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L3[00:04:32] <VaheTheAwesome> Hello?
L4[00:04:35] <VaheTheAwesome> Anyone
L5[00:04:51] <VaheTheAwesome> Unn hello HELLLO
L6[00:05:11] <VaheTheAwesome> please respond if your here
L7[00:05:17] <VaheTheAwesome> UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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L10[00:06:26] <VaheTheAwesome> Ok Bye
L11[00:07:46] <Mathuin> VaheTheAwesome: I'm playing Civ6 with my wife, not focused on IRC. If you have a question, ask, and if someone can answer it, they will.
L12[00:08:04] <Mathuin> It's ten at night Pacific time in America and it's Saturday night, so folks probably have other things to do.
L13[00:11:00] <Althego> and it is 7 in the morning in eu
L14[00:11:34] <Althego> have to know people will not always reply instantly on any chat
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L17[00:13:30] <Mathuin> It's a round, round world.
L18[00:25:03] <Althego> rounded float :)
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L20[00:25:46] <Mathuin> God is real (unless declared integer). <-- old, old joke probably only appreciated by folks who wrote code in 70 columns, possibly on cards.
L21[00:26:02] <Althego> 72
L22[00:26:23] <Althego> and better use implicit none
L23[00:26:25] <Mathuin> Althego++
L24[00:26:35] <Mathuin> That stupid eight column tab ruined my day
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L28[00:43:16] <TheKosmonaut> If that's how someone talks in IRC then maybe it's better they didn't stick around
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L32[01:08:30] <Althego> oh yes, action is fixed, i can make videos with it again
L33[01:08:53] <Althego> ok, the nvidia thing worked too but it was kind of bare bones
L34[01:11:51] <Althego> why is the reputation meter that strange bar what you cant read, while the other 2 are simple numbers?
L35[01:14:01] <Althego> lol i didnt know the administration building had its own music. i never clicked it
L36[01:15:48] <GlassYuri> something's wrong with my browser
L37[01:16:07] <GlassYuri> it's literally stuck playing sounds of passing trains
L38[01:16:20] <Althego> hehe
L39[01:16:22] <Althego> restart
L40[01:17:28] <GlassYuri> it's kinda concerning to be honest, the only explaination I have is that a video tab I closed is somehow still managing to play through the entire playlist
L41[01:18:06] <Althego> the rowsers today usually separate tabs to processes, look for the extra one with sound
L42[01:18:18] <GlassYuri> now it appears to be playing an ad
L43[01:18:23] <Althego> hehe
L44[01:18:25] <Althego> then mute it
L45[01:18:29] <GlassYuri> how do I find a *process* which has sound?
L46[01:18:42] <Althego> i would just look in the sound mixer in windows
L47[01:18:54] <Althego> each firefox tab is showing up there
L48[01:19:14] <Althego> but of course you can mute those tabs by their own little icon too
L49[01:19:21] <GlassYuri> for me it just shows one firefox entry
L50[01:19:39] <GlassYuri> and I can't mute the tab because I closed it
L51[01:19:59] <GlassYuri> it may have stopped
L52[01:20:12] <TheKosmonaut> The solution is obvious.
L53[01:20:19] <GlassYuri> no, still going
L54[01:20:36] <TheKosmonaut> Burn the computer. For it practices witchcraft
L55[01:21:01] <GlassYuri> not sure if I should burn my own PC or youku's servers
L56[01:21:07] <GlassYuri> both probably
L57[01:21:53] <Althego> it looks like this http://warpology.com/x/mixer.png
L58[01:22:49] <Althego> a bit annoying, because since the multi process thing happened there are constantly a lot of firefox entries there and i cant find ksp if i want to mute it (because listening video in the background)
L59[01:23:15] <TheKosmonaut> GlassYuri: why can't you just terminate Firefox?
L60[01:23:23] <Althego> yes the obvious solution
L61[01:23:37] <GlassYuri> TheKosmonaut, because I want to know for how long it keeps going
L62[01:23:43] <Althego> lol
L63[01:23:51] <Althego> it is a computer, it will not stop on its own
L64[01:24:56] <TheKosmonaut> I've never had a computer problem that I can't fix with a good ol fashioned shotgun
L65[01:26:08] <Althego> that is a problem, those are somewhat rare here
L66[01:26:24] <Althego> although if you have a hunter's permit, you can have one
L67[01:26:26] <TheKosmonaut> If the movies have taught me anything, shooting a monitor will delete everything
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L71[01:35:38] <GlassYuri> still going
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L73[01:39:36] <GlassYuri> oh btw TheKosmonaut I bought this yesterday https://i.imgur.com/xyFQVH3.jpg
L74[01:40:12] <TheKosmonaut> Why
L75[01:40:36] <GlassYuri> because it was only 300 yen
L76[01:40:54] <Althego> lol
L77[01:41:07] <TheKosmonaut> You can get them free if you try hard enough
L78[01:41:13] <Althego> hehehe
L79[01:41:21] <Althego> yes, some people take home these
L80[01:41:23] <Althego> even here
L81[01:41:24] <GlassYuri> they had tokyo metro logo plates but they were 10k
L82[01:43:36] <GlassYuri> TheKosmonaut, can't brag about it if it's been obtained illegaly
L83[01:44:59] <TheKosmonaut> Brag more if srolem
L84[01:45:58] <GlassYuri> I'm not gonna get myself arrested for a holding strap. for a whole train, maybe, but not for this
L85[01:47:08] <GlassYuri> it appears that the youku phantom sound has stopped after about half an hour. probably just the end of the playlist
L86[01:48:48] <Althego> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/959902950964453376
L87[01:48:48] <kmath> <elonmusk> Falcon Heavy launch simulation almost ready. Will be set to Bowie’s Life on Mars.
L88[01:48:54] <Althego> what does he mean by simulation?
L89[01:49:05] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: he's trolling
L90[01:49:16] <Althego> and lol ideas, falcon heavy keychain, with a mini tesla inside
L91[01:49:21] <TheKosmonaut> He occasionally trolls flat earthers
L92[01:49:40] <Althego> yes i remember that
L93[01:51:11] <Althego> hehe the profit comparison (tide pods beat tesla) :)
L94[01:52:30] <Althego> hehehe. ground control to major musk, commencing countdown, merlins on :)
L95[01:53:07] <Althego> check your staging and may mars' love be with you
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L106[04:20:32] <Althego> how does the sentinel infrared teledcope work
L107[04:20:48] <Althego> is it only collecting science fro ma sun orbit?
L108[04:21:11] <Althego> or does it collect science at all? or ust explores asteroids
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L111[04:41:58] <taniwha> hi, APlayer
L112[04:42:14] <APlayer> Hi there!
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L114[04:44:07] <Gasher> Althego, it reveals asteroids (or makes them appear lol) and also there are mission which ask ou to get it to certain sol orbit to find certain amount of asteroids (that would passively happen over time then mission is accomplished and you reap its rewards)
L115[04:44:55] <taniwha> APlayer: do you use Tokamak Industries?
L116[04:45:36] <APlayer> taniwha: I happen to, yes. Do you have trouble with it?
L117[04:45:45] <taniwha> https://github.com/linuxgurugamer/Tokamak-Refurbished-Parts/pull/5
L118[04:45:47] <taniwha> :)
L119[04:46:01] <taniwha> APlayer: I made a few minor improvements to it :)
L120[04:46:24] <APlayer> Woops, I did not realize it was you who maintained it, haha
L121[04:46:30] <taniwha> I don't
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L123[04:46:59] <APlayer> Ah, you just contributed?
L124[04:47:04] <taniwha> but I grabbed it to test some code in EL (also because I like the hab parts) and found a few things I didn't like
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L126[04:47:13] <APlayer> Ah
L127[04:47:28] <taniwha> so, yeah, I did a bit of work and pushed the changes in lgg's direction
L128[04:48:46] <APlayer> That's awesome!
L129[04:49:17] <taniwha> what started it all was the requirement for USITools
L130[04:49:48] <APlayer> Unfortunately, though, I am stuck on 1.3.0 for now, until Kerbalism updates :-( But I will be sure to check out the new release ASAP
L131[04:50:39] <taniwha> if you grab the cfgs and .mu from that PR, I can get you a dll compiled for 1.3.0
L132[04:51:56] <APlayer> That would sure be awesome, but I mean, I can't go around and expect that people recompile stuff to 1.3.0 for me ;-)
L133[04:52:34] <taniwha> would be nice to have some feedback, though
L134[04:53:43] <APlayer> Alright, I have plenty of time for KSP today, so I may test it for you.
L135[04:54:04] <APlayer> What files do you need, exactly?
L136[04:54:05] <taniwha> just making sure my 1.3 build works
L137[04:54:16] <taniwha> and I'll do a full zip (easier that way)
L138[04:55:51] <APlayer> You mean a full zip as one with both releases?
L139[04:56:14] <Althego> day 16, reached all the science instruments
L140[04:56:19] <taniwha> current release + my patches with recompiled dll
L141[04:56:36] <APlayer> Ah, got it
L142[04:56:44] <Althego> if i have enough money i could try to send the early duna probe, that gets there when the launch window opens :)
L143[04:56:58] <Althego> so it needs like 9000 m/s delta v from kerbin
L144[04:57:03] <Althego> lko
L145[05:01:21] <taniwha> hmm, 1.3 does not like something
L146[05:10:56] <taniwha> APlayer: for some reason, the PAW breaks on the inflatoflat in 1.3
L147[05:10:59] <taniwha> looking into it
L148[05:11:13] <APlayer> Sure, no hurry
L149[05:21:00] <taniwha> narrowed it down to my DeployableHabitat rewrite
L150[05:21:06] <taniwha> testing some suspect lines
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L152[05:24:23] <taniwha> found it :)
L153[05:25:30] <Pakaran> thinking I'll start a new science game since I got some new mods, will also let me practice for my main save.
L154[05:25:43] <taniwha> heh, bigger zip than I expected, but... http://taniwha.org/~bill/TokamakIndustries-taniwha-dev.zip
L155[05:25:46] <taniwha> APlayer: ^^
L156[05:26:02] <APlayer> Thank you!
L157[05:26:39] <APlayer> Is it OK to run it on my ultra-modded install, or shall I make a fresh one?
L158[05:26:50] <taniwha> should be ok
L159[05:26:54] <Pakaran> do folks play with the part pressure and part/kerbal g-force limits on?
L160[05:27:04] <APlayer> I do
L161[05:27:15] <taniwha> Pakaran: I use kerbal g-force limits
L162[05:27:17] <Pakaran> I always thought it was a bit silly when the first craft was doing 8g at booster burnout
L163[05:27:24] <taniwha> FAR takes care of the part limits for me
L164[05:27:28] <APlayer> But, TBH, I've never had a situation where any of those mattered
L165[05:27:39] <APlayer> Those are really extreme environments
L166[05:27:49] <taniwha> kerbal limits can be a RPITA with planes
L167[05:27:59] <APlayer> Reminds me, I wanted to install FAR on this save before it is too late
L168[05:28:16] <APlayer> Ah, I rarely use planes
L169[05:28:22] <Pakaran> I should move this game somewhere Steam won't sync it too, given how many mods I have installed.
L170[05:28:24] <taniwha> (very easy to pull high enough acceleration to cause a kerbal to black out)
L171[05:28:35] <Pakaran> It is my "stock" game, but that really just means they're launching from Kerbin at this point
L172[05:28:41] <taniwha> APlayer: yeah, it's hard to hit the limits in a rocket
L173[05:28:50] <APlayer> taniwha: The folder in the zip goes directly into GameData?
L174[05:28:54] <taniwha> APlayer: yes
L175[05:28:58] <APlayer> Alrighty
L176[05:29:05] <Pakaran> What is the limit? I know it's dependent on pilot/nonpilot and level, but the base?
L177[05:29:12] <Pakaran> don't think I came across that on the wiki
L178[05:29:17] <APlayer> Around 25 G IIRC?
L179[05:29:30] <taniwha> Pakaran: 5-10g, I think
L180[05:29:40] <taniwha> for blackout, anyway
L181[05:29:43] <Pakaran> ah, yeah, that is a bit low for planes
L182[05:29:57] <Pakaran> at least assuming trained pilot, pressure garment, etc
L183[05:30:08] <APlayer> Really? That's less than I thought, because I've not experienced problems even during the most fierce reentries
L184[05:30:09] <taniwha> that might be for tourists
L185[05:33:23] <Pakaran> now, parachutes are controllable in FMRS
L186[05:33:38] <APlayer> That's a setting, yes
L187[05:33:47] <Pakaran> honestly that seems cheaty, and in a lot of scenarios, just having a chute arm on undocking would be enough
L188[05:33:52] <Pakaran> so I'm turning it off
L189[05:34:42] <taniwha> I'm not sure how it all works, but there are a bunch of kerbalG settings in Physics.cfg
L190[05:35:15] <taniwha> courage and badass play into it, though
L191[05:35:30] <Pakaran> thanks
L192[05:36:40] <taniwha> hmm, and there is a GeeForceTolerance effect
L193[05:36:42] <APlayer> taniwha: Your recompile just successfully passed the loading test :D
L194[05:36:45] <taniwha> so lots and lots of multipliers
L195[05:36:49] <taniwha> APlayer: :)
L196[05:37:28] <APlayer> OK, going for a new, normal difficulty sandbox save
L197[05:38:36] <APlayer> Let me specifically test the things you mentioned in the pull request, then
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L200[05:42:57] <APlayer> Humm, I'm afraid the inflato parts are not showing up here
L201[05:43:15] <APlayer> 90% sure that's not your fault, though, given the number of mods I use
L202[05:43:15] <taniwha> inflato flat is in command pod
L203[05:43:39] <APlayer> Nope, can't find it
L204[05:44:03] <APlayer> That is, all but the inflatable parts are there
L205[05:44:06] <taniwha> <KSP>/GameData/TokamakIndustries ?
L206[05:44:42] <APlayer> Yeah, of course. But I've been messing around specifically with inflatable parts patches recently, so I am pretty sure I created some incompatible beast
L207[05:45:02] <APlayer> Let me just load it on a Tokamak-only install
L208[05:45:30] <APlayer> Plus DPAI, of course :D
L209[05:46:08] <taniwha> DPAI is Da Bee's Knees :)
L210[05:46:41] <taniwha> just testing the 1.3 fix in 1.3.1
L211[05:47:51] <taniwha> yup, turns out the problem line wasn't actually necessary
L212[05:53:01] <APlayer> Alright, launching the new install
L213[05:54:28] <taniwha> and minus that quick fix (which I'm now going to investigate further), it's already merged
L214[05:54:57] <APlayer> Now the parts are there :-)
L215[05:55:12] <taniwha> :)
L216[05:56:42] <APlayer> Actually, I don't think I will keep Tokamak in my main install, though. It will be one pain to find which of my patches broke it, another pain to fix it and it will all be likely redundant, because I already got SSTU inflatable habitats working in my setup
L217[05:57:00] <taniwha> yeah
L218[05:59:49] <APlayer> Parts seem to work in the VAB, though the animation is not there, or too quick to notice
L219[06:01:03] <APlayer> Is the Sentiel a Tokamak part, or stock??
L220[06:01:13] <APlayer> Uh, ignore that second question mark
L221[06:03:55] <taniwha> yes, animation is quick in the VAB
L222[06:04:45] <Pakaran> will I get in trouble using both interstellar and USI?
L223[06:06:15] <APlayer> There is a "Deflate Habitat" action in the VAB, even when the habitat is already deflated. Clicking on it seems to blink quickly between inflated and deflated, after which the option disappears
L224[06:06:57] <APlayer> But: Deflated Habitat can have crew capacity: Check
L225[06:09:22] <APlayer> Garr, I should have kept KER in this save
L226[06:09:50] * APlayer goes to manually calculating rocket delta-v now
L227[06:10:54] <APlayer> Stock delta-v to orbit was 4 km/s, right?
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L229[06:12:19] <taniwha> 3500
L230[06:12:41] <APlayer> I'll go with 4 km/s, because I totally forgot how to launch rockets in the stock system
L231[06:12:43] <taniwha> or 0
L232[06:12:53] <APlayer> Well, true that
L233[06:13:19] <Pakaran> APlayer, want me to dig up one of the old screenshots I posted here?
L234[06:13:20] <APlayer> But I don't think I'll do that
L235[06:13:39] <APlayer> Pakaran: Heh, but where's the challenge? :D
L236[06:13:42] <Pakaran> as long as I'm installing mods, kind of tempted to keep stock parts but go to stock sized RSS
L237[06:17:55] <APlayer> I've already forgot how short stock rockets look compared to ones from larger scale systems :D
L238[06:18:51] <APlayer> Anyway, launching an Inflato FLAT and some probe to dock with it
L239[06:20:10] <taniwha> APlayer: that VAB "deflate habitat" glitch is a stock bug, I think (since it's in the stock module)
L240[06:20:40] <APlayer> Wait, inflatable habitats are a stock thing?
L241[06:20:59] <taniwha> no, but the animation module TI now uses is
L242[06:21:27] <taniwha> (ModuleAnimationGroup)
L243[06:21:29] <APlayer> Ah
L244[06:21:47] <taniwha> it's the same module the stock drills use
L245[06:22:07] <APlayer> Probably the inflatable heat shield too?
L246[06:22:43] <APlayer> Note to self: Don't forget reaction wheels next time
L247[06:23:10] <taniwha> no, not the heatshield
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L249[06:23:31] <taniwha> stock parts that use it: survey scanner, orbital scanner, ISRU, mini drill, radial drill
L250[06:23:37] <taniwha> (going by cfg names)
L251[06:24:02] <APlayer> Well, anyway, it's a stock module
L252[06:24:13] <taniwha> yeah
L253[06:24:26] <taniwha> I'm pretty sure I didn't notice that while testing in 1.3.1
L254[06:26:01] <APlayer> Control from here working as expected: Check
L255[06:26:27] <APlayer> Docking port name suffixes working: Check
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L257[06:26:59] <taniwha> took me a while to get them working on the root part :/
L258[06:27:37] <APlayer> Did not check different root parts, indeed
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L260[06:35:24] <APlayer> Both vessels in orbit
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L272[06:52:16] <APlayer> Docked! Can confirm distance readout is OK. https://imgur.com/a/7rxtx
L273[06:53:01] <taniwha> try the other direction
L274[06:53:10] <taniwha> because the /stock/ distance readout is not ok
L275[06:53:10] <APlayer> Other direction?
L276[06:53:20] <taniwha> (uses vessel origin? root part?)
L277[06:53:40] <taniwha> docking the station to the tug (ie, controling the station)
L278[06:54:19] <taniwha> or really, just switching to the station while docking doing control from here on the appropriate port and setting the other port as the target
L279[06:54:22] <APlayer> I did not pack any means of attitude or translation control on it
L280[06:54:45] <APlayer> Alright
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L283[06:55:11] <hugio88> Hello all, how do i delete my ksp account
L284[06:55:14] <APlayer> No undock option on the Inflato
L285[06:55:23] <hugio88> Forum account **
L286[06:55:28] <TheKosmonaut> hugio88: you wish to delete your forum account?
L287[06:55:44] <hugio88> Yes
L288[06:56:13] <taniwha> APlayer: because of the way docking ports work
L289[06:56:21] <taniwha> only the child vessel can undock
L290[06:56:22] <TheKosmonaut> Please PM me on the forum hugio88
L291[06:56:37] <hugio88> Sure
L292[06:56:51] <TheKosmonaut> hugio88: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/profile/40652-thekosmonaut/
L293[06:57:16] <TheKosmonaut> Thanks. We will sort it out for you from there.
L294[06:58:03] <hugio88> TheKosmonaut, i send it
L295[06:58:24] <TheKosmonaut> Okie dokie. We will work on it from there! thanks
L296[06:59:23] <APlayer> taniwha: Inflato-tug distance was 3 m, tug-inflato distance was less
L297[06:59:36] <APlayer> Unfortunately, I could not record both at the moment of docking
L298[06:59:45] <taniwha> yeah, that's because stock readout uses the vessel root as the source position
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L300[07:00:10] <taniwha> but DPAI should show the right distance
L301[07:00:28] <APlayer> I figured I only had an orientation indicator there, heh
L302[07:00:35] <APlayer> Navball DPAI version
L303[07:00:39] <taniwha> ah
L304[07:00:47] <taniwha> thought you meant NavyFish
L305[07:01:00] <taniwha> was wondering at the lack of a window
L306[07:01:04] <APlayer> Not sure whose it is
L307[07:01:22] <APlayer> The red circle on the NavBall
L308[07:01:30] <APlayer> That's the marker I have
L309[07:02:41] <APlayer> Practically speaking, it fully replaces the functionality of DPAI, can dock in the dark with only that and the stock distance readout
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L311[07:04:51] <APlayer> Anything else to test?
L312[07:05:12] <taniwha> not that I can think of
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L315[07:05:42] <APlayer> Well, then, congratulations, your modifications work! :D
L316[07:05:50] <taniwha> btw, I sometimes like to have NavyFish, Navball /and/ NavHud installed :)
L317[07:06:10] <APlayer> My screen is usually very overloaded anyway
L318[07:06:23] <APlayer> I cannot afford adding so many things
L319[07:07:22] <taniwha> yeah
L320[07:08:15] <APlayer> Typical screen setup of mine: https://i.imgur.com/pvvF4oS.png
L321[07:08:42] <taniwha> and new Tokamak released
L322[07:08:51] <APlayer> The big kOS window is not always there, but when it's not I use this area for other things
L323[07:11:17] <taniwha> yeah, never enough screen realestate
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L325[07:11:34] <APlayer> Anyway, I am removing the Tokamak test install, yes?
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L329[07:19:16] <taniwha> yeah
L330[07:19:24] <taniwha> thanks for your help
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L332[07:21:53] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/db215f9ad916a96fd80ec14543b62932/tumblr_npqexyhnWu1u54zazo1_250.png
L333[07:22:52] <TheKosmonaut> Fluburtur: HELLO I'M NOT VIRUS. PLEASE HELP ME PROTECT YOUR COMPUTER
L334[07:23:06] <TheKosmonaut> ENTER SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER FOR MAXIMUM PROTECTION
L335[07:23:29] <Fluburtur> heh
L336[07:23:45] <TheKosmonaut> -- Mr. Tech support not virus PhD
L337[07:24:23] <taniwha> PorkJet did do some nice parts :) http://taniwha.org/~bill/screenshot4212.png
L338[07:24:35] <taniwha> that inflato makes for a nice mini station
L339[07:24:48] <APlayer> I think if I ever let people download some software, I will include an EICAR test file and call it totally-not-a-virus.exe
L340[07:26:20] <Fluburtur> uuuuhhh 3 days until I go get my rc heli
L341[07:28:33] <APlayer> Wrong
L342[07:28:40] <APlayer> 2 days until FH launches
L343[07:28:47] <Fluburtur> I guess
L344[07:29:27] <taniwha> APlayer: what time?
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L346[07:29:34] <APlayer> 1 PM ET, IIRC
L347[07:29:49] <taniwha> ET?
L348[07:30:11] <APlayer> 1:30. ET = Easter Time, GMT-5, IIRC
L349[07:30:41] <taniwha> ok, 18:30 UTC
L350[07:30:51] <taniwha> 0330 here :/
L351[07:31:21] <APlayer> 1:30 ET is not 18:30 UTC
L352[07:31:27] <APlayer> Oh, wait, it is
L353[07:31:30] <APlayer> Woops
L354[07:32:17] <APlayer> 19:30 for me. I am /so/ watching
L355[07:32:32] <APlayer> If it was 3 AM, I'd set myself an alarm, though
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L357[07:34:03] <Fluburtur> btw you need to remind me before it launches because I will probably forget
L358[07:34:33] <taniwha> same
L359[07:34:37] <APlayer> Is there a kmath event?
L360[07:37:22] <taniwha> no idea
L361[07:38:15] <APlayer> Trying to dissect the commands of the bot ATM, haha
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L363[07:44:50] <APlayer> I don't think it's kmath that had those event reminder
L364[07:44:51] <APlayer> s
L365[07:45:03] <APlayer> It was kountdown, but that does not seem to be here
L366[07:45:10] <APlayer> ;query kountdown
L367[07:45:15] <APlayer> Woops
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L369[07:48:12] <TheKosmonaut> How long has it been since Kmath was useful?
L370[07:48:26] <TheKosmonaut> it can't even google anymore, last I checked.
L371[07:48:28] <TheKosmonaut> ;g test
L372[07:48:50] <APlayer> We need a bot to remind people of launches
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L374[07:48:58] <APlayer> Uh what
L375[07:49:07] <TheKosmonaut> Hmm, wrong bot
L376[07:49:07] <APlayer> Well, that's an option, but
L377[07:49:16] <TheKosmonaut> Just a sec.
L378[07:49:17] <APlayer> It does a lot more than that
L379[07:49:28] <TheKosmonaut> Lemme check something, I do know a bot dedicated to launches specifically
L380[07:49:48] *** Qboid was kicked by APlayer (Qboid))
L381[07:51:15] <TheKosmonaut> APlayer: I could have sent him away myself ha.
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L383[07:51:20] <TheKosmonaut> Poor qboid
L384[07:51:29] <TheKosmonaut> see, the bot came and got ya
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L389[07:57:05] <NicknameHere> .nextlaunch
L390[07:57:06] <NextlaunchBackup> Falcon Heavy | Demo Flight 1 (Maiden Flight) - http://www.spacex.com/webcast/ - NET February 6, 2018 18:30:00 UTC - T-2 days, 4:32:53
L391[07:57:39] <APlayer> That's pretty cool stuff right there
L392[07:58:00] <TheKosmonaut> Cool thanks NicknameHere
L393[07:58:18] <NicknameHere> Ermm. One moment, it doesn't join the other channel. Debugging...
L394[07:58:32] * TheKosmonaut gets the bug spray
L395[07:58:32] <NicknameHere> (This was just quickly thrown together)
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L398[08:01:50] <NicknameHere> .nextlaunch falcon
L399[08:01:51] <NextlaunchBackup> Falcon Heavy | Demo Flight 1 (Maiden Flight) - http://www.spacex.com/webcast/ - NET February 6, 2018 18:30:00 UTC - T-2 days, 4:28:08
L400[08:02:33] <APlayer> This bot is getting better by the minutes
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L402[08:10:46] <Tutankhamun> aye how tf do i install Kopernicus. I'vetried putting it in the Squad folder and other like Gamedata
L403[08:10:57] <Tutankhamun> others*
L404[08:12:00] <APlayer> There are detailed instructions included in a PDF file, IIRC
L405[08:12:25] <APlayer> But regardless, please do not swear in here, we like a very civil language ;-)
L406[08:12:53] <Tutankhamun> understandable
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L410[08:16:05] <APlayer> Have you found the instructions yet? I may be mistaken about the PDF
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L413[08:53:09] <Tutankhamun> couldn't find a PDF but i did manage to install it. any solution to why it won't load in-game?
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L417[09:11:56] <APlayer> Kopernicus on its own does not do anything
L418[09:12:54] <APlayer> You should put the folder of Kopernicus into GameData along with whatever mod you actually want to install, which presumably depends on Kopernicus.
L419[09:15:04] <Tutankhamun> i have the partner mod. so basically just put them side by side?
L420[09:17:01] <APlayer> Both should be in KSP/GameData/
L421[09:17:07] <APlayer> Yes, side by side
L422[09:22:46] <Tutankhamun> my folders are a mess haha
L423[09:25:45] <taniwha> Tutankhamun: never a good thing
L424[09:28:57] <taniwha> BWAHAHAAaa~~~ it verks it verks: http://taniwha.org/~bill/screenshot4214.png
L425[09:29:04] <Tutankhamun> nope. won't load
L426[09:31:28] <taniwha> (the display format is temporary for dev purposes)
L427[09:38:02] <Althego> that shape lol
L428[09:38:55] <taniwha> yeah, but my resource manager gets the topology :)
L429[09:39:16] <taniwha> (I alt-f12ed the bits into orbit)
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L431[09:50:12] <taniwha> now that I've got that bit done, I can focus on the UI
L432[09:50:26] <taniwha> and then make sure the symmetry sets work properly
L433[09:50:42] <taniwha> (ie, that they transfer resources symmetrically)
L434[09:58:11] <Fluburtur> went to fly with my friend
L435[09:58:22] <Fluburtur> it's the first time we are both in the air at the same time
L436[10:05:21] * APlayer pictures Fluburtur and friends suspended in the air, wildly screaming and waving their arms and legs
L437[10:05:33] <Fluburtur> lel
L438[10:06:21] <Althego> wow godless engineer and professor stick in the same video, and it is anti flat earth
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L448[10:55:34] <lordcirth> New favorite design: core liquid engine, onion-staged drop tanks with SRBs on the bottom timed to run out at the same time
L449[10:58:03] <lordcirth> It's kinda silly but it's neat
L450[10:58:24] <RandomJeb> sounds complex but also somewhat fun
L451[11:05:19] <kuzetsa> lordcirth: so the SRBs are cheap & cost less than LFO engines, right?
L452[11:05:28] <kuzetsa> think I've seen / heard of that design before
L453[11:16:58] <Draconiator> Onion staging?
L454[11:18:12] <APlayer> AFAIK, that's another word for asparagus staging
L455[11:18:51] <Draconiator> Ah.
L456[11:19:12] <Draconiator> or maybe parallel staging?
L457[11:19:13] <UmbralRaptor> More of fake asparagus, dropping off entire layers instead of pairs of boosters.
L458[11:19:31] <Draconiator> I used to use asparagus but it's too complicated to set up.
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L460[11:20:49] <RandomJeb> my launch vehicles tend to just be one main stack of liquid fuel with a few boosters to help it go up for the first 30 seconds to a minute so it can burn off enough liquid fuel for the main stack thrusters to do their thing properly
L461[11:21:47] <Draconiator> Same.
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L467[11:30:05] <Draconiator> I SOOOOOOOO wish there was a way to clean out RAM without restarting.....
L468[11:34:02] <Draconiator> Annnnd I found something lol
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L470[11:40:22] <Draconiator> only way I can speecd up my PC now is if I get a SSD....but problem with that....still too expensive.
L471[11:42:02] <lordcirth> This is what I meant: https://imgur.com/a/Kr8s7
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L474[11:50:35] <Draconiator> oh THAT IS IT, I'm boycotting Kerbodyne, they monopolize the 3.5 diameter market with their "Rhino" :P
L475[11:56:17] <lordcirth> Draconiator, Near Future Launch Vehicles
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L477[12:04:55] <Mathuin> I have never used asparagus staging or any of the crazy "bolt on moar boosters" things.
L478[12:11:03] <lordcirth> I don't use it a ton, since FAR doesn't like it as much
L479[12:11:13] <lordcirth> But I often use a pair of boosters with crossfeed
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L481[12:25:41] <Draconiator> I need to record this...dunno what's causing it but it's insanely hilarious
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L483[12:38:13] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpSiKlQTGnU&feature=youtu.be
L484[12:38:14] <kmath> YouTube - INSANELY hilarious KSP Bug
L485[12:41:29] <Althego> it's alive!
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L487[13:02:43] <RandomJeb> fun oscillations, if you can harness that flapping you may have an atmospheric kraken drive
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L489[13:07:52] <APlayer> I consider this a launch failure
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L498[13:46:31] <EricPoehlsen> hmm just binge-watched Altered Carbon ...
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L502[13:58:27] <Fluburtur> apparently I got a very rare event chain in stellaris
L503[13:58:38] <ve2dmn> which one?
L504[13:58:46] <Fluburtur> the one related to a black hole
L505[13:58:53] <Fluburtur> with time paradoxes and stuff
L506[13:59:05] <Fluburtur> https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Horizon_Signal_events
L507[13:59:06] <ve2dmn> it's not *that* rare
L508[13:59:26] <ve2dmn> also... WHAT WAS, SHALL BE
L509[13:59:40] <Fluburtur> heh
L510[14:00:08] <Fluburtur> I also got dudes living in gas giants asking me to relocate them
L511[14:00:13] <Fluburtur> they are pretty cool
L512[14:00:17] <ve2dmn> It's a very fun and very weird even chain
L513[14:00:37] <ve2dmn> Thoses?
L514[14:00:46] <Fluburtur> they give some boost in research so I don't mind
L515[14:00:55] <Fluburtur> and I got a science ship for free anyways
L516[14:01:13] <Fluburtur> one of mine got trapped in another dimension for a moment then another appeared
L517[14:01:21] <Fluburtur> plus the one that I got from the black hole
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L520[14:02:24] <ve2dmn> I put Stellaris on the backburner
L521[14:02:32] <ve2dmn> waiting for the 2.0 stuff
L522[14:02:59] <Fluburtur> yeah
L523[14:03:08] <Fluburtur> will chaneg the whole game apparently
L524[14:03:22] <Fluburtur> but well im still rather bad so at least I wo'nt have to re-learn everything
L525[14:03:49] <ve2dmn> Right now I have FF12, Cities:Skyline, Anno2205, Halcyon 6, Steamworld Heist and KSP to finish
L526[14:04:16] <Fluburtur> I want to get the natural disasters dlc for cities skyline
L527[14:04:22] <Fluburtur> to add more fun
L528[14:04:22] <ve2dmn> Stellaris 2.0 will be hyperlanes-only
L529[14:04:30] <Fluburtur> yeah
L530[14:04:38] <mabus> i obsess over ways to improve traffic intersections irl still
L531[14:04:39] <ve2dmn> Warp will be a late-game thing
L532[14:04:40] <Fluburtur> well anyways all the games with the friends are hyperlane now
L533[14:04:43] <mabus> havent even played cs:s in a few months
L534[14:04:43] <Fluburtur> to get used to irt
L535[14:05:11] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: you have friends? lucky you
L536[14:05:23] <Fluburtur> tyeah we are 4 on the same game
L537[14:05:34] <Fluburtur> im usualy the weakest one however
L538[14:05:43] <ve2dmn> My friends are too old... or not into Stellaris
L539[14:06:35] <ve2dmn> Although, I might convince them to get Starcraft : Remastered
L540[14:06:54] <ve2dmn> We could play a game of BigGameHunters for old time sake
L541[14:09:51] <ve2dmn> Should I get Factorio, They are Billions or Rimworld?
L542[14:19:38] <Ezko> ve2dmn: yes
L543[14:20:42] <ve2dmn> "Steam has finished Downloading Factorio"
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L547[14:22:48] <ve2dmn> I should just take a week off and enjoy these games
L548[14:22:55] <ve2dmn> or maybe a month
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L551[14:31:31] <Althego> serious anti flat earther geodetic surveyor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqfP3eAXAyBkuOmvIU9J2dQ/videos
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L553[14:37:07] <UmbralRaptor> yt;dw
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L560[15:24:16] <Fluburtur> well I jsut lost my two special science ships
L561[15:24:26] <Fluburtur> the transparent glowing one and the one from the future
L562[15:26:05] <lordcirth> Fluburtur, Stellaris?
L563[15:26:10] <Fluburtur> yes
L564[15:32:45] <Mat2ch> I still have a stellaris key I don't need :P
L565[15:46:00] <Fluburtur> I have a friend that wants stellaris
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L574[16:54:01] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: sounds like a trade offer ;)
L575[16:54:13] <Fluburtur> yeah kinda
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L577[16:56:36] <Mat2ch> Let's talk tomorrow, have to get my sleep cycle back on track
L578[16:56:38] <Mat2ch> Nighty night
L579[16:56:52] <Fluburtur> heh good luck
L580[16:56:57] <Fluburtur> night*
L581[17:07:01] <Draconiator> Hey Flub, check out what happenned to me today heh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpSiKlQTGnU
L582[17:07:02] <kmath> YouTube - INSANELY hilarious KSP Bug
L583[17:07:17] <Fluburtur> yeah I saw that
L584[17:07:19] <Fluburtur> became a bird
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L587[17:20:10] <Draconiator> Still not sure what caused it...but probably the top half of my new station was to blame. Took it off and will have to complete it manually later
L588[17:30:09] <lordcirth> My solar panels are empty boxes with no panels inside
L589[17:30:18] <lordcirth> Who knows what bug did that
L590[17:34:14] <RandomJeb> Draconiator: it looked like some weird resonance that kept building in strength for each oscillation, aided by the procedural fairing joints being very stretchy
L591[17:35:16] <Fluburtur> also I cast another nozzle for my rocket and I think it might work
L592[17:35:25] <Fluburtur> if I can get it out of the mold
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L613[20:15:34] <Fluburtur> there is a hole in the divergent wall of my nozzle
L614[20:15:38] <Fluburtur> well still gonna test it
L615[20:18:15] <KrazyKrl> It's a speed hole.
L616[20:18:25] <KrazyKrl> Fluids go faster when going through a speed hole.
L617[20:18:57] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405528003997859842/409895623672725504/DSC_8367.JPG
L618[20:30:23] <Fluburtur> alright I glued the nozzle to the fuel assembly
L619[20:32:11] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405528003997859842/409898957779632128/DSC_8368.JPG
L620[20:32:54] <Fluburtur> I will set that glue for the night and fire it tomorrow
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L626[21:07:08] <Pakaran> this is just fun... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE6TAvX18eA
L627[21:07:08] <kmath> YouTube - Duna Attacks: a KSP Movie
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L633[21:17:08] <lordcirth> Yeah he put a lot of work into those
L634[21:18:23] <TheKosmonaut> .nextlaunch
L635[21:18:24] <NextlaunchBackup> Falcon Heavy | Demo Flight 1 (Maiden Flight) - http://www.spacex.com/webcast/ - NET February 6, 2018 18:30:00 UTC - T-1 day, 15:11:35
L636[21:18:30] <TheKosmonaut> HYPE
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L639[21:22:33] <Pakaran> so I changed enough mods that I think I'll restart, and maybe do a science game for fun/to test ideas for the career game I run in paralle.
L640[21:22:52] <Pakaran> also move KSP out of Steam control so it doesn't break in future
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L651[21:57:18] <lordcirth> Pakaran, and keep a clean copy of each KSP version outside of Steam. Saves on downloading later, and you never know how far back they'll keep providing them
L652[21:57:43] <Rokker> Supernovy: check PMs
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L654[22:00:12] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: no
L655[22:00:32] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: yes
L656[22:00:57] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: did you watch the super plate
L657[22:01:17] <Rokker> ?
L658[22:01:36] <TheKosmonaut> The Mega Bowl
L659[22:02:00] <TheKosmonaut> The Hyper Carafe
L660[22:04:25] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: I don't watch foosball
L661[22:06:20] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: what are you, Canadian
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L663[22:06:29] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: yes
L664[22:06:37] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: ew
L665[22:06:44] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: I'm gonna have to find a way to watch the launch at work...
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L671[22:24:12] <Draconiator> Cirth - I still have 1.2.2 elsewhere, and I only use the Steam copy to keep a fresh update.
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L673[22:27:09] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: hmm
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L675[22:28:08] <JCB> hmmm...
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