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L7[00:43:05] <BadRocketsCo> Howdy
L8[00:43:44] <taniwha> hi, BadRocketsCo
L9[00:44:00] <taniwha> new feature for an upcoming EL: http://taniwha.org/~bill/screenshot4233.png
L10[00:44:25] <taniwha> (resource transfer manager that's sort of an advanced TAC fuel balancer)
L11[00:44:35] <taniwha> it seems to be done enough
L12[00:45:17] <BadRocketsCo> Oh, cool!
L13[00:45:57] <taniwha> resource containers are grouped by symmetry and then by module (docking ports, decouplers, etc)
L14[00:46:15] <taniwha> (user sees just the modules)
L15[00:48:29] <BadRocketsCo> Very nice!
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L33[03:25:31] <Gasher[work]> aaaa kraken attack. the craft accelerates by itself
L34[03:26:36] <TheKosmonaut> Gasher[work]: em drive confirmed
L35[03:27:42] <Gasher[work]> also it seems that engines stop working - they are fired but no effect
L36[03:27:48] <Gasher[work]> and i can't control ships
L37[03:28:17] <Gasher[work]> it happened when i got to phys range of an asteroid with two crafts attached to it
L38[03:29:57] <Gasher[work]> also unexplainable drain of power
L39[03:32:39] <Gasher[work]> turned off everything - it is still draining. with four gigantors on board
L40[03:34:50] <Gasher[work]> weird. the other craft which i detached from the asteroid is now rotating on the point where the CoM of asteroid used to be in reference to the Klaw
L41[03:37:23] <Gasher[work]> hm
L42[03:37:42] <Gasher[work]> if i center on asteroid i can start timewarp so that physics stop
L43[03:37:54] <Gasher[work]> and the asteroid starts behaving normal again
L44[03:38:19] <Gasher[work]> though craft starts wobbling again when i center on it and starts gettign that kraken acceleration
L45[03:38:34] <Gasher[work]> which also makes it to rotate
L46[03:39:19] <Gasher[work]> AND drains its power, which is the most surprising part
L47[03:41:10] <Gasher[work]> enough, loading and lunchtime finished
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L49[03:47:09] <Gasher[work]> hm
L50[03:47:21] <Gasher[work]> it was most likely physical range extender mod
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L88[07:35:16] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/415139110584320000/27972590_772877172901433_6060425021302254003_n.png
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L90[07:45:52] <transitbiker> bwoop
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L100[08:24:25] <transitbiker> WOOOO i docked a fricking thing that has a huge full tank grabbed by a claw
L101[08:24:47] <Fluburtur> yo transit
L102[08:24:49] <transitbiker> its like, just a fuel tank floating in orbit, so i grabbed it, then docked it, time ot refuel!
L103[08:24:56] <transitbiker> ahoy
L104[08:25:05] <Fluburtur> have you seen my heli
L105[08:25:28] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkwWaFAd_r8
L106[08:25:28] <kmath> YouTube - DSC 8413
L107[08:25:32] <transitbiker> no, did you lose it? fly to usa?
L108[08:25:35] <transitbiker> ah :D
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L110[08:27:03] <transitbiker> one sec, transfer fuel
L111[08:27:37] <transitbiker> one thing i am going to attempt soon, after everyone is better from flu, is assemble pad launchable rocket in orbit
L112[08:27:47] <transitbiker> everyone but me got sick x-x
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L125[09:14:49] <ve2dmn> APlayer: I lost time to the Kraken yesterday
L126[09:15:16] <ve2dmn> luckely it wasn't the station
L127[09:15:17] * APlayer listens intently
L128[09:19:57] <ve2dmn> Docked a supply ship and the station started shakin
L129[09:20:08] <ve2dmn> Up to self-destruction
L130[09:24:32] <Deddly> Ouch
L131[09:24:39] <Deddly> That sucks
L132[09:27:37] <Deddly> You only lost time?
L133[09:29:35] <ve2dmn> Revert worked
L134[09:30:24] <ve2dmn> It seems I'll have to de-orbit those stations. My HexaCore stations have too high a part count
L135[09:31:37] <Deddly> Aaw
L136[09:32:05] <APlayer> Replace some modules, perhaps?
L137[09:35:29] <ve2dmn> Maybe...
L138[09:36:02] <ve2dmn> I'm basically waiting for the science lab to finishe before doing a deorbit
L139[09:36:12] <APlayer> Also, I recommend SSTU, which is a part mod that adds pretty much everything with low part count
L140[09:36:28] <ve2dmn> Planning to build a bigger station with Large Konstruction ports
L141[09:37:58] <ve2dmn> Hexacore model: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/857235404789404590/3309958664D1ECFFF3627D0227614C3569CA0B75/
L142[09:38:24] <ve2dmn> Newer stations: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/922545842708591487/ACA27C59A0076A305C935699DDA4F9BA92ADF61B/
L143[09:38:45] <APlayer> Nice! But the first one looks rather crowded
L144[09:39:28] <ve2dmn> I was limited to the standard docking port, so I made a six-way symetry
L145[09:40:18] <ve2dmn> It works and it's solid once the parts are docked correctly... which was not the case with my Mun Sation
L146[09:41:22] <ve2dmn> And the first one is crowded because it double as the LKO refuel station, so I have spare tanks that are half-empty stages
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L148[09:43:51] <APlayer> I've not built stations for ages
L149[09:43:55] <APlayer> I should do it again
L150[09:44:20] <APlayer> Will not do it for ages to come, though, still working on a single mission
L151[09:44:46] <ve2dmn> I always have everything running in parrallel
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L155[09:52:26] <Deddly> Just so you all know, Mod9000 can now point people to the demo like this:
L156[09:52:29] <Mod9000> There's an old demo on steam - tinyurl.com/kspdemo
L157[09:52:57] <ve2dmn> demo?
L158[09:53:09] <APlayer> KSP demo version
L159[09:53:13] <ve2dmn> ha, THE demo
L160[09:53:25] * ve2dmn is too old
L161[09:53:28] <Deddly> Can someone test that link?
L162[09:53:39] <UmbralRaptor> Just so you all know, Mod9000 can now point people to the demo like this:
L163[09:53:41] <Mod9000> There's an old demo on steam - tinyurl.com/kspdemo
L164[09:53:55] <UmbralRaptor> Make Toolbar Button
L165[09:53:55] <UmbralRaptor> Redirection
L166[09:53:55] <UmbralRaptor> Preview Featurecool!
L167[09:53:56] <UmbralRaptor> Link to Us!
L168[09:53:56] <Deddly> I mean click the link please :)
L169[09:53:57] <UmbralRaptor> Terms of use
L170[09:53:58] <UmbralRaptor> Contact Us!
L171[09:53:59] <UmbralRaptor> Error: Unable to find URL to redirect to.
L172[09:54:00] <UmbralRaptor> gah
L173[09:54:12] * UmbralRaptor ?? ??
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L176[09:54:36] <Deddly> UmbralRaptor, So the link fails for you? Interesting
L177[09:54:39] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptor: copy-pasta fail?
L178[09:54:57] <Truga> Error: Unable to find URL to redirect to.
L179[09:55:01] <Deddly> OK hold on
L180[09:55:11] <Deddly> Worked for me hmm
L181[09:55:38] <ve2dmn> broken for me too
L182[09:56:33] <UmbralRaptor> ve2dmn: yeah
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L184[09:57:29] <Deddly> Mod9000, demo
L185[09:57:32] <Mod9000> There's an old demo on steam - https://steamdb.info/app/231410
L186[09:57:54] <Deddly> Does that work better?
L187[09:59:44] <APlayer> https://i.imgur.com/lX14QCY.jpg
L188[09:59:59] <Deddly> Woohoo!
L189[10:00:08] <Deddly> Have a cookie, Mod9000
L190[10:00:24] <UmbralRaptor> kitty!
L191[10:00:28] <ve2dmn> Mod9000: version
L192[10:01:01] <ve2dmn> Deddly: what the bot?
L193[10:01:07] <Deddly> It's eggdrop
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L195[10:01:24] <ve2dmn> ha. don't know about that one
L196[10:01:38] <Deddly> eggdrop is about as old as IRC and still maintained
L197[10:01:55] <ve2dmn> not suprised
L198[10:02:55] <APlayer> "I mean, IRC too, is about as old as IRC and still maintained"
L199[10:04:29] <Deddly> :)
L200[10:04:33] <Fluburtur> https://i.imgur.com/r8Gleb5.jpg
L201[10:04:58] <Ezko> what makes irc so good is that it's easy to use while driving
L202[10:04:59] <Deddly> Fluburtur, I can see your problem there. The big end is going
L203[10:05:45] <kubi> this piece of metal is a bit tired
L204[10:05:46] <ve2dmn> Ezko: no chatting while driving
L205[10:06:02] <Deddly> Yeah Ezko, that is a really bad idea. Please don't do that
L206[10:06:07] <Fluburtur> https://imgur.com/wxvFHM8
L207[10:06:07] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/wxvFHM8.gifv
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L209[10:06:25] <ve2dmn> I know kmath is 'sopel'
L210[10:06:39] <Ezko> i do it less now since i dont have a phone with a physical qwerty keyboard anymore
L211[10:07:07] <ve2dmn> Ezko: I don't drive. This bypass the issue
L212[10:09:00] <APlayer> Ezko: Send a message for 5 seconds at 35 MPH, drive 70 m without watching the road. More than enough to hit a tree, or someone who strayed onto the road without looking at cars first
L213[10:10:15] <ve2dmn> Ezko: for the record, 35MPH is 15.6 km/s
L214[10:10:26] <APlayer> m/s, please
L215[10:10:37] <Fluburtur> https://imgur.com/tvfHRL4
L216[10:10:37] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/tvfHRL4.gifv
L217[10:10:56] <ve2dmn> I'm suprised you didn't catch the mistake
L218[10:11:22] <APlayer> 14.6, even
L219[10:11:27] <APlayer> Well, alright
L220[10:11:52] <APlayer> 35 MPH is about 50 km/h, in more road-usual numbers
L221[10:12:06] <ve2dmn> and/or 15.6 m/s
L222[10:12:19] <APlayer> 14.6 :P
L223[10:12:52] <ve2dmn> https://www.google.ca/search?q=35mph+in+m%2Fs&oq=35mph++in+m%2Fs
L224[10:13:03] <APlayer> Huh
L225[10:13:36] <ve2dmn> anyway, it means you do around 75meters in 5 sec
L226[10:13:40] <APlayer> Ah, probably because I use a factor of 1.5 for MPH/km/h conversion
L227[10:13:50] <taniwha> 1.6
L228[10:14:11] <APlayer> Rule of thumb that works well enough unless you meet nitpicky people who repeat your calculations :P
L229[10:14:25] <ve2dmn> APlayer: +1
L230[10:14:40] <taniwha> (actually, 1.609344)
L231[10:14:50] <ve2dmn> The official defintion of the mile is 1,609.344 metres
L232[10:15:03] <APlayer> Alright, point taken
L233[10:15:23] <Ezko> APlayer, ve2dmn i drive mostly during the night and its my job
L234[10:15:35] <Ezko> i've been doing this for almost 7 years
L235[10:15:39] <ve2dmn> APlayer: I use 82F=28C for temperature calculations, so I don't blame you for the mistake
L236[10:16:21] <Ezko> from F to C just remove 32, divide by 9 and times 5
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L238[10:16:23] <taniwha> Ezko: "the chances of a ship coming in are 1000 to 1! ... that'll be the one :/"
L239[10:16:34] <APlayer> Ezko: Well, it's your business, but just mind one thing - one time is enough. That it has not happened yet does not change the fact.
L240[10:17:33] <APlayer> And by doing this you endanger not only yourself, but also other people on the road who do not do this and try to stay safe
L241[10:17:55] <Ezko> thats why i dont do it when theres traffic
L242[10:18:11] <taniwha> see above comment about ships :)
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L244[10:19:08] <APlayer> As I said, it's your business - I shall not meddle in that anymore
L245[10:19:45] <ve2dmn> Neither will I. Just know that you could lose your licence here if you have your phone in your hand
L246[10:25:31] <Deddly> Everybody who texts while driving thinks they are better drivers than others and they can do it safely
L247[10:26:09] <Deddly> Fact is, no matter how good a driver you are, it simply can't be done safely.
L248[10:26:32] <Mathuin> I eagerly await self-driving cars.
L249[10:26:42] <Deddly> I suppose it could be done reasonably safely if you're in a Tesla on autopilot, but even then it's not safe
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L251[10:27:01] <Mathuin> It's only safe for passengers. With proper self-driving cars, we're all passengers.
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L253[10:27:17] <Deddly> Mathuin, me too. I do love driving, but sometimes it would be nice to sleep on the journey
L254[10:27:36] <ve2dmn> Mathuin: And it means my back-seat driver's licence might be null and void :/
L255[10:27:56] <Mathuin> Nah, it just means you get to complain about the software from the front seat. :-)
L256[10:28:02] <APlayer> Why self driving cars? Why not self-flying rockets? Go big. Big Falcon Rocket-big.
L257[10:28:11] <ve2dmn> BFR?
L258[10:28:11] <Deddly> ve2dmn, nah, it just gets automatically transferred to an internet forum complaint account
L259[10:28:34] <Mathuin> self-flying rockets, nah. In this case, the smaller the better.
L260[10:28:51] <Mathuin> One-seater take me where I need to go and go park in a giant garage, awesome.
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L262[10:29:15] <Deddly> The Tesla/Falcon Heavy has so far achieved 184.5 MPG
L263[10:30:01] <APlayer> What's an average number for cars?
L264[10:30:02] <Deddly> That's 1.27 litres/100km
L265[10:30:08] <APlayer> Alright
L266[10:30:27] <Deddly> Average is probably about 7 litres/100 km
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L268[10:30:43] <Mathuin> We get about 30 MPG in our Kia, so not bad.
L269[10:30:47] <Deddly> I think this makes it the most fuel-efficient car in existence
L270[10:30:54] <APlayer> I was confused by the MPG unit, but 1.27L/100km is rather efficient
L271[10:31:09] <APlayer> Deddly: Not quite
L272[10:31:15] <Deddly> Oh?
L273[10:31:21] <APlayer> There are some with 0l/100km
L274[10:31:35] <Deddly> APlayer, in real life, though?
L275[10:31:36] <APlayer> They use a few Ah/100km, though
L276[10:32:14] <Deddly> APlayer, fuel efficiency figures for hybrids are meaningless because they start the cycle with a full battery and end with an empty one
L277[10:32:37] <APlayer> The Tesla, in fact, has siblings that are more efficient than it ;-)
L278[10:32:43] <Deddly> Give it a bigger battery and the fuel efficiency will actually be 0L/100km
L279[10:34:01] <APlayer> The Tesla has big enough a battery, I'd wager to say
L280[10:34:06] <Deddly> APlayer, ah, this is true, except I did say "fuel efficiency". A car that doesn't use fuel is surely not in the same class ;)
L281[10:35:15] <Deddly> Another fun fact is that this particular car has travelled 3.8 million km and it's still no-where near the record for longest-travelled car
L282[10:35:51] <Deddly> Definitely is the fastest, though
L283[10:36:14] <Ezko> ghe car i'm driving has travelled 390000 km
L284[10:37:02] <APlayer> I'd say it's already pretty close to the record, and will hold it for quite some time after breaking it soon
L285[10:38:29] <APlayer> https://i.imgur.com/UhqWLH1.gifv
L286[10:43:16] <Truga> nice
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L289[10:44:51] <Deddly> APlayer, that freaked me out for a moment there
L290[10:44:58] <APlayer> Me too
L291[10:45:18] <APlayer> I was totally convinced it kept zooming in for at least ten or so iterations
L292[10:46:13] <halcyon_b> For a minute, it reminded me of the scene in Contact when Hadden is zooming in on the second Machine - I thought we were going to get something good
L293[10:47:32] <Deddly> APlayer, https://media.giphy.com/media/26CaL75EXGMsOx0yI/giphy.gif
L294[10:48:44] <APlayer> This is more fascinating than I think it should be
L295[10:49:38] <ve2dmn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_per_gallon_gasoline_equivalent
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L297[10:50:35] <Deddly> aaaaaaaaah https://media.giphy.com/media/l0JMrPWRQkTeg3jjO/giphy.gif
L298[10:52:00] <Deddly> https://media.giphy.com/media/P2uM6DuCQqHQc/giphy.gif
L299[10:52:14] <ve2dmn> I wish I could get an electric car...
L300[10:52:20] <Fluburtur> https://i.imgur.com/aRJx2Eu.gifv
L301[10:52:29] <ve2dmn> ... but I can't get a charger installed
L302[10:52:59] <umaxtu> don't own your house?
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L306[10:56:09] <umaxtu> I can't get an electric car a) I'm broke b) I can only park on the side of the street opposite my house.
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L310[10:59:27] <Fluburtur> Rokker https://imgur.com/opDBZvl
L311[10:59:27] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/opDBZvl.gifv
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L313[10:59:42] <halcyon_b> Allegedly, Tesla is looking to build an electric truck. I think that'll be my first electric foray, assuming it's priced reasonably
L314[11:00:09] <umaxtu> the pickup right? not the semi
L315[11:00:16] <halcyon_b> Yeah, that's the one
L316[11:02:29] <ve2dmn> Toyota is also working on a semi with an electric motor
L317[11:02:31] <halcyon_b> I mean, I'd go with any electric pickup, but I imagine most of the American brands will be pretty bloated, and I would really just need something with moderate towing capacity and a decent bed
L318[11:02:41] <ve2dmn> (but it uses hydrogen as a battery)
L319[11:03:36] <ve2dmn> umaxtu: I own my condo, but we have 6 parking space for 8 units... I'm one of the unlucky fews
L320[11:04:11] <Deddly> Which country, ve2dmn? US?
L321[11:04:13] <umaxtu> park on the lawn.
L322[11:04:24] <ve2dmn> So I park my smart on the side of the road... which means I have to move it at least twice a week
L323[11:04:29] <ve2dmn> Deddly: CA
L324[11:04:53] <ve2dmn> umaxtu: we don't have any lawn
L325[11:05:48] <Deddly> I think street charging is the biggest issue for adoption of electric cars in many places
L326[11:06:33] <ve2dmn> Deddly: there are a few charging station close to my house
L327[11:06:51] <Deddly> There are options, though. Apparently, they are turning street lamps into charging stations in London
L328[11:06:53] <ve2dmn> plus, if you have an electric car, there is reserved parking space next to those chargers
L329[11:07:36] <ve2dmn> And our electricity is super-extra cheap
L330[11:07:42] <ve2dmn> I think only Iceland is cheaper
L331[11:09:45] <ve2dmn> Right now that is a minor problem: Bitcoin mining company are trying to settle here and are asking for an a power uplink around 100MW each
L332[11:10:33] <ve2dmn> (also a miner problem)
L333[11:10:47] <Deddly> Ba-dum-tish
L334[11:11:57] <ve2dmn> We pay the highest income taxes in North America... but at least our power is extra cheap
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L343[11:37:59] <Althego> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399309813713993730/415160916838187009/DWQyg8yWAAEEXnb.png
L344[11:38:17] <Fluburtur> uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
L345[11:38:45] <UmbralRaptor> Okay, that's clever.
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L353[11:57:53] <APlayer> https://i.imgur.com/ONGA4Fn.jpg
L354[11:58:40] <UmbralRaptor> Nice
L355[11:59:30] <Althego> hehe
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L357[12:08:41] <kevlarballoons> please clap
L358[12:08:53] <Althego> wasnt that jeb bush
L359[12:08:54] <Althego> ?
L360[12:08:57] <kevlarballoons> yea
L361[12:09:04] <kevlarballoons> but my science jr just blew up and i still survived
L362[12:09:10] <kevlarballoons> even without a heat shield at 3k
L363[12:09:33] <kevlarballoons> using pro strats like hold E
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L365[12:15:44] <Mathuin> Hopefully you got the science out of it before reentry!
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L368[12:20:42] <ve2dmn> APlayer: that screen is wrong!
L369[12:20:54] <RandomJeb> this reminds me of the good old days of fiddling with the periapsis and eccentricity to find that perfect trajectory to bring a mk1 pod back to kerbin without heatshields, but with deadly re-entry and FAR
L370[12:25:46] <Draconiator> Heh
L371[12:26:42] <Draconiator> If you're carful you don't need heat shields to land on Duna...unless you're landing directly and not circularizing first.
L372[12:27:17] <kevlarballoons> how do you put elevators on swept wings lol
L373[12:27:27] <RandomJeb> my duna heatshields tend to be thrusters, if I suspect something important will burn off I'll do multiple passes :P
L374[12:27:58] <RandomJeb> kevlarballoons you turn off snap to and then rotate them appropriately once you've found the rear edge of the wing
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L376[12:31:24] <Aaodon> Hello
L377[12:31:27] <Mod9000> Hello, Aaodon
L378[12:31:53] <Deddly> Hey there Aaodon
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L380[12:31:58] <JCB> bleh..
L381[12:31:59] <ve2dmn> bye
L382[12:32:07] <Deddly> Huh
L383[12:32:18] <Deddly> Web chat problems maybe?
L384[12:32:20] <ve2dmn> At least he said something
L385[12:32:37] <Deddly> Yeah and at least we got TWO greetings in before he went
L386[12:32:58] <JCB> gotta remember I'm still logged here... sometimes. ugh..
L387[12:33:58] <UmbralRaptor> JCB: the dangers of having someone run a bouncer for you?
L388[12:34:17] <kevlarballoons> ayy i landed at the island airport
L389[12:34:23] <Mathuin> Grats!
L390[12:34:45] <Deddly> Well done, kevlarballoons
L391[12:35:01] <ve2dmn> kevlarballoons: now climb the stairs and take a screenshot!
L392[12:35:46] <JCB> UmbralRaptor no.. I keep getting pulled away onto other things. Then neglect I'm here..
L393[12:36:02] <ve2dmn> kevlarballoons: here is a celebration in your honour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1Ebt4q5ipU
L394[12:36:02] <kmath> YouTube - Chrono Trigger - Guardia Millennial Fair ft. Stringees (Violin/Fiddle/Orchestral Cover/Remix) || SPG
L395[12:36:09] <JCB> I dropped my browser, only to realize someone tried to send me something here im PM.. and it got wiped before I could read
L396[12:36:21] <kevlarballoons> it was with a mk2 plane too
L397[12:36:41] <kevlarballoons> and this plane has sideslip
L398[12:36:42] <UmbralRaptor> owch
L399[12:36:44] <kevlarballoons> so much sideslip
L400[12:37:50] <Deddly> JCB, can I recommend something like Hex Chat instead of browser?
L401[12:38:14] * JCB fires up KSP... got this one cool plane he made, problem is, it wants to just fly waaaay to fast, even at very low throttle. Its only two engines too. :\
L402[12:38:32] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/3781795fc711efb8a355a0f537f17f51/tumblr_p2oyquRq2q1tlb56zo1_400.gif
L403[12:38:44] <JCB> Deddly I have mIRC.. older version. Its on the other pc.. just not got the mind to get it moved over.
L404[12:39:00] <Deddly> Ah OK
L405[12:39:28] <RandomJeb> I had a fighter plane once that was ridiculously overpowered, I tried to get bahamut's weapons mod to fly it but it only managed 20 seconds of flight before it twisted the wings off <_<
L406[12:40:35] <kevlarballoons> i need more control authority
L407[12:42:11] <Mathuin> JCB: I have one of those, I actually turn off the center of three turbofans to fly it.
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L409[12:42:19] <Fluburtur> I had fun with WWII jets and DMP lately
L410[12:42:24] <Fluburtur> yak 15 and salamander
L411[12:42:26] <JCB> I used the panther engines on mine... it at least give me ability to 'power down' the engines..
L412[12:43:09] <Fluburtur> I wish the whiplash had an option for that too
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L414[12:44:10] <JCB> panther can because of afterburners.. whiplash doesn't have that... sorta modeled after a version of Turbo Jet engine
L415[12:44:16] <kevlarballoons> my plane keeps bouncing
L416[12:44:28] <kevlarballoons> so i basically wrecked it trying to go around
L417[12:44:29] <Fluburtur> it's supposed to be the same engine as the sr71
L418[12:44:43] <Fluburtur> and the sr71 isn't always on afterburners
L419[12:44:48] <Fluburtur> what plane?
L420[12:44:52] <Fluburtur> pics?
L421[12:45:23] <RandomJeb> then again most of my fighter-bombers are too OP to let some autopilot thingy fly them, designed to do bombing runs at well over mach 1 at altitudes under 1km, autopilots are really good at shredding aircraft under those conditions
L422[12:45:40] <JCB> I originally thought the SR-71 engines were sorta of like scramjet engines...
L423[12:46:07] <JCB> but then I wondered how it would even takeoff, since scrams need to be at high mach speed to just run
L424[12:46:09] <Fluburtur> it's a mix between regular turbofan and statoreactor
L425[12:46:30] <JCB> ya saw the youtube on it, has set of tubes that goes around part of the engine in a way
L426[12:46:52] <JCB> they lost a few planes due to issues with the intake control system
L427[12:47:24] <ve2dmn> isn't that the plane that self-destruct during one of the test run just by turning too hard?
L428[12:47:47] <kevlarballoons> lmao theres no way to land this
L429[12:48:08] <Mathuin> Chutes!
L430[12:48:30] <RandomJeb> RealChutes set to trigger on touchdown
L431[12:49:08] <JCB> ve2dmn they tried to launch a drone plane from the back of an SR-71... instead the drone ended up bobbing up then straight down into the middle of the blackbird, broke it in half mid hyperflight
L432[12:49:24] <RandomJeb> ouch
L433[12:49:43] <ve2dmn> one of the pilot survived
L434[12:50:14] <Draconiator> um, I think some discarded boosters destroyed the launch pad rofl
L435[12:50:37] <RandomJeb> tfw you destroy the launch pad
L436[12:51:28] <Deddly> Maths is useful in KSP but it can be hard. I've never heard it so well explained as in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6OaYPVueW4
L437[12:51:28] <kmath> YouTube - Tom Lehrer: New Math (concert live) (1965)
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L439[12:55:05] <Fluburtur> kevlarballoons I was doing some testing and my yak 15 can easily reach 6km
L440[12:55:14] <Fluburtur> so you can probably push it to 9
L441[12:56:19] <JCB> My Velocity: https://imgur.com/a/FaqX2
L442[12:56:19] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/vbpivFb.jpg
L443[12:56:31] <JCB> oh..lol.. that address word
L444[12:56:36] <Fluburtur> EZ
L445[12:56:45] <Fluburtur> most of my planes can fly at least that fast
L446[12:56:54] <Fluburtur> but the bda autopilot doesn't go over 800m/s
L447[12:57:26] <JCB> heh...
L448[12:57:33] <Fluburtur> too bad
L449[12:57:45] <JCB> I could use the whiplash... thing would just explode before I could get it up to height
L450[12:57:49] <Fluburtur> I have some sort of f104 replica that nees to go super fast to work
L451[12:58:04] <JCB> did a version or two of the f104 myself..
L452[12:58:19] <JCB> also a couple f-18s, a mini version of the F-15 I called the Eaglette
L453[12:58:34] <Draconiator> Heh a happy accident just happenned...I forgot to put the fairing base ring before the decoupler, so it's stuck to the engine...looks so good though and it doesn't affect the engine performance.
L454[12:58:38] <JCB> stupid thing about the one f-18... 3 drop tanks, flies a bit slow
L455[12:58:41] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/413109312802521098/415220631957667840/Sans_titre_2.png
L456[12:59:26] <Fluburtur> kevlarballoons yeah I reached 9km of altitude with the yak 15
L457[12:59:35] <Fluburtur> only took 11 minutes of flying
L458[13:00:35] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/413109312802521098/415221120875102227/20180219195911_1.jpg
L459[13:01:08] <Fluburtur> I thinkt he operational ceiling is 9500m for this one
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L462[13:02:27] <RandomJeb> I did an F-15 replica once, very true to the original, but then I managed to turn it into a space plane with RAPIERs, just barely making it to LKO with a touch of oxidizer left to deorbit with
L463[13:02:36] <JCB> juno engines huh? I've done little passenger planes using those... mostly dual engine or 3 with one in the tail
L464[13:03:00] <Fluburtur> I've been having a lot of fun witht he juno
L465[13:03:06] <Fluburtur> not overpowered like most other engines
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L467[13:05:30] <JCB> lol... pair of whiezers on a small plane... sorta did a couple of learjet styled crafts
L468[13:05:50] <JCB> or something like the Challenger or regional jet type craft
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L472[13:10:07] <Draconiator> oh wow if I don't slow down Ike will send me near 90* straight into Duna.
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L474[13:12:56] <JCB> oh heh..
L475[13:13:06] <JCB> didn't think it could pull you around /that/ much.. being low grav and all
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L477[13:15:56] <JCB> look'n at my f-104.. well ok not true to life, did had to take some liberties with the tail secion.. H-stab sits lower..
L478[13:17:20] <Althego> base 8? it shouldnt be that hard
L479[13:18:52] <JCB> huh.. you figured two engines would do better than one... f-104 is a little heavier but seems to manage up to nearly same speed and alt as my other twin egine jet
L480[13:18:54] <Althego> (in the video above)
L481[13:20:39] <JCB> hmm.. how to race two planes in ksp..
L482[13:21:28] <Althego> best if you take off docked
L483[13:21:37] <Althego> and then never leave physics range
L484[13:21:56] <JCB> wish SAS had a surface mode
L485[13:22:17] <JCB> hold pitch based on surface than stars
L486[13:23:21] <JCB> F-104.. ish... https://imgur.com/a/DhwgS
L487[13:23:21] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/3vFvBFs.jpg
L488[13:24:25] <JCB> seeing how much fuel will be left from full on afterburn to north pole..
L489[13:25:34] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/3ed90d8c0b56d04bf3b83f857edcbe6f.png - Landed a BIT too hard, but no damage.
L490[13:25:56] <JCB> Draconiator reminds me of some kinda droppod
L491[13:28:36] <JCB> Hmm....
L492[13:28:54] <JCB> think I'll turbo up that other jet.. see how bad it is.
L493[13:35:42] <JCB> welp... didn't blow up.. but do kind of wish I had thermal tiles for the cockpit...
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L500[13:53:19] <mib_008pne> Hello?
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L502[13:55:28] <Deddly> Hello goodbye
L503[13:57:04] <Althego> heh
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L505[14:06:59] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLK5W_ovTJ4
L506[14:06:59] <kmath> YouTube - Top 10 Weirdest TV Game Shows
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L510[14:33:25] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr87Z7rZiWE
L511[14:33:26] <kmath> YouTube - Bohemian Rhapsody (Queen) on Harpejji G16 by Mathieu Terrade.
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L515[15:05:41] <GuestBanana> hello all
L516[15:09:38] <CP44> hi hi
L517[15:15:06] <ve2dmn> Greeting GuestRadiationDoseEquivalent!
L518[15:17:59] <Althego> hehe, spacex rockets must have been fake because they were white when going up and brown-black when they came down
L519[15:18:16] <Althego> at least some of these people have to be trolls
L520[15:18:28] <Althego> not possible to be this stupid
L521[15:18:36] <Althego> otherwise they would be dead
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L524[15:27:11] <tawny-> Rocket goes up, rocket comes down. never a miscommunication there. You can't explain that.
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L528[15:42:14] <ve2dmn> tawny-: sure I can: magic
L529[15:42:22] *** tawny- is now known as tawny
L530[15:42:29] <tawny> haha
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L533[15:49:02] <ve2dmn> tawny: well, any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
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L536[15:54:09] <ve2dmn> I know Althego left but there is an intesting study made about 'The Unpersuadables'
L537[15:54:19] <ve2dmn> (sauce : https://youarenotsosmart.com/2018/01/29/5754/ )
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L542[16:21:24] <RhineBTV> hey
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L544[16:22:00] <RhineBTV> starting a new career and got a bunch of mods installed, but it seems the left side bar when changing options is like obscuring the save/exit button or something
L545[16:22:13] <RhineBTV> I'm like stuck with this window open, is there a way to save via a key?
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L547[16:22:52] <ve2dmn> RhineBTV: ALT-F5
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L551[16:25:10] <RhineBTV> that's not doing anything, one sec
L552[16:25:24] <ve2dmn> then I don't understand the question.... screenshot?
L553[16:26:16] <RhineBTV> https://imgur.com/a/FymB2
L554[16:26:16] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/rlfvlHR.png
L555[16:28:35] <ve2dmn> ho... wow
L556[16:29:53] <RhineBTV> yeah
L557[16:30:29] <UmbralRaptor> Turn your monitor vertical? (Alternatively, I wonder if this is a case of a mod related bug worth contacting Squad about)
L558[16:30:40] <ve2dmn> I think you have too many mods installed... or you will have to change resolution
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L560[16:33:30] <RhineBTV> gonna try vertical monitor, but this is fun
L561[16:33:45] <RhineBTV> gotta reboot the game anyway, it was cutting it off where it previously ended
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L563[16:35:15] <RhineBTV> also, I scoff at "too many mods instlled"
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L574[17:25:28] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugyqOSUlR2A - Annnnnd then we have this guy.
L575[17:25:28] <kmath> YouTube - Why Water is NOT Wet - With PROOF
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L577[17:28:15] <RhineBTV> there, at least I got a career started
L578[17:28:17] <ConductorCat> Better than with FOOF.
L579[17:28:33] <RhineBTV> just uninstalled the mods that were like only giving me toolbar options and that I didn't need to change anything and then reinstalled em
L580[17:28:37] <RhineBTV> that was weird though
L581[17:29:18] <RhineBTV> the accept/cancel button came back when the scroll bar wasn't necessary, idk
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L585[17:46:37] <Draconiator> So I checked on Steam and i'm all set to get the Making History expansion :)
L586[17:48:16] <ve2dmn> RhineBTV: there is no wrong way to play. Too many mods is just an observation, not a jugement
L587[17:49:25] <Draconiator> Well, unless your computer decides to crash while loading.
L588[17:50:25] <ve2dmn> then you need a better computer.... or better OS
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L591[17:55:04] <Vooloo> I am trying to copy a subassembly between two saves, but it does not show up in the other
L592[17:58:19] <RhineBTV> oh, I'm not worried, I knew you were talking about the bar being an issue
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L596[18:08:06] <ve2dmn> Well... I'm gonna try docking 3 docking ports at the same time
L597[18:09:09] <ve2dmn> ...in the dark :/
L598[18:11:33] <ve2dmn> On the dark side of the mun
L599[18:12:57] <Ezko> docking eh
L600[18:12:58] <Ezko> in the dark
L601[18:13:16] <ve2dmn> see for yourself: http://steamcommunity.com/broadcast/watch/76561197994451548/
L602[18:14:44] <Ezko> nah
L603[18:14:52] <ve2dmn> I wish I could write kOS scripts for that
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L605[18:18:13] <ve2dmn> managed to dock 2 out of 3...
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L610[18:35:04] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: The Space Core is your friend. Trust the Core.
L611[18:35:43] <ve2dmn> I prefer to trust the ARM rather then the Core
L612[18:36:10] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: Patterning is for your protection, citizen.
L613[18:36:20] <ve2dmn> NEVER
L614[18:36:33] <Scolar_Visari> I mean, who WOULDN'T want to have their mind uploaded into the chassis of a Krogoth?
L615[18:36:57] <ve2dmn> You have a point
L616[18:37:51] <Scolar_Visari> Yes, you may be unable to fit in a transporter, but that's a small price to pay for completing the TOTAL ANNIHILATION of the ARM rebels.
L617[18:38:26] <Scolar_Visari> Just don't use one on an island map and you'll be find.
L618[18:38:32] <ve2dmn> Back when Boneyard was a thing, I remember the ARM conquering Core Prime :D
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L620[18:39:50] <Scolar_Visari> Nonsense. The Core won the war eons ago. You're simply living in a simulation on Core Prime at this very moment.
L621[18:40:11] <ve2dmn> That's waht they want YOU to think
L622[18:40:21] * Scolar_Visari grumbles something about the Cybran at least being depicted as the most sympathetic faction in TA's spiritual successor.
L623[18:41:25] <ve2dmn> Walking boats of utter destructions
L624[18:41:26] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: I'm afraid I can only think what they programmed me to think, and that's mostly Babylon 5 references.
L625[18:42:05] <Scolar_Visari> It was the only science-fiction franchise of the 90's to survive the Great Television Blackout of 2018.
L626[18:42:25] <ve2dmn> I stopped watching TV around 2000
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L628[18:43:54] <Scolar_Visari> You didn't miss anything for a decade. There was a frustrating drama about people on an island who were actually dead, which was only really notable in that it starred Ambassador Delenn as a human being in a breakout role for an alien in Earth programming.
L629[18:45:04] <ve2dmn> I understood some of those words
L630[18:45:27] <Scolar_Visari> Google translate is having problems with my Narn.
L631[18:45:48] <ve2dmn> I also missed Breaking Bad
L632[18:46:05] <Scolar_Visari> You Better Call Saul, than.
L633[18:48:23] <ve2dmn> They were all dead? A tiny bit better then 'it was just a dream' finale
L634[18:49:07] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: Instead of it just being a dream in the finale, it was a dream for the entire series
L635[18:49:50] * Scolar_Visari also grumbles at Ringworld getting a series.
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L637[18:54:19] <Scolar_Visari> Why not The Mote In God's Eye or Rendezvous with Rama?
L638[18:54:42] <RhineBTV> anyone around that uses SVT?
L639[18:56:29] <RhineBTV> I want to use it, but not a fan of the green it turns the KSC grass
L640[18:56:46] <Scolar_Visari> Hurray new space settlement art! https://faylar001.deviantart.com/art/Oneil-Scene-728510453
L641[18:58:43] * UmbralRaptor wonders if Scolar_Visari has seen Glushko's tie fighter https://twitter.com/runnymonkey/status/951144568497623040
L642[18:58:44] <kmath> <runnymonkey> Early test of a basic mesh for the Glushko Solar Thermal Rocket, Which uses solar power to vapourise metal wire or… https://t.co/l3NMIpeU48
L643[19:00:16] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptor: Mercury propellant!? Thats not ISRU friendly!
L644[19:04:19] <Scolar_Visari> Though using metals from reprocessed satellites . . .
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L646[19:06:35] <RhineBTV> alright, almost got all my mods and windows and all that fun stuff set up
L647[19:06:54] <RhineBTV> I reinstalled the game about 6 hours ago, I might get to launch something soon
L648[19:08:17] <ConductorCat> :3
L649[19:08:37] <ConductorCat> When is KSP getting an anime?
L650[19:08:49] * Scolar_Visari drools http://multiplaga.com/c/gaming-man-cave-within-exquisite-gaming-mancave-elite-dangerous-four-tablets-for-controls-on-elegant-gaming-man-cave.jpg
L651[19:09:01] <ConductorCat> Kawaii Space Program
L652[19:09:16] <Scolar_Visari> ConductorCat: Never. It will in the far future, however, get a CGI television series in the style of Reboot and Beast Wars.
L653[19:10:09] <RhineBTV> reboot was amazing
L654[19:10:25] <RhineBTV> didn't they remake that or are going to or something
L655[19:10:41] <ve2dmn> cancelled last I heard
L656[19:10:52] <ve2dmn> But it was alphanumeric!
L657[19:10:55] <RhineBTV> probably for the better
L658[19:11:18] <Scolar_Visari> RhineBTV: Any remake would have to incorporate great levels of gore and violence to scale with modern computer games.
L659[19:11:37] <Scolar_Visari> And feature nods to the the cheating, poorly designed AI pandemic to modern titles.
L660[19:11:40] <ve2dmn> according to the premise I heard it sounded more like "Super human Samurai Cyber Squad" then Reboot
L661[19:11:53] <RhineBTV> gotta wonder how many episodes they'd get before they got put in a minecraft game
L662[19:12:03] <RhineBTV> jump the shark on episode 3
L663[19:12:09] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm . . . https://i.redd.it/i2eojk1id5wy.jpg
L664[19:12:43] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: That wouldn't be so bad. Tim Curry was in that.
L665[19:17:05] * Scolar_Visari ponders how many people could live comfortably inside the large torii of an Orbis starport.
L666[19:17:07] <Scolar_Visari> http://www.elitegalaxy.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Eap0ESR.jpg
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L671[19:23:58] <ve2dmn> ConductorCat: Kawaii Space https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-illustration-kawaii-space-card-doodles-pretty-facial-expression-illustration-cartoon-sun-earth-moon-rocket-celestial-bodies-image71843618
L672[19:25:34] <ConductorCat> A Reboot reboot, you say.
L673[19:25:52] <ve2dmn> ConductorCat: I even found this: http://orig10.deviantart.net/e3b4/f/2013/113/e/c/postcards_from_laythe___edited_by_valhalla_studios-d5ziqj3.png
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L683[19:49:36] <Vooloo> How do you navigate the cam with a very big vessel? I am trying to click on a specific part but it is outside the camera angle
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L691[20:45:38] <RhineBTV> I like how kas/kis added the kerbals having stuff on the main screen
L692[20:45:44] <RhineBTV> that's pretty fun
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L698[21:16:53] <taniwha> RhineBTV: val is explosive :)
L699[21:17:08] <RhineBTV> yeah, I saw that
L700[21:17:13] <RhineBTV> even though I've never used the part, I recognized it
L701[21:17:51] <RhineBTV> also, if anyone feels like telling the guy who made science alert (I don't have a forum account), you can brute force eva reports before upgrading the astronaut complex
L702[21:18:05] <RhineBTV> the button forced jeb out of the pod and I could get back in no problem
L703[21:18:43] <taniwha> make an account
L704[21:24:44] <taniwha> sure, for one issue it might not make much sense, but I'm sure other issues will come up
L705[21:33:27] <RhineBTV> yeah, I know, it's just not that big of a deal
L706[21:33:44] <taniwha> for others, it may be
L707[21:33:56] <taniwha> so you'll actually be helping others
L708[21:34:20] <RhineBTV> yeah, I know, I've just been playing for like 6 years and never posted once
L709[21:34:42] <taniwha> 6 years of missed opportunities ;)
L710[21:41:33] <RhineBTV> trying to figure out how to fix this, with the critical temperature gauge mod thing: https://imgur.com/a/f2wgx
L711[21:41:34] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/dYSU2XJ.jpg
L712[21:41:42] <RhineBTV> in before I get told I can ask on the forums
L713[21:42:03] <RhineBTV> I think I'm just gonna uninstall it and use the kerbal engineer temp thing, it's good enough
L714[21:42:20] <taniwha> get out of the sun :)
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L716[21:43:04] <RhineBTV> yeah but I should be able to hide it for kerbals, it's based on a percent threshold
L717[21:43:07] <RhineBTV> it's super annoying
L718[21:43:34] <RhineBTV> on reentry with the show threshold set at 70% it never showed up for the heatshield
L719[21:43:56] <taniwha> heat shield max temp is pretty high
L720[21:44:28] <RhineBTV> also, I see the contract for exploring the mun is still not guaranteed
L721[21:44:33] <RhineBTV> that's fun
L722[21:44:59] <RhineBTV> got minmus first
L723[21:45:12] <taniwha> minmus is easier anyway
L724[21:45:29] <RhineBTV> yeah, it's just annoying because I'm kind of a completionist
L725[21:45:41] <RhineBTV> and I don't think it's ever showed up for me if I get minmus first
L726[21:46:02] <taniwha> the "explore" contracts are now piecemeal anyway
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L728[21:46:09] <taniwha> the big ones are gone
L729[21:46:43] <taniwha> so now you'll get (eg) explore kerbin, explore mun, explore kerbin, ...
L730[21:46:58] <taniwha> with different progressive activities
L731[21:47:10] <taniwha> (eg, flyby, dock, rendezvous, etc)
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L734[22:24:42] <GlassFragments> https://twitter.com/funfunfunfunhe/status/926130226278449152
L735[22:24:42] <kmath> <funfunfunfunhe> panda:“WTF?????” https://t.co/jwLOh4a2Zr
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L737[22:35:02] <RhineBTV> well, I did one successful orbit, so that means spending like the next 2 hours messing with toolbars and hud stuff and the next two days messing with mods and part trimming
L738[22:35:09] <RhineBTV> and then I'll land on the mun
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L742[23:08:54] <Draconiator> wow, I have TONS of junk in my computer.
L743[23:16:26] <GlassFragments> Draconiator, on top of two nearly full hard drives there is a nice stack of physical items on my PC case as well
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L746[23:22:37] <transitbiker> i landed a thing on minmus
L747[23:24:03] <transitbiker> sadly, after i docked a replacement engine+tank to get it from kerbin orbit to mun after the original exploded on ascent, i jettisoned it with a decoupler, so minmus was my only option
L748[23:24:19] <transitbiker> was an accident -sobs-
L749[23:25:16] <transitbiker> i've also decided to reconfigure all fo my craft to have relays so i can control them anywhere
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L752[23:26:25] <transitbiker> and, after snagging an asteroid.. in the process of doing a burn to get its orbit in lign with kerbin, the claw broke off x-x
L753[23:26:43] <transitbiker> thinking i might do a multi-claw configuration for the revised craft
L754[23:26:46] <Draconiator> lol oops
L755[23:27:04] <transitbiker> mhm
L756[23:35:23] <transitbiker> i kinda like stepping away now and again from ksp for a week or a few weeks, come back with fresh ideas
L757[23:35:49] <transitbiker> one idea that i'm working on is satellites you can dock with and bring back
L758[23:37:23] <Draconiator> Yeah I'm the same way. KAP wears out after a bit so I take a break from it and come back later.
L759[23:37:59] <transitbiker> also continue to develop small to medium size passenger planes - i would like to have a whole fleet of craft with various capabilities which share some continuity in design, just like a aircraft manufacturing company
L760[23:38:21] <transitbiker> mhm
L761[23:39:04] <transitbiker> my only real thing is i'm not very good at rocket launches, making them all turn at the same time, same inclination etc
L762[23:39:29] <transitbiker> so it makes some things really frustrating
L763[23:40:33] <transitbiker> also, my one big area of struggle is i very often go after an idea too far, and the craft ends up like the asteroid harvester, works better in concept than built in game
L764[23:41:23] <transitbiker> there is such a thing as wanting too much from a craft, especially with only stock vanilla parts
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L767[23:47:55] <transitbiker> working right now with a single engine occluded goliath based design - i think i'm going to develop something crazy using the concepts from this testbed
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L769[23:52:53] <transitbiker> CFIT -.-
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L771[23:56:35] <Althego> this is agent d. succesfully neutralized the security measures and infiltrated the target
L772[23:57:14] <Althego> i could get inside the office, the faulty cardreader has been fixed since yesterday
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