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L9[00:41:08] <Althego> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399309813713993730/409167011977887745/image.jpg
L10[00:41:20] <Althego> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399309813713993730/409170598938279941/image.jpg
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L13[01:06:12] <Althego> next week is falcon heavy, finally
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L15[01:26:04] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: I won't hold my breath until it is T+1
L16[01:26:09] <TheKosmonaut> They always find something
L17[01:26:10] <Althego> hehe
L18[01:26:12] <Althego> yes
L19[01:26:21] <TheKosmonaut> The universe is fighting SpaceX
L20[01:26:31] <TheKosmonaut> A meteor will probably hit the Cape
L21[01:26:53] <Althego> http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/01949/opgs/edr/ncam/NLB_570519386EDR_F0680000NCAM00289M_.JPG
L22[01:27:13] <Althego> i like these hills (actually edge of crater far away pictures
L23[01:29:45] <Althego> s/crater/crater)/
L24[01:32:33] <TheKosmonaut> I usually set pics like that in a queue of photos that cycle through my wallpaper
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L26[01:38:47] <Althego> rl mirror's edge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcKkiRl9_qE
L27[01:38:47] <kmath> YouTube - Rooftop POV Escape from Hong Kong security! ????
L28[01:40:05] <Althego> hehe i wanted to slide down between the two escalators many times :)
L29[01:40:08] <Althego> and they did it
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L33[01:46:14] <Althego> opportunity working for 14 years
L34[01:48:01] <umaxtu> you think it'll still be working by the time Mars 2020 gets there?
L35[01:48:56] <Althego> at thes point it is likely
L36[01:49:18] <Althego> i think 1 wheel and 1 arm motor is what it lost
L37[01:49:36] <Althego> and one of the instruments that relied on a radioactive isotope, because it all decayed away
L38[01:49:37] <umaxtu> and nonvolatile storage
L39[01:49:51] <Althego> but all in all it is in pretty good condition
L40[01:50:50] <umaxtu> I think it might get retired if its still working if/when Mars 2020 lands
L41[01:51:07] <Althego> probably not
L42[01:52:13] <umaxtu> it costs money to run
L43[01:52:29] <Althego> but less than a launch
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L45[01:53:27] <umaxtu> I guess we will find out
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L65[05:48:22] <Althego> water finds its level, eh, flat earthers? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5uvAv0qga0
L66[05:48:22] <kmath> YouTube - Forming paraboloids on water
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L70[06:01:13] <Mat2ch> Althego: they use the same principle to make those mirrors for observatories
L71[06:01:28] <Althego> yes metal liquid mirrors
L72[06:02:37] <taniwha> Althego: but the water /is/ finding its level
L73[06:02:54] <Althego> yes, but it is not horizontal what they think
L74[06:03:06] <Althego> it is perpendicular to the acceleration
L75[06:03:16] <taniwha> yeah
L76[06:07:32] <taniwha> very nice demo, though
L77[06:07:54] <Mat2ch> Also from the comments... the guy is an a$&ยง
L78[06:08:09] <Mat2ch> Althego: no, glass mirrors
L79[06:08:18] <Mat2ch> eh
L80[06:08:20] <Mat2ch> lenses
L81[06:08:23] <Mat2ch> sorry
L82[06:08:36] <Althego> you mean the mirrors are spun until they solidify?
L83[06:08:41] <Mat2ch> yep
L84[06:08:50] <Mat2ch> let me search the video
L85[06:09:10] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP9HNVuGb-g
L86[06:09:11] <kmath> YouTube - 17 Tonnes of Spinning Glass: Making the World's Largest Telescope
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L88[06:10:13] <taniwha> Mat2ch: youtube comment section... where discourse goes to die
L89[06:10:22] <Althego> hehe
L90[06:10:28] <Althego> what was in the comments?
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L92[06:10:32] <Althego> it is rare i look at them
L93[06:10:51] <taniwha> dunno, but just something I've heard a lot recently
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L95[06:10:58] <Althego> for a short while i read them under moon hoaxer or anti moon hoaxer videos, just for the lulz
L96[06:11:14] <Mat2ch> taniwha: but if the makers are the worst part of it...
L97[06:13:39] <Draconiator> Were you able to get that electric prop working Althe?
L98[06:13:55] <Althego> based on its name it is a mod part
L99[06:13:59] <Althego> so i didnt try it
L100[06:14:16] <Draconiator> ah, you don't like mods.
L101[06:14:23] <Althego> so i either need to build a better one, or wait until one happens in stock
L102[06:15:29] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/7a27c77215932f6ef2a3cf6e5b243a61/tumblr_ohvw4bpVYt1vjckqfo1_540.jpg
L103[06:15:41] <Draconiator> I can respect going mod-less, but....eh...
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L106[06:17:51] <Althego> devilcat?
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L108[06:18:08] <Althego> it is mostly out of lazyness. they are too much to maintain
L109[06:20:00] <Althego> i just realized there is only 1 lack youtuber i watch. and even that happened only recently because of flat earth
L110[06:20:06] <Althego> greatersapien
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L117[06:44:46] <Fluburtur> anyone knows an easy way to make rokcet nozzles?
L118[06:44:59] <Fluburtur> because im losing my patience over making a turned mold and this just won't work
L119[06:45:48] <Althego> maybe with a lathe
L120[06:45:54] <Fluburtur> I don't have that
L121[06:46:06] <Althego> drill press?
L122[06:46:28] <Fluburtur> tried
L123[06:46:30] <Fluburtur> doesn't work
L124[06:46:34] <Althego> hehe
L125[06:46:45] <Althego> how it's made? rocket nozzles :)
L126[06:47:32] <Althego> and plumbus of course
L127[06:48:02] <Althego> maybe make an aerospike?
L128[06:48:12] <Althego> from a cone and a hole
L129[06:48:16] <Althego> or something like that
L130[06:48:30] <Fluburtur> listen I need something simple that I can make in a few hours
L131[06:48:50] <Althego> cant be that simple
L132[06:49:04] <Althego> it has to withstand the heat for at least a few seconds
L133[06:49:17] <Althego> so probably it also withstnds your tools
L134[06:49:32] <Fluburtur> I wanted to make a mold for a plaster nozzle
L135[06:49:56] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWDX9WKYbhg
L136[06:49:56] <kmath> YouTube - Making a rocket nozzle for a PVC rocket motor
L137[06:50:06] <Althego> this doesnt look so ahrd
L138[06:50:45] <Althego> used a funnel and some other pplastic plumbing
L139[06:50:47] <Althego> sounds reasonable
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L141[06:55:25] <Fluburtur> guess I will just pour some plaster into one of my tubes and then drill the nozzle shape in it
L142[06:55:53] <Althego> a nozzle doesnt need to be long in atmospheric conditions anyway
L143[06:56:00] <Fluburtur> yeah
L144[06:56:56] <Althego> the problem with this method the thrust is going to vary with each one if you make several nozzles
L145[06:57:09] <Fluburtur> yeah that's why I wanted to make a mold
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L147[07:05:58] <Althego> this also uses a funnel
L148[07:05:59] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfAZx4FPNkA
L149[07:05:59] <kmath> YouTube - Part 1: How to Build a High Power Rocket - Nozzles
L150[07:06:10] <Althego> you have to have at least one funnel somewhere in the house
L151[07:06:30] <Althego> put a toilet paper roll on it and you have your mold
L152[07:07:16] <Fluburtur> well I want nozzles for 22mm motors
L153[07:08:43] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-fjE1PesNw
L154[07:08:43] <kmath> YouTube - cuboro cugolino Kugelbahn "big ball"
L155[07:09:35] <Althego> so relaxing
L156[07:09:51] <Althego> hah tehre is an even bigger one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGsD19P16rs
L157[07:09:51] <kmath> YouTube - cuboro cugolino Kugelbahn "Route 66"
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L171[07:51:13] <Guest48436> anybody have any info on multiplayer?
L172[07:52:35] <Guest48436> when can we expect to see it
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L174[07:54:04] <Guest48436> anybody there?
L175[07:54:15] <sandbox> ...
L176[07:54:37] <Guest48436> any idea on multiplayer?
L177[07:54:51] <Guest48436> are the devs talking about it at all?
L178[07:56:38] <Guest48436> no?
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L180[07:57:41] <akoumoudjian> hi
L181[07:57:41] <Mod9000> Hello, akoumoudjian
L182[07:57:50] <Guest48436> hello
L183[07:57:51] <Mod9000> Hello, Guest48436
L184[07:58:04] <akoumoudjian> :)
L185[07:58:25] <Guest48436> im sorry to bug you guys but i was just wondering if anybody knows anything about multiplayer being released by squad
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L187[07:59:35] <akoumoudjian> when is 1.4 ?
L188[08:00:14] <Guest48436> nobody seems to talk here lol
L189[08:02:18] <Fluburtur> Althego https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405528003997859842/409347802724827156/DSC_8361.JPG
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L206[09:27:17] <Althego> 1.4? probably more than 1 month
L207[09:27:19] <Althego> maybe 3
L208[09:27:33] <Althego> Fluburtur: hmm, nics actually seems to be a de laval nozzle
L209[09:27:51] <Fluburtur> yeah I freestyles it
L210[09:28:13] <Althego> fluburtur style :)
L211[09:28:22] <Fluburtur> yeah
L212[09:28:30] <Fluburtur> I also cooked 25g of fuel
L213[09:28:34] <Althego> i can see the clip with rockets and nozzles already
L214[09:28:41] <Fluburtur> 5g didn't make it to the rocket but I can use those for igniters
L215[09:28:41] <Althego> what, you have to cook it?
L216[09:28:44] <Fluburtur> yeah
L217[09:28:51] <Fluburtur> the nozzle isn't ready yet
L218[09:29:04] <Fluburtur> and it looks like rocket candy loses like half of the volume when cooking
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L220[09:47:48] <lordcirth> TAC-LS and 4x scale. This ought to be fun
L221[09:48:09] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvv4gjepRvw
L222[09:48:09] <kmath> YouTube - SLS RS-25 Engine Test, 1 February 2018
L223[09:49:25] <lordcirth> vroom
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L228[09:54:55] <Althego> hehe, when it stopped i remembered the explosion scene frmo wings of honneamise (royal space force)
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L247[10:47:56] <lordcirth> I've got Ven's stock revamp installed, which is supposed to give you the LV-T15 Dachshund engine early and the Swivel later, but the Swivel is in Basic Rocketry
L248[10:48:24] <Fluburtur> BadRocketsCo https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405528003997859842/409347802724827156/DSC_8361.JPG
L249[10:48:40] <bees> swivel comes first since... a pretty long time
L250[10:48:44] <bees> (in stock)
L251[10:48:59] <lordcirth> bees, yes, but Ven's is supposed to change that
L252[10:49:10] <bees> maybe it saw the wisdom of stock's way
L253[10:49:13] <lordcirth> Not sure if something else is changing it back
L254[10:49:32] <lordcirth> The whole point of the Dachshund is that it's worse but cheaper
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L256[10:54:37] <lordcirth> Ah, it's CTT that does it. There's a patch
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L258[10:57:44] <akoumoudjian> hi
L259[10:57:46] <Mod9000> Hello, akoumoudjian
L260[10:58:31] <akoumoudjian> hi
L261[10:58:33] <Mod9000> Hello, akoumoudjian
L262[11:02:29] <Althego> hihi
L263[11:02:35] <Althego> the silly bot
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L266[11:08:44] <Fluburtur> the plaster I used for the nozzle takes forever to dry
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L271[11:23:25] <Fluburtur> I put it in a cardboard box with a hairdrier to amek it dry faster
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L274[12:06:47] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP48Urfv2NQ
L275[12:06:47] <kmath> YouTube - How a rocket engine works
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L277[12:20:41] <Althego> according to flat earthers there is no rocket thrust in vacuum because it needs to push against something lol
L278[12:20:52] <Althego> german accentalert
L279[12:21:00] <Althego> ok maybe not german, but germanic
L280[12:21:06] <Fluburtur> many peoples think that
L281[12:21:10] <Fluburtur> idk why
L282[12:21:42] <Fluburtur> anyways, diner time
L283[12:21:51] <Althego> stop, dinner time!
L284[12:25:26] <Fluburtur> back
L285[12:25:31] <Althego> that was fast
L286[12:25:34] <Althego> sandwhiches?
L287[12:25:43] <Fluburtur> I forgot my grandparents were going out
L288[12:25:45] <Fluburtur> so yeah
L289[12:27:05] <Draconiator> lol
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L291[12:27:16] <Althego> hmm, wolfie video
L292[12:27:21] <Althego> iss transit in 4k
L293[12:27:46] <Draconiator> no thrust in a vaccuum? ummmm.....it carries its own gas too, so that counts.
L294[12:28:18] <Althego> the only way to become a flat earther is to ignore not only several hundred years of physics, but also everyday experiences
L295[12:28:34] <Althego> like holding a water hose, shooting with a gun, etc
L296[12:29:02] <Fluburtur> it's pushing on air boviously
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L298[12:30:01] <Pakaran> I'm going to do all the tutorials from the beginning, for completeness, Gene's humor, and because I generally learn something whenever I do that.
L299[12:31:12] <Pakaran> any mods folks would suggest for loading screen fanart?
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L302[12:51:12] <Althego> what is a loading screen fanart?
L303[12:51:26] <Fluburtur> the pictures when you launch the game
L304[12:51:37] <Althego> arent those fixed?
L305[12:51:55] <Fluburtur> idk
L306[12:52:20] <Draconiator> LOL, I'm trying to make a high-speed high-altitude recon drone, but apparently it goes TOO high.....having a flameout problem heh
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L308[12:52:52] <Fluburtur> time for electric props
L309[12:55:44] <Althego> hehe. mixing doom sound effects on bunnies. gasp, you can do that?
L310[12:56:22] <Pakaran> omg
L311[12:56:42] <Pakaran> they want me to test the twin-boar at the launch site. I can probably build something useful around that.
L312[12:57:04] <Althego> very simple
L313[12:57:05] <Althego> remove fuel
L314[12:57:19] <Althego> or the other way is, if you want to burn it, turn it upside down
L315[12:57:31] <Althego> but i usually just remove fuel, the test counts nonetheless
L316[12:58:26] <Althego> and he mixed screams and roars from the original doom on bunnies yawning
L317[12:58:49] <Pakaran> thanks
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L319[13:17:01] <Fluburtur> I saw peoples arguing that a helicopter rotor isn't a gyroscope because it isn't a solid disc
L320[13:19:14] <Althego> lol
L321[13:19:21] <Althego> and yet it is called rotor disc
L322[13:19:33] <Fluburtur> yeah
L323[13:19:46] <Althego> and somewhat behaves as a disc as a wing surface
L324[13:19:57] <Fluburtur> you know about gyroscopic precession and how the rotor blades change pitch 90ยฐ out of phase
L325[13:20:11] <Fluburtur> some peoples say that it's because of control lag but eh
L326[13:20:24] <Fluburtur> pretty sure it's good ol gyroscopic effect
L327[13:22:47] <Fluburtur> also how single bladed rotors work
L328[13:22:54] <Althego> what do you mean change pitch?
L329[13:23:00] <Fluburtur> more efficient and actually more agile than dual rotor
L330[13:23:22] <Fluburtur> you know that rotor blades change their pitch while they rotate to move the heli around
L331[13:23:31] <Althego> they flap down on one side and up on the other because of the air moving past them
L332[13:23:39] <lordcirth> *sigh* I just returned a probe from orbit and now it's sinking and I can't recover
L333[13:23:51] <Althego> they change pitch because of the cyclyc and the collective
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L335[13:23:55] <Althego> cyclic
L336[13:24:19] <Fluburtur> yeah
L337[13:24:29] <lordcirth> Oh well, I got the "return from orbit" contract complete, anyway
L338[13:24:30] <Fluburtur> but im not sure I understand that flap thing means
L339[13:24:49] <Althego> birds flap their wings up and down
L340[13:25:12] <Fluburtur> well the rotor blades aren't really supposed to move up and down that much
L341[13:25:14] <Althego> similar way rotor blades flap up and down as they move from one side to the other
L342[13:25:18] <Fluburtur> they do flex a bit
L343[13:25:22] <Althego> yes, that
L344[13:25:45] <Fluburtur> the whole thing is supposed to rotate, not just the blades
L345[13:26:01] <Fluburtur> but there are some helis with free moving heads that can swivel around the shaft
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L351[13:37:55] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zj_JtleHlM
L352[13:37:55] <kmath> YouTube - Dissymmetry of Lift
L353[13:38:33] <Althego> helicopters are complicated
L354[13:39:08] <Fluburtur> yeah
L355[13:39:09] <Fluburtur> uh
L356[13:39:19] <Fluburtur> I need to find some wire that burns at like two amps
L357[13:39:33] <Althego> a 2 amp fuse? :)
L358[13:39:51] <Fluburtur> well I was using a single iron strand from some womputer wire
L359[13:40:10] <Fluburtur> didn't get hot but the wires I used it to connect to the battery almost melted
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L361[13:41:21] <Althego> nobody does high altitude balloon and rocket combo to go even higher. why? nose did that for the supersonic decelerator
L362[13:41:52] <Althego> but there are these high altitude balloon videos and it is always just balloons
L363[13:44:08] <Fluburtur> so if I connect the tiny piece of wire direclty it does burn
L364[13:44:27] <Fluburtur> guess I need wire with less resistance for the part that isn't supposed to burn then
L365[13:44:53] <RandomJeb> one of the big ones has some plans for a balloon and rocket combo but I forget all the specifics including which one
L366[13:45:11] <RandomJeb> also unsure if they're even beyond looking at viability
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L369[13:52:17] <Guest18204> ey
L370[13:52:25] <Althego> hi
L371[13:52:26] <Mod9000> Hello, Althego
L372[13:52:29] <Althego> ergh
L373[13:52:37] <Guest18204> I just bought the game
L374[13:52:38] <Althego> i hate this misfeature
L375[13:52:48] <Guest18204> on a mav OS and it doesn't run well
L376[13:52:51] <Guest18204> damn
L377[13:52:56] <Guest18204> mac*
L378[13:53:24] <Althego> few people use that
L379[13:53:36] <Althego> transitbiker for example, not here now
L380[13:53:56] <Althego> hmm, new scott video
L381[13:54:54] <Fluburtur> igniting rocket candy with a piezo doesn't work
L382[13:56:18] <Althego> i dont know about that
L383[13:56:46] <Althego> but i know that some explosives or fuels are hard to get on flame
L384[13:57:37] <Fluburtur> I guess I could pack some of the dust in a paper tube for ignition
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L386[14:00:28] <Fluburtur> and peoples say to not hit it/drop it/scratch it too hard because it could catch fire
L387[14:00:30] <Fluburtur> eh
L388[14:00:34] <Fluburtur> is not hypergolics
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L391[14:10:57] <Althego> so in the video... it seems wind turbines would work on mars
L392[14:11:14] <Fluburtur> witht he puny atmospheric presure?
L393[14:11:14] <Althego> because of reasons (higher speeds and colder air with different composition)
L394[14:13:17] <Althego> colder air is denser, carbon dioxide is denser at the same pressure, and lot higher wind speeds, all combined together make it a possibility
L395[14:13:38] <Althego> and they are relatively easy to create onsite unlike solar panels
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L397[14:17:42] <Fluburtur> I packed a bunch of candy rocket fragments in a paper tube I guess this would work as a fuse
L398[14:21:31] <Fluburtur> I burned candy rocket in my room and now it smells like burnt stuff
L399[14:21:46] <Althego> my left achilles tendon started to hurt this morning randomly
L400[14:21:56] <Althego> maybe a sign of old age already
L401[14:22:38] <Fluburtur> you are becoming a grandpa
L402[14:22:45] <Fluburtur> you need to go to space while you still can
L403[14:22:53] <Althego> without offspring that is impossible
L404[14:23:01] <Fluburtur> but you know my right shoulder hurts when I sneeze so idk
L405[14:24:01] <Althego> my left knee hurts sometimes, but that has been like that for like 35 years
L406[14:24:05] <Althego> *25
L407[14:24:30] <Althego> however this is new
L408[14:24:31] <Fluburtur> the human body is a nice machine but some parts are poorly designed
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L425[15:44:43] <Mathuin> There's an old joke about how God wasn't a civil engineer because who puts a waste facility next door to an amusement park.
L426[15:45:55] <Fluburtur> heh
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L428[15:52:00] <Mathuin> Is there a collection of conventional wisdom on improving the visual experience without significantly impacting performance?
L429[15:52:49] <Mathuin> Which visual mods are low-impact performance-wise and high-impact to the player? :-)
L430[15:55:15] <Fluburtur> I just manage to stab myself with 5 cutter blades at once
L431[15:55:39] <Mathuin> On purpose?
L432[15:55:50] <Fluburtur> why would I do that on purpose
L433[15:56:04] <Mathuin> I... don't know.
L434[15:56:40] <Fluburtur> I opened my box of blades and have a little issue
L435[15:57:00] <Mathuin> Ah. I had an artist friend who had this nifty multiple-parallel-blades thing she used for cutting paper and plastic.
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L437[15:57:39] <Fluburtur> nice
L438[15:57:57] <Mathuin> So that's what I was picturing you playing with and maybe poking yourself to see if it hurt or something crazy like that.
L439[15:58:09] <Fluburtur> the blades I have are really sharp
L440[15:58:16] <Fluburtur> like graphics artist stuff
L441[15:58:27] <Fluburtur> more pointy that usual ones as well
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L443[15:58:55] <Fluburtur> those ones https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41RxCxfh23L.jpg
L444[15:59:49] <Mathuin> I had a slidy safety knife that used those.
L445[16:00:18] <Fluburtur> those are great
L446[16:00:24] <Fluburtur> but get dull rather fast
L447[16:00:40] <Fluburtur> but well, I got two and a half boxes of those for free
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L449[16:02:11] <Mathuin> Best price
L450[16:02:21] <Fluburtur> yeah
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L452[16:07:05] <Mathuin> Looks like Planetshine is no longer actively supported. I did like the way it changed the ambient light.
L453[16:14:13] <Mathuin> Hah! Auroras come from EVE, now I know.
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L457[16:44:00] <Mathuin> Hrm. I'm seeing KER output on a vehicle which doesn't have a KER part, and I don't have KER-everywhere (or whatever it's called) installed. Wonder why?
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L467[17:43:52] <lordcirth> Mathuin, there's a setting in VAB to enable it Partless. I always do. Other than that, having an Engineer aboard grants KER
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L486[20:08:14] <Rokker> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=40509.0;attach=1390581;image
L487[20:10:21] <UmbralRaptor> What's the big one?
L488[20:10:22] <tawny-> oo what are those
L489[20:11:27] <Rokker> UmbralRaptor: castor 4xl
L490[20:11:50] <Rokker> tawny-: SS-520-5 the world's newest and smallest launch vehicle
L491[20:11:51] <UmbralRaptor> tawny-: The small one is that Japanese sounding rocket that carried a small payload to orbit the other day.
L492[20:11:59] <tawny-> ooo neat
L493[20:12:08] <Rokker> compared to a delta ii booster
L494[20:12:13] <UmbralRaptor> *sounding rocket* o_O
L495[20:12:27] <Rokker> UmbralRaptor: eh, it had a 3rd stage added
L496[20:13:26] <UmbralRaptor> That would help.
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L498[20:14:55] <Rokker> tawny-: just in case you cant picture how small it was https://www.globalsecurity.org/space/world/japan/images/ss-520-image2.jpg
L499[20:15:02] <tawny-> oh WOW
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L501[20:16:51] <Rokker> tawny-: put a 3U cubesat into orbit
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L505[20:28:00] <Fluburtur> well I just played like 3 hours of stellaris
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L507[20:28:23] <Fluburtur> felt like 1
L508[20:29:28] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/9f7ecd407a2a643992106d628db099b1/tumblr_inline_p34qx7nq4y1rywcu6_540.gif
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L510[20:56:39] <Epi> I wonder why launching a rocket like that from a jet/plane is not more often a thing
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L512[21:01:22] <bees> Epi: too long?
L513[21:01:50] <Epi> maybe, seems like they could save a little fuel, maybe fit 1 or 2more kg of payload in it
L514[21:01:59] <bees> and too heavy
L515[21:02:09] <Epi> ah yeah
L516[21:04:34] <bees> actually...
L517[21:05:09] <bees> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novator_KS-172
L518[21:05:13] <bees> only 750kg
L519[21:06:26] <bees> length is okay
L520[21:06:34] <bees> diameter/mass is not
L521[21:08:24] <oren> I think you could save lot more fuel by launching from a railgun or something than a plane
L522[21:09:05] <oren> *lofstrom loop intensifies*
L523[21:09:55] <oren> really any situation where you can derive energy from the ground is a win
L524[21:11:04] * bees slaps mach3_oren around a bit with a large air
L525[21:11:21] <bees> and lose it to atmosphere
L526[21:11:27] <bees> _especially_ with a small vehicle
L527[21:12:57] <oren> bees: that's why we need lofstrom loop. to get ground-based energy while sitting at 50 km altitude
L528[21:13:07] <bees> yeah yeah 50km altitude
L529[21:13:34] <bees> you need something successful at ground level first
L530[21:13:39] <bees> as a technology demostrator
L531[21:13:55] <bees> i propose ram/scramjet + rocket ssto
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L533[21:14:11] <bees> accelerated at ground level to ram/scram speeds
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L535[21:15:53] <oren> bees: any altitude is a massive win really. so, ground-based, should ideall mean Ecuador
L536[21:16:15] <oren> or Tibet
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L539[21:20:42] <oren> hooray, my moho rover is almost at a new biome
L540[21:21:34] <oren> and sets the Mohovian land speed record at 15 m/s
L541[21:21:46] <Mathuin> OOC, how are you handling the science? Transmission, remote lab?
L542[21:21:51] <Mathuin> Return?
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L544[21:22:55] <oren> Mathuin: transmission right now sisnce it's unmanned. All my manned missions have returned thye science
L545[21:23:33] <Mathuin> Well, if the kerbals are coming back, they might as well truck back all their notes. :-)
L546[21:24:40] <oren> I have tried to do unmanned return missions before but they all failed
L547[21:25:07] <oren> I should try again with the moons of Eve
L548[21:28:02] <oren> is moho lacked to the sun?
L549[21:29:22] <oren> oh, it's just got a 123 kerbin-day long day
L550[21:30:00] <oren> which is longer than its year. lol
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L557[22:10:34] <Draconiator> There's only one moon of Eve, unless you're modded.
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L559[22:10:56] <Draconiator> I had OPM myself but got rid of it because I realized I never ysed it lol
L560[22:11:02] <Draconiator> *used
L561[22:19:35] <taniwha> Draconiator: try New Horizons
L562[22:20:09] <taniwha> (only problem with NH, imo, is it nerfs the science)
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L564[22:41:15] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/46ae55cbe57e7be7471152ebd7880739.png
L565[22:46:27] <Draconiator> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/scientists-may-found-planets-another-185500621.html
L566[22:49:32] <taniwha> that's... impressive
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