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L1[00:00:52] <iplop> "While upper stage
flight is continued, during the transfer burn to solar orbit, the
second stage overshot the orbit of Mars. It is predicted that the
Roadster will stay in an orbit with a perihelion at Earth orbit and
an aphelion near the orbit of the dwarf planet Ceres in
the Asteroid Belt." -wikipedia
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L7[00:24:03] <taniwha> iplop: the plan was
to be in solar orbit for up to billions of years
L8[00:24:16] <taniwha> which means Mars was
never the target
L9[00:24:50] <KrazyKrl> The objective was
practically as high of an altitude as possible.
L11[00:27:45] <kmath> YouTube - FALCON
HEAVY LANDING 02/06/2018
L12[00:28:24] <Althego> triple sonic
booms
L13[00:28:30] <Althego> not double
L14[00:28:47] <taniwha> ergZay: no, far far
better than KSP
L15[00:29:06] <ergZay> Althego: double as
in two rockets
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L18[00:31:04] <Althego> double
ttriple
L19[00:31:10] <taniwha> no, just
double
L20[00:31:14] <taniwha> (x2)
L22[00:31:26] <kmath> YouTube - The
Incredible Sounds of the Falcon Heavy Launch (BINAURAL AUDIO
IMMERSION) - Smarter Every Day 189
L23[00:31:27] <taniwha> the other roar is
the engine
L24[00:31:39] <Althego> listen to
this
L25[00:31:45] <Althego> it is also
explained why it is triple for each rocket
L26[00:35:41] <Althego> at least it
explained the triple yesterday
L27[00:35:49] <Althego> now i dont find
it
L28[00:36:05] <Althego> ah after 5:30
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L30[00:48:11] <taniwha> Althego: no point
in arguing about what's heard from different perspectives
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L33[00:52:21] <taniwha> Althego: however,
thank you
L34[00:53:43] <taniwha> Althego: actually,
with headphones, I do hear boom-baboom twice
L35[00:53:59] <taniwha> (on the first
vid)
L36[01:05:39] <taniwha> ok, it sounds like
FH over performed in that aphelion is higher than expected
L37[01:05:57] <Althego> yes, it almost
reches the orbit of ceres
L38[01:06:12] <Althego> i would like to see
what happened to the center core
L39[01:06:12] <taniwha> fastest Tesla in
the world ;)
L40[01:08:24] <Althego> along with the musk
jokes where he doesnt find his car
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L42[01:10:02] <Althego> ultimately the car
will be perturbed by jupiter and either fall into the sun or
ejected from the solar system
L43[01:12:16] <taniwha> hopefully the
latter
L44[01:12:20] <taniwha> better
mileage
L45[01:18:50] <Althego> and be an oumuamua
somewhere else
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L66[03:25:45] <TheKosmonaut> taniwha:
fastest car :)
L67[03:25:52] <TheKosmonaut> Er
L69[03:36:16] <kmath> YouTube - Rocket
Igniters Burning In Slow Motion - Most Beautiful Thing Ever in
4K
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L71[03:41:25] <Deddly> Nice
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L73[03:45:16] <Deddly> I wouldn't mind the
entire sequence in slow motion as a screensaver
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L116[08:33:36] <ve2dmn> Draconiator: I
like Elon, but the boring company is not a good solution *IF* they
do what they are planning
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L119[08:38:11] <darsie> They can bore
habitats on Mars.
L120[08:43:12] <RandomJeb> when is spaceX
starting construction on orbital rings and space elevators attached
to them?
L121[08:44:04] <RandomJeb> I mean if
they're going to colonize mars you've gotta start with mass transit
from earth to LEO, need a lot of people for the colonies
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L123[09:00:29] <ve2dmn> The holes are not
the issue... The usage is
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L140[09:44:07] <dr-phibes> hello!
L141[09:46:12] <dr-phibes> oh, goodbye
then...
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L145[09:55:23] <Eddi|zuHause> RandomJeb:
but with the amount of time and money you need to build a space
elevator for significant payloads, how many mars missions can you
run with conventional rockets?
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L147[09:57:06] <Eddi|zuHause> also, am i
playing too easy difficulty? in civ6 i'm always much closer to
tourist victory than to space program victory
L148[09:57:24] <Sarbian> And you needs
materials we do not currently build in required
length/quantity
L149[09:58:21] <APlayer> The point is, we
/do/ currently build them. It's a matter of time from now on.
L150[10:01:51] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm fairly
convinced we could develop those materials if we focused hard on
it
L151[10:02:40] <Eddi|zuHause> but focus
means you leave other things unsolved
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L156[10:13:17] <ve2dmn> I had an
interesting discussion yesterday with someone who wants Elon Musk
to fail.
L157[10:24:25] <darsie> We could build a
space elevator with current materials with enough taper.
L158[10:24:40] <darsie> 1:6000 or so,
IIRC.
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L160[10:24:54] <ve2dmn> the logistics of
such a thing would be... impressive
L161[10:25:25] <darsie> We'd probably make
a thin one to bootstrap itself.
L162[10:25:50] <darsie> Still no simple
thing.
L163[10:25:57] <ve2dmn> It has to be
protected against accidents, against bad weather, against too much
displacements, etc...
L164[10:26:06] <darsie> And avoid
satellite and space junk collisions ...
L165[10:26:45] <darsie> A launch loop is
probably better.
L166[10:26:59] <ve2dmn> Mass Driver?
L167[10:27:11] <darsie> That's another
optio.n
L168[10:27:30] <darsie> at 30 km on
balloons
L169[10:27:54] <darsie> Human rating is
yet another thing.
L170[10:28:01] <ve2dmn> I think all these
things would be much easier to do directly on the moon
L171[10:28:05] <ve2dmn> like ISRU
L172[10:28:18] <darsie> Yeah, but if many
want to go to Mars ...
L173[10:28:19] <ve2dmn> Make sat on the
moon, launch from there
L174[10:28:57] <ve2dmn> Then make
everything in orbit and launch only the supplies and people?
L175[10:30:20] <darsie> Or make a mass
driver on 100 km inflatable structures.
L176[10:30:37] <darsie> Artificial
mountains.
L177[10:30:48] <ve2dmn> I still it would
be easier to build stuff on the moon
L178[10:31:02] <ve2dmn> I still think
*
L179[10:31:04] <darsie> Or on Mars.
L180[10:31:27] <ve2dmn> Yes. Send crappy
factories
L181[10:31:32] <ve2dmn> And supplie the
rest
L182[10:31:41] <darsie> Make self
replicating machines to build stuff.
L183[10:31:41] <ve2dmn> Be as
self-sufficient as possible
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L185[10:31:54] <ve2dmn> Grey-goo
Mars?
L186[10:32:02] <darsie> no,
macroscopic.
L187[10:33:20] <darsie> Wheels, drills,
refineries, ...
L188[10:44:21] <RandomJeb> <Sarbian>
And you needs materials we do not currently build in required
length/quantity <--- with an orbital ring you can use regular
old iron, no problem building required lenghts and quantities
L189[10:45:44] <Sarbian> Iron ? For a 35
700 km elevator ?
L190[10:45:55] <RandomJeb> why would you
want that long an elevator?
L191[10:45:59] <RandomJeb> you just need
it to go up to the ring
L192[10:46:09] <RandomJeb> the ring can be
parked very close to the atmosphere
L193[10:46:24] <Sarbian> Explain how it
stays in position if the top is not geostationary
L194[10:46:37] <ve2dmn> 'magic'
L195[10:46:41] <Sarbian> that
L197[10:47:34] <RandomJeb> the orbital
ring is not geostationary
L198[10:47:40] <RandomJeb> but the hoops
you thread that ring through are
L199[10:48:19] <RandomJeb> those are
connected to the ground with launch loops
L200[10:48:20] <Sarbian> Oh right, an
elevator was too easy
L201[10:50:04] <RandomJeb> or at least
something similar to launch loops but not necessarily of a
'standard' structure, you don't need much of a launch track
L202[10:51:16] <Sarbian> Great idea. This
give me the perfect excuses for what I planned to do tonight.
L203[10:52:10] <Sarbian> I ll now leave
will go drink to the success of your projects
L204[10:52:21] <Sarbian> err, I ll now
leave AND will go drink to the success of your projects
L205[10:54:31] <RandomJeb> good
times
L206[10:55:10] <Eddi|zuHause> i think we
need some resistant algae-type organisms on mars and then wait a
hundred years or two
L207[10:55:30] <RandomJeb> all I need is a
few thousand megatons of iron in low earth orbit and a few fleets
of orbital habitats full of qualified space engineers
L208[10:55:50] <Eddi|zuHause> replenish
the atmosphere faster than it can evaporate from solar wind
L209[10:55:52] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: you
would also need some shielding for the Hunams
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L211[10:58:33] <darsie42> hi
L212[10:58:36] <Mod9000> Hello,
darsie42
L213[10:59:00] <ve2dmn> double
darsie
L214[10:59:04] <darsie42> yep
L215[10:59:11] <darsie42> I'm on the mac
now.
L216[11:02:39] <UmbralRaptor> Humans are
silly. Plant dyson trees in the asteroid belt.
L217[11:06:18] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptor: or
encase the planet in a giant shield
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L219[11:17:06] <Ezko> does anyone remember
when was 0.25 released?
L220[11:18:18] <ve2dmn> Ezko: November
2013?
L221[11:18:23] <ve2dmn> something like
that?
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L223[11:23:23] <Deddly> Ezko, 7 October
2014
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L226[11:33:57] <Ezko> thanks
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L228[11:34:32] <Ezko> i wonder when i
bought ksp
L229[11:35:04] <Ezko> maybe it was spring
2014
L230[11:35:11] <Ezko> for some reason i
can't find the receipt in my email
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L232[11:50:38] <darsie42> I installed ckan
and mechjeb and now ksp says the incompatible mod realsolarsystem
is installed, but only MJ is ticked in ckan. What can I do?
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L235[11:52:03] <darsie42> Hmm, but the
solar system is still Kerbol.
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L237[11:56:28] <darsie42> MJ doesn't show
up.
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L242[12:09:43] <Aaodon> Hi
L243[12:09:44] <Mod9000> Hello,
Aaodon
L244[12:10:25] <Aaodon> Can I ask you
something?
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L251[12:29:00] <ve2dmn> Ezko: do you
remember a time before Eeloo?
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L253[12:37:22] <ve2dmn> darsie42: do you
have more then 1 copy of KSP installed?
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L256[12:49:08] <Eddi|zuHause> because it's
fake?
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L259[12:51:14] <Ezko> ve2dmn: looking at
patch notes was how i tried to figure it out, probably got it
right
L260[12:54:41] <APlayer> Eddi: That's from
the SpaceX flickr page...
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L262[12:57:20] <Eddi|zuHause> how does
that prove anything? :p
L263[12:58:03] <Kalpa^> It doesn't. The
Earth is flat!
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L266[12:58:42] <dariosammy> Hi
everyone
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L270[12:59:17] <dariosammy> Has anybody
black screen problems starting KSP
L271[12:59:19] <dariosammy> ?
L272[12:59:34] <Mathuin> Last time that
happened to me, I had to upgrade drivers, but there may be other
causes.
L273[13:00:45] <ve2dmn> dariosammy: any
other symptoms then 'black screen' ?
L274[13:01:01] <dariosammy> I wrote a
topic on forum where I explain the situation and I attached the log
files.
L275[13:01:54] <darsie42> Why doesn't
mechjeb or module manager show up? I made a fresh install on a
mac.
L276[13:02:06] <darsie42> with ckan
L278[13:04:35] <dariosammy> @ve2dmn When
game starts it opens a window with black screen and the game mouse
pointer. After a minute I can hear the music soundtrack and i can
click randomly on black screen, so I luckly clicked on the forum
weblink but I cannot see the game
L279[13:05:29] <ve2dmn> sounds like a
driver issue. Try looking up how to force either OpenGL, windows
mode or both
L280[13:05:35] *
ve2dmn is at work
L281[13:05:55] <darsie42> I saw MechJeb
show up at startup.
L282[13:07:14] <Mathuin> The only
"show up" that I've noticed with ModuleManager is
reporting the number of patches, am I missing out?
L283[13:08:13] <darsie42> It showed up in
the many files or directories displayed at startup.
L284[13:08:35] <darsie42> But no module
manager showing number of patches.
L285[13:08:44] <Mathuin> Ah, they might
blink by too fast. I'm down to 1700odd patches
L286[13:09:26] <darsie42> Just installing
MJ with ckan should work, right?
L287[13:10:04] <Mathuin> I do not recall
if MJ is one of the mods which is completely unsupported when
installed via CKAN.
L288[13:10:08] <Mathuin> I know RPM
is.
L289[13:10:25] <darsie42> I'll try another
mod ...
L290[13:10:56] <Mathuin> KER?
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L294[13:15:03] <darsie42> dated
quicksaves
L295[13:16:12] <Mathuin> Hahaha, NORAD
Cat. ID 43205 has a SATNAME of "TESLA ROADSTER/FALCON SH"
:-)
L296[13:16:27] <ve2dmn> :)
L297[13:16:44] <Eddi|zuHause> i wish i
could change the naming convention of dated quicksaves so they are
actually ordered by newest on top
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L299[13:17:21] <Mathuin> It would be nice
to sort by date, I use numbered quicksaves so it's sorta annoying
"#29, #3, #30"
L300[13:17:39] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, better
loading dialog would be nice
L301[13:18:26] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe i
should actually play the game again?
L302[13:18:52] <Eddi|zuHause> after my
plan of getting to mars in civ6 was thwarted by the stupid
tourists...
L303[13:19:06] <Mathuin> that complaint
would work in ksp as well
L304[13:19:23] <darsie42> How do I get KSP
(on a mac) to use mods?
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L306[13:20:51] <Eddi|zuHause> install
mono, run CKAN?
L307[13:21:06] <Eddi|zuHause> or are mac
mods special?
L308[13:21:15] <dariosammy> @ve2dmn It
works forcing openGL! Thank u so much! :)
L309[13:21:32] <ve2dmn> dariosammy:
classic issue then. Glad it worked
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L311[13:23:49] <darsie42> Eddi|zuHause:
That's what I tried. The mods are in the gamadata folder.
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L314[13:26:05] <Eddi|zuHause> darsie42:
sorry, then i can't help you
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L319[13:30:54] <Eddi|zuHause> hm...
launching KSP from steam gets stuck in the loading screen,
launching KSP from CKAN seems to work
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L321[13:33:29] <Mathuin> Eddi|zuHause:
steam defaults to launching 32-bit KSP
L322[13:34:04] <Eddi|zuHause> hm, that's
probably a bad idea :p
L323[13:34:33] <ve2dmn> I wish we could
change that
L324[13:35:42] <Mathuin> I change it in
the properties.
L325[13:35:45] <Mathuin> %CMD_64 or some
such
L326[13:35:52] <Mathuin> Details elude me
from work. :-(
L327[13:36:02] <Eddi|zuHause> i have a
vague memory of doing that before
L328[13:36:27] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe it got
lost at some point
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L330[13:40:26] <Eddi|zuHause> now, what
the hell was i doing in this game?
L331[13:40:57] <Mathuin> Whoa, the
maintainer of my favorite metamod hasn't played the game since KSP
introduced commnets
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L333[13:43:00] <Mathuin> Also, what's the
actual units for "dV/s" ?
L334[13:43:31] <Eddi|zuHause> ah, so i was
ferrying some tourists to minimus, and then a rescue mission on
minimus appeared, but i have no space left on the ship...
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L336[13:44:07] <ve2dmn> Mathuin: dV is
m/s
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L338[13:44:53] <ve2dmn> so dV/s is either
ms/s=m or m/(s*s) depending on how you want to write it
L339[13:44:58] <Mathuin> Right, but what's
the rocket-science term for "increase in meters per second per
second"
L340[13:45:05] <Mathuin> Is it ISP or
something else?
L341[13:45:33] <ve2dmn> m/s^2 is
acceleration, no?
L342[13:45:49] <Mathuin> Burns that cross
stages, from the swivel to the ... engine that is better for out of
the atmosphere, are often calculated based on the oomph given by
the initial stage.
L343[13:46:24] <Mathuin> If your math is
for the swivel and you switch to the terrier halfway through, your
burn is now way longer.
L344[13:47:59] <APlayer> Wait, why would
you do a thing such as dv/s?
L345[13:48:10] <APlayer> Just use F/m or
so instead
L346[13:48:45] <APlayer> Except if you're
integrating from an IMU or so, which I highly doubt, however
L347[13:49:22] <Mathuin> I would use dv/s
if I were trying to figure out how many s to run an engine to
generate a known version of dv.
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L349[13:49:30] <Mathuin> But that's
because I'm not a rocket scientist.
L350[13:50:08] <APlayer> Known version of
dv?
L351[13:50:31] <Mathuin> known amount of
dv
L352[13:50:43] <APlayer> That is, achieve
a certain velocity?
L353[13:51:03] <APlayer> Or spend enough
dv to have a certain amount left?
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L355[13:51:34] <APlayer> In either case,
you may want to have a look at the Tsiolkovski Rocket
Equation
L356[13:51:42] <ve2dmn> ^
L357[13:51:45] <APlayer> Because
Tsiolkovski was an awesome dude
L358[13:51:56] <APlayer> was/is? I guess
was?
L359[13:52:10] <APlayer> Well, yes,
was
L360[13:52:16] <ve2dmn> Although, across
stages, it might be a bit more problematic
L361[13:52:22] <APlayer> Lived well before
Sputnik 1
L362[13:52:40] <APlayer> Across stages, it
might be at most a bit more problematic
L363[13:52:50] <APlayer> You just add two
Tsiolkovskis together
L364[13:53:40] <UmbralRaptor> \sum_i
Tsiolkovsky_i
L365[13:54:14] <APlayer> Close
enough
L366[13:55:04] <UmbralRaptor> …why am I
writing raw LaTeX?
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L369[13:56:15] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptor:
because you work in that type of field
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L372[13:56:29] <APlayer> Coffee is just as
magic as duct tape and they should be worshipped together
L373[13:56:38] <taniwha> all hail the
bean
L374[13:56:47] <Mathuin> I have an Ap of
100k and want an Ap of 200k. I need to change my velocity by a
known amount. Different engines will require different amounts of
time to make that happen.
L375[13:56:52] <Mathuin> Office
interruption.
L376[13:57:12] <APlayer> So, you want Vis
viva to figure out the amount of dv to impart
L377[13:57:19] <ve2dmn> And it's Late?
:D
L378[13:57:19] <Mathuin> No.
L379[13:57:31] <Mathuin> I have used the
equation to figure out that amount. That's the "known
amount".
L380[13:57:32] <APlayer> Then you want
Tsiolkovski to figure out the amount of mass used
L381[13:57:51] <APlayer> And then you want
linear equations to figure out the burn time
L382[13:58:35] *
APlayer resists the urge to append "Trust me, I'm an
engineer"
L383[13:58:39] <APlayer> :P
L384[13:58:44] <taniwha> Mathuin: a=F/m,
dv = a*t (for small t due to changing m)
L385[13:58:57] <APlayer> ^ changing
m
L386[13:59:13] <Mathuin> The changing-m is
not the important part to me right this second.
L387[13:59:19] <APlayer> Hence, dv = ve *
ln(m_0/m_1)
L388[13:59:21] <Mathuin> I acknowledge
that change in m means change in F
L389[13:59:24] <Mathuin> That's not what
I'm talking about.
L390[13:59:41] <Mathuin> What I'm talking
about is "this engine" turns fuel into deltaV at a rate
which is different than "that engine".
L391[13:59:50] <APlayer> Mathuin:
Yes
L392[13:59:57] <APlayer> Just add two
tsiolkovskis
L393[13:59:59] <Mathuin> Mmm.
L394[14:00:00] <APlayer> One per
stage
L395[14:00:22] <Mathuin> Writing raw LaTeX
is probably my favorite part of my graduate work these days.
L396[14:00:23] <taniwha> dv = Isp * g0 *
ln (m_0/(m_0 - t*F/(Isp * g0)))
L397[14:00:42] <APlayer> One is limited by
the amount of fuel left, the other is limited by the amount of dv
left to impart
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L399[14:01:34] <APlayer> taniwha: Is that
already what I mean, or something different? I.e. shall I attempt
solving this plan or did you solve it already?
L400[14:01:36] <ve2dmn> Mathuin: I have a
function that does that in kOS
L401[14:01:48] <taniwha> APlayer: it's the
time version
L402[14:01:51] <Mathuin> ve2dmn: lemme
know when you've got it clean enough to share, I totes wanna
see
L403[14:02:18] <taniwha> APlayer: and
using values easily obtained from KSP (or constants: g0 = 9.8066
iirc)
L404[14:02:24] <APlayer> Anyway, Mathuin,
let me solve that real quick for you, be back in a few
minutes
L406[14:04:44] <Mathuin> Nice use of
Unicode
L407[14:04:50] <ve2dmn> I hate having to
do MAX(0.0000001,(g*p)) to avoid divide by 0
L409[14:05:21] <Mathuin> Yeah, it feels
SUPER INELEGANT to do that.
L410[14:05:26] <taniwha> ve2dmn: don't
fear the infinity
L411[14:06:20] <ve2dmn> taniwha: I don't
care about infinity, but kOS hates to push infinity on the
stack
L412[14:06:41] <Mathuin> I don't think kOS
is ready for try/catch and friends. :-) You could avoid the MAX if
you set TotalFuelFlow to epsilon instead of zero.
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L414[14:09:21] <taniwha> ve2dmn: I'd
consider that a bug
L415[14:09:37] <APlayer> It's a
feature
L416[14:09:38] <taniwha> though python is
annoying like that
L417[14:09:41] <APlayer> (No,
really)
L418[14:09:54] <ve2dmn> taniwha: if you
divide by 0 in kOS, the app crashes
L419[14:10:09] <APlayer> It's a filter
because apparently KSP does not like having NaN and Inf in the
API
L420[14:10:16] <APlayer> It can be
disabled, though
L421[14:10:47] <taniwha> Unity doesn't
like getting NaN or Inf, but KSP itself /uses/ Inf
L422[14:11:02] <taniwha> (check the period
of a hyperbolic orbit sometime:)
L423[14:11:06] *
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L425[14:11:19] <taniwha> (I know, because
I wrote that code:)
L426[14:11:20] <APlayer> Just quoting the
docs here
L427[14:11:36] <taniwha> kOS docs, I
assume
L428[14:11:41] <APlayer> Yeah
L429[14:11:49] <ve2dmn> taniwha: kOS does
not support infiniti, so it returns an error and stops
runnign
L430[14:12:10] <taniwha> ve2dmn: I
gathered that
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L432[14:12:34] <taniwha> thus my bug
comment
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L434[14:13:12] <APlayer> Mathuin: Solved
your equation
L435[14:13:22] <APlayer> Might be
nonsense, though, because it turned out rather ugly
L436[14:13:53] <taniwha> equations
involving ln usually are
L437[14:14:19] <taniwha> (unless you get
to hide ln in (ar)cosh/sinh/tanh)
L438[14:14:28] <APlayer> Solved for t,
given starting mass, ending mass, thrust and exhaust velocity for
stages one and two respectively
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L441[14:15:28] <APlayer> Taniwha: Well,
it's some sort of nested exponential function and logarithm with
sums preventing me from simplifying it, or at least I am too dumb
to simplify it
L442[14:15:42] <taniwha> APlayer: look
into maxima
L443[14:15:54] <APlayer> Let me input it
to Desmos and see if it even makes sense
L444[14:15:56] <taniwha> it's a nice
symbolic algebra system (free)
L445[14:16:04] <APlayer> So many place to
make mistakes
L446[14:16:09] <taniwha> yup
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L448[14:18:05] <taniwha> APlayer: anyway,
in case it wasn't obvious, the F/(Isp*gO) (or F/Ve) was to get Me
(mass flow: kg/s)
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L452[14:19:34] <taniwha> taking a
look
L453[14:19:40] <taniwha> I did some work
on such
L454[14:19:54] <APlayer> I even made
typos
L455[14:20:16] <APlayer> Second division
should divide by F_2
L456[14:21:36] <APlayer> And I screwed up
anyway, because it depends on the second stage's mass
L457[14:21:39] <APlayer> Heh
L458[14:21:49] *
APlayer tries again
L459[14:22:28] <APlayer> Well, yeah, I
kind of did one half of it backwards
L460[14:22:45] <taniwha> hmm, for single
stage, it's not too bad
L461[14:22:54] <taniwha> and the times
would just add together
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L463[14:23:18] <APlayer> Yeah, but again,
second stage's post-burn mass should not matter
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L468[14:24:07] <taniwha> (maxima
file)
L469[14:24:33] <APlayer> Not sure how to
use that. Let me just do it the old-fashioned pen and paper way
;-)
L470[14:25:28] <taniwha> hmm,
t=(1-1/exp(dv/Ve))* (m0/Me)
L471[14:26:16] <taniwha> APlayer: grab
maxima (sourceforge), maxima -b deltav.mac
L472[14:26:32] <taniwha> but yeah,
learning how to use maxima is a pain (but worth it)
L474[14:27:35] <kmath> YouTube - Lyrebird:
The Best Songbird Ever!
L475[14:27:46] <Raazeer> absolutely
hilarious
L476[14:27:57] <ve2dmn> I finished my run
of 'Anno 2205' and 'They are Billions', so we'll see if I get
motivated for code clearing this evening
L477[14:28:58] <ve2dmn> btw, something
feels... off.. in the audio of 'They are Billions'
L478[14:29:45] <ve2dmn> Mostly in the
soldier unit
L479[14:29:55] <ve2dmn> (but not just
him)
L480[14:30:42] <Eddi|zuHause> dangit, it
fell over landing on minimus :/
L481[14:30:56] <taniwha> anyway, back to
bed for me
L482[14:31:41] <APlayer> OK, re-solved
it
L483[14:31:45] <APlayer> Should be better
now
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L486[14:43:32] <EricPoehlsen> Eddi -
minmus is easy, just open the cargo bay to lift your nose :)
L487[14:44:02] <EricPoehlsen> ... hope you
didn't forget the cargo bay ...
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L490[14:59:32] <Eddi|zuHause> i somehow
don't have enough fuel for return...
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L492[15:03:05] <Eddi|zuHause> how do i
figure out which direction to burn from a landing spot?
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L495[15:04:20] <oren> Eddi|zuHause: on the
moon it doesn't matter, on minmus go east
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L504[15:22:15] <Eddi|zuHause> still
missing some 30m/s dV
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L513[15:38:16] <darsie> Eddi|zuHause:
jetpack
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L522[16:17:16] <Eddi|zuHause> so now i got
a mun encounter and need an extremely precise maneuver
L523[16:19:23] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, i think
that worked
L524[16:19:30] <Eddi|zuHause> let's try
reentry :)
L525[16:23:38] <Eddi|zuHause> i have a PE
of 35km, should i have aimed lower or higher?
L526[16:25:40] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, that
seems to be just right
L527[16:26:12] <Mathuin> I'm lame, I set
my PE to 0
L528[16:27:57] <Mathuin> The wiki page on
atmospheric entry does not match my experiences -- I've lost many a
high gain antenna to the atmosphere.
L529[16:28:32] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, maybe i
should have aimed lower, because it's doing another round trip now.
but the heat was near the overheat limit on some parts
L530[16:28:45] <Mathuin> That's the
balance, and I'm sadly better at overengineering
L531[16:30:52] <Mathuin> Conventional
wisdom on the subreddit from two years ago is 30-40km, with one
person suggesting the peri be placed 90 degrees before the landing
target.
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L535[16:44:08] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, don't
try to load a quicksave while in the atmosphere
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L547[17:39:04] <Eddi|zuHause> so, what
would i do with a station in a solar orbit?
L548[17:43:25] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause:
SCIENCE! of course
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L553[17:49:40] <Eddi|zuHause> ok... so my
mun station was a crazy mess before, but now the gimbal of the
engines seems broken
L554[17:49:52] <Eddi|zuHause> they fling
around like 90°
L555[17:50:12] <Supercheese> the thrust
might not be aligned with the center of mass
L556[17:50:17] <Supercheese> producing a
net torque
L557[17:51:07] <Eddi|zuHause> engines are
off
L558[17:51:40] <Eddi|zuHause> they just
wiggle about like crazy while the SAS tries to stabilize with the
reaction wheels
L559[17:52:01] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause:
picture?
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L561[17:52:39] <Eddi|zuHause> what's the
screenshot key?
L562[17:53:11] <Supercheese> oh engine
gimbal is activated whenever the game receives a rotation
input
L563[17:53:19] <Supercheese> even if the
engines aren't firing
L564[17:53:25] <Supercheese> it is kinda
weird, I agree
L565[17:53:54] <Supercheese> Steam
screenshots are F12 IIRC
L566[17:54:12] <Eddi|zuHause> i know that,
but it's HOW FAR the gimbal gimbals
L567[17:54:34] <Eddi|zuHause> it didn't
use to do that when i started this game a few months ago
L570[18:04:19] <Supercheese> that *is*
intense
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L572[18:05:26] <Supercheese> could be
something got wacky during game or mod update(s)
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L578[18:45:26] <TheKosmonaut>
Eddi|zuHause: the in game screen shot is F1
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L580[19:05:59] <SilverFox> alt f4
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L582[19:10:47] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i'll
try that right now, because my flight did not reach orbit
L583[19:13:56] <Mathuin> Awww, you did not
go to space today.
L584[19:14:46] <Eddi|zuHause> oh i was
properly in space
L585[19:15:00] <Eddi|zuHause> it just
didn't circularize in time
L586[19:16:21] <Mathuin> It is so
frustrating to get the apoapsis to the right point but not have
enough lead time for the circularization burn.
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L588[19:26:14] <Draconiator> Do you think
Elons car is still playing songs on the radio?
L589[19:28:56] <RandomJeb> unsure how well
the electronics would deal with the van allen belt
L590[19:29:18] <RandomJeb> but if the
batteries and radio survived through that I figure it should last
several months
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L592[19:29:46] <Eddi|zuHause> sounds a bit
long
L593[19:30:18] <Eddi|zuHause> but if
there's no air to transmit sound, is the radio really playing?
:p
L594[19:30:57] <RandomJeb> there's the car
itself to transmit sound I suppose
L595[19:31:14] <Draconiator> lol, no one
can see the display but if it's sti;ll going, it's still
playing.
L596[19:31:39] <tawny> the battery's
probably already dead
L597[19:31:50] <tawny> he said it'd last
about 12 hours
L598[19:40:13] <RandomJeb> what kind of
radio and batteries did they put in that thing? o_O
L599[19:40:34] <RandomJeb> well I suppose
most of the power would go to that don't panic screen
L600[20:00:39] <Mathuin> I thought the
words were painted on, hmm.
L601[20:09:54] <Mathuin> Oooh. Someone on
Reddit suggested that Squad make one of the unknown tracking
objects a red Tesla car.
L602[20:10:08] <Mathuin> I'm actually a
little surprised there's no mod yet doing that.
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L604[20:30:27] <UmbralRaptor>
Teapotahedron!
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L625[22:48:15] <Draconiator> okay what the
heck....Lubuntu updated to the weird video bug for some
reason
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