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L1[00:01:10] <Draconiator> It's about darn time Ike being in the way of my approach to Duna is actually beneficial.
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L5[00:06:44] <Draconiator> Just hope my radiators survive....I need them and Duna has an atmosphere so...
L6[00:08:28] <Einarr> Are you thrusting during aerocapture?
L7[00:08:48] <Einarr> If not, shut down the reactor and close the radiators.
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L9[00:09:56] <Einarr> Or are you going for a direct landing?
L10[00:12:17] <Draconiator> Yeah, oops, I kinda goofed up on that one.
L11[00:13:38] <Einarr> If you're going for a direct landing instead of capturing first, you'll likely need to thrust hard, and will thus lose the radiators eventually.
L12[00:15:37] <Draconiator> Yep, lost the radiatores and the antennas....and slammed into the surface. and my landing target was 20KM away. epic fail I think lol
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L14[00:20:44] <Draconiator> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-spaceship-campus-one-flaw-113008163.html
L15[00:23:57] <KrazyKrl> Apple's New "Liability Glass" (Patent Pending)
L16[00:27:11] <Althego> lol
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L19[00:41:20] <Einarr> Trying to determine if the thrusters in Kerbal Atomics have dangerously radioactive exhaust...
L20[00:44:50] <KrazyKrl> if they are open cycle... certainly.
L21[00:45:32] <Einarr> Exactly, mostly trying to determine how many of the engines are likely to be open cycle.
L22[00:46:14] <Einarr> Certainly the 'Emancipator' would be a problem as one of it's operating modes actually spews out some of the core during firing.
L23[00:49:08] <ConductorCat> :3
L24[00:50:18] <KrazyKrl> Well, depending on what type of NTR they are... i'd say that any engine above maybe 1500 ISP is open cycle, and "dirty"
L25[00:51:10] <KrazyKrl> closed cycle tops out at 1500-2000 for a gas core NTR
L26[00:54:13] <Einarr> Well, Kerbal Atomics does include some gas core thrusters.
L27[00:54:43] <Einarr> There are some that I definitely have to assume are open cycle.
L28[00:57:39] <KrazyKrl> Well, you can get some crazy ISP from an open cycle NTR.
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L31[01:24:22] <Althego> https://i.imgur.com/SCQxC3W.gifv
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L38[02:13:10] <RandomJeb> Einarr: have you considered what 'dangerously radioactive' even is to kerbals?
L39[02:13:28] <Althego> probably nthing
L40[02:13:59] <RandomJeb> their culture doesn't seem to rate mortal danger as a very worrisome thing
L41[02:14:12] <RandomJeb> and I suspect their physiology is much more resistant to radiation damage than our own
L42[02:14:38] <Althego> they probasbly eat radiation for brakfast
L43[02:15:38] <RandomJeb> if you're not cooking on the new RTG stove from rocketdyne, what are you DOING??
L44[02:15:47] <Althego> hehe
L45[02:15:53] <Althego> that is relatively safe anyway
L46[02:16:14] <Althego> plutonium stove, guaranteed to last for 30 years
L47[02:19:47] <KrazyKrl> The real reason there are no cities on Kerbin: Project Eeloo
L48[02:20:01] <Althego> what is that
L49[02:20:15] <KrazyKrl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pluto
L50[02:20:35] <Althego> nuclear ramjet
L51[02:20:38] <Althego> very kerbal
L52[02:20:41] <Althego> i want one
L53[02:20:53] <RandomJeb> my headcanon says that the KSC is just a remnant autotheatre art project that is using advanced robotics to show a dead audience the glory of how kerbals got into space
L54[02:21:12] <RandomJeb> kerbals wiped themselves out up to 200 years ago, more than 50
L55[02:21:46] <RandomJeb> there's ruins everywhere
L56[02:21:47] <KrazyKrl> Project Pluto was so absurd... they cancelled it in 1961.
L57[02:21:48] <Althego> and only grass, cactus and 2 trees survived
L58[02:21:53] <RandomJeb> and [REDACTED] crashed in places
L59[02:21:56] <KrazyKrl> A nuclear program. Stopped in the 60s.
L60[02:22:02] <RandomJeb> poking out of the sands and snow
L61[02:22:03] <Althego> hehe
L62[02:22:37] <RandomJeb> the thing on bop may suggest that the kerbals weren't the ones to wipe out kerbals
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L64[02:26:15] <Althego> the dead kraken?
L65[02:26:36] <RandomJeb> I like to use words like [REDACTED] to describe it
L66[02:26:44] <RandomJeb> but yes
L67[02:26:58] <Althego> too much scp?
L68[02:27:33] <RandomJeb> KSP memers stole it from SCP years ago
L69[02:30:31] <RandomJeb> but yeah there's plenty of ruins, monuments and broken old tech laying around the kerbol system
L70[02:30:43] <Althego> there are at least 2 ufos
L71[02:30:51] <Althego> all the monoliths
L72[02:30:56] <Althego> the face, the pyramid
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L74[02:31:21] <Althego> the henge
L75[02:31:45] <Althego> i think i havent visited the cave yet
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L77[02:32:09] <Althego> obviously because of tylo
L78[02:32:39] <RandomJeb> when I visited the cave I had to jingle the camera around so I could see underground to spot it :P
L79[02:32:51] <Althego> supposedly now it is ok
L80[02:32:58] <Althego> i had to wait years for the pyramid to work again
L81[02:38:19] <RandomJeb> I kinda chose a bad time for my anomaly tour, a lot of stuff was underground at the time
L82[02:38:28] <RandomJeb> though at least it was early enough that the magic boulder was still there
L83[02:38:43] <Althego> yes, no magic boulder for me
L84[02:38:50] <Althego> ok, now you can get the asteroids
L85[02:39:03] <RandomJeb> not quite the same though
L86[02:39:18] <Althego> do not taunt the magic boulder
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L89[02:40:05] <Althego> yuri on ice :)
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L91[02:50:21] <Gasher> lol
L92[02:50:33] <Gasher> i have only seen the boulder-textured asteroid
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L94[03:06:03] <Althego> hmm, no node for more than 2 hours. but there is no particular science i would want to do now
L95[03:06:18] <Althego> yet letting 2 hours going by is a waste of time
L96[03:08:17] <Althego> maybe i could do biome hopping in the ksc on top of buildings
L97[03:08:23] <Althego> i think those are serat biomes
L98[03:20:43] <Althego> this is harder than i thought it would be
L99[03:21:01] <Althego> one crash took down the vab lol
L100[03:28:21] <Althego> hehei f you hit the buildings at an edge they are destroyed, airplane ciockpit is ok
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L102[03:31:09] <Symix> ???????? ?? https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/171006-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0/
L103[03:31:33] <Symix> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/171006-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0/
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L106[03:33:55] <TheKosmonaut> Gasher: what is he saying
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L108[03:34:34] <TheKosmonaut> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/kpJBrWDR/IMG_1201.PNG
L109[03:35:01] <Althego> broken links
L110[03:36:11] <Gasher> he said that after 15 to 40 minutes of playing KSP when he loads a craft (plane or rocket) the game quits without crash message
L111[03:36:54] <Gasher> win XP 32bit, with and without mods, he says that he "downloaded the game from different sites"
L112[03:36:55] <TheKosmonaut> Oh. Lol.
L113[03:37:00] <Gasher> lol last one is suspicious
L114[03:37:06] <TheKosmonaut> I just realized he is a queued user
L115[03:37:09] <TheKosmonaut> Hmm
L116[03:37:29] <TheKosmonaut> I could take care of that. Or I could just wait for the Russian moderator
L117[03:38:43] <Gasher> he also says he can provide more info if needed
L118[03:40:36] <Gasher> also gtg, TheKosmonaut
L119[03:43:01] <TheKosmonaut> Also what.... XP? Lol
L120[03:44:35] <TheKosmonaut> Thanks Gasher
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L123[03:51:36] <Althego> let's make the wind tunnel great again. i want it to be part of the science somehow
L124[03:51:52] <Althego> or to do some testing for the craft you bilt
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L129[04:26:50] <Althego> strangely the administration and the astronaut complex buildings roofs dont have their owen biome
L130[04:26:57] <Althego> the science building has multiple
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L132[04:30:15] <Althego> nothing on top of mission control
L133[04:33:52] <Althego> got quite a lot of science from the rooftops
L134[04:34:10] <Althego> but landing on the observation building of the science complex is really hard
L135[04:34:24] <Althego> small roofs, all of them are curved or have ac units
L136[04:49:34] <Althego> i didnt realize, but apparently there is a launch window in early careeer to moho
L137[04:50:19] <Althego> around 5-5.5k m/s delta-v in one direction
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L140[05:09:09] <APlayer> Moho is weird
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L143[05:11:29] <Althego> now i have enough science to build normal rockets. i could try to send kerbals. but bob is not back yet and nobody else has been to even minmus
L144[05:11:55] <APlayer> Time to correct this issue?
L145[05:12:01] <APlayer> Send them to the Mun or so?
L146[05:12:14] <Althego> everybody has been to the mun
L147[05:12:29] <APlayer> Then they have enough experience
L148[05:19:32] <Althego> 12 biomes at moho
L149[05:19:53] <Althego> hopping seems likely
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L152[05:23:32] <Althego> apparently you can go to moho and come back quite fast because there is a launch window back. i think i have to send bob there in a day
L153[05:24:15] <BPlayer> I need to see the ship
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L155[05:24:48] <Althego> oh wait, no i don get there around day 80
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L162[05:40:45] <Fluburtur> the battery for my heli finally arrived
L163[05:49:00] <Einarr> taniwha: You around?
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L165[05:50:00] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/928eabbd252dc1c3dd87a08c65085334/tumblr_inline_om94kwBI1g1r1z35k_540.jpg
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L167[05:53:28] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/c303631f7ddd7013c842a64eb955f133/tumblr_p4644jkOOF1sqq731o1_540.jpg
L168[05:53:52] <taniwha> Einarr: yup
L169[05:54:05] <taniwha> btw, working on a replacement for MFT:
L170[05:54:11] <taniwha> http://taniwha.org/~bill/screenshot4226.png http://taniwha.org/~bill/screenshot4227.png
L171[05:54:47] <Einarr> No tank for scrapmetal?
L172[05:54:48] <taniwha> (the idea is you will be able to do things like add habitation etc as well as resources)
L173[05:54:51] <Althego> tetrahub
L174[05:55:12] <taniwha> Althego: tetrahedron with nodes on all four faces
L175[05:55:13] <Einarr> Only storage for it I found was in the smelters...
L176[05:55:19] <Althego> diamond cubic structures ftw
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L179[05:55:33] <taniwha> Einarr: so far, yeah, sorry (in EL)
L180[05:56:05] <taniwha> Einarr: however, Talisar Parts has MFT configs for all EL resources (and some pretty big tanks: 200m^3)
L181[05:56:12] <Einarr> And the recyclers turn things into scrapmetal, right?
L182[05:56:16] <taniwha> yeah
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L184[05:56:43] <Einarr> APlayer: Fix ur internet. :P
L185[05:56:51] <taniwha> Einarr: that tetrahub will probably find its way into EL (with scrapmetal support) and I think I've accepted patches for ScrapMetal storage
L186[05:57:06] <taniwha> (the tetrahub and other tanks like it)
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L188[05:58:23] <Einarr> Time to see about designing the mining landers for my Grand Tour Ship...
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L190[05:58:32] <APlayer> Einarr: I think I just fixed it
L191[05:58:32] <Einarr> APlayer: Fix ur internet. :P
L192[05:58:53] <Einarr> Let's hope so.
L193[05:59:13] <APlayer> My internet has never been the best, but I had extra problems for half an hour or so
L194[05:59:16] <taniwha> Einarr: bad texture part is not finished, but... http://taniwha.org/~bill/screenshot4228.png
L195[05:59:24] <taniwha> (all other parts are tanks)
L196[05:59:24] * Einarr resets peer's connection...
L197[05:59:36] <Althego> check yo internet :)
L198[05:59:56] <Einarr> Check yo stagin'
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L201[06:02:35] <BPlayer> Apologies, folks
L202[06:02:54] * taniwha duct tapes BPlayer to the channel
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L204[06:04:14] <taniwha> 3 2 1... ;)
L205[06:04:32] <taniwha> (I suspect your connection auto-drops when you change your nick)
L206[06:04:35] <APlayer> taniwha: Rather WD-40 my router
L207[06:04:49] <APlayer> No, not really
L208[06:04:58] <Althego> use the boring not flamethrower on i
L209[06:04:59] <Althego> t
L210[06:05:16] <APlayer> Althego: I think it's about to go up in flames on its own
L211[06:05:25] <APlayer> No need to help
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L213[06:06:16] <APlayer> Anyway, I just put out the flames, so the worst should be over
L214[06:10:32] <APlayer> Hey, the connection survived for 5 minutes!
L215[06:10:49] <Althego> achievement unlocked
L216[06:11:17] <Fluburtur> uh great I lost my heat shring tubing
L217[06:11:28] <Fluburtur> or my grandma decided to hide it somewhere
L218[06:11:42] * APlayer gives Fluburtur heat shrimp tubing
L219[06:11:55] <Fluburtur> nice
L220[06:12:25] <Althego> shrink
L221[06:13:24] <Althego> who would want high temperature crustacean veins?
L222[06:15:50] * APlayer gives althego shrink shrimp tubing
L223[06:16:07] <Althego> check yo tubing
L224[06:17:16] <APlayer> Fuel lines seem to be mostly intact
L225[06:17:59] <APlayer> There are a few holes, but none of them larger than half a square meter or so
L226[06:18:04] <APlayer> Should be fine
L227[06:19:30] <Einarr> Hmm...I'd love to use Magnetoplasma thrusters for my landers...however, I probably would not be able to land/take off from even Duna, let alone Laythe or Eve...
L228[06:19:57] <APlayer> Start small, get bigger
L229[06:20:14] <APlayer> Try Gilly at first, then Ike, then the Mun
L230[06:20:35] <Einarr> Non-atmo bodies aren't an issue.
L231[06:20:41] <APlayer> Perhaps by then, you'll have the technology to make Duna
L232[06:20:44] <Einarr> It's not the gravity that's the issue.
L233[06:20:58] <APlayer> Or at least the experience to judge that as a definitive no
L234[06:21:09] <Einarr> I'm running in Sandbox and using Near Future stuff.
L235[06:21:16] <APlayer> Then make upper-atmosphere tests
L236[06:21:30] <Einarr> Making an electric theuster powered Grand Tour Mothership.
L237[06:21:45] <APlayer> Well, no
L238[06:21:55] <APlayer> Electric thrusters will definitely not work on Eve
L239[06:21:58] <Einarr> The only problem with NFT's electric thrusters are that they lose a large amount of thrust in atmo.
L240[06:22:10] <APlayer> But they might just work on Duna
L241[06:22:21] <Einarr> Maybe...just barely...
L242[06:22:29] <APlayer> Nukes do work on Duna, so...
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L244[06:29:06] <Einarr> I could in theory use the Lithium engines on Duna and Laythe...providing them with enough power would be a challenge, though.
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L247[06:29:29] <APlayer> There goes my new connection record
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L249[06:29:43] <Einarr> APlayer: Fix ur internet. :P
L250[06:53:01] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/414403109486329856/20180123175526_1.jpg
L251[06:54:20] <APlayer> Fluburtur: Situation's nominal?
L252[06:54:34] <Fluburtur> yeah
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L255[07:36:39] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: KSP lookes weird :P :D
L256[07:36:55] <Fluburtur> yeah
L257[07:37:06] <Fluburtur> also I now have my battery so I turned on the heli with the blades on
L258[07:37:09] <Fluburtur> was super scary
L259[07:37:47] <Mat2ch> flying head cutter. :D
L260[07:37:55] <Fluburtur> yeah
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L262[07:39:42] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/O_d2ITWX-xQ
L263[07:39:42] <kmath> YouTube - scary as heck
L264[07:41:00] <taniwha> free haircuts ;)
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L273[07:59:44] <Pakaran> Hi. Does anyone here play Rodina?
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L275[08:13:31] <Einarr> Hmm...Seems I'll need ~4500 dv minimum to both land on and take off from Tylo.
L276[08:13:44] <Einarr> (from low Tylo Orbit)
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L278[08:15:50] <APlayer> ISRU?
L279[08:17:17] <Einarr> I'd like to keep the lander compact...
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L281[08:19:35] <Einarr> Although, I could see about making my remote mining landers into ISRU units...and thereby eliminate that capability from the mothership itself.
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L289[08:43:04] <Einarr> APlayer: Words with your ISP, you must have.
L290[08:43:17] <APlayer> This was, for once, not my internet
L291[08:43:32] <APlayer> Rather a long chain of problems. I reverted to launch in KSP, this overloaded some part of Windows so that Explorer crashed and restarted, and this caused HexChat to crash
L292[08:44:02] <APlayer> Or at least all those things happened at once and I concluded they must have happened in that order. I may be wrong, though
L293[08:44:11] <Einarr> You're using Windows, why?
L294[08:44:24] <APlayer> Because software that only supports Windows
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L296[08:44:48] <APlayer> Not sure what to hate, Microsoft or third party software because it only supports Windows
L297[08:45:03] <APlayer> I should get a dual boot system, but too lazy
L298[08:45:12] <taniwha> there's often an alternative
L299[08:45:39] <Einarr> Workbench 3.x is usually a good alternative.
L300[08:46:57] <Einarr> Although, if you use older software, 1.3 might work better for you...
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L302[08:47:58] * Einarr has decided to go with a conventional LF/O thruster setup for his manned lander.
L303[08:50:01] <Einarr> Also going to have to move the ISRU capabilities to the other two remote landers (which were meant only as miners).
L304[08:50:27] <APlayer> Garr
L305[08:50:42] <APlayer> Moved around some debug code and broke the program in the process
L306[08:51:07] <Einarr> Manned lander only has ~3km/s dv, so unable to both land and return to orbit from places like Tylo.
L307[08:51:17] <APlayer> How come? I can reproduce it, even
L308[08:51:48] <APlayer> The debug code only draws stuff on the screen, but if I move it from one place to another, the whole programs behaviour changes
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L310[08:52:38] <Einarr> Without seeing the code, I doubt any of us could be of any real help.
L311[08:53:45] <APlayer> I'm just complaining about my life, not asking for help. But thanks :D
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L320[10:05:20] <APlayer> Turns out, if you run a rocket stage simulation program and enter some nonsense for the burn duration, the mass keeps decreasing and the acceleration explodes towards the end of the burn, and, ta-da! You've just invented an SSTO
L321[10:05:27] <APlayer> In RSS, that is
L322[10:06:23] <APlayer> Almost "achieved" escape velocity even, heh
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L326[10:36:55] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/lkwWaFAd_r8
L327[10:36:55] <kmath> YouTube - DSC 8413
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L334[11:21:25] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/zl5TIR1_ciQ?t=352
L335[11:21:26] <kmath> YouTube - Flat Spin and Prop Comes Off at Airshow
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L341[11:33:15] <ve2dmn> Hello
L342[11:33:17] <Mod9000> Hello, ve2dmn
L343[11:33:24] <Fluburtur> yo
L344[11:38:28] <ve2dmn> Today, I'm going to Dres
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L349[11:45:16] <Althego> haha
L350[11:45:20] <Althego> nobody does that
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L355[11:55:54] <ve2dmn> Althego: It a sneaky way of saying: my life is going nowehre
L356[12:03:02] <ve2dmn> Does anyone know where I can find info on PotatoRoid collision mesh inside the save file?
L357[12:03:20] <Althego> why would it be in the savefile?
L358[12:03:34] <Althego> i would expect its name only
L359[12:04:13] <ve2dmn> because I have issues with USI ART and I want to make sure there isn't 2 conflicting definitions of a giving asteroid
L360[12:05:32] <Althego> isnt it rather under the part dir?
L361[12:09:10] <ve2dmn> my issue seems to be here: https://github.com/BobPalmer/ART/blob/master/FOR_RELEASE/GameData/UmbraSpaceIndustries/ART/Asteroid.cfg#L18-L28
L362[12:10:30] <ve2dmn> When I first load an asteroid, it is 5 times larger...
L363[12:10:53] <Althego> but then why does it change the size?
L364[12:11:03] <ve2dmn> ...then I save the game, reload it (after docking) and is is only the stock size
L365[12:11:20] <ve2dmn> but the mass stays
L366[12:11:38] <Althego> i cant figure out what to do with the moho window
L367[12:11:50] <ve2dmn> So I have this tiny 5m rock that is 25k tonnes
L368[12:12:08] <ve2dmn> 'tiny' in terms of asteroids...
L369[12:12:36] <Althego> complete gravity mapping of 12 biomes would take too long, i probably cant arrive back with bob in time to catch the duna window
L370[12:12:55] <Althego> i should have sent probes a few days ago
L371[12:13:33] <ve2dmn> you can get there sooner... it just uses a lot more dV
L372[12:13:45] <Althego> i already did that with duna
L373[12:16:11] <Althego> i can also try to use isru now
L374[12:16:26] <Althego> but it takes up even more time, and it is too heavy
L375[12:22:33] <ve2dmn> I'm reading the code and I'm not sure if I understand what is wrong with my potatoes
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L378[12:37:34] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/414490546804097024/DSC_8412.JPG
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L381[12:46:46] <Althego> it is hiding
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L383[12:55:37] <APlayer> Just waiting for you to come closer...
L384[13:09:32] <Fluburtur> I had to emergency land in a fields
L385[13:09:42] <Fluburtur> I actually used the motors to make it come closer to me
L386[13:10:49] <Althego> surprisingly green despite the winter
L387[13:10:59] <Fluburtur> yeah
L388[13:11:03] <Fluburtur> all snow has melted here
L389[13:11:14] <Fluburtur> went from freezing to somewhat acceptable weather
L390[13:11:24] <Althego> there was no snow this year either
L391[13:11:28] <Althego> ok, a bit, for a week or so
L392[13:12:10] <ve2dmn> We had record snow
L393[13:12:21] <Althego> yes, north america had it tough
L394[13:12:34] <Althego> but the last 10 years... winters are practically nonexistent here
L395[13:12:40] <ve2dmn> The winter is not over yet and we are already at the yearly average
L396[13:12:54] <Fluburtur> we didn't have snow here since like 5 years
L397[13:13:27] <Fluburtur> probably more actually
L398[13:13:52] <Fluburtur> but anyways now it is sorta warm
L399[13:13:59] <Fluburtur> I think the flood is gone too
L400[13:14:00] <ve2dmn> I hope, for your sake, that the Gulf stream doesn't shut down
L401[13:14:11] <Fluburtur> so this means I will be able to fly the canadair over water!
L402[13:15:49] <Althego> dont worry. we will live. all other humans are f... for several thousands of years
L403[13:16:13] <Althego> because the carbon dioxide will not just disappear from the atmosphere even if we stop producing it
L404[13:16:25] <ve2dmn> :/
L405[13:16:37] <Althego> we managed to stop the ozone hole
L406[13:16:51] <Althego> that seems to be almost fixed
L407[13:17:26] <Althego> but the replacement products are greenhouse gases
L408[13:17:46] <Althego> so we changed the short term problem to a long term one
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L411[13:29:12] <ve2dmn> wow... I just seen an asteroid with Pe = 13,225,225,000 an AP of 1,000,000,000,000...
L412[13:29:26] <ve2dmn> takes around 270years to do a revolution
L413[13:29:59] <ve2dmn> Eeloo is super eay to get to in comparison
L414[13:42:13] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVQdSGQajj0
L415[13:42:13] <kmath> YouTube - How Do I Know This is the Falcon Heavy Second Stage?
L416[13:46:59] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: why did you stop trying to launch the heli?
L417[13:47:18] <Fluburtur> I wasn't trying to take off
L418[13:47:30] <Fluburtur> was just a static run to see if everything was working
L419[13:47:45] <Fluburtur> and to show to peoples that actually know about helis to tell me if everything was ok
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L421[13:49:43] <Althego> heh vandenberg launch pushed to 21 feb
L422[13:52:56] <Mat2ch> Something about fairing upgrade. Huh?
L423[13:53:08] <Althego> adding more struts :)
L424[13:53:15] <Althego> cheking staging :)
L425[13:53:56] <Althego> no, they are not adding more boosters, that would be a falcon heavy
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L428[13:58:26] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch I might get the heli flying this week
L429[13:58:44] <Mat2ch> :)
L430[14:09:40] <Draconiator> Yeesh, lots of gaming relates stuff I want to do and jusrt had my PC slow to a crawl due to wanting to do them all at the same time....that ain't gonna work heh
L431[14:11:15] <Althego> heh the guy went throught the whole falcon heavy launch in orbiter
L432[14:12:37] <Althego> just to show that the same earth image is visible
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L434[14:15:29] <Althego> i can see that orbiter is not my game. too realistic
L435[14:15:44] <Althego> it is almost as hard to launch than in reality
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L439[14:43:22] <Fluburtur> https://www.banggood.com/TRONXY-X1-Desktop-DIY-3D-Printer-Kit-150150150mm-Printing-Size-1_75mm-Support-Off-line-Print-p-1161863.html?rmmds=category&cur_warehouse=CN
L440[14:43:26] <Fluburtur> so much broken english
L441[14:43:28] <Fluburtur> I love it
L442[14:52:50] <APlayer> Fluburtur: That's a rather small printer you're looking at
L443[14:53:10] <Fluburtur> yeah but it's rather cheap too and apparently it works very well
L444[14:53:19] <Fluburtur> but I still want a large one
L445[14:53:28] <Fluburtur> to print large parts for rc stuff
L446[14:53:31] <APlayer> I'd say you can find a comparable one for around 150 € that is 200 * 200
L447[14:53:54] <Fluburtur> if I get enough money on my bday I will get the rc10 mini
L448[14:54:03] <Fluburtur> on sales at 250 currently
L449[14:54:07] <APlayer> But generally, those > 200 - 300 € ones will not be good
L450[14:54:15] <Fluburtur> https://www.banggood.com/Creality-3D-CR-10-Mini-DIY-3D-Printer-Kit-Support-Resume-Print-300220300mm-Large-Printing-Size-p-1201287.html?rmmds=category&cur_warehouse=CN
L451[14:56:19] <APlayer> I presume you did read up stuff on it from outside of this shop page?
L452[14:56:31] <Fluburtur> yeah
L453[14:56:41] <APlayer> What do they say about calibration?
L454[14:56:48] <Fluburtur> I know someone that has one and it is very popular on the internet
L455[14:57:19] <APlayer> Alright, if you've seen one in action and the setup process is okay, it should be fine
L456[14:57:31] <Fluburtur> well I didn't see it myself
L457[14:57:52] <Fluburtur> but this one just needs like 4 screws to assemble and then it is ready to run basically
L458[14:57:54] <APlayer> See the prints, at least
L459[14:58:05] <Fluburtur> I wouldn't mind a kit but I want one that works well
L460[14:58:35] <APlayer> Kits do not necessarily mean that it works badly
L461[14:58:46] <Fluburtur> I know
L462[14:58:50] <APlayer> Uh, badly is the wrong word here
L463[14:59:03] <APlayer> Anyone correct me?
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L469[15:24:38] <ve2dmn> https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/922546451652543762/58A988FCE7D735C5CADD27457BFAACB0BADFA6B9/
L470[15:24:59] <Fluburtur> nice
L471[15:25:16] <ve2dmn> also, Moho has a face: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/922546451652543905/24009B8FA0E3ADFCF3E5D68A129D18C6CB6F8D85/
L472[15:25:30] <Fluburtur> heh
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L474[15:29:28] <APlayer> That's exactly the face Moho should have
L475[15:29:40] <APlayer> 100% descriptive
L476[15:30:22] <UmbralRaptor> Moho: still unhappy about losing its atmosphere, even though it is no longer tidally locked.
L477[15:30:40] <APlayer> Did it have one in previous versions?
L478[15:31:18] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/414534178940518411/20180215222538_1.jpg
L479[15:36:42] <darsie> Which mod for finer angle snap?
L480[15:37:10] <APlayer> Editor Extensions Redux, IIRC
L481[15:37:14] <darsie> thx
L482[15:37:29] <APlayer> Not to be confused with Hangar Extender, which does a completely different thing
L483[15:38:04] <darsie> does that also remove symmetry?
L484[15:38:14] <APlayer> No, that makes the VAB bigger
L485[15:38:24] <darsie> I mean the EER
L486[15:38:42] <APlayer> Ah, EER allows you to select symmetries of your choice
L487[15:39:35] <APlayer> It also has some sort of tools for part alignment and such, but I never used them. Mainly because I did not find them
L488[15:40:43] * darsie goes to hunt anomalies. Again.
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L511[18:37:18] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/414580967244693505/20180218005313_1.jpg
L512[18:37:25] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/414580961078935552/20180218005441_1.jpg
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L516[18:54:06] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Once you think about it, the Vorlons and Shadows are not much different than internet trolls.
L517[18:57:18] <Scolar_Visari> The Vorlons are probably hiding trolling grins within their encounter suits.
L518[18:58:51] <UmbralRaptor> Problem, Londo?
L519[18:59:53] <Scolar_Visari> Bombardment of Narn? Total trolling move.
L520[19:00:01] <Scolar_Visari> "U mad g'kar?"
L521[19:00:46] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/414586941208526848/2018-02-18_01-03-12.mp4.Image_fixe001.png
L522[19:01:54] <Scolar_Visari> You appear to have wrecked into . . . something.
L523[19:02:07] <Fluburtur> this was human before I tapped it with the heli
L524[19:02:48] <Scolar_Visari> Ah, the downsides of ragdoll, "physics".
L525[19:03:07] <Fluburtur> it's the first time I actually see a ragdoll messed up that bad in this game
L526[19:06:17] <Scolar_Visari> Psht, I used to see em fairly frequently in FPSes https://snag.gy/WpGKRl.jpg
L527[19:08:59] <Scolar_Visari> I used to have a screenshot of a slain Thin Man from XCOM that got rather wonky, but it appears that was on the discarded hard drive.
L528[19:09:38] <UmbralRaptor> … Thin Man?
L529[19:10:00] * UmbralRaptor grabs a Geiger counter, and hopes it didn't fall into water.
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L531[19:12:23] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptor: Alien infiltrators.
L532[19:13:08] <UmbralRaptor> Ah. Are they more or less dangerous than gun type plutonium nukes?
L533[19:14:36] <Scolar_Visari> Indeed they are! They have high default aim, can use special area of effect poison attacks that never miss and explode in a cloud of poison when killed https://snag.gy/gB8Ytk.jpg
L534[19:14:41] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/414590495012945921/2018-02-18_01-03-12.mp4.Image_fixe003.png
L535[19:14:52] <Scolar_Visari> I've never seen a gun type plutonium nuke do any of that!
L536[19:14:59] <UmbralRaptor> Hah
L537[19:15:09] <Scolar_Visari> Fluburtur: We're about to crash!
L538[19:15:17] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/414590603959992330/2018-02-18_01-03-12.mp4.Image_fixe004.png
L539[19:16:22] <Scolar_Visari> This makes a lot of sense if you assume helicopters are engaging in duels and their rotors are like swords.
L540[19:17:45] <Scolar_Visari> One gets a lot of bad science from most phys.org comments, but how often do you get bad history, too? https://phys.org/news/2018-02-humans-react-pretty-news-alien.html
L541[19:19:28] <Draconiator> Would background radiation set off a geiger counter even a little?
L542[19:20:14] <Scolar_Visari> "We shouldn't believe every study just because it's "science". For example Orson Welles caused a nationwide panic with his broadcast of "War of the Worlds" ."
L543[19:21:03] * Scolar_Visari coughs at the mention of the famous 1938 War of the Worlds broadcast myth.
L544[19:27:22] <Scolar_Visari> Also: If a person is attempting to compare Amerindian and European exchanges to human contact with extra terrestrial, the odds are high that they don't have a strong historical understanding of the former and physical constraints of the latter.
L545[19:28:48] * Scolar_Visari glares at Old Stephen Hawking.
L546[19:31:28] <Scolar_Visari> https://snag.gy/Vbpvqj.jpg
L547[19:33:47] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm . . . Thargoids should be in the Bubble next week.
L548[19:37:48] * Scolar_Visari ponders Thargoids attacking a Hawking memorial.
L549[19:40:08] * Scolar_Visari goes off to lure Thargoids into attacking Archenar
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L556[20:38:35] <UmbralRaptor> Draconiator: if the counter is sufficiently sensitive, it will detect the background, yes.
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L564[22:00:06] <taniwha> http://taniwha.org/~bill/screenshot4229.png
L565[22:00:51] <TheKosmonaut> "Yo, I heard you like docking hubs"
L566[22:13:14] <taniwha> time to sue Probodobodyne for false advertising. They say the OX-STAT-XL has the cost and mass "benefits" of a static panel
L567[22:13:43] <taniwha> however, the one-shot folding panels are cheaper and lighter!
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L569[22:16:17] <taniwha> well, ok, the XL is cheaper per EC produced, but still more massive
L570[22:18:12] <taniwha> folding: 10.9kg/uEC, 237.5f/uEC; ox-stat: 16.6kg/uEC, 250f/uEC; ox-stat-xl: 14.3kg/uEC, 214.3f/uEC
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L573[22:33:39] <ConductorCat> :3
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L575[22:52:11] <taniwha> http://taniwha.org/~bill/screenshot4230.png
L576[22:52:16] <taniwha> successful station surgery
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L578[23:10:31] <Einarr> But...WHY?
L579[23:10:55] <Einarr> A few of those new docking ports are likely to be useless...
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L582[23:17:34] <taniwha> Einarr: scrap metal storage
L583[23:17:41] <taniwha> and the ports aren't all that likely to be uselss
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L591[23:59:23] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfdcEKMGOsc
L592[23:59:23] <kmath> YouTube - 5 Photos from Space that have NEVER been Identified
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