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L15[01:48:14] <kmath> YouTube - Falcon
Heavy Animation
L16[01:48:25] <Althego> old
L17[01:48:32] <Althego> at least now it is
not unlisted
L18[01:48:40] <Mat2ch> Whenever I say
things like "this is how KSP should look like" my
graphics card is screaming in agony
L19[01:48:44] <Mat2ch> ;P
L20[01:49:07] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: When
was that originally uploaded then?
L21[01:49:08] <Althego> ksp could like any
modern game
L22[01:49:19] <Althego> the framerate is
physics limited
L23[01:49:25] <TheKosmonaut> Because I
thought that was the one SpaceX said they were uploading just the
other day
L24[01:49:30] <Althego> dunno, i found it
in a tweet of elon yesterday
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L43[04:40:49] <Kalpa> So when's the gosh
darn Muskelwagen launch time?
L44[04:41:54] <markovify> 18:30 UTC
L45[04:41:57] <GlassYuri> okay, so I should
never handwrite anything again
L46[04:42:21] <markovify> that's 13:30 for
you east coasters
L47[04:42:32] <GlassYuri> returned one
package from aliexpress because I received the wrong item
L48[04:42:43] <markovify> GlassYuri: i
don't know about you but i put all my skill points into
typing
L49[04:42:51] <GlassYuri> it appears to
have gone through every post office in china and japan and then
come back to me
L50[04:43:00] <markovify> that's
hilarious
L51[04:43:08] <markovify> does it have tons
of stamps?
L52[04:43:12] <markovify> you should frame
it
L53[04:44:13] <GlassYuri> stamps, stickers,
stamps with stickers, and a loose piece of paper fixed to it with a
rubber band that is torn and has been taped back together
L54[04:44:47] <markovify> beautiful, better
than i imagined
L55[04:45:26] <markovify> censor your
address and post for sweet, sweet karma
L56[04:45:35] <GlassYuri> the seller
doesn't seem to care though, more proof that sellers on aliexpress
don't give a damn about anything
L57[04:46:23] <GlassYuri> supposedly they
are all dumb young adults who think that they're gonna get rich
dropshipping abroad
L58[04:47:09] <Kalpa> Thank you
markovify
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L60[04:48:46] <markovify> GlassYuri: that
would explain a lot, actually
L61[04:50:52] <GlassYuri> oh so apparently
there is a small hole in the recipient's address
L62[04:51:21] <GlassYuri> but his name has
been circled with a ballpoint pen with something that might be
"no" written next to it
L63[04:52:04] <GlassYuri> seller still
exists on aliexpress though
L64[04:52:30] <markovify> i am not kidding
i want to see a picture of this so badly
L65[04:52:35] <GlassYuri> thought they may
have gone out of business in between
L66[04:52:39] <GlassYuri> markovify, will
do
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L73[05:05:57] <markovify> GlassYuri: these
postal workers inadvertantly created a work of art
L74[05:06:23] <markovify> the best part is
the sticker that claims 'unsufficient address' is partially
torn
L75[05:06:30] <markovify> un? in
L76[05:12:15] <GlassYuri> the three stamp
stickers on the back are from the post office in xixiang, shenzhen,
which means that it was in the correct place
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L78[05:19:51] <GlassYuri> markovify, oh,
and despite all the damn packing tape I put over it the package has
been ripped open and the contents partially smashed
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L82[05:34:44] <markovify> GlassYuri: that's
inspections for you
L83[05:36:00] <GlassYuri> markovify, maybe
the got suspicious because my local post office basically made me
put "not a battery" on the customs declaration
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L85[05:40:10] <markovify> GlassYuri:
understandable, postal systems can be weird about things that
spontaniously combust if damaged
L87[05:47:35] <Fluburtur> very
accurate
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L90[05:56:21] <Fluburtur> my grandma just
informed me that spacex will soon launch a rocket
L91[05:56:27] <Fluburtur> oh man I did not
know
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L99[06:25:04] <Pakaran> Fluburtur, I'm just
wondering how long Musk has to get Martian plates on the car.
L100[06:25:31] <Pakaran> (Knowing him, he
might figure on the Martians being tempted into contact so they can
try to fine him.)
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L104[06:51:12] <TheKosmonaut>
.nextlaunch
L106[06:51:12] <kmath> YouTube - Falcon
Heavy Test Flight
L107[06:51:17] <TheKosmonaut> NO
BRAKES
L109[06:58:18] <kmath> YouTube - Reckless
drone flies ABOVE passenger jet at McCarran Airport
L110[06:58:22] <Rokker> disgusting
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L113[07:27:11] <markovify> Rokker: indeed.
the votes agree
L114[07:29:14] <markovify> people like
this is why we can't have nice toys
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L116[07:43:59] <GlassYuri> Rokker, hey
btw, a few friends and me want to visit an US military base, but it
appears that they might not let foreigners in
L117[07:44:35] <GlassYuri> I mean that
would totally not be the most hypocritical thing ever
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L119[07:54:23] <Blaank> Falcon heavy
today?
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L121[07:54:50] <GlassYuri> Blaank, falcon
heavy never
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L123[07:54:58] <Blaank> 4 hours
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L128[08:17:39] <Blaank> The odds it's
going to work fine are like 50/50 since it's largely tried and true
components?
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L131[08:21:50] <ve2dmn> T-4h, yes
L132[08:22:43] <Mimiru> :( I'll be driving
when it launches if it's on time.
L133[08:23:38] <ve2dmn> Mimiru: I'm going
to be in the office
L134[08:28:09] <Blaank> RIP
L135[08:32:05] <ve2dmn> plenty of bandwith
in the office
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L137[08:33:00] <ve2dmn> T-4h for SpaceX,
T-14h for Timmies
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L140[08:43:58] <Blaank> timmies?
L141[08:44:50] <APlayer> Hi!
L143[08:45:03] <ve2dmn> Tim Hortons.
Canadian thing
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L149[08:54:21] <Pakaran> hmm.
L150[08:54:45] <Pakaran> looks like with
KSS installed, I specifically do not want sigmadimensions?
L151[08:56:17] <Pakaran> removing it now
(via ckan, which all my non-KSS mods are under)
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L153[09:01:11] <Pakaran> basically at this
point, my "allegedly stockish" game is USI, a couple
parts mods, FAR and Deadly Reentry, and now much of KSS.
L154[09:01:49] <Pakaran> Once I settle on
what I want, I'll back it up and/or take it out of ckan
control.
L155[09:02:37] <ve2dmn> USI, including
USI-LS ?
L156[09:03:48] <Pakaran> yes, though I may
turn it off in future, and I do have drives that are capable of
crewed interstellar missions in my far future, if I'm not
mistaken.
L157[09:03:59] <Pakaran> I may also just
exempt veterans.
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L159[09:04:09] <Pakaran> I'm trying to
settle on mods before progressing the real save too far.
L160[09:04:56] <Pakaran> I mean, if I
really wanted, I could probably use orion and
"alkerbierrie" drive to make a colony launchable from the
surface of Kerbin.
L161[09:05:22] <ve2dmn> I made the USI-LS
consequences temporary, because it's my first foray into the
mod
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L163[09:06:01] <Pakaran> Yeah, I think
that's what I'll stick with. Plus recursive rescue missions are
fun!
L164[09:06:44] <ve2dmn> "Send more
potatoes!"
L165[09:06:50] <Pakaran> Also, it looks
like pilots are immune to habitation.
L166[09:06:59] <EricPoehlsen> not
completely
L167[09:07:08] <Pakaran> ?
L168[09:07:08] <EricPoehlsen> but they are
easier to satisfy
L169[09:07:22] <EricPoehlsen> they get
permanent habitation beyond 1 year
L170[09:07:35] <EricPoehlsen> the other
specialties with 50 years to spare
L171[09:07:49] <EricPoehlsen> except
scouts - they are like pilots
L172[09:08:09] <ve2dmn> I guess Pilots are
used to small cockpits
L173[09:08:13] <Pakaran> they just can't
provide SAS?
L174[09:08:39] <EricPoehlsen> scouts are
some general purpose colonists
L175[09:09:00] <EricPoehlsen> But my
colonization attempts so far have not been too great
L176[09:09:06] <Pakaran> yeah, I was sort
of looking at the colony economy
L177[09:09:34] <Pakaran> it looks like
I'll mostly use machinery and fertilizer from kerbin, at the
least
L178[09:10:33] <Pakaran> always nice when
mods come with new loading screen art :)
L179[09:11:42] <EricPoehlsen> With
colonization my problems are the various resource requirements of
different mods - so K&K / Pathfinder and MKS all want different
building resources
L180[09:12:17] <Pakaran> ah, I have a lot
of parts mods, but don't have other life support mods (though
apparently TAC is supported), and don't have Interstellar.
L181[09:12:59] <EricPoehlsen> I like the
shared resources that Pathfinder introduces
L182[09:13:29] <EricPoehlsen> because it
allows for smaller bases scattered around with less risk for sudden
kraken desintegration
L183[09:14:24] <Pakaran> ah, but it just
turns into Factorio trying to arrange production of
everything?
L184[09:14:56] <EricPoehlsen> that is why
I have not gone into colony building
L185[09:15:12] <EricPoehlsen> somewhere
along the lines you get from one game into another
L186[09:15:28] <Pakaran> ah, thanks.
L187[09:15:38] <EricPoehlsen> and KSP is a
great space simulator - but a shitty city builder :)
L188[09:15:45] <Draconiator> Heh
L189[09:16:16] <TheKosmonaut>
EricPoehlsen: Ahem, please mind the language in this channel. We
observe the same rules as the forum.
L190[09:16:22] <TheKosmonaut>
.nextlaunch
L192[09:16:23] <kmath> YouTube - Falcon
Heavy Test Flight
L193[09:16:28] <TheKosmonaut> oooh getting
closer
L194[09:16:28] <Draconiator> I have an EM
drive in my engines...thing puts out only about 1KN I think
L195[09:18:35] <Pakaran> maybe I should
look for an EMdrive mod, would be fun for interstellar use
L196[09:19:04] <Pakaran> or
stationkeeping, if there's a tiny solar-compatible one?
L197[09:20:02] <Draconiator> I'd have to
look.
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L199[09:20:07] <ve2dmn> EricPoehlsen: KSP
is still listed in the 'Base-Building games' subreddit wiki
L200[09:20:32] <EricPoehlsen> really
:D
L202[09:20:56] <Pakaran> it's ok, I've
already got ckan open, Draconiator
L203[09:20:57] <EricPoehlsen> Well I think
there are other games which are a little more suited for that
cateogry :D
L204[09:21:16] <Pakaran> you mean without
"spurious forces" on big rigid things?
L206[09:24:24] <Draconiator> Oh and Pak,
if you're going to Eeloo soon, I would not design my ship to use
solar panels...I have a HUGE blanket solar array on one of mine and
it only puts out around 0.5 units a second even it's huge and
massive and....
L207[09:25:52] <Pakaran> thanks.
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L209[09:26:36] <Althego> heh outpost
L210[09:26:44] <Althego> that was in an
other, more civilized time
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L212[09:30:49] <ve2dmn> I dreamed of
remaking that game
L213[09:31:07] <ve2dmn> Just to add
visuals for the ressources trucks
L214[09:33:26] <ve2dmn> Sadly, I'm just
not good enough as a developper
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L216[09:36:08] <EricPoehlsen> yeah it
would be fun doing something in that regards
L217[09:37:13] <EricPoehlsen> But the most
important thing if you do game development on your own is: are you
ready to code Pong - or do you dare to progress to Tetris
L218[09:38:04] <EricPoehlsen> trying to do
a Triple-A Project as one man show will definitly lead into despair
and crumbled dreams :)
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L220[09:38:50] <EricPoehlsen> of course
there are some exceptional one-man / small-team projects - but they
are rare
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L222[09:44:43] <Fluburtur> uh I have no
pitcure of the non inevrting mirror at the cité des sciences
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L224[09:50:24] <Althego> wait, did the
japanese succeed with the smallest orbital rocket?
L226[09:50:35] <kmath> YouTube - Last
Minute Updates on Falcon Heavy & BFR - February 6th
L227[09:50:44] <Fluburtur> they did make
ungided ones
L228[09:50:55] <Fluburtur> dunno how they
compare to the electron
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L230[09:57:43] <Althego> doesnt matter how
many times he says it, i am not going to fly a safe
L231[09:58:29] <Blaank> Aww, no dragon
2.
L232[09:58:41] <Althego> but it was almost
finished
L233[09:58:45] <Blaank> I know
L234[09:58:58] <Blaank> But human rating a
falcon heavy would be expensive.
L235[09:59:03] <Althego> also the bfr is
probably not for iss
L236[09:59:11] <Althego> so there would be
some need for a smaller capsule
L237[09:59:59] <Blaank> You could just
bring the entire rest of the ISS's lifespan of supplies in one
trip.
L238[10:00:15] <Althego> not really
L239[10:00:26] <Althego> for example food
cant be stored indefinitely
L240[10:00:30] <Blaank> Oh, right.
L241[10:00:34] <Althego> also some live
animals
L242[10:00:40] <Althego> stuff like
that
L243[10:02:41] <ve2dmn> The Japanese used
a modified sounding rocket to put a cubesat into space (If I
remember correctly)
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L246[10:08:21] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: oh, the
youtubers, always need to make a video about things. :D
L247[10:09:03] <Fluburtur> yeah
L248[10:09:12] <Fluburtur> but scott
videos are always nice
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L250[10:09:44] <ve2dmn> "Hey
everyone! YoutuberX here! Just made this video to say hi! Don't
forget to click Subscribe and hit that tumbs up button. Peace
out!"
L251[10:11:37] <Blaank> Is human rating
hard?
L252[10:12:14] <ve2dmn> not according to
Sturgeon's Law
L253[10:12:25] <Althego> probably long and
tedious
L254[10:13:46] <Blaank> Do you think the
whole car thing was a joke or serious at the start?
L255[10:16:43] <ve2dmn> I think he said he
wanted to put the most ridicoulous thing he could think of for the
test flight
L256[10:17:44] <ve2dmn> I wonder what that
car will look like in a few years
L257[10:17:56] <Blaank> It's silly but it
needs solar panels if it's going to be jamming forever.
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L259[10:18:30] <Blaank> May want a bolt on
RCS or some other method of stabalizing due to it tumbling not
looking cool enough.
L260[10:18:55] <ve2dmn> Flywheel?
L261[10:19:04] <Blaank> Has it's own
issues but may work.
L262[10:19:31] <Blaank> I was thinking
cold gas thrusters hidden pretty well with tiny discrete ports
poking out of the wheel wells and body panels.
L263[10:19:42] <Blaank> You want this to
look good.
L264[10:20:15] <ve2dmn> You could use the
wheels as 'flywheels'
L265[10:20:43] <Blaank> But they would
have to spin forever and not vaccum weld when the lube vaporized or
froze.
L266[10:21:45] <ve2dmn> I wanted the car
to have a bubblehead of jeb on the dashboard, but my sources
assured me that the dashboard has a KSP reference of some
sort...
L267[10:21:57] <ve2dmn> ... I have my
doubts about thoses sources
L268[10:22:03] <Blaank> Jeb bobblehead
would be rad.
L269[10:22:15] <Blaank> I hope they have a
gopro in the helmet.
L270[10:24:09] <Althego> a car is big
enough to be its own flywheel. just as most probes spin
L271[10:24:31] <Mat2ch> eh, there's a
tweet going around that tells people to unfriend poor friends to
increase their rating...
L273[10:24:43] <kmath> <tijmenschep>
TIP: Unfriend your poor friends on Facebook, it will help you get
better interest rates on your loans. This tool ca…
https://t.co/s0mg8FEajW
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L275[10:24:59] <Althego> that s already a
system in china
L276[10:25:07] <Althego> for loans and
such
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L279[10:26:08] <APlayer> @TheKosmonaut ^
is this normal?
L280[10:26:33] <Althego> i doubt 1 person
can define norma
L281[10:26:34] <Althego> l
L282[10:26:41] <TheKosmonaut> ?
L283[10:26:47] <Althego> at least
staistical normal
L284[10:27:14] <TheKosmonaut> APlayer: is
what normal?
L285[10:27:26] <TheKosmonaut> The
NextLaunchBackup quitting then coming back?
L286[10:27:29] <TheKosmonaut> It's
probably fine
L287[10:27:31] <APlayer> Yes
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L289[10:27:40] <Althego> hehe
L290[10:27:43] <TheKosmonaut> has it been
doing it a lot?
L291[10:27:51] <Althego> why is it backup
at all
L292[10:27:56] <TheKosmonaut> must be
getting attacked by ULA bees
L293[10:28:02] <APlayer> Well, is it
normal if it quits and does /not/ come back? :P
L294[10:28:04] <TheKosmonaut> Althego:
Because the original person went awol
L295[10:28:14] <TheKosmonaut> Hm
L296[10:28:46] <TheKosmonaut> APlayer:
Dunno.. he's working on it I think.
L297[10:28:50] <APlayer> Probably
overloaded by people trying to find out when FH launches :P
L298[10:28:52] <TheKosmonaut> Imma sleep a
little before the FH launch.
L299[10:29:01] <TheKosmonaut> just a
couple hours left
L300[10:29:12] <APlayer> Sure, good idea.
Anything we can do to wake you up in case you are missing it?
L301[10:29:18] <APlayer> Like, wildly ping
you? :P
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L304[10:31:14] <Kalpa> Couple hours,
like... 2?
L305[10:31:26] <Kalpa> Unless the 1830 UTC
was a blatant lie
L306[10:34:12] <APlayer> 18:30 UTC, the
time stands, to my knowledge
L307[10:35:02] <Mat2ch> Elon just assured
that everything is still on time
L309[10:35:14] <kmath> <SpaceX> All
systems remain go for today’s test flight of Falcon Heavy. Weather
is 90% favorable for today’s two-and-a-half…
https://t.co/RLAu8JYQKI
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L311[10:36:43] <Mat2ch> 77,615
waiting
L312[10:36:45] <Mat2ch> :D
L313[10:36:55] <Mat2ch> And
counting!
L314[10:37:13] <Mat2ch> What was the
biggest event youtube ever streamed?
L315[10:37:34] <Mat2ch> I really hope
they're prepared for this...
L316[10:38:04] <ve2dmn> It was the jump
for the edge of space
L317[10:38:08] <ve2dmn> from*
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L320[10:41:58] <Blaank> at what
count?
L321[10:42:14] <Althego> hehe the austin
poers d joke rocket
L322[10:42:44] <ve2dmn> Blaank: millions?
I don't remember
L323[10:45:32] <Althego> any launch stream
link?
L326[10:45:54] <kmath> YouTube - Falcon
Heavy Test Flight
L327[10:45:57] <Tank2333> hi
L328[10:45:58] <Mod9000> Hello,
Tank2333
L329[10:46:06] <Althego> in 104
minutes
L330[10:46:21] <APlayer> The clock's
ticking
L331[10:46:25] <APlayer> The suspense
intensifies
L332[10:46:41] <ve2dmn> All abord the hype
train!
L333[10:49:27] <Tank2333> im on
L334[10:51:28] <APlayer> Hype trains are
old. We have hype rockets
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L341[10:54:33] <Althego> i cant fit the
surface scanner on this tiny probe
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L344[10:57:03] <Tank2333> lol
L345[10:58:21] <ve2dmn> What would be the
best soundtrack for the launch?
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L347[11:03:42] <Ezko> cannibal corpse -
hammer smashed face
L348[11:03:56] <Althego> hah, success, now
it is even uglier than before
L349[11:04:27] <ve2dmn> Daft Punk - harder
better faster stronger ? Europe - The Final Countdown?
L350[11:06:07] ***
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L351[11:06:11] <ve2dmn> Thus Spoke
Zarathustra - 2001 : A Space Odyssey ?
L352[11:06:41] <Mat2ch> already over 100k
people waiting :D
L353[11:07:03] <Mat2ch> (for an event for
which nobody really advertised for)
L354[11:07:28] <Fluburtur> they did talk
about it on tv here
L356[11:07:36] <kmath> <elonmusk>
Upper atmosphere winds currently 20% above max allowable load.
Holding for an hour to allow winds to diminish. #FalconHeavy
L357[11:07:50] <Althego> now that this
probe is there i could strip it of the useless parts, and send a
second one to eve, day 16 is still in the possibility, less than 2k
m/s probably. still lot beter than for duna, where the 8.1k it has
is probably not enough
L358[11:07:56] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: but
it's no advertisment. It's just talking about things
L359[11:08:04] <Fluburtur> yeah
L360[11:08:44] <Althego> oh but i cant
send it to eve just like this
L361[11:09:09] <ve2dmn> "8 million
simultaneous viewers Felix Baumgartner skydive sets record for
YouTube live streams"
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L363[11:10:31] <ve2dmn> That Record was
beatten... by a live Birth of a Giraffe
L364[11:11:09] <Althego> lol
L365[11:12:09] <ve2dmn> (I can't find the
other records)
L367[11:13:19] <kmath>
<literally_josh> @KvonBengtson @elonmusk I think you just
basically described a rocket
L369[11:16:34] <Althego> yes, the
container at the bottom is the landing gear :)
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L372[11:17:06] <Althego> i have some
douobt about the nuke being able to perform for like 15 minutes for
the breakingburn
L373[11:19:18] <BPlayer> So will the Tesla
only encounter Mars or actually orbit it? I've seen either
version
L374[11:20:51] <Mathuin> There's no
mid-course correction equipment, so I'm suspecting it will enter a
solar orbit that will approach Mars, versus insert into Martian
orbit.
L375[11:21:57] <BPlayer> MOI sure would
require a lot of stuff (prevent LOX boiloff, communications,
mission control, ...), but I've seen sources stating it would be in
an elliptic Mars orbit
L376[11:22:24] <BPlayer> Anyway, ;tell me
if anyone knows more exactly, I am off for dinner...
L377[11:24:24] <Althego> probably mars
flyby
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L379[11:30:24] <Mathuin> ve2dmn: made a
new save, effectively stock+kOS, and was able to get my first
elliptical relay satellite off the ground in the first day using
the script.
L380[11:30:38] <Mathuin> It's early enough
I had to open the antennas by hand, since I don't have the VAB to
level 3.
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L383[11:37:38] <Mathuin> Oh, ditto for the
first SCANsat around Kerbin.
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L385[11:39:57] <BPlayer> Back!
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L388[11:42:49] <Deddly> .nextlaunch
L389[11:43:14] <TheKosmonaut> mm
L390[11:43:18] <TheKosmonaut> Bot died I
guess
L391[11:43:18] <Kalpa> Delays delays
L392[11:43:36] <Kalpa> Well, I better stop
trying to catch the event live and head to bed instead
L393[11:47:36] <Fluburtur> the falcon
heavy is pretty comparable to the ariane 5 for payloads to gto and
recovering the rocket
L394[11:47:44] <Fluburtur> exept the
ariane is more expensive
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L396[11:48:06] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: A short while ago on a planet very near . .
.
L397[11:49:13] <Scolar_Visari> I've also
answered the question:
L399[11:49:36] <TheKosmonaut> FH keeps
getting pushed
L400[11:49:44] <TheKosmonaut> Now looking
at 3:05 launch
L401[11:49:48] <Kalpa> Colonia isn't even
that far away
L402[11:49:52] <Mathuin> Winds
again?
L403[11:50:47] <umaxtu> As far as we
know
L404[11:50:58] <Kalpa> Winds have been
cited
L405[11:51:31] <Scolar_Visari> Kalpa: It's
long enough when you can only make 25 light-year jumps.
L406[11:51:32] <umaxtu> I'm hoping that
the fact they keep pushing it back in small increments means that
the wind speed is trending down
L407[11:52:02] <Scolar_Visari> Of course,
I stored my Python in a space garage and bought a Diamondback
Explorer to make the journey home. 54 light year jumps FTW.
L408[11:52:47] <Kalpa> Bah, 25 light years
was plenty back in the day
L409[11:52:48] <Scolar_Visari> I also
discovered four (!) uncharted Earth-likes on the Neutron
superhighway, which I did not expect!
L410[11:52:53] <TheKosmonaut> Diamondback
Scout or get out
L411[11:53:04] <Kalpa> Asp Explorer or
gtfo
L412[11:53:08] <TheKosmonaut> DBE is like
an ugly 4-seater version of a 2-seater coupe
L413[11:53:30] <Kalpa> That said, I
haven't flown in months
L414[11:53:33] <Althego> hehe the timer is
increasing
L415[11:53:35] <Kalpa> In, actually, like
half a year
L416[11:53:36] <TheKosmonaut> DBS for
life
L417[11:53:46] <TheKosmonaut> I used to
take on Anacondas in one DBS and win
L418[11:53:47] <Althego> now it is not
even in minutes
L419[11:53:48] <Kalpa> Wonder if my Elite
is even up to date...
L420[11:54:02] <Althego> i dont even have
it installed
L421[11:54:04] <TheKosmonaut> I havent
updated since they added planetary landings :S
L422[11:54:21] <Althego> but i think i
have elite 2 with my last saves from the old old p1
L423[11:54:23] <Scolar_Visari> Kosmonaut:
The Explorer has extra range plus better optional module
space.
L424[11:54:31] <TheKosmonaut>
Scolar_Visari: Blehhhh
L425[11:54:40] <TheKosmonaut> RULE OF
COOL
L426[11:54:50] <TheKosmonaut> RoC >
Utility
L427[11:54:50] <Scolar_Visari> Psht, the
Explorer is cooler. We all know the Chieftain is the best.
L428[11:55:15] *
Scolar_Visari still wished all four of the Chieftain's big engines
swiveled.
L429[11:56:06] <Kalpa> ...Chieftain?
L430[11:56:19] <Scolar_Visari> Kalpa: It's
a new Lakon Spaceways/Alliance ship.
L431[11:56:30] <Scolar_Visari> It's
between the Federation Dropship and the Imperial Clipper.
L432[11:56:31] <Kalpa> Oh, great. Does it
have excellent jump range?
L433[11:56:40] <Kalpa> Right, so bubble
crap
L434[11:56:41] <TheKosmonaut> Diamonback
Scout has the best abbreviation though, DBS
L435[11:56:48] <Mat2ch> 210k waiting
:D
L436[11:56:48] <TheKosmonaut> then you can
act like you own an Aston-Martin
L437[11:57:05] <TheKosmonaut> back later
for launch
L438[11:57:14] <Mathuin> What are the
aerodynamic characteristics of the Stayputnik as compared to the
Aerodynamic Nose Cone?
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L441[11:57:42] <Mathuin> If there's no
difference, I can save an upgrade level by avoiding Electrics (only
doing it for the probe core)
L442[11:57:46] <Blaank> dangit, why is
launch being delayed?
L443[11:57:51] <Althego> too fat
L444[11:57:54] <Scolar_Visari> Kosmonaut:
DBS < DBX. The letter 'X' automatically improves things.
L445[11:58:01] <Mathuin> Fat's fine, the
rest of the rocket is that fat.
L446[11:58:35] <TheKosmonaut>
Scolar_Visari: agree to disagree. Because everyone is entitled to
their opinions... even if it's 100% false
L447[11:58:37] <TheKosmonaut> :P
L448[11:58:41] <TheKosmonaut> OK SLP
MODE
L449[11:59:12] <Althego> sjw mode?
:)
L450[11:59:18] <Scolar_Visari> Kalpa: It
has a slightly better range than the Dropship.
L451[11:59:36] <Scolar_Visari> Kosmonaut:
I'm afraid, comrade Kosmonaut, that you are only entitled to my own
opinions.
L452[11:59:55] <Scolar_Visari> Mathuin:
Except for the puny payload fairing.
L454[12:01:20] <Mathuin> I have no
fairings.
L455[12:01:40] <Mathuin> Closest thing I
have to a fairing is the payload bay.
L456[12:01:50] <Mathuin> And I stuck the
little probe core in there, with batteries, under the nose
cone.
L457[12:01:58] <ve2dmn> I just came back
from lunch... what the latest on SpaceX? 15:00 EST?
L458[12:02:01] <Scolar_Visari> I was
thinking of the Falcon Heavy. It's just a fat Falcon 9 or, perhaps,
a Falcon 9 with parasitic twins.
L459[12:02:19] <APlayer> More like a
Falcon 27
L460[12:02:30] <ve2dmn> Or Falcon
999
L461[12:02:41] <APlayer> Falcon 9³
L462[12:03:25] <ve2dmn> Faclon 729?
L463[12:03:30] <Scolar_Visari> APlayer:
The less successful Falcon model.
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L465[12:04:09] <ve2dmn> But it's Falcon 9
because of the 9 engine... so 27 is closest to the
designation
L466[12:04:51] <Scolar_Visari> Falcon
Overweight, which sounds more like an Age-of-Sail
classification.
L467[12:05:02] <Scolar_Visari> Falcon 9
rocket-of-the-line.
L468[12:05:07] <APlayer> Fatcon
L469[12:05:17] <ve2dmn> Farcon
L470[12:06:20] <Deddly> ve2dmn, wind shear
is the latest
L471[12:06:23] <Althego> phallcon :)
L472[12:06:55] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Nanananana our rocket's tallest!
L473[12:07:06] <Deddly> "The first
test flight of Falcon Heavy is now targeted for Tuesday, Feb. 6th
at 3:05 PM ET from Launch Complex 39A at Kennedy Space Center in
Florida. Teams are watching upper level wind shear and will
continue to update as information becomes available."
L474[12:07:12] <Althego> i had to say it,
because of the tweet pic
L475[12:07:32] <APlayer> Althego: No. Not
really.
L476[12:08:01] <Deddly> Launch window is
only two and a half hours. Seems unlikely to happen at this
point
L477[12:08:23] <APlayer> Deddly: Do you
have a link to that?
L478[12:08:27] <tawny> aww :(
L479[12:08:29] <Blaank> Oh, wind changes
at altitude?
L481[12:08:51] <Ezko> Blaank: was that
serious?
L482[12:08:52] <APlayer> Thank you!
L483[12:09:01] <Blaank> was what?
L484[12:09:06] <Ezko> your question
L485[12:09:11] <Blaank> I don't know what
upper level wind shear is.
L486[12:09:22] <Blaank> I'm guessing it's
winds changing directions at different layers.
L487[12:09:24] <KrazyKrl> It's a flock of
geese with scissors.
L488[12:09:36] <Blaank> And I can see how
it going one way then suddenly another way can screw with a
rocket.
L490[12:10:04] <Ezko> Blaank: have you
ever went from a very high to a very low place within a short
amount of time and noticed a change in wind speed and even possibly
direction?
L491[12:10:17] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
There is 'withdrawal' from the garden
L492[12:10:31] <Blaank> I've never been
exposed to wind above anything like 20m.
L493[12:10:36] <APlayer> Aye, stream no
longer says 2 h, but 119 minutes
L494[12:10:36] <Blaank> So I wouldn't
know.
L496[12:10:48] <kmath> YouTube - 2 Layers
of Clouds Moving In Opposite Directions-Timelapse
L497[12:11:00] <Blaank> What is your
point? I know it happens.
L498[12:11:24] <APlayer> Uh, you asked,
haha
L499[12:11:28] <Ezko> i wanted to know if
you were trolling
L500[12:11:38] <Blaank> what
L501[12:11:43] <Ezko> i wanted to know if
you were trolling
L502[12:11:48] <Blaank> no.
L503[12:11:51] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: You
just have to disembark upon request by the nice Nebula
people.
L505[12:12:15] <Ezko> then i'll leave the
rest for you to figure out
L506[12:12:24] <Blaank> I still don't know
what exactly upper level wind shear is which is why I'm asking and
was guessing .... not helping at all.
L507[12:12:51] <APlayer> Blaank: AFAIK,
that's when wind is moving sideways relative to the rocket
L508[12:13:30] <APlayer> Also, Ezko: Nice
people are nicer than not so nice ones, so please be a bit nicer
;-)
L509[12:13:35] <Scolar_Visari> And a rare
example of an outpost on a moon with a highly inclined orbit aruond
a ringed gas giant
https://snag.gy/Kcw6Wm.jpg
L510[12:14:24] <ve2dmn> Wind shear was
involved in the Challenger disaster... although it was not the
cause
L511[12:14:26] <Ezko> APlayer: which part
wasn't nice?!
L512[12:14:38] <Blaank> How did wind shear
even matter to a brittle o-ring?
L513[12:15:01] <Ezko> "was not the
cause"
L514[12:15:06] <APlayer> I apologize if
you meant to be nice, but your last few messages did sound a bit
harsh
L515[12:15:07] <KrazyKrl> I think wind
shear is involved in 99.99% of launches.
L516[12:15:16] <Raazeer> does anyone know
where I can get some decent V5 heatbreaks? The all-M6 kind?
L517[12:15:24] <Ezko> APlayer: i didn't
though :))))))
L519[12:15:29] <Raazeer> the only ones I
could get barely have the threads filed off.
L520[12:15:37] <Blaank> Wind shear is a
fact of life. It being bad enough to actually matter seems
rare.
L521[12:15:44] *
Scolar_Visari notes the middle Diamondback is the Scout
configuration and the other two are Explorers.
L522[12:15:58] <APlayer> Anyway, we'll
just blame written conversation troubles and consider everyone
nice
L523[12:16:09] <Ezko> Blaank: have you
heard of the jet stream shortening 10 hour flights by over an
hour?
L524[12:16:19] <Blaank> Yes, that's just
wind.
L525[12:16:20] <ve2dmn> Blaank: if I
remember correctly, the fire created a 'seal' by melting melting
and glass over the problem, and the wind shear re-opened the
fissure enough for a fire to be projected in the direction of the
main tank
L526[12:16:28] <Ezko> sure the air is much
thinner at that altitude, but it's moving a lot faster there
L527[12:16:34] <Althego> generally
westward flights are a bit longer than eastward. probably because
of those jets
L528[12:16:37] <ve2dmn> ... but my memory
is fuzzy on the suject
L529[12:16:43] <Althego> at least that was
my experience
L530[12:17:11] <Tank2333> when is take
off?
L531[12:17:13] <Ezko> Althego: i think the
scheduled flight times have like an hour difference at 10
hours
L532[12:17:28] <Tank2333> lift off
L533[12:17:47] <Althego> i based this on
hungary-germany and germany-canada trips
L534[12:17:51] <Ezko> Tank2333: current
t-0 is bit under 2 hours from now
L536[12:17:59] <Althego> yes 112 minutes
now
L537[12:18:01] <Althego> maybe
L538[12:18:06] <Tank2333> okay
L539[12:18:08] <Althego> 111
L540[12:18:10] <Tank2333> nice
L541[12:18:21] *
Scolar_Visari ponders Tesla Roadster impacting surface of
Mars.
L542[12:18:22] <ve2dmn> unless weather
decided to be an idiot again
L543[12:18:29] <Althego> it wont hit
L544[12:18:30] <APlayer> Actually, T+a few
years already, but let's be optimistic regarding the launch time
:D
L546[12:18:51] <Althego> launch window to
mars is not 2 hours usually
L547[12:18:59] <Althego> so they can try
tomorrow
L548[12:19:12] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: The
Weather cannot decide anything, we haven't completed The Weather
Paradigm secret project yet.
L549[12:19:15] <ve2dmn> APlayer: Falcon
Full thrust is actually as powerful as the original plans for
Falcon Heavy (if my memory is right)
L550[12:19:22] <Deddly> Yeah they can try
tomorrow, but today's window is 2 hours, apparently
L551[12:19:35] <Blaank> I know what wind
shear is. The only thing I was asking is if they are delaying the
rocket because of wind shear at high altitudes.
L552[12:19:37] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
That's what they WANT you to think.
L553[12:19:47] <Deddly> Blaank, oh.
yes
L554[12:19:52] <Althego> probably because
of erath rotation and inclination and stuff
L555[12:19:57] <APlayer> ve2dmn: Even
considering that FH was initially planned to be
asparagus-staged?
L556[12:20:01] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: If
they did, I would've gotten a little pop-up reminding me.
L557[12:20:26] <Scolar_Visari> Though The
Human Genome Project's already been researched.
L558[12:21:09] <Althego> with fuel flow
from the boosters to the core
L559[12:21:37] *
Scolar_Visari still aims to get the free technology unlock with
Secrets of the Human Brain, if only to spite Kurzweil.
L560[12:21:44] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
yes. A few years ago. I'm waiting for the pop-up for the "Cure
for Cancer"
L561[12:21:59] <Althego> you do know there
is no such thing as THE cancer
L562[12:22:14] <Althego> there are a
multitude of mechanisms
L563[12:22:18] <Althego> some of them are
curable now
L564[12:22:20] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Poppycock! It's all the same! My techtree says so!
L565[12:22:32] <ve2dmn> Althego: ^
L566[12:23:19] <Scolar_Visari> The
Longevity Vaccine is also a thing, because you can totes immunize
yourself against aging!
L567[12:23:48] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
yes. It's called not living or the singularity
L568[12:24:30] <Scolar_Visari> The
Singularity doesn't prevent death, as Ashes of the Singularity has
shown.
L569[12:24:37] <ve2dmn> ...Although I
think that's only in Stellaris
L570[12:25:18] <Scolar_Visari> Robotic
leaders in Stellaris can still die given particular events.
L571[12:25:32] <ve2dmn> yes, but no more
aging!
L572[12:26:14] <Scolar_Visari> Likewise,
you don't need to resort to robotics for immortality. Psionic
leaders can become The Chosen and get a immortality modifier in
addition to a Unity bonus.
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L577[12:29:20] <kmath> YouTube - Viking
Gods CK2 Viking Metal DLC
L578[12:29:32] *
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upcoming update.
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L580[12:30:41] <Scolar_Visari> At least
Mass Relays are in it?
L581[12:31:17] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: I
think the Jump drives are kept as a late-game stuff
L582[12:31:57] <Scolar_Visari> ve2mn:
They're supposed to function as hyperdrives but with the option of
pre-update jump drives albeit with ridiculous cooldown
timers.
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L584[12:32:24] <Scolar_Visari> I can see a
lot of mods, "restoring" old FTL propulsion in spite of
the upcoming colonization mechanics.
L585[12:32:46] <ve2dmn> you know that you
don't have to type-out my name if your client support
tab-completion?
L586[12:33:04] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: I
don't like using the tab button.
L587[12:33:25] <Scolar_Visari> It's
haunted by the ghosts of alt-tab past.
L588[12:33:28] <ve2dmn> I spend my days in
bash. Tab is friend. Tab is life
L589[12:33:46] *
ve2dmn shiver.
L590[12:33:53] <ve2dmn> I understand your
pain
L591[12:34:53] <Scolar_Visari> Psi Corps =
Tab!?
L592[12:35:36] <Tank2333> Hail Tap
god
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L594[12:35:58] <Scolar_Visari> Also
getting launch time for FH NET 3:15 EST.
L595[12:36:16] <ve2dmn> All hail the Holy
Command Line!
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L597[12:36:57] <Scolar_Visari> Wait . . .
Cities Skylines has a free weekend on Steam. Last I checked,
Tuesday is not the weekend.
L599[12:37:36] <Scolar_Visari> What
nonsense is this!?
L601[12:38:17] <kmath> YouTube - Stellaris
OST - Faster Than Light Feat. Mia Steagmar
L602[12:39:44] <Scolar_Visari> I would
hope that the new mass relay mechanic would make multiple galaxy
maps more tenable.
L603[12:40:35] <Fluburtur> why is it with
peoples re-streaming streams that are already on youtube
L604[12:40:51] <Fluburtur> I can watch the
stream on the spacex channel why go on some weird channel
L605[12:41:05] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: trying
to get views to get traffic to get front page to get $
L606[12:41:21] <Kalpa> Scolar_Visari:
Didn't you know? Free weekends begin on thursday and end on
wednesday!
L607[12:41:28] <Fluburtur> ok so it's just
idiotic and useless
L608[12:41:30] <Kalpa> Or some obscure
stuff like that :P
L609[12:41:38] <ve2dmn> It's all the
$
L610[12:41:47] <Scolar_Visari> Kalpa:
Amusingly, Fallout 4 was free-to-play this last weekend.
L611[12:42:40] <Scolar_Visari> Then I
remembered I did not like Fallout 3 and passed for more Total War
Warhammer II shenanigans.
L612[12:43:03] <Scolar_Visari> Ghouls?
More like whiny Tomb Kings amirite?
L613[12:43:11] <Iskierka> Total Warwar
Hammer
L614[12:43:13] <Mathuin> I <3 Fallout
Fallout Fallout, but from what I've read the fourth in the series
is lame.
L615[12:43:35] <ve2dmn> Mathuin: I really
like Fallout 2
L616[12:43:44] <Scolar_Visari> Mathuin:
The only true 3d Fallout title is New Vegas.
L617[12:43:53] <Mathuin> I haven't had the
time to play 1 or 2, partly because I haven't had the right machine
at the right time.
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L619[12:44:11] <NolanSyKinsley> Right
machine for fallout 1 and 2?
L620[12:44:12] <Mathuin> Scolar_Visari:
that's a very persuasive argument.
L621[12:44:14] <Scolar_Visari> Iskierka:
Total Waaaghammer.
L622[12:44:18] <Deddly> Interesting, they
are actually going for fairing recovery
L623[12:44:19] <Scolar_Visari> Mathuin: MY
LOGIC IS UNDENIABLE
L624[12:44:21] <NolanSyKinsley> Could
probably be played on a calculator
L625[12:44:21] <Mathuin> NolanSyKinsley:
yeah, we're a Linux shop at home.
L627[12:44:39] <NolanSyKinsley> I am linux
only and I played em
L628[12:44:59] <Scolar_Visari> Mathuin:
Needs bigger fairing.
L629[12:45:46] <Scolar_Visari> Iskierka:
Seriously though, Tomb Kings are good fun. Expendable infantry and
pyramid-loads of statue monsters? Yes please.
L630[12:45:46] <Mathuin> If they recover
the fairing, they'll get back everything but the payload and the
second stage, right?
L631[12:45:55] <NolanSyKinsley>
correct
L632[12:46:06] <Scolar_Visari> Mathuin:
Well, that and a few explosive bolts.
L633[12:46:12] <Mathuin> And the fuel, but
eh
L634[12:46:24] *
Scolar_Visari pictures explosive bolts getting tiny little
parachutes.
L635[12:46:40] <APlayer> Stream was reset
to T-2:00:00 again
L636[12:46:46] <NolanSyKinsley> Launch
pushed back again it seems, 12:45 pst stream starts
L637[12:46:57] <APlayer> Ninja'd :p
L638[12:47:03] <Draconiator> lol
L639[12:47:11] <Blaank>
ffffffffffffff
L640[12:47:15] <Blaank> never ever
L641[12:47:20] <Mathuin> Hrm! Why might
these parts resist name tag changes?
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L643[12:47:48] <Draconiator> Hey
math...your parts are showing
L644[12:47:49] *
Scolar_Visari is amused by the new Warhammer fantasy games in spite
of the Age of Sigmar reboot.
L645[12:47:50] <Draconiator> :P
L646[12:48:19] <ve2dmn> Blaank: Soon
(tm)
L647[12:48:20] <Blaank> How much dV
wiggleroom do they have? Could they do a launch 12 hours opposite
the window?
L648[12:48:30] <Blaank> soon™
L649[12:48:40] <Blaank> soon
[alt+0153]
L650[12:48:49] <Blaank> I memorized the
alt code for that.
L651[12:48:50] <Mathuin> The restrictions
might not just be deltaV. They may only have paid the Air Force and
others for this window.
L652[12:49:04] <Blaank> Hmm.... good
point.
L653[12:49:12] <Blaank> Unsanctioned
launches have a fine of how much?
L654[12:49:18] <Iskierka> dV is non-issue.
look at payload mass
L655[12:49:21] <Mathuin> Probably loss of
permits
L656[12:49:27] <Scolar_Visari> Blaank:
None at all. The exact time is not a matter of launch windows, but
the recommendations of the augers. You see, rocket launches cannot
be conducted in inauspicious conditions.
L657[12:49:44] <Mathuin> Right-click part,
see Change Name Tag, left-click button, nothing happens.
L658[12:49:44] <Blaank> what
L659[12:50:03] <Scolar_Visari> I am told
that Elon Musk has Etruscan priests brought to the Cape to read the
entrails of local fauna and movement of flocks of birds to
determine the correct time for launching.
L660[12:50:07] <Blaank> And what stops
Elon from launching without a permit?
L661[12:50:26] <Blaank> What stops him
from holding all world leaders hostage with spent booster
stages?
L662[12:50:34] <Scolar_Visari> Blaank: The
anger of the rocketry gods will smite his vehicle down.
L663[12:50:36] <Blaank> Landing a falcon 9
core on the white house.
L664[12:50:42] <Althego> eh 114 minutes
agian
L665[12:50:44] <Blaank> He could do
it.
L666[12:50:47] <Blaank> Nothing is
stopping him.
L667[12:50:57] <Scolar_Visari> Blaank:
Range safety would probably detonate the stage.
L668[12:50:57] <Mathuin> Hard to reuse the
business end of an ICBM.
L669[12:51:09] <Mathuin> Scolar_Visari: I
thought they didn't have range safety explosive stuff on SpaceX
gear.
L670[12:51:10] <ve2dmn> Blaank: it would
be a problem for his future mars plans
L671[12:51:13] <Eddi|zuHause> do the
priests say "wololo" and then the rocket changes
colour?
L672[12:51:22] <Scolar_Visari> Mathuin:
Why not? They've detonated them before!
L673[12:51:32] <Mathuin> WHen?
L674[12:51:42] <Scolar_Visari> When the
Falcon 9 grasshopper 'sploded, for one.
L675[12:51:42] <Pakaran> hmm
L676[12:51:50] <Blaank> >implying he
can't fly to space and rule over the world from there dropping
tungsten rods on critics.
L677[12:51:52] <Scolar_Visari> It was
initiated automatically.
L678[12:52:27] <Pakaran> I'm not sure
Roverdude's warp drive mod is sufficient for interstellar distances
in KSS. Especially given you can't time warp while under power (if
you could, 100k seconds would be reasonable enough)
L679[12:52:33] <Mathuin> Hmm. F9 has an
automated system to do that, previous launches from the Cape
required Air Force. Not sure about Grasshopper.
L680[12:53:02] <Deddly> Falcon Heavy
launch just got delayed again
L681[12:53:06] <Scolar_Visari> Mathuin:
The Grasshopper's computer detonated it automatically as well,
though I imagine SpaceX has the option for manual override.
L682[12:53:12] <Deddly> 3:45
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L684[12:53:25] <Pakaran> well, I can test
it with an infinite fuel sandbox craft or something.
L685[12:53:29] <Deddly> But "Launch
auto-sequence initiated"
L689[12:54:34] <Mathuin> hahaha
L690[12:54:46] <Mathuin> But it looks like
that was the only time it's happened.
L691[12:56:02] <Scolar_Visari> SpaceX
CRS-7 had a range safety destruct signal sent to it, albeit after
the carrier vehicle had already detonated.
L692[12:56:33] <Blaank> I think one time
the range safety detonation was sent like a minute after it blew up
as a formality.
L693[12:56:43] <Pakaran> ok, yeah, from
Kerbol to The All would apparently be about 10^6 seconds at the
speed of light. reasonable if and only if time-warping is
possible.
L694[12:56:57] <Scolar_Visari> Well, you
don't want some idiot poking fallen high explosives with a
stick.
L695[12:58:11] <Mathuin> The article I
read theorized that toxic fuel in the ocean was the reason to send
the signal after breakup.
L698[12:58:59] <Scolar_Visari> Mathuin:
Psht. I'm sure that stuff's good for ya'.
L699[12:59:25] <Pakaran> I could just
remove Alcubierre Drive mod and install KSPIE...
L700[13:00:03] <Pakaran> thing is I don't
know how well it would work with RoverDude's mods, what with things
like tritium... hmm
L701[13:02:44] *
Scolar_Visari ponders going back to more Waaaghammer as launch will
probably delay into oblivion.
L702[13:03:02] <Scolar_Visari> Or back to
Stellaris?
L703[13:03:17] <Scolar_Visari> ;choose
Stellaris:Warhammer II
L704[13:03:23] <Scolar_Visari> Bleh.
L705[13:03:31] <ve2dmn> why not
both?
L706[13:04:48] <Scolar_Visari> Well I *do*
have two monitors.
L707[13:05:00] <Scolar_Visari> Well,
actually, ones a TV for viewing during Elite long-hauls.
L708[13:05:01] <ve2dmn> Stellaris with the
Warhammer mods?
L709[13:05:11] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Yes, but it's *fantasy* Warhammer!
L710[13:05:29] <ve2dmn> pff. Space Elves
are best elves
L711[13:05:30] *
Scolar_Visari still should probably finish the Elder Scrolls mod
for Stellaris despite the upcoming update.
L712[13:05:53] <Iskierka> depending on
what it might not conflict
L713[13:06:22] <Scolar_Visari> Iskierka:
Yes, Stellaris already has the Warp, but it does not have proper
Lizardmen.
L714[13:06:36] <Pakaran> heh
L716[13:07:51] <Scolar_Visari> Iskierka:
Lizardmen! Not dinosaurs! Where are the Slaan? Think of the
Skinks!
L721[13:08:54] <Fluburtur> heh
L722[13:09:08] *
Scolar_Visari sighs because Krog-Gar and Mazdamundi cannot be
included in the same army from the beginning.
L723[13:09:27] <darsie> How can you start
KSP on a Mac directly, not from within steam?
L724[13:09:50] <ve2dmn> darsie: from the
finder?
L725[13:11:05] <ve2dmn> or maybe using the
command line. It's a mon app after all
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L728[13:11:58] <ve2dmn> mono app *
L729[13:12:16] *
Scolar_Visari also dreads having to fight the Lizardmen as any
other race. Saurus Warriors cut through skeleton spearmen like hot
obsidian blades through crumbly feta.
L730[13:14:17] <Scolar_Visari> Though it's
less, "cut" and more, "bludgeon through with
uncontrollable rage"
L732[13:14:34] <Pakaran> because messing
around in sandbox is important, heh
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L735[13:17:32] <Draconiator> I ALWAYS use
sandbox mode.
L736[13:17:48] <Draconiator> can come up
with some pretty insane things in there.
L737[13:17:54] <Mathuin> The VAB requires
an upgrade for name tags. SIgh.
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L741[13:22:37] <Fluburtur> if the rocket
is going faster than the wind it won't see the wind then
right?
L742[13:23:23] <ve2dmn> it won't see it as
wind no. It will be like a wall of air
L743[13:23:48] <Fluburtur> shhh
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L751[13:55:38] <ve2dmn> TIL that yodobashi
has their own TLD
L752[13:56:50] <Althego> what is
yodobashi
L753[14:02:12] <ve2dmn> Camera store in
Japan
L754[14:02:38] <ve2dmn> with VERY annoying
store music
L755[14:04:03] <ve2dmn> That plays in a
loop
L756[14:06:22] <ve2dmn> Do not search for
Yodobachi Camera them music. It's super cheezy and you'll nver be
able to get it out of your head
L757[14:06:31] <ve2dmn> theme*
L758[14:13:00] <APlayer> Stream is now
closer than ever to starting :D
L759[14:13:24] <Althego> hehe
L761[14:14:03] <kmath> <elonmusk>
Launch auto-sequence initiated (aka the holy mouse-click) for 3:45
liftoff #FalconHeavy
L762[14:15:31] <Althego> strange
music
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L764[14:15:45] <ve2dmn> started
L765[14:16:11] <Mathuin> Woo!
L766[14:16:13] <APlayer> You're gold for
notifying me
L767[14:16:37] <APlayer> Let's have a
moment of silence for this launch to be successful :D
L768[14:16:55] <EricPoehlsen> yay live
stream started, good sign :D
L769[14:18:01] <NolanSyKinsley> Webcast is
live!
L770[14:18:11] <Tank2333> can someone ping
me if it goes realy live?
L771[14:18:17] <NolanSyKinsley> also take
note at the bottom right, they have 2 feeds now and you can select
between them!
L772[14:18:45] <Tank2333> oh didnt know
that
L773[14:19:00] <TheUnamusedFox> Jeez,
455000 people watching
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L775[14:19:22] <Tank2333> 455000 potential
customers. not.
L776[14:20:20] <Mathuin> investors,
employees, but not customers.
L777[14:20:49] <Tank2333> yeah
L778[14:21:25] <Tortoise767> 24 minutes to
launch :o
L779[14:21:38] <NolanSyKinsley> over 500k
now
L780[14:23:04] <APlayer> LOL, I am having
a video suggestion about the FH launch with a smiling Elon preview
and a quote on it saying "Either way, it will be
exciting"
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L783[14:23:15] <APlayer> This 100%
describes my attitude right now
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L785[14:23:43] <APlayer> Also, stream
intro just started
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L787[14:23:48] <ve2dmn> Time to 'check yo
staging'
L788[14:23:57] <NolanSyKinsley> Tank2333,
stream just went live
L789[14:24:06] <Tank2333> thx
L790[14:24:16] <Ezko> that's a lot of
boiloff
L791[14:24:45] <EricPoehlsen> I have the
EverydayAstronaut Livestream on the second screen ;)
L792[14:24:56] <APlayer> Anyway, see you
after the launch, I am not missing a single second to chit-chat
:P
L793[14:25:27] <Ezko> technical webcast
plz
L794[14:25:56] <Ezko> this cheering is so
annoying
L795[14:27:41] <Fluburtur> woooo mister
knees
L796[14:27:48] <NolanSyKinsley> Ezko,
bottom right, you can switch the feed to the countdown net
audio
L797[14:27:52] <Pakaran> .nextlaunch
L798[14:29:40] <Tank2333> 830k not
bad
L800[14:29:46] <Ezko> thanks
NolanSyKinsley
L801[14:30:01] <Ezko> so that's why
there's no separate technical webcast anymore
L802[14:30:29] <oren> why is it not
showing the rocket
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L804[14:31:18] <tawny> obviously because
the rocket is a FAKE WEATHER BALLOON and they have to reinflate it
real quick
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L806[14:31:47] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: Support the Kerbal Space Program today and BUY
LAUNCH BONDS!
L807[14:31:50] <oren> On the fox 5 stream
I hear bowie
L808[14:32:00] <EricPoehlsen> nearly a
million viewers on the lifestream
L809[14:32:09] <Scolar_Visari> oren: I
hope it's not Space Oddity. That would be a poor choice of song for
a launch.
L810[14:32:30] <Mathuin> "two if by
land, one if by sea"
L811[14:32:37] <oren> I don't speak bowie
so I dunno
L812[14:32:46] <tawny> maybe it's the
hadfield version?
L813[14:33:10] <Scolar_Visari> oren: Space
Oddity was about a one Major Tom who ended up dying.
L814[14:33:24] <tawny> I'm guessing it's
life on mars
L815[14:33:40] <tawny> ....I guess I have
a TV, I could go check
L816[14:33:53] *
Scolar_Visari notes that Major Tom's space ship did not know where
to go.
L817[14:33:58] <oren> lol the fox 5 stream
also has a ton of Elon
L818[14:34:04] <oren> s turkish fans
L819[14:36:03] <Ezko> hmm countdown net
doesn't have timer
L820[14:36:14] <Tortoise767> T-9
L821[14:36:22] <Scolar_Visari> Feral Orcs
> Skeletons.
L822[14:36:24] <EricPoehlsen> hmm I think
they actually put a kerbal on a mini roadster :D
L823[14:36:35] <Scolar_Visari> Dat
physical damage resistance.
L824[14:36:49] <EricPoehlsen> that would
be fun
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L826[14:37:21] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy:
You missed it. There was discussion of lizardmen. In. SPACE
L827[14:37:39] <Supernovy> ooh I'm glad
I'm not a Visari
L828[14:37:40] <Scolar_Visari> Oh, and
some one got the daft idea to tape three rockets together.
L829[14:37:57] <Scolar_Visari> Not nearly
as interesting as cold blooded killers riding dinosaurs (in
space).
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L831[14:38:06] <oren> fox 5 uses VLC
L832[14:38:11] <oren> lolololol
L833[14:39:28] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy:
And, "a" Visari? There's only one after the events of
Killzone 2, as far as I'm concerned. Not to be confused with the
Vasari of Sins of a Solar Empire fame or famed Italian polymath
Giorgio Vasari.
L834[14:39:49] <Raazeer> so, who's
watching the falcon heavy launch?
L835[14:39:55] <Raazeer> or should I ask
who's not?
L836[14:40:08] <Scolar_Visari> Raazeer:
It's all just CGI. Rockets don't space!
L837[14:40:15] <Ezko> i agree
Scolar_Visari
L838[14:40:22] <ve2dmn> Raazeer: with 1.3
millions actives views
L839[14:40:24] <Ezko> pretty impressive
graphics if you ask me
L840[14:40:33] <ve2dmn> make that
1.5millions
L841[14:40:48] <Scolar_Visari> Ezko: Not
as good as Orbiter, really.
L842[14:40:53] <tawny> don't be
ridiculous, the liberal media can't afford CGI, they just found a
really big tall bird and put a hat on it
L843[14:40:54] <Tortoise767> Probably all
of us @Raazeer
L844[14:41:05] <EricPoehlsen> + all the
people who watch on TV and not the SpaceX Livestream
L845[14:41:07] <tawny> and then taped two
other big tall birds to its side
L846[14:41:15] <Scolar_Visari> tawny: Big
Bird Heavy.
L847[14:41:35] <Ezko> Scolar_Visari: yeah
but they'll get better
L848[14:42:01] <Ezko> can't see excrement
captain
L849[14:43:07] <Scolar_Visari> Somewhat
Bigger Bird Heavy
L850[14:43:14] <TheUnamusedFox> Almost two
million viewers
L851[14:43:36] *
Scolar_Visari wonders why stream did not default to, "Better
Than Real Life" resolution.
L852[14:43:36] <mrBlaQ>
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
L853[14:43:40] <Tank2333> ITS
HAPPENNING
L854[14:43:45] <APlayer> Godspeed, little
big rocket!
L855[14:43:52] <EricPoehlsen> yay :D
L856[14:43:58] <APlayer> Also, yes, IT'S
HAPPENING! :D
L857[14:44:04] <petti> I love how the
narration stopped
L858[14:44:15] <Scolar_Visari> Only a
minute left? Geeze, time flies when you're messing with time
dilation.
L859[14:44:25] *
Scolar_Visari should probably not orbit so close to a black
hole.
L860[14:44:31] <ve2dmn> 1.9 million
viewers
L861[14:44:41] <APlayer> Stream
lagging/stopped for me :/
L862[14:44:57] <Tank2333> 10s
L863[14:44:58] <Althego> here it
comes
L864[14:45:00] *
Scolar_Visari eagerly awaits fireworks.
L865[14:45:17] <ve2dmn> Liffoff!
L866[14:45:22] <Althego> go go go
L867[14:45:25] <EricPoehlsen> go
L868[14:45:32] <Althego> success already
by elon'"s standards
L869[14:46:14] <Tank2333> its flying
down!
L870[14:46:16] <Tank2333> :)
L871[14:46:25] <Scolar_Visari> As it turns
out, putting two more rockets on the sides increases thrust.
L872[14:46:26] <Tank2333> flat earth
confirmed
L873[14:46:58] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
moar boosters confirmed
L874[14:47:14] <Tortoise767>
WOOOOOOOHHH
L875[14:47:32] *
Scolar_Visari ponders if the FH engineers are relieved that their
KSP Unity 5 simulations of the connecting struts worked in real
life.
L876[14:47:57] <Althego> it didnt
kerbal
L877[14:48:00] <EricPoehlsen> yay
L878[14:48:02] <Tank2333> no
L879[14:48:05] <Althego> where the
boosters nose hiot the core
L880[14:48:06] <Tank2333> no
explosion
L881[14:48:09] <Tank2333> i want
refund
L882[14:48:33] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Nonsense. They simply quick-loaded after several explosions.
L883[14:48:36] <Althego> lol
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L885[14:48:41] <EricPoehlsen> second
engine ignited
L886[14:48:51] <Althego> so it will
probably work now
L887[14:49:05] <Althego> for the
landing
L888[14:49:06] <Scolar_Visari> Whatever
the fate of the core stages, we now must deal with the ethical
concerns of having placed a car into deep space.
L889[14:49:08] <Althego> that is
different
L890[14:49:20] <Althego> hahaha the
car
L891[14:49:20] <mrBlaQ> ARGH!
L892[14:49:22] <Tank2333> lol
L893[14:49:27] <Tank2333> dont panic
lol
L894[14:49:32] <Althego> lol
L895[14:49:37] <Althego> i was typing that
to discord
L896[14:49:54] *
Scolar_Visari begins to ponder if the car will return to Earth on
its backswing or be perturbed into a permanent heliocentric
orbit.
L897[14:50:10] <Supernovy> glad it wasn't
N-1 2: Korolevtric Boogaloo
L898[14:50:13] <Supernovy> with all those
engines
L899[14:50:17] <Althego> hehe
L900[14:50:27] <Althego> only one of those
engines failed yet
L901[14:50:37] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy:
The vibration of 27 engines would be rather unpleasant.
L902[14:50:45] <Althego> there is a good
ttrack record
L903[14:50:50] <Tank2333> maybe the tesla
comes back to earth like vyger in sta trek 1
L904[14:51:06] <Althego> hehe
L905[14:51:16] <Tank2333> sentient all
that :)
L906[14:51:23] <Althego> or oyage and pion
in the whatsitsname anime
L907[14:51:24] <Tank2333> "where is
my master"
L908[14:51:27] <Scolar_Visari> Tank2333:
No, it would return as a Model S.
L909[14:51:30] <Ezko> speed data on all
would be nice
L910[14:51:51] <Althego> (v)oyage(r) and
pion(eer) as funny ai androids
L911[14:51:58] <Tank2333> Ezko they need a
unity upgrade for that
L912[14:52:01] *
Scolar_Visari notes that sending a tank would've been a better
demonstration of the maximum lifting capabilities.
L913[14:52:28] <Scolar_Visari> You could
probably get a Sherman tank into orbit without ditching the
boosters?
L914[14:52:35] <Tank2333> scolar but not
60 tons to mars
L915[14:52:53] <Scolar_Visari> Tank2333:
No, but that would be about a modern MBT.
L916[14:53:18] <Althego> haha i can see
the flame from the other booster from the camera
L917[14:53:20] <Tank2333> i thought they
where delaying them
L918[14:53:20] <Althego> of the one
L919[14:53:23] <Althego> and tehy
landed
L920[14:53:25] <Althego> operfectly
L921[14:53:27] <Ezko> Tank2333: ah
right
L922[14:53:35] <EricPoehlsen> they
actually did it syncronous - wow
L923[14:53:40] <Scolar_Visari> Huh, they
landed at the same time. Just like in KSP.
L924[14:53:47] <Althego> there was
something about 15 sec difference
L925[14:53:53] <Althego> but now they did
it at the same
L926[14:54:01] <Althego> as usual no
image
L927[14:54:06] <Althego> always
L928[14:54:11] <Althego> i think they are
cheating
L929[14:54:18] *
Scolar_Visari imagines the signal returning with lots of
fire.
L930[14:54:20] <Tank2333> me too
L931[14:54:23] <Tank2333> CGI
L932[14:54:39] <Supernovy> new Olympic
sport: synchronised booster landing
L933[14:54:41] <Scolar_Visari> Tank2333:
You can't launch objects beyond the Firmanent, silly!
L934[14:54:43] <Tank2333> at least they
say that they lost the signal :)
L935[14:54:46] <Althego> at least have an
external image from an other ship
L936[14:54:51] <Tank2333> not like some
other space company
L937[14:55:05] <Althego> which other
L938[14:55:10] <Althego> even if they lost
the core, it is nice
L939[14:55:11] <Scolar_Visari> Exploding
Rockets Co.
L940[14:55:13] <Althego> and there is the
car
L941[14:55:20] <Althego> wngine
cutoff
L942[14:55:20] <Tank2333> ariane?
L943[14:55:31] <Scolar_Visari> Tank2333:
Hey now, Ariane 5s are quite reliable.
L944[14:55:38] <Scolar_Visari> Also have a
better payload fairing.
L945[14:55:43] <Tank2333> im not talking
about the rocket
L946[14:55:44] <Althego> ok they used to
explode because of overflow error
L947[14:55:51] <Scolar_Visari> Tank2333:
Ariane Grande cannot into space.
L948[14:55:58] <Tank2333> no
L949[14:56:00] <Tank2333> ^^
L950[14:56:19] <Scolar_Visari> Even her
voice is insufficient for lifting payloads. Now if you combined her
with an Adele booster, we can talk.
L951[14:56:36] <oren> full successs
L952[14:56:40] <Tank2333> hello
L953[14:56:41] <Mod9000> Hello,
Tank2333
L954[14:56:45] <Mathuin> That was
amazing.
L955[14:56:47] <Scolar_Visari> Show the
stage. I wanna get back to cleansing the Badlands in the name of
Settra.
L956[14:56:52] <Mathuin> Seriously
amazing.
L957[14:57:20] <Scolar_Visari> Mathuin:
Well, it *would* have been amazing if it was, like, a
Lamborghini.
L958[14:57:24] <Tank2333> pretty cool
yeah
L959[14:57:46] <Scolar_Visari> But a Tesla
Roadster's just a Lotus plus batteries.
L960[14:57:47] <Tank2333> 2.2 mil
views
L961[14:58:01] <Mat2ch> Woah
L962[14:58:01] <Scolar_Visari> Tank2333:
Almost as much as my State of the Helghast Union.
L963[14:58:02] <Tortoise767> That was fing
amazing.
L964[14:58:04] <Supernovy> is there life
on Musk?
L965[14:58:08] <Tank2333> i guess its
without the li ion batteries
L966[14:58:39] <Mat2ch> did you see the
one problem with FH? :D
L967[14:58:47] <TheUnamusedFox> So... I
have no words
L968[14:58:49] <EricPoehlsen> so now all
that is left, is the injection burn in about six hours
L969[14:58:54] <Scolar_Visari> Tank2333: A
battery fire on the pad would've been an amusing way to prematurely
end a mission.
L970[14:58:57] <Tank2333> well maybe
ariane can Hello in Soundgarden
L971[14:59:00] <TheUnamusedFox> That
double landing was BEAUTIFULL
L972[14:59:16] <RandomJeb> I wonder if the
main stack is okay
L973[14:59:23] <Mat2ch> TheUnamusedFox:
for quite some time I thought they were showing us only the footage
of one booster :D
L974[14:59:26] <Scolar_Visari> RandomJeb:
Unknown.
L975[14:59:36] <Mathuin> Mat2ch: my secret
fear was that both were programmed for the same landing pad
L976[14:59:38] <RandomJeb> I'm watching
their twitter
L977[14:59:41] <Mat2ch> But did you see
the one major problem? ;)
L978[14:59:55] <Mat2ch> Mathuin: yeah, I
had that thought for a second, too :)
L979[14:59:59] <Mat2ch> Ok, here it
comes
L980[15:00:01] <Scolar_Visari> Mathuin:
Almost as bad as the Polyus launch incident.
L981[15:00:07] <Althego> i need to make my
braking burn to go back to the kerbin soi
L982[15:00:10] <Fluburtur> that double
landing was great
L983[15:00:13] <Mat2ch> the boosters
didn't separate simulatniously.
L984[15:00:20] <Blaank> Well it didn't
blow up.
L985[15:00:21] <Althego> i was just
plannign the maneuver when we hit 30 sec
L986[15:00:24] <Mat2ch> The pushed the
central core a bit around
L987[15:00:26] <Mat2ch> *They
L988[15:00:40] <APlayer> RandomJeb: I'd
appreciate a highlight if you see anything related to the center
stage
L989[15:00:44] <Supernovy> I wonder if
polyus is connected to polybius...
L990[15:00:45] <UmbralRaptor> So, boosters
recovered, core was stolen by @waywardboat?
L991[15:00:58] <Scolar_Visari> Mat2tch: If
you looked closely, they were pushed off of the main stage by tiny
people.
L992[15:01:07] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: Gremlins, of course.
L993[15:01:13] <UmbralRaptor> Supernovy:
via Tetris, maybe.
L994[15:01:26] <Supernovy> Of
course!
L995[15:02:38] *
Scolar_Visari actually recalls von Braun discussing manual
disconnection and casting off of spent cislunar rocket stages by
teams of astronauts prior to the invention of reliable explosive
bolts.
L996[15:02:46] <Blaank> So did the core
stage make it down?
L997[15:02:58] <Blaank> I think one of the
booster stages came down hard and bent a landing leg.
L998[15:02:59] <Scolar_Visari> Blaank:
Yes. Whether it survived or not has not been disclosed.
L999[15:03:02] <Blaank> It was tilting a
bit.
L1000[15:03:11] <EricPoehlsen> well of
course it came down
L1001[15:03:20] <Blaank> Make it down in
one piece.
L1003[15:04:36] <Blaank> It looks exactly
like the CG mockups. Coincindence? I think not!
L1004[15:04:47] <Scolar_Visari> Wake up
sheeples!
L1007[15:05:38] <APlayer> Wow, I was
ninja'd
L1008[15:05:54] <Tank2333> Flubadub was
faster
L1009[15:06:28] <Scolar_Visari> Does this
mean that we can now start working towards the Science
Victory?
L1010[15:06:37] <TheUnamusedFox> Any news
on schrodingers core?
L1011[15:06:46] <Scolar_Visari> It's
neither landed nor exploded into pieces.
L1012[15:06:52] <Scolar_Visari> It will
pick a state once we observe it.
L1013[15:06:52] <TheUnamusedFox> It
apparantly landed and crashed at the same time, according to many
different sources...
L1014[15:06:54] <Tank2333> Scolar_Visari
i thought nasa won already with STS 1
L1015[15:07:12] <Scolar_Visari> Tank2333:
Yeah, but, that was back when Alpha Centauri was the space victory.
Now it's Mars.
L1016[15:07:38] <Tank2333> never played
civ :) just watched some letsplays
L1017[15:07:52] <ve2dmn> Tank2333: what
are you waiting?
L1018[15:08:01] <Scolar_Visari> Tank2333:
Civilization V is best civilization.
L1019[15:08:24] <Tank2333> that is the
consense of the youtubers too :)
L1020[15:08:28] <Supercheese> Civ IV had
a really good modding scene a while back
L1021[15:08:28] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
Freeciv is the best fun/$ ratio
L1022[15:08:34] *
Scolar_Visari is still perturbed that Firaxis made Cleopatra the
leader of Egypt in spite of her being a Ptolemy.
L1023[15:08:43] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
You can't divide by zero, silly!
L1024[15:08:49] <Scolar_Visari> Freeciv
is UNDEFINED.
L1025[15:08:53] <Supercheese> I even
wrote a couple small mods and contributed to a larger one, but it's
a rather old game now
L1026[15:09:15] <Scolar_Visari>
Supercheese: Civ V has a rather extensive list of mods, too, though
I still wish Firaxis would've moved to a globe.
L1027[15:09:26] <UmbralRaptor>
Scolar_Visari: pls no. No undefined behavior.
L1028[15:09:35] <TheUnamusedFox>
According to a picture uplaoded by someone on /r/spacex IRC, the
core has landed... kind of
L1029[15:09:45] <TheUnamusedFox> A leg is
bent completely to hell
L1032[15:10:12] <Tank2333> oh lol
L1033[15:10:15] <Supercheese> wow, how is
that still standing?
L1034[15:10:15] <APlayer> I saw such a
core already
L1035[15:10:19] <oren> Scolar_Visari: the
leader of egypt should be akhenaten
L1036[15:10:23] <APlayer> Not sure if
that's the same or not
L1037[15:10:27] <ve2dmn> That looks like
an old video
L1038[15:10:31] <Scolar_Visari> oren: Sun
worshipping heretic!
L1039[15:10:45] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
Praise the sun!
L1040[15:10:55] <Supernovy> There's like
a thousand egyptian leaders, it's been around for a long
time.
L1041[15:11:04] <Scolar_Visari> oren:
It's not like there weren't other female leaders, either. Why they
chose the final Hellenic leader of a foreign dynasty continues to
elude me.
L1042[15:11:20] <Tank2333> but they have
to serve the plebs
L1043[15:11:31] <Tank2333> so ceopatra it
is
L1044[15:11:38] <Draconiator> Wow it's
workinggggg!
L1045[15:11:41] <TheUnamusedFox> Yeah, I
would take that with a grian of salt now that my surge of hype
induced adrenaline is over
L1046[15:12:01] <Scolar_Visari> Heck,
Hatshepsut was even in Civilization IV!
L1047[15:12:28] <TheUnamusedFox> That may
or may not be an old image someone decided to troll with, but I
think it's the current landing... I hope it's the current
landing
L1049[15:12:29] <kmath> YouTube - How Not
to Land an Orbital Rocket Booster
L1050[15:12:41] <Tank2333> the newer the
game the more uneducated the targeted players
L1051[15:12:48] <TheUnamusedFox> There
you go, don't trust anyone on the internet :(
L1052[15:12:52] <Tank2333> its law of
nature
L1053[15:12:54] <ve2dmn> Tank2333: sadly
:(
L1054[15:13:11] <Draconiator> TWO
BOOSTERS LANDED, the center core is left.
L1056[15:13:26] <kmath> YouTube - How Not
to Land an Orbital Rocket Booster
L1057[15:13:27] <Tank2333> ve2dmn hail to
the casual god
L1058[15:13:28] <Scolar_Visari> Tank2333:
Psht, Rome II was a vast improvement over Rome I history wise, but
that really didn't take much effort.
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L1060[15:14:03] <Tank2333> Scolar_Visari
true,... men did i love RTW 1
L1061[15:14:24] <Scolar_Visari> Tank2333:
Warhammer is best Total War.
L1062[15:14:37] <Tank2333> shogun 2 was
the last one i played
L1063[15:14:41] <Draconiator> And of
course these Flat Earth nerds are saturating the live YouTube Live
chat.
L1064[15:14:46] <Scolar_Visari> At least
sieges are now fun.
L1065[15:14:50] <Tank2333> i hae Rome 2,
i should get on it sometime
L1066[15:15:22] <ve2dmn> Draconiator:
what live chat? the official live chat was disabled
L1067[15:15:33] *
Scolar_Visari still ponders why CA chose to make ginormous cities
and castles with equally ginormous walls for sieges in every game
instead of going for smaller, more defensible
structures.
L1068[15:15:35] <Tank2333> ANY live
chat
L1069[15:16:05] <ve2dmn> .... sadly
right
L1070[15:16:09] <Draconiator> And
apparently the center one landed too.
L1071[15:16:31] <NolanSyKinsley>
Hopefully landed in one piece
L1073[15:17:07] <Ezko> i think that
there's a pretty good chance it blew up since no tweets or anything
yet
L1074[15:17:34] <Tank2333> im out for
now, cya guys
L1075[15:17:35] <Tank2333> 0/
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L1077[15:17:42] <Blaank> I'm going to go
with center core blew up.
L1078[15:17:53] <Blaank> they would have
said it was successful by now.
L1079[15:17:58] *
Scolar_Visari hated siege battles in Shogun 2 with upgraded
castles.
L1080[15:19:55] <Scolar_Visari> Wikipedia
says the fate of the core stage is still unknown.
L1081[15:21:25] <RandomJeb> well it got
close enough to the drone ship to shake it to lose telemetry so I'm
going with landed but tipped over
L1082[15:21:47] <RandomJeb> their twitter
has been quiet for 25 minutes now
L1083[15:21:58] *
UmbralRaptor guesses that the core splashed down hard and was
destroyed.
L1084[15:22:37] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: Sometimes they splashdown and float.
L1085[15:22:47] <APlayer> I sure want to
wait for news, but I've got to go now... See you guys! Also, I
guess, uh, congratulations on a nice launch?
L1086[15:23:00] <Scolar_Visari> APlayer:
Nice? How was it nice!? There were no explosions!
L1087[15:23:04] <Scolar_Visari> Worst.
Fireworks. Ever.
L1088[15:23:07] <Draconiator> The two
side ones landed okay
L1089[15:23:12] *
APlayer slaps Scolar_Visari
L1090[15:23:33] <APlayer> Anyway.
Bye!
L1091[15:23:37] <RandomJeb> have
fun
L1092[15:23:37] <Scolar_Visari> Elon Musk
promised 50/50 odds of fireworks!
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L1094[15:23:49] <RandomJeb> they should
have put a bomb in the roadster
L1095[15:24:02] <RandomJeb> blow it up if
no explosions
L1096[15:24:05] <Tortoise767> ^
L1097[15:24:11] <Scolar_Visari>
RandomJeb: A bomb in the passenger seat with a nice, visible
timer.
L1098[15:24:16] <RandomJeb> yes
L1099[15:24:28] <Supernovy> or literal
fireworks, stash a catherine wheel in the glovebox or
something
L1100[15:24:49] <Scolar_Visari>
"Okay guyz, I really didn't think this would work and my
automotive insurance doesn't cover orbital, so Imma gonna have
range safety detonate the Roadster."
L1101[15:25:09] <KrazyKrl> "Does
insurance pay if they can't inspect the debris?"
L1102[15:25:27] <Supernovy> "Road
safety. That's like Range Safety but for cars, right?"
L1103[15:25:28] <Scolar_Visari> KrazyKrl:
Allstate can. I think.
L1104[15:25:52] <Scolar_Visari>
Supernovy: Nothing says, "No DUI" like detonating one's
car for failing a breathalizer.
L1105[15:25:57] <Draconiator> This is
really exciting though...if you block out the chat....
L1106[15:26:03] <EricPoehlsen> hmm I
wonder if they used their fuel margin for the center core due to
wobble control
L1107[15:26:29] <Scolar_Visari>
Draconiator: Amusingly, the Falcon Heavy may not see much in the
way of launches.
L1108[15:26:43] <KrazyKrl> Except for
that passenger flyby of the moon in december.
L1109[15:26:46] <Supernovy> Only problem
is you have to avoid underpasses, because the escape tower is too
tall.
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L1111[15:26:52] <KrazyKrl> and those few
launches in march and april.
L1112[15:27:01] <Scolar_Visari> It was
envisioned long before improvements to the throw weight in the
standard Falcon 9s, and that puny payload fairing . . .
L1113[15:27:15] <EricPoehlsen> KrazyKrl:
they said they won't rate FH for human flights
L1114[15:27:31] <EricPoehlsen> they want
to go on to BFR next
L1115[15:28:19] <Scolar_Visari> Eric: A
cislunar flight on the Falcon Heavy was announced last year.
L1116[15:28:41] <Scolar_Visari> I am . .
. doubtful of it happening.
L1117[15:28:58] <Mathuin> Oh hey, did the
fairings get recovered as was planned?
L1118[15:29:09] <Draconiator> Center core
is gone, but still a HUGE success.
L1121[15:30:03] <EricPoehlsen> so there
is the mention of not rating the FH for manned flights
L1122[15:30:37] <Ezko> is shhtps like
super http secure
L1123[15:30:47] <Scolar_Visari> BFR
within the near futrue is even more doubtful.
L1124[15:31:01] <Scolar_Visari> Ezko:
Super Hyper.
L1125[15:31:13] <ve2dmn> Draconiator:
source?
L1126[15:31:44] <Draconiator> Just saw
people in chat say that.
L1127[15:31:50] <KrazyKrl> It's the
"Shh total protection system" Bulletproof earmuffs.
L1128[15:31:53] <Draconiator> but I don't
know for sure.
L1129[15:32:01] <Draconiator> Two side
ones landed though.
L1131[15:32:06] <EricPoehlsen> well there
is no success twitter post
L1132[15:32:30] *
Scolar_Visari winces at the suggested BFR first launch at
2022.
L1133[15:32:34] <EricPoehlsen> and
probably a 'major' success is better for future development than a
full success
L1134[15:32:37] <ve2dmn> Let's assume
it's a complete loss: Still impressive
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L1136[15:33:03] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Complete loss of all hands.
L1137[15:33:11] <EricPoehlsen> because if
everything goes well, you didn't bend the rules far enough :D
L1138[15:33:13] <Scolar_Visari> Those
poor, poor people.
L1139[15:33:25] <Draconiator> How does
this thing measure up to the Delta Heavy anyway?
L1140[15:33:32] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
complete loss of all Kerbals too
L1141[15:33:36] <Mathuin> Also, the flat
earth guy tried to take off, and failed. His steam rocket
didn't.
L1142[15:33:38] <Supernovy> well, for one
it starts with F instead of D.
L1143[15:33:47] <Scolar_Visari>
Draconiator: It's like two Delta IV Hs in terms of maximum payload
capacity, but with a punier payload fairing.
L1144[15:34:02] <KrazyKrl> delta IV heavy
is like 1/2 the cargo to LEO
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L1146[15:35:04] <EricPoehlsen> FH plays
its full potential when it is not at maximum capacity so the cores
can be retrieved
L1147[15:35:09] <Scolar_Visari> However,
the payload capacity with all stages reused is likely similar if
not smaller.
L1148[15:35:32] <Scolar_Visari> Also: The
Falcon Heavy upper stage is meh. Go all cryogens or go first
stage.
L1149[15:35:35] <Iskierka> *lesser.
Because we know it *must* always be smaller, because Falcon
fairing
L1150[15:35:42] <Draconiator> Here's what
Space.com has to say about it.
L1151[15:35:46] <Draconiator> In a sort
of cosmic dance, the three first-stage core boosters returned to
Earth much like SpaceX's Falcon 9 rockets have in the past. Two
boosters touched down at SpaceX landing sites at Cape Canaveral Air
Force Station near KSC. The third was scheduled to land on SpaceX's
drone-ship landing pad "Of Course I Still Love You,"
stationed in the Atlantic Ocean. However, the video feed on the
drone cut out before the booster se
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L1153[15:36:28] <Scolar_Visari> Iskierka:
The trick is to make denser payloads!
L1154[15:36:35] <KrazyKrl> Reusable GTO
cargo on the FH is ~6,000kg. Expendable GTO on a DIVH is
~14,220kg
L1155[15:36:42] *
Scolar_Visari imagines a larger payload fairing would require a
redesigned upper stage.
L1156[15:36:57] <KrazyKrl> Expendable GTO
on FH is ~22,000kg
L1157[15:37:04] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
nah. just more space tape
L1158[15:37:14] <Iskierka> It requires
the whole rocket to be redesigned as it's an issue with the
fineness ratio
L1159[15:37:23] <Iskierka> which you
can't significantly affect on only the upper stage
L1160[15:37:35] <Scolar_Visari> Iskierka:
Psht, the Atlas V!
L1161[15:37:47] <Iskierka> has way less
fineness than Falcon 9
L1162[15:37:48] <Fluburtur> I feel like
they could have launched more cars
L1163[15:37:57] <EricPoehlsen> well as
side dish, they propably get some nice data from their suit
L1164[15:38:13] <Scolar_Visari>
Fluburtur: I was hoping for a tank.
L1165[15:38:30] <Fluburtur> would have
been pretty cool
L1167[15:38:37] <Fluburtur> or that
spitfire for funkirk
L1168[15:38:39] <Scolar_Visari>
Fluburtur: A Sherman Tank in orbit.
L1169[15:38:40] <Iskierka> which is
probably why they're not going ahead with human-rating and such.
Kinda realising FH is dead in the water and doesn't have much
market, so they're moving past it to BFR
L1170[15:38:43] <Fluburtur> or that one
dr who episode
L1171[15:38:54] <Scolar_Visari> Iskierka:
They made the Falcon 9 too well!
L1172[15:39:29] *
Scolar_Visari remembers talk of the Falcon Heavy being avoided
entirely come up many years ago as the Falcon 9 payload capacities
improved to facilitate reuse.
L1173[15:39:30] <KrazyKrl> FH imo is a
cheap way to the outer solar system. BFR is the terrestrial
spaceplane/Lunar stuff.
L1174[15:39:44] <Draconiator> No news yet
on the third core...I'ma make some burgers
L1175[15:39:48] <Scolar_Visari> KrazyKrl:
Eh . . . It's not really good for lifting things like a larger
vehicle with better payload fairing.
L1176[15:40:17] <Scolar_Visari> Which is
why SpaceX never really discussed using any of the Falcon rockets
for stuff like that.
L1178[15:40:36] <kmath> YouTube - Live
Views of Starman
L1179[15:40:40] <Scolar_Visari> Also: 50
tons maximum for payloads make designing stuff like deep space
vehicles a pain.
L1180[15:40:57] <EricPoehlsen> I would
assume the third core lost - and as mentioned before - a major
partial success is probably better for future development
L1181[15:41:08] <Scolar_Visari> Eric: A
partially successful failure.
L1182[15:41:15] <EricPoehlsen> than a
full success on the first test
L1183[15:41:40] <Althego> wow live
L1184[15:41:54] <Althego> take that flat
earthers
L1185[15:42:00] <Scolar_Visari> KrazyKrl:
Mass gain in aerospace projects is a serious issue during R&D,
and I can think that trying to fit something (like say, a nuclear
thermal rocket core) would be a pain with just 50 tons to work with
an no wiggle room.
L1187[15:42:00] <kmath>
<arnaldocapo> That moment when you realize that the center
core didn't make it but they say to shut up and tell no one.…
https://t.co/gb1KzJdQGq
L1188[15:42:01] <Althego> quite far
away
L1189[15:42:09] <Althego> so i take the
trans mars injection happened already
L1190[15:42:33] <Mathuin> Althego: not
for a few hours as per Twitter.
L1191[15:42:34] <Althego> i wonder if the
suite is pressurized
L1192[15:42:48] <Mathuin> Another five
hours until the burn.
L1193[15:42:50] <Althego> to use this as
atest
L1194[15:42:52] <Althego> heh
L1195[15:43:05] *
Scolar_Visari is still wary of the BFR's proposed Mars
architecture.
L1196[15:43:19] <Althego> ah 7000 km
apogeee
L1197[15:43:31] <Scolar_Visari>
"Hey, let's launch our crew into space and then hope our three
refueling flights are all successful and on time!"
L1198[15:44:22] <Althego> so is that 5
hours because of trajectory precision or is it a test for the suite
or something
L1199[15:44:29] <EricPoehlsen> they will
do the injection burn at apogee to demonstrate geostationary
injection capability
L1201[15:44:31] <kmath> YouTube - Live
Views of Starman
L1202[15:44:57] <Althego> or maybe it is
for the craft
L1203[15:46:08] <Althego> hehe i wanted
to press . so that earth rotates into view faster :)
L1205[15:46:26] <kmath> YouTube - Falcon
Heavy Test Flight - Countdown Net Audio
L1206[15:46:40] <EricPoehlsen> there is
the confirmation of the lost center core
L1207[15:47:10] <EricPoehlsen> at
38:30
L1208[15:47:14] <Fluburtur> I want to see
the video of the boom
L1209[15:47:57] <Scolar_Visari> The Core
decided it really wanted to swim instead of land.
L1210[15:47:58] <Fluburtur> well it was a
long time sicne the blew up one
L1211[15:48:19] <Blaank> Same, I want to
see boom.
L1212[15:48:27] <Scolar_Visari> Blaank:
Hey, I came to watch all three explode.
L1213[15:48:35] <Althego> the swimmer was
t he previous one
L1214[15:48:51] <Althego> it was dumped
into the sea but it survived lol
L1215[15:49:02] <Scolar_Visari> Yes, the
FH core was emulating its predecessor.
L1216[15:49:08] <Scolar_Visari> Though I
think all three of these cores were reused?
L1217[15:49:12] <Fluburtur> maybe it ran
out of fuel and finally sinked the ship
L1218[15:49:22] <Mat2ch> Scolar_Visari:
the center core was new
L1219[15:49:24] <Fluburtur> boosters were
reused
L1220[15:49:30] <Fluburtur> could see by
the grids
L1221[15:49:37] <Fluburtur> the ones of
the booster were already toasted
L1222[15:49:42] <Blaank> How long are the
batteries going to last on the orbiter?
L1223[15:49:43] <Scolar_Visari>
Fluburtur: They need moar paint.
L1224[15:49:51] <Blaank> And has it done
the mars transfer burn already?
L1225[15:49:58] <Scolar_Visari> Blaank:
It's a Tesla Roadster, so not very long.
L1226[15:50:11] <Fluburtur> Scolar_Visari
they didn't send the intern to scrubt eh grids with a
toothbrush
L1227[15:50:18] <Blaank> omg that is
beuatiful.
L1228[15:50:24] <Blaank> The earth.
L1230[15:51:15] <kmath> YouTube - Live
Views of Starman
L1232[15:52:31] <Blaank> why u no put
solar panels on it
L1233[15:53:02] <Althego> i can see the
deniers already
L1234[15:53:04] <Althego> where are the
stars
L1235[15:53:13] <darsie> How can you
start KSP on a Mac directly, not from within steam?
L1236[15:53:27] <Althego> on
anything
L1237[15:53:33] <Althego> it doesnt
depend on steam in any way
L1238[15:53:41] <Althego> you can even
just copy it out to a separate dirt
L1239[15:53:42] <darsie> I can't find it
in finder.
L1240[15:54:06] <Blaank> double click
ksp.exe in the steamapps/common/kerbal space program folder
L1241[15:54:48] <darsie> Blaank: Hmm, I'm
not at the mac rn ... I'll ask again, later.
L1242[15:55:02] <Blaank> I don't know how
that messed up stuff works.
L1243[15:56:02] <darsie> It's on a
friends mac, who's playing with my KSP.
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L1248[15:58:15] <EricPoehlsen> so I'm off
for the night, by
L1249[15:58:19] <EricPoehlsen> e
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L1251[16:01:42] <Althego> i think i wait
another earth view
L1252[16:01:43] <Scolar_Visari> Blaank:
Earth? Beautiful? Psht, I've seen plenty more pretty planets.
L1253[16:01:46] <Blaank> So we thinking
the tesla thing will be running for about 3 days?
L1254[16:01:59] <Althego> and then i got
to bed
L1255[16:02:40] <Supercheese> Requiescas
in partibus, O rucheta media
L1257[16:02:53] <Scolar_Visari>
Supercheese: Nothing is true, Every Payload is Permitted.
L1258[16:04:38] *
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Space.
L1261[16:07:47] <Althego> hehe
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L1263[16:08:51] <ve2dmn> Mathuin: I like
the comment about how the resell value of that car will be crap
with all the milage
L1264[16:09:27] <Fluburtur> plastic might
be a bit cracked with all the UV too
L1265[16:09:57] <ve2dmn> and no oil
change...
L1266[16:10:29] <Fluburtur> batteries
might be a bit used too
L1267[16:12:55] <Althego> dosnt matter
how damaged it gets
L1268[16:13:18] <Althego> there will be
somebody in maybe a few decades who gets the car back to sell it to
a museum or something
L1269[16:13:34] <ve2dmn> decade or
centuries
L1270[16:13:36] <Mathuin> It's a shame
the Hubble never made it back to the Smithsonian.
L1271[16:13:51] <Althego> no shuttle to
take it down
L1272[16:13:57] <Rokker> have y'all been
watching the livestream of the car?
L1273[16:14:05] <ve2dmn> yup
L1274[16:14:26] <ve2dmn> spot anything
interesting yet?
L1275[16:14:37] <Althego> lol
L1276[16:14:42] <Althego> what do you
mean
L1277[16:14:45] <Althego> it is just a
car
L1278[16:14:52] <Althego> earth is the
big attraction in the images
L1279[16:15:08] <Rokker> how dare
you
L1280[16:15:20] <Rokker> ve2dmn: the moon
made a guest appearance
L1282[16:16:11] <Rokker> Althego: car
> moon
L1283[16:16:24] <Althego> it always
surprises me how small the moon actually is
L1284[16:16:33] <Althego> somehow we see
it a lot bigger
L1285[16:16:42] <Althego> it only appears
small on camera images
L1286[16:16:53] <Deddly> AHEM, that is
not
just a car
L1287[16:17:19] <ve2dmn> It's just THE
car
L1288[16:17:47] <Deddly> Althego, the
moon appears small in a wide-angle lens. With a telephoto lens, the
moon can appear massive
L1290[16:18:27] <Fluburtur> I think my
small optical telescope has a focal lenght of about 800mm
L1291[16:18:35] <Althego> where is et on
the bicycle? :)
L1292[16:18:35] <Fluburtur> just right to
take moon pictures
L1293[16:18:51] <Althego> yes but the
moon is only half a degree visually
L1294[16:18:56] <Althego> so it is
actually small
L1296[16:20:28] <Fluburtur> my best moon
photo yet
L1297[16:22:17] <Althego> hehe
L1298[16:22:28] <Althego> it is not even
in the picture completely
L1299[16:22:48] <Fluburtur> yeah
L1300[16:22:52] <Fluburtur> my mount was
wobbly
L1301[16:22:54] <Althego> and the moon
looks better with a shadow, you can see the surface at the
terminator
L1302[16:23:05] <Fluburtur> you know how
you push it and then it goes back
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L1304[16:26:44] <NicknameHere> Fluburtur:
What's your imaging setup?
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L1306[16:27:14] <Fluburtur> a cheapo
optical telescope, my camera and hot glue
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L1308[16:30:23] <Ezko> ah i see where you
went wrong there
L1309[16:30:30] <Ezko> you didn't use
duct tape
L1310[16:30:34] <Ezko> or as we call it
here
L1311[16:30:38] <Fluburtur> I did use
paper tape
L1312[16:30:40] <Ezko> jeesusteippe
L1313[16:30:42] <Ezko> teippi
L1314[16:30:56] <Mathuin> What does
"Rigit Attachment: Off" mean in the editor?
L1315[16:31:02] <Mathuin> Rigid
sorry
L1316[16:31:15] <Deddly> Mathuin, it
means the joints are standard (a little flexible)
L1317[16:31:34] <Deddly> Lots of things
connected together will be floppy
L1318[16:31:37] <Mathuin> Okay, I've got
a loosey goosey craft, not sure the best way to make it less
angry.
L1319[16:31:44] <Ezko> they make your...
rocket flacid
L1320[16:32:01] <Mathuin> Do I need to
make *every* one of these rigid?
L1321[16:32:10] <Deddly> Mathuin, best
way is to turn on autostrut on the outer parts
L1322[16:34:06] <Mathuin> Advanced
Tweakables, right?
L1323[16:34:16] <Mathuin> That and 'aim
camera' are the only things I've used it for.
L1324[16:34:20] <Deddly> Mathuin, that's
right
L1326[16:34:31] <Ezko> autostrut is
lovely
L1327[16:34:37] <Ezko> lovelies thing
made for ksp
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L1329[16:35:18] <Ezko> +t
L1330[16:35:45] <Fluburtur>
NicknameHere
L1331[16:36:08] <Fluburtur> I need a work
screw drive for this
L1332[16:36:16] <Fluburtur> to point it
accurately and with no wobble
L1333[16:38:07] <NicknameHere> neat
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L1336[16:45:14] <Pakaran> Mostly one-time
craft for a tourist who wants to do suborbital flight around
Kerbin. It should be profitable even before the recovery of the pod
and electrical system.
L1339[16:45:51] <Pakaran> also intended
to test concepts for orbital rescue craft
L1340[16:47:14] <Pakaran> as such, I'm
planning a fairly arching trajectory (also because she doesn't want
to pass out on reentry, which a straight vertical burn could well
do)
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L1342[16:49:57] <Neal1> did everything go
to plan with that spaceX launch?
L1343[16:50:38] <Pakaran> Jeb evicted,
tourist loaded, ascent nominal.
L1346[16:55:33] <Fluburtur> uh they put a
stargate cam in the 2nd stage
L1347[16:56:30] <Mat2ch> Blaank: I'm sure
they didn't send the batteries up with it. Too dangerous for the
launch
L1348[16:56:42] <Blaank> Then how are the
cameras running?
L1349[16:57:11] <Mat2ch> ah, those
batteries. Thought you were talking about the ones in the
roadster
L1350[16:57:29] <Mat2ch> Maybe solar
panels somewhere? Who knoes
L1351[16:57:32] <Mat2ch> *knows
L1352[16:58:37] <Pakaran> second stage
needs fins, sigh
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L1356[17:06:06] <Pakaran> after a rather
hot ascent, she's not only going suborbital, she's going to end up
almost back at KSC.
L1359[17:07:39] <Pakaran> deliberately
not going to get her into orbit, since I don't want the first
Kerbal in orbit to be a tourist, but I might get her into a
decaying trajectory with a 65 km peri or so so she can watch a
couple sunrises from space.
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L1362[17:09:39] <kmath> YouTube - Live
Views of Starman
L1363[17:10:11] <Pakaran> there we go.
First tourist with an almost-orbital trajectory.
L1366[17:13:01] <Pakaran> Preparing for
rocket sep (in atmo, to avoid littering), and the tourist should be
fine for several partial orbits.
https://imgur.com/a/brtHM
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L1370[17:15:10] <Pakaran> but the grace
period is plenty long to decay this orbit.
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L1375[17:21:29] <diveyez> Hello
L1376[17:21:33] <Mod9000> Hello,
diveyez
L1377[17:21:51] <diveyez> Thank You
Hal
L1378[17:22:00] <diveyez> Is there a
working real solar system mod still?
L1379[17:32:30] <TheKosmonaut> diveyez: I
think so
L1380[17:34:16] <Blaank> Well didn't the
central core crash? Still a success.
L1381[17:34:29] <Blaank> I mean I'm
looking at a tesla roadster in orbit.
L1382[17:34:30] <lqid> still have
goosebumps...
L1383[17:34:32] <Pakaran> there is for
1.2?
L1384[17:34:51] <Blaank> Lots of stuff
flaking off it. What is all that debris in the livestream?
L1385[17:39:53] <diveyez> Probably
atmospheric fuilds
L1386[17:40:03] <zilti> Looks fine
here
L1387[17:40:07] <diveyez> Changing
chemical makup and tuning into ice or molten lava
L1388[17:40:14] <oren> Blaank: car
fluids?
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L1390[17:41:20] <CarbonFibre> Hello
L1391[17:41:22] <Mod9000> Hello,
CarbonFibre
L1392[17:41:32] <CarbonFibre> Cant use
discord :P
L1393[17:41:45] <lqid> there's a KSP
discord? :O
L1394[17:41:55] <Pakaran> Tourist
continues to be happy, should be home in another 3 orbits or so.
And there's still technically been no Kerbal in orbit.
L1395[17:41:56] <Mathuin> There's a kOS
one, I know that.
L1396[17:41:57] <CarbonFibre> a
redit
L1399[17:42:13] <Mathuin> Hrm. AT
enabled, but I don't see autostrut as an option.
L1400[17:42:13] <CarbonFibre>
r/kerbalspaceprogram
L1401[17:42:53] <CarbonFibre> Well gotta
go, im at school atm so I need to get ID photos taken.
L1402[17:42:58] <CarbonFibre> bye
L1403[17:43:59] <zilti> People really
should use Matrix instead of Discord. Discord is a company, Matrix
is open like IRC
L1404[17:44:34] <Fluburtur> irc is better
suited for high amounts of peoples
L1405[17:44:37] <Fluburtur> like
here
L1406[17:45:09] <Mathuin> IRC has issues,
but IRC is *old* and established.
L1407[17:45:17] <Fluburtur> irc always
works
L1408[17:45:21] <Mathuin> There's no real
good way to know what you've missed while you're gone, for
instance.
L1409[17:45:29] <Mathuin> Any thoughts on
my AT question?
L1410[17:45:42] <Ezko> yes there is
L1411[17:45:47] <Fluburtur> I would
usually ask "what new" if I really wanted to know
L1412[17:45:49] <Ezko> my client is
(almost) always online
L1413[17:46:24] <zilti> I have weechat
running on my homeserver constantly, and connect to it with a
weechat client
L1414[17:46:41] <Ezko> yeah i have irssi
on a friend's server
L1415[17:46:51] <Ezko> putty or juicessh
connect to that
L1416[17:47:21] <Ezko> i'm finnish, the
top level domain of my hostname is .de and the server is in
france
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L1418[17:50:41] <Mathuin> Ezko: if you
use a bouncer, you can find out. That's not the default.
L1419[17:50:41] *
UmbralRaptor points a fan at tumbleweed.
L1420[17:50:53] <Mathuin> ANYWAY
L1421[17:51:01] <Mathuin> Do I have to
unlock struts or something for the autostrut option to be
visible?
L1422[17:51:20] <Ezko> i'm not using a
bouncer
L1423[17:52:07] <Ezko> as i just
described
L1424[17:52:21] <Mathuin> Okay, so
"gone" in my sentence is "online" in
yours.
L1425[17:52:34] <Mathuin> If you are
offline for six hours, and reconnect, you cannot find out what you
missed in those six hours.
L1426[17:52:57] <Mathuin> In the early
nineties I worked on a project which developed an IRC alternative
for a school. It's still running.
L1427[17:53:17] <Mathuin> We have
"detach" mode, where while you are detached you can get
private messages and public ones stored in "review"
buffers.
L1428[17:53:33] <Mathuin> You can review
individual channels (called "discussions") there.
L1429[17:53:51] <Mathuin> Biggest UI
difference between IRC and Lily is that all messages go in the same
window in Lily, not in separate ones like here.
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L1431[17:54:23] <Mathuin> So, back to
KSP. I see the Fuel Delivery Overlay option so I know I've got AT
enabled. Any other ideas on why I can't autostrut?
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L1433[17:55:08] <Ezko> i've never done it
in career mode so i don't know what's required there
L1434[17:55:44] <Ezko> but when i enabled
advanced tweakables it started showing
L1435[17:56:01] <Ezko> so yeah probably
something needs to be unlocked
L1436[17:58:26] <Ezko> ugh making process
diagrams isn't very fun
L1437[18:04:34] <Blaank> STARMAN IS
DOWN
L1438[18:04:36] <Blaank> PANIC
L1439[18:04:54] <Azander> huh?
L1441[18:05:13] <kmath> YouTube - Live
Views of Starman
L1442[18:05:21] <KrazyKrl> what about the
press conference?
L1443[18:06:23] <NolanSyKinsley>
Officially, it hit the drone ship at 300mph
L1444[18:06:38] <NolanSyKinsley> watching
it now
L1445[18:06:51] <Fluburtur> so did they
finally sink it?
L1446[18:06:58] <KrazyKrl> i heard the
water, due to the outer 2 engines not igniting with the center one
igniting.
L1447[18:07:43] <Blaank> link
L1448[18:08:14] <Blaank> link to crash. I
wanna see the center core "landing".
L1449[18:08:35] <KrazyKrl> Well, they
need to recover the drone ship first.
L1450[18:08:42] <NolanSyKinsley> Musk
said it hit the drone ship and tookout 2 of it's engines
L1451[18:09:02] <KrazyKrl> I heard it
didn't ignite the 3 engines required, with only the center
igniting.
L1452[18:09:13] <KrazyKrl> So it missed
the drone ship, impacting the water at 300mph
L1453[18:09:25] <NolanSyKinsley> oh, the
audio was really bad for me then
L1454[18:09:50] <Pakaran> do they know if
they can repair it?
L1455[18:10:28] <Odin> The barge? if it
didn't sink they almost certainly will
L1456[18:10:31] <KrazyKrl> i don't think
anything happened to the drone ship... it depends on how it
impacted.
L1457[18:10:34] <Odin> Booster was
supposed to be a throwaway anyhow
L1458[18:10:46] <Odin> He made it sound
like the impact damaged 2 of the barge's engine pods
L1459[18:11:55] <zilti> When the engines
didn't fire, it's impossible the core stage hit the drone
ship.
L1460[18:12:06] <Fluburtur> if one did it
might
L1461[18:12:10] <Fluburtur> unless it had
a failsafe
L1462[18:12:13] <diveyez> I think I need
to redo my modlist, something isnt right with eve and SRSS
L1463[18:12:23] <Odin> center engine
ignited, outers did not.
L1464[18:12:31] <Odin> So it had some
thrust, but not enough to land intact
L1465[18:12:37] <KrazyKrl> I'd imagine
that if all three engines don't ignire properly... there is a
contigency to miss the barge if possible.
L1466[18:12:57] <Odin> Yeah, it probably
came down next to it and damaged it but shouldn't have hit hard
enough to sink it
L1467[18:13:10] <zilti> It'd still need
to ignite at least one of the outer engines to even align the
rocket to the barge
L1468[18:13:41] <KrazyKrl> The fact is,
for some reason (possibly low fuel); 2/3 of the engines required
did not fire properly.
L1469[18:13:51] <Fluburtur> one day they
will succeed in bringing down that boat!
L1470[18:14:01] <Odin> Makes me wonder
why they don't arm 5 of the engines for restart
L1471[18:14:06] <Odin> Ignite engine 5
(center)
L1472[18:14:08] <Ezko> were they going
for 3 engine landing on the drone ship?
L1473[18:14:10] <Fluburtur> more
plumbing
L1474[18:14:10] <Odin> Then ignite 2 and
7
L1475[18:14:18] <Odin> If 2 or 7 fail,
shut down 2/7 and ignite 3/6
L1476[18:14:19] <diveyez> Oic
L1477[18:14:23] <Odin> Redundant landing
engines
L1478[18:14:26] <Fluburtur> requires more
hardware to relight the engines
L1479[18:14:31] <Odin> Not by much
L1480[18:14:35] <KrazyKrl> You need
restart capability on more engines... along with more helium purges
and whatnot for the turbopumps.
L1481[18:14:44] <KrazyKrl> restart
capability is HEAVY
L1482[18:14:45] <Odin> Its the same
engines throughout, just a matter of how many engines have the
igniters connected etc
L1483[18:15:07] <Fluburtur> they need the
hypergolic fuel for the igniters and stuff to pump it
L1484[18:15:10] <KrazyKrl> you also need
to purge the internals when shutdown... along with differing
designs.
L1485[18:15:22] <Ezko> i'd assume that
the engines that restart have a different ignition system from the
ones that don't
L1486[18:15:24] <Fluburtur> I guess
ignition failure and low fuel did fun stuff
L1487[18:15:28] <Odin> Ah. So the
restartable engines are a different spec than the ones that only
fire once
L1488[18:15:35] <Odin> But it sounds like
it came down next to the barge
L1489[18:15:36] <KrazyKrl> oh yea they
are... space is complex.
L1490[18:15:44] <Odin> and when it fell
over as they usually do, that's what actually damaged the
barge
L1491[18:15:56] <Ezko> mr starman is back
in daylight
L1492[18:15:59] <KrazyKrl> There was
definitely stuff impinging on the barge... the question is where it
impacted.
L1493[18:16:13] <Odin> Yeah. Before the
stream failed there was smoke and mist over the barge
L1494[18:16:30] <Odin> But it wasn't on
target, so the craft probably didn't have enough thrust to kill
hvel and overshot the barge
L1495[18:16:33] <Odin> then fell back
against it
L1496[18:16:45] <Odin> Too bad they
haven't shown footage, it'd be cool to see
L1497[18:19:27] <Fluburtur> don't they
usualy have a flying camera near the boat?
L1498[18:29:01] <Pakaran> Tourist
Orbiting and Unguided Reentry System (TOURS) continues to perform
nominally. With tourists that actually want to go to orbit, it
should be very profitable.
https://imgur.com/a/3ilGH
L1500[18:29:58] <Pakaran> (Also, when is
a grind not a grind? When it means practicing launches and testing
vehicles. Next logical step is some basic life support, or a craft
that can do orbital rescues.
L1501[18:30:12] <Pakaran> but first,
level 2 tracking station...
L1502[18:31:30] <Pakaran> looks like she
may get to re-enter over the day side. sadly, I covered the window
with a solar panel.
L1503[18:38:05] <Pakaran> TOURS landing
test (with live tourist, for better or worse) likely after this
orbit. SMA is already probably inside the atmosphere.
https://imgur.com/a/VHfyK
L1505[18:38:20] <Pakaran> it's going to
be a long reentry, but we do have full ablator, which forgiveth
many sins.
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L1510[18:42:07] <diveyez> Is there anyway
to determine what mods cause crash?
L1511[18:42:20] <Ezko> "short
flights with BFR maybe next year" = in 5 years
L1512[18:42:31] <Ezko> taking
bets!!
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L1515[18:45:33] *
diveyez bets 19324BTC
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L1517[18:47:41] <diveyez> Crash solved,
steam loads 32 ksp by default oops
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L1521[18:56:11] <Ezko> that it does
L1522[19:00:47] <Pakaran> I have desktop
shortcuts to KSP64 for each install
L1523[19:01:40] <Pakaran> TOURS is go for
final descent.
L1524[19:01:53] <diveyez> I think ground
constructs broke the GPP stuff
L1525[19:02:02] <Ezko> i haven't used my
desktop shortcuts in years
L1526[19:02:20] <Pakaran> currently at 50
KM, and near-orbital velocity. Tourist appears happy. Using manual
adjustments to keep heatshield pointed downrange.
L1527[19:02:20] <Ezko> but i can see how
it's handy for that
L1528[19:02:49] <Ezko> how many installs
do you have Pakaran?
L1529[19:03:30] <Pakaran> Ezko, just 3.
the one I mostly play, one completely stock for tutorials, and one
RSS
L1530[19:03:38] <Ezko> ah
L1533[19:04:46] <Pakaran> stock heat
shields are amazing, especially for LKO speeds
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L1536[19:14:01] <Mathuin> Grrr, takes too
long to drift to Minmus.
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L1538[19:18:01] <Pakaran> and Val will
test the mostly-reusable ascender and in the process become first
Kerbal in orbit.
L1541[19:18:52] <Pakaran> those numbers
are actually low, because it will launch with the first stage
throttled back.
L1542[19:19:07] <Pakaran> Also, yes, I'm
using scaled-up MK16 chutes as nosecones on the boosters,
heh.
L1543[19:19:16] <Pakaran> They fall
conveniently within 10-15 km of SC
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L1547[19:22:03] <Blaank> Do you think
they have a betting pool at SpaceX on if they will sink the boat
this time or not?
L1548[19:22:03] <KrazyKrl> Yep. FYI you
could see the livestream of the empty droneship during the actual
launch in a monitor in the backround.
L1549[19:24:33] <Blaank> They do target
next to the boat so if the engines don't ignite it will slam into
the water at absurd speeds. If only 1 engine ignited, it would
still probably slam into the water at slightly less absurd
speeds.
L1550[19:24:58] <Blaank> Man, that
roadster is up there.
L1551[19:25:19] <KrazyKrl> 300mph at
impact with the water isn't an absurd speed for a whatever tonne
rocket stage?
L1552[19:25:22] <Blaank> How high is the
apoapsis?
L1553[19:25:25] <Azander> Makes me want
to watch "HEavy Metal" again :P
L1554[19:25:56] <Blaank> That's not low
earth orbit from what I can see.
L1555[19:26:07] <Blaank> At least not the
level the ISS is at but it's pretty low.
L1556[19:26:24] <KrazyKrl> Elon said he
needed the titanium grid fins off of the F9 boosters though... he
expected the redesigned center stage to fail (which is also why it
landed at sea)
L1557[19:26:53] <Blaank> Oh, neat, using
titanium now.
L1558[19:26:58] <Blaank> Weight
savings?
L1559[19:27:50] <KrazyKrl> stronger and
the titanium doesn't ablate
L1560[19:27:58] <KrazyKrl> which makes
reusing the stage much easier.
L1561[19:28:24] <KrazyKrl> those 4 foot
by 5 foot grid fins (made out of titanium) aren't cheap.
L1562[19:28:30] <KrazyKrl> especially
with 8 of them
L1563[19:29:22] <Blaank> Center stage was
still metal?
L1564[19:29:25] <Blaank> steel
L1565[19:29:51] <Blaank> 134k people are
watching Starman.
L1566[19:29:52] <KrazyKrl> painted
ailiuiminium
L1567[19:30:19] <KrazyKrl> the recovered
stages are unpainted titanium.
L1568[19:30:42] <KrazyKrl> i would like
to find the price of those grid fins though
L1569[19:33:26] <KrazyKrl> And the center
stage was a complete redesign due to the 1,000,000 lb+ loading it
needed to take.
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L1571[19:35:03] <Blaank> How big are the
grid fins?
L1572[19:35:09] <KrazyKrl> 20 square feet
each
L1573[19:35:12] <Blaank> I'm thinking
about making one into a coffee table.
L1574[19:35:21] <KrazyKrl> 4' x 5'
L1575[19:35:33] <Blaank> So more bedframe
material.
L1576[19:35:58] <Blaank> Yeah, sleeping
on a Falcon 9 grid fin (with box spring and mattress) would be
cool.
L1578[19:36:24] <Blaank> 5' isn't enough
so .... I guess put 2 together or extend it a bit with other
material?
L1579[19:36:28] <Pakaran> Val should be
go to be first Kerbal in orbit (and get any space science Jeb
missed). After that, more tourists.
https://imgur.com/a/qrlRN
L1581[19:37:16] <Blaank> Interesting
pokey bits it's got. Didn't know about those.
L1582[19:37:45] <Blaank> And it's curved,
darn.
L1583[19:37:50] <KrazyKrl> yep, the
entire aft side is pointy
L1584[19:37:53] <Blaank> Not the best
bedrframe.
L1585[19:38:56] <Blaank> I notice they
put some plugs in the leading edge RCS ports.
L1586[19:39:04] <Blaank> That's
interesting, too.
L1587[19:39:32] <Pakaran> for some
reason, FMRS didn't register Val's first stage, even though it
should have armed the chutes at sep (double checked my other
screenshot). Oh well.
https://imgur.com/a/uvCxr
L1589[19:41:14] <Pakaran> powered down at
59 km, preparing for apo kick burn
L1590[19:43:24] <Pakaran> it already
auto-reocvered, nice
L1591[19:45:35] <Pakaran> orbit entered,
have 143k funds before craft recovery.
L1593[19:47:55] <kmath> <iyzie>
Wait. Does this mean a Tesla Roadster is TRL-9?
L1594[19:50:05] <Pakaran> Where do I make
the deorbit burn to land near the SC?
L1595[19:50:43] <Pakaran> I vaguely
remember reading somewhere that you should do it a quarter of the
way around, so the predicted perikerb is another quarter of the way
around past the SC?
L1596[19:51:48] <Pakaran> well, I'll try
that.
L1597[19:52:36] <UmbralRaptor> Depends on
descent profile details, IIRC.
L1598[19:53:00] <Pakaran> well, I'll try
that and see how it goes.
L1599[19:53:27] <Neal1> did the
interplanetary burn for the F9H happen yet?
L1602[19:55:37] <Pakaran> and sep. Upper
stage is committed to burn up with quite a lot of fuel, but oh
well. mission said orbit, and I wanted to be sure of having all the
near space science
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L1604[19:56:50] <Pakaran> going to way
overshoot the SC, but live and learn.
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L1606[20:06:55] <Draconiator> kinda makes
me want to try Career again
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L1608[20:19:56] <Mathuin> <3
career.
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L1611[20:25:46] <Blaank> Starman is
dead
L1612[20:25:49] <Blaank> F
L1613[20:29:14] <UmbralRaptor> RIP
L1614[20:37:46] <Pakaran> Two tourists
want suborbital spaceflight. The first one's craft is overbuilt,
but I plan to launch almost vertically to gain high space science.
https://imgur.com/a/EnQj3
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L1617[20:40:49] <Mathuin> You may need to
send along a non-tourist to operate the science gear.
L1618[20:40:57] <Draconiator> Starman,
ho3w did he die?
L1619[20:41:07] <Mathuin> Ran out of
zots? Hit Vger?
L1620[20:41:15] <Pakaran> no, it has a
probe core and is using only sounding rockets mod stuff.
L1621[20:41:25] <Pakaran> (I did in fact
get some biomes with actual sounding rockets)
L1622[20:41:37] <Pakaran> do need to
arrange power though
L1623[20:42:46] <Draconiator> Wow,
COMPLETELY went higher than expected....almost 300KM, had three
Hammer boosters on takeoff
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L1627[20:59:13] <ve2dmn> TIL something
about Zeppelins and British airships.
L1630[21:00:01] <ve2dmn> Britan built a
ship called the R101 which, sadly, crashed in France during the
maiden voyage to India...
L1631[21:00:30] <Pakaran> good news is it
should be fully recoverable, and is (barely) 30 parts. bad news is
if recovery fails, I'll lose some money on getting the tourist
suborbital.
L1632[21:00:40] <ve2dmn> The hydrogen
used to lift the thing made it so that the only thing left in the
wreckage was the metal frame...
L1633[21:01:06] <ve2dmn> ... which they
then sold for scrap to the Zeppelin company.
L1634[21:01:20] <ve2dmn> They melted it
and made.... the LZ 129
L1635[21:01:28] <ve2dmn> ...AKA the
Hindenburg
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L1638[21:15:02] <Pakaran> heh, nice
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L1642[21:16:47] <Supercheese> Did you
know about the R100, though?
L1643[21:17:09] <Supercheese> basically,
what if the R101 was not completely mismanaged and instead built
& flown properly
L1644[21:17:32] <Supercheese> could have
been as successful as the LZ 127-130 series
L1645[21:17:55] <Supercheese> instead,
they grounded the superior R100 after the R101 disaster
L1646[21:18:35] <Supercheese> "The
entire framework of the ship was flattened by steamrollers and sold
for less than £600." feelsbadman
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L1650[21:24:57] <Pakaran> science
successful, preparing for return.
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L1655[21:27:11] <Pakaran> failed because
the tourist passed out on reentry. should have done some lateral
burn.
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L1657[21:27:14] <Pakaran> oh well.
L1658[21:31:10] <Mathuin> Yes, you have
to unlock struts in order to get autostruts, which makes
sense.
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L1676[23:02:32] <BadRocketsCo>
Hullo
L1677[23:02:46] <BadRocketsCo> What a
lovely launch of the Falcon H
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L1679[23:08:50] <TheKosmonaut>
BadRocketsCo: I've watched it like a dozen times
L1680[23:09:15] <BadRocketsCo> Heh,
yeah
L1681[23:09:16] <BadRocketsCo> Same
L1682[23:09:26] <BadRocketsCo> What an
eventful launch, too.
L1683[23:09:57] <BadRocketsCo> Also,
sending a car to mars may just be the most expensive troll done to
date
L1684[23:14:12] <BadRocketsCo>
TheKosmonaut: I couldn't find any info on the core stage landing
though. How'd that go?
L1685[23:17:11] <cycloptivity> ded
L1686[23:17:28] <cycloptivity> or
krakened
L1687[23:17:31] <cycloptivity> :P
L1688[23:19:39] <BadRocketsCo> Naw
L1689[23:20:06] <BadRocketsCo> Eh, still
a huge succes for the first launch.
L1690[23:23:23] <TheKosmonaut>
BadRocketsCo: Yeah, one engine ignited, but the other two did
not.
L1691[23:23:38] <TheKosmonaut> So it
impacted the water some 100m away at 130+ m/s
L1692[23:23:43] <BadRocketsCo> Huh,
interesting.
L1693[23:24:13] <BadRocketsCo> Wonder why
the other engines didn't ignite.
L1694[23:25:11] <TheKosmonaut> There was
not enough of the catalyst or something
L1695[23:25:19] <TheKosmonaut> I'm sure
more detailed info will follow soon
L1696[23:27:13] <Pakaran> hmm
L1697[23:27:45] <Pakaran> I almost think
stock, at least at the low level I'm playing, is balanced so trying
to recover boosters and things, while fairly easy to do, also
consumes part count and doesn't save that much money.
L1698[23:28:16] <Pakaran> Big,
appropriately thrust-limited, booster plus fins is a first stage by
itself, and I think it was under 2k total funds last time I did it
that way.
L1699[23:28:58] <Pakaran> Still have
another tourist to get suborbital.
L1700[23:29:21] <TheKosmonaut> before
Jets were nerfed a bit, they were really easy
L1701[23:29:26] <BadRocketsCo>
TheKosmonaut: yup
L1702[23:29:26] <TheKosmonaut> Scott
Manley had a good design for that
L1703[23:30:01] <TheKosmonaut> Pakaran:
You can do some decent reuse if you do RTLS for a very simple
rocket, it leaves you with very tight margins though
L1704[23:30:24] <TheKosmonaut> In RO or
other realism mods like that, you'll probably have better
savings.
L1705[23:31:20] <Pakaran> TheKosmonaut,
this is what I used to get Val into orbit.
L1707[23:31:49] <Pakaran> with a few
minor delta-v tweaks etc, and a simpler liquid-fueled version with
electronics handles the tourists.
L1708[23:32:14] <TheKosmonaut> I could
try something, I dont have that save scum mod installed at the
moment though so I wont really be able to do a full mission
L1709[23:32:25] <Pakaran> I really need
to save for the level 2 VAB.
L1710[23:33:11] <Pakaran> my other idea
was using 0.5m or even 0.3m boosters just to get off the pad.
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L1712[23:35:22] <Pakaran> but basically,
the first stage is just a lateral basic chute, and a lateral basic
drogue chute, upscaled one size. turns out the drogue isn't
necessary -- it has a lot more drag for its mass than something
heavy like a pod.
L1713[23:36:49] <Pakaran> (the other
thing is next time I need to over-engineer for a problem, I can
just remove the stage recovery stuff, and/or science).
L1714[23:39:10] <TheKosmonaut> Well, I
like to use AIRBRAKES in lieu of gridfins if I am playing
stock
L1715[23:39:29] <TheKosmonaut> and I dont
usually do any sort of braking maneuver other than boost-back
L1716[23:39:37] <TheKosmonaut> I dont
need to land on a pad or anything, just near KSC is fine
L1717[23:39:49] <TheKosmonaut> That said,
I dont exactly try to aim for anything beyond rule of cool
L1718[23:40:20] <Pakaran> heh nice
L1719[23:40:58] <Pakaran> I may just
timewarp to some more lucrative contracts, or try to do a more
controlled suborbital rocket to do some of the observations over
Kerbin.
L1720[23:47:05] <taniwha> Pakaran: btw,
handy command for the debug console: /ksc
L1721[23:47:27] <Pakaran> what does it
do?
L1722[23:47:36] <taniwha> try it and see
:)
L1723[23:48:45] <Pakaran> alright.
L1724[23:49:15] <Pakaran> I'm currently
watching KSP videos while waiting for KSP to load.
L1725[23:50:10] <taniwha> I mentioned it
to you because you seem to fly planes
L1726[23:51:13] <TheKosmonaut>
Whooops
L1727[23:51:31] <TheKosmonaut> I uh...
forgot to put a probe core on the first stage.
L1728[23:52:25] <taniwha> you didn't need
that first stage anyway
L1729[23:53:11] <Pakaran> thanks.
L1730[23:53:26] <Pakaran> I try to fly
planes. Planes I design, well, I learned a few things since I last
tried.
L1731[23:53:26] <lpg> is that why the
center core crashed?
L1732[23:55:48] <taniwha> heh, fixed
landing gear exploaded on contact with the runway, but I was still
airborn
L1733[23:55:58] <taniwha> so I managed to
pull off a splash landing
L1734[23:56:48] <taniwha> which is
interesting. last time I tried a splash landing in FAR, things went
very badly
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