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L12[01:03:36] <diveyez> Hey what is that mod that allows a player to setup a secod computer as a hud and such?
L13[01:04:32] <taniwha> krpc or something like that
L14[01:06:00] <diveyez> Its not that one
L15[01:06:10] <diveyez> I remember using it in 2015 and 2016
L16[01:06:35] <taniwha> konrad?
L17[01:06:36] <diveyez> This was just for information display
L18[01:06:50] <diveyez> telemachus is it
L19[01:06:52] <diveyez> Yes thanks
L20[01:07:01] <taniwha> ah, yes
L21[01:07:06] <taniwha> sorry, I'd forgotten, too
L22[01:07:31] <diveyez> Yeah, I have a windows surface and a few raspberry pi's
L23[01:07:40] <diveyez> Figure I can get use out of one of them with telemachus
L24[01:07:47] <diveyez> Or all of them XD
L25[01:11:38] <diveyez> https://github.com/chrisnic/mkon
L26[01:11:41] <diveyez> Check this out
L27[01:11:49] <diveyez> I wonder if there is a better front end
L28[01:12:06] <diveyez> Having the windows surface as a touchscreen hud would be realistic kek
L29[01:14:21] <taniwha> nice
L30[01:14:28] <taniwha> such would be good for cinematics
L31[01:20:25] <diveyez> Yeah
L32[01:20:45] <diveyez> There is no plugin folder in the current release so I dont know how to install mkon properly
L33[01:21:19] <diveyez> My bad I downloaded source (Dev Habit)
L34[01:27:18] <diveyez> Testing
L35[01:27:38] <diveyez> taniwha: I will let you know if it works since it hasnt been updated recently, perhaps I can fork and fix it
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L40[01:34:49] <diveyez> Game crash, crapo
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L42[01:37:41] <diveyez> The window reflection mod caused it
L43[01:37:44] <diveyez> Herh
L44[01:38:05] <diveyez> "Window Shine"
L45[01:39:02] <Althego> hehe
L46[01:44:59] <diveyez> Hmm, now it crashes at mercury parachute box
L47[01:45:05] <diveyez> Anyone know why it would do that?
L48[01:47:47] <diveyez> Dang, I like fasa
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L50[01:54:33] <diveyez> It was FASA Mercury Parachute box, no idea why that one part broke it.
L51[01:54:41] <diveyez> Might have to sort that, I like that mod
L52[01:54:46] <taniwha> diveyez: you running 32-bit instead of 64-bit?
L53[01:54:53] <diveyez> OFC not
L54[01:55:09] <taniwha> 1.2 mod in 1.3?
L55[01:55:12] <diveyez> Im trying to setup a mod pack for me and a few friends to play DMP
L56[01:55:14] <diveyez> No
L57[01:55:23] <taniwha> then I don't know
L58[01:55:30] <diveyez> Its just that Mercury Parachute Box
L59[01:55:37] <diveyez> It worked last week \o/
L60[01:55:43] <taniwha> :/
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L62[01:58:45] <diveyez> Surface Experiments Gofclub crashed it this time
L63[01:59:02] <diveyez> I wonder if I updated those recently,hmmm
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L66[02:02:28] <Althego> hehe, wait for the making history expansion, there will be a parachute
L67[02:04:29] <diveyez> Lol
L68[02:04:43] <diveyez> Who needs parachuted when you have SpaceX
L69[02:05:08] <diveyez> Random stuff is crashing the load now, this is weird, never have I seen such random crash
L70[02:05:08] <Althego> parachute for kerbals
L71[02:05:16] <diveyez> Oh, That is cool
L72[02:05:22] <taniwha> Althego: give Elon time ;)
L73[02:05:30] <Althego> for what
L74[02:05:42] <diveyez> StarMan hypersonic parachutes
L75[02:05:43] <Althego> to make kerbal parachutes? we dont ned elon for that
L76[02:06:03] <taniwha> to give EVA humans powered landings
L77[02:06:42] <Althego> hehe
L78[02:07:01] <Althego> let's start with a powered exoskeleton first, then we can add rockets to that later
L79[02:07:11] <Althego> because having starship troopers is cool
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L81[02:07:57] <Gasher[work]> Althego, like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2PuYXQ--4Q
L82[02:07:57] <kmath> YouTube - Mini jet engines power this flight suit
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L84[02:08:54] <Althego> tyes, it is more or less iron man inspired, the guty even talked about it that he could control it exactly the way tony did in the movie
L85[02:09:24] <Althego> what he assumed that it was cgi, but in reality he was standing on surfaces held up by wires, so that is why it was so realistic in the movie
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L87[02:10:04] <Gasher[work]> it looks very stupid to me
L88[02:10:33] <Gasher[work]> like, controlling jets with hands - you should use automatic controls for that
L89[02:10:39] <Gasher[work]> at least for stabilisation
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L92[02:12:11] <Althego> yes people still ride bikes
L93[02:12:17] <Althego> *yet
L94[02:12:24] <Althego> it is equally stupid
L95[02:12:28] <Althego> and they dont even fly
L96[02:13:12] <Gasher[work]> that's the exact point - when you lose control you have at least some chances
L97[02:13:14] <taniwha> bikes are weirdly stable when moving (you don't notice the feedback loop)
L98[02:13:58] <Gasher[work]> lol
L99[02:14:42] <Gasher[work]> taniwha, i was thinking sometimes how fast you should go on bike to have its gyroscope effect of the wheels to counteract say, a hit on the wheel's axis by a small tree
L100[02:15:13] <Althego> there are other effect
L101[02:15:14] <Althego> s
L102[02:15:33] <Althego> at least the bicycle stability is not explained completely by the gyroscope of the wheels
L103[02:15:34] <taniwha> it's more that you can shift the position of the wheels below your com
L104[02:15:49] <taniwha> very quickly
L105[02:16:11] <taniwha> or maybe it's the steering forces
L106[02:16:21] <taniwha> but yeah, it's more than gyroscopic
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L108[02:17:52] <Althego> https://www.nature.com/news/the-bicycle-problem-that-nearly-broke-mathematics-1.20281
L109[02:17:57] <Althego> i think i need to read this now
L110[02:18:22] <diveyez> KerbalKrashSystems or Telemachus broke it, it works now.
L111[02:18:38] <taniwha> probably KKS
L112[02:18:48] <taniwha> I know it caused me some trouble when I last tried it
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L118[02:58:38] <Gasher[work]> this time the klaw worked https://i.imgur.com/gtphQi1.png
L119[02:58:50] <Gasher[work]> i don't know if the aircraft would though
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L121[03:07:29] <Gasher[work]> it flies! https://i.imgur.com/ml7shod.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EOFhPbo.jpg
L122[03:09:57] <Gasher[work]> hm, looks like the asteroid was a bit off, i should have unlocked pivot before taking off and ensure that it was in the center
L123[03:23:11] <Gasher[work]> hm, can you roll asteroid over KSC to harvest science?
L124[03:25:56] <taniwha> in theory
L125[03:26:11] <Gasher[work]> i need a bulldozer
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L130[03:34:58] <Mat2ch> uh, how does that work?
L131[03:35:16] <Mat2ch> Analyzing an asteroid in different biomes gives different science points?
L132[03:36:36] <Gasher[work]> in different biomes
L133[03:37:19] <Althego> does it have any science at all?
L134[03:37:28] <Althego> i used to try to science them but htey never did anything
L135[03:37:42] <Gasher[work]> https://i.imgur.com/tYBBhwI.jpg
L136[03:38:08] <Gasher[work]> https://i.imgur.com/L06NKtX.jpg
L137[03:38:11] <Gasher[work]> Althego,
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L140[03:39:36] <Mat2ch> ok, next time I start a career I'm not mining Minmus and Mun but asteroids for max science points ;P
L141[03:39:51] <Gasher[work]> when it was collected first time https://i.imgur.com/lWrlBYb.png
L142[03:40:19] <Althego> this is funny
L143[03:40:26] <Gasher[work]> unfortunately ther fuel left in the asteroid lifter is left for only a few rides in KSC
L144[03:40:43] <Althego> a game where you roll your asteroid around ksc to generate science
L145[03:41:03] <Althego> try using electric cars
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L147[03:41:11] <Gasher[work]> i'd call that a dozer
L148[03:41:48] <Gasher[work]> that plane can lift that asteroid and if the surface is flat it can detach it and then grab it back
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L150[03:44:02] <Gasher[work]> https://i.imgur.com/DK1Kvdc.png recovering
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L153[04:13:00] <Einarr> taniwha: You around?
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L156[04:28:20] <taniwha> Einarr: yes
L157[04:30:13] <Einarr> Can EPL continue building things if the vessel a 'pad' is in is not in focus?
L158[04:30:33] <taniwha> yes
L159[04:30:45] <Einarr> Oh, good.
L160[04:30:47] <taniwha> sort of (it plays catch up)
L161[04:31:28] <Einarr> Might be close enough.
L162[04:31:42] <taniwha> usually is
L163[04:32:36] <taniwha> the problem is when you have insufficient storage for rocket parts, but sufficient resources to make rocketparts: catching up doesn't work too well
L164[04:32:56] <taniwha> (unless you visit frequently enough)
L165[04:33:18] <Einarr> I always hated Kethane back in the day for the simple fact that I had to leave KSP running to complete a scan of a body...and therefore not really be able to do anything else (hardware limitations).
L166[04:33:44] <taniwha> something I plan on fixing someday
L167[04:33:53] <taniwha> easier said than done, though :(
L168[04:33:59] <Einarr> So it still has that issue. :/
L169[04:34:07] <taniwha> sadly, yes
L170[04:34:21] <Einarr> IIRC, ScanSat also had that issue when it first appeared.
L171[04:34:31] <Einarr> They have since resolved it.
L172[04:34:40] <taniwha> I need to do something for electric charge, then I can have it actually run in the background
L173[04:35:01] <Einarr> Might be worth checking into, assuming you get up enough enthusiasm for it...
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L175[04:35:38] <Einarr> IIRC, Squad needs to fix a big with EC and high timewarp...
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L177[04:35:51] <Einarr> And has needed to do so for several versions now...
L178[04:35:51] <taniwha> Squad needs to fix many things
L179[04:36:29] * Einarr misses Lagrange points...
L180[04:36:41] <Einarr> I used to play Orbiter a ton back in the day...
L181[04:37:04] <Einarr> Proper n body physics allows for awesome things.
L182[04:37:13] <taniwha> there's a mod for that
L183[04:37:22] <taniwha> principia
L184[04:41:32] <Einarr> I have doubts about that working well.
L185[04:41:46] <Einarr> It's usually better if the engine is designed for it from the outset.
L186[04:42:07] <Einarr> Rather than relying on a hackjob to add it.
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L193[05:32:54] <APlayer> Good morning, Kerbonauts and others!
L194[05:33:01] <darsie> .
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L197[05:41:10] <taniwha> hi, APlayer
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L200[05:52:06] <Althego> https://i.imgur.com/ydSsde9.jpg
L201[05:58:31] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/16ff6c20b075803c1d7a9da11f283584/tumblr_nlftkn04821r4yoafo1_250.png
L202[05:59:57] <APlayer> Althego: Your posting you're pictures?
L203[06:00:31] <Althego> what?
L204[06:00:40] <APlayer> Their nice! :P
L205[06:00:43] <Althego> you mean am i the werewolf?
L206[06:00:48] <Althego> or did i draw it?
L207[06:00:53] <APlayer> Uh, no
L208[06:00:55] <Althego> no
L209[06:01:06] <APlayer> The spelling of my messages matters
L210[06:01:18] <taniwha> 'e's swappin' all 'is 's
L211[06:01:45] <ve2dmn> Your joking
L212[06:01:46] <Althego> ah so it was a jooke
L213[06:02:16] <Althego> too common mistake to do anything with it, although i noticed it
L214[06:02:19] <ve2dmn> anyone remember with the minimum 'safe' altitude above Gilly is?
L215[06:02:29] <Fluburtur> 1
L216[06:02:38] <APlayer> ve2dmn: 0. You don't fall there
L217[06:03:06] <Althego> hehe
L218[06:03:11] <APlayer> And if you do, a small puff of RCS and you're flying back to Eve
L219[06:03:18] <Althego> you mean zero radalt
L220[06:03:20] <ve2dmn> I don't want the satelitte to 'despawn' while I'm away
L221[06:03:38] <Althego> then take a 20 km orbit that should be safe
L222[06:03:48] <Althego> required speed is so small it doesnt matter
L223[06:04:07] <ve2dmn> 10km is still considered 'in space high above gilly'
L224[06:04:11] <APlayer> How high can a Kerbal jump on Eve?
L225[06:04:31] <Althego> how mnny kerbals can fir into a capsule
L226[06:04:48] <APlayer> Depends of the capsule
L227[06:05:26] <Althego> i mean it is the same kind of question like how many angels can fit onto a tip of needle
L228[06:05:43] <APlayer> Sorry?
L229[06:06:26] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F
L230[06:06:33] <taniwha> Althego: are they clowns?
L231[06:06:38] <Althego> hehe
L232[06:06:41] <Fluburtur> I was talking with some guys in a rc discord server and now we want to make some sort of rc airplane laser tag
L233[06:06:58] <Althego> hehe
L234[06:07:03] <Althego> sounds cool
L235[06:07:07] <Fluburtur> yeah
L236[06:07:18] <Fluburtur> I would like to see two teams of WWII airplanes with this system
L237[06:07:20] <Althego> probably easier with quadcopters
L238[06:07:22] <Fluburtur> fighting each other
L239[06:07:25] <Fluburtur> no
L240[06:07:26] <Fluburtur> planes
L241[06:07:46] <darsie> ve2dmn: When I'm landed on Gilly I'm still pretty far above the surface in the map.
L242[06:08:07] <APlayer> Fluburtur: So we had to come up with a project for school
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L244[06:08:28] <ve2dmn> According to the wiki, the high limit is 6k
L245[06:08:53] <ve2dmn> I can't find the info on the highest peak though
L246[06:08:55] <APlayer> We considered building a railgun. Then we dismissed it. We also considered lots of other things, but we settled on a drone. Current plan is, I think, putting a railgun on the drone
L247[06:09:44] <APlayer> If the motors permit it, I fear this is only half-joke
L248[06:10:02] <Fluburtur> well your current plan won't be able to carry much weight
L249[06:10:13] <APlayer> 100 grams or so are available
L250[06:10:50] <APlayer> If we make the railgun detachable and opt for a less maneuverable drone when it is attached, 150 grams are doable
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L252[06:11:57] <APlayer> And, I mean, it certainly would be fun :D
L253[06:13:04] <Fluburtur> oh yeah would be
L254[06:13:18] <ve2dmn> ok, so the highest peak on gilly is 6400... but to be considered not 'high' the limit is 6k...
L255[06:13:31] <ve2dmn> and you cant warp below 8k
L256[06:13:39] <ve2dmn> this is gonna be 'fun'
L257[06:14:09] <APlayer> Can avoid the highest peaks in your orbit
L258[06:14:37] <APlayer> Worst case, elliptic, inclined, synchronous orbit to pass low above the same spots
L259[06:15:01] <ve2dmn> I'm mostly looking for gravity scans of the biomes...
L260[06:15:22] <ve2dmn> so 1 pass of each and I'll put the thing back in a 10km orbit...
L261[06:15:50] <APlayer> Then I suggest the latter option of mine
L262[06:16:14] <ve2dmn> still got 1.5km/s of dv. I could land in each biome....
L263[06:16:42] <bees> do you mean "touch each biome"?
L264[06:16:44] <APlayer> Well, then I suggest a polar, circular 7 km orbit and dropping the PE occasionally
L265[06:16:53] <bees> because for landing you kinda need gravity
L266[06:17:22] <taniwha> gilly has gravity
L267[06:17:27] <taniwha> not a lot, but it's there
L268[06:17:33] <ve2dmn> Everything has gravity
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L270[06:18:31] <ve2dmn> right now, my biggest issue is lack of warp...
L271[06:19:53] * APlayer gives ve2dmn bubble wrap
L272[06:20:42] <bees> taniwha: fake gravity
L273[06:22:58] <ve2dmn> bees: I shall touch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gkhol2Q1og
L274[06:22:58] <kmath> YouTube - Daft Punk - Touch (Official Audio) ft. Paul Williams
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L276[06:37:02] <darsie> ve2dmn: You can warp in the tracking station.
L277[06:37:04] <Fluburtur> uh I still don't have the battery for my helicopter
L278[06:37:11] <Fluburtur> I was expecting to get it today
L279[06:37:44] <darsie> ve2dmn: Can't use kerbnet there, though.
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L284[07:34:22] <APlayer> Fluburtur: Alright, I did some quick estimates, looks like there shall be no flying railguns for now
L285[07:35:57] <Fluburtur> heh
L286[07:36:00] <APlayer> Cannot use magnets to increase the strength because they weigh too much and would also throw off the electronics, and if I don't use extra magnets, I need currents on the order of a few 100 amps
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L288[07:37:12] <APlayer> The second option could perhaps be doable with a few supercaps, but I'm afraid there are no electronic switches able to withstand that
L289[07:38:11] <taniwha> multiple in parallel
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L291[07:38:32] <APlayer> Multiple means how many?
L292[07:39:01] <taniwha> max / dev-max
L293[07:39:21] <taniwha> also, time is a factor
L294[07:39:40] <APlayer> Time for what?
L295[07:39:57] <taniwha> most device current ratings are for continuous current (though many devices might specify current/time curves)
L296[07:40:08] <taniwha> how long the current is flowing
L297[07:40:13] <taniwha> and for voltage: series
L298[07:40:36] <APlayer> Well, I have not made estimates for how much time one firing would take, but likely less than half a second
L299[07:40:53] <APlayer> Voltage would be manageable
L300[07:41:14] <APlayer> Can't generate more than 25 or so volts in-flight
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L303[07:42:03] <APlayer> Except if we mount a supply just for that or pre-charge the caps, but I don't think we are doing either
L304[07:42:08] <taniwha> check out boost converters :)
L305[07:42:16] <APlayer> I am checking them out
L306[07:42:24] <taniwha> they can be /very/ light
L307[07:42:31] <APlayer> 25 is as high as I am going
L308[07:42:42] <taniwha> especially if they don't need to supply much current
L309[07:43:06] <taniwha> 25V will be hard-pressed getting you 100A though an inductor
L310[07:43:18] <taniwha> (your electro-magnet)
L311[07:43:27] <taniwha> V=dI/dt
L312[07:43:36] <taniwha> er, V=L*dI/dt
L313[07:44:24] <APlayer> https://www.pololu.com/product/799 I could perhaps even take two of those and mount them in parallel for 50 V, but that's really the limit
L314[07:44:35] <APlayer> In series, that is
L315[07:44:43] <taniwha> design your own :)
L316[07:44:57] <taniwha> easy enough to get 100s-1000s of V
L317[07:45:16] <APlayer> Well, that would certainly be beyond the scope of this project, LOL
L318[07:45:46] <taniwha> they're not that difficult
L319[07:45:55] <Draconiator> What are you trying to do, Player?
L320[07:46:16] <APlayer> You sure are eager to see this done, aren't you?
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L322[07:46:48] <APlayer> Draconiator: Making a drone for a school project, had the stupidity to publicly joke about mounting a railgun on it :P
L323[07:47:03] <taniwha> aw, no credit for finding a ground station :(
L324[07:50:47] <Althego> a very small railgun
L325[07:50:54] <Althego> there must be a limit where it is legal
L326[07:51:01] <Althego> especially in the usa
L327[07:57:27] <Althego> doese scott have a teleprompter? or is it just good editing?
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L331[08:12:19] <APlayer> taniwha: So, I just fired up falstad and tried to make a high voltage supply. I cannot really control it. I change a number, which should not affect the thing it does affect, by a little bit and the voltage gets a few 100 V higher. Or lower. I'd kill someone or at least something with high voltage if I built a regulator myself
L332[08:13:13] <taniwha> APlayer: so poke at it until you understand how things interact
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L334[08:13:49] <GurrenLagannCWP> Hi
L335[08:13:50] <Mod9000> Hello, GurrenLagannCWP
L336[08:14:21] <APlayer> That's getting way beyond the scope of what I'd do
L337[08:14:31] <APlayer> Definitely not an option
L338[08:14:36] <Althego> https://fat.gfycat.com/SickWhimsicalAlaskankleekai.mp4
L339[08:19:19] <APlayer> taniwha: With 50 v I am getting an exit velocity estimate of 2 m/s, which is actually enough, I guess
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L341[08:19:41] <taniwha> yeah, don't want too high
L342[08:19:54] <taniwha> don't want to cause injuries
L343[08:20:17] <APlayer> And currents of 500 Amps
L344[08:20:27] <APlayer> So much for injuries
L345[08:20:34] <taniwha> low inductance?
L346[08:20:42] <APlayer> Low resistance, more like
L347[08:21:05] <taniwha> inductance (L) determines how long it takes to get to max current
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L349[08:21:19] <APlayer> Did not account for that, even
L350[08:21:25] <taniwha> dI/dt = V/L
L351[08:22:27] <APlayer> I am making guesstimates on the resistance of the circuit and ignoring the inductance because I have no sensible numbers
L352[08:25:18] <APlayer> Resistance might be 0.1 ohms, because there is not much stuff. The biggest resistance would be that between the rails and the projectile, but I still think it would be quite low if I took a piece of aluminium foil that slightly presses against the rails
L353[08:25:31] <Althego> resistance is futile :)
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L355[08:25:59] <taniwha> voltage over current is futile :P
L356[08:26:19] <Althego> what is the unit of resistance? partisan per square mater
L357[08:26:21] <taniwha> futility is current under voltage
L358[08:26:30] <Althego> *meter
L359[08:26:32] <taniwha> hehe
L360[08:26:35] <Gasher> lol
L361[08:27:04] <Gasher> the more close to field unit of measure would be per square kilometer really
L362[08:27:19] <APlayer> I have a bad omen about those partisans?
L363[08:27:34] <Althego> yes, there would be almost always less than 1 for every square meter
L364[08:27:56] <Gasher> Althego, also there is a joke that if Newton stood on a square meter of area, he'd become Pascal
L365[08:28:05] <Althego> hehe
L366[08:28:11] <Gasher> Althego, unless it's death chamber lol
L367[08:28:46] <APlayer> taniwha: So, what might be the inductance of 10 cm of wire?
L368[08:29:00] <APlayer> Thick wire, even
L369[08:29:01] <taniwha> straight? pretty darn low
L370[08:29:14] <Althego> probably h as more to do with its shape
L371[08:29:21] <Gasher> of course lol
L372[08:29:24] <APlayer> Well, so there we go, low resistance and low inductance
L373[08:29:47] <taniwha> APlayer: do watch out for back voltage, though
L374[08:30:00] <APlayer> Back voltage?
L375[08:30:14] <taniwha> (ie, when you remove the voltage, the collapsing field will create a high voltage spike)
L376[08:30:21] <Gasher> makes a good physics exercise - calculate maximum possible inductance of 10cm of copper wire
L377[08:30:35] <Althego> and then measure it
L378[08:30:46] <Althego> find the reason for the difference
L379[08:30:58] <APlayer> taniwha: I would not suddenly remove the voltage
L380[08:31:02] <Gasher> i mean, of different form and diameter
L381[08:31:26] <GurrenLagannCWP> I'm gonna destroy the planet!
L382[08:31:48] <taniwha> APlayer: flicking a switch does just that
L383[08:32:02] <APlayer> I'd have capacitors that discharge comparatively slowly when firing, and when done firing the remaining voltage would just stay there
L384[08:32:21] <APlayer> GurrenLagannCWP: Pics or it didn't happen
L385[08:32:26] <taniwha> capacitor + inductor = oscillator :)
L386[08:32:45] <Althego> what do you do tonight? the same thing i do every night, i am gonna destroy the planet
L387[08:33:41] <Fluburtur> my grandma decided to put order in my room and now I can't find anything
L388[08:33:52] <Fluburtur> everything was exactly where it was supposed to be before
L389[08:33:54] <Althego> hehe
L390[08:34:12] <Althego> hah new wolfie video
L391[08:34:20] <Althego> less than an hour ago
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L394[08:46:39] <GurrenLagannCWP> makes a new craft
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L396[08:48:13] <taniwha> gurren lagann? that was a while ago
L397[08:48:30] <Althego> i actually intentionally skipped that
L398[08:48:49] <taniwha> it was pretty good, though
L399[08:49:13] <Althego> for most people haruhi was good too
L400[08:49:24] <taniwha> yeah, I enjoyed that, too
L401[08:49:47] <legion> i didn't like that one... (though i've read the manga only)
L402[08:50:02] <legion> currently watching Violet Evergarden
L403[08:50:11] <Althego> and i watched that so i could tell i watched it and can have an opinion on it (that yes, it was bad, and i would have slapped that girl sveral times)
L404[08:50:41] <Althego> unanomious youtube comment on violet evergarden: unlimited budget works
L405[08:50:57] <Althego> anonymous
L406[08:51:44] <legion> i say to that: i do not know about budgets for it, i just started watching on a whim and like dit.
L407[08:53:04] <Althego> based on the trailer it really looks good enough to warrant that comment
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L409[08:55:52] <legion> i didn't like it because of that. though it does look pretty. it is just very well written
L410[08:56:37] <taniwha> I think kekkaishi is my favorite
L411[08:56:38] <GurrenLagannCWP> When your name starts a conversation about anime
L412[08:56:47] <taniwha> (both watched the anime and read the manga)
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L414[08:58:02] <legion> i usually tend to favour manga over anime if i read th emanga before seeing/knowing the anime
L415[08:58:45] <Althego> manga takes less time and usually runs far longer
L416[08:59:34] <legion> and doesn't cut corners on story. (usually)
L417[09:01:24] <taniwha> the anime series ended a little differently to the manga (nothing major, just the anime had more Tokine time), but after that point, the manga was just wow
L418[09:02:19] <taniwha> need to read it again. both for the sake of reading it, and to get my japanese reading back up
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L420[09:08:19] <legion> dang. now i've got to wait another week for th enext episode...
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L423[09:13:11] <taniwha> heh
L424[09:14:06] <Althego> i was the watch it all in one sitting type
L425[09:14:27] <taniwha> I did that a lot.
L426[09:15:02] <Althego> i watched the last 96 episodes of kodomo no omochan uninterrupted :9
L427[09:15:12] <Althego> -n
L428[09:15:13] <legion> eek
L429[09:15:18] <taniwha> I'd been studying Japanese for a couple of years, then sat down and watched the first season of Slayers in one 11h marathon
L430[09:15:23] <Althego> (only 102 episodes long)
L431[09:15:23] <taniwha> raw :P
L432[09:15:46] <taniwha> at the beginning, couldn't even pick out words. at the end of the first episode, was getting little bits
L433[09:16:06] <taniwha> by the time Amelia showed up, I was getting some of the jokes
L434[09:16:35] <taniwha> during the last 6 episodes, I was understanding most of what was being said
L435[09:16:44] <Althego> nice progress
L436[09:16:44] <taniwha> or thought I was :P
L437[09:17:03] <taniwha> next day, watched season 2. same cycle, but a little faster
L438[09:17:11] <taniwha> next day, season 3: even faster
L439[09:17:46] <taniwha> then lost universe: couldn't finish the final episode: I was exhausted
L440[09:17:53] <taniwha> (finished it the next day)
L441[09:18:12] <taniwha> probably got 80+% of the story
L442[09:18:23] <legion> it's a shame there isn't more anime on Netflix...
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L444[09:20:55] <Althego> but since i downloaded ksp in 2014 it took too much time :)
L445[09:21:21] <taniwha> 2013 for me
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L451[09:43:33] <GurrenLagannCWP> I got a asteroid that almost got into orbit
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L453[09:44:07] <GurrenLagannCWP> Like really close, less than geostationary orbit close
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L455[09:45:13] <GurrenLagannCWP> I got a asteroid that almost got into orbit. Like really close, less than geostationary orbit close.
L456[09:45:45] <GurrenLagannCWP> mode/#KSPOfficial
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L458[09:55:15] <APlayer> Huh? Did I miss something regarding that last message?
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L460[10:00:26] <Draconiator> LOL, this is plain idiocy...
L461[10:00:27] <Draconiator> https://www.indy100.com/article/elon-musk-flat-earth-society-flatearth-mars-tweet-twitter-viral-conspiracy-theory-8084006
L462[10:02:46] <Althego> wasnt this like dunno weeks ago?
L463[10:03:05] <Althego> months eve
L464[10:03:07] <Althego> n
L465[10:04:21] <Althego> and flat earth society was always a troll, showing how little the average person knows when they cant argue why we know the earth is round
L466[10:04:42] <Althego> the new wave flat earthers on the other hand... at least some of them are serious
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L468[10:05:01] <Althego> dont you wisch nassault would still make ksp shorts?
L469[10:05:46] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtfnd7RpyAs
L470[10:05:46] <kmath> YouTube - KSP motorcar, overhauled
L471[10:06:24] <Althego> and i cant even make a working stock prop on my better days. this car has transmission and front wheel steering
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L475[10:21:01] <scrat9518> APlayer: I was reading your discussion about a drone-mounted railgun, and I am wondering: have you considered an elastic approach rather than an electromagnetic one?
L476[10:21:43] <scrat9518> Basically, you'd just set up some rubber bands behind servos and release them to fire.
L477[10:24:01] <Draconiator> nassault...my FAVORITE from him is titled "Jool"
L478[10:26:26] <Fluburtur> nassault makes cool stuff
L479[10:27:11] <APlayer> scrat9518: That might actually be an interesting idea. The railgun emerged from initially considering it as a standalone project and it kind of stuck. Not mounting a rubber band or spring based gun might be a fun idea to incorporate, if it works
L480[10:27:34] <APlayer> Now mounting*
L481[10:27:42] <Fluburtur> will flip your quad
L482[10:27:46] <Fluburtur> if enough recoil
L483[10:27:52] <Fluburtur> or at least push it backwards
L484[10:27:57] <APlayer> Not going to make such a strong gun
L485[10:28:16] <Fluburtur> I should open fusion and start making my BB machinegun thing for planes
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L487[10:29:06] <Draconiator> Ooooh, Manley narrated this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgIVnvunLuQ
L488[10:29:07] <kmath> YouTube - V O Y A G E R - The Interstellar Quest
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L492[10:37:59] <TheKosmonaut> Nassault... One of the better cinematic KSP types. It is too bad that he didn't do much after
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L495[10:43:21] <scrat9518> APlayer: I think it might be simpler because you wouldn't have to worry about EM interference from high currents. Just a thought.
L496[10:43:38] <APlayer> It would definitely be more doable
L497[10:44:08] <scrat9518> As for recoil, obviously that's unavoidable as the energy delivered to the payload increases. (You can blame Newton for that one.)
L498[10:44:21] <scrat9518> With a stable quadcopter, though, it may not matter.
L499[10:44:43] <Fluburtur> if you align the thing with the center of mass it should cancel any torque
L500[10:44:47] <Fluburtur> or just make it close enough
L501[10:44:50] <scrat9518> ^^^
L502[10:46:31] <Fluburtur> also idk how much power you can get out of a railgun
L503[10:46:44] <Fluburtur> a more regular coilgun will probably work better
L504[10:48:34] <APlayer> The thing is, no sort of weapon was really planned originally. We're still largely at the draft stage, so we can incorporate one now as a fun extra, though
L505[10:49:02] <APlayer> The supervising teacher would tell us to make it fly at all first, though
L506[10:49:42] <APlayer> Well, whatever. I'll mention it to my partner, we'll see if we like the idea and how feasible it is. Thank you for the suggestion!
L507[10:50:03] <APlayer> And I need to go, but be back soon. See you!
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L518[11:08:57] <APlayer> Back!
L519[11:10:00] <Althego> i wear em fron i wear am back...
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L522[11:32:48] <GurrenLagannCWP> https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/7xzic5/and_another_almost_gets_into_orbit/duci502/ dumbest comment ever
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L524[11:48:56] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/414115855962603520/DSC_6143.JPG
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L529[12:06:54] <APlayer> GurrenLagannCWP: Send another spacecraft to chase the asteroid?
L530[12:08:26] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch https://youtu.be/2xgWuw3TOJA
L531[12:08:27] <kmath> YouTube - CHANNEL UPDATE: Playing the Musical Saw & Beta-Testing Youtube Sponsorships
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L535[12:21:05] <scrat9518> Hey, are kmath missions still a thing on this server? The last time I was here, there was talk of retiring them because kmath was being abused.
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L537[12:24:57] <RefreshingJuices> Hello. I'm having issues downloading the game from the site. Might this be the place to ask for help?
L538[12:25:33] <Althego> haha no, mission was scrapped a long time ago
L539[12:25:38] <Althego> lot of people hated it
L540[12:26:34] <Mathuin> The mad-libs thing was a bit annoying when abused
L541[12:30:16] <scrat9518> Oh, that's a shame. When used sparingly, I thought it was kind of fun. I'll have to Google around for the source so I can have a laugh.
L542[12:31:45] <Deddly> Hi RefreshingJuices
L543[12:31:51] <RefreshingJuices> Hi
L544[12:31:54] <Mod9000> Hello, RefreshingJuices
L545[12:31:59] <Deddly> RefreshingJuices, where are you downloading it?
L546[12:32:14] <RefreshingJuices> https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/en/
L547[12:32:23] <RefreshingJuices> Or well, I hoped to
L548[12:32:37] <Deddly> RefreshingJuices, the store was down a little yesterday, but it's up again now. Have you bought it already?
L549[12:32:44] <RefreshingJuices> Hah I bought it 2011
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L551[12:32:52] <Deddly> Cool
L552[12:32:53] <RefreshingJuices> But yeah I'll try again
L553[12:33:13] <Deddly> You didn't happen to transfer to Steam, did you?
L554[12:33:35] <RefreshingJuices> Nope, I double checked and it's not in the steam list either
L555[12:33:49] <RefreshingJuices> The thing is. The store seems to have forgotten me. It says purchase rather than download
L556[12:34:08] <Deddly> RefreshingJuices, what happens when you try to log in?
L557[12:34:19] <RefreshingJuices> It says welcome back. I can click My account
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L559[12:34:45] <Deddly> RefreshingJuices, hmm
L560[12:34:48] <RefreshingJuices> Switching tabs logs me out
L561[12:34:56] <RefreshingJuices> But I actually managed to find this text now
L562[12:35:02] <RefreshingJuices> "The KSP Store is currently closed for business. In this page you can find the links for all our official re-sellers."
L563[12:35:11] <Deddly> ???
L564[12:35:22] <Deddly> That's very odd, and shouldn't be there
L565[12:35:41] <Deddly> Hold on
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L567[12:37:16] <Deddly> RefreshingJuices, getting that checked for you. One moment please
L568[12:37:33] <Deddly> Or, rather, Badie is checking it for you :)
L569[12:37:35] <RefreshingJuices> No worries I'll be patient
L570[12:46:12] <Deddly> RefreshingJuices, please could you open a ticket here? https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/en/?page_id=23
L571[12:46:33] <Deddly> RefreshingJuices, You can fill the contact form and they will take a look
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L573[12:52:56] <RefreshingJuices> Just one more question
L574[12:53:06] <RefreshingJuices> I'm supposed to log in and go into the store right?
L575[12:53:11] <RefreshingJuices> So I'm not actually being stupid on my own
L576[12:53:34] <Deddly> Let's see
L577[12:54:33] <Deddly> https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/en/ --> Store --> Log in --> My Account --> Download
L578[12:55:24] <RefreshingJuices> My account only goes back to the main page https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/en/
L579[12:55:34] <RefreshingJuices> Then I can click store again and I'm not logged in
L580[12:55:45] <Badie> Hi RefreshingJuices we are checking out what´s going on, thanks for your patience
L581[12:55:47] <RefreshingJuices> But that's nice to know where it's going wrong
L582[12:56:01] <RefreshingJuices> I'll submit a proper ticket now that that's done
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L584[13:01:22] <RefreshingJuices> Should be sent now. Thanks for the help
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L587[13:07:23] <Deddly> You're more than welcome, RefreshingJuices
L588[13:07:29] <Deddly> When was the last time you played?
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L590[13:12:27] <Deddly> Welcome back tawny
L591[13:20:25] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: what what what? A video on Friday? Woah!
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L595[13:50:12] <RefreshingJuices> Deddly: Probably like half a year ago
L596[13:50:19] <RefreshingJuices> Or at least months
L597[13:51:03] <Deddly> RefreshingJuices, cool, so you've been around for a while. Hopefully not too much catching up to do :)
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L599[13:52:35] <Althego> hah! bob is less than 1 day away from kerbin. out of fuel but will make it back from outside the kerbin soi and with all the minmus data
L600[13:53:12] <APlayer> Althego: Free return?
L601[13:53:21] <APlayer> Or pushing the ship?
L602[13:55:34] <Althego> i just needed a trajectory that ended up in the atmoshpere
L603[13:58:33] <Althego> because of this it took longer to come back, there was not enough to boost the return trip
L604[14:02:12] <Fluburtur> who wants to see my familly sorted by size
L605[14:03:36] <RefreshingJuices> A colleague was talking about buying the game. So I felt like playing it a bit again
L606[14:04:02] <RefreshingJuices> I always spend far too long between gos. So I always have to catch up with everything. Like getting to the mun
L607[14:04:50] <APlayer> RefreshingJuices: We are here to help you with your first steps! :D
L608[14:08:10] <RefreshingJuices> One thing I want to know the most though. Since I can't try for myself. Has RemoteTech fixed the automatic turning issue?
L609[14:08:36] <RefreshingJuices> I remember something about enabling control wheels got probes spinning out of control. It made aiming telescopes very hard
L610[14:09:19] <APlayer> I don't know of such an issue. Persistent Rotation used to have a similar one, but that was fixed a while ago
L611[14:10:32] <Althego> lol mission. put 850 ore units from duna to orbit of ike
L612[14:10:45] <Althego> i would normally mine that on ike if really have to
L613[14:11:05] <Althego> and the first duna probe will be on site in about 200 days
L614[14:11:44] <Althego> when the launch window is open. so if i start some kerbals at that time it will still take forever
L615[14:11:51] <Althego> and completely pointless
L616[14:12:23] <Althego> but almost 200k advance and 540 k on completion
L617[14:12:34] <Althego> maybe that 200k advance isnt worth it
L618[14:14:31] <RefreshingJuices> I'll just find out when I can download the game again
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L620[14:15:11] <Althego> the complete ground gravity and seismic measurements of the mun are still missing. maybe i just need to send 17 tiny probes in a shell there something
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L622[14:18:21] <APlayer> Althego: Rovers?
L623[14:18:37] <APlayer> One per three adjoining biomes is good
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L625[14:25:56] <Althego> that would take forever
L626[14:26:17] <Althego> most of the biomes are isolated, craters or basins or poles
L627[14:26:29] <APlayer> Then land probes on those
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L629[14:27:51] <Althego> which is the 17 probes approach, very expensive because of the sensors
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L631[14:28:22] <APlayer> But short-cut with rovers where multiple biomes adjoin
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L633[14:28:41] <Althego> and 10 times the ain
L634[14:28:43] <APlayer> Or biome hopping, but I never did this, so no useful advice
L635[14:28:46] <Althego> p+
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L651[16:08:34] <Guest10027> How do i get to other planets
L652[16:08:56] <Fluburtur> point rocket the right way and use thruster
L653[16:09:17] <Guest10027> Is it the same proceedure as mun landinh
L654[16:09:32] <Fluburtur> depends how well you do that
L655[16:09:42] <Fluburtur> but the whole transfer stuff is similar
L656[16:10:13] <Fluburtur> there is a trasnfer angle thingy on the internet that show where planets are supposed to be located for transfers
L657[16:10:39] <Guest10027> Oh really and you line them up
L658[16:11:25] <Fluburtur> http://i.imgur.com/ud5UMx3h.png
L659[16:11:32] <Fluburtur> there is a better one however
L660[16:11:35] <Fluburtur> easier to read
L661[16:13:27] <Guest10027> Thanks. So to get to duna for example you would presably wait until ypur at the right angle and create a manouver to dunas orbit
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L671[16:54:36] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/ff12ff5659310790b09bde1e346831c7/tumblr_nnkxt3VIXA1swct9io2_500.jpg
L672[16:57:24] <hoglahoo> I don’t get it
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L674[16:57:37] <Fluburtur> someone bricked a metro door in germany
L675[16:57:53] <hoglahoo> ok it has nothing to do with ksp then
L676[16:57:58] <hoglahoo> I was looking for jeb or something
L677[16:58:19] <Fluburtur> we don't always talk about ksp here
L678[16:58:39] <Fluburtur> we mostly talk about other stuff actually
L679[16:58:51] <Fluburtur> but it's often related to ksp in one way
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L698[19:39:38] <taniwha> I love the way jettisoned heat shields fly in far :)
L699[19:40:03] <TheKosmonaut> taniwha: so I'm getting a job here. That isn't teaching
L700[19:40:15] <taniwha> \o/
L701[19:40:27] <taniwha> I hope it all goes well
L702[19:40:42] <TheKosmonaut> Some one in Toride is looking for someone to work on cars and welding and such. I thought that would be really fun to go for
L703[19:40:53] <taniwha> wow, yeah
L704[19:40:55] <TheKosmonaut> That and welding is something I have wanted to learn
L705[19:41:26] <taniwha> I like that Japanese companies seem to be willing to do on-the-job training
L706[19:43:45] <TheKosmonaut> Yeah. I actually didn't think he'd even consider me, I just sent the CV in a wide bet
L707[19:44:04] <TheKosmonaut> Surprisingly, the job I'm least qualified for is the one that wants me
L708[19:45:56] <taniwha> much like my factory job
L709[19:46:15] <taniwha> sometimes miss it, actually (but not the commute! (nor the splinters))
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L711[19:54:39] <TheKosmonaut> You're full time in your dev stuff now huh
L712[19:54:44] <taniwha> yeah
L713[19:55:06] <TheKosmonaut> That commute must take forever. Like 1 minute from your room to your desk
L714[19:55:29] <taniwha> yeah, it's just horrible
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L719[20:21:04] <Draconiator> If Take Two screws up KSP I'm ....ugh....I don't know...
L720[20:32:40] <tawny> Take Two?
L721[20:35:28] <Alanonzander> New(ish) owners of Squad
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L723[20:37:50] <ConductorCat> Inb4 flights to Pandora.
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L725[20:41:51] <KrazyKrl> https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/297609294737624774/A1EBE0A2F7F2EAD4BBC3B78B4AE33FB2882A477E/
L726[20:41:52] <KrazyKrl> ?
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L729[21:18:17] <TheKosmonaut> Draconiator: speaking as someone quite skeptical about T2 , they haven't done anything so far
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L742[23:07:00] <Draconiator> 3rd Iteration of the Drone Explorer - testing the reactor cooling https://gyazo.com/870c672df1ebc72b95f57f30e06aaf28
L743[23:14:18] <cringe> ISS Urine Tank Level: 9%
L744[23:14:33] <kuzetsa> O.o
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L747[23:25:32] <Draconiator> He's one of those people who get turned on by that kinda thing. Don't ask.
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L755[23:45:11] <Einarr> Draconiator: What engine/fuel you using on that?
L756[23:51:43] <Althego> ksp 40% off on gog, still 24 eur
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L758[23:54:25] <Draconiator> Argon, Einar
L759[23:55:05] <Draconiator> and it's a Pulsed Inductive Thruster called an "Induction"
L760[23:55:15] <Draconiator> er
L761[23:55:19] <Draconiator> "Inductor"
L762[23:56:20] <Einarr> Ah, I don't use the Pulsed Inductive.
L763[23:57:00] <Einarr> I'm designing a Grand Tour Ship to be built in LKO (with EL).
L764[23:57:25] <Einarr> Going to have to use Magnetoplasma thrusters, though. :/
L765[23:57:57] <Einarr> Wanted to use the VASIMRs, but can't find a way to reliably replenish Argon/Xenon away from Kerbin.
L766[23:58:27] <Einarr> Still trying to decide what thrusters my various landers will use.
L767[23:58:58] <Einarr> I'm going to have 2 unmanned miners to get Ore, and 1 manned for flag planting.
L768[23:59:42] <Einarr> Plus a reusable satelite for scanning for Ore deposits and doing the ScanSat thing.
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