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L1[00:05:25] <Einarr> Hmm...Anyone know how
much things are given to burning up on Laythe entry from LLO?
L2[00:06:57] * Einarr
is considering removing the hastily placed heatshields from the
bottom of the outboard fuel tanks for his remote
miner.
L3[00:08:10] <Einarr> They add mass,
lowering total dV, and won't protect everything (some radiators and
drills unprotected)
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L8[00:21:44] <Althego> hah there is
snow
L9[00:21:56] <Althego> only few cm
L10[00:23:52] <Kalpa> Hah, there is
negative centigrade temperature
L11[00:24:06] <Kalpa> Only a dozen
degrees
L12[00:26:57] <Einarr> Kalpa: Come talk to
me when it gets to -12 deg K.
L13[00:27:08] <Einarr> :P
L14[00:27:15] <Kalpa> I'm sure that would
break something
L15[00:27:25] <Kalpa> Also -12 K, not deg
K
L16[00:27:39] <Einarr> Only according to
our feeble guesses about how the universe works. :P
L17[00:28:32] <Kalpa> I'm watching the top
5 ufos video posted by draconiator earlier
L18[00:28:36] <Kalpa> Because why not
L19[00:28:42] <Einarr> Already watched
it.
L20[00:29:49] <Einarr> Dark 5 Seems to like
to insinuate that things that are 'unidentified' (particularly in
space) are likely of alien origin...
L21[00:30:28] <ConductorCat> :3
L22[00:30:51] <Kalpa> All the videos of
this category insinuate that mysterious music combined with fuzzy
photos and eerie captions are more or less proof for ufos
L24[00:36:09] <Althego> settled
L25[00:37:47] <Kalpa> How true
L26[00:38:37] <Althego> think of
chelyabinsk
L27[00:39:02] <Althego> if there was alien
activity it would be all over social media from different
angles
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L37[01:50:59] <taniwha> "viral"
would not cover it
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L52[03:51:57] <kmath> YouTube - UFO Chicken
Coop
L53[03:52:10] <Althego> slightly
related
L54[03:52:26] <Althego> ok, this
conversation died hours ago, but still
L55[03:54:51] <Althego> lol greatest
question to flat earthers: "how can there be tides if water
doesnt curve?" - greatersapien
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L57[04:01:52] <Althego> this moho thing is
harder than it looks. lot of delta v needed. not so much to get
there. but landing and coming back... now that is a lot. maybe i
need to take the isru unit after all
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L60[04:07:17] <kmath> YouTube - Toro Y Moi
"Still Sound"
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L64[04:51:46] *
Einarr drops Althego into the Mohole without enough dV or ISRUs to
get out.
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L66[04:56:17] <Althego> not going to the
mohole
L67[05:00:54] <Fluburtur> my canadair can
fly upside down with no problem
L68[05:00:57] <Fluburtur> and even prop
hang
L70[05:07:12] <Althego> not upside
down
L71[05:07:29] <Fluburtur> you will see in
the video
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L76[05:33:27] <kmath> YouTube - Warthog
A-10 R/C Jet with the characteristic Brrrr Gatling Gun Sound in
Action
L77[05:34:21] <Althego> still needs some
smoke generator for the gun
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L79[05:41:29] <Althego> no this upper stage
is too heavy to lift by my current technology
L80[05:43:55] <Althego> this means i have
to come up with some other project to do until then next node
L81[05:45:13] <Althego> does isru work
unfocused?
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L86[05:58:46] <Althego> i know, i could do
a depth record mission to the ocean
L87[05:58:51] <Althego> it pays a bit
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L96[06:47:39] <Althego> maybe i cab save
the moho mission by making it only orbiter and probe
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L98[06:53:30] <RandomJeb> sounds like you
just need more boosters
L99[06:54:12] <APlayer> Althego: What did I
miss?
L100[06:54:42] <Althego> nothing. the
planned moho mission failed in the design phase because of the lack
of big engines
L101[06:55:23] <taniwha> my resource
manager transfers resources :)
L102[06:55:36] <taniwha> goes bonkers if
symmetrical sets are unbalanced, though
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L105[06:59:10] <Stein> Hello all. Kinda
new to the game, trying to get communication going. Quick question,
with stationary antennas, does the spacecraft has to be turned so
the antenna points in the right direction?
L106[07:00:15] <Althego> no
L107[07:00:25] <Althego> you can just
assume that is working
L108[07:01:03] <Stein> thank god. I was
kinda worried for a moment there :D
L109[07:01:08] <Stein> thanks
L110[07:02:03] <Althego> with however, in
case you want to use it as a relay, you need 2 antennas, 1 for
control and 1 for relay, those are separate types. except for the
tiniest dish antenna, which can do both
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L112[07:04:25] <ve2dmn> Stein: if you want
to make a comm network makee sure to put 'relay' antenna and not
'direct' antenna
L113[07:04:30] <Stein> oh ok, so what i
had in mind was this: i wanted to send three satelites each with 3
stationary dish antennas of the smallest type (Reflectron KR-7),
one pointed towards KSC, one pointed another satelite in the
network, and one free for my spacecrafts? Is that wrong?
L114[07:04:33] <ve2dmn> I made the mistake
once
L115[07:05:27] <Stein> i cant seem to make
out a difference between antennas in that regard. Theres no infor
that sais wether its relay or direkt..
L116[07:05:29] <ve2dmn> As long as you
have 1 relay antenna, it can serve as a relay
L118[07:06:29] <ve2dmn> It says so in the
description of each part
L119[07:07:47] <Stein> ok, i dont know.
the dish i have available isnt in the wiki list, and on my version
of the game there is no information about that..
L120[07:08:24] <ve2dmn> What version do
you have?
L121[07:08:35] <ve2dmn> The demo?
L123[07:08:53] <Stein> looks like
this
L124[07:08:53] <Althego> reflectron is
relay only
L125[07:09:11] <Althego> or wait is that
stock part?
L126[07:09:13] <Stein> no i have, to my
knowledge, the current steam version
L127[07:09:15] <Gasher> mod?
L128[07:09:26] <ve2dmn> mod
L129[07:09:32] <Althego> the hg-5 is the
only one which is relay and direct
L130[07:09:32] <Stein> maybe, i have a few
mods installed that a steam guide for new players recommended
L131[07:09:45] <ve2dmn> which ones?
L132[07:10:10] <ve2dmn> that part is from
Remote Tech
L133[07:10:34] <Althego> i think for
remotetech you have to activate relay antennas, by using the menu
and tell them where to point
L135[07:10:50] <Althego> but honestly even
the stock relay building is just a tiresome work for me
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L137[07:11:22] <Gasher> a few...
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L139[07:11:33] <Stein> Yes i have seen
that i have to point them in a direction. Thats why i wanted to put
3 antennas on each sat
L140[07:12:20] <Stein> ok, so but from
what you can see, it should work with this dish antenna that i have
here?
L141[07:12:25] <ve2dmn> Stein: if you
never played the game, I would disable remote tech...
L142[07:12:36] <Stein> point one towards
ksc, one towards another sat, and one free for missions?
L143[07:12:36] <Althego> yes, it just adds
to thetrouble
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L145[07:12:42] <Althego> especially with
lightspeed limitations
L146[07:13:11] <ve2dmn> ...the game now
has a version of commnet that simulates the basic features
L147[07:13:43] <ve2dmn> The rest is mostly
visual or End-game stuff, so it's not as confusing
L148[07:13:53] <Stein> ok. So i can just
quit the game, disable the mode (deinstall it?) and load
again?
L149[07:14:39] <Althego> removing mods
during a game can have the effect that your already launched things
stop working
L150[07:14:45] <Althego> if they used a
part
L151[07:14:49] <Stein> but isnt remote
tech also that thing that provides this computer where i can point
the vessel towards prograde and so on?
L152[07:14:55] <Althego> no
L153[07:15:02] <Althego> that is stock
feature
L154[07:15:06] <Stein> ohh
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L156[07:15:13] <Althego> although mechjeb
has a far more superior version of that
L157[07:15:14] <Stein> ok, what does
remote tech actually do?
L158[07:15:16] <ve2dmn> and you have
Mechjeb...
L159[07:15:30] <Althego> remotetech adds
realism
L160[07:15:33] <Althego> for
communication
L161[07:15:34] <ve2dmn> MechJeb is
autopilot
L162[07:15:37] <Althego> so it makes the
game harder
L163[07:15:43] <ve2dmn> MUCH harder
L164[07:16:00] <Stein> remotetech makes it
harder?
L165[07:16:03] <Stein> not mechjeb?
L166[07:16:17] <Althego> rt has soem
guidance computer to counteract the effects of time delay and comm
blockout
L167[07:16:21] <ve2dmn> Mechjeb makes
everything super simple
L168[07:16:24] <Althego> rt makes it
harder
L169[07:16:29] <Stein> oh.
L170[07:16:51] <Althego> in fact i say you
shouldnt use mechjeb until you learn how things work, because it
makes everything automatic
L171[07:16:58] <ve2dmn> ^
L172[07:17:20] <Stein> so i have seen once
in a video, where someone used some scripting language to automate
a landing. I want to do that sometimes too. Do you know what mod
that is`?
L173[07:17:35] <Althego> that is kos
L174[07:17:38] <ve2dmn> I use KER for that
reason, so I'm not tempted by the click-to-orbit of Mechjeb
L175[07:17:48] <Althego> i think even ker
is overkill
L176[07:18:05] <Althego> i use it mostly
to do the delta v calculation what i can do anyway, it just makes
it faster
L177[07:18:12] <Stein> ve2dmn. Im
laucnhing manually, but for orbit things i like mechjeb
L178[07:18:26] <ve2dmn> It's your
game
L179[07:18:36] <ve2dmn> there is no wrong
way to play
L180[07:18:55] <Stein> ok, thanks guys you
helped me alot
L181[07:19:01] <taniwha> MechJeb's
click-to-orbit is not infallible
L182[07:19:15] <Stein> oh one last
thing
L183[07:19:18] <ve2dmn> taniwha: true, but
I still feel like it's cheating
L184[07:19:22] <Althego> as i say it:
mechjeb, killed more kerbals than it saved
L185[07:19:27] <Stein> can i deactivate a
mod or do i have to uninstall it?
L186[07:19:29] <taniwha> ve2dmn: try PEG
:)
L187[07:19:44] <ve2dmn> Stein: you have to
unistall it
L188[07:19:52] <taniwha> Stein: you have
to move the mod directory out of the GameData tree
L189[07:20:01] <ve2dmn> but then, the part
will be invalidated
L190[07:20:11] <ve2dmn> taniwha: the
screenshot says CKAN
L191[07:20:13] <Stein> oh right
L192[07:20:23] <Althego> i think rt
specifically has on-off settings for its feature
L193[07:20:24] <Althego> s
L194[07:20:29] <Stein> damn. can i have
the part, but not the functionality of remote tech?
L195[07:20:44] <ve2dmn> ...technically
yes.
L196[07:20:48] <taniwha> yes, some mods do
have such, but the mod is still active as far as KSP is
concerned
L197[07:21:09] <ve2dmn> But it's a lot
less trouble to just unistall the mod
L198[07:21:17] <ve2dmn> You'll lose a few
antennas, that is all
L199[07:21:37] <Stein> ok. thanks
L200[07:22:06] <Stein> to deinstall i just
uncheck the box in CKAN and apply?
L201[07:22:30] <ve2dmn> yup
L202[07:22:38] <Stein> ty
L203[07:23:39] <ve2dmn> once your are
confortable with how things work, THEN you can look into kOS or
kRPC
L204[07:24:37] <Althego> kos as a complete
scripting language, and do do anything with it, you not only need
to know the language, but some control theory and prbotal mechanics
is advised
L205[07:24:43] <Althego> *orbital
L206[07:25:17] <ve2dmn> Final advice: I
use 'KEI' in carreer mode, but I would skip that mod if you are
starting... Collect science around the KSC the old fashioned way
first :D
L207[07:25:53] <Althego> colelct science
manually if for nothing else, the science texts
L208[07:26:09] <ve2dmn> Every building is
a different biome, so there is a lot of science to acquires around
KSC
L209[07:26:13] <taniwha> ve2dmn:
KEI?
L211[07:29:32] <ve2dmn> auto-collect
science around the KSC
L212[07:29:38] <Gasher> as i learned, the
best way to collect all science from KSC biomes is to roll an
asteroid around it and collect samples form it
L213[07:30:09] <Althego> hehe
L214[07:30:17] <ve2dmn> Gasher: that
requires an asteroid
L215[07:30:34] <Gasher> a smallest one is
enough
L216[07:30:56] <ve2dmn> I havent's seen
that part in the VAB yet :P
L217[07:33:47] <ve2dmn> I like the secret
text for 'landed at jool'
L218[07:35:06] <ve2dmn> Like :
"Gravity Scan: The instrument has been crushed by the massive
gravitational forces. Science!"
L219[07:36:22] <ve2dmn> bbl
L220[07:37:28] <Althego> hehe
L221[07:37:41] <Althego> long time ago
somebody planted a flag on jool
L222[07:37:49] <Althego> there was a
video
L223[07:41:52] <GlassFragments> okay so
targeted advertising is hard but it should be possible to tell that
I'm not 60 years old
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L225[07:46:27] <Althego> the best is still
the youtube ad that was about a german gothic lolita dress
store
L226[07:46:31] <Althego> why would i need
that
L227[07:46:50] <Stein> yeah i doing
science the hard way, no worries :;D
L228[07:48:15] <Stein> eh, the arrow on
the TR 18 Stack decouplers indicate which part of the vessel gets
jetisonded? So the decoupler stais on the part of the vessel where
the arrow DOES NOT point to, correct?
L229[07:49:07] <Stein> have to say the
game, although i love it, could do a better job at explaining what
individual parts do exactly
L230[07:49:11] <Gasher> seems so
L231[07:49:29] <Gasher> also if in doubt,
just try it on starting pad
L232[07:49:32] <Stein> its important
becasue i try to deploy 3 sats at once
L233[07:49:41] <Stein> good idea
L234[07:49:50] <Stein> the fairing is
immense :D
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L236[08:01:22] <Althego> the arrow point
ti the surface hat will be cut
L237[08:01:38] <Althego> there are now
some tutorials in the game
L238[08:01:50] <Althego> but for most of
the parts you just have to discover them
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L240[08:02:48] <Guest36107> stop flipping
holy damn
L241[08:02:58] <Guest36107> how do i stop
this
L242[08:03:05] <Fluburtur> im now 21
L243[08:03:07] <Fluburtur> im old
L244[08:03:09] <Guest36107> rip
L245[08:03:12] <Guest36107> btw
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L248[08:05:11] <Althego> lol flub
L249[08:05:29] <Fluburtur> I need some
more money for the 3d printer I want
L250[08:06:23] <kevlarballoons> oof
L251[08:06:26] <kevlarballoons> 3d
printers expensive
L252[08:06:32] <kevlarballoons> but i'm
also a bum and have no money so
L253[08:06:35] <Fluburtur> I want one that
is 250
L254[08:06:40] <Fluburtur> and I have
150
L255[08:06:51] <Fluburtur> my dad should
send me money but I doubt it will be enough
L256[08:07:07] <kevlarballoons> you have a
$150 3d printer?
L257[08:07:14] <Fluburtur> no<
L258[08:07:18] <Fluburtur> I have
150€
L259[08:07:19] <kevlarballoons> oh
nvm
L260[08:07:21] <kevlarballoons> i'm stupid
lol
L261[08:07:24] <Fluburtur> kek
L262[08:07:32] <kevlarballoons> a $250 3d
printer probably can print an ant lol
L263[08:07:48] <Fluburtur> it's actually a
pretty good one
L264[08:07:53] <kevlarballoons> how big is
it
L265[08:07:55] <Althego> lol 3d printed
ant
L267[08:08:02] <Althego> or the world's
smallest open source violin
L268[08:08:07] <kevlarballoons> what is
this, a 3d printer for ants?
L269[08:08:17] <kevlarballoons> that's
$309
L270[08:08:19] <Fluburtur> it's actually a
rather large one
L271[08:08:21] <Fluburtur> is on
sales
L272[08:08:26] <Fluburtur> for around
250
L273[08:08:38] <kevlarballoons> nvm its
226
L274[08:08:42] <kevlarballoons> in
pounds
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L276[08:10:13] <Stein> so i builöd my
rocket and designed my satelites, i want to now merge my satelite
on top of my rocket, but the game doesnt let me put the two
together?
L277[08:10:20] <Stein> I dont get it
L278[08:10:29] <kevlarballoons> load the
satellite
L279[08:10:31] <kevlarballoons> wait
L280[08:10:35] <kevlarballoons> put the
rocket as a subassembly
L281[08:10:43] <kevlarballoons> and then
load the satellite and load the subassembly
L282[08:12:20] <kevlarballoons> STOP
FLIPPING
L283[08:12:32] <Stein> how to put a rocket
as a subasembly?
L284[08:12:41] <Stein> oh wait
L286[08:14:20] <Althego> i say you are
better off using the merge button in the load dialog instead of
subassembly. never used that since the merge started to work
L287[08:15:03] <Stein> but the merge
doesnt
L288[08:15:17] <Stein> it doesnt let me
put both crafts together
L289[08:15:30] <Stein> i doesnt snap ontop
each other
L291[08:15:38] <kevlarballoons>
what????
L292[08:15:42] <kevlarballoons> it didn't
count it!
L293[08:15:46] <kevlarballoons> i'm
done
L294[08:15:49] <kevlarballoons> and i
forgot to quicksave
L295[08:16:16] <kevlarballoons> alt+f12
complete contract it is
L296[08:19:10] <APlayer> What do you need
to count?
L297[08:19:19] <Althego> Stein: you have
to know that all craft files describe a tree. and you can only
attach a tree to the other by the root node. use the reroot (4)
tool
L298[08:19:59] <Althego> if you put the
bottom part, typically engine as the root, you will be able to add
it to something else
L299[08:20:22] <Althego> or in reverse,
the decoupler on top of the upper stage must be the root node of a
rocket to add it to a satellite
L300[08:26:36] <Stein> i have no clue how
this works lul. i have now the topmost poart of my rocket and the
bottom most part of my satelite set as root parts respectively.
still no snap.
L301[08:27:15] <Althego> do you see a
green ball when moving any of them?
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L303[08:27:31] <Stein> yes.
L304[08:27:36] <Stein> on top of my
rocket
L305[08:29:00] <Althego> that is an
attachment point
L306[08:29:13] <Althego> now the other
craft should have something like that too
L307[08:29:23] <Stein> but it doesnt
L308[08:29:24] <Althego> and you just put
those together
L309[08:29:48] <Stein> the other part is
also translucent
L310[08:29:53] <taniwha> merge? the loaded
vessel probably does not have a free node on its root part
L311[08:30:02] <Althego> it doesnt have
that normally if the root part is in the middle of a stack or has
only 1 attachment point
L312[08:30:05] <Stein> the root part is a
decoupler
L313[08:30:18] <Stein> hm ok.
L314[08:30:22] <Stein> ill check it
again
L315[08:30:53] <taniwha> using alt-click,
you can copy a section of the merged rocket and the clicked part
will be the root
L316[08:31:28] <Stein> hallelujah, it
worked
L317[08:31:42] <Stein> thanks
L318[08:31:55] <Althego> now this should
be explained explicitly
L319[08:32:05] <Althego> because it relies
on how the models are built in the engine
L320[08:32:10] <Althego> not really
anything you should know about
L321[08:32:15] <Althego> as a player
L322[08:36:28] <kevlarballoons> APlayer: i
had to run a test on a fairing
L323[08:36:29] <kevlarballoons> and i
did
L324[08:36:35] <kevlarballoons> but it
gave me the middle finger
L325[08:36:39] <kevlarballoons> so i
flipped it off back
L326[08:36:42] <kevlarballoons> by using
the cheats
L327[08:36:51] <Althego> there are 2 kinds
of tests
L328[08:37:01] <kevlarballoons> i right
clicked and there was no "run test"
L329[08:37:05] <kevlarballoons> so i just
shot it off
L330[08:37:12] <Althego> activate through
staging and running the test provided by the right click menu
L331[08:37:25] <kevlarballoons> well
whatever
L332[08:37:32] <kevlarballoons> that's bs
so I just gave it to myself
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L351[10:17:33] <Stein> i now have 2
satelites, working, in final orbit, but they are spaced wrong. Is
there a general approach how i can correct this?
L352[10:17:38] <Stein> 3, not 2
L353[10:18:31] <Althego> as usual, things
in lower orbit are faster, in higher orbit they are slower. so if
you want to adjust relative position you have to adjust an orbit
temporarily nd then set back the desired one
L355[10:24:11] <APlayer> Stein: Lower
periapsis (or, more efficiently, raise apoapsis) to have the
satellite move forward, or backward respectively
L356[10:25:16] <APlayer> Adjust the
periapsis/apoapsis so that the new orbital period moves the
satellite by the desired fraction of the orbit in a whole number of
orbits
L357[10:26:18] <APlayer> That is, if you
need to move by 1/4 of the orbit and the current period is 4 hours,
you want to adjust your orbit so that you move by 1 hour. A good
adjustment would be + (or -) 15 minutes, so that you reach your
goal in 4 orbits.
L358[10:28:19] <APlayer> The period can be
calculated as T = 2*Pi*sqrt(a^3 / mu), where a is the semi-major
axis and mu is the standard gravitational parameter of the body
(presumably Kerbin, and the number can be found on the Wiki)
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L363[10:48:50] <Asdew> KSP Demo download
link?
L364[10:49:03] <APlayer> You may find it
on the KSP homepage.
L365[10:49:23] <Asdew> Under
maintenance
L366[10:49:49] <APlayer> Ah, let me
see
L367[10:50:15] <APlayer> @TheKosmonaut,
@Deddly ^
L369[10:55:59] <APlayer> Asdew: I'm afraid
I can't help further. But if you wait for either TheKosmonaut or
Deddly, they probably know more than I do
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L371[11:18:48] <Althego> i cant build even
the probe version
L372[11:18:56] <Althego> maybe it could
come back on ions
L373[11:19:00] <Althego> but i dont have
that yet
L374[11:24:48] <APlayer> I just proved
myself to be dumb
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L376[11:25:32] <APlayer> I have this kOS
function for attitude control that has to be called every loop
iteration to update its controls. So I call it before the loop and
wonder why my attitude control is not working
L377[11:26:00] <APlayer> That by itself is
not stupid yet, but the fact that it took me half an hour to
realize the mistake is
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L380[11:31:02] <Alanonzander> APlayer, try
3+ hours on a program to find a missing semicolon
L381[11:31:41] <APlayer> Most compilers
report a syntax error on that?
L382[11:32:08] <Alanonzander> most, yes.
Not all, and often times it is reported in the wrong location
L383[11:32:18] <Althego> and with a stupid
message
L384[11:32:28] <Alanonzander> right
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L386[11:33:32] <Alanonzander> at least I
wasn't writing it for a smartphone, those almost never generate
error messages.
L387[11:34:30] <APlayer> Long story short,
the attitude control is still not working
L388[11:35:56] <APlayer> And we have a
cloud of rocket
L389[11:36:50] <APlayer> I just hope it
does not carpet bomb the KSC
L390[11:38:27] <APlayer> The
fairing-copter came close to hitting the SPH but missed by a few
meters. The rest impacted in the area with no harm done
L391[11:41:07] <Asdew> I'm getting more
and more disappointed at Squad
L393[11:42:13] <APlayer> Asdew: Please
have some patience. The channel operators I mentioned are not
full-time employees here and have their own family lives. They
cannot be here as a hotline
L394[11:43:15] <APlayer> We may relay you
a message if you wish to come back at another time, too
L395[11:43:40] <APlayer> Or you may PM me
your E-Mail adress and I will pass that on
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L397[11:49:30] <diveyez> I just built an
apollo 11 replica in 100 parts stock
L398[11:49:31] <diveyez> heh
L399[11:49:39] <diveyez> Does it work?
YES
L400[11:51:50] <Althego> in stock if you
try to make it look like apollo it will have way more delta v
L401[11:52:48] <APlayer> You need some
bigger system than stock
L402[11:52:54] <APlayer> Solar system,
that is
L403[11:53:15] <APlayer> Because two stage
landers could land on the Mun, then on Minmus and then return to
Kerbin
L404[11:53:23] <Althego> hehe
L405[11:55:07] <diveyez> ... Why do the
stock fairings only show half the time? lol
L406[12:00:34] <APlayer> Be back soon,
guys. See you!
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L410[12:23:45] <Asdew> Thanks it
worked
L411[12:25:21] <Deddly> Great!
L412[12:25:47] <Deddly> Asdew, be aware
that it's a demo of a very old version, but it at least gives you
an idea of what to expect
L413[12:27:24] <diveyez> very very
old
L414[12:27:30] <diveyez> I would just get
the game
L416[12:28:37] <diveyez> =0
L417[12:28:51] <diveyez> Once you have the
full up to date version, you can DMP and join the fun
L418[12:30:44] <diveyez> When they update
the game, I think I am going to work up a modpack that gives
players craft for my server, and then missions to use them
on.
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L425[12:52:26] <diveyez> The interface and
a lot of other features are exactly the same as DMP
L426[12:52:40] <diveyez> In my opinion, it
was a rip off of DMP and likely the code is the same.
L427[12:52:54] <diveyez> Im a friend of
darklight so I stick with DMP
L428[12:53:31] <Deddly> LMP was a fork of
DMP, but didn't DMP stop active development?
L429[12:54:11] <Fluburtur> dark
multiplayer?
L430[12:54:22] <Fluburtur> there is an irc
channel for that you can go ask there I guess
L431[12:54:42] <Deddly> Pretty sure it
said in the thread
L432[12:54:54] <Deddly> The owner was
practically begging people to fork it
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L434[12:55:16] <diveyez> Did the owner say
that?
L435[12:55:52] *
APlayer missed some "owner"?
L436[12:56:44] <Mathuin> Presumably Dark,
the lead dev
L437[12:57:57] <Fluburtur> last time I
talked with it was quite a while ago
L438[12:57:59] <Fluburtur> maybe a
year
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L440[12:58:13] <Fluburtur> told me he
didn't play ksp much because he was too busy with the mod
L441[13:03:33] <Mathuin> Mods are
frustrating that way. I stopped playing Minecraft for a year
because I was too into my terrain generator. :-)
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L443[13:06:05] <kevlarballoons> that
landing was unbelievably clean wow
L444[13:07:24] <Mathuin> Today we're
playing "Olympics or KSP"
L445[13:07:37] <Mathuin> (as in, your
statement could apply to either :-))
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L447[13:10:55] <kevlarballoons> lol
L448[13:11:01] <kevlarballoons> but i
actually landed on the runway
L449[13:11:03] <kevlarballoons> didnt fall
off
L450[13:11:12] <kevlarballoons> *i landed
on the grass but it wasn't the sloped part
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L452[13:13:39] <Mathuin> When I'm not
using tools, I land parallel to but well north of the "real
runway"
L453[13:14:09] <kevlarballoons> yeah
that's relatable
L454[13:14:28] <kevlarballoons> otherwise
i end up desperately rolling and pitching and hoping i don't land
on my wings
L455[13:14:33] <kevlarballoons> or
overshoot the runway completely
L456[13:15:38] <Mathuin> Yeah, there's a
lot of swearing and chute-punching when I try to land on the runway
on my own, even more so when it's unimproved.
L457[13:16:15] <APlayer> I end up being a
few meters off sideways, try to correct it and in the process I
either crash, overshoot the runway-length and land behind it, or
overshoot the runway-width and land besides it
L458[13:17:04] <APlayer> Some time ago I
stopped flying planes that had no takeoff/landing-phase capable
abort system
L459[13:17:11] <Mathuin> Worst is landing
south of the runway, because you know that bank by the SPH is gonna
get ya
L460[13:17:24] <APlayer> If things go bad,
just hit the abort button, launch 100 m up and land via
parachute
L461[13:17:30] <APlayer> Plane is dead,
but Jeb is not
L462[13:17:51] <Althego> what, even the
current basic runway is usable
L463[13:18:01] <Althego> no problem with
takeoffs or landings
L464[13:18:10] <APlayer> Mathuin: Once had
problems braking it time, stopped just before hitting the SPH and
only thanks to that very bank
L465[13:18:15] <Mathuin> The stock level 1
runway is bumpy enough I can barely take off.
L466[13:18:29] <Mathuin> I certainly can't
land, I get thrown back up into the air at an angle and that's all
she wrote.
L467[13:19:05] <APlayer> I think I pulled
off a proper clean landing once or twice or so, but I am really bad
at them
L468[13:19:55] <kevlarballoons> literally
its easier to land in the grasslands behind KSC than it is to land
on the runway
L469[13:19:58] <APlayer> 20% are crashes,
70% end up off-runway and the other 10% have various interesting
outcomes
L470[13:20:05] <kevlarballoons> so clearly
i should never be a pilot :P
L471[13:20:41] <APlayer> I shall write a
kOS plane landing auto-pilot some day
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L473[13:21:36] <kevlarballoons> i don't
use kOS because it doesn't feel fun imo
L474[13:21:55] <kevlarballoons> i don't
use automation in general because it's just kinda rocket building
simulator 2018
L475[13:22:03] <kevlarballoons>
*cough*taketwo*cough*
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L477[13:22:42] <APlayer> I enjoy it when
things go programmed-smooth, and even more so when I programmed
them :-)
L478[13:22:57] <kevlarballoons> that's the
other thing
L479[13:23:10] <kevlarballoons> if I
programmed something jebediah would die
L480[13:23:10] <Gasher> i think a version
ago or so the basic runway was like, a bumpy hovel of dirt and it
was easier to just use the field near it
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L482[13:26:44] <APlayer> kevlarballoons:
You need to tweak your script
L483[13:26:51] <APlayer> And debug it, of
course
L484[13:26:53] <kevlarballoons> lol
L485[13:26:56] <kevlarballoons> my
point:
L486[13:27:00] <kevlarballoons> i've
programmed before
L487[13:27:14] <kevlarballoons> i don't
trust the my programming with the life of a virtual astronaut
L488[13:27:41] <APlayer> We shall try it
together one day. You're missing out on the fun because you got
frustrated by a bad start ;-)
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L490[13:27:57] <kevlarballoons> i'm making
fun of my programming skills let me have my fun dammit
L491[13:28:13] <kevlarballoons> lol what
do i do
L492[13:28:26] <kevlarballoons> i have a
mk1 capsule and a crew cabin
L493[13:28:35] <kevlarballoons> but the
hatch is inaccessible
L494[13:28:41] <kevlarballoons> so how do
i get jeb back in the pilots seat
L495[13:28:55] <APlayer>
Inaccessible?
L496[13:28:57] <Mathuin> APlayer: if
you're looking for an example of a kOS landing autopilot for SPH
vessels, RAMP has one.
L497[13:29:08] <kevlarballoons> the crew
cabin is attached to the booster
L498[13:29:09] <APlayer> Mathuin: Not
currently, but thank you!
L499[13:29:18] <APlayer> I'll take note of
that
L500[13:29:27] <kevlarballoons> or do i
have to land with a scientist
L502[13:29:45] <APlayer> kevlarballoons: A
picture would be helpful
L503[13:29:55] <kevlarballoons> ok
L504[13:30:04] <kevlarballoons> HCP
L505[13:30:07] <kevlarballoons> H is a
heat shield
L506[13:30:09] <kevlarballoons> C is a
cabin
L507[13:30:12] <kevlarballoons> P is a
capsule
L508[13:30:21] <kevlarballoons> how do I
get jeb from C to P if everything is full
L509[13:30:31] <Gasher> i once managed to
make a program in kos which controlled engine to have my
flightspeed be a bit less than speed of sound for given altitude
lol
L510[13:30:40] <Gasher> kevlarballoons,
screenshot plz
L511[13:30:55] <kevlarballoons> nvm
L512[13:30:58] <kevlarballoons> i think
the scientist can fly it
L513[13:31:06] <Mathuin> kevlarballoons:
you need to get someone out of the capsule, then move someone from
the cabin to the capsule and out.
L514[13:31:06] <APlayer> kevlarballoons:
If he is inside, select the cabin and select Crew Tansfer
L515[13:31:13] <Mathuin> You can only
transfer if there's room. :-(
L516[13:31:37] <APlayer> Ah, got the issue
now
L517[13:31:47] <Gasher> kevlarballoons,
there are pods which have doors on edges and not on sides - they
need those door fuselage parts to be attached to them so that you
can exit them
L518[13:31:56] <Gasher> yeah and crew
transfer
L519[13:31:58] <APlayer> Yeah, what
Mathuin said
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L521[13:33:42] <Mathuin> Say Jeb and Bill
are in the cabin and Bob is in the capsule, and you want Jeb in the
capsule. Bob EVAs, Jeb transfers to capsule then EVAs, Bob returns
to the capsule then transfers to cabin, Jeb returns to capsule.
:-(
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L523[13:35:16] <kevlarballoons> i
know
L524[13:35:27] <kevlarballoons> i just had
the scientist i picked up fly the thing
L525[13:35:33] <kevlarballoons> i thought
sas only worked with pilots but
L526[13:36:01] <kevlarballoons> anyways
it's so efficient apparently you can just press the prograde button
on sas and it'll automatically ascend you
L527[13:36:06] <kevlarballoons> all you
need is to circularize
L528[13:36:31] <Mathuin> If you've got the
training, or (my secret) a sufficiently advanced probe core in the
mix.
L529[13:36:44] <kevlarballoons> no probe
core
L530[13:36:56] <Mathuin> The one thing I
*wish* RAMP had was a "land on Kerbin, optionally with a
target location" script, but the scripts it does have for
landing don't have that functionality and I'm not that smart at the
moment.
L531[13:37:44] <kevlarballoons> my plane
is now a lowrider apparently
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L533[13:39:04] <kevlarballoons> uh oh
thats a problem
L534[13:39:17] <kevlarballoons> my plane
can't reach 9k but i already took the contract
L535[13:40:00] <Mathuin> Time for more
boosters?
L536[13:40:16] <Fluburtur> do you need a
Fluburtur Aerospace™ plane perhaps?
L537[13:40:37] <kevlarballoons> ooh
L538[13:40:40] <kevlarballoons> i'm
interested fluburtur
L539[13:40:43] <EntropicRaptor> No,
seriously. Fly to the site, use boosters to reach the right
altitude, complete contract.
L541[13:41:00] <kevlarballoons> no it's
"take this engine to altitude
L542[13:41:06] <kevlarballoons> "go
this fast"
L543[13:41:09] <kevlarballoons> so i'll
just use a rocket
L544[13:41:18] <kevlarballoons> nice
fluburtur
L545[13:41:19] <Fluburtur> I recommend the
lancier 2 or k919 for your stuff
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L547[13:41:28] <Fluburtur> but I think
they have a fairly high tech level
L548[13:41:41] <Fluburtur> the cafe racer
might be able to do the job
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L550[13:42:58] <Mathuin> What
EntropicRaptor said was what I was thinking, I've done it for
'measure the air temperature above 19km at Crazy Bob's
Ranch"-type contracts.
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L552[13:44:28] <EntropicRaptor> That
reminds me, I should work out a guidance system to use an RT-10 or
2 to do those measurement contracts.
L553[13:44:29] <APlayer> kevlarballoons:
Depending on your engine, you might make it by reaching your peak,
boosting down as fast as possible, levelling out, gaining as much
velocity as possible, and pitching up to desired altitude
L554[13:44:46] <kevlarballoons> no
L555[13:44:56] <kevlarballoons> the
highest i've ever gone in my plane is 5k
L556[13:45:00] <kevlarballoons> which was
amazing actually
L557[13:45:05] <kevlarballoons> i need
more than just the juno
L558[13:45:29] <Mathuin> Hmm, now I'm
pondering a kOS drone. Fly to this lat-long at that altitude, take
measurement, return, land.
L559[13:45:41] <APlayer> Alright
L560[13:46:11] <APlayer> Mathuin: I saw an
awesome video for a similar thing a while back
L561[13:46:33] <kevlarballoons> is wind
simulated in ksp?
L562[13:46:39] <APlayer> No
L563[13:46:47] <kevlarballoons> huh
L564[13:46:54] <kevlarballoons> my rockets
drift when going down
L565[13:46:59] <Fluburtur> I built a yak
15
L566[13:47:03] <Fluburtur> I should add it
to the list
L567[13:47:03] <APlayer> East?
L568[13:47:11] <Fluburtur> I could
probably get that high
L569[13:47:17] <Fluburtur> and works with
a single juno
L570[13:47:38] <kevlarballoons> well i
could do it with a drone i guess
L571[13:47:40] <Mathuin> APlayer: link me
if you come across it again? Love to see it.
L572[13:47:49] <kevlarballoons> but i need
to bring a whole 1.25m engine
L573[13:48:05] <kevlarballoons> either way
i ended up strapping it to an okto and a srb + fins
L575[13:48:12] <kevlarballoons>
parachutes
L576[13:48:18] <kevlarballoons> not much
cost
L577[13:48:29] <APlayer> Mathuin:
Sure!
L579[13:48:31] <kmath> YouTube - HoverBot
drone - a kOS program
L580[13:49:15] <Mathuin> Sweet! My efforts
to avoid grading homework are making great progress.
L581[13:49:43] <Mathuin> ... that looks
like a port of TCA to kOS
L583[13:50:26] <APlayer> Mathuin: That
looks like an extremely amazing script
L584[13:50:58] <APlayer> I'd rank it
number two on the list of the most amazing kOS script I've ever
seen
L585[13:51:10] <Mathuin> Wonder how well
it works without the parts mods
L586[13:51:21] <Mathuin> But it is pretty
darned amazing
L587[13:53:53] <Mathuin> Okay, I did *not*
expect that bit with the rover four minutes in
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L590[14:01:51] <Draconiator> Yeesh.
lol
L592[14:01:53] <kmath> YouTube - MG-4000 -
ULTRA HEAVY SSTO | KSP
L593[14:02:01] <Mathuin> Okay, that was
probably the most amazing thing I've seen in KSP like at all.
L594[14:03:02] <ve2dmn> I have to send 23
tourist to my hotel in LKO... any suggestions?
L595[14:03:37] <Mathuin> Two Mk3 schoolbus
modules with 3871 stack separators underneath is the traditional
way, right?
L596[14:04:04] <ve2dmn> ...right
L597[14:04:23] <ve2dmn> so... how do I get
the tourists back ?
L598[14:04:49] <Mathuin> Oh you never said
they had to come back! :-) Umm, super heat shields on the schoolbus
parts? I've never done more than 4 at a time. :-(
L599[14:04:50] <kevlarballoons> how am i
supposed to do this
L600[14:04:56] <kevlarballoons> i reenter
completely retrograde and still blow up
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L602[14:05:43] <Althego> what is your
periapsis?
L603[14:05:45] <ve2dmn> Mathuin: I should
supplies first... my hotel is out of noms
L604[14:05:47] <kevlarballoons> 0
L605[14:05:49] <kevlarballoons>
DAMMIT
L606[14:05:54] <Althego> from orbit?
L607[14:06:05] <Althego> i usually go with
above 20
L608[14:06:17] <kevlarballoons> DAMMIT I'M
SPINNING AND I STILL CAN'T LIVE
L609[14:06:18] <Althego> but that probably
doesnt help for the overheating
L610[14:06:27] <kevlarballoons> I CAME
FROM THE MOON
L611[14:06:31] <Althego> ah
L612[14:06:41] <Althego> then do a 2 pass
aerobreaking
L613[14:06:44] <Althego> with the first
above 45 km
L614[14:06:47] <kevlarballoons>
HOW???
L615[14:06:49] <kevlarballoons> I HAVE NO
BOOSTER
L616[14:06:52] <kevlarballoons> damn
L617[14:06:53] <Althego> hehe
L618[14:06:56] <kevlarballoons>
alt+f12
L619[14:07:02] <kevlarballoons> ignore max
temp
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L621[14:07:20] <Althego> during the trans
kerbin injection at the mun a tiny bit of delta v can set the
correct periapsis
L622[14:07:29] <ve2dmn> ^
L623[14:07:45] <kevlarballoons> every time
i have to cheat i get pissed
L624[14:08:16] <Althego> i usually use the
ignore max temperature when there is a heat sensitive part,
typically bay well behind the engine and the tank and the game
starts to suddenly add and remove heat from it depending on a tiny
bit of difference from retrograde
L625[14:08:23] <Althego> that shouldnt
ha?ppen, so i just ignore it
L626[14:16:42] <ve2dmn> Mathuin: I'm out
of ideas... so magic school bus it is
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L628[14:17:26] <kuzetsa> [O_o]
L629[14:17:57] <kuzetsa> haöppen I can
compose - how did you get ha?ppen though
L630[14:18:08] <kuzetsa> also, what?
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L632[14:19:48] <Althego> it was ha?ppen,
because ? is next to p
L633[14:20:28] <kevlarballoons> itws
weird
L634[14:20:40] <kevlarballoons> the impact
velocity of my wheels are 125m/s
L635[14:20:44] <kevlarballoons> and they
break below 125m/s
L636[14:21:58] <Althego> vertical
speed
L638[14:22:33] <kmath> YouTube - SpaceX
Launch You Up (Uptown Funk Parody)
L639[14:23:17] <APlayer> kevlarballoons:
You never /have/ to use Alt-F12
L640[14:23:47] <APlayer> Space is
hard
L641[14:23:56] <APlayer> Face the
consequences
L642[14:24:21] <APlayer> (This is actually
advice. It will make the game more fun!)
L643[14:25:58] <Fluburtur> kevlarballoons
did you take a look at my planes yet?
L644[14:26:34] <kevlarballoons> it's not
vertical speed
L645[14:26:48] <kevlarballoons> APlayer:
generally
L646[14:26:59] <Gasher> 125 m/s for wheels
seem to be too high a number
L647[14:27:14] <kevlarballoons> but when i
fly a launch clamp to a sun and figure out that i was supposed to
stage instead of run test
L648[14:27:19] <kevlarballoons> i'm going
to alt+f12
L649[14:28:07] <APlayer> Outright Kraken
attacks are fine to Alt-F12, yes
L650[14:28:25] <ve2dmn> it's your game.
There is no wrong way to play
L651[14:28:40] <Gasher> hm, i remember
getting the same situation and failing a mission, my reaction was
like, meh, i have more of those
L652[14:28:45] <APlayer> But I tell you,
you'll find the game much more fun if you refrain from doing it on
normal mishaps
L653[14:28:53] <kevlarballoons> i usually
don't use it except for sandbox memes and unescapable
situations
L654[14:29:07] <kevlarballoons> but i'll
consider it
L655[14:29:12] <sandbox> I have
memes?
L656[14:29:16] <kevlarballoons> ayy
L657[14:29:19] <Gasher> lol
L658[14:29:43] <kevlarballoons> this plane
is outright majestical
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L660[14:30:08] <ve2dmn> sandbox: you can
haz meme, yes
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L662[14:30:56] <kevlarballoons> what would
win: using aerodynamic forces to push a majestical aircraft
up
L663[14:31:04] <kevlarballoons> or
shooting burning fuel out of a tank
L664[14:31:17] <ve2dmn> why not
both?
L665[14:31:20] <APlayer> ^
L666[14:31:24] <APlayer> Ninja'd me
L667[14:31:27] <kevlarballoons> true
L668[14:31:38] <kevlarballoons> but the
first one at least uses air to burn the fuel
L669[14:31:43] <kevlarballoons> the second
one brings its own oxygen
L670[14:31:48] <kevlarballoons> literal
water
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L672[14:32:25] <APlayer> Or use
kevlarballoons filled with helium
L673[14:32:30] <kevlarballoons> lol
L674[14:32:35] <kevlarballoons> i got that
username from this irc
L675[14:32:49] <kevlarballoons> someone
was talking about inflatable habitats
L676[14:32:55] <APlayer> I misread it as
Kerballoons at first
L677[14:33:02] <kevlarballoons> so i
annoyed them by saying "so balloons? what about meteorites
popping them"
L678[14:33:07] <kevlarballoons> and
they're like "kevlarballoons"
L679[14:33:12] <kevlarballoons> so i took
it
L680[14:33:22] <Althego> we need
balloons
L681[14:33:33] <kevlarballoons> the poles
are so far
L682[14:33:36] <Althego> probably would
work on eve
L683[14:33:39] <kevlarballoons> how will
we invade poland now
L684[14:33:45] <APlayer> Kerballoons are a
thing, Althego
L685[14:33:50] <APlayer> Look it up
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L687[14:36:08] <kevlarballoons> tbh why
don't they just fly planes to the north pole
L688[14:36:16] <kevlarballoons> everyone
is trying to walk there
L689[14:37:17] <Althego> because walking
is harder
L690[14:38:52] <kevlarballoons> k we're in
the bay of kerbpole
L691[14:38:59] <kevlarballoons>
almost
L692[14:41:30] <kevlarballoons> oof i was
off target
L694[14:54:02] <kmath> YouTube - You
Laugh, You Lose | Will Ferrell vs. Mark Wahlberg
L695[14:54:49] <Mathuin> ve2dmn: did it
work?
L696[14:56:31] <ve2dmn> *sigh* no
L697[14:56:45] <ve2dmn> having issues with
my supply run
L698[14:57:02] ***
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L702[14:58:16] <diveyez> 1d 56min 28
seconds 30000m orbit Mun CSM + LEM w/ Rover
L703[14:58:43] <diveyez> Jebediah’s face
is hilarious
L704[15:00:30] *
APlayer too misses Red5
L705[15:03:58] <StCypher> maybe i'm blind
but i do not see jebediah
L706[15:04:13] <StCypher> only half of
faces. :p
L707[15:04:28] <StCypher> you guys playing
ksp together?
L708[15:07:04] <ve2dmn> I wish
L710[15:07:48] <StCypher> well i
mean.
L711[15:08:40] <StCypher> iirc, there's a
multiplayer mod, yea?
L712[15:09:45] <ve2dmn> not sure it works
anymore
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L716[15:28:49] <diveyez> I have a self
hosted DMP server
L717[15:29:23] <diveyez> Feel free to join
it
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L720[15:30:09] <diveyez> Once they release
the expansion, I am releasing a few mods related to DMP and career
mode, so people can team up on missions
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L723[15:38:15] <ve2dmn> Watching one of my
booster burning up in the atmosphere, I'm reminded of an old Inital
D track...
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L725[15:44:54] <KrazyKrl> Multi
trophosphere drifting?
L727[15:45:26] <kmath> YouTube - Initial D
(Sara Righetto) - Burning Up For You (OST)
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L731[16:15:47] <ve2dmn> Time to test the
magic spacebus
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L736[16:40:54] <Fluburtur> I might be able
to order my 3d printer this week
L737[16:41:21] <Fluburtur> I went to the
3d printer IRC and they told me that getting a kit and upgrading it
wasn't expensive and well worth it
L738[16:42:07] <ve2dmn> Spacebus worked...
but I forgot the parachutes
L739[16:42:36] <Mathuin> Nooooo
L740[16:43:30] <ve2dmn> Also forgot to put
solar panels
L741[16:44:16] <legion> uhoh
L742[16:45:01] <ve2dmn> I can either
revert.... or dock with the space station and leave everyone there
until the next bus comes to the rescue
L743[16:45:17] <ve2dmn> I'm close to
docking but I have not docked yet
L744[16:57:12] <Mathuin> Is it worth
staying in orbit and launching a tiny craft with batteries, panels,
and a pair of docking ports?
L745[16:57:21] <Mathuin> And chutes of
course. :-)
L746[16:59:26] <ve2dmn> no
L747[16:59:41] <ve2dmn> I look at it, and
I basically made BFR...
L748[17:03:53] <ve2dmn> If I was better
with spaceplanes, I would put wings on it and try to land it
L749[17:05:10] <ve2dmn> but I'm terrible
at landing
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L758[17:32:48] <ve2dmn> interesting.... I
got the reward for taking the tourists to the Hotel...
L759[17:32:54] <ve2dmn> no recover
needed...
L760[17:32:56] <ve2dmn> ...hum...
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L763[17:42:06] <ve2dmn> came SO close to
total loss of spacebus...
L764[17:42:44] <ve2dmn> ran out of
monoprop, because the thing had a monprop engine instead of a
tradionall engine...
L765[17:44:23] <ve2dmn> and I did recover:
..........KSP has encoutered an error and must be close
L766[17:48:30] <ve2dmn> wow... this time
it's 34 tourist
L767[17:49:18] <Mathuin> Goodness.
L769[17:52:50] <Mathuin> Watching on my
tablet while I grade this homework
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L771[17:55:29] <Mathuin> Nice
station
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L773[18:00:13] <ve2dmn> There even
better
L774[18:00:49] <Mathuin> I can barely dock
one port let alone two
L775[18:01:46] <ve2dmn> if you do it slow
enough, it's the same
L776[18:01:56] <ve2dmn> (if they are
correctly aligned)
L777[18:04:22] <Mathuin> Do you ever try
to change the station's orbit as a whole, or is that insane once
you get to the tinkertoy stage?
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L779[18:04:35] <ve2dmn> too many
parts
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L781[18:06:40] <ve2dmn> They are gonna be
dismantled anyway
L782[18:06:47] ***
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L783[18:07:39] <ve2dmn> too many parts, so
it makes the whole thing too long to load
L784[18:07:57] <ve2dmn> it's nice looking,
but it take a long time to build
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L786[18:13:29] <Fluburtur> does anyone
know some sort of way to mak a project whiteboard?
L787[18:14:00] <Fluburtur> to regroup the
data and progress of everyone and make everything more
efficient
L788[18:15:30] <Mathuin> The devil is in
the details. We introduced Trello at home and it has made our
"domestic projects" much easier to visualize and
manage.
L789[18:17:37] <Fluburtur> so yes?
L790[18:17:58] <KrazyKrl> just use github,
lawl.
L791[18:18:10] <Fluburtur> we have a plane
laser tag project thing going on and I can handle hardware and
flight testing stuff, several dudes an do software
L792[18:18:16] <Fluburtur> the rst I
dunno
L793[18:18:47] <Mathuin> Then Trello might
work for you. If you tend to have a collection of tasks which move
through a set of categories (to do, doing, done, that sort of
thing), then it does work well.
L794[18:19:18] <Fluburtur> I guess it
works for regrouping software code too
L795[18:19:23] <Mathuin> And now I'm
taking a break from schoolwork. Grading sucks.
L796[18:19:30] <Fluburtur> if everyone
sends their part of the code in their category
L798[18:26:05] <Fluburtur> uh that's a
lot
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L817[19:48:02] <ve2dmn> KSP crashed. It's
a sign
L818[19:56:02] <UmbralRaptor> More
RAM?
L819[20:00:47] <ve2dmn> nah, that I should
go to bed
L820[20:01:34] <ve2dmn> Is there any way
to transfer Lab 'data' to another lab?
L821[20:02:00] <ve2dmn> or do I have to
wait for it to empty itself
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Space Program 1.2: Loud and Clear - Cinematic Trailer
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L871[23:04:21] <baozidia> How you
calculate a suicide burn time? What's the formula
L872[23:05:22] <taniwha>
d=u*t+1/2*a*t^2
L873[23:05:51] <taniwha> solve for t,
where a = ship acceleration - gravity
L874[23:06:17] <taniwha> (not quite that
simple, though, since things vary over time)
L875[23:07:14] <baozidia> but if we don't
count air or mass vary of the rocket during the Burnning
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L878[23:12:17] <baozidia> well. BUt the
"d" and "t" and both unknow. it cant be
solved
L879[23:14:01] <Einarr> ;choose KSP | War
Thunder
L880[23:14:01] <kmath> Einarr: KSP
L881[23:14:20] <Einarr> ;8ball Are you
biased?
L882[23:14:20] <kmath> Einarr: As I see
it, yes
L883[23:14:35] <Einarr> At least he admits
it...
L884[23:15:31] *
Einarr notices the time...
L885[23:15:54] <Einarr> Actually...I need
to sleep, so choosing between playing KSP or War Thunder is
moot.
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L888[23:27:13] <taniwha> baozidia: if you
don't know d, then you're in pretty big trouble :)
L889[23:34:12] <baozidia> taniwha: I got.
thanks : )
L890[23:34:36] <taniwha> :)
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