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L15[01:59:26] <cringe> ISS Urine Tank
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L18[02:31:55] <KrazyKrl> No no... it's
ISRU... not ISSU.
L19[02:33:13] <Althego> hehe
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L54[05:57:16] <kmath> YouTube - Moog System
55 Modular Synth At Dublin Science Gallery
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L58[06:48:15] <APlayer> I may have just
done the most Kerbal thing for me in a while
L59[06:49:16] <APlayer> Run this kOS
script, it fires up the engines, releases clamps and then crashes.
I end up with an uncontrollable rocket (definitely not possible to
achieve mission by hand) about 10 meters above the pad.
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L61[06:51:27] <APlayer> First I cut the
engines because I did not see that the clams were already released.
Fortunately I notice it in time, start the engines again and kill
my downward velocity perhaps 1 m above the pad. So I pitch sideways
and try to land the whole fuelled rocket (Only an empty first stage
was intended to land). I actually touched down, but had about 5 m/s
of lateral velocity so I started falling
L62[06:52:07] <APlayer> Even an empty first
stage explodes when it tips, so I start the engines in the hope of
taking off in time and trying again
L63[06:52:33] <APlayer> Guess what? I hit
the VAB with 600 tons of rocket at 50 or so m/s
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L65[07:13:52] <BadRocketsCo> Hello!
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L67[07:15:17] <Fluburtur> yp
L68[07:15:18] <Fluburtur> yo*
L70[07:16:22] <BadRocketsCo> Nice!
L71[07:17:49] <Draconiator> What the heck
is that orange thing?
L72[07:17:58] <Fluburtur> camera
L73[07:18:24] <Draconiator> Ah
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L77[07:54:17] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: I finally
found someone with a cnc mill \o/
L78[07:55:08] <Mat2ch> But it's rather
expensive 50 EUR for setup and 2.50 per minute. But I hope that it
will not take more than 10-20 minutes
L79[07:56:52] <APlayer> o.o
L80[07:57:01] <APlayer> Considered 3D
printing? It is cheaper
L81[07:59:00] <Mat2ch> well, it has to be
massive, so it has to be out of wood
L82[08:02:27] <APlayer> There are 3D print
services for metal, all sorts of plastics (of which one surely
would be good enough for you), and then there are more exotic
materials like sandstone or carbon fiber or so
L83[08:03:05] <APlayer> Some of those might
get costly, but I'm sure whatever you're doing won't cost 75 or 100
€ to print
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L86[08:11:17] <Mat2ch> Oh, I bet it will
cost almost the same ;)
L87[08:15:23] <APlayer> Alright
L88[08:15:40] <APlayer> Also, I will be
back soon. See you!
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L96[08:28:47] <Fluburtur> my heli
flew!!!!
L97[08:28:48] <Fluburtur> wooooo
L98[08:28:56] <RandomJeb> \o/
L99[08:29:17] <Fluburtur> that was ultra
scary and I was also ultra exited
L100[08:29:57] <RandomJeb> did it also
land?
L101[08:30:03] <Fluburtur> yes
L102[08:30:09] <Fluburtur> it is in one
piece and me too
L103[08:30:25] <RandomJeb> total
victory
L104[08:30:28] <Fluburtur> yeah
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L106[08:30:48] <Fluburtur> I just kept it
hovering
L107[08:30:57] <Fluburtur> was a bit hard
but that's expected with helis
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L113[08:37:47] <Deddly> Looks great,
taniwha. I've never used the mod, but that looks nice :)
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L115[08:38:11] <taniwha> it's a tiny pad
that self destructs when you build a vessel
L116[08:38:26] <taniwha> and the new
vessel is a "permanent" part of the parent vessel
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L118[08:38:45] <Deddly> Cool :)
L119[08:38:50] <taniwha> (if the root node
is a separator of some sort, not so permanent)
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L121[08:40:23] <Fluburtur> man the mic of
my camera makes a light breeze sound like a storm
L122[08:40:35] <Fluburtur> should use my
proper mic more often
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L125[08:42:35] <transitbiker> you could
get one of those fluffy mic covers
L126[08:42:43] <transitbiker> also
bwoop
L127[08:42:56] <Fluburtur> I already have
a rode shotgun mic with the foam but no fluff on it
L128[08:43:01] <Fluburtur> already works
quite well
L129[08:43:13] <Fluburtur> but im not sure
my friend likes filming with that
L130[08:43:28] <Fluburtur> makes the whole
camera+handle+mic a bit heavy
L131[08:43:44] <Fluburtur> also I
deactivated the wind reduction in my camera
L132[08:43:59] <transitbiker> the fluffy
covers really work, because the wind noise dissipates in the fluff
instead of into the stiffer foam, which can conduct it to wherever
it's sitting against
L133[08:44:14] <Fluburtur> I deactivated a
lot of audio noies cancelling and stuff, makes it have a very good
sound with no white noise when using the rode mic
L134[08:44:54] <transitbiker> yeah, there
are kinda like slim fitting fluffy covers for smaller mics and for
lower profile that i have seen
L136[08:45:27] <Fluburtur> super good
crap
L137[08:45:36] <Fluburtur> one battery
last about a year using it often
L138[08:46:03] <transitbiker> that's the
one big downside of recording stuff at speed, you get not just the
noises you want to hear, but the wind noise too, which can drown
everything else out
L139[08:46:25] <Fluburtur> well at least
this one is directionnal
L140[08:46:28] <Fluburtur> and just
enough
L141[08:46:50] <Fluburtur> the camera
hears just what is sees and what is outside the frame is dampened
enough to not be an issue
L142[08:47:01] <Fluburtur> exept in rooms
where there is a lot of reverberation
L143[08:47:15] <transitbiker> oh
nice
L145[08:47:56] <Fluburtur> eh
L146[08:48:01] <Fluburtur> I don't really
have a use for that
L147[08:48:15] <Fluburtur> stock foam
works well enough and I won't be filming outside in a storm
anyways
L148[08:48:43] <transitbiker> the one you
linked looks like it has good sound supression from shocks and
footsteps
L149[08:48:51] <Fluburtur> yeah
L150[08:49:11] <Fluburtur> I mean you will
hear if you shake it a lot but for normal use it does the job very
well
L151[08:50:24] <transitbiker> the local
news reporter crews, like the ones that do live and on-site
reporting use something kinda like that but a bit bigger to get
that much more supression of ambient sounds not in the forward
direction
L152[08:50:43] <transitbiker> maybe 2
times thicker of foam
L153[08:51:34] <transitbiker> my plane is
rilling down the runway whoops
L155[08:51:52] <kmath> YouTube - Puggy
solo Montereau confluence 2015
L156[08:51:55] <Fluburtur> no
external
L157[08:52:18] <Fluburtur> too bad yt
compressed it to 30fps because at 60 it looks much better
L158[08:52:49] <Fluburtur> im very happy
with my camera
L159[08:53:31] <transitbiker> try
something like photobucket? only downside is bandwidth
limitations
L161[08:53:37] <kmath> YouTube - More
testing of the homemade Flying V guitar
L162[08:54:05] <transitbiker> nice quality
there, but the person mixing the PA had the thing too bass heavy
-.-
L164[08:54:14] <kmath> YouTube - test
bonus 1
L165[08:54:22] <Fluburtur> yeah my friend
likes to have a lot of low frequencies
L166[08:54:36] <Fluburtur> and that cab
has the best response between 0 and 1khz
L167[08:54:39] <Fluburtur> over that it
drops
L168[08:54:50] <Fluburtur> btw in the last
video I sent, we were using two cameras
L169[08:54:57] <transitbiker> i went to a
free show few weeks back, and they clearly didn ot have the right
speaker setup for the board they were using
L170[08:55:05] <Fluburtur> my cousin has
the exact same camera and mic as me but not set up the same
L171[08:55:11] <Fluburtur> so you can hear
his camera has some white noise
L172[08:55:44] <transitbiker> the mid and
high drivers were being overloaded, but the bass drivers were too
muffled
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L174[08:56:32] <transitbiker> we saw AJR,
and the strokes
L175[08:56:41] <transitbiker> and like 2
other lesser known bands
L176[08:56:54] <Fluburtur> I reduced the
gain and turned off all noise cancelation of my camera and put the
gain of my external mic as high as I can
L177[08:58:32] <transitbiker> the clip
with the fake blood, was that your mic on the input?
L178[08:58:38] <Fluburtur> yeah
L179[08:59:06] <Fluburtur> the thing with
good audio is that you don't notice it
L180[08:59:10] <Fluburtur> you notice bad
audio
L181[08:59:27] <ve2dmn> And you notice bad
audio before bad video
L182[08:59:40] <transitbiker> when the guy
puts the lid back on the jar of fake blood it moves from in range
to out of range of the main puckup area, so you can tell it moved
off to one side
L183[09:00:06] <Fluburtur> I did a lot of
microphone handling on this movie
L184[09:00:11] <transitbiker> nice
L185[09:00:34] <Fluburtur> but well like
nay movie I do with my cousin we all do everything
L186[09:00:46] <Fluburtur> so I also did
cameraman and actor and light and other stuff
L187[09:00:56] <Fluburtur> there is
actually a scene where I play a barman
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L190[09:01:17] <kmath> YouTube - barman
thomas
L191[09:01:55] <Fluburtur> well I will
have to go for now
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L193[09:02:07] <Fluburtur> I have
something planned with a friend
L194[09:02:11] <ve2dmn> "My planet
needs me"
L195[09:02:13] <Fluburtur> I'll send the
video of the heli when i get back
L196[09:02:35] <ve2dmn> (sorry... was too
tempting)
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L200[09:05:05] <transitbiker> ooo
L201[09:06:12] <transitbiker> nice
L202[09:07:30] <transitbiker> my
girlfriend's half brother is into film making, especially wordless
story telling
L203[09:07:43] <transitbiker> we always
talk movies when we visit them
L204[09:08:53] <transitbiker> is black
panther playing in france yet?
L205[09:09:28] <transitbiker> that's the
next one i want to see, and darkest hour
L206[09:12:07] <transitbiker> i wonder if
i forgot to take roll authority off the canards
L207[09:12:23] <transitbiker> yep
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L210[09:19:06] <transitbiker> now to kit
it out with lights and airbrakes and upload to kerbalx
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L214[09:20:14] <sirkut> hello, been a
_long_ time for me
L215[09:20:37] <transitbiker> hi :D
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L217[09:22:01] <sirkut> trying to get back
into my robotic arms mod
L218[09:22:40] <transitbiker> sounds
fun
L220[09:23:43] <sirkut> it's an old thread
i started, life happened (daughter was born, then TWINS.. so yeah
busy)
L221[09:25:42] <transitbiker> woah
twins
L222[09:25:56] <transitbiker> cant even
imagine, haha
L223[09:26:34] <transitbiker> my
girlfriend's kids are doing the whole flu thing, and now she is
too, fun times
L224[09:26:48] <sirkut> having twins
suck
L225[09:27:15] <sirkut> it was then i
decided i'm getting fixed, no more damn kids.
L226[09:28:15] <transitbiker> hahaha
L227[09:28:34] <transitbiker> im happy to
raise her kids with her
L228[09:28:40] <transitbiker> tdont need
any of my own
L229[09:29:14] <transitbiker> this thing
needs an rtg, batteries, and maybe one pv panel
L230[09:29:44] <ve2dmn> sirkut: One of my
coworkers had twins that are around 11 now...
L231[09:30:05] <transitbiker> 11, a
perfect age for twins hehe
L232[09:30:13] <transitbiker> 11, 22,
33.... etc
L233[09:30:30] <ve2dmn> She joke that
she's selling them all the time
L234[09:30:41] <sirkut> i dont think she's
joking
L235[09:30:49] <ve2dmn> I have my doubts
too
L236[09:30:56] <transitbiker>
hahahaha
L237[09:31:10] <sirkut> mine are fraternal
twins and they are completely different personalities
L238[09:31:27] <transitbiker> must make
birthdays interesting
L239[09:31:28] <ve2dmn> She has identitcal
twins
L240[09:31:29] <sirkut> one is ultra
happy, the other is a fucking curmudgeon (they are only 6 months
old)
L241[09:32:29] <transitbiker> well, i've
read that personalities can change quite a lot between 1 and 5/6
years
L242[09:32:33] <ve2dmn> Anyway, I can't
contribute to that topic much... my love life is a mess so no kids
for me :/
L243[09:33:03] *
transitbiker gets a participation trophy for ve2dmn
L244[09:33:09] <sirkut> lol
L245[09:33:41] <Deddly> sirkut, please
don't use bad language in this channel
L246[09:33:49] <ve2dmn> tl;dr:
Rejection
L247[09:33:53] <transitbiker> oh i missed
that
L248[09:34:12] <BadRocketsCo> o/
L249[09:34:19] <transitbiker> ello
BadRocketsCo
L250[09:34:24] <Deddly> sirkut, we follow
the same rules in here as the KSP Forum
L251[09:34:33] <sirkut> Deddly: thanks for
the reminder, like i said, it's been a _WHILE_
L252[09:34:40] <Deddly> sirkut, welcome
back :)
L253[09:34:42] <sirkut> my
apologies.
L254[09:34:53] <BadRocketsCo> What's up in
the neighbourhood these days?
L255[09:35:08] <BadRocketsCo> I am mostly
chilling with the RO folk these days
L256[09:35:22] <ve2dmn> Same old space
kraken
L257[09:35:25] <Deddly> sirkut, those
robotic arms look neat, man
L258[09:35:44] <transitbiker> one time
after a mets game some lil trollish looking dude was harassing
people on the subway platforms if they were not wearing mets gear,
and like 3 stops later the train operator stops and the cops come
looking for him
L259[09:35:48] <sirkut> thanks, i had it
on the burner when I had Infernal Robotics going
L260[09:36:17] <transitbiker> he was all
"im sorry everyone, i'm so sorry, it'll just be a few minutes
delay"
L261[09:36:58] <transitbiker> we all know
who it is, he's like taking his shirt off etc
L262[09:37:05] <transitbiker> like he has
a jersey on
L263[09:37:11] <transitbiker> with a
tshirt under it
L264[09:38:01] <transitbiker> and the cop
comes in, pokes his head in the door, and over the PA system the
conductor is like "the guy is wearing a baseball hat and a
blue shirt" cop looks each direction in the subway car, we
stay silent
L265[09:38:54] <transitbiker> then he
leaves, and we all totally crack up, we arent going to sell out a
fellow mets fan, also we were all wearing hats and blue/orange
shirts (the team colors are blue white orange and black)
L266[09:39:10] <transitbiker> everyone on
the damn train just came from the game
L267[09:39:50] <transitbiker> then the lil
trollish dude is all desperate sounding "i'm so sorry, i been
drinking, and the mets won" with his head in his hands
L268[09:40:22] <transitbiker> "i'm so
sorry, i got twins now, and its been a while" :D
L269[09:40:41] <sirkut> lol
L270[09:43:13] <transitbiker> i'll never
forget the look on that cops' face was all perplexed, clearly he
wasnt expecting the train full of game attendees
L271[09:44:16] <taniwha> sirkut: o/
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L273[09:44:50] <APlayer> Alright, I'm off
for now again. Be back later!
L274[09:44:58] <transitbiker> see ya
L275[09:44:59] <ve2dmn> transitbiker:
kinda of reminds me of my trip on Amtrak, were we got stopped at
the border for a good hour
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L277[09:46:09] <sirkut> taniwha: hey! good
to see you around still!
L278[09:46:18] <transitbiker> maple
leaf?
L279[09:46:36] <ve2dmn> transitbiker:
Amtrak 69
L280[09:46:44] <taniwha> sirkut: :)
L282[09:47:15] <transitbiker> that must be
the adirondack
L283[09:47:30] <ve2dmn> Yes
L284[09:47:34] <transitbiker> new york
penn to montreal
L285[09:47:40] <ve2dmn> Yup
L286[09:47:50] <ve2dmn> Very beautiful
scenery
L287[09:48:17] <transitbiker> there is
some effort to get a second daily trip via the old route, now only
used by the vermonter, former the montrealer
L288[09:48:36] <transitbiker> yeah, i took
the maple leaf to niagra falls
L289[09:48:48] <transitbiker> trenton nj,
nyp, nfl
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L291[09:50:02] <transitbiker> i believe
the adirondack is listed in the top 5 most scenic rail routes, and
i believe is the second behind the empire builder for a regular
passenger train ie not a private excursion or heritage
operation
L292[09:50:02] <ve2dmn> sadly, the bus is
faster
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L294[09:50:26] <ve2dmn> I took the dome
car even
L295[09:51:23] <transitbiker> yeah, they
are working on pre-clearance to shave that hour off, as well as
moving the border checks to the boarding stations and only leaving
rouses point as a crew change stop
L296[09:51:41] <sirkut> taniwha: still
busy i see, im trying to dust the cobwebs off
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L298[09:51:59] <taniwha> yeah
L299[09:52:16] <ve2dmn> transitbiker: been
hearing that for a while now...
L300[09:52:19] <transitbiker> if all the
changes are implemented, it will be 8 hours end to end
L301[09:52:23] <taniwha> been quiet for a
while myself, but I've recently become more active again
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L303[09:52:39] <transitbiker> not while
cheeto is in office, probably gotta wait
L304[09:53:03] <sirkut> taniwha: same,
trying to see if i can remember what to do with this arms mod
L305[09:53:42] <ve2dmn> transitbiker: what
I really want is an overnight train.... but it's never gonna
happen
L306[09:53:57] <transitbiker> joe boardman
wanted to make it happen, but it needed house approval for the
funding changes, and it needed a new agreement with the
canadians
L307[09:54:04] <transitbiker> yeah
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L310[09:54:16] <kmath> YouTube - My first
flight with the Trex 450
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L312[09:55:55] <ve2dmn> At this point,
I've seen enough NYC... but all the other destination are either
car-only or too far by train
L313[09:56:25] <transitbiker> well, i can
tell you, any new trains on the canadian routes will be overnight,
and any new chicago service will likely involve modifying the
pennsylvanian's schedule, as the only route that would get a
chicago expansion would be off the the keystone (phl-pbg)
corridor
L314[09:56:29] <Althego> what is that
frame below it?
L315[09:56:37] <Fluburtur> training
gear
L316[09:56:44] <Fluburtur> prevents from
tipping over
L317[09:57:51] <Fluburtur> well I have to
go again
L318[09:58:03] <ve2dmn> transitbiker: I
like trains
L319[09:58:36] <transitbiker> hehe
L320[09:58:43] <transitbiker> see ya
Fluburtur
L321[09:59:10] <ve2dmn> Only problem: I
can't get anywhere with trains around here :/
L322[09:59:41] <transitbiker> the big main
issue with anything to do with amtrak, is that outside of the
northeast corridor, and not even all of the northeast corridor,
they don't own any of the tracks
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L324[10:00:22] <ve2dmn> Even Via Rail take
hours to get anywhere...
L325[10:00:37] <ve2dmn> ...and once I get
there: no transit :/
L326[10:00:57] <transitbiker> the original
idea was to let freight operators to shed passenger services, and
let amtrak handle it, or state funded amtrak operated services
handle it, but you can't od that them give amtrak a hard time with
scheduling and stuff, the freight carriers need to be more
flexible
L327[10:01:54] <transitbiker> then the
other option is putting in additional tracks, butthat's also
complicated because the freight carrier owns the right of way
L328[10:02:03] <transitbiker> yeah, i hear
ya
L329[10:02:13] <ve2dmn> yeah, we have the
same issue in the local Montreal trains to the suburbs
L330[10:02:19] <transitbiker> AMT
L331[10:02:24] <ve2dmn> yup
L332[10:02:46] <transitbiker> they share a
lot of equipment with new jersey transit
L333[10:02:52] <transitbiker> split orders
etc
L334[10:02:52] <ve2dmn> Aside from some
new contructions, they don't own the tracks
L335[10:03:53] <transitbiker> new jersey
transit operates along amtrak's northeast corridor from trenton to
new york penn, but amtrak does not own any of the stations aside
from new york penn and a big new park and ride at metropark
L336[10:04:40] <transitbiker> so NJT can
freely upgrade its facilities as it needs to, but running the
trains themselves will always involve at least amtrak
L337[10:05:01] <transitbiker> they share
new york penn with long island railroad, and state funded amtrak
empire corridor service
L338[10:05:50] <transitbiker> its like a
constantly changing 3D jigsaw puzzle to get anything done, even
without the national polotical stuff in the picture
L339[10:07:30] <transitbiker> i know
metrolix in ontario is putting in some heavy investments into their
GO rail system, but i think Quebec has a different political
landscape
L340[10:07:31] <ve2dmn> yeah... compare
that with the JR Rail where the 'acceptable delay' to any train is
10 seconds
L341[10:08:21] <transitbiker> hm, wel lto
be fair, they had an almost blank canvas to work with on their
shinkansen routes, because it was almost all new construction,
especially though city centers
L342[10:08:55] <transitbiker> also,
there's a big cultrual difference, where having stuff work properly
is a source of great pride
L343[10:08:56] <ve2dmn> yeah, but they
needed a new law because they don't have 'eminant domain' or
whatever it's called...
L344[10:09:15] <transitbiker> mhm
L345[10:09:29] <ve2dmn> Which is why you
have so many 'hold-out houses' in Asia
L346[10:10:11] <transitbiker> the
shinkansen idea was a hard sell, but they definitely seem to be
benefiting from it
L347[10:10:20] <ve2dmn> They made a
special case for the Shinkansen because you can't really make any
big detours
L348[10:10:46] <ve2dmn> Having the
population density also helps
L349[10:11:36] <transitbiker> any time you
put a big public works project though well established communities,
you're going to run into problems, either as simple as a project
delay, or major irreversible disruption to the cultural fabric of
the community
L351[10:12:27] <transitbiker> the big
question is if the growing pains are worth it in the long
term
L352[10:17:25] <transitbiker> looks
promising
L353[10:18:05] <ve2dmn> it's an
underserved sector, but it's also low density....
L354[10:18:12] <ve2dmn> we'll see
L355[10:18:28] <ve2dmn> I wish they would
just finish the blue line
L356[10:19:31] <ve2dmn> I heard Metro line
extention promises since... 1980s
L357[10:19:47] <transitbiker> one of the
things that would, i think, really motivate transportation
efficiencies and usefulness would be funding parity
L358[10:20:35] <ve2dmn> This is still Car
Kingdom... mostly
L359[10:21:10] <transitbiker> if you look
at a chart of fund allocations in the US, you will see highway/road
funding very high, airpport and airtraffic funding is high but
comes in second, then fumbling along down along the bottom fo the
chart is rail and transit
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L361[10:21:58] <transitbiker> if you put
the same amount of money into rail and transit that you did
road/highway, holy cow we;d be cooking with gas, tons of jobs to go
around too
L362[10:24:07] <transitbiker> and
eventually your highway/road funding would decrease, because there
would be less need because of fewer private vehicles, and
eventually your stair of good repair would be up to date, and
systems would mature so your rail/transit funding need would
decrease, but the level of jobs needed wouldnt just drop back, it
would retain a meaningful percent of the initial construction etc
jobs
L363[10:24:20] <transitbiker> state of
good repair*
L364[10:24:50] <ve2dmn> yeah... welll....
politics. so not gonna touch that one :/
L365[10:24:57] <transitbiker> mhm
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L367[10:26:19] <transitbiker> some of the
side benefits are increased employee productivity due to less
travel stresses, better employment availability for people because
of the increased travel options, and more attractive to business
investments because people want to actually use the system and live
in that region
L368[10:27:48] <transitbiker> i think i'm
most frustrated about the whole situation in north america, because
we are in our own way on these kinds of issues
L369[10:28:34] <ve2dmn> My experience is
limited: I live in a bubble
L370[10:29:03] <transitbiker> its like us
and canada are teenagers that moved out of parents house, and still
trying to figure how to do things, hehe
L371[10:29:43] <transitbiker> i need more
water
L372[10:32:17] <ve2dmn> and I need to make
this stupid Docker container working....
L373[10:34:15] <transitbiker> ah man,
polar bear at the philadelpha zoo died -_-
L374[10:34:25] <transitbiker> her name was
coldilocks :D
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L378[10:40:56] <ve2dmn> Chute?
L379[10:42:13] <mrBlaQ> you win
L380[10:43:03] <ve2dmn> I mean... the moon
has an Exosphere, but it's so thin, it's not worth even thinking
of
L381[10:44:17] <transitbiker> maybe they
live in mongo, where space has atmosphere
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L386[10:48:20] <UmbralRaptor> All hail the
surface boundary exosphere!
L387[10:53:59] <Althego> flash a-aa
L388[10:54:15] <ve2dmn> Savior of the
Universe!
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L395[11:08:29] <Fluburtur> im back
L396[11:08:47] <APlayer> Hi, back! I'm
APlayer!
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L400[11:11:11] <Fluburtur> Draconiator did
you see the video of my heli flying?
L401[11:11:31] <APlayer> Oh, I did not!
Could you link it again?
L403[11:11:40] <kmath> YouTube - My first
flight with the Trex 450
L404[11:13:18] <Draconiator> Ooooh I
didn't. I subscribed to you though.
L405[11:13:27] <Fluburtur> just made it
public
L406[11:13:41] <Fluburtur> I usually keep
my videos unlisted but this one is worth making public
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L408[11:14:54] <APlayer> Nice one!
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L410[11:16:35] <Fluburtur> im very
happy
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L412[11:23:39] <Vooloo> Anyone do remote
tech? I can't get a signal outside of Kerbin sphere, even when the
signal says "ok" when I select target
L413[11:24:29] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: nice
landing :)
L414[11:24:42] <Fluburtur> thanks
L416[11:28:58] <Mat2ch> ?
L417[11:29:12] <Fluburtur>
LANDEKLAPPEN
L418[11:29:33] <Mat2ch> aaaaand? ;P
L419[11:29:45] <Fluburtur> it's written in
comic sans in the real one
L420[11:29:59] <Gasher> flaps
L422[11:30:15] <Gasher> Fluburtur, i
looked at that and i felt younger lol
L423[11:30:36] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: it's
written by hand...
L424[11:30:49] <Fluburtur> comic
sans
L425[11:30:54] <Fluburtur> I just can't
get over that
L426[11:31:05] <Fluburtur> so I yell that
when attacking peoples in war thunder
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L429[11:31:38] <Althego> your battle cry
is "comic sans"?
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L432[11:32:17] <UmbralRaptor> Are you
saying that it isn't a terrifying battle cry?
L433[11:32:47] <legion> Wingdings is
worse.
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L435[11:34:02] <Gasher> i have no idea
really why that font is some kind of boogeyman
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L438[11:34:44] <BadRocketsCo> Ugh
L439[11:34:57] <BadRocketsCo> It appears I
have fallen to a disease.
L440[11:35:32] <UmbralRaptor> It's used
for overly cutesy and faux-informal things.
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L443[11:37:16] <Gasher> i understand that
it might be overused, but that kind of reaction baffles be. these
are letters. they are readable, well, they look ugly but that's
that
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L446[11:59:28] <ve2dmn> Gasher: it's like
a lot of things, some sort of concensus that item X is the most
terrible of group Y. Think Belgium, Comic Sans, Duke Nukem
Forever....
L447[11:59:40] <Althego> hehe
L448[11:59:58] <Althego> why
belgium?
L449[12:00:15] *
APlayer hears a mention of Comic Sans?
L450[12:00:43] <Althego> reminds me of
outcast. "where did you end up, belgium? not exactly" (a
parallel world) and later "humidity 100%, i was right, it is
belgium"
L451[12:00:54] <Althego> i always liked
comic sans
L452[12:00:56] <Ezko> horrible internet in
belgium
L453[12:01:00] <Althego> and cant
understand why people hate it
L454[12:01:35] <ve2dmn> Althego: look up
the CollegeHumour Font convention video
L455[12:01:41] <APlayer> Althego: It's
used in horribly inappropriate places
L456[12:01:44] <Ezko> because it looks
childish and people use it in serious business stuff
L457[12:01:48] <ve2dmn> "Comic sans!
The boldest of them all!"
L458[12:02:07] <Althego> btw the current
font of ksp is bad. a look alone on the menu makes me cringe, the
letters are spaced differently
L460[12:02:58] <Althego> falcon
tomorrow?
L461[12:03:45] <ve2dmn> I need a new Cell
Phone. Any recommendation in the 'not Apple' camp?
L462[12:03:56] <Althego> build your own
:)
L463[12:04:09] <Althego> in a way
everything sucks
L464[12:04:36] <ve2dmn> I just want dual
sim and a headphone jack... is it too much to ask?
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L466[12:07:24] <ve2dmn> hum... maybe that
Nokia 6 phone?
L467[12:08:50] <Ezko> oneplus3 has them
but probably not available anymore
L468[12:09:01] <Ezko> mayve oneplus5 has
them?
L469[12:09:32] <ve2dmn> I still have my
OnePlus One
L470[12:09:52] <ve2dmn> But the battery is
starting to be an issue (not to mention the security of the
device)
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L472[12:10:19] <APlayer> ve2dmn: If you
solder two sim card slots (available on the web) together and stick
a headphone jack somewhere in there (available on the web too), you
will get a minimalistic, but much cheaper alternative to a
full-fledged phone
L473[12:11:27] <APlayer> As for the
battery, just change it
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L475[12:11:51] <APlayer> You may find one
for less than 20 € and your phone will be as good as new
L476[12:11:52] <ve2dmn> can't...
unremovable (grrrrrrr)
L477[12:12:11] <APlayer> Can have it done
at a workshop that specialises on phones
L478[12:12:19] <APlayer> They know how to
open them
L479[12:12:36] <ve2dmn> It's a work
device. I'm not gonna risk that
L480[12:12:52] <APlayer> It's not yours,
that is?
L481[12:12:53] <ve2dmn> ... but as soon as
I have a replacement, I will :D
L482[12:12:58] <ve2dmn> it's 100%
mine
L483[12:13:00] <APlayer> Ah
L484[12:13:02] <APlayer> Got it
L485[12:13:57] <APlayer> So, I recommend
picking a backup phone that you can just buy at a local hardware
store at a few hours notice, and, without actually buying it, have
your battery changed
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L488[12:14:30] <ve2dmn> Let's just says
that I break the mold in terms of my job description
L489[12:14:33] <APlayer> If they screw up,
you buy a new phone (shouldn't happen, but whatever). If they
succeed, you're a happy owner of an old phone :D
L490[12:15:10] <APlayer> ve2dmn: The thing
is, personally I find newer phones inferior to those from a few
years ago
L491[12:15:33] <APlayer> Got an S3 Mini
and definitely not changing it for as long as I can
L492[12:15:42] <ve2dmn> ?
L493[12:16:00] <APlayer> Why ? ?
L494[12:16:54] <ve2dmn> Never heard of
that phone
L495[12:16:59] <APlayer> Ah
L496[12:17:23] <APlayer> Well, it's one
that was released back in 2012. Was pretty popular around here back
then
L497[12:18:40] <APlayer> Pretty decent
price for the quality it offered, but unfortunately they don't sell
those anymore
L498[12:19:00] <ve2dmn> didn't know there
was a mini
L499[12:19:11] <APlayer> Now you do
:D
L500[12:19:36] <ve2dmn> And you are
probably never gonna get an update to that OS...
L501[12:20:04] <APlayer> No, I'm stuck on
Android 4.2.1
L502[12:20:10] <APlayer> 4.1.2, even
L503[12:21:09] <ve2dmn> so you are
vulnerable to Blueborne
L504[12:21:37] <APlayer> Some people are
hacking those phones to run newer OS versions, but I'm not going
that deep
L505[12:23:09] <Ezko> i've been really
happy with oneplus3
L506[12:23:16] <Ezko> or should i say 4 he
he he
L507[12:23:32] <Ezko> had a jolla before
that had its good and bad sides
L508[12:23:51] <APlayer> ve2dmn: I never
use Bluetooth
L509[12:24:02] <APlayer> Like, absolutely
never
L510[12:24:09] <ve2dmn> it's just an
example
L511[12:24:25] <Ezko> APlayer: are you
german?
L512[12:24:30] <APlayer> I am
L513[12:24:33] <APlayer> Why?
L514[12:24:47] <APlayer> And how do you
know? :D
L515[12:24:54] <Ezko> .de host
L516[12:24:59] <APlayer> Oh, LOL
L517[12:25:07] <Ezko> guess where i'm from
based on that
L518[12:25:12] <APlayer> I thought I was
making mistakes
L519[12:25:30] <ve2dmn> Ezko:
Delgium?
L520[12:25:46] <Ezko> u wot m8
L521[12:26:12] <Ezko> i lived in belgium
for 5 months
L522[12:26:25] <APlayer> Uh, BRB
guys
L523[12:27:14] <Ezko> my hostname is .de,
the server is (i think) in france and i'm finnish and live in
finland
L524[12:29:02] <ve2dmn> OVH?
L525[12:32:16] <Ezko> what? the
server?
L526[12:32:35] <Ezko> probably not, a
common friend with the server owned used to work for them and said
"never use ovh"
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L528[12:32:54] <ve2dmn> lol
L529[12:33:13] <ve2dmn> I used to work for
a local, small competitor
L530[12:35:13] <Ezko> the guy who used to
work for them did that in london
L531[12:35:57] <ve2dmn> I'm in Montreal.
They have a huge operation here because of various factors...
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L533[12:36:31] <ve2dmn> low power cost,
winters cooling, close to NYC, biligual, etc...
L534[12:36:33] <Ezko> how much french do
people actually speak in quebec?
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L536[12:37:07] <ve2dmn> Ezko: depends.
Around 70% of the province is french-speaking
L538[12:37:31] <Ezko> are they spread all
around?
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L540[12:38:00] <ve2dmn> What do you
mean?
L541[12:38:10] <Ezko> like is there a 70%
piece of quebec where almost everyone speaks french and a 30% piece
where almost everyone speaks english as their mother tongue?
L542[12:38:30] <ve2dmn> pretty much
L543[12:38:38] <Ezko> kinda like belgium
then
L544[12:38:42] <ve2dmn> kinda
L545[12:39:16] <ve2dmn> similar
issues
L546[12:39:27] <Ezko> i guess everyone
speaks english then?
L547[12:40:14] <ve2dmn> Not
everyone.
L548[12:40:19] <Ezko> alright
L549[12:40:27] <ve2dmn> In Montreal,
yes.
L550[12:40:44] <ve2dmn> But the more east
you go, the less people are bilingual
L551[12:40:47] <Ezko> in belgium the dutch
speaking people apparently mostly speak french but the french
speaking people mostly don't speak dutch
L552[12:40:53] <Ezko> or flemish whatever
you wanna call it
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L554[12:41:33] <ve2dmn> here you have to
add the vast distances
L555[12:41:35] <sirkut_> taniwha: btw your
.mu importer is still so invaluable to me.
L556[12:41:44] <Ezko> we have some areas
in finland where you can't really get service in finnish
L557[12:42:00] <Ezko> but mostly the
swedish speakers speak swedish at home and finnish everywhere
else
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L559[12:45:07] <ve2dmn> Ezko: The closest
anglophone to people in Quebec City (for example) is 200km
away...
L560[12:46:42] <ve2dmn> so unless you live
close to the border between Quebec and Ontario, or close to the US
it's usually monolingual
L561[12:46:55] <Ezko> interesting
L562[12:47:53] <ve2dmn> I mean... I can
drive (one way) for 15h without leaving the province
L563[12:48:05] <Ezko> north?
L564[12:48:12] <ve2dmn> north
L566[12:48:34] <Ezko> well canada looks
like you can always drive north and you'll end up having no more
roads
L567[12:48:49] <Ezko> i have to drive 15
hours to leave the country aswell
L569[12:49:11] <Ezko> i mean if i want to
only drive nroth
L570[12:49:13] <Ezko> north
L571[12:49:32] <ve2dmn> Ezko: if I drive
north for 15h, I don't even make it to half of the province.
L572[12:49:37] <ve2dmn> The roads stop
there
L573[12:50:13] <Ezko> land stops after
around 16 hours of driving north from here
L574[12:50:45] <ve2dmn>
https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/Montr%C3%A9al,+QC/Radisson,+QC/@49.5509139,-80.1519235,6z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x4cc91a541c64b70d:0x654e3138211fefef!2m2!1d-73.567256!2d45.5016889!1m5!1m1!1s0x4d06b8ad59edc0ff:0xc08f5038eee2549c!2m2!1d-77.616743!2d53.792039!3e0
L575[12:50:59] <Ezko> the next land after
that is the archipelago that's a part of norway
L576[12:51:10] <Ezko> svalbard i think in
english?
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L578[12:51:53] <Ezko> ve2dmn: funny thing
is radisson is still 7 degrees south of helsinki
L580[12:52:00] <ve2dmn> I know
L581[12:52:27] <ve2dmn> And the only
reason there is a road there is because of the hydro-dam
L583[12:52:49] <Ezko> we have hotels
called radisson blue <something> here
L584[12:52:50] <ve2dmn> you can drive for
200km without seeing a single gaz station
L585[12:53:20] <Ezko> blu not blue
L586[12:54:19] <Draconiator> Flies pretty
good though
L587[12:54:44] <Ezko> that looks like it
would
L588[12:54:55] <Ezko> ve2dmn: have you
ever been to the hudson bay?
L589[12:55:01] <ve2dmn> no
L590[12:55:09] <ve2dmn> Why would I want
to go there?
L591[12:55:27] <Ezko> yeah good
point
L592[12:55:30] <Ezko> bit like
lapland
L593[12:56:13] <ve2dmn> only First nations
and mines in that area
L594[12:56:40] <ve2dmn> 90% of the
population is within 100km of the St-lawrence
L595[12:57:35] <Ezko> some funny looking
lakes in quebec
L596[12:57:52] <ve2dmn> which one?
L597[12:57:58] <Ezko> like lac
manicouagan
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L599[12:58:11] <ve2dmn> that's a
reservoir
L600[12:58:38] <Ezko> the eastern shore of
hudson bay is pretty interestin too
L601[12:58:41] <ve2dmn> All that water is
held by a hydro-dam
L603[12:59:24] <ve2dmn> but the lake is a
crater
L604[12:59:47] <Ezko> cool
L605[13:00:14] <Ezko> i thought of
applying for student exchange to saskatoon but my gpa wasn't high
enough
L606[13:00:21] <Ezko> and apparently it
might have been not very nice :D
L607[13:00:37] <ve2dmn> Why
saskatoon?
L608[13:00:58] <Ezko> cause our uni has
two options in the spring semester and one of them is
saskatoon
L609[13:01:01] <Ezko> in canada i
mean
L610[13:01:24] <ve2dmn> it's flat
L611[13:01:35] *
APlayer likes flat places
L612[13:01:39] <Ezko> and much colder than
here apparently
L613[13:01:48] <ve2dmn> yup
L614[13:02:00] <APlayer> Can watch regular
sunrises and sunsets if lucky
L615[13:02:19] <Ezko> APlayer: forests are
in the way here :(
L616[13:04:01] <APlayer> I could drive to
places where I could watch sunrises or sunsets here, but the
weather has been bad since the middle of November, with the
exception of maybe a total of 10 days or so, and I never get out of
the house somehow
L617[13:04:18] <ve2dmn> Ezko: what was the
other option?
L618[13:04:22] <Ezko> toronto
L619[13:04:24] <APlayer> Sometimes I have
a decent view at sunrises right out of my room, but that's
rare
L620[13:05:00] <APlayer> Can't see sunsets
because there is a house in front of the west windows
L621[13:05:00] <ve2dmn> talk about polar
opposites
L622[13:05:58] <APlayer> Best part of
holidays is honestly, if we live somewhere with a clear view at
sunset and I can watch it every evening
L623[13:06:13] <Ezko> my windows face
south but the sun rises north east and sets north west here so no
seeing that
L624[13:06:31] <Ezko> in the summer
L625[13:06:36] <ve2dmn> APlayer: get a
house in florida with a view inside the Gulf of Mexico
L626[13:06:41] <Ezko> during winter it's
mostly cloudy
L627[13:07:06] <APlayer> I'd sacrifice a
lot of comforts in a holiday flat in order to find one where I can
watch sunsets or sunrises
L628[13:08:07] <APlayer> ve2dmn: Will
probably move out of the house soon because university. Will 100%
try to find a place where I can see sunsets
L629[13:08:23] <ve2dmn> APlayer: I used to
watch the sun rise over the St-lawrence every morning when I was
young.
L630[13:08:27] <APlayer> Most likely not
florida, though
L631[13:08:28] <Ezko> APlayer: get a place
in finland by a lake that faces north
L632[13:08:48] <ve2dmn> we had a house
with the backyard on the riverside
L633[13:09:02] <Ezko> or just move to
utsjoki and have the sun up for 2 months
L634[13:09:24] <APlayer> Ezko: Means no
sunsets/sunrises for two months :P
L635[13:09:35] <Ezko> well what do you
need those for
L636[13:09:45] <APlayer> Aesthetics
L637[13:09:56] <Ezko> APlayer: if you ever
come to finland for holiday do it mid summer
L638[13:10:12] <APlayer> This year's
holidays will be in Norway
L639[13:10:19] <APlayer> Mid summer,
too
L640[13:10:21] <Ezko> the sky is beautiful
as intercourse all night
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L642[13:10:30] <Ezko> nice, where in
norway?
L643[13:10:40] <Draconiator> Well I had a
jump jet engine and they are awesome when used as regular
engines.
L644[13:10:41] <APlayer> Uh, please keep
the analogies clean
L645[13:10:51] <APlayer> Ezko: Not
entirely sure on that yet
L646[13:11:17] <Ezko> make it somewhere
where you can see north and remember that there are a lot of
mountains in norway
L647[13:11:20] <Ezko> and fjords
L648[13:11:54] <Ezko> lemme see if i can
find a picture
L649[13:12:02] <APlayer> I was there once
already
L650[13:12:10] <APlayer> Woods all over
the place
L651[13:12:12] <Ezko> oh nice
L652[13:12:30] <Ezko> yeah i assume the
number is the same for all of fennoscandia, but finland is 70%
forest
L653[13:12:31] <APlayer> Will most likely
not be a sunset-watching holiday
L654[13:12:47] <APlayer> Perhaps the
weather will be decent enough for stargazing, though
L655[13:13:14] <Ezko> in the summer?
L656[13:13:21] <ve2dmn> Ezko: btw, did you
have any idea of the population of Saskatoon?
L657[13:13:24] <APlayer> Why not?
L658[13:13:30] <Ezko> APlayer: umm
L659[13:13:36] <Ezko> alright i'll link
the picture
L660[13:13:42] <APlayer> Not going beyond
the arctic circle
L662[13:13:56] <Ezko> ve2dmn: very
low
L663[13:14:17] <APlayer> Ezko: That must
be rather far up there
L664[13:14:33] <ve2dmn> Ezko: also: do
expect to be able to drive anywhere else...
L665[13:14:37] <ve2dmn> don't*
L666[13:14:49] <APlayer> When we were
there, it was nowhere near as bright after midnight
L667[13:15:16] <ve2dmn> brb meeting
L669[13:15:33] <Ezko> ve2dmn: i did my
student exchange already, in belgium
L670[13:16:07] <Ezko> APlayer: way too
bright in finland to see more than the brightest stars in the
middle of summer
L671[13:16:37] <APlayer> Ezko: We were a
tiny tad further to the North, at some fjord on the North-west
coast
L672[13:17:09] <Ezko> when?
L673[13:17:11] <Ezko> august?
L674[13:17:27] <APlayer> Can't remember
the name of the next town, but Trondheim was rather close:
https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Trondheim,+Norway/@63.4186677,10.2986826,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m22!1m16!4m15!1m6!1m2!1s0x4cc91a541c64b70d:0x654e3138211fefef!2zTW9udHLDqWFsLCBRQw!2m2!1d-73.567256!2d45.5016889!1m6!1m2!1s0x4d06b8ad59edc0ff:0xc08f5038eee2549c!2sRadisson,+QC!2m2!1d-77.616743!2d53.792039!3e0!3m4!1s0x466d319747037e53:0xbf7c8288f3c
L675[13:17:27] <APlayer>
f3d4!8m2!3d63.4305531!4d10.3951263
L676[13:17:36] <APlayer> Okay, I broke the
link
L677[13:17:38] <ve2dmn> I hope to be able
to go to Iceland one day :/
L678[13:17:47] <APlayer> Ezko: Possibly it
was late summer, yes
L679[13:17:53] <APlayer> But definitely
summer
L680[13:19:27] <APlayer> ve2dmn: This
Norway holiday was initially planned to be an Iceland holiday with
friends. Unfortunately, some could not due to financial reasons,
and some could not due to other reasons, so there would be only us
and another family. Decided we'd go to Norway as a "less
special" holiday and hope we will make it to Iceland another
time
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L682[13:19:46] <transitbiker> this thing
is very overweight, only two juno and its like
L683[13:19:57] <transitbiker> 14
tons
L684[13:20:04] <transitbiker> very heavy
for its size
L685[13:20:07] <transitbiker> -.-
L686[13:21:52] <Ezko> APlayer: yeah the
light levels change pretty fast up here :P
L687[13:22:03] <Ezko> like you can see a
very clear difference from 2 months ago
L688[13:22:51] <Ezko> 4 hours more of
sunlight now i think
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L690[13:49:24] <APlayer> So, when you're
debugging kOS software and the mission fails because of a hardware
fault...
L691[13:57:04] <UmbralRaptor> … as in your
computer died?
L692[13:57:51] <APlayer> As in the rocket
rapidly and unscheduled-ly disintegrated
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L694[13:59:02] <APlayer> The fairing broke
off (for some unknown reason), hit the second stage tank during a
pitch maneuver, the first stage crashed into the payload and all
sort of stuff broke lose
L695[14:00:03] <APlayer> TL;DR, a broken
off faring managed to fully destruct the rocket within two or three
seconds
L696[14:00:25] <Gasher> lol happens
L697[14:00:29] <Gasher> sometimes on
pad
L698[14:01:08] <mrcus> Speaking of
fairings
L699[14:01:27] <mrcus> Is there any way to
avoid collisions when using them as shrouds for interstages?
L700[14:02:09] <APlayer> Do not separate
them
L701[14:02:11] <mrcus> They tend to get
stuck and then I have a dead stage glued to the bottom of my rocket
:(
L702[14:02:20] <APlayer> Uh, pics?
L703[14:02:45] *
mrcus starts teamviewer
L705[14:02:50] <APlayer> I usually keep
them fixed to the bottom stage and decouple the upper stage from
the whole assembly, and it works
L706[14:03:12] <APlayer> I use a
single-segment structural fairing for that, usually
L707[14:08:38] <mrcus> sorry, what do you
mean by single-segment?
L708[14:09:41] <APlayer> Uh, you can
specify how many parts the fairing should be made of
L709[14:09:48] <APlayer> Default is 4, I
think
L710[14:10:08] <APlayer> I set it to 1 and
have one solid interstage fairing ring
L711[14:10:26] <APlayer> (You're talking
about procedural fairings, right?)
L713[14:11:11] <mrcus> The stock fairings,
yes
L715[14:11:31] <APlayer> Uh, I am using a
mod for fairings
L717[14:12:11] <ve2dmn> APlayer: so the
rocket did not fare well?
L718[14:12:11] <APlayer> Set the sides to
1 (or 2 is probably the minimum, isn't it?)
L719[14:12:21] <tawny> turning off
clamshell deploy makes it less likely to get stuck
L720[14:12:24] <APlayer> ve2dmn: Well, it
flared well :P
L721[14:12:34] <mrcus> 2 is the minimum,
yeah.
L723[14:13:06] <mrcus> tawny: Yeah, my
current solution is to confetti destroy it pre-separation with max
ejection force
L724[14:13:20] <Rolf> still dunno on
those. still have hopes though lol
L725[14:14:14] <ve2dmn> Rolf: what does
the new data says?
L726[14:14:24] <Rolf> watching video
now
L727[14:14:31] <mrcus> well hopefully it's
some exotic new kind of interaction that explains something about
physics that we didn't know
L728[14:14:43] <mrcus> more probably it's
not, though
L729[14:15:00] <APlayer> "No, the EM
Drive is not a warp drive, the two are very different
things."
L730[14:15:18] <Rolf> mrcus: yeah. my wild
guess is that it pushes on those pararcles that disappear before it
hits other end
L731[14:15:30] <ve2dmn> Am at work.
TL;DR?
L732[14:15:43] <Rolf> and cone shape
averages direction out
L733[14:15:51] <Rolf> watching
L734[14:17:06] <ve2dmn> Either it works
and we have new stuff to research or it does not and we prove that
our current theory is solid
L735[14:17:10] <APlayer> But free impulse?
Sure, guys?
L736[14:17:18] <ve2dmn> Either way:
SCIENCE!
L737[14:17:26] <Rolf> chen yue researcher:
not clear on science, risky to go to engineering r&d
L738[14:17:33] <Althego> i think i finally
cracked the moho probe. have to make the last stage ion. and it
basically brings back the science container
L739[14:17:34] <Rolf> skipping stuff we
all know, like sat needs fuel blah blah
L740[14:18:21] <Althego> but that tech is
not available until bob comes back, which is a few hours. but the
later i start with it, the more delta v i will have around moho in
the nuclear stage for maneuvering
L741[14:18:22] <APlayer> How much do those
EM-drives mass? Can they not just spend one million or so to make a
demonstration sat, rather than spend many millions on proving and
disproving if it works?
L742[14:18:33] <Rolf> yue: facing great
challenge, back then didnt know design was workable. has no precise
method to test it
L744[14:19:06] <Althego> hehe
L745[14:19:14] <APlayer> Draconiator:
Careful, so it does not turn into a landing speed record
L746[14:19:24] <Draconiator> lol
L747[14:19:27] <Rolf> yue: used trial and
error approach.
L748[14:19:38] <Rolf> skipping useless
info on company and how research was funded
L749[14:20:50] <ve2dmn> Rolf: they are
trying to sell this thing????
L750[14:21:22] <APlayer> Hey, it's china.
They are trying to sell all sorts of things
L751[14:21:24] <mrcus> Well honestly
people are selling rocks claiming that they "restore a calm
energy field around the wearer"
L752[14:21:24] <APlayer> :P
L753[14:21:37] <Rolf> apparently they
designed dongfanghong-5 satellite that will have test system for
testing in space
L754[14:21:56] <Althego> hah
L755[14:21:57] <Rolf> so its not proven in
orbit. I guess he said its proven in lab conditions but dunno
L756[14:22:00] *
APlayer approves of tech demo sat
L757[14:22:04] <mrcus> "Dongfanghong
= The East is Red #5"
L758[14:22:05] <Althego> finally someody
disproves it once and for all
L759[14:22:22] <Althego> red5? lol
L760[14:23:28] <mrcus> It probably is just
a conspiracy to increase the sale of microwave ovens
L761[14:23:44] <mrcus> "Powering
spacecraft - and your dinner"
L762[14:23:48] <ve2dmn> mrcus: my late
grandfather had those 'magnetic bracelets'... *sigh*
L763[14:23:59] <mrcus> And he still died?
Shocking
L764[14:24:05] <ve2dmn> I know
L765[14:24:22] <Rolf> heh everyone belives
in something bullshit
L766[14:24:27] <Rolf> yes you and me
too
L768[14:24:37] <kmath> YouTube - How did
the Apollo flight computers get men to the moon and back ?
L769[14:24:39] <ve2dmn> I believe in
Vitamin D as the perfect placebo for me
L770[14:24:43] <Apexseals> explains it
quite well
L771[14:25:00] <Apexseals> as to why the
apollo computer is vastly more suited for space travel than any
home computer.
L772[14:25:04] <Apexseals> despite how
powerful they are.
L773[14:25:25] <mrcus> My bullshit belief
is that I belive in no bullshit beliefs
L774[14:25:39] <APlayer> Guys, please no
swearing!
L775[14:25:44] <Apexseals> i believe
there's a teapot orbiting the sun
L776[14:25:58] <Rolf> sorry
L777[14:25:58] <APlayer> (@Rolf,
@mrcus)
L778[14:26:02] <mrcus> I meant
bullpoo
L779[14:26:04] <mrcus> sorry
L780[14:26:14] <APlayer> That's better!
Thank you. :-)
L781[14:26:14] <Draconiator> I SWEAR THAT
I WON'T SWEAR (unless in IMs)
L782[14:26:28] <ve2dmn> it's
'cow-manure'
L783[14:26:35] <Rolf> cow brown
matter
L784[14:26:47] <APlayer> Male-cow final
stage of digestion
L785[14:27:02] <Draconiator> Cow Gardening
Matter
L786[14:27:42] <Draconiator> Actually I
think I'll use that in RL. rofl
L787[14:27:53] <APlayer> Cow gardening
sounds interesting. Solves the space meat problem once and for
all
L788[14:28:29] <ve2dmn> Digestive
rejections matter of the male representative of the Cow
domesticated species
L789[14:28:43] <Apexseals> the AGC was
designed to not crash, ever. unlike your home pc
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L791[14:28:59] <APlayer> ve2dmn: Actual
NASA euphemism: Ejecta
L792[14:29:01] <Apexseals> it literally
cannot crash like what you expect.
L793[14:29:25] <ve2dmn> Apexseals: yet,
they had to debug it in-flight before landing
L794[14:29:28] <Draconiator> You can swear
all you want...but just not in here.
L795[14:29:41] <Apexseals> wasnt
debuging
L796[14:29:45] <mrcus> Just put the
Indians in charge of the space program, that will solve it.
L797[14:29:50] <mrcus> 31% vegetarians
over there
L798[14:30:21] <APlayer> mrcus: They are
on their way to catch up with NASA, actually
L799[14:30:27] <Apexseals> aldrin and
armstrong kept the docking radar on, which essentially overtasked
the ecu
L800[14:30:30] <mrcus> Bonus: Indian food
in space. What's not to like
L801[14:30:34] <Apexseals> er, not ecu,
computer
L802[14:30:59] <mrcus> APlayer: I noticed!
I saw that reddit post about the lunar missions costing less than
Interstellar
L803[14:31:05] <Apexseals> but, the
computer never crashed
L804[14:31:12] <Draconiator> I like
"bullhonkey" as a swear word, originates from Strong
Bad.
L805[14:31:23] <Apexseals> lol strong bad
emails
L806[14:31:26] <Apexseals> EVERYBODY TO
THE LIMIT
L808[14:31:31] <kmath> YouTube - The
Computer Hack That Saved Apollo 14
L809[14:31:34] <mrcus> THE SYSTEM IS
DOWN
L810[14:31:43] <APlayer> Interstellar, as
in the movie? Or an interstellar mission?
L811[14:31:45] <Apexseals> come on
fhqwhgads
L812[14:31:54] <mrcus> APlayer: the
movie
L813[14:31:58] <APlayer> Ah
L814[14:32:00] <Apexseals> oh that wasnt a
hack either
L815[14:32:06] <Apexseals> that was a bad
connection causing a false abort signal
L816[14:32:08] <APlayer> I thought I saw
some sarcasm there, heh
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L818[14:32:20] <ve2dmn> Apexseals: still
clever
L819[14:32:32] <Guest18906> Is there any
more info on making history, like what will it include
part-wise?
L821[14:32:52] <kmath> YouTube - Strong
Bad Email #45 - Techno
L822[14:33:15] <Apexseals> "
L823[14:33:17] <Apexseals> "First,
the lander's computer received an "abort" signal from a
faulty switch."
L824[14:33:18] <APlayer> Wasn't Apollo 14
also nearly aborted at launch due to a lightning strike?
L825[14:33:26] <Apexseals> no that was
apollo 12
L826[14:33:30] <Apexseals> with alan
bean
L827[14:33:52] <Apexseals> FCE to
aux
L828[14:34:09] <Apexseals> SCE lol
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L831[14:34:22] <kmath> YouTube - Apollo 12
Launch - CSM Onboard Audio
L832[14:35:28] <Guest18906> What is this
BS about "bouncing off the atmosphere" they say in space
movies?
L833[14:35:45] <Apexseals> moving fast
enough, you hit the atmosphere at a bad angle
L834[14:35:51] <Apexseals> you litterally
skip off the atmosphere back into space
L835[14:36:05] <Apexseals> because you
didnt dig into the atmosphere enough, to cause you to slow down and
go down further into it
L836[14:36:12] <mrcus> as in you deflect
out to space or you just don't slow enough down?
L837[14:36:22] <Guest18906> But if you're
in a stable orbit you will just reenter, eventually
L838[14:36:43] <ve2dmn> Guest18906: yes,
but you might land in... say... Bueno Aires
L839[14:36:43] <Apexseals> yes, but will
your life support systems last long enough
L840[14:36:54] <Guest18906> ahh
L841[14:36:58] <Apexseals> your next
intercept with the plant you're orbiting may be in days
L842[14:36:59] <Guest18906> thx
L843[14:37:02] <Apexseals> you'll be dead
by then.
L844[14:37:15] <mrcus> Guest18906: and
what angle will the nex encounter with the atmosphere be
L845[14:37:27] <Apexseals> and even by the
next encounter
L846[14:37:32] <Apexseals> you might skip
off again
L847[14:37:42] <mrcus> or burn up.
L848[14:37:47] <Apexseals> that was the
problem apollo 13 faced
L849[14:37:58] <Apexseals> skipping off
the atmosphere because they werent loaded down with moon rocks as
they say
L850[14:38:13] <Fluburtur> well, ordered
my 3d printer
L851[14:38:21] <Apexseals> what
model?
L852[14:38:34] <Fluburtur> anet a8
L853[14:38:48] <Fluburtur> went on the 3d
printer irc and they told be it was good with some upgrades
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L855[14:38:53] <Apexseals> what cam
software?
L856[14:39:21] <Fluburtur> you mean
cad?
L857[14:39:23] <Apexseals> there's
additive machining, and subtractive machining
L858[14:39:28] <Fluburtur> I use fusion
360 usually
L859[14:39:32] <Fluburtur> it's additive
stuff
L860[14:39:34] <Apexseals> well CAD
software would require some type of CAM addon
L861[14:39:55] <Fluburtur> there is the
thing to turn 3d models into datausable by the printer
L862[14:40:08] <Apexseals> most 3d
printers use g code
L863[14:40:18] <Apexseals> which is what
standard cnc machines use
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L865[14:40:51] <Apexseals> my problem is i
want a large 3d printer
L866[14:41:06] <ve2dmn> Apexseals: how
large?
L867[14:41:07] <Fluburtur> cr10 then
L868[14:41:11] <Fluburtur> or cr10
mini
L869[14:41:14] <Fluburtur> plenty
large
L870[14:41:27] <Rolf> freecad also has cam
but not expecially good
L871[14:43:48] <Apexseals> trying to find
it
L872[14:43:53] <Apexseals> had it
bookmarked
L873[14:44:32] <Fluburtur> I will probably
use cura for slicing 3d models
L874[14:44:41] <Fluburtur> I know how to
use it rather well
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L881[15:16:04] <ve2dmn> Apexseals: somehow
the name 'Ultimaker' is the only one that comes to mind....
L882[15:16:49] <ve2dmn> but that is from
YEARS ago. Before Makerbot got bought
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L885[15:31:02] <ve2dmn> btw, if you get
the chance, watch the movie 'print the legend'
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L887[16:01:42] <Apexseals> ah
L888[16:01:43] <Apexseals> found it
L890[16:01:47] <Apexseals> gigabot
L891[16:02:06] <ve2dmn>
"Freight" shipping....
L892[16:02:08] <ve2dmn> I see
L893[16:02:26] <Apexseals> 590 x 760 x
600mm
L894[16:02:39] <Apexseals> something along
those lines
L895[16:02:49] <Apexseals> to 3d print car
parts i need for my old car, the plastic is brittle
L896[16:02:57] <Apexseals> and buying NOS
will just result in the same brittle old parts
L897[16:03:04] <Apexseals> 80's plastic
yo
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L900[16:05:30] <Apexseals> yeah but thats
unlikely to amount to anything
L901[16:05:47] <ve2dmn> It's just
big...
L902[16:05:54] <Apexseals> yes, it
is
L903[16:05:57] <Apexseals> but rather
pointless
L904[16:07:02] <ve2dmn> I also think
nobody told them what 'WASP' meant...
L905[16:07:42] <Apexseals> problem i have
with ordering any devices like 3d printers from china is tech
support
L906[16:07:46] <Apexseals> its going to be
minimal at best.
L907[16:08:18] <ve2dmn> Same issue I have
with buying a phone on Amazon
L908[16:08:46] <ve2dmn> but if I want,
say, the Nokia 6, I have no choice
L909[16:09:48] <Apexseals> i would prefer
a lead screw for a 3d printer too
L910[16:09:51] <Apexseals> rather than
belts
L911[16:10:00] <Apexseals> lead screw is
much more long lasting
L912[16:10:32] <Apexseals> basically what
most use for z axis, is a lead screw
L913[16:10:36] <Apexseals> but you'd have
it on X and Y
L914[16:11:05] <ve2dmn> I used to own a 3d
printer, back in.... well... 2010?
L915[16:12:21] <ve2dmn> not 100% sure. It
was the Makerbot Cupcake
L916[16:14:50] <ve2dmn> had trouble with
the Z axis 'skipping'
L917[16:15:06] <ve2dmn> anyway...
L918[16:15:36] <Apexseals> probably belt
driven
L919[16:15:45] <Apexseals> a lead screw is
highly unlikely to skip
L920[16:17:20] <Apexseals> looks like they
just used some threaded rods with a belt driving the rod lol
L921[16:17:33] <Apexseals> not directly
driven
L922[16:17:51] <Apexseals> that would
definitely skip
L923[16:20:47] <Apexseals> if a lead screw
is accurate and strong enough to drive a machine cutting metal, its
good enough to drive a 3d printer
L924[16:20:49] <Apexseals> but it costs
more
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L931[17:09:35] <transitbiker> crew
abandoned ship, but the airplane still flies on
L932[17:09:46] <transitbiker> no probe
core or anything
L933[17:10:13] <transitbiker> best test of
flight stability is to check how the thing responds unmanned
L934[17:10:25] <transitbiker> no inputs
possible
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L948[17:38:30] <ve2dmn> Apexseals: you
realise that was close to 8 years ago?
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L950[17:38:57] <ve2dmn> It came as a kit
that you had to assemble.
L951[17:39:08] <ve2dmn> Just that was a
fun project
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L953[17:41:29] <ve2dmn> Anyway, I sold it
in 2013
L954[17:41:54] <ve2dmn> I don't regret the
purchase. I learned a lot
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L967[18:33:06] <Draconiator> These "X
but Y" videos on YouTube are driving me bonkers.
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L973[18:41:00] <ve2dmn> "We are no1,
but 100% silent"?
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L975[18:41:43] <Draconiator> Yeah.
L977[18:42:05] <kmath> YouTube - Shooting
Stars but it's played on a $1 piano that I found on ebay
L979[18:43:37] <kmath> YouTube - We Are
Number One but it's KAZOO'd!
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L982[18:48:36] <Draconiator> alscc
replacincc evercc lascc lettecc witcc doublcc
CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCsssss arrrrrrrrgh, yep there goes humanity
down the toilet of history folks...oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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L1002[21:58:46] <Guest86140> Hi all! I
was wondering if there was a water roquet mod? (i love water roquet
and it would be nice to reproduce them in kerbal..)
L1003[22:01:40] <Draconiator> Huh?
L1004[22:01:45] *
Draconiator looks that up
L1005[22:02:21] <Draconiator> Oh wait,
you mean rocket.
L1006[22:03:03] <Draconiator> hmmm....I'm
not sure....but they probably won't go very far.
L1007[22:07:19] <Draconiator> I like the
idea of water croquet though...
L1008[22:11:43] <Guest86140> Well, i know
they wont go very far! but it would be nice to see how far a giant
water rocket would go!
L1009[22:12:46] <Guest86140> if no mod is
available, is there is a mod with customisable part? like a engine
with customisable strenght, isp, fuel, mass?
L1010[22:13:33] <Guest86140> (i tryed
googling water rocket ksp, but it show only nuclear salt water
rocket)
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L1012[22:17:36] <CP44> Without being a
modder, I'm going to say that you would add water as a custom
resource type (like with a mod) and get a tank and engine to use
it.
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L1018[22:27:16] <Guest86140> Hum, thanks
CP44, thats what i ad in mind... So i guess no one did it yet =(
(i'm not a moder, so i guess i'm out of luck!)
L1019[22:32:10] <CP44> I didn't see any
obvious hints that someone made such a thing so far, but it looks
like the discussions of water rockets have been on the
forums.
L1020[22:37:41] <CP44> If you feel like
experimenting, I have a guess that it might be possible to 'make a
mod' that defines the resource type and makes copies of stock
engines and tanks that would use the resource by just copying
folders and editing text files. I'm not sure enough on any of that
to guide in the Official channel, though.
L1021[22:39:01] <Guest86140> Do you have
a link to the forum for that? i havent find anything so far! would
be really helpfull!
L1023[22:41:10] <CP44> ^ I ended up
there.
L1024[22:42:21] <CP44> So... Parts
section, where a resource is used and specified by name
L1025[22:43:03] <CP44> and 4 -
"Resource Configuration Files" so that the resource can
exist.
L1026[22:45:59] <Guest86140> Many many
thanks =)
L1027[22:48:31] <CP44> Best of luck... :
>
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L1029[23:02:48] <Draconiator> I'm
starting to think my house is haunted....I charged my phone
completely 3 days ago, and the battery was dead earlier.
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L1031[23:07:28] <taniwha> check the
software running on your phone
L1032[23:07:33] <taniwha> much more
likely cause :P
L1033[23:12:53] <Draconiator> it's an LG
flip phone, the only thing it usually runs is the custom OS they
use.
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