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L1[00:00:15] <TheKosmonaut> That looks pretty soft... though the camera shake is weird

L2[00:01:52] <Dabeer> I was expecting, at 0%, them to barely move

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L4[00:05:14] <Dabeer> ok here's with the different forces... and it's barely different from the previous clip

L5[00:05:15] <Dabeer> https://nofile.io/f/OMG4EQqty4c/Dabeer-DecouplerForceBroken-0-10-100.mp4

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L10[00:08:27] <Dabeer> am I wrong to expect a 0% ejection force to basically just stop being attached, and let the payload begin to drift?

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L12[00:13:54] <Althego> np

L13[00:13:56] <Althego> no

L14[00:14:00] <Althego> if there is no clipping

L15[00:14:31] <Althego> if the payload clips into the craft physycs will create a force on it to remove one object from inside an other

L16[00:15:22] <Dabeer> that, I get... but as far as I know, I didn't clip my payloads into each other or into the mothership

L17[00:15:24] <Althego> while there are no such forces before the decoupling, because a single craft can pass through itself

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L19[00:15:43] <Althego> i can see the camera shaking characteristic for a situation like that

L20[00:16:05] <Althego> there may be things that are slightly bigger than they seem

L21[00:16:49] <Dabeer> ok I'll try a test tomorrow - a single payload, with a 0% force decoupler, and absolutely no clipping (although I'm 99.999% sure there's no clipping here already)

L22[00:17:10] <Althego> if you absolutely want no force

L23[00:17:13] <Althego> use a docking port

L24[00:17:26] <Althego> you can even stage them in current version of the game

L25[00:17:31] <Althego> and probably is lighter

L26[00:17:36] <Dabeer> doesn't a docking port require a port on both sides?

L27[00:17:40] <Althego> no

L28[00:17:46] <Althego> you need 2 ports for reconnecting

L29[00:17:49] <Dabeer> ok

L30[00:17:54] <Althego> but you can connect anything to a port in the vab

L31[00:17:55] <Dabeer> I'll give it a try

L32[00:18:38] <Althego> haha according to florida politicians, porn is a health risk and guns are not

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L34[00:18:53] <Dabeer> I'll try it both wayss, and if I still get too much force with the 0% decoupler, I'll be back with a new video :)

L35[00:18:59] <Dabeer> thanks, all, and good night

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L38[00:28:08] <taniwha> Althego: that's bible thumpers for you

L39[00:30:25] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: Why

L40[00:30:28] <TheKosmonaut> are you bringing that up here

L41[00:30:34] <TheKosmonaut> and taniwha I expect better

L42[00:31:03] <taniwha> yeah, sorry

L43[00:31:40] <Althego> because it is insane

L44[00:32:58] <TheKosmonaut> So are the Insane Clown Posse, but I see no reason why they or this should be in this channel

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L55[01:53:55] <Glass|phone> https://twitter.com/380kmh/status/966490618032738304

L56[01:53:55] <kmath> <380kmh> https://t.co/LIzjS48VPe

L57[01:58:21] <Gasher> Glass|phone, lol

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L77[04:34:53] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/71efc894f920d9732ffe2edecf8667dc/tumblr_p43zz9aZUg1rvmaqmo1_540.jpg

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L79[04:41:47] <Rolf> lol Fluburtur you linked that literally as I was clicking youtube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5_ZSnFDPRg

L80[04:41:47] <kmath> YouTube - How do birds learn to sing? - Partha P. Mitra

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L85[05:01:51] <Fluburtur> uh still no shipping info on my 3d printer

L86[05:02:04] <Fluburtur> guess it's sitting somewhere waiting to get on a plane

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L91[05:18:57] <Pakaran> Has anyone noticed an issue with FMRS? Specifically, I dropped a stage while simultaneously firing the upper one.

L92[05:19:45] <Pakaran> This blew up the decoupler on the lower stage, and while flying said stage, FMRS claimed the craft was destroyed (rather than re-root it, and allow the remaining parts to fly until burnup or impact).

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L98[06:11:18] <Fluburtur> wooo my uncle got my an airbrush!

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L105[06:43:57] <taniwha> Fluburtur: for painting your planes?

L106[06:44:05] <Fluburtur> yeah

L107[06:44:12] <taniwha> nice

L108[06:44:38] <Fluburtur> will be very handy

L109[06:45:30] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/51a18f8e38b016ad57feddd6c49ab462/tumblr_mu6ezburzq1sjuprvo1_540.png

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L114[06:55:17] <Althego> aeiou?

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L116[07:00:20] <Fluburtur> will have to learn to use the airbrush a bit but shouldn't be too hard

L117[07:01:50] <Althego> https://kep.cdn.indexvas.hu/1/0/1948/19488/194883/19488325_70756d44406eb8f9389e9b7658c6fd45_wm.jpg

L118[07:03:26] <Fluburtur> birb

L119[07:04:23] <Althego> two face https://www.instagram.com/p/BdvAosKnDqG

L120[07:04:51] <Fluburtur> printer was low on ikn

L121[07:13:22] <sandbox> aren't they always

L122[07:22:03] <Fluburtur> I should probably make a 3d model of my heli if I want to 3d print a scale fuselage

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L125[07:51:22] <Althego> https://twitter.com/41Strange/status/966750484273836033

L126[07:51:23] <kmath> <41Strange> Japanese Artist Y. Nakajima Turns Childhood Toys Into Post-Apocalyptic Survivors https://t.co/LAdVjKw5U1

L127[07:52:55] <TonyC> hello

L128[07:52:55] <Mod9000> Hello, TonyC

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L130[08:08:54] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/66660b8160dba302b29ffac5895aea0f/tumblr_ocsl90AaaM1v73tlxo1_540.jpg

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L132[08:16:20] <Althego> nah that was fake

L133[08:16:47] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QwRW148Jys

L134[08:16:47] <kmath> YouTube - Hawk throws snake at family eating lunch in Melbourne

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L139[09:11:38] <ve2dmn> Hello

L140[09:11:39] <Mod9000> Hello, ve2dmn

L141[09:12:20] <Althego> hehe

L142[09:12:26] <Althego> most annoying bot feature ever

L143[09:12:35] <Althego> lot more annoying than mission was

L144[09:12:58] <ve2dmn> Yesterday CKAN broke as I was trying to explain something to an unexperience user...

L145[09:13:12] <ve2dmn> ...this morning our website broke during a training sessions.

L146[09:13:15] <Althego> ckan broke... the sound barrier

L147[09:13:25] <ve2dmn> What have I done to deserve this

L148[09:13:39] <Althego> you live in quebec

L149[09:13:44] <Althego> isnt that enough

L150[09:14:25] <ve2dmn> No comments because politics

L151[09:14:54] <Althego> i wouldnt say that is politics. it is just somewhat strange place

L152[09:15:45] <ve2dmn> It turns to politics quickly because of historical reasons

L153[09:18:32] <ve2dmn> Althego: if you want a history lesson, I can give you one. Nothing happens in a vaccum

L154[09:19:07] <ve2dmn> Well... except maybe dust. Dust accumulates in vaccums

L155[09:23:09] <ve2dmn> I mean... 'History lesson' is relative. It's only 400years worth of history.

L156[09:23:10] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: Yes.. Because a bot saying Hello is so much worse than someone triggering ;mission every 30s

L157[09:23:34] <Althego> it is almost never triggered when it is needed, but when it is not needed

L158[09:27:50] <TheKosmonaut> The idea was to try and stop Guest1234 users from just popping in

L159[09:27:55] <TheKosmonaut> Didnt seem to help though.

L160[09:27:58] <TheKosmonaut> Guests are the worst

L161[09:28:06] <Althego> yes, it doesnt say hello to the geust

L162[09:28:11] <Althego> but to me when i say hi to the guest

L163[09:28:13] <TheKosmonaut> Huh

L164[09:28:21] * TheKosmonaut throws knives at deddly

L165[09:28:31] <Althego> that is why i find it r eally annoying

L166[09:29:37] <Althego> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/966706193560305664

L167[09:29:37] <kmath> <elonmusk> Tintin A & B will attempt to beam “hello world” in about 22 hours when they pass near LA

L168[09:33:21] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: Did you ever ping Deddly about it?

L169[09:34:08] <Althego> why? it is obviously reaction to some key words. if the new guy doesnt say that it wont react

L170[09:34:18] <Althego> it is obviously working as iuntended

L171[09:35:28] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: Wel he's the one that controls it, he meant for it to greet guests that just say hi

L172[09:35:39] <ve2dmn> hi

L173[09:35:39] <Mod9000> Hello, ve2dmn

L174[09:35:40] <Althego> reacts to hi or hello

L175[09:35:43] <Althego> somebody comes in

L176[09:35:46] <Althego> i say hi

L177[09:35:50] <Althego> reacts to me

L178[09:36:04] <TheKosmonaut> You could suggest to him to have it specifically say hi to guests

L179[09:36:17] <TheKosmonaut> As I *thought* that was his initial intention w/ it

L180[09:36:20] <Althego> or to people who recently joined

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L184[09:59:15] <bees> Althego: You build a micro surfboard so you can surf the microwaves. The nuclear bonds break apart.

L185[09:59:23] <Althego> hehe

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L188[10:16:15] <Althego> https://i.redd.it/ti2d72heneh01.jpg

L189[10:17:02] <Althego> https://i.imgur.com/QWgACN9.png

L190[10:17:36] <Althego> https://i.imgur.com/yiEpRWR.png

L191[10:18:14] <Althego> nice description http://kerbaldevteam.tumblr.com/post/171138611984/kerbal-space-program-making-history-expansion

L192[10:18:22] <Althego> basic tutorial even

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L194[10:23:18] <Draconiator> Using an old 1GB flash drive for Readyboost, and it helps KSP load a LOT faster

L195[10:31:00] <ve2dmn> Althego: isn't https://i.imgur.com/yiEpRWR.png one of the Steam profile background?

L196[10:31:20] <ve2dmn> or am I mistaking it for one of the Civ5 backgrounds?

L197[10:32:34] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/6ec5347c92d92aacabd0a4429410cdea.jpg - Kerbal time capsule, hehe

L198[10:35:11] <Althego> i just took the links from tje lsp twitter

L199[10:35:11] <ve2dmn> yeah, it reminded me of http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steamcommunity/public/images/items/8930/7edb27dbfffc7a8c646f1b46bfe2464f86b49931.jpg

L200[10:35:17] <Althego> *the ksp

L201[10:35:21] <ve2dmn> (which is a Cvi5 background)

L202[10:35:50] <ve2dmn> (my mistake)

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L211[10:55:48] <Guest86996> can anyone help me see why my contract isn't completing?

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L213[10:58:27] <taniwha> Guest86996: did you look in the contracts app?

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L217[11:09:33] <Guest86996> figured it out, didn't realize you could observer ground speed in addition to orbital speed, thx :)

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L219[11:11:06] <Guest86996> but what's the contracts app?

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L222[11:14:52] <Althego> there is this icon with a sheet of paper, some lines on it

L223[11:14:55] <Althego> that is the contracts

L224[11:15:02] <Althego> and if you look for the specific contracts

L225[11:15:04] <Althego> -s

L226[11:15:12] <Althego> then there are criteria there to be fulfilled

L227[11:15:21] <Althego> all must have a green check

L228[11:15:48] <Guest86996> yeah for sure I was eyeing that, I just couldn't figure why my speed looked right but it wasn't checking the box

L229[11:16:12] <Althego> yes it is confusing

L230[11:16:13] <Guest86996> then I realized you could click to alternate between orbital and ground speed

L231[11:16:22] <Althego> if you go high enough the speed indication switches to orbital

L232[11:16:31] <Guest86996> thanks for your help

L233[11:16:33] <Althego> but the contract is specified in surface mode speed

L234[11:16:57] <Althego> why is there no biome for the building roof of soe buildings?

L235[11:17:16] <Althego> administration sph and mission control doesnt seem to have one

L236[11:18:41] <Fluburtur> I flew my canadair a bit today

L237[11:18:46] <Fluburtur> managed to land it on water

L238[11:19:07] <Fluburtur> and by land I mean fly so slow it's almost hovering then do a gentle stall into the water

L239[11:21:43] <Fluburtur> also I flew the wing I broke yeserday but it flew kinda weird

L240[11:24:18] <Althego> also the ocean floor should have its own biome

L241[11:24:26] <Althego> or maybe even several based on depth

L242[11:24:36] <Fluburtur> yes

L243[11:24:42] <Fluburtur> my submarines need a purpose

L244[11:24:54] <Althego> i have like 3 weeks to finish this career game

L245[11:27:23] <Draconiator> Flub, did you get the plane I sent working?

L246[11:28:06] <Fluburtur> didn't try it yet

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L248[11:33:59] <Althego> i guess i cant really do anything now, have to wait until the next node

L249[11:34:19] <Althego> i wanted to collect the science for the ion and launch the moho probe

L250[11:34:24] <Althego> but i cant do that

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L254[11:57:20] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/yazrNKise8g

L255[11:57:20] <kmath> YouTube - 2014 0122 044536 081

L256[12:03:01] <Mat2ch> As usual a great landing. :D

L257[12:03:28] <Fluburtur> I basically just stalled it on the water

L258[12:03:39] <Fluburtur> it doesn't like to fly at medium speed

L259[12:03:42] <Fluburtur> either low or fast

L260[12:03:45] <Fluburtur> slow*

L261[12:03:56] <Mat2ch> you should add some flaps

L262[12:03:56] <Fluburtur> so landing on the river will be interesting

L263[12:04:46] <Fluburtur> I can't really add flaps

L264[12:04:54] <Fluburtur> I already used all the channels in my radio

L265[12:05:04] <Fluburtur> and they would be too far behind the CG and that is bad

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L267[12:07:53] <Althego> https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/H_5oBX_w4Uj6y09Z6uFO24QotyaAGInTcHYX1qM1STo/http/78.media.tumblr.com/c63606036c36c1c63cc966e65ae175c2/tumblr_p3fecq7Vm31qbi0ero2_1280.jpg?width=400&height=246

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L269[12:15:51] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/416659414968434689/DSC_8453.MOV.Image_fixe001.png

L270[12:21:39] <JCB> hmm..

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L273[12:22:02] <JCB> someone somewhat local out to me had plans for RC planes.. he had neat little one for a Shorts flying boat

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L278[12:40:17] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/bhKinf8yNRU

L279[12:40:17] <kmath> YouTube - canadair "landing" on water

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L289[13:27:09] <ve2dmn> note, CKAN broke yesterday because of TLS-SSL issue. You'll need to download a new version

L290[13:28:34] <ve2dmn> (Github disabled TLSv1.1 yesterday)

L291[13:28:52] <Althego> good

L292[13:42:32] <Draconiator> http://www.businessinsider.com/north-koreas-olympics-cheer-squad-allegedly-forced-into-sex-slavery-2018-2 - Yeeeeeeeep that's North Korea for you.

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L298[14:00:46] <Mat2ch> Draconiator: too much politics (and too sad :(

L299[14:03:58] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch I got an airbrush

L300[14:04:40] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: yeah, nice!

L301[14:04:59] <Fluburtur> so the canadair will finally get a paintjob

L302[14:05:34] <Mat2ch> In yellow?

L303[14:05:45] <Fluburtur> yellow and red yeah

L304[14:05:46] <ve2dmn> with a touch of red?

L305[14:06:12] <Fluburtur> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/FR_canadair.jpg/1200px-FR_canadair.jpg

L306[14:06:25] <Fluburtur> probably less detailed but eh

L307[14:06:28] <ve2dmn> you'll need an ID for the tail...

L308[14:06:36] <ve2dmn> how about F-KSP1 ?

L309[14:06:42] <Fluburtur> yeah

L310[14:06:56] <Fluburtur> I planned on calling it the "super penguin" and drawing one on the tail

L311[14:07:03] <Fluburtur> but I have like no airbrush skills yet

L312[14:07:19] <ve2dmn> get a tux sticker for now?

L313[14:08:22] <Fluburtur> eh

L314[14:08:28] <Fluburtur> will wait to get good

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L317[14:15:10] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: the nickname is the 'SuperScooper'...

L318[14:15:19] <Fluburtur> I know

L319[14:15:28] <Fluburtur> but mine doesn't look the least like a real canadair

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L321[14:17:25] <ve2dmn> You could name it 'Super-Soaker'

L322[14:17:53] <ve2dmn> Or 'Super Canard'

L323[14:18:49] <Fluburtur> eh

L324[14:18:53] <Fluburtur> I could

L325[14:18:58] <Fluburtur> bunch of ducks here

L326[14:19:18] <ve2dmn> 'Cartoon Canard'

L327[14:19:27] <ve2dmn> :P

L328[14:21:52] <Fluburtur> eh super canard is more like it

L329[14:22:02] <Fluburtur> but im very bad at drawing crap

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L332[14:34:37] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: btw, if you want nightmares, look up how ducks have sex.

L333[14:34:52] <Fluburtur> I already know about that

L334[14:34:57] <Fluburtur> my plane won't have that feature

L335[14:38:09] <ve2dmn> that would be even MORE scary

L336[14:38:24] <Fluburtur> well I do plan on having a water drop

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L360[16:03:53] <Althego> finally the moho probe is away

L361[16:05:09] <Althego> it was a complicated maneuver node to set up, because bob was also coming back from minmus (and from the sun soi) exactly the same time. and some few other operations in progress, and being a node that used all directions

L362[16:07:32] <ryan2390> And here I am struggling with an SLS replica...

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L364[16:08:03] <Althego> the question it, will it exist in reality at all

L365[16:08:16] <ryan2390> The SLS? Doubt it

L366[16:08:45] <Althego> spacex is going to make it obsolete

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L368[16:09:39] <ryan2390> Yup. But I find the design appealing. Don't get me wrong the Falcon is way cooler in what it does but there's something about the SLS.

L369[16:10:24] <Althego> i always disliked the sls

L370[16:10:30] <ryan2390> Why?

L371[16:10:43] <Althego> because it uses space shuttle parts

L372[16:10:52] <ryan2390> Fair point

L373[16:10:55] <Althego> and it is also disposable

L374[16:11:08] <Althego> ok, the rs-25 is a really efficient engine

L375[16:11:21] <ryan2390> I'm not quite ready to try recoverable stages in KSP

L376[16:11:22] <Althego> they it will just discard them

L377[16:11:50] <Althego> also it is an old design, maybe they could have come up with something better

L378[16:12:12] <Althego> the booster is also from the shuttle

L379[16:12:14] <Althego> the tank too

L380[16:12:28] <Althego> and thecapsule is going to have apollo era materials for heatshields

L381[16:12:36] <Althego> there was some progress since ten

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L383[16:13:23] <Althego> the whole thing looks like a manageent decision, let's try to run the old shuttle factories running as long as possible

L384[16:14:18] <ryan2390> Mhmm

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L386[16:15:04] <tawny> the rs-25 is fuel efficient but it's pretty intensive materials wise which'll be a problem if they ever try to get more than four SLS launches

L387[16:15:09] <tawny> I don't mind, though

L388[16:15:20] <tawny> because I find the odds of them getting to launch #5 to be very unlikely

L389[16:15:23] <ryan2390> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yuw941fszvl0sue/screenshot305.png?dl=0

L390[16:15:35] <ryan2390> That's my 3.75m capsule SLS

L391[16:16:26] <ryan2390> 2.5m capule flavour https://www.dropbox.com/s/itxqrzpfvj7ix8t/screenshot306.png?dl=0

L392[16:18:27] <ryan2390> Does seem 'odd' if you will that SpaceX is beating NASA/ULA at their own game.

L393[16:18:29] <Althego> strange thing is, in reality the 2 boosters have a huge thrust compared to the main engines

L394[16:19:14] <tawny> I don't rly like the aesthetics of the SLS, the narrowing width feels kinda off to me and the side boosters look so small

L395[16:19:22] <tawny> you did a nice job recreating it tho

L396[16:19:40] <Althego> or rather creating it, since it doesnt exist yet :)

L397[16:19:51] <Althego> but tyes, itt looks more or less lke the real thing

L398[16:20:00] <tawny> haha fair

L399[16:20:08] <Althego> maybe the boosters should bea bit longer since they are the increased length version

L400[16:20:41] <tawny> that said the later versions that don't narrow out like that do look nice

L401[16:21:15] <ryan2390> My original attempt I wasn't keen on...boosters were too big and the tank too long. The 3.75m one looks too dumpy in my opinion. Was going for an Orion-esque vehicle on top too

L402[16:21:45] <ryan2390> But it's been a right PITA so far

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L404[16:26:09] <ryan2390> I built this for a trip to Duna. Based it off the Ares IV seen in a ST Voyager episode https://www.dropbox.com/s/7otk759gvj7xdz8/screenshot298.png?dl=0

L405[16:26:45] <ryan2390> tawny: This is why I went to build an SLS. Thought it would be kinda cool IMO. My first SLS build can lift 110t to LKO.

L406[16:26:58] <tawny> nice

L407[16:32:37] <Fluburtur> https://yourcountdown.to/the-expanse

L408[16:33:27] <ryan2390> Fluburtur: Can't come soon enough IMHO

L409[16:33:36] <Fluburtur> yeah

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L411[16:39:00] <tawny> are there any mods that do, like, procedural SRBs where you can change their height and thrust profile

L412[16:40:14] <KrazyKrl> yes.

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L414[16:43:07] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.

L415[16:45:06] <ryan2390> That might come in handy for this damn SLS. Ha. Getting quite frustrated with myself for not being able to reproduce it in KSP well.

L416[16:45:10] <ryan2390> Evening Supernovy

L417[16:45:12] <ryan2390> brb

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L430[17:35:47] <ve2dmn> ryan2390: hello

L431[17:36:06] <ryan2390> Hello ve2dmn

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L433[17:44:05] <ve2dmn> It's been a fun few days... First NPM broke. Then CKAN. Then my own servers at work...

L434[17:44:22] <ve2dmn> And in all 3 cases just when I needed it

L435[17:44:58] <UmbralRaptop> Relatedly, OSX 10.13 breaks Astroikage

L436[17:45:00] <UmbralRaptop> Er

L437[17:45:08] <UmbralRaptop> AstroimageJ

L438[17:45:34] <ve2dmn> bah. that's normal. OSX break stuff all the time

L439[17:46:48] <ve2dmn> A few of the real good aps on OSX uses undocumented API, which break during an OS update

L440[17:47:24] <ve2dmn> There was a real good article about this a few years ago...

L441[17:49:16] <ve2dmn> but yeah. CKAN is broken. You'll have to redownload the new one is your does not update

L442[17:49:46] <UmbralRaptop> Incidentally, the latest update means you'll no longer get app crashes when trying to render some Bengali and Telegu strings.

L443[17:50:00] <ve2dmn> imagine that

L444[17:52:51] <ve2dmn> if I remember correctly, it's not the first time that Apple stuff crashed because of Unicode

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L446[17:58:07] <UmbralRaptop> Hah

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L465[20:15:20] <Draconiator> I uCOMPLETELY revamped the folder structure of my personal directory earlier...will KSP scream at me for being in a different folder?

L466[20:16:00] <TheKosmonaut> Maybe.

L467[20:16:02] <TheKosmonaut> Maybe not.

L468[20:17:42] <Supernovy> uncompletely revamped?

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L471[20:22:13] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: To prevent causality violations, all attempts at FTL communication will result angry swarms of scarab beetles.

L472[20:23:06] <Scolar_Visari> I also can't believe I didn't mention this the other day: The Culture is being made into television! https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/consider-phlebas-tv-series-works-at-amazon-1086840

L473[20:25:39] <UmbralRaptor> Angry scarabs… FTL… Necrons?

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L475[20:27:23] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptor: Unfortunately, I am legally barred from making overt homages to Necrons with my causality violation enforcement. The reason scarab beetles were chosen was because Nicolas Cage already used up all the angry bees.

L476[20:28:01] <UmbralRaptor> hah

L477[20:30:18] <TheKosmonaut> "Not the bees. No. Not the bees. The bees, no!" - St. Cage ca. 2000-2005

L478[20:30:43] <Scolar_Visari> There were a lot of scarab beetles unemployed after the first two Fraser Mummy films.

L479[20:31:20] <Scolar_Visari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVCrmXW6-Pk

L480[20:31:21] <kmath> YouTube - Not the Bees - Nic Cage in The Wicker Man

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L482[20:32:29] * Scolar_Visari ponders life's ultimate question. More Stellaris, or What We Do in the Shadows?

L483[20:33:58] <TheKosmonaut> Scolar_Visari: EU4 instead

L484[20:34:22] <Scolar_Visari> Psht, it does not have planet killing weapons!

L485[20:36:16] * Scolar_Visari ponders making 18th Century Europe into a Stellaris mod complete with the British Stellar Commonwealth, the Holy Romulan Empire and the Galactic Duchy of Poland-Lithuania

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L488[20:38:35] <Scolar_Visari> The War of Stellar Succession would result in Gibraltar being annihilated and the installation of the Bollide dynasty on the throne.

L489[20:39:25] <UmbralRaptor> Bolide dynasty… Rockefellers!

L490[20:40:05] <TheKosmonaut> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QpqcDTh2/image.png

L491[20:40:12] <TheKosmonaut> Scolar_Visari: but you can do this

L492[20:40:31] <Scolar_Visari> Kosmonaut: Psht, I do that in Empire Total War all the time! Take THAT Russia!

L493[20:40:48] <Scolar_Visari> I got your Teutonic Crusades right here, Prussia!

L494[20:41:16] <TheKosmonaut> Russia doesn't exist just yet. Though the Muscovites are well on their way

L495[20:41:21] * Scolar_Visari glares at Northumberland.

L496[20:42:10] <TheKosmonaut> Hehe

L497[20:42:18] <TheKosmonaut> I may have forced England to do that

L498[20:42:57] <Scolar_Visari> In that universe, they have Britainization instead of Balkanization.

L499[20:43:54] <TheKosmonaut> Unfortunately, my campaign against Aragon didn't go well. I was going to take some land from them, then pretty much half the HRE declared war on me, on account of King Charles being excommunicated

L500[20:44:48] <Scolar_Visari> Meanwhile, the Ottoman Turks bring coffee to Europe.

L501[20:45:29] <TheKosmonaut> Scolar_Visari: the Ottomans are my friend, after that war with Austria, I decided I needed some friends

L502[20:46:22] <Scolar_Visari> The Turkish Delights MUST flow.

L503[20:46:58] <Scolar_Visari> Also: https://snag.gy/83hva6.jpg

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L505[20:47:48] <Scolar_Visari> I've . . . Never had a pre-sapient species on the same planet as an existing primitive civilization, let alone EARTH. Which begs the question: Are bears the next step in mammalian evolution?

L506[20:48:59] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: you started with that?

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L509[20:51:06] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: Yes. I actually made a mod that allows me to optionally spawn with Earth as a neighboring system (much as Earth spawns next to Alpha Centauri, Barnard's Star and Sirius in vanilla), but I've never seen *this*.

L510[20:51:17] <taniwha> Scolar_Visari: that's not begging the question :P

L511[20:51:47] <Scolar_Visari> taniwha: I, for one, welcome our ursine partners in sentience.

L512[20:51:53] <taniwha> (note, while I've read it several times, I've never quite understood just what "begging the question" is, but I know what it's not)

L513[20:52:32] <Scolar_Visari> Just imagine a person in rags BEGGING for an answer.

L514[20:52:40] <Scolar_Visari> Oh wait, that's still not right.

L515[20:53:41] <ve2dmn> it's a mistranslation of a logical fallacy

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L517[20:53:56] <ve2dmn> A better translation would have been "assume the conclusion"

L518[20:54:00] <taniwha> Scolar_Visari: what you did was raise the question :)

L519[20:54:23] <Epi> Scolar_Visari ^ The new version is soooo slooow now, granted i've not moved on from hyperlane

L520[20:54:30] <Scolar_Visari> Oh no, I didn't raise it. I was literally begging.

L521[20:54:42] <ve2dmn> https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/beg-the-question

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L523[20:55:08] <ve2dmn> Epi: it's always been slow :P

L524[20:55:15] <Scolar_Visari> Epi: I didn't think I would like the change, but it's grown on me enormously. I hated the rapid expansion issues of previous versions, though you still have to identify potential bottlenecks for AI.

L525[20:55:50] <Scolar_Visari> Though building too many outposts still drains influence and heavily impairs unity and research point gains.

L526[20:56:46] <Scolar_Visari> On the other hand, colonization ship prices have been reduced back to 300.

L527[20:57:24] <Epi> the gaia world start is interesting

L528[20:58:31] <Scolar_Visari> Epi: Indeed, especially since I lucked out on mineral tiles with my own!

L529[20:59:07] * Scolar_Visari considers doing a fanatic xenophile Gaia world start with the intent of attracting alien immigrants/refugees and using them to colonize other worlds.

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L531[20:59:35] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: or droids like I'm trying to do

L532[21:00:03] <Scolar_Visari> Teehee https://i.redd.it/lhn0l0f5zqh01.png

L533[21:00:15] <Epi> I like to think charismatic is a good pick now, I can cut off the AI, and still be their besti

L534[21:00:38] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: 'I am your god meow'

L535[21:00:40] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: Fanatic Servitors are good fun! Especially when you're herding sentients into habitats and ringworlds for thier own protection.

L536[21:01:43] <ve2dmn> Humans require Ice Cream

L537[21:02:55] <Scolar_Visari> We'll digistruct ice cream for their enjoyment in any flavor their squishy processors can conceive.

L538[21:04:07] <Scolar_Visari> I seem to think 2.0 has also given me a significant performance boost.

L539[21:05:05] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4IFNKYmLa8

L540[21:05:05] <kmath> YouTube - Halo Top - Eat the Ice Cream

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L542[21:07:30] * Scolar_Visari steps back and blinks in horror.

L543[21:07:34] <ve2dmn> ^ that is a real TV ad

L544[21:08:55] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: And I thought the Canadian PSA on workplace safety was terrifying.

L545[21:09:56] <Scolar_Visari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noFCekWiUGE

L546[21:09:56] <kmath> YouTube - prevent-it.ca

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L548[21:10:47] <ve2dmn> never look up the Quebec accident ads...

L549[21:12:20] <Scolar_Visari> Honestly, however, the Germans are about the most amusing when it comes to workplace safety https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oB6DN5dYWo

L550[21:12:20] <kmath> YouTube - Forklift Driver Klaus English Subtitles

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L552[21:21:04] <Scolar_Visari> They need a Kerbalized version of this.

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L555[21:35:24] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm . . . Vampire flatmates it is.

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L558[21:38:49] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6BtxmVUwT8

L559[21:38:49] <kmath> YouTube - Amazon's Alexa has a glitch

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