feeding you a temporary atmosphere. :-P
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L214[13:28:14] <Althego> http://vid.pr0gramm.com/2018/02/27/5fb8071592d517f8.mp4
L215[13:28:57] <ve2dmn> http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/34778784
L216[13:30:41] <ve2dmn> Last time I had a proper Flight stick, they were still sold using joystick ports
L217[13:31:02] <Althego> hehe
L218[13:31:13] <Althego> i have one now and it is pointless because of how ksp uses them
L219[13:31:32] <ve2dmn> I have not tried KSP with a gamepad
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L224[13:46:22] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186669324500993/418130954628890634/20180227204212_1.jpg
L225[13:48:47] <Draconiator> https://youtu.be/ea-Poo9Cx9Q
L226[13:48:47] <kmath> YouTube - Humanity on the Internet
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L228[14:00:00] <Althego> https://imgur.com/gallery/b21EcxE
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L232[14:07:05] <Mathuin> https://www.iau.org/news/announcements/detail/ann18010/ -- new coordinate systems, huh, wonder if KSP will change anything (or mods like RSS/RO)
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L238[14:09:36] <ve2dmn> "Of particular interest in this report is the adoption by the IAU of new equations describing the orientation of Mars (from Kuchynka et al., 2014), that provide a significant improvement in determining coordinates on Mars over time"
L239[14:10:02] <ve2dmn> AKA, even the IAU has trouble with precision
L240[14:11:20] <Mathuin> Once we land humans, that point can become the prime meridian I guess?
L241[14:12:28] <ve2dmn> I doubt it. Who want to redo all the Earth coordinates to match that new meridian.... crazy.
L242[14:20:52] <Althego> hehe
L243[14:21:05] <Althego> i think there is already one on mars
L244[14:21:28] <Althego> just a bit harder to do, because only natural landmarks
L245[14:22:51] <ve2dmn> Althego: If I am to believe all the books out there, the prime meridian always goes through either Paris or Greenwich... So name a rock Paris-Greenwish: Problem solved
L246[14:24:08] <ve2dmn> "I thereby name this random rock I found on the ground, the prime meridian. From now on, all coordinate.... oups, I dropped it... Which one was it again?"
L247[14:26:21] <Althego> seems to be quite boring
L248[14:26:23] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airy-0
L249[14:27:35] <Mathuin> I like the story.
L250[14:29:12] <ve2dmn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_meridian#Prime_meridian_on_other_planetary_bodies
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L263[14:50:05] <Exbyde> Hello
L264[14:50:07] <Mod9000> Hello, Exbyde
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L266[14:50:52] <ve2dmn> goodbye
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L292[16:29:00] * darsie found another monolith at the Mun: http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot201.png
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L297[16:58:14] <lordcirth> darsie, can I see a closeup of the lander? Is that the SETI probe core?
L298[16:58:32] <darsie> It's the RGU.
L299[16:58:46] <darsie> stock
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L301[17:03:09] <darsie> lordcirth: http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot202.png
L302[17:04:27] <lordcirth> Oh neat. Very compact. How much Dv? That's a lot of batteries; I'd probably feel compelled to use a single bigger one. I like low part count.
L303[17:08:07] <darsie> http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot204.png
L304[17:10:43] <darsie> http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot205.png
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L306[17:11:02] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
L307[17:12:35] <darsie> lordcirth: 5397 m/s when full: http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot206.png
L308[17:12:57] <darsie> But high gravity losses at landing cause of low thrust.
L309[17:16:12] <darsie> To get into the pit near Mun's pole with an anomaly I had to land next to the pit, recharge batteries and then go down the pit without sun. Took some hopping to get right to the anomaly and used up most of the EC. But it was just a monolith, so I didn't bother to fly better and just reloaded.
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L311[17:19:35] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/a1d63d2290c176f0a00d4028f6a6448e/tumblr_p2vkafdfmd1t29n42o1_540.jpg
L312[17:19:50] <darsie> A 1000 EC battery would require a longer fairing, making the launcher a bit heavier.
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L315[17:25:46] <lordcirth> darsie, wow, that's a tiny launcher. Nice!
L316[17:25:59] <darsie> yeah :)
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L318[17:26:34] <lordcirth> I've been playing with Sigma Dimensions at 2x scale; makes designing rockets hard and interesting all over again
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L320[17:29:40] <lordcirth> darsie, this is the kind of beast I had to build to get 7 tourists to Minmus: https://imgur.com/a/vhgTB
L321[17:32:13] <Draconiator> Always wanted to explore one of those canyons on Mun with a rover.
L322[17:33:24] <darsie> I didn't bother with tourists in my last stock, normal career.
L323[17:38:15] <lordcirth> I normally don't either, but iirc I was playing with Tourism Plus, which gives you a special bonus contract to kick off space tourism. And I realized that at scale I could make a good profit.
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L325[17:39:05] <lordcirth> Ok, so the SETI science ju mini has a major downside - it's denser than kerbin water.
L326[17:39:39] <lordcirth> I had to wait for it to hit the seafloor 1km down before I could recover. Thankfully it didn't implode.
L327[17:40:52] <Fluburtur> eh submarines are fun
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L329[17:42:40] <GuestBanana> okay so i have no idea how to feel about taylor swift's reputation (album) now
L330[17:44:39] <UmbralRaptor> GuestBanana: wrong channel?
L331[17:46:09] <GuestBanana> lol no but thanks for caring about my sanity
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L333[17:46:47] <GuestBanana> there were some good songs, but it just doesn't feel right, coming from someone that was country eight years ago
L334[17:47:09] <GuestBanana> (sorry about my comma usage; i wanted to portray that swift was the "someone")
L335[17:49:00] <GuestBanana> I don't appreciate her careless idea of dating relationships, especially after her teens; but that might just be a personal thing
L336[17:49:22] <GuestBanana> oh, I'm sorry, that's crossing the line a bit, I won't continue that tangent
L337[17:49:30] <lordcirth> GuestBanana, this is very far off topic.
L338[17:49:38] <GuestBanana> lo siento, senor
L339[17:49:45] <sirkut> https://i.imgur.com/T2LjPad.jpg
L340[17:49:58] <sirkut> here i'll share something im working on to break the off topic lol
L341[17:49:59] <GuestBanana> (that means, I'm sorry, sir (can easily be changed to madam))
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L343[17:50:13] <GuestBanana> Cool!
L344[17:51:09] <sirkut> 4 year hiatus, coming back now that i have some time
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L346[17:53:18] <lordcirth> wow that's a long time. Tons of changes since then
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L348[17:53:55] <sirkut> started on it in october '14, so yeah things have changed BUT my code hasn't so that was a good thing
L349[17:53:55] <lordcirth> That's what, v0.22 ?
L350[17:54:26] <sirkut> maybe? i dont remember
L351[17:54:51] <sirkut> i know as soon as i had Infernal Robotics finally working (i think that was 0.19) i worked on it some more then messed with this
L352[17:54:53] <lordcirth> Wiki says that released Oct 2014
L353[17:55:08] <sirkut> oh and my animator plugin which i never did release
L354[17:55:10] <lordcirth> Are you planning on playing mostly stock at first?
L355[17:55:23] <sirkut> who me? nah i love mods
L356[17:55:46] <sirkut> i just dont use them when coding, takes too long to load the game if i kept all the mods i like
L357[17:56:07] <sirkut> compile, load game, test, doesnt work? close game, repeat.
L358[17:58:01] <GuestBanana> sirkut: what kinds of mods have you made, and are you planning on releasing new projects to the public (i.e. forums)?
L359[17:59:34] <sirkut> the two main ones were Infernal Robotics (which i'm sure most have seen) and a "dev" mod called DevHelper
L360[18:00:11] <sirkut> once i get the magnet code going I'll tidy up the rest of the code and release it on the forum as I have the others
L361[18:01:25] <GuestBanana> Wait, so you were the ORIGINAL developer of IR?
L362[18:01:48] <sirkut> yup
L363[18:02:07] * GuestBanana bows deeply in respect for his elders
L364[18:02:19] <sirkut> pfft no need for that :)
L365[18:03:17] <sirkut> the others who added the sequencer mod and other goodies deserve the bow, they made it way more interesting and useful than me
L366[18:04:17] <GuestBanana> wait... how can you have not played the game if the official IR thread says "edited May 5, 2016"?
L367[18:05:10] <sirkut> i would update it when needed
L368[18:05:26] <sirkut> just wouldnt play the game, had a daughter so things got hectic
L369[18:05:39] <GuestBanana> oh, well that explains things
L370[18:06:14] <GuestBanana> I've been playing stock-casual the past year, but have lately wanted to move into a mod-light setup
L371[18:07:07] <sirkut> i "play" stock when coding lol
L372[18:07:31] <GuestBanana> Just some useful stuff like whatever that mod is that improves the burn time estimation, Kerbal Alarm Clock, maybe even MechJeb
L373[18:08:12] <ve2dmn> I wanted to make a mod to make asteroid more... interesting?
L374[18:08:17] <ve2dmn> I gave up :(
L375[18:08:24] <GuestBanana> Is MechJeb cheating?
L376[18:08:49] <GuestBanana> (I won't care either way, throw all your emphatic feelings at me)
L377[18:08:51] <ve2dmn> "There is no wrong way to play"
L378[18:09:12] <sirkut> yeah what ve2dmn said
L379[18:09:15] <GuestBanana> ve2dmn: amen brother
L380[18:09:20] <sirkut> i love MechJeb
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L384[18:09:55] <ve2dmn> I think Mechjeb is cheating. But it's only cheating in the context I play the game. I used it sometimes to test things
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L387[18:10:44] <ve2dmn> With a different mod lineup, it would proably be required
L388[18:12:05] <GuestBanana> I hate my imperfect human brain messing up launches. I mean, that's usually because I over-build things massively (oh, right, I want KER in that setup too) but I always overbuild the top of the rocket instead of the bottom
L389[18:12:33] <GuestBanana> I think MechJeb could help that, but I'd have to make sure I can actually build good rockets
L390[18:12:38] <ve2dmn> GuestBanana: that's why I use kOS
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L392[18:16:26] <sirkut> kOS is pure awesome
L393[18:18:15] <GuestBanana> I haven't been in a very code-ey mood lately, if you know what I mean
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L396[18:35:40] <Fluburtur> https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/929298290927182543/4A323FD5538D1891D9BBDDCFEA4A9A21AD495FB7/
L397[18:37:32] <lordcirth> I just saved this mission with kOS. Realized the antennas were going to overheat on re-entry; "wait until alt:radar < 5000. stage." and the chutes pop on time :)
L398[18:38:05] <Guest41964> Do all bodies with "water" have those rare splashed down locations ?!
L399[18:38:26] <lordcirth> Guest41964, rare? Are you running the Field Science contract mod?
L400[18:38:39] <lordcirth> I don't remember stock having that
L401[18:38:41] <UmbralRaptop> I think so. With splashed being a state of the craft.
L402[18:39:02] <UmbralRaptop> unless this is a mod question.
L403[18:39:33] <Guest41964> No. I only run x-science and had a hard time getting them all on kerbin. So I kind of hoped the other bodies were different^^ No mod question just a random question I had.
L404[18:40:01] <lordcirth> Guest41964, well it's not like you *have* to do them all
L405[18:40:16] <Guest41964> Stock has splashed down for all the usual biomes, exept the micro ones and baikerbanur
L406[18:40:26] <lordcirth> Oh ok
L407[18:40:38] <Guest41964> "It's not like you have to do them all" well you don't know me :D
L408[18:41:18] <lordcirth> Ah, a 100%'er? Have fun with KSP lol
L409[18:42:33] <Guest41964> Well I have done all kinds of stuff in the years I played ksp and now I want to try and step by step get all the science. Must be possible I guess. And yeah that 100% stuff is a really bad habbit or I guess you could say mental disease...
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L411[18:43:58] <lordcirth> If you really get all the science, you can max out the tech tree without leaving Kerbin system. I forget if you need the lab or not.
L412[18:44:41] <lordcirth> One of many reasons I run CTT
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L414[18:45:07] <Guest41964> I got all the science on kerbin allready. And its SOI, only the moons are left and I guess minmus alone should be more than I need.
L415[18:46:26] <sirkut> just realized i bought the game in april, the last month the dlc will be free
L416[18:46:28] <sirkut> _whew_
L417[18:48:16] <Mathuin> The strangeness with splash down in non-wet terrain is in stock. Field Service or Science or whatever contracts gives you the pointers on where, and pays you for the research.
L418[18:49:22] <Guest41964> I don't use contract configurator since I always felt it has a rather big performance impact.
L419[18:49:50] <Guest41964> The only hard ones are splashed down in mountains and highlands.
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L443[20:28:27] <Mathuin> You don't need the lab to max out science in the Kerbin SOI. I've still not figured out how or why to use the lab and I've done it.
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L446[20:40:23] <lordcirth> Mathuin, ok good to know. The lab gives you 5x science on everything (terribly OP) or at least it used to.
L447[21:16:19] <Mathuin> lordcirth: And how do you get it? YOu bring the science there instead of home?
L448[21:16:35] <Mathuin> Can't web browse while playing Civ6 or I'd look it up now.
L449[21:16:58] <lordcirth> Mathuin, yes, you staff it with scientists, give it EC, and load data into it. They crank out 5x more science.
L450[21:19:37] <Mathuin> Fascinating. That'd make a great core to a munar station.
L451[21:19:55] <Mathuin> Put one of those around Minmus and you've pretty much got enough science for almost anyone.
L452[21:33:21] <Mathuin> !nextlaunch
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L455[21:42:30] <viper> hey guys. Firespitter 1.3 seems to be crashing my game while loading and i have no idea why. can someone help me out by looking at a log or knowing whats incompatible with it? i can provide a log i just dont know how to over IRC
L456[21:45:43] <TheKosmonaut> viper paste it into hastebin or something
L457[21:45:50] <viper> okay
L458[21:45:56] <TheKosmonaut> Or upload the log file to Google or whatever and then link it here
L459[21:52:08] <viper> here it is in google https://drive.google.com/open?id=15-QvMnLwyzE0JaetIjfqBrztK9cEKhC0
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L461[21:53:27] <lordcirth> Mathuin, yeah, about 3 biome landers on Minmus and you've maxed out the tech tree. It's OP.
L462[21:53:54] <lordcirth> viper, .rar? really?
L463[21:54:31] <viper> ?
L464[21:54:49] <lordcirth> .rar is a decade obsolete and requires patented software to open
L465[21:54:52] <taniwha> .rar is rather annoying, but passable
L466[21:55:04] <taniwha> 7zip is good
L467[21:55:12] <lordcirth> 7zip is excellent.
L468[21:55:41] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hat7u1SPlA
L469[21:55:42] <kmath> YouTube - 10 Ways Space Travel Will Change In The Next 100 Years
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