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L30[04:34:30] <GlassYuri> (I didn't
discover it, there was a screenshot on twitter where it
misinterpreted a japanese name as "1 square yuan")
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L32[04:49:01] <TheKosmonaut> taniwha:
shipping down to Hiroshima
L35[04:49:44] <taniwha> looks heavy
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L37[04:59:26] <TheKosmonaut> taniwha:
painfully heavy
L38[04:59:39] <TheKosmonaut> Need a crane
or the forklift to move it at all.
L39[04:59:47] <taniwha> yeah
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L41[05:00:24] <TheKosmonaut> taniwha: the
yard sold it for 250,000 which seemed kinda low considering how
much time we had to put toward it
L42[05:08:51] <Mat2ch> truck engine?
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L48[05:23:59] <taniwha> yeah, that does
seem cheapish
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L52[06:02:53] <TheKosmonaut> Mat2ch: range
Rover
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L54[06:25:32] <Fluburtur> now that I
ordered my 3d printer I will finalyl be able to make the tf2 mini
sentry for my cousin
L55[06:28:47] <sandbox> :)
L56[06:36:50] <Mat2ch> TheKosmonaut: almost
right :)
L57[06:45:04] <TheKosmonaut> Mat2ch: I
would like to do small cars
L58[06:45:14] <TheKosmonaut> This truck was
a pain
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L60[06:50:40] <Mat2ch> I heard there are a
lot of very small cars in Japan... but you get the big ones
;)
L61[06:52:23] <Arcan> i like small cars,
but i am very tall, so i do not fit properly in them :P
L62[06:55:45] <Mat2ch> I once sat in a
Lotus Elise. It was a convertible, luckily for me.
L63[06:57:19] <sandbox> I was once on a bus
that crashed into a Lotus Elise
L64[06:57:35] <Mat2ch> that doesn't count.
:D
L65[07:07:02] <Arcan> that doesn't sound
survivable for the passengers of the elise
L66[07:08:21] <sandbox> it wasn't that
bad
L67[07:08:43] <sandbox> and I think it was
just the driver
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L70[07:22:53] <Fluburtur> getting
there
L71[07:23:04] <Fluburtur> if im productive
I could be done with that today
L73[07:31:26] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: how well
does the paint stick to the tape?
L74[07:32:05] <Fluburtur> not too bad
L75[07:32:07] <Rokker> Fluburtur: guess
where i might get to go on friday
L76[07:32:09] <Fluburtur> I sanded it
L77[07:32:18] <Fluburtur> your
museum?
L78[07:32:24] <Rokker> Fluburtur: no, a
different museum
L79[07:32:34] <Rokker> Pima
L80[07:32:34] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch I tried to
mix the paint with water but it didn't stick too well
L81[07:32:49] <Rokker> im gonna rescue a
plane from the boneyard
L82[07:32:53] <Fluburtur> but the bottom is
only paint
L83[07:32:54] <Fluburtur> nice
L84[07:33:36] <Rokker> Fluburtur:
apparently they have a 787 on display
L85[07:33:39] <Rokker> which is
surprising
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L87[07:34:08] <Fluburtur> be sure to take
pics
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L91[07:56:45] <Althego> we may already be
the aliens of martian origins
L92[07:56:47] <Althego> -s
L93[07:57:24] <Fluburtur> panspermia is my
fav space theory
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L96[08:01:08] <kmath> <AMAZlNGNATURE>
If you don't think insects can be cute, you haven't seen baby
Orchid Mantises...
https://t.co/oYOW4Vymz5
L97[08:07:39] <Truga> amazlngnature
eh
L98[08:09:10] <Fluburtur> mantises are
scary
L99[08:10:35] <sandbox> not as bad as
cazadors ;p
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L107[08:48:40] <Fluburtur> nice
L108[08:49:25] <Mat2ch> I NEED THIS.
L109[08:49:37] <Fluburtur> well
L110[08:49:51] <Fluburtur> I could wait to
have my 3d printer and use my prop making skills to make one
L111[08:49:53] <Fluburtur> shouldn't be
hard
L112[08:50:00] <Fluburtur> then when I
visit you I give you one
L113[08:51:24] <Mat2ch> A study by the EU
found out that insecticides kill insects. Wow. :D
L114[08:51:36] <Mat2ch> (actually bees,
but they're insects as well ;P )
L115[08:51:40] <Mat2ch> nice
L116[08:51:40] <Fluburtur> who knew
L117[08:51:53] <Mat2ch> how would you make
the base?
L118[08:52:04] <Mat2ch> The glowing thing
there?
L119[08:52:36] <Fluburtur> transparent
plastic
L120[08:52:45] <Fluburtur> and a bunch of
lights
L121[08:52:54] <Fluburtur> wet sanded and
maybe some paint to make it even
L123[08:55:25] <Fluburtur> won't let as
much light through as proper transparent stuff but it's meant to be
an ambiant light anyways
L124[08:57:17] <Mat2ch> Yep, Should be
almost white, when not lit
L125[08:57:35] <Fluburtur> well I will add
that to my list of stuff to make then
L126[08:57:44] <Fluburtur> be sure to
remind me once my printer is there
L127[08:58:59] <Mat2ch> I'm looking
forward to seeing a Falcon Heavy printed :D
L128[08:59:28] <Fluburtur> heh
L129[08:59:42] <Fluburtur> not sure how
detailed I will be able to make it
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L134[09:06:50] <kmath> YouTube - Marble
Machine X #27 - What is Most Important, Talent or Hard Work?
L135[09:07:58] <Mat2ch> \o/
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L137[09:10:25] <halcyon_b> So I was at the
local science museum with my kids, and they had a big exhibit
courtesy of NASA with a six foot model of the SLS block 1, a 1-foot
diameter model of the Orion capsule, and lots of stickers
L138[09:10:37] <halcyon_b> it were a
blast
L139[09:10:51] <ve2dmn> stickers?
L140[09:10:52] <Rokker> halcyon_b:
MUSEUM
L141[09:10:57] <Rokker> M U S E U M
L142[09:11:03] <Rokker>
MUUUUUUSEEEEEUUUM
L143[09:11:05] <ve2dmn> halcyon_b: you
woke up the beast
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L145[09:11:12] <Fluburtur> you triggered
it
L146[09:11:13] <Rokker> halcyon_b: what
museum
L147[09:11:15] <halcyon_b> Anyone know if
they were doing it at a bunch of different places?
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L149[09:11:31] <Rokker> WHAT MUSEUM YOU
MONSTER
L150[09:11:33] <halcyon_b> well, at the
risk of giving away my location, Science Museum Oklahoma in
OKC
L151[09:11:53] <Rokker> well considering
only 5 people live in Oklahoma city, ur screwed
L152[09:12:15] <Rokker> halcyon_b: NASA
sends that kinda crap out a lot, randomly
L153[09:12:26] <Rokker> anyways
L154[09:12:29] <Rokker> I like
museums
L155[09:12:32] <Rokker> museum's are
nice
L156[09:13:28] <halcyon_b> We've got a few
nice museums now, Museum of Modern Art, Sam Noble Natural History
Museum, Science Museum Oklahoma... too bad so many Oklahomans are
allergic to knowledge
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L158[09:13:56] <Rokker> halcyon_b: I
practically spend like 15% of my free time in a museum
L159[09:14:06] <Rokker> the national
museum of the USAF to be specific
L160[09:18:17] <halcyon_b> is it free, or
do you have a membership?
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L162[09:18:36] <Fluburtur> he lives in
there
L163[09:18:44] <Fluburtur> hides in it at
night
L164[09:18:47] <halcyon_b> AZttic or
basement
L165[09:19:07] <Rokker> halcyon_b: free
entrance courtesy of the USAF
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L167[09:19:34] <Rokker> halcyon_b: it's 4
massive hangars full of planes, I don't need an attic, i just hide
in one of them
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L170[09:25:40] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: they
skipped the beard question!
L171[09:25:46] <Fluburtur> heh
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L175[09:33:04] <Rokker> halcyon_b:
honestly I can't think of a federal museum that costs money
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L177[09:33:37] <Rokker> not directly at
least
L178[09:34:28] <Rokker> the air force
missile museum down in cape Canaveral is free but you gotta pay
like 26 dollars at KSC to get onto the base
L179[09:35:21] <halcyon_b> Makes sense. I
don't think I've ever been to a federal museum
L180[09:35:56] <Rokker> halcyon_b: well
federally funded, like military museum's or the smithsonian
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L185[09:59:21] <Gasher> Rokker,
L186[09:59:30] <Gasher> so which of those
museums are the best?
L187[10:09:07] <ve2dmn> That's a loaded
question. The defintion of 'best' depends mostly on what you want
to see.
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L189[10:10:59] <Gasher> ve2dmn, best is up
to Rokker - and i'd say i am relying on his opinion about the best
aviation museums in US
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L191[10:13:50] <UmbralRaptop> I'd go with
"depends on where in the US you are"
L192[10:15:27] <Gasher> ah, right. i also
thought about that
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L198[10:26:59] <kmath> YouTube - Please
Turn Your Phone 90 Degrees For KST
L199[10:32:05] <Rokker> Gasher: NMUSAF is
the best of courae
L200[10:32:07] <Rokker> course
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L202[10:38:48] <Fluburtur> when is the
next launch?
L203[10:39:15] <ve2dmn> .nextlaunch
L205[10:39:19] <ve2dmn> ^
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L207[10:44:41] <Rokker> ve2dmn: probably
not actually
L208[10:45:04] <Rokker> ve2dmn: there have
been some complications with that because you have a falcon and
atlas launch scheduled 21 hours apart
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L210[10:47:50] <Rokker> ve2dmn: and as far
as I know, ULA is definitely launching
L211[10:47:56] <Rokker> spacex might not
be
L213[10:48:32] <Rokker> ve2dmn: if they
launch it will be the first time in 52 years that 2 launches have
happened on the same day
L214[10:48:51] <Rokker> ve2dmn: I'm aware
of where it's from, I was present when the bot was made
L215[10:49:16] <Rokker> ve2dmn: this is
speculation from the spacex channel on esper. we've been talking
about it all week
L217[10:50:36] <kmath> <?SpaceX>
Standing down from this weekend's launch attempt to conduct
additional testing on the fairing’s pressurization syst…
https://t.co/ttzPZIaMZF
L218[10:50:55] <Althego> yes it was
delayed even after that again
L219[10:51:06] <ve2dmn> I'm at work, so
will check later
L220[10:51:19] <Althego> suposedly it will
happen while i am goin to work
L222[10:52:28] <Rokker> ve2dmn: can
confirm now with 100% accuracy, launch is delayed
L223[10:52:42] <Rokker> Fluburtur: next
launch is an atlas in 29 hours
L224[10:52:59] <Fluburtur> ok
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L255[12:18:47] <Althego> the space station
core is status is nominal
L256[12:19:29] <Althego> i especially like
that shock collar in the middle
L257[12:19:35] <Althego> i dont even know
what causes it
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L259[12:19:47] <Mathuin> What's the
offending part?
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L262[12:20:05] <BPlayer> That sonic boom ,
if it is one, looks rather beautiful @Althego
L263[12:20:20] <BPlayer> Or is it a Mach
cone?
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L266[12:20:25] <Mathuin> That's Mach 5.62
according to KER
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L281[12:21:03] <Althego> i think those may
be the hidden parachutes for the returning of the first stage
L282[12:21:09] <Althego> but they never
did that before
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docking ports are contributing their share.
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L316[12:30:05] <Althego> there are 4
struts reinforcing the bond between the tanks and the devoupler,
because there is the probe core and batteries inside, offset into
the tanks
L317[12:30:12] <Althego> maybe those 4
struts are doing that
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L321[12:36:56] <Mathuin> I always have bad
luck with offsetting parts into other parts.
L322[12:37:33] <Mathuin> Especially
rectangular parts like batteries inside curved parts like
tanks.
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L332[13:13:56] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: I'm not saying it was Kerbals, but IT WAS
KERBALS!
L333[13:14:35] <Althego> hehe
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L335[13:14:42] <Althego> each day a new
sentence
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L338[13:16:29] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
And there will be TILL THE END OF TIME.
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L342[13:17:39] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
L344[13:21:11] <Scolar_Visari> From the
Digital Trends article: "The bottom line is, humans shouldn’t
translate any code received from space, nor should we transmit
code."
L345[13:21:17] <Scolar_Visari> From the
actual paper, "Message Decontamination is Impossible":
"Overall, we believe that the risk is very small (but not
zero), and the potential benefit very large, so that we strongly
encourage to read an incoming message."
L346[13:24:45] <Scolar_Visari> Just like
in Independence Day, alien software and hardware would be
COMPLETELY LIKE OUR OWN and thus vulnerable to viruses.
L347[13:29:59] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
yes. Just like computer virus on Windows works on Linux with no
changes whatsoever
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L351[13:31:29] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: I
half wonder if the authors actually know how computers work.
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L353[13:31:47] <Scolar_Visari> Like, did
no one tell them that sentient AIs aren't really a thing and may
never be?
L354[13:31:57] <ve2dmn> They probably
*THINK* they do
L355[13:32:17] <Scolar_Visari> Oh no . . .
I think I know what happened. They got all their knowledge about
the subject by watching Transcendence.
L356[13:32:24] <Althego> yes the id4 virus
thing was totally laughable
L357[13:33:01] <ve2dmn> Also, I don't
understand if, in Independance day, if he could write a virus
capable of turning off the shields, why not write one to overload
the core or something?
L358[13:33:02] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: I
could almost understand a DOS attack, but a virus. Seriously? Also:
Did the aliens not have any patches in the decades since the little
fighter's capture?
L360[13:36:03] *
UmbralRaptop saw the paper on arXiv, but has no
comment.
L361[13:36:40] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: Amusingly, the Digitial Trends article ends with the
exact opposite conclusion as the authors.
L362[13:37:17] <UmbralRaptop>
¯\_(?)_/¯
L363[13:38:28] <Scolar_Visari> It's almost
like reading two and a half pages of work would've caused them
physical pain in writing their 517 word article.
L364[13:39:04] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: it
take less time and most people won't notice the difference
L365[13:39:41] <ve2dmn> We also will not
blame the writter, but probably the publisher. So the author's
reputation is 'mostly' intact
L366[13:40:20] <Scolar_Visari> Dear
Digital Trends: Feed your writer to ravenous alligators. Sincerely
yours, Autarch Scholar Visari of Helghan.
L368[13:43:29] <Scolar_Visari> *Upper
stage
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L370[13:45:33] *
Scolar_Visari snicker at the space plane-esque nature of the
proposed BFR upper stages.
L371[13:49:13] <ve2dmn> What's the
official name of BFR again? Big Falcon Rocket?
L372[13:49:17] <Althego> yes
L373[13:49:44] <Althego> should have named
it bfr 9000 :)
L374[13:49:46] <ve2dmn> We all know it
stand for more... vulgar... things
L375[13:50:08] <ve2dmn> or BFR 9001
L376[13:51:30] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: I
always went for the rail guns myself.
L377[13:51:39] <UmbralRaptop> Discussing
the International Standards Organization is incredibly
vulgar.
L378[13:52:41] <Althego> as9100
L379[13:53:56] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: I
think you have the wrong reference there...
L380[13:54:30] *
Scolar_Visari notes rail guns might have one or two pick up points
as opposed to the difficult to reach one of the BFG
L381[13:54:36] <Scolar_Visari> However,
rocket jumping is always fun.
L382[13:54:39] <Scolar_Visari> Also:
SPLASH DAMAGE!
L383[13:55:06] <ve2dmn> ... Now I feel
like a dinosaur
L384[13:55:08] <Althego> original doom
didnt have railguns
L385[13:55:11] <ve2dmn> ^
L386[13:55:47] <Althego> i liked the
plasma guns
L387[13:55:47] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Doom? Psht, play Quake II, peasant!
L388[13:56:02] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: get
off my lawn!
L389[13:56:06] <Althego> i could never
play quake 2 because even 1 was barely running
L390[13:56:11] <ve2dmn> kids, theses
days...
L391[13:56:36] <Althego> in fact i skipped
all later quakes, and when i got a better computer they were
already old
L392[13:56:52] <Scolar_Visari> Quake III's
still surprisingly popular.
L393[13:56:57] <ve2dmn> ...no appriciation
for the true origins of the classics
L394[13:57:18] <Althego> and i was never
an fps fan
L395[13:57:21] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: The
classics made me physically nauseous.
L396[13:57:30] <Althego> only mirror's
edge :)
L397[13:57:37] *
Scolar_Visari could not play Wolfenstein or Doom 1 -2 for more than
thirty minutes at a time.
L398[13:57:40] <Althego> even 15 minutes
is very bad for me
L399[13:57:46] <Scolar_Visari> Pharaoh and
Caesar III, ont he other hand . . .
L400[13:58:05] <Althego> after 1 hour i
have to stop because of nausea, headache, and eye issues
L401[13:58:10] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: I
usually play Star Control II or similar back in thoses
days...
L402[13:58:26] *
Scolar_Visari also ponders why science-fiction authors think that
point defense cannons are the only anti-missile defense systems on
actual naval craft, ignoring that those dozens of SAMs can still
hit other missiles
L403[13:58:44] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: I
did not start that till Imperium Galactica II, the best
Galactica.
L404[13:59:24] <Althego> hah, hungarian
game
L405[13:59:37] <ve2dmn> A good title that
one
L406[14:00:05] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: An
AWESOME Hungarian game. They made a few other decent titles, too,
and the CGI in IGII was pretty good. Ahem, at the time.
L407[14:00:05] <ve2dmn> I still miss
Master of Orion and M.A.X. sometimes
L408[14:00:25] <Althego> i never got
around to really play max
L409[14:00:32] *
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horribly designed jewel case
L410[14:01:12] <ve2dmn> Althego: the first
game was ok, even if the AI was dumb.
L411[14:01:24] <ve2dmn> but never touch
M.A.X. II.... never, ever.
L412[14:02:08] <ve2dmn> Interplay was
having financial troubles at the time and it showed. It was
released still buggy as $%/??%
L413[14:03:30] <Scolar_Visari> I seem to
recall games always being buggy.
L414[14:03:59] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
that one was unplayable
L415[14:04:33] <ve2dmn> If you can't play
for 10min without game breaking bugs and/or CTD... it's not worth
your time
L416[14:04:53] <Scolar_Visari> So . . .
like Fallout 3?
L417[14:05:14] <ve2dmn> worse
L418[14:06:05] <Althego> btw tomorrow is
march, soon the next ksp
L419[14:06:08] <ve2dmn> Younger, I dreamed
of making a good Turn-based game like M.A.X., Outpost,
Missionforce:Cyberstorm or something like thoses
L420[14:06:24] <ve2dmn> Then I learned to
code and I gave up
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L422[14:07:22] <Scolar_Visari> Outpost had
so much potential.
L423[14:07:52] <Althego> hehe
L424[14:07:53] <ve2dmn> Maybe someday I
will find an engine made for that
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L426[14:08:01] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: yes
:(
L427[14:09:05] <ve2dmn> I could never
figure out what 50% of the game was for, yet I always managed to
'win' (AKA get nanotech and have unlimited ressources)
L428[14:09:05] <Scolar_Visari> Paradox has
a Mars colony game coming out soon, let's see how that works out .
. .
L429[14:10:20] <Althego> scott was playing
a mars colony thing
L430[14:10:23] <Althego> is taht it?
L431[14:10:26] <Althego> looked nice
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L438[14:13:43] <Althego> lol "the
cosmic dperformanceawn"
L439[14:13:48] <Althego> editing
error
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L441[14:14:06] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Editing? Oh no, the journalism robot had a nervous meltdown.
L443[14:14:18] <Althego> firmware
update
L444[14:14:38] <Althego> just wait until
intel releases the second version that doesnt crash it :)
L445[14:14:41] <Scolar_Visari> Paper's
behind a paywall . . .
L446[14:16:08] *
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the general direction of the un-free publication
movement.
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L448[14:22:35] <ve2dmn> I work in the free
publication these days
L449[14:23:21] <ve2dmn> I routinely see
bots trying to download our entire website to repackage freely
available PDFs and sell them
L450[14:24:56] <ve2dmn> Almost as bad as
the predatory papers publications which will publish anything as
long as you pay
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L464[14:58:59] <oren> Deddly: where pre
order
L465[14:59:22] <Deddly> You want to
pre-order the Forum outage? ;)
L466[15:00:10] <Deddly> oren, or do you
maybe mean the Making History expansion?
L467[15:00:48] <Althego> i just hope the
store will sell it too
L468[15:00:58] <Althego> because gog
updates are sllow and i dont want steam
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it
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L473[15:02:10] <FriendlyBanana> I'm really
on edge about that new terms of service and privacy policy
announcement
L474[15:02:30] <Deddly> What,
specifically, don't you like about it?
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L481[15:17:08] <Mathuin> What time zone is
NPT? (from the topic)
L482[15:18:01] <halcyon_b> Nepal
Time
L483[15:18:14] <Mathuin> The website is
run or managed from Nepal?
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L497[15:31:30] <ThirdOfSeven> hi there. Is
there any place where one can ask about new terms/eula/etc and
activities you can now do or not do and consequences?
L498[15:31:40] <Deddly> Hi
ThirdOfSeven
L499[15:31:43] <Deddly> Cool name :)
L500[15:32:10] <Deddly> ThirdOfSeven,
you're welcome to talk about it here, but I don't think any of us
here are lawyers
L501[15:32:37] <Deddly> Otherwise, you
could also bring up your concerns in the announcement thread on the
forum, if you like.
L502[15:33:19] <ThirdOfSeven> there is one
thread and it is pretty quiet for a while with nobody answering and
everybody asking... :)
L503[15:33:23] <kubi> hmm
L504[15:33:30] <Deddly> Mathuin, I put NPT
because it's about as useful to half the world as EST (which is in
the official announcement). I was being a little sarcastic :)
L505[15:33:42] <kubi> anyone expert on
research bodies here?
L506[15:34:10] <kubi> why can't I control
which body to research with my telescope?
L507[15:34:22] <Deddly> Mathuin, I picked
the most obscure time zone I could think of ;)
L508[15:34:40] <ThirdOfSeven> I hope we
get some contacts to ask concrete questions one day, about what we
can do, like "for content creators" or so.
L509[15:34:49] <Deddly> kubi, are you
talking about KSP or something else?
L510[15:34:59] <kubi> KSP yes
L511[15:35:04] <kubi> Research Bosies
mod
L512[15:35:08] <kubi> bodies
L513[15:35:08] <ThirdOfSeven> I think he
is talking about "Research Bodies" mod.
L514[15:35:20] <Deddly> Ah, I don't know
that mod, sorry
L515[15:35:35] <Deddly> ThirdOfSeven, what
questions do you have about the terms?
L516[15:35:43] <kubi> what thoughts you
had in your head? :)
L517[15:36:48] <ThirdOfSeven> new terms
specificly forbid any derivative works based on forums or any other
online services. For example, can one make and post screenshots,
have them appearing in a video and so on?
L518[15:36:50] <Mathuin> Deddly: ah, I
thought it was some part of Mexico from when Squad was still there.
:-)
L519[15:38:10] <RandomJeb> "is KSP
now a nintendo game?"
L520[15:38:11] <RandomJeb> <_<
L521[15:38:14] <Deddly> ThirdOfSeven, I
think that was standard T&C talk for "Don't steal our
stuff"
L522[15:38:49] <Mathuin> Is it standard? I
haven't read terms and conditions for many games, TakeTwo or
otherwise, but if it isn't in the old ones and is added to the new
ones, that's slightly troubling.
L523[15:39:00] <ThirdOfSeven> but now you
never know what they call "steal"
L524[15:39:30] <Deddly> There was even a
company that literally said they own your soul if you agree to the
terms, to make fun of the people to never read them
L525[15:39:35] <ThirdOfSeven> i'm trying
to find any old terms, but not very lucky atm
L526[15:39:48] <Deddly> the people WHO*
never read them
L527[15:40:04] <Mathuin> I'd wonder about
its impact on "Open Space Program" if it appeared to have
a chance on being anything other than vaporware.
L528[15:40:07] <ThirdOfSeven> only EULA.
For example, there forum guidelines, but I can't find terms of
online servies.
L529[15:40:26] <kubi> can't I have my
terms and conditions published somewhere saying that if you sell me
anything your life is mine?
L530[15:41:00] <Deddly> ThirdOfSeven,
there's the LegalNotice.txt in the KSP folder
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L532[15:41:26] <RandomJeb> kubi: you can
but if you tried to enforce it you would most likely get struck
down in almost any court
L534[15:41:35] <kubi> in english, I
suppose
L535[15:41:52] <kubi> so then I do not
need to understand that
L537[15:42:21] <Deddly> Oh, you linked it
already
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L539[15:43:17] <Deddly> RandomJeb makes a
good point. No matter what the EULA says, it is still subject to
local laws, and there are things like "fair use" that say
you can post a screenshot etc.
L540[15:44:00] <ThirdOfSeven> but, for
example, if it appears on Youtube, cant take two claim and strike
such channel?
L541[15:44:34] <Deddly> ThirdOfSeven, you
mean because you show footage of the game?
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L543[15:44:46] <Deddly> What wording in
the new terms says you can't do that?
L544[15:45:03] <ThirdOfSeven> footage of a
game, screenshot from devs, or just open browser with forum on
stream, for example.
L545[15:45:31] <ThirdOfSeven> (i) you may
only view, copy and print portions of the Online Services for your
own informational, personal and non-commercial use; (ii) you may
not modify or otherwise make derivative uses of the Online
Services, or any portion thereof;
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L548[15:46:54] <RandomJeb> ThirdOfSeven:
what do they define Online Services as?
L549[15:47:26] <Deddly> ThirdOfSeven,
again, my personal take on that is just legalese for "if you
do something bad or try to steal our stuff, we will sue
you"
L550[15:47:29] <ThirdOfSeven> RandomJeb:
as far as I understand it includes forums, irc chat...
L551[15:48:14] <ThirdOfSeven> maybe
curseforge pages.
L552[15:49:53] <Deddly> ThirdOfSeven, It's
pretty safe to say that it's unlikely TakeTwo or Squad will sue
users for making a video on YouTube with KSP in it - that would be
commercial suicide and they would be attacking free
publicity.
L553[15:51:48] <ThirdOfSeven> I wanna
agree, but on other hand they have such power sunce 6 Mar. I hope
we will have some guidelines on what we can do and which way to not
take any risks.
L554[15:51:49] <Deddly> But it's also
likely that someone will reply in that thread eventually - but my
guess is it will take time because it will have to be worded very
carefully
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L558[15:56:23] <Mathuin> Probably the most
expensive thread in the forums.
L559[15:56:30] <Mathuin> Dollars per post,
based on lawyer billing time to craft responses.
L560[15:57:06] <Judge_Dedd> It's also
worth noting that Rockstar Games have exactly the same
wording
L561[15:57:22] <ThirdOfSeven> I think
something like this must be prepared before posting about changing
the terms, not after.
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L565[16:05:00] <Judge_Dedd> ThirdOfSeven,
genius! but that would require forethought ;)
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L569[16:16:09] <Mathuin> My most
significant concern is that they will consider using free mods a
violation of the TOS, especially if they add microtransactions into
the mix. If I can't play with open-source kOS because they're
selling kRAPOS for $5.99, that's a problem.
L570[16:16:56] <ThirdOfSeven> also it is
interesting if open-source mods with GPL license still can be
posted since you can't give them any exclusive rights with it
:)
L571[16:16:57] <Mathuin> "any
derivative works based on forums or any other online services"
might mean "don't nobody make a free version of
S00perSpecialPartz mod which we sell", or it might mean more,
I don't know.
L572[16:19:01] <ThirdOfSeven> actually why
I'm asking this just because I found my viewers like to watch
translated news from developers in Russian. Of course I had to put
some images posted by dev (of course noting I'm not one making
them) and sometimes show forums (to advertise some challenges), now
it seems I may have issues...
L573[16:19:55] <SnoopJeDi> A good rule of
thumb when it comes to copyright law is "is money changing
hands or could it be? is it enough for someone to care?"
L574[16:20:37] <Mathuin> SnoopJeDi: that's
why I'm concerned about blocking free mods, to avoid free
lookalikes from draining the income TakeTwo may expect.
L575[16:21:06] <SnoopJeDi> Mathuin, I
doubt it'd drain enough to warrant a preventative approach
L576[16:21:15] <SnoopJeDi> certainly
possible they could later yank something
L577[16:21:21] <Mathuin> Not my place to
draw that line, though, so I don't know how reasonable they plan on
being.
L578[16:21:33] <SnoopJeDi> To the GPL
point though...GPL is just...problematic.
L579[16:21:38] <ThirdOfSeven> I don't
know. I have no monetization, for example. Maybe Youtube makes some
money, but in general I'm just making information more accessible
with such video.
L580[16:21:42] <SnoopJeDi> For games
specifically
L581[16:22:06] <Mathuin> [GPL] Sure. If
someone could make a "is-this-GPL?" test, then vendors
would simply block them at the door -- and they'd be within their
rights.
L582[16:22:40] <SnoopJeDi> yea there's
definitely a deliberately engineered vagueness
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L584[16:33:07] <Fluburtur> my friend was
like "buy stellaris"
L585[16:33:14] <Fluburtur> then he gave me
the game
L586[16:33:20] <Fluburtur> now I annoy him
every day to play
L587[16:36:56] <Deddly> Mathuin, in
copyright terminology, a "derivative work" is using code
or material from the original.
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L589[16:38:41] <Fluburtur> I should be
done painting the canadair soon
L590[16:38:42] <Deddly> You could start
from scratch and make an clone of KSP and as long as you don't call
it KSP or sell it for money, and as long as you haven't taken the
code, sounds, textures or other assets of the game, it would not be
breaking any laws.
L592[16:39:40] <Deddly> Fluburtur, neat
:)
L593[16:39:46] <Deddly> I have to go now.
Seeyas
L594[16:40:12] <Mathuin> Deddly: and now
that Oracle v Google was resolved, you can even make your version
API-compatible.
L595[16:40:24] <Mathuin> However, being
right in the end doesn't mean you can't be sued until you have no
money.
L596[16:40:32] <Mathuin> Fingers crossed
that people are not horrible.
L597[16:41:22] <SnoopJeDi> Deddly, It's
Complicated though. If you make a GPL Python library and I import
it, is that derivative? If it's not but then I subclass one of
yours, is *that* derivative?
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L600[16:42:11] <Deddly> SnoopJeDi, that's
complicated, but ThirdOfSeven putting a screenshot of the forum or
KSP online somewhere isn't a derivative work
L601[16:42:12] <SnoopJeDi> The unfortunate
side effect of such vagueness is that the end-user is left with
this really strange legal hostage situation if they intend to do
anything but license under GPL too.
L602[16:42:32] <SnoopJeDi> That said, the
resources to wield the legal system like a kudgel aren't generally
present, nor is the motive.
L603[16:43:04] <SnoopJeDi> and as far as
something like TOS is concerned, it's a set of guidelines to try
and put edges on a box more formally defined as "we do what we
want pretty much"
L604[16:43:33] <SnoopJeDi> at least as I
see it
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L606[16:46:15] <Deddly> Again, pretty
standard as far as ToS / EULA go in general
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L608[16:46:44] <SnoopJeDi> oh yes
absolutely
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L611[16:49:19] <Deddly> ThirdOfSeven, in
my (non-lawyer) opinion, you have nothing to worry about. This is
the same as most other companies, and I don't see TakeTwo going
after people who post videos about GTA V
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L613[16:49:41] <Deddly> Now I go, seeyas
:)
L614[16:49:45] <SnoopJeDi> (see previous
rule of thumb: would it make them enough money to matter?)
L615[16:50:15] <Mathuin> You know, if you
could program a Tesla autopilot in GTAV, that would be fun.
L616[16:50:16] <Deddly> Would it make them
ANY money?
L617[16:50:17] <SnoopJeDi> although that's
kinda hard to quantify when it comes to brand protection, heh. See:
Nintendo's primal aggression to fan projects
L618[16:50:27] <SnoopJeDi> avoiding loss
is profit blah blah
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L620[16:51:13] <ThirdOfSeven> oh, he
quite
L621[16:52:48] <ThirdOfSeven> anyway,
thanks for you your opinions. :)
L622[16:53:05] <ThirdOfSeven> it is much
more calm inside my mind now
L623[16:56:28] <SnoopJeDi> Mathuin, have
you seen Sentdex's youtube videos training a GAN to play it?
L624[16:56:55] <SnoopJeDi> His neural net
does some remarkable things!
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L627[17:16:17] <Mathuin> I have not! That
sounds fun. The closest I've come to that was watching someone play
GTA on DDR pads.
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L634[17:35:41] <kuzetsa> mmm nintendo is
why the atari (fanmade) version was called princess rescue
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L637[17:36:49] <kmath> YouTube - Princess
Rescue - Atari 2600 Homebrew
L638[17:39:53] <kuzetsa> oh god youtube is
too smart - I had never heard of Zippy the Porcupine (it suggested
I look at that particular atari homebrew next)
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L640[17:55:07] <ve2dmn> kuzetsa: or the
C64 Gianna Sisters
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L654[18:35:36] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: The science must flow! The science has given
us accelerated evolution for two centuries. It has enabled you to
live one hundred years. The science makes the microchip, which
gives the computers the ability to play cat videos.
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L657[18:37:17] <UmbralRaptop> The science
has created peppers with heat in excess of one million
scovilles!
L658[18:38:04] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptop: If that doesn't allow GPS Navigators to fold
space-time, than nothing will!
L659[18:38:53] <UmbralRaptop> :D
L660[18:40:01] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: Okay, so I'm going through the citations
"Message Decontamination is Impossible", and it seems one
of the central arguments has only to cites to its credit.
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L663[18:41:24] <UmbralRaptop> hrm
L664[18:42:07] <Scolar_Visari> One is a
book without any page references, and the other is a document that
has only been cited twice in other literature.
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L666[18:42:43] *
Scolar_Visari is increasingly suspicious that the people who argue
that AI are Skynets waiting to happen or approaching singularities
in boxes probably know nothing about AI.
L667[18:45:56] <Scolar_Visari> I'm not
entirely sure if the paper has actually been peer reviewed. Two
cites for a statement that AI cannot be, "imprisoned" is
pretty low.
L668[18:47:29] <Scolar_Visari> Though,
since the paper directly states that an AI might, "blueprints
for nanobots" to cure cancer as a trojan horse for its more
malevolent intentions, I suppose that alone is enough to send it
back for a rewrite.
L669[18:47:57] *
Scolar_Visari seriously wonders if the authors were thinking of
tiny robots.
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L672[18:49:44] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy:
You missed it. Aliens are going to send us computer viruses.
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L675[18:54:07] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
with the cure for cancer, no less
L676[18:56:43] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
It'll be just like those, "free to play" online games.
"Only one cancer treatment per month for non-subscribers.
Subscribe today for $20,000 and get a treatment every 24
hours!"
L677[19:01:03] *
Scolar_Visari goes to verify and contextualize quote made by Hannes
Alfvén, but instead gets a source which previously states that,
"General Relativity itself violates the usual conservation of
energy and momentum and is therefore in conflic with experiment on
a deep level, rendering Einstein's conception of the physical
Universe and the gravitational field invalid".
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L679[19:01:47] <ve2dmn> I... hum... no
comments
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L681[19:02:35] <Scolar_Visari> The author,
Stephen Crothers, describing themself: "I'm neither a
mathematician nor a physicist. More accurately, I'm a gardener and
home handyman who does science in his spare time."
L682[19:02:59] <ve2dmn> I mean, Einstein
was wrong plenty of times, but I would not bet against
Einstein
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L685[19:04:13] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Well, it's not like general relativity has been supported by any
observations over the years. Certainly not recently! /s
L686[19:04:39] <ve2dmn> it's not like GPS
accuracy depends on it...
L687[19:06:02] <ve2dmn> When was Gravity
probe A launched again?
L688[19:06:12] <Scolar_Visari> What's
terrible is the reference I quoted earlier comes from a paper
released during a symposium hosted by an actual academic
publisher.
L689[19:06:29] <Scolar_Visari> For
Heaven's sake, the Gmail address alone should've set off
alarms!
L690[19:07:14] <ve2dmn> didnt you hear
about the time they accepted a randomely generated paper?
L691[19:08:35] <ve2dmn> It was quite some
time ago, back when getting 'slashdotted' was still a
thing...
L692[19:09:24] <ve2dmn> Someone wrote a
random paper generator, and after a few submissions, one of thoses
paper got accepted...
L693[19:09:50] <Scolar_Visari> By the
Nine! That's not the only bad paper! "Implementing Maxwell's
Aether Illuminates the Physics of Gravitation" and
"Thoughts Occasioned by the 'Big Bang' Model of the
Universe" (with a section on Halton FREAKING Arp).
L694[19:10:45] <Scolar_Visari> What kind
of rodeo clownshow conference were these bozos running!?
L695[19:11:07] <ve2dmn> one where they
take $ in exchange for publication
L696[19:12:26] <ve2dmn> I work in open
access these days... and I've quite a few weird things in this
industry
L697[19:12:58] <Scolar_Visari> I've seen
some bad nonsense get into peer review from time to time, but this
stuff is Time Cube level bad.
L698[19:13:23] <ve2dmn> wow... that's a
blast from the past.
L699[19:13:54] *
Scolar_Visari quietly ponders if anyone who contributed to the
"8th Symposium Honoring Mathematical Physicist Jean-Pierre
Vigier" were actually scientists.
L700[19:14:11] <Scolar_Visari> I mean, one
of them already admitted to being a gardener.
L701[19:16:47] <Mathuin> Markov chains for
that paper, wasn't it?
L702[19:17:05] <Scolar_Visari> Though I
suppose it serves me right for trying to investigate, once again,
if one of Alfven's alleged followers misquoted him before ending up
in a rabbit hole of further nonsense.
L703[19:17:13] <ve2dmn> in my case, what I
hate the most is people downloading PDF from our website and then
charging $ for it...
L704[19:17:55] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
That's like selling bootleg copies of public domain films
L705[19:18:03] <ve2dmn> yup
L706[19:18:21] <ve2dmn> But they sell a
*giant* database of *research*
L707[19:18:40] <Mathuin> Sci-Hub is
pleasing.
L708[19:19:13] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
There was a great blog post about people who 'sell' firefox
L709[19:19:55] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Well, we do live in a world where people sell water that's been
imbued with positive thoughts.
L710[19:20:29] <ve2dmn> don't remind me.
it's depressing
L711[19:21:20] <Scolar_Visari> Ooooh!
Crothers et al.s, "Criticisms of the Einstein Field Equation:
The End of the 20th Century Physics" sells online starting at
$133.61 That's $133.61 more than I'm willing to pay, of
course.
L712[19:21:29] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Clearly you need more positive water.
L713[19:21:54] *
Scolar_Visari wriggles their grasping appendages in the
intrepretive dance of their people and projects positive thoughts
into ve2dmn's refreshments.
L714[19:21:56] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
clearly since I have all the symptoms of depresion
L715[19:22:43] <ve2dmn> I'm probably in
need of something else I with magically positive magnetic energy
that cost 400000$/ml
L716[19:23:03] <Scolar_Visari> I also sell
quantum healing strips.
L717[19:23:44] <ve2dmn> too small
L718[19:24:15] <Scolar_Visari> These
strips actually absorb toxins and negative energies. I think.
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L720[19:24:31] <ve2dmn> then they collapse
into nothingness?
L721[19:24:50] <Scolar_Visari> I can also
summon my cabal of psykers in a couple of moments to commune with
The Shroud.
L722[19:25:06] <ve2dmn> my sugestion:
DONT
L723[19:25:26] <Scolar_Visari> Would you
like to receive a boon? I'm also on good turns with the
Totally-Not-Chaos-Gods
L724[19:27:04] *
Scolar_Visari has their soldiers herd the coven of psychics into
the Communion Chamber. With the raising of talons, a hush falls
across the sterile stone chamber as the dozens of Gifted focus
their minds.
L726[19:28:50] *
Scolar_Visari closes their nictating membranes, anticipating the
gust of wind and crackling of energies as the gossimer thin barrier
between the Materium and Immaterium is pierced and widened as a
child might dig a hole into the ground.
L727[19:30:28] *
Scolar_Visari becomes decreasingly aware of there being any others
in the room, save for the countless eyes watching from Beyond.
Thirsting eyes, jealous eyes, murderous, baleful and psychotic eyes
glancing out from the realm that no sentient being was meant to
contact.
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L729[19:32:10] <ve2dmn> isn't that what
the 'space elves' did and got wiped out for?
L730[19:32:10] *
Scolar_Visari projects their own thoughts into a might voice of
ages, calling, no, demanding the presence of the most powerful so
that the mortals may bargain with them. "We request your
positive thoughts" told the request. "We know what you
seek" came the rumbling response of beings too alien to
perceive with eyes. But then again, one does not need eyes to see
where they're going in the Shroud.
L731[19:32:46] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: Oh
no, the Eldar simply became so corrupt and twisted that their
thousands of years of increasingly depraved sport and celebration
*CREATED* a Chaos god.
L732[19:33:58] <Scolar_Visari> The Birth
of Slaanesh was so terrible that it created a hole in the very
fabric of the universe: The Ocularis Terribus. The Eye of Terror.
The psychic scream and physical tear in space slew the vast
majority of the Eldar where they stood.
L733[19:34:47] <Scolar_Visari> Even most
of those who had warned of the Eldar's Doom and had sought to
escape it in their primeval Craftworlds were lost to the opening of
the Eye of Terror, with others still left precariously close to its
reach.
L734[19:36:03] <Scolar_Visari> Slaanesh
thirst for Eldar souls, however, was not sated. Indeed, those Eldar
who die must have their souls trapped within the twilight unlife of
the precious soulstones or risk being consumed by Slaanesh.
L735[19:36:59] <ve2dmn> hum... I had the
impression that the Space Elves had too much Space pleasures
without space protection
L736[19:37:01] <Draconiator> uhhh what are
you going on about?
L737[19:37:24] <ve2dmn> Draconiator:
Warhammer
L738[19:37:34] <Draconiator> Ah
L739[19:38:46] <Scolar_Visari>
Draconiator: I was TRYING to summon something from The
Shroud.
L740[19:39:23] <Scolar_Visari> Then the
question regarding space elves through me off. Now I'm afraid
consulting with The Shroud will simply get me an audience with The
End of Cycle.
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L742[19:40:51] <Scolar_Visari> Yes, ve2dmn
will get their x100% bonuses to happiness, but it won't end well in
50 years.
L743[19:41:32] <ve2dmn> I heard tales of
the End of the Cycle, but I have never seen it
L744[19:41:54] *
UmbralRaptor guesses that Scolar_Visari was summoning something
affiliated with Tzeentch?
L745[19:42:19] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: The
tool tip for the selection even says, "Do not do
this."
L746[19:42:26] <ve2dmn> I know
L747[19:42:41] <Scolar_Visari> "Meh,
what's the worst that could happen?"
L748[19:42:58] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: Tzeentch is in the game. Sort of. Though not nearly
as fun as Psychic Avatar spaceships.
L749[19:43:23] <ve2dmn> It's even a
'possible' strategy: because since it kills you last, if you wait
long enough, you win
L750[19:43:38] <UmbralRaptor> Hah
L751[19:44:31] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: Or
you can get lucky and have it fight off another end game
enemy.
L752[19:44:49] <Scolar_Visari> Sort of
like stopping a fire by detonating a nuclear bomb in its
path.
L753[19:47:38] <UmbralRaptor> Didn't the
Soviet Union do that for some oil well fire?
L754[19:49:31] <Scolar_Visari> They did
that for whole wars
L755[19:50:01] *
Scolar_Visari can only imagine the number of oil wells that
would've been set on fire following a successful conquest of
Stalingrad by the Heer.
L756[19:50:40] <UmbralRaptor> Wikipedia
says that they did so for 5 natural gas fountains. Hrm…
L757[19:52:24] <Scolar_Visari> That sounds
right.
L758[19:52:51] <Scolar_Visari> There are
few problems in life that cannot be solved by the careful
application of nuclear explosives.
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L760[19:54:55] <Scolar_Visari> IE:
Neighbor building fencing on your property? A tactical yield
nuclear blast will take care of such a transgression with
permanence. Food poisoning from the local Golden Corral? Cleanse it
with atomic fire, of course! Need to get fish for your family
reunion fish fry? One thermonuclear blast will net you an entire
shoal!
L761[19:57:34] <UmbralRaptor> Tastes like
Iodine-131?
L762[19:58:25] <Scolar_Visari>
Mmmmm.
L763[19:58:55] <Scolar_Visari> Needless to
say, I'm not invited to security council meetings anymore.
L764[19:59:06] <Scolar_Visari> Because MY
ideas are simply TOO effective.
L765[19:59:10] <ve2dmn> "Bah! I eat
Radiation for breakfast!"... "You might want to skip a
few meals"
L766[19:59:52] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: We
won't need any meals once we learn to convert the radiation from
thermonuclear blasts into mammal energy.
L767[19:59:53] <ve2dmn> bonus points if
you know where that quote is from
L768[20:01:06] <Scolar_Visari> Can I use a
hotline?
L769[20:01:21] <Scolar_Visari> I'd like to
call a friend. G. Oogle.
L770[20:01:49] <ve2dmn>
1-800-crappy-cartoons-from-the-90s
L771[20:02:40] <Scolar_Visari> Oh oh oh I
know this one . . . Is it . . . The second season of the New
Adventures of Johnny Quest?
L772[20:02:58] <Scolar_Visari> Or, no,
wait, I take that back . . .
L773[20:04:13] <Scolar_Visari> Wait . . .
Robert Patrick, AKA the T-1000, was RACE in the first season? I
know Q was Dr. Quest in the 2nd, but Johnny Quest had a Terminator
for a bodyguard!
L774[20:04:18] <ve2dmn> I'll give you 1
hint: Tim Curry
L775[20:05:42] <Scolar_Visari> That would
be EVERY OTHER TELEVISION SHOW FROM THE 90's!
L776[20:06:47] <Scolar_Visari> Superhuman
Samurai Syber-Squad, for instance. Who was the villain? Why Tim
Curry, of course.
L777[20:07:01] *
Scolar_Visari is displeased they remembered that it was spelled,
"Syber".
L778[20:08:48] <ve2dmn> want the
answer?
L779[20:09:12] <Scolar_Visari> Yes. I need
it so I can rethink what I'm doing.
L780[20:09:26] <Scolar_Visari> My. God. I
actually remembered SSSS.
L781[20:09:30] <ve2dmn> That first line
comment was from Norman, and the reply is from Max
L782[20:09:52] <ve2dmn> Tim was the
vilain: Skullmaster
L783[20:10:43] <ve2dmn> Norman's common
catchphrase is, "I eat [X] for breakfast"
L784[20:10:54] *
Scolar_Visari pauses opening scene to The Real Adventures of Jonny
Quest. Is . . . Is that an A-10 firing at Jonny and his
dog?
L786[20:11:15] <Scolar_Visari> Can I use
G. Oogle now? We're really good friends. I think it may have the
answer.
L787[20:11:29] <Scolar_Visari> That's
ancient. Why would you remember that?
L788[20:11:48] <ve2dmn> because I am
beyond old
L790[20:12:53] <ve2dmn> Jonny Quest.
L791[20:13:01] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: I'm
old. I think. I seem to have trouble remembering things after that
whole eruption of Mt. Etna. Or was it Krakatoa?
L792[20:13:42] *
Scolar_Visari notes outrunning an A-10 in anything other than
another aircraft is unlikely to succeed.
L794[20:14:31] <Scolar_Visari> Is the
pilot aware he's shooting at a teenager and his tiny dog?
L796[20:17:00] <Scolar_Visari>
#KSPOfficial is serious business.
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L805[21:16:26] <Draconiator> And it took a
full Olympic dive off of a crater rim for something to break on it.
but it's STILL going
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L812[21:54:03] <Rokker> Draconiator: its a
bit homely tho, aint it
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