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L24[03:21:20] <Epi> what even.. space junk
related?
L25[03:23:00] <Supercheese> I don't wanna
know
L26[03:27:48] <Gasher[work]> Epi, close.
It's one of those things that require distinct answer to which
gender the user would be
L27[03:32:14] <Mat2ch> you could solve this
with an adapter ;P
L28[03:33:01] <Mat2ch> I wonder what
happens to the hard parts, since there's a sieve
L29[03:33:15] <Mat2ch> but I'm not sure if
this is inappropriate for this channel
L30[03:33:57] <Gasher[work]> Mat2ch, noone
would design an addition to a complex working device for political
correctness sake
L31[03:40:00] <Gasher[work]> Mat2ch, looks
like it just has one-use pack in it where solid parts are
kept
L32[03:40:11] <Mat2ch> Ah
L33[03:40:17] <Gasher[work]> also those ARE
adapters
L34[03:40:23] <Mat2ch> that's
possible
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L38[03:54:59] <spaceballs> aieee haven't
played in a long time and I'm trying to figure out a minimum of
mods to use, I think I'm already going overboard
L39[03:58:24] <Supercheese> the sky isn't
even the limit when it comes to KSP mods
L40[03:58:37] <Supercheese> only your
RAM/CPU/GPU is the limit
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L70[07:06:50] <TheKosmonaut> Hope nobody is
taking Inokashira home
L71[07:07:52] <GlassFragments>
...inokashira? that't wont get you back to kita-senju
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L73[07:09:53] <GlassFragments>
TheKosmonaut, school ended super early today so that there would be
enough time for those living further away to get home
L74[07:10:19] <TheKosmonaut>
GlassFragments: no. I saw this posted
L75[07:10:35] <TheKosmonaut>
GlassFragments: Tokyo gets so chaotic in the snow
L76[07:10:41] <TheKosmonaut> Is this your
first snow here?
L77[07:10:50] <GlassFragments> my first
real snow
L78[07:10:51] <TheKosmonaut> The grocery
near my house is abandoned
L79[07:11:10] <TheKosmonaut> It's great.
Because they put everything on discount by 7pm.
L80[07:11:36] <TheKosmonaut> It's the
heaviest in a while.
L81[07:11:49] <GlassFragments> in 2015/16
it snowed while I was sick in bed and somehow one week later I
could still see a pile of snow next to a road somewhere
L82[07:11:53] <TheKosmonaut> My neighbors
are shoveling already. Why bother when it's still falling at a good
rate.
L83[07:12:16] <TheKosmonaut> It's like
going outside and hosing the sidewalk when it's raining
L84[07:12:28] <GlassFragments> yeah I can
hear shoveling all the time
L85[07:12:37] <zilti> ve2dmn: it was the
"Extreme Textures" :)
L86[07:14:10] <GlassFragments>
TheKosmonaut, sucks that my phone battery ran out when I got to my
station because ekimae was fairy tale level beautiful
L87[07:14:56] <GlassFragments> also my
cracked screen started falling off so I had to be careful not to
get the exposed circuitry wet
L90[07:22:28] <TheKosmonaut> I hate that
train
L93[07:25:16] <TheKosmonaut> Huh never seen
that one before
L94[07:27:39] <GlassFragments> the box with
the controls is clearly visible, I think there might even be a sign
that you might have to give up your seat if they have to operate
manually
L97[07:28:27] <TheKosmonaut> Yeah I know
that. I just haven't seen it operated before
L98[07:29:34] <GlassFragments> I also had a
JR east driver signal me to stop filming out of the front
window
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L100[07:35:56] <ve2dmn> zilti: ... I rest
my case :P
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L110[08:44:42] <ve2dmn> Good morning
L111[08:46:39] <Mat2ch> Ahaha. Because of
the gov shutdown Falcon Heavy can't be operated
L112[08:46:48] <Mat2ch> the universe
doesn't want SpaceX to fly :D
L113[08:47:16] *
ve2dmn facepalm
L114[08:47:23] <ve2dmn> The art of
compromise is dead
L115[08:52:23] <ve2dmn> I really wish we
would learn form the lessons of the past. The generation that lived
through the great depression were really risk-averse, but it served
them well by building on solid founcation... While the generation
that followed live through great wars and were willing to
compromise to make stuff happen.
L116[08:53:00] <ve2dmn> Not sure what our
generation will be remembered for.
L117[08:54:24] <TheKosmonaut> Dank
memes
L118[08:54:34] <TheKosmonaut> And the
internet in general
L119[08:55:05] <TheKosmonaut> Though you
could argue that it's a multigenerational creation
L120[08:55:35] <ve2dmn> TheKosmonaut: the
historian of the future will have a lot of crap to look at to find
the good stuff
L121[08:56:30] <ve2dmn> but then again,
the previous generation didn't have the means to publish, so
there's probably good material that died in the past, forgotten to
the ages
L122[08:57:01] <TheKosmonaut> There's
plenty of utter garbage from the past too. It just doesn't quite
stand the test of time.
L123[08:57:30] <TheKosmonaut> Hopefully,
SpaceX keeps their Texas launch facility construction at a good
pace
L124[08:57:34] <ve2dmn> Like that
steam-powered door from ancien greece that was just 'a curiousity'
and didn't manage to caught on
L125[08:57:36] <TheKosmonaut> ~2019
ish
L126[08:58:16] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn: there was
a Roman site in todays Turkey (iirc) which used a waterwheel for
driving a saw
L127[08:58:42] <Mat2ch> the first
invention of a steam machine was used to turn an ox over the
fire...
L128[08:58:58] <ve2dmn> Mat2ch: I guess
the time wasn't right for the idea to flourish into more
L129[08:59:06] <Mat2ch> (well, the first
documented steam machine at least)
L130[08:59:13] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn: slaves
were cheap.
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L132[08:59:59] <ve2dmn> Mat2ch: Typical.
Blame the economy :P
L133[09:00:48] <ve2dmn> (The Economy, or
the fight for ressources, explains a LOT of things)
L134[09:01:39] <ve2dmn> Like the greatest
mathematicians were only able to do their thing because they were
financed by rich and influancial people
L135[09:07:09] <ve2dmn> Taking a page from
math, I feel like the ancien one were more concern about the look
of the function, while the recent generation are more obsessed with
the first derivative and the second derivative of that
function...
L136[09:08:21] <ve2dmn> Sure Y=X-(10^10)
has a positive outlook, but that means starting in ungodly
debts
L137[09:14:11] <zilti> There's still a bit
of a slowdown during the first 2 minutes after launch, but I can
live with that.
L138[09:14:33] <zilti> Now all I'm stuck
with is that, in space, the camera isn't centered on my probe, but
instead on an imaginary point
L139[09:15:02] <ve2dmn> zilti: try
re-aiming camera?
L140[09:15:58] <zilti> ve2dmn: That
doesn't work...
L141[09:16:10] <ve2dmn> what's the key
again... 'v' was it ?
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L147[09:25:55] <Fluburtur> did a white
tiger ever look at any of you like you were food?
L148[09:26:10] <Fluburtur> because it's
like the scariest thing ever
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L151[09:26:53] <zilti> Fluburtur: ...well,
I mean, you *are* edible, so...
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L153[09:27:05] <Fluburtur> true
L154[09:27:21] <Fluburtur> but being 3
meters above the kitten and protected by a strong window didn't do
much
L155[09:27:22] <zilti> But, no, that
didn't happen to me. How did you get the honour? ^^
L156[09:27:46] <Fluburtur> also there was
a girl like 5 years old running across the window and the tiger was
following her
L157[09:27:52] <zilti> Heh
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L159[09:28:13] <Fluburtur> and honestly,
im often like "I want to pet big kitten" but this always
remind me that those things are powerful
L160[09:28:19] <Fluburtur> and that I
still want to pet them
L161[09:29:07] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: If that
happens in the wild, you must use the power of the 'red dot'
L162[09:31:13] <Fluburtur> as in the
band?
L163[09:31:20] <Fluburtur> oh no I can't
read
L164[09:31:22] <Fluburtur> uh
L165[09:31:33] <Fluburtur> ok always keep
a laser pointer with me then
L166[09:31:39] <ve2dmn> Always
L167[09:32:39] <Fluburtur> I need to go
back there
L168[09:32:47] <Fluburtur> it's like a big
park with only felines
L169[09:33:01] <Fluburtur> and big
enclosures too so they are pretty happy
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L171[09:33:13] <BadRocketsCo> Howdy
L172[09:33:49] <Fluburtur> yo
L173[09:33:59] <Fluburtur> you are just
the person I need
L174[09:34:36] <BadRocketsCo> Fluburtur:
what's up?
L175[09:34:50] <ve2dmn> Writing
"Betchya woulda forgot that one." in technical
documentation is not a good idea, even if I understood the
meaning
L177[09:36:14] <Fluburtur> I was talking
with a friend and we decided to make a rocket poweres me 163
L178[09:36:54] <BadRocketsCo> Oooh,
nice.
L179[09:38:32] <BadRocketsCo> Fluburtur:
what's the uh...pole thing for?
L180[09:40:35] <Fluburtur> it is meant to
go in a me 163
L181[09:40:43] <Fluburtur> and the back is
too small for a rocket
L183[09:42:45] <BadRocketsCo> Oooh, so
that's the exhaust pipe?
L184[09:42:49] <Fluburtur> yeah
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L186[09:43:49] <BadInternetCo> Random wifi
network
L187[09:43:51] <BadInternetCo>
Anyway
L189[09:44:49] <BadInternetCo> Cool!
L190[09:45:09] <BadInternetCo> What will
you use to build the case?
L191[09:45:15] <Fluburtur> of the
engine?
L192[09:45:42] <Fluburtur> probably
aluminium
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L194[09:46:04] <Fluburtur> the casing of
the fuel chamber itself isn't too critical but the exhaust pipe and
nozzle will be
L195[09:46:27] <Fluburtur> but it will use
parafin and nitrous oxide so I gues it won't gt too hot
L196[09:49:06] <BadInternetCo>
Interesting, a non-rocket candy fuel
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L198[09:49:36] <Fluburtur> don't worry I
will build candy ones too
L199[09:50:18] <BadInternetCo> Fluburtur:
using aluminum could be a little dangerous though. You could turn
your engine into an frag grenade, should there be am
explosion
L200[09:50:42] <Fluburtur> that's what
testing is for
L201[09:51:45] <BadInternetCo> True
L202[09:52:26] <BadInternetCo> Have you
calculated the thrust and burn time yet?
L203[09:52:48] <Fluburtur> no
L204[09:52:51] <Fluburtur> I have done no
math
L205[09:53:00] <Fluburtur> and this model
is just there to look nice
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L212[10:13:01] <ve2dmn> I wonder what our
universe would look like with 'c = something else'
L213[10:13:24] <ve2dmn> Or if you changed
the mass of the proton to be 0.0000000001% lighter
L214[10:13:46] <madmerlyn> it would
probably look like nothing because that would be impossible
:O
L215[10:14:11] <ve2dmn> Or course it's
impossible. It's just a though experiement
L216[10:14:58] <ve2dmn> I also wonder if
these universal contants are real contants or if they are changing,
but looks constant 'to us'
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L218[10:16:28] <madmerlyn> "come look
at my computer, the intranet won't load"
L219[10:16:35] <madmerlyn> "watch
you'll walk into my office and it'll just work"
L220[10:16:36] <madmerlyn> yup.
L221[10:16:41] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: it's
much more interesting to think about then trying to debug a Java
App that is basically a blackbox to me
L222[10:17:01] <madmerlyn> downloadmoreram
dotcom should fix your java problem
L223[10:17:16] <madmerlyn> I download more
ram all the time
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L225[10:18:32] <APlayer> madmerlyn: I'd
appreciate if you could upload and mail me some of your RAM, I
could use some more
L226[10:18:48] <madmerlyn> so just saw a
new custom kerbal controller build on reddit with a good ible on it
too, I really need to get off my butt and do that
L227[10:18:50] <APlayer> Also, please
charge my internet connection, it seems to be running low
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L229[10:19:08] <madmerlyn> I bet there's a
site to download more internet too
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L231[10:20:10] <APlayer> Well, Kerbals do
it by slapping MOAR routers onto the rocket
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L233[10:21:45] <APlayer> Imagine doing a
google search from space at a few minutes speed of light delay,
though
L234[10:22:10] <madmerlyn> you know what
would be cool, if you could disable most of the HUD elements of the
UI and have instrumentation on a custom controller on your desk
instead
L235[10:22:38] <madmerlyn> have your
altitude counters, fuel gauges, etc. all on a panel and not on the
screen
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L237[10:23:09] <APlayer> F2 does the first
half of your request
L238[10:23:20] <madmerlyn> except F2
disables a lot of stuff doesn't it
L239[10:23:37] <madmerlyn> like can you
adjust throttle during screenshot mode?
L240[10:23:43] <APlayer> It disables all
but the main image
L241[10:23:53] <APlayer> I think you still
have control, though
L242[10:23:55] <Fluburtur> BadInternetCo
do you know how to calculatenozzles?
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L244[10:24:21] <madmerlyn> ideally I'd
like to just disable specific UI elements
L245[10:24:42] <madmerlyn> alternatively I
could do a KSRPC app with a flask server or something and have my
instrumentation on a second monitor, but that would be less
neat
L246[10:26:10] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn:
Telemachus?
L247[10:26:52] <madmerlyn> 1.1.3 appears
to be the last version Telemach supported
L248[10:27:26] <ve2dmn> sad
L249[10:28:21] <madmerlyn> well.. the
github page is as current as 1.2
L250[10:28:29] <madmerlyn> last release
posted last March
L251[10:28:40] <ve2dmn> sad
L252[10:29:09] <madmerlyn> oh right.. I
researched this a while back
L253[10:29:18] <madmerlyn> he's working on
a rebuild from scratch called Houston
L254[10:32:02] <Althego> static fire
when?
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L256[10:34:11] <APlayer> Last I saw it was
delayed without replacement date
L257[10:34:42] <madmerlyn> Apparently the
spaceport Rocket Labs built at Mahia is the first commercial
spaceport in the souther hemisphere
L258[10:35:03] <madmerlyn> and it has a
latitude of 39 degrees S
L259[10:36:02] <madmerlyn> Straya has 1
spaceport, and 2 retired spaceports, but all were military/govt.
facilities, not commercial
L260[10:36:11] <ve2dmn> Althego: fire is
never static. Is is always moving
L261[10:36:27] <Althego> but the rocket
doesnt, hence it is static
L262[10:37:27] <madmerlyn> TIL there's a
mobile launch platform in the Pacific ocean.
L263[10:37:27] <ve2dmn> also you want to
PREVENT static from starting fire. It killed the Hindenberg
L264[10:37:37] <Althego> there used to be
one
L266[10:38:02] <Althego> yes, that is the
one
L267[10:38:13] <madmerlyn> doesn't mention
being retired anywhere on the article
L268[10:38:26] <Althego> rhw platfoem may
be ok, the company failed
L269[10:39:28] <ve2dmn> Althego: then so
other company can come along, buy the thing for pennies on the
Dollar and do launches for cheap?
L270[10:39:55] <Althego> imagine if spacex
launched from the platform and laded on a drone ship :)
L272[10:41:36] <Althego> egh
L273[10:42:47] <Althego> you cant trust
americans to do anything right. maybe war, but even that only once
in a while
L274[10:44:59] <madmerlyn> bah to that
nationalist nonsense
L275[10:45:28] <madmerlyn> the Rocket Labs
launch was pushed back a whole day because some dumb sailors
wouldn't stay out of the range
L276[10:45:50] <ve2dmn> Humans
L277[10:46:35] <madmerlyn> "there's
some dumb guy with an American accent who keeps shouting on the
communications radio, what do you think he wants?" "bah
who cares, ocean's big, maintain course"
L278[10:48:33] <Gasher> so much for being
private in relying on governmentally funded personnel lol
L279[10:48:34] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: There's
a common joke circulating around the net about 1 captain refusing
to change course and shooting to the other guy that is is bigger
and more important and the he can't be bothered to change
course...
L280[10:49:04] <ve2dmn> "I am the
biggest ship of fleet X, YOU change course, Over"
L281[10:49:16] <ve2dmn> reponse: "I
am a lighthouse, Over"
L282[10:49:22] <madmerlyn> the lighthouse
joke? probably just urban myth
L283[10:49:57] <ve2dmn> yeah. But the same
game of chicken cause the Halifax explosion...
L284[10:50:02] <iamfishhead> Gasher: Given
that nobody really has built much in the way of private space
facilities ...
L285[10:50:16] <madmerlyn> Rocket Labs
did
L286[10:50:22] <madmerlyn> they built
their own spaceport in NZ
L287[10:50:47] <madmerlyn> manufactures
the oxidizer in situ, which I'm sure is standard for
spaceports
L288[10:51:05] <iamfishhead> I'm saying
this is a rather recent thing
L289[10:51:07] <Gasher> doesn't sound
exciting
L290[10:51:22] <Gasher> but ok, if it's
the first
L291[10:51:26] <madmerlyn> it is exciting,
they're going to offer low cost launches for small payload
customers
L292[10:51:35] <iamfishhead> If I said
"Private Spaceports" ten years ago, nobody would have
believed me
L293[10:51:37] <iamfishhead> It is
exciting
L294[10:51:43] <ve2dmn> What the
coordinates of the Rocket Labs launch site
L295[10:51:54] <madmerlyn> right now if
you have a small payload you rely on piggybacking on a larger
payload's launch, which has a lot of intrinsic problems
L297[10:52:27] <madmerlyn> 39.26S
177.86E
L298[10:52:39] <ve2dmn> that far
north?
L299[10:52:45] <madmerlyn> you mean
south
L300[10:53:06] <ve2dmn> I was expecting
closer to polar circle
L301[10:53:21] <madmerlyn> problem with
piggybacking on a larger launch is you have less determination on
the final orbit
L302[10:53:32] <madmerlyn> and, in partial
abort situations, primary payload takes priority
L303[10:53:52] <madmerlyn> couple
instances where a secondary payload was aborted
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L305[10:54:39] <madmerlyn> Rocket Labs
remedies that with a smaller rocket that is affordable so the small
customers can have more input on their orbital destination and not
fall victim to a partial abort
L306[10:55:42] <madmerlyn> I don't know
how/if payload insurance works, but I imagine it might even be
cheaper to insure a payload on an Electron than as a secondary
payload on a F9, due to the fact that its not a secondary
payload
L307[10:56:07] <Gasher> em, but smaller
rocket means smaller efficiency i think, no?
L308[10:56:23] <madmerlyn> not
really
L309[10:56:39] <madmerlyn> RL's last
launch had a gross weight of 10.5t
L310[10:56:40] <Gasher> i mean, until
certain size
L311[10:56:55] <madmerlyn> they're
estimating a cost for a launch being 4.9M
L312[10:57:28] <madmerlyn> that's up to
350kg to LEO or 250kg to the moon or a heliocentric orbit
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L314[10:58:38] <madmerlyn> not sure what
this efficiency question is, efficiency is determined by payload
fraction for the most part, and generally the bigger the rocket the
lower the payload fraction tends to be due to the need for
additional engine mass
L315[10:59:42] <madmerlyn> but here is
some math
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L317[11:00:14] <madmerlyn> F9's payload
fraction, total is 4%, that's including the upper stage's
mass
L318[11:00:25] <Gasher> wait, right
L319[11:00:32] <madmerlyn> Electron's
payload fraction is similar
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L322[11:03:14] <madmerlyn> ok, wiki says
electron is more conservative, 150 to 225kg to 500km SSO
L323[11:03:23] <madmerlyn> that still puts
its payload fraction around 3%
L324[11:03:43] <madmerlyn> at a cost that
is similar or less than piggybacking on a bigger launch
vehicle
L325[11:04:45] <madmerlyn> RL is planning
on putting a ME mission on the moon this quarter too
L326[11:05:06] <madmerlyn> ME has to land
before March 31st to win Lunar X prize I believe
L327[11:05:13] <madmerlyn> however ME
might not be ready, though RL seems to be
L328[11:05:29] <ve2dmn> RL is using a
different tech for the rocket body that is helping with weigh (or
so I heard)
L329[11:05:51] <madmerlyn> carbon
fiber
L330[11:05:57] <madmerlyn> the entire
rocket body is carbon fiber
L331[11:06:07] <ve2dmn> 3d printer Carbon
Fibre
L332[11:06:16] <ve2dmn> (sorry,
fiber*)
L333[11:06:21] <madmerlyn> they 3d print
most of the components, including the engine nozzle etc.
L335[11:07:02] <madmerlyn> it's kinda neat
seeing farm equipment and cows in the foreground of it lol
L336[11:07:20] <madmerlyn> would've been
better if they were sheep though
L337[11:07:25] <ve2dmn> If they can 'grow'
a single 'crystal' of Carbon Fiber, the strength of that thing
would be impressive
L338[11:08:17] <madmerlyn> depending on
their manufacturing facility, 3D printing might make construction a
bit faster too
L339[11:08:53] <madmerlyn> no need to roll
steel and rivet together and then test and inspect joints
L340[11:09:47] <madmerlyn> I don't know
all the details but I'd bet some of the only parts of the rocket
that aren't 3D printed might be the actual fuel tanks inside the
rocket body, IIRC it's a kerosene rocket
L341[11:10:01] <madmerlyn> and maybe some
of the fuel lines
L342[11:11:52] <ve2dmn> Imperfections in a
material (anything not perfect) brings down the strenght of the
material.
L343[11:12:38] <ve2dmn> If you could make
a single 'crystal' of perfect glass without any impurity it would
have between 100x to 100000x the strength
L344[11:13:13] <ve2dmn> now imagine carbon
fiber. For the same strength you could get MUCH lighter
material
L345[11:13:37] <ve2dmn> so even if they
can't make it perfect, any reductions in impurities will make the
thing better
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L349[11:20:52] <madmerlyn> so my typing
game, I think I want to do like a Missile Command style
background
L350[11:21:22] <madmerlyn> like have it
put words on the screen, and each word has a meteor crashing down,
and typing it shoots it out of the sky
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L357[11:33:53] <Kalpa> Oooh a typing
game
L358[11:33:55] <Kalpa> I want to
play
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L360[11:47:38] <madmerlyn> well as I
develop it I'm sure I'll put links for it here :P
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L363[11:49:51] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: The
Typing of the dead, Undead Asteroids edition
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L366[11:54:06] <Draconiator> I have a name
for it Merlyn. Mavis Beacon's Alien Defense
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L369[11:55:21] <Althego> i know about
gyoza, but what is a gyazo?
L370[11:56:02] <Draconiator> and I think
my old pocket organizer had a similar game...letters popped up
onscreen and you had to type the letter top clear it before the
screen filled up.
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L372[11:57:42] <Fluburtur> so I apparently
have no internet
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L374[11:59:47] <Draconiator> how are you
online?
L375[11:59:54] <Fluburtur> idk
L376[12:00:11] <Fluburtur> well I do have
internet but my browser says that I don't
L377[12:01:35] <ve2dmn> DNS. It's always
DNS
L378[12:02:48] <Fluburtur> well now I have
internet
L379[12:02:50] <Fluburtur> great
L380[12:02:59] <Fluburtur> but it is very
slow
L381[12:03:12] <Fluburtur> maybe because
my grandma has some guest over
L382[12:03:18] <Althego> change the dns to
google temporarily?
L383[12:03:49] <Althego> you can resolve a
site manually and see if the ip works but the address doesnt
L384[12:04:35] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn: looks like
the found a compromise.
L385[12:04:53] <Mat2ch> But I guess it'll
take some time to get everything up and running again for the
static fire test
L386[12:09:01] <Fluburtur> uh
L387[12:09:10] <Fluburtur> slow internet
is worse than no internet
L388[12:09:15] <Althego> static fire,
because they start the rocket with a plastic rod on a cat
L389[12:10:11] <Fluburtur> and each time I
do a speedtest the results are good but no
L390[12:12:15] <madmerlyn> yeah I can't
really use the trademark Mavis Beacon when making a game :P
L391[12:13:03] <madmerlyn> course another
option I could go, since I use the handle MadMerlyn pretty much
everywhere, "Merlyn's Typing Wizard" and have a little
cartoon wizard zapping the words as you type them
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L396[12:25:57] <kmath> YouTube -
Stellaris: Apocalypse - Orcs vs. Dwarves - Episode #1
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L398[12:44:08] <Draconiator> Also working
on a new lifter design, 2 tons to ...not sure what orbit I can
reach yet lol
L399[12:44:27] <Fluburtur> why is my
internet so bad
L400[12:44:33] <Fluburtur> I can't even
ply music on youtube
L401[12:46:58] <Draconiator> what speeds
does a speed test report?
L402[12:47:10] <Fluburtur> I can't even
load the speedtest
L403[12:47:14] <Fluburtur> but when I do
it says it's good
L404[12:47:17] <Fluburtur> but it is
lying
L405[12:48:56] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: I told
you it's DNS
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L407[12:49:55] <Fluburtur> but why would
it be bad now
L408[12:49:59] <Fluburtur> it was fine
before
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L410[12:53:03] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: it
would explain why some site works and others don't
L411[12:54:18] <Fluburtur> nothing works
and it does equally well
L412[12:54:21] <Fluburtur> or equally
bad
L413[12:55:46] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: maybe
try 172.217.2.164 ?
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L416[12:56:40] <Fluburtur> that loaded
just fine but I can't load anything from there
L417[12:56:54] <Althego> because it gives
you urls, not ips
L418[12:56:55] <ve2dmn> yeah, it's
DNS.
L419[12:57:06] <ve2dmn> That is a Google
IP
L420[12:57:07] <Althego> change your dns
temporarily in the connection settings to 8.8.8.8
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L422[12:59:03] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: you
have the choice between Google's DNS: 8.8.8.8 (or 8.8.4.4), Quad9
Service (9.9.9.9),Cisco's OpenDNS (208.67.222.222 ) or any other
third party DNS server
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L424[13:00:14] <Fluburtur> and where do I
do that
L425[13:00:46] <ve2dmn> I wish I could
send you the page to do it, but since you don't have DNS... the
link won't work
L426[13:02:16] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: you can
either change that setting in your router or change it on your
computer
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L428[13:04:36] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: I can
send you the instruction via PM if you want to
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L430[13:05:21] <Fluburtur> nah I will do
that when I have better internet
L431[13:06:01] <ve2dmn> It would fix your
Internet.... because right now it mean your provider's DNS is
down
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L433[13:06:20] <ve2dmn> (AKA call
'free.fr' or whoever your provider is)
L434[13:07:16] <madmerlyn> I still haven't
finished my attempt at playing tall and transitioning to wide at
end-game as a machine empire
L435[13:07:24] <madmerlyn> I'm at like
year 175 or so
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L437[13:07:40] <madmerlyn> think I've
burnt out my stellaris drive for a few weeks heh
L438[13:07:51] <ve2dmn> FE wakes up around
year 2400 (+/- 50 years)
L439[13:08:09] <madmerlyn> oh already been
dealing with an awakened empire
L440[13:08:15] <madmerlyn> survived 2 wars
with it so far
L441[13:08:16] <ve2dmn> end game crisis is
around 250-300 if I'm not mistaken
L442[13:08:30] <madmerlyn> neither war
resulted in any demands being enforced
L443[13:08:42] <madmerlyn> despite the
fact that both times i couldn't muster a large enough fleet to
defeat it
L444[13:08:58] <ve2dmn> End Game Crisis:
Expect several fleets of 400k trying to wipe the galaxy clean
L445[13:09:19] <madmerlyn> first war I
kept the warscore down by strategically liberating occupied planets
while the main armada was working on another system
L446[13:09:38] <madmerlyn> second war me
and my ally destroyed half of the fleet when the FE decided to back
down
L447[13:09:51] <JCB> ... lol, just come
across shadowzone's 'mistakes people make in ksp' video...
L448[13:09:57] <JCB> don't suppose people
have ideas of their own?
L449[13:10:02] <madmerlyn> it's been
around for a while though, waiting on decadence to nerf the hell
out of it
L450[13:11:06] <ve2dmn> JCB: No Ore tank.
Forget Monoprop. Parachute blocking door.
L451[13:11:17] <madmerlyn> so wife and I
are going to go meet a potential new pet on Thursday. I'm more of a
dog person, but I like cats too and we had to put my cat of 13
years down last year
L452[13:11:33] <ve2dmn> No solar panel in
the direction of the sun
L453[13:11:40] <madmerlyn> his name is
Yoda (I already have a dog named Obi-wan)
L454[13:12:14] <madmerlyn> if I forget to
orient a craft to the sun I just edit EC onto it
L455[13:12:36] <madmerlyn> because there's
no way to make it orient itself to the sun
L456[13:13:02] <madmerlyn> best option
would be kOS, but would only work if you only did physics warp and
never changed scenes away
L457[13:13:03] <JCB> the one I hate is..
crew door blocked..
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L459[13:13:30] <JCB> or at least it used
to be an issue in previous versions... you had to give mk1 crew
cabin quite a bit of clearance for the door to work
L460[13:14:12] <madmerlyn> I wish
hatches/doors were something that had multiple positions you could
select from
L461[13:14:25] <madmerlyn> or even a very
small surface mountable part
L462[13:14:51] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: I have
a surface mountable hatch... not sure from which mod
L463[13:15:11] <JCB> or a mk2 crew cabin
with a side hatch
L464[13:16:19] <JCB> I did some
experiments... tried to use a service bay to allow my crew to
enter/exit and still have a way to close things up didn't exactl
work too well
L465[13:16:25] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: you
went the 'Stellaris' route, while I did a detour in Anno 2205
L466[13:16:37] <madmerlyn> I'm pretty sure
I'm playing KSP tonight :P
L467[13:17:13] <madmerlyn> get back to my
newest career where so far the only thing a kerbal has done is a
suborbital flight, oh and well 3 of them managed to get stranded in
orbit presumably from other space organizations
L468[13:17:41] <JCB> downloaded 1.3.. yet
to touch it.
L469[13:18:00] <JCB> debating recording my
first play at it.. or something
L470[13:18:43] <ve2dmn> Verdict from
Anno2205: It's fine. Anno 2070 was somewhat better because it felt
less repetitive
L471[13:19:40] <madmerlyn> there's a new
Anno coming out set in the 17th century this year
L472[13:20:19] <ve2dmn> Anno 1800. All
Anno title have digits that add up to 9
L473[13:20:28] <JCB> speaking of 17th
century.. either of you een know of Ostriv?
L474[13:21:14] <madmerlyn> oh well then
it's 19th century, heh, coulda sworn it was supposed to be
earlier
L475[13:22:01] <madmerlyn> I don't think
I'll be touching any Annos though, I don't really respect Ubisoft
as a publisher
L476[13:22:36] <ve2dmn> I almost worked
for Ubisoft. They are a big employer in town
L477[13:23:28] <JCB> EA has a bit setup
over here near where I live
L478[13:23:48] <JCB> a few of my friends
did game testing for them, though seems to be more a short term
gig
L479[13:23:58] <ve2dmn> We have Ubisoft,
EA, WB games, Square-Enix and a few smaller ones
L480[13:24:27] <ve2dmn> They all get in
trouble for colluding to get salaries down
L481[13:25:08] <ve2dmn> (Basically HR from
Ubisoft, EA and one other firm knew each other and exchanged salary
info)
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L483[13:26:00] <JCB> A friend of mine does
his own game coding.. I've done some testing for him a while
back.
L484[13:26:40] <JCB> I've been wanting to
do my own coding/building.. being sick kind of killing things for
me. (kind of why I'm around today)
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L487[13:36:11] <ve2dmn> JCB: sick?
:(
L488[13:37:07] <Fluburtur> time for some
cities skylines
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L490[13:38:52] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur:
hopefully you get the viking gods as first soundtrack
L491[13:39:15] <JCB> ya.. got bad on teh
weekend. constant headaches
L493[13:39:29] <kmath> YouTube - Crusader
Kings II - Our Kingdom Will Fall
L494[13:41:12] <Fluburtur> uh the policies
tab doesn't open
L495[13:42:17] <ve2dmn> JCB: I have
frequent migraine. I share your pain
L496[13:43:14] <JCB> one on new years was
pretty bad... wasn't so much migraine, stupid flu/cold bugs or
something
L497[13:43:28] <JCB> I've been coughing
since this weekend.
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L500[13:44:28] <kmath> YouTube - Viking
Gods CK2 Viking Metal DLC
L501[13:44:30] <madmerlyn> so it just
dawned on me, in movies whenever they have to defuse a bomb and
"cut the blue wire" why don't the bomb-makers just make
all the wires the same color?
L503[13:44:59] <kmath> YouTube - Strongbad
- Technology
L504[13:45:02] <madmerlyn> I mean if
you're a movie villain and you want to blow the world up, why
bother with color coding your wires
L505[13:45:14] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: They
had that joke in Earthworm Jim cartoon. There was over 1000 red
wires.
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L508[13:45:36] <Guest50668> yo
L509[13:46:00] <Guest50668> Whats this
place
L510[13:46:07] <ve2dmn> Guest40951:
IRC
L511[13:46:13] <Guest50668> o
L512[13:46:18] <Guest50668> What do we
do
L513[13:46:39] <madmerlyn> Internet Relay
Chat, it's cutting edge technology compared to BBS
L514[13:46:39] <Draconiator> talk.
L515[13:46:47] <Guest50668> um
L516[13:46:55] <Draconiator> those lines
running up your screen are from intelligent AI
L517[13:47:09] <madmerlyn> intelligent AI
seems redundant Draco
L518[13:47:11] <ve2dmn> Draconiator: don't
scare the new people away
L519[13:47:16] <Guest50668> o
L520[13:47:43] <Guest50668> I dont see
lines
L521[13:47:51] <Guest50668> running up my
screen
L522[13:48:04] *
ve2dmn facepalm
L523[13:48:05] <madmerlyn> that's because
your brain squishes them together and recognizes them as runes, we
call them letters.
L524[13:48:19] <Guest50668> o
L525[13:48:22] <Guest50668> o
L526[13:48:22] <Guest50668> o
L527[13:48:26] <Guest50668> k
L528[13:48:31] <Guest50668> well bye
L529[13:48:35] <Guest50668> ...
L530[13:48:44] <madmerlyn> weird.
L531[13:48:50] <ve2dmn> kids
L532[13:49:34] <JCB> ..... adults...
sometimes
L533[13:49:44] <madmerlyn> I can be
childish if I want
L534[13:49:59] <JCB> some adults still
can't figure out tech..
L535[13:50:16] <madmerlyn> if I adopt Yoda
though I've gotta do some work around the house. I have 2
dog-related cat problems to address
L536[13:50:29] <madmerlyn> both are
related to Obiwan, the little stinker
L537[13:50:49] <madmerlyn> he likes to get
into litterboxes for snacks (gross) and he likes to eat the cat
food
L538[13:51:01] <halcyon_b> I'm assuming
Obiwan is a dog, and not, in this case, the Jedi
L539[13:51:06] <madmerlyn> yes
L540[13:51:16] <halcyon_b> I mean, I'm not
here to judge either way
L541[13:51:39] <madmerlyn> I have 2 dogs,
"Princess Peach", we call her Peaches, and "Obi-wan
De-doge", we call him Obi
L542[13:51:40] <halcyon_b> times got hard
after Order 66
L543[13:52:44] <madmerlyn> and my eldest
pet, Nisei, had to be put to sleep last year, but family is ready
for a new feline, and local shelter has a pretty cute guy named
Yoda
L544[13:53:39] <madmerlyn> my girls will
absolutely hate the name Yoda too haha, they apparently don't like
me giving the animals pop culture names
L545[13:54:14] <madmerlyn> he's all white,
so they might want to call him Snow, I told them if they did his
name would actually be Jon Snow, and I would say "You know
nothing Jon Snow!" to him frequently
L546[13:55:08] <ve2dmn> The real Jon Snow
was actually right from the start
L547[13:55:26] <ve2dmn> but no one
believed him at the beginning
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L549[13:55:54] <JCB> I knew someone who
named their fennec Yoda..
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L551[13:56:47] <madmerlyn> "the real
Jon Snow" ????
L553[13:57:50] <ve2dmn> AKA the pump of
broad street, AKA 1854 Broad Street cholera outbreak
L554[13:58:04] <ve2dmn> "John Snow's
endeavor to find the cause of the transmission of cholera caused
him to unknowingly create a double-blind experiment."
L555[13:58:39] <ve2dmn> The first guy to
disprove the idea of 'the miasma'
L556[13:59:03] <ve2dmn> Cholera was not in
the air, it was in the water of that pump
L557[14:00:12] <madmerlyn> I have an
excuse if we adopt this guy though, I didn't name him Yoda :P
L558[14:00:44] <madmerlyn> I think the cat
food issue I'll just make an elevated place for kitty to eat so Obi
can't get at it, but the litter box will be another challenge
L559[14:01:49] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: extra
credit has an Extra History bit on Jon Snow.
L560[14:02:06] <madmerlyn> wiki says it's
John Snow ;)
L561[14:03:24] <sandbox_> too many people
with the same name
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L565[14:06:24] <madmerlyn> 2002? geocities
in 2002? That's like discovering Facebook in 2018 :P
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L567[14:07:19] <ve2dmn> Does it have Blink
tags, midi music and a webring?
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L569[14:07:43] <Draconiator> lol
L570[14:07:48] <BadRocketsCo> Fluburtur:
hey dude. Sorry, my phone ran out of juice earlier
L571[14:07:54] <Draconiator> I never
finidhed it.
L572[14:08:00] <Draconiator>
*finished
L573[14:08:28] <Fluburtur> lel
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L575[14:09:13] <Fluburtur> so, do you
think you could help with the rocket engine?
L576[14:11:50] <ve2dmn> Draconiator: it's
like that April 1st AI from Google
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L581[14:21:13] <BadRocketsCo> Fluburtur:
not sure. I've never looked into engines like that, neither did I
get very far with calculations.
L582[14:21:30] <BadRocketsCo> But I'll see
what I can dig out, it could be fun
L583[14:21:35] <Fluburtur> alright
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L585[14:21:59] <spaceballs> hmm I haven't
played in forever, is there a predominant life support mod? trying
to read up on the differences
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L587[14:22:13] <madmerlyn> I prefer
USI-LS
L588[14:23:14] <madmerlyn> complex enough
to add difficulty to self-sustaining bases, simple enough that you
can just shove a container full of supplies for a long mission if
you don't want to calculate optimal conversions
L589[14:23:25] <BadRocketsCo> USI is nice,
yeah.
L590[14:23:52] <BadRocketsCo> TAC is
pretty complicated but more realistic, if you're into that.
L591[14:24:15] <BadRocketsCo> ^Err, imho
that is
L592[14:25:02] <Fluburtur> BadRocketsCo my
main concern would be to get the right nozzle geometry
L593[14:25:05] <madmerlyn> RoverDude says
he went simplified supplies because A) more in line with KSP as a
whole, and B) managing food, water, and oxygen would effectively be
the same as managing supplies, since all would have fixed
consumption rates, it would just be having 3 times as many
containers and converters
L594[14:25:13] <Fluburtur> but for that I
need to know the chamber presure I guess
L595[14:25:25] <Fluburtur> and I need to
find out if the nozzle tube will create too much losses
L596[14:26:28] <BadRocketsCo> Yup. It's a
complicated thing to build.
L597[14:26:38] <BadRocketsCo> But would be
cool to figure it out
L598[14:26:44] <spaceballs> ah ckan is
such an awesome thing to have
L599[14:27:01] <Fluburtur> I guess we can
estimate the presure and make a test nozzle
L600[14:27:06] <Fluburtur> then refine
stuff
L601[14:27:25] <BadRocketsCo> Or, of
course, you could just build the engine and hope it puts out enough
thrust, heh.
L602[14:27:42] <Fluburtur> well I want to
power a plane with it
L603[14:27:50] <Fluburtur> so I need to
optimise it
L604[14:28:14] <BadRocketsCo> Yup. I am
guessing you want it to be refuelable?
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L606[14:28:28] <Fluburtur> yeah but that
part should be easy
L607[14:28:54] <Fluburtur> oxy will be
nitrous oxide sparklets and fuel will be parafin help in toilet
paper or something
L608[14:31:37] <BadRocketsCo> Hmm,
okay.
L609[14:31:49] <BadRocketsCo> Where would
you get the fuels from?
L610[14:31:55] <Fluburtur> amazon
L611[14:32:02] <BadRocketsCo> Oh,
okay.
L612[14:32:40] <Fluburtur> it's pretty
cheap there
L613[14:32:51] <Fluburtur> 20€ for like 24
bottles of nitrous oxide
L614[14:33:16] <Fluburtur> the same size
as the co2 bottles used in airsoft so not sure how much gaz
inside
L615[14:36:10] <BadRocketsCo> Nice.
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L619[14:40:03] <JCB> madmerlyn pluto I'm
guessing? I imagine the round trip time on that conversation took a
few days
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L621[14:40:53] <madmerlyn> lol
L622[14:42:01] <madmerlyn> lol "8
toasts to give for drinking" #2 'To our wives and
girlfriends....May they never meet.'
L623[14:42:04] <UmbralRaptor> Dear Pluto:
You'll survive. -- Ceres
L624[14:42:10] <UmbralRaptor> uh
L625[14:42:30] <madmerlyn> wait I have a
meme for Pluto's survival
L626[14:42:32] <UmbralRaptor> Something
something poly…
L627[14:42:56] <JCB> it'll survive, I'm
sure. It had a heart on it
L628[14:43:53] <ve2dmn> JCB: but it's an
icy cold one
L629[14:44:24] <UmbralRaptor> Pluto never
shows its heart to Charon.
L631[14:46:15] <ve2dmn> I wonder if you
could hover 'in place' if you were at the barycenter between Pluto
and Charon
L632[14:46:43] <JCB> you'd have to do some
station keeping, but ya
L633[14:47:02] <ve2dmn> how far is it from
Pluto?
L634[14:47:02] <madmerlyn> wouldn't you
still be orbiting in a sense though?
L635[14:47:06] <JCB> think they said it
was like trying to balance on a needle
L637[14:47:53] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn:
everything would orbit around you
L638[14:48:00] <JCB> ve2dmn everything out
there is icy cold...
L639[14:49:25] <JCB> speaking of cold and
hot.. wonder how effective a steam rocket/thruster would be in
space
L640[14:49:48] <madmerlyn> what.. like
boiling water?
L641[14:49:57] <madmerlyn> very low
impulse I'd imagine
L642[14:50:12] <madmerlyn> probably
slightly better than just throwing rockets out the airlock
L643[14:50:17] <madmerlyn> rocks*
L644[14:50:33] <EricPoehlsen> hmm you can
get some pretty high pressure from superheated steam
L645[14:51:09] <JCB> I know.. velocity and
mass are major factors
L646[14:51:14] <madmerlyn> I don't think
the exit velocity would be anywhere near a controlled
explosion
L647[14:51:19] <UmbralRaptor> Molecular
weight is quite good, but the low temperature trashes your
Isp.
L648[14:51:23] <ve2dmn> JCB: you could
probably find better use from the fact that a good 'cold source'
for a 'thermodynamic cycle'
L649[14:51:45] <spaceballs> hmm the g
force tolerance difficulty setting is a multiplier? is 1
"realistic" or does that mean they can only stand 1
g?
L650[14:51:59] <UmbralRaptor> I randomly
want to say that H2O2 ? H2O+O2 is ~160 s.
L651[14:52:34] <JCB> heh.. turn water into
a high speed plasma :P
L652[14:52:36] <madmerlyn> what is h202's
street name?
L653[14:52:36] <UmbralRaptor> Uh, I don't
have KSP in front of me, is it 1 on easy or medium?
L654[14:52:51] <spaceballs> it's not on at
all even on hard unless you switch it on
L655[14:52:54] <UmbralRaptor> madmerlyn:
hydrogen peroxide
L656[14:53:07] <UmbralRaptor> Uh, bot sure
then.
L657[14:53:10] <EricPoehlsen> g-force
tolerance is okay - making it higher then 1 - you won't be able to
succeed in G-Force Missions
L658[14:53:11] <UmbralRaptor> *not
L659[14:53:33] <spaceballs> ah so leave it
at 1 then?
L662[14:55:34] *
UmbralRaptor amused.
L663[14:55:50] <EricPoehlsen> ISP of 195+
s for nuclear powered concepts
L664[14:56:43] <EricPoehlsen> I will have
to do some math for a engine mod that I will be doing as part of
some sci-fi based concept
L665[14:56:48] <madmerlyn> but water has
much higher molecular weight than pure hydrogen
L666[14:57:18] <madmerlyn> there is no
scenario where heating water would be more efficient than heating
liquid hydrogen, other than the fact that water requires less
tankage to be stable
L667[14:57:41] <JCB> guess it would depend
on how much you have to take
L668[14:57:50] <JCB> large amounts, more
complex tankage
L669[14:57:55] <madmerlyn> but on the
other side of it, water is a lot heavier
L670[14:58:05] <madmerlyn> so you could
probably do better with smaller liquid hydrogen tanks
L671[14:58:07] <UmbralRaptor> NSWR!
L672[14:58:26] <Kalpa> Not Safe Work
Reactor
L673[14:58:29] <EricPoehlsen> one part of
it will be a sublight drive using fusion plasma that is accelerated
in a cyclotron and exhausted at comewhere around 80-90%c
L674[14:58:47] <JCB> watch you don't get
in the way of the blast. :P
L675[14:58:48] <UmbralRaptor> Kalpa: I
keep on thinking that also.
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L677[14:59:01] <madmerlyn> .8 to .9c? we
don't have any designs that can do that
L678[14:59:42] <UmbralRaptor> madmerlyn:
cyclotron. Not sure what the power efficiency is like.
L679[15:00:10] <UmbralRaptor> Think alpha
particles flying out at ~4 GeV
L680[15:00:25] <EricPoehlsen> It is based
on a sci-fi setting I am doing with some friends and I'll try to
implement the concepts in KSP for fun (but keeping it balanced with
Interstellar Extended - at least that is the plan
L681[15:00:40] <madmerlyn> but that thing
was 60inches for accelerating small particles, the mass would be so
negligible you'd have virtually no thrust
L682[15:00:44] <EricPoehlsen> but probably
not something for a player who wants to play RSS RO
L683[15:01:41] <EricPoehlsen> yet that is
a idea that is not for today or tomorrow - I have to do some more
light modding first
L685[15:06:02] <ve2dmn> If only we could
make an engine powered by flame war, dank meme and people
complaining online... I'm sure we go up to 0.9999c with it
L686[15:06:35] <EricPoehlsen> ;)
L687[15:07:41] <EricPoehlsen> Well I have
a joke in mind - it would break several community rules so it will
remain where it is
L688[15:09:01] <APlayer> What about some
jokes that don't break rules?
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L690[15:09:53] <madmerlyn> like when
someone typos "The Clone Wars" by writing "The Cone
Wars" on reddit and prompts bored wizards to make a meme of
it?
https://i.imgur.com/Dk6rzP6.png
L691[15:10:12] <EricPoehlsen> Jebediah
took care of the greenhouse and watered the plants
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L696[15:13:07] <Fluburtur> so I changed
the dns settings and it worked
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L698[15:17:35] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: told
you :P
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L700[15:23:16] <APlayer> See you
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L704[15:27:10] <ve2dmn> well, according to
the weather I'm going to be stuck inside with the fireplace
tonight
L705[15:29:14] <ve2dmn> In an old chatroom
I would stream my fireplace using a cheap webcam...
L706[15:29:29] <JCB> ugh.. even in blanket
I'm still getting cold
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Psyche mission.
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L715[15:53:52] <UmbralRaptor> (SPT-140
hall effect thruster. Isp seems to typically be ~1500 s, though in
the ideal case it could be pushed to almost 2000 s)
L716[15:55:01] <UmbralRaptor> Call it 250
mN.
L717[15:56:13] <UmbralRaptor> Ah, NSTARs
like on Dawn may do 3000+ s, but only 90-odd mN.
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L721[16:02:02] <madmerlyn> ve2dmn I knew I
had played a game that shoots ships by typing,
http://zty.pe
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L724[16:03:53] <UmbralRaptor> "The
first two flight units will be available in early 2019."
L725[16:03:56] <UmbralRaptor> …
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L728[16:04:33] <UmbralRaptor> And
apparently a prototype had completed 48000 hours of testing by
2010.
L729[16:04:42] <madmerlyn> Umbral the last
x-37b mission was to test a HE thruster
L730[16:05:01] <madmerlyn> not the one
that's been up there for over 190 days, but the one before that
:P
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L732[16:14:49] <UmbralRaptor> madmerlyn:
Just so we're clear, the SPT-140 is a derivative of the SPT-100,
and appears to be part of a family of thrusters that the Russians
had used extensively by 1994. o_O
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L735[16:22:30] <UmbralRaptor> Electric
propulsion: where there are amazing test designs, but actually
flown hardware isn't that different from when Gorbachev was in
power. Maybe even Andropov.
L736[16:24:47] <madmerlyn> the x-37b took
one to space for like a year
L737[16:37:06] <UmbralRaptor> Yay, I
guess.
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L744[16:42:59] <madmerlyn> so Kalypso is
making a TTD-esque game called Railway Empire
L745[16:43:34] <KrazyKrl> unlike stuff
like Sid Meyer's Railroads, or Factorio?
L746[16:44:10] <KrazyKrl> as long as you
can lose granularity, but gain scalability; i'd be happy.
L747[16:44:11] <madmerlyn> Factorio you
place every building yourself, and isn't it mostly conveyor
belts?
L748[16:44:30] <madmerlyn> it looks a lot
like TTD in that you build the rails and provide the goods, and the
cities grow on their own
L749[16:45:10] <madmerlyn> unlike a game
like Cities where on top of building rails, roads, etc. you also
have to plan the city itself
L750[16:45:12] <KrazyKrl> You can use
ghost placement, and get robots to actually build the items. The
idea in factorio is that you automate everything, so you
practically feed the machine.
L751[16:45:49] <KrazyKrl> there are some
addons for openTTD that let you tweak city growth factors along
with the industries.
L752[16:46:19] <KrazyKrl> Pretty much if
it's extensible, people have messed with it.
L753[16:46:31] <madmerlyn> Kalypso are the
ones that made all the Tropico games, so it could be really well
done
L754[16:47:03] <madmerlyn> plus they
embraced linux support shortly after Steam went native, which is
always a plus in my book
L755[16:47:34] <madmerlyn> probably one of
the biggest devs to full on support it with all of their new
releases
L756[16:47:44] <madmerlyn> err
publisher
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L761[17:33:21] <Mathuin> Hrm. What does
positionat(vessel, ut):direction represent? Is it pointing at the
center of the body the vessel is orbiting, from the location in
orbit?
L762[17:33:43] <ve2dmn> Mathuin: position
from the Solar-prime vextor
L763[17:33:55] <ve2dmn> (I think)
L764[17:34:11] <Mathuin> I'm having
trouble figuring out when in my orbit I'll be closest to a
particular latitude.
L765[17:34:24] <Mathuin> I'd hoped using
positionat() would help, but right now I don't see how it's
done.
L766[17:34:40] <Mathuin> This is after I
realized that orbitables have geoposition but orbits don't
L767[17:35:29] <Mathuin> And the guy
helping me in Reddit isn't super helpful. :-(
L768[17:35:31] <ve2dmn> SET spot to
SHIP:GEOPOSITION.
L770[17:36:23] <Mathuin> That'll work for
_now_
L771[17:36:35] <Mathuin> But I'm trying to
place a maneuver node in the future
L772[17:36:53] <Mathuin> and orbitat(ship,
ut) does not have geoposition :-(
L773[17:37:04] <ve2dmn> nope.
L774[17:37:25] <ve2dmn> I gave up very
early on Geopositions and use vectors for everything
L775[17:40:22] <Mathuin> So, find the
vector with a zero dot product with the body's north vector, and if
it's before the ascending node it's below the equator and thus as
close to the south pole as I am getting?
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L777[17:46:51] <Mathuin> Hrm. Bound
variables tells me there's something called
"SHIP:NORTH".
L778[17:47:27] <Mathuin> And that keeps
changing. Sigh.
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L782[17:56:53] <ve2dmn> Mathuin: you have
stumble upon my biggest problems :D
L783[17:57:45] <ve2dmn> To get the UP
vector on an orbit, I took a Cross product of Velocity and position
(from the center of body)
L784[17:59:23] <ve2dmn> That give you the
Up vector for the plane the ship is in. You know this plane
intersect the equator
L785[18:00:43] <ve2dmn> A cross product of
the ship UP plane Vector and the Body UP vector will give you a
vector that follow this intersection
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L787[18:02:34] <ve2dmn> After that you can
either find the True Anomaly of that vector in your orbit.... or
you could just try futur positions every sec until you are close
enough to it
L788[18:02:59] <ve2dmn> btw, that vector
might be the accending OR decending node... one is just - the
other
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L791[18:08:29] <transitbiker> bwoop
L792[18:08:39] <Fluburtur> bwoop
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L794[18:09:09] <transitbiker> yo, you
interested in helping me finish out my guardian farm?
L795[18:09:26] <transitbiker> i need to
finish the spawn chamber partitions and roof
L796[18:09:37] <transitbiker> as well as
the drop collection system
L797[18:09:57] <Fluburtur> eh
L798[18:10:02] <transitbiker> spawn
chamber needs signs placed too, i think
L799[18:10:07] <Fluburtur> not much into
minecraft those times
L800[18:10:24] <transitbiker> finally got
your flow going with the RC stuff??
L801[18:11:07] <Fluburtur> what do you
mean?
L802[18:11:18] <transitbiker> building
things on a regular basis?
L803[18:11:34] <Fluburtur> nah
L804[18:11:44] <Fluburtur> I mean I build
stuff every few weeks sometimes
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L806[18:11:55] <Fluburtur> but im just not
that much interested in minecraft
L807[18:13:10] <transitbiker> i see i see,
so what are you up to these day anyway?
L808[18:13:42] <Fluburtur> mostly war
thunder and trying to get my canadair working properly
L809[18:14:07] <transitbiker> war
thunder?
L810[18:14:13] <Fluburtur> yeah
L811[18:14:15] <Fluburtur> the game
L812[18:14:44] <transitbiker> what's that
all about?
L813[18:14:53] <transitbiker> is it era
specific?
L814[18:14:56] <Fluburtur> WWII
planes
L815[18:15:11] <Fluburtur> well before
WWII to after
L816[18:15:21] <Fluburtur> so like 30s to
late 40s
L817[18:15:23] <transitbiker> ww2 has lots
of variety in aircraft design
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L819[18:15:30] <transitbiker> now days not
so much
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L821[18:17:32] <transitbiker> do you know
the plane from indiana jones and the ark?
L822[18:17:48] <Fluburtur> the sort of
flying wing?
L823[18:17:53] <transitbiker> yeah
L824[18:17:58] <Fluburtur> yeah
kinda
L825[18:18:02] <transitbiker> was that a
real plane or just a prop idea?
L826[18:18:13] <Fluburtur> I don't
remember
L827[18:18:33] <transitbiker> i was
wondering how the landing gear worked, because it looked liek it
just stuck out there
L828[18:18:57] <Fluburtur> I think it was
based on a real one
L829[18:19:46] <transitbiker> BV-38
L830[18:19:57] <transitbiker> fictional
but based on a real design maybe
L831[18:20:00] <transitbiker> lemme
loos
L832[18:20:03] <transitbiker> looks
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L834[18:22:27] <transitbiker> based on the
Horten Ho 229 concept, it seems
L835[18:29:39] <transitbiker> any upcoming
projects, or still debugging the canadair?
L836[18:31:34] <Fluburtur> well first I
wantt o get my canadair flying
L837[18:31:40] <Fluburtur> then learn to
fly my heli
L838[18:31:44] <Fluburtur> then idk more
plane
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L840[18:33:11] <transitbiker> i sees
:D
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L843[18:40:30] <transitbiker> mmm,
pizza
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L847[18:49:56] <transitbiker> finally put
together an engine pod that i can use to fire off as a
missile
L849[18:50:30] <transitbiker> got into
space, but i think a different aproach will be needed for orbital
nonsense
L850[18:50:34] <Mathuin> ve2dmn: I *think*
eta:descendingnode and eta:ascending node will help us figure out
which of AN and DN is next -- that might be useful.
L851[18:51:07] <transitbiker> iron keg
man
L852[18:51:43] <transitbiker> reminds me -
local NFL team going to the super bowl
L853[18:52:21] <transitbiker> people were
lighting off fireworks and honking horns and stuff for like an
hour
L854[18:52:31] <transitbiker> pennsyltucky
ftw
L855[18:52:40] <Mathuin> Do you live in
the town that crisco'ed its light poles to minimize climbing?
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L857[18:52:49] <transitbiker> did not hear
of that one
L858[18:52:54] <Alanonzander> so it's
going to be east coast vs East coast.
L859[18:53:02] <transitbiker> not
really
L862[18:53:13] <transitbiker> new england
vs the normal east coast
L864[18:53:26] <kmath> YouTube - Rocket
Lab - Still Testing Launch Attempt "I NEVER WANT TO HOLD
AGAIN"
L865[18:53:39] <madmerlyn> Philadelphia
isn't really east coast
L866[18:53:56] <transitbiker> eat coast
generally stops at the NY/VT and NY/CT state lines
L867[18:54:00] <transitbiker> uhm
L868[18:54:16] <madmerlyn> Philly
literally has the state of New Jersey between it and the
coast
L869[18:54:17] <Mathuin> New England is
all points northeast of New York.
L870[18:54:24] <transitbiker> its
literally an hour to the ocean m8
L871[18:54:27] <Mathuin> CT MA RI VT NH
ME
L872[18:54:30] <Mathuin> Source: me,
native
L873[18:54:37] <transitbiker> yes
L874[18:54:50] <madmerlyn> it's an hour..
across an entire state
L875[18:54:57] <transitbiker> dude
L876[18:55:05] <Mathuin> Hey, 25min to
cross RI. You could do a straight-line marathon across it
L877[18:55:09] <transitbiker> philadlephia
is a deep water port
L878[18:55:31] <madmerlyn> Philly has a
river, not coast
L879[18:55:43] <transitbiker> its not a
beach state, but its definitely est coast holy cow
L880[18:55:57] <madmerlyn> it's not a
coastal state at all
L881[18:56:04] <madmerlyn> Pennsylvania
that is
L882[18:56:09] <Mathuin> Pennsylvania
doesn't really have a coastline, does it?
L883[18:56:12] <transitbiker> ok, well
everyone here disagrees
L884[18:56:17] <madmerlyn> no, New Jersey
is the coastline
L885[18:56:24] <Draconiator> AMD Athlon
2X4 3.2GHZ, 4GB RAM GeForce GT6100 = POTATOMACHINE
L886[18:56:28] <madmerlyn> literally the
eastern border of Pennsylvania is Jersey
L887[18:56:44] <Draconiator> 610
rather
L888[18:56:47] <Mathuin> They've got Lake
Erie, and some other water features
L889[18:57:01] <madmerlyn> Jersey and New
York make up the entire eastern border of Pennsylvania
L890[18:57:07] <transitbiker> delaware
river is deep water till bristol, they have lift bridges to
accommodate cargo ships
L891[18:57:23] <transitbiker> you're being
to literal
L892[18:57:26] <transitbiker>
anyways
L893[18:57:30] <madmerlyn> you know cargo
ships go down the Mississippi river too?
L894[18:57:50] <transitbiker> the social
culture of where the patrios play and the SEPA region is very
different
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L897[18:58:06] <transitbiker> for one the
climate is colder and slighty wetter up there
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L901[18:58:45] <madmerlyn> don't you live
in France?
L902[18:58:56] <transitbiker> me?
L903[18:59:08] <madmerlyn> could've sworn
you were french
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L905[18:59:12] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur is from
france
L906[18:59:15] <Fluburtur> lel
L907[18:59:24] <madmerlyn> yes, I know
Flub is
L908[18:59:26] <transitbiker> never been
east of puerto rico m8
L909[18:59:31] <Fluburtur> yeah I think im
one of the rare french guys here
L910[18:59:54] <transitbiker> ze rare
french, and even more rare, ze RC model builder
L911[19:00:16] <madmerlyn> we doing bad
german impressions now
L912[19:00:32] <transitbiker> german?
no
L913[19:00:34] <ve2dmn> I need a name for
a Anno 2205 Coporation that mines H3 on the moon and uses it for
fusion... any ides?
L914[19:01:01] <transitbiker> anyway
L915[19:01:35] <Azander> "Noble
Extraction Co."
L916[19:01:36] <madmerlyn> Lunar Hydrogen
Corp.
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L918[19:01:51] <ve2dmn> I was thinking
'Moon power' but it sound too... anime
L919[19:02:15] <Azander> Lunar
Energetics
L920[19:02:19] <legion> Lunar Cube
Company.
L921[19:02:34] <Mathuin> SelHeCo
L922[19:02:43] <UmbralRaptor> Selenium
Heavy Industries
L923[19:02:56] <UmbralRaptor>
*Selenian
L924[19:03:34] <transitbiker> i'm sure the
local transit agency will screw up the celebratory event i they do
win
L925[19:03:45] <ve2dmn> Moonshine?
L926[19:03:52] <transitbiker> if*
L927[19:04:01] <UmbralRaptor> I was hoping
for a pun, but He-3 is light helium…
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L929[19:04:24] <transitbiker> extra leaky
from containment vessels?
L930[19:04:28] <Azander> Helium is a noble
gas too :P
L931[19:05:15] <ve2dmn> Trying for a pun
between Moonlight, Moonshine, MoonShot and He3
L932[19:05:36] <madmerlyn> he said H3, I
assumed that was a weird hydrogen isotope like Dueterium
L933[19:05:40] <madmerlyn> not He
L934[19:05:41] <transitbiker> i see your
noble gas and raise you a train station
L936[19:05:51] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: that's
mine in the Artic in the game
L937[19:06:18] <ve2dmn> Why the Artic?
Because reasons, I guess
L938[19:06:28] <UmbralRaptor> madmerlyn:
initially, yes. But tritium has a half-life of only ~12 years. It's
helium that's in the regolith.
L939[19:07:03] <madmerlyn> well if he had
said He it would've made more sense to me heh
L940[19:07:13] <UmbralRaptor> Artemis
Power and Light?
L941[19:07:24] <Azander> Lighter than ore
energetics
L942[19:08:10] <UmbralRaptor> (they also
sell laser rifles for deer hunting)
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L944[19:12:04] <Azander> Hydro &
Helium Habilitation
L945[19:12:13] <Azander> Company Logo
H3
L946[19:22:00] <JCB> Noble station.. first
thing I thought was something from Halo franchise..
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L950[19:24:53] <transitbiker> just built a
"jetissile"
L951[19:24:59] <transitbiker> air
breathing missile :D
L952[19:25:13] <Fluburtur> well a lot of
modern missiles are ramjets
L953[19:26:13] <transitbiker> -looks for
screenshot-
L955[19:28:48] <transitbiker> dats mine
:D
L956[19:29:18] <Fluburtur> nice
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L958[19:30:54] <transitbiker> out past old
airfield then back
L959[19:30:56] <madmerlyn> so my cheap
ergo keyboard at work that I've had for like 10 years is probably
better than this microsoft one I've had just as long
L960[19:31:22] <madmerlyn> doing zty.pe on
it and I'm clearly getting some issues where the keyboard isn't
registering keystrokes because I'm pressing too many keys too
quickly
L961[19:33:45] <JCB> monster lawn dart
:P
L962[19:34:09] <transitbiker> yis
L963[19:34:23] <transitbiker> i have
another concept that is more like a javelin
L964[19:34:43] <transitbiker> let me build
it
L965[19:34:50] <JCB> I've sorta done stuff
like cruise missile.. but into space
L967[19:41:12] <transitbiker> well, so
much for that idea, my girlfriend wanted to go
L968[19:41:30] *
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L970[19:46:23] *
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L971[19:53:31] <transitbiker> mach number
at 500 m/s at 10km?
L972[19:59:38] <transitbiker> the jettisle
2 has been unleashed
L973[19:59:46] <transitbiker> lets see if
it cab fly
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L977[20:02:47] <transitbiker> that design
doesnt work, too heavy
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L979[20:08:12] <TheKosmonaut> One time I
got tickets to West Side story
L980[20:08:19] <transitbiker> any
good?
L981[20:08:33] <TheKosmonaut> And in this
theater, a company bought a bunch of seats for their
employees
L982[20:08:47] <transitbiker> mhm
L983[20:08:54] <TheKosmonaut> So I had
nosebleeds and the usher came and told me to sit in the 2nd row at
the front area
L984[20:08:58] <TheKosmonaut> Was
great.
L985[20:09:24] <transitbiker> woah
L986[20:09:27] <transitbiker> nice
L987[20:09:55] <TheKosmonaut> WSS is
basically Romeo&Juliet so it's alright. These performances at
The Esplanade in Singapore sre really good and only get better as
they get more clout. They were the cast from Broadway
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L989[20:10:31] <TheKosmonaut> Another time
I saw a musical set to Queen's music. That was really fun.
L990[20:11:07] <TheKosmonaut> I had an
insider so I got to sit with the reserves in the front again for
free. But I had to be very cheerful
L991[20:11:20] <TheKosmonaut> That was
easy because oh my God they were amazing
L992[20:13:41] <TheKosmonaut> One of my
favorite lines was when this team realized they didn't have any
instruments, so they were going to sing acapella. "we need to
go acapella!" "No!" "We can only sing acapella
when it's necessary" "acapella is never necessary
..." He then wrote "PENTATONIX" On a board that he
had next to him. I think it was improvised but I thought it was
hilarious.
L993[20:15:07] <transitbiker> nice
L994[20:15:16] <transitbiker> lucky
guy
L995[20:15:30] <transitbiker> i never
really get that kinda luck heh
L996[20:15:32] <TheKosmonaut> For my
parent's tenth anniversary, they went to NYC. I still jealous
because they saw Glengarry Glenn Ross on Broadway with Alan Alda
staring
L997[20:16:23] <transitbiker> i saw
pentatonix at some fairgrounds in the pouring rain, no umbrellas
allowed
L998[20:16:41] <transitbiker> show was
incredible tho
L999[20:17:18] <TheKosmonaut> I can't
stand them. It's not that I think they're bad. And their
"unplugged" stuff is good. I just find a lot of their
stuff overproduced
L1000[20:17:51] <Azander> A lot of gourps
are overproduced these days :(
L1001[20:18:15] <transitbiker> well, they
did "light in the hallway" with no amplification,
everyone in the place was stone silent but them singing, was so
cool
L1002[20:19:19] <transitbiker> was avi's
last performance with them on that tour
L1003[20:19:29] <transitbiker> so yeah we
had to go
L1004[20:22:10] <transitbiker> well, i
went from 1 wheasly to 5 juno
L1005[20:22:17] <transitbiker> i think i
could up the fuel a bit
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L1007[20:23:43] <TheKosmonaut> I need to
get around to completing my mission
L1008[20:23:52] <TheKosmonaut> Supposed
to land a Rover at a Duna pole
L1009[20:24:11] <transitbiker> right now
it has 4 mark 0 tanks for the junos to latch onto, empty - filled
those, and that cone hsaped smaller tank, was empty - filled
that
L1010[20:24:30] <transitbiker> the
precooler, which was the only tank used, now will be the last to
empty
L1011[20:24:33] <TheKosmonaut> Duna
Orbit, and Polar Expedition Rover.
L1012[20:24:42] <TheKosmonaut> Or
DOPE-Rover
L1013[20:25:34] <transitbiker> heh
nice
L1014[20:26:04] <transitbiker> well, it
seems that the combination of filled tanks that were empty and 5
juno is a good one
L1015[20:26:16] <transitbiker> 500
m/s
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L1020[20:49:00] <JCB> heh.. stupid little
experiment, rocket made of nothing but oscar tanks.
L1021[20:49:08] <JCB> a little probe on
top
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L1029[21:24:15] <JCB> egh.. some people
that tend to think /everything/ is a lie.. gotta wonder
sometimes
L1030[21:25:52] <phroa> pff look at this
moron, believes in the earth. that's been disproved a long time
ago
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L1032[21:31:26] <transitbiker> earth =
dirt, soil, ground
L1033[21:33:01] <transitbiker> oscar the
grouch rocket
L1034[21:34:41] <JCB> oscar-b tank... you
probably thinking the -G version.. modeled after garbage can
L1035[21:35:06] <transitbiker> heh
L1036[21:35:27] <transitbiker> i enjoy
the crappier engines too
L1037[21:35:31] <transitbiker> i mean
rapier
L1038[21:36:38] <JCB> after seeing the
electron rocket launch, makes me wonder if normal rocket engines
can actuall produce their own power
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L1040[21:37:04] <transitbiker> they
can
L1041[21:37:08] <transitbiker> will
power
L1042[21:37:29] <JCB> electron took power
to run its pumps...
L1043[21:37:46] <JCB> normally a little
bit of fuel is used to generate gas to run the pumps..
L1044[21:39:27] <transitbiker> its
magic
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L1046[21:39:54] <JCB> meh..
L1047[21:40:20] <transitbiker> i often
wonder how such "sophistocated" minds of old would handle
modern technology
L1048[21:40:36] <JCB> depends on how well
they can learn.
L1049[21:40:52] <JCB> or... adjust to
things? Might be a bit of a shock.
L1050[21:40:56] <transitbiker> i mean,
would they jump back and accuse witchcraft?
L1051[21:41:39] <JCB> that case.. would
depend on their culture, background, personality.. ect
L1052[21:42:39] <JCB> some may go by
witchcraft, and think high tech is the world of some demons.
L1053[21:42:44] <transitbiker> you could
never know for sure
L1054[21:42:49] <JCB> world.. work..
meh
L1055[21:43:46] <JCB> I'm a little
worried about the whole, everyone's face in their phones all the
time. The occasional walking into poles
L1056[21:44:11] <JCB> don't get me on
about the high and mighty, must get there as fast as I can drive
mentality
L1057[21:45:21] <transitbiker> its not
the phone's fault, i can assue you hehe
L1058[21:45:24] <transitbiker>
assure*
L1059[21:45:51] <JCB> no.. its people not
knowing how to use tech resoncably..
L1060[21:46:12] <transitbiker> the typos
are atronk
L1061[21:46:16] <transitbiker>
stronk*
L1062[21:46:19] <JCB> then again... so
much tech crammed into cars these days, they starting to wonder if
makers and dealers are adding too much distraction to the
driving
L1063[21:46:20] <transitbiker>
jeeze
L1064[21:46:45] <JCB> now there is talk
about how they can make /any/ car with a steering wheel, self
driving
L1065[21:47:07] <transitbiker> i keep my
eyes on the road 100% unless i'm checking mirrors
L1066[21:47:25] <JCB> I chocked when they
said, check mirrors every 9 seconds
L1067[21:47:46] <JCB> or something along
those lines... you adjust to the driving conditions.
L1068[21:47:58] <transitbiker> to avoid
zoning out
L1069[21:48:46] <JCB> when I first
started driving, I hard hard time staying awake travelling out ot
Seattle.. a little less than 3 hour drive
L1070[21:49:14] <JCB> these days, I can
go all day, for the most part. Ya.. you should stop now and then,
take a break.
L1071[21:50:06] <JCB> to be honest.. I'd
rather drive, take it easy. I like travelling. I cringe a little
when I see people doing twice the speed limit, only to get into
accidents
L1072[21:50:40] <transitbiker> i prefer
my bike first, train second, bus third, walking fourth
L1073[21:50:54] <transitbiker> i am a
very good driver but i do not like driving in the least
L1074[21:51:21] <Supercheese> username
checks out
L1075[21:52:08] <JCB> would like to visit
denmark again.. lots of flat land out there. Tons of people bike
everywhere
L1076[21:53:08] <Supercheese> even the
Danish armed forces (used to?) bicycle
L1077[21:53:17] <Supercheese> I wonder if
they still do
L1078[21:53:21] <Draconiator> Completely
baffles me why the flat earth movement appears to be gaining
speed....
L1079[21:54:04] <Supercheese> Ah, bicycle
infantry seems to have been phased out
L1080[21:54:19] <JCB> we have police on
bikes here.. more short range though
L1081[21:54:32] <Supercheese> except for
partisan/irregulars
L1082[21:54:35] <JCB> I just mentioned
denmark because mom's from there. I sorta miss it. (last was in
'86)
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L1084[21:56:13] <transitbiker> flat
earth?
L1085[21:56:27] <transitbiker> i can get
behind tamped earth, but flat earth? nah
L1086[21:56:33] <JCB> eh.. you hear them
ranting all the time on all the streamed launches it seems
L1087[21:57:07] <JCB> going to go out on
a limb and say that probably a few of them are just trolls, doing
it for fun
L1088[21:57:52] <transitbiker> we have
reached a critical mass as a species. from here we can go on, or
crash and burn. i feel stuff like that is more a sign of this
critical mass, not a sign of things getting worse
L1089[21:58:23] <JCB> ooooh.. there is so
much more going on than you, or even I am aware of..
L1090[21:59:08] <transitbiker> i'm pretty
up to speed on things, generally
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L1092[22:00:29] <Draconiator> I mean I
can get behind the idea we just live in some gigantic round
terrarium, and the altitude the air is too thin is the
"glass"....fut flat earthers are probably drunken
druggies or something...
L1093[22:01:05] <JCB> was more along the
lines that flat earthers aren't the only people...
L1094[22:01:14] <transitbiker> one thing
that most westerners still don't get is sunni vs shii and to not
interfere with cultures we don't fit into historically... you want
to talk about trolling, like, let people believe what they want,
you know? trends come and go, not much we can do to influence that,
nor should we, just keep to your own lane and top harassing others,
but that's probably a bad topic to get into any further
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L1097[22:02:08] <transitbiker> deep down
we are all angry 12 year olds
L1098[22:02:11] <JCB> people can believe
what they want... just don't cause harm to others
L1099[22:02:29] <transitbiker> but will
we build a huge lego thing in our rooms, or will we go pick on
other kids
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L1102[22:02:55] <JCB> heh... lego. I know
someone who's built a city in a room on many tables
L1103[22:03:49] <transitbiker> like in
"contact" i'm curious how we will survive this
technological/sociological adolescence
L1104[22:05:39] <Draconiator> Yeah.
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L1106[22:06:26] <JCB> who knows.. we
might be doing better than expected
L1107[22:07:10] <ConductingCat> :3
L1108[22:07:40] <JCB> not like we have a
baseline...
L1110[22:07:56] <JCB> I suspect there
will always be 'teething problems'
L1111[22:09:46] <Draconiator> A few days
ago I was thinking if man lands on Mars in my lifetime, I can die
happy because the future is here. but then I look at the small
things,...my Internet speed...Smart TVs...and the way things are
delivered now, and I realized I don't have to wait for the Mars
landing. We're here already...and sure we have creepy things like
robots that are a little TOO humanlike, but other than
that...
L1112[22:10:49] <JCB> live in the moment
huh?
L1113[22:11:30] <Draconiator> Yeah.
L1114[22:14:37] <transitbiker> we have
arrived :d
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L1116[22:16:47] <JCB> speaking of the the
moment... friends just threw an alert my way, train engines hit a
fuel tanker truck not far from where I live
L1117[22:16:56] <transitbiker> brb
hehe
L1118[22:17:08] <transitbiker> what
railroad company?
L1119[22:17:22] <transitbiker> NS, CSX,
UP, BNSF, KCS>
L1120[22:18:47] <Arynnia> etaoin
shrdlu
L1121[22:18:58] <Supercheese>
Gesundheit
L1122[22:19:10] <Arynnia> How is everyone
?
L1123[22:19:16] <transitbiker> hi
L1124[22:19:18] <Mod9000> Hello,
transitbiker
L1126[22:19:23] <transitbiker> o.o
L1127[22:19:35] <transitbiker> name?
"sess nuh"
L1128[22:19:56] <transitbiker> i am
curious to its range
L1130[22:22:56] <JCB> er ya.. CPR, port
coquitlam railyard
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L1132[22:24:28] <JCB> transitbiker I've
done a few stupid little craft creations with the Mk3
cockpit...
L1133[22:25:25] <JCB> a prototype
spaceplane and a fully functional one.. though it uses 4 rapiers,
so slightly cheaty
L1134[22:26:56] <JCB> oh sweet.. do have
screen shots
L1136[22:28:29] <kmath> YouTube - Launch
Vehicle Testing
L1137[22:29:17] <Draconiator> Higher
quality video isn't ready yet because I just uploaded it.
L1138[22:29:48] <Mathuin> ve2dmn: need
"return from moon" script. :-) Can't set target to Kerbin
because we're in the Mun's SOI.
L1139[22:34:22] <Mathuin> My idea of
setting apo outside Mun's SOI, then setting peri to Kerbin's
surface, took eight days of unnecessary coasting.
L1140[22:36:12] <Draconiator> heh
L1141[22:37:24] <Draconiator> I always
use a retrograde slingshot around Mun from Minmus to go to
Kerbin.
L1142[22:41:08] <transitbiker> :D
L1143[22:42:03] <transitbiker> ok
L1144[22:42:25] <transitbiker> am a rail
transport advocate, so yeah
L1145[22:44:45] <Mathuin> The landing
scripts with RAMP aren't really useful for my style of rockets.
:-(
L1146[22:47:27] <transitbiker> ethanol
burns pretty hot, but not toxic as its combustion products are
water and co2
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L1150[23:28:21] <transitbiker> how do i
calculate when the fuel tank will run dry?
L1151[23:28:30] <transitbiker> like time
till it gets emptied
L1152[23:28:54] <Gasher[work]> volume
divided by fuel flow?
L1153[23:29:02] <transitbiker> hmmm
L1154[23:29:19] <transitbiker> 1200 units
of fuel
L1155[23:29:19] <Gasher[work]> seems too
obvious an answer]
L1156[23:29:44] <transitbiker> 0.08 fuel
consumption rate
L1157[23:30:08] <transitbiker> 1200
divided by 0.08 would be a pretty large number, yes?
L1158[23:30:53] <transitbiker> 25 minutes
of fuel?
L1159[23:31:15] <Gasher[work]> 250?
L1160[23:31:20] <transitbiker> im not
sure i am doing the calculation correctly
L1161[23:31:23] <transitbiker> ok
L1162[23:31:45] <Gasher[work]> 4 hours of
burn lol
L1163[23:31:54] <transitbiker> thats a
lot
L1164[23:34:33] <transitbiker> that is
enough to circle kerbin 1.3 times
L1165[23:34:44] <transitbiker> at 250
m/s
L1166[23:34:48] <transitbiker> no thank
you
L1167[23:34:52] <transitbiker> hehe
L1168[23:35:48] <Gasher[work]> i'd say it
makes setting up manuevres almost impossible with those manual
controls
L1169[23:38:47] <transitbiker> im just
gonna use a whiplash
L1170[23:43:26] <transitbiker> and add
some lights
L1171[23:43:38] <transitbiker> landing in
the dark is a craps shoot without lights
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L1174[23:45:08] <Gasher[work]> lol
L1175[23:45:23] <Gasher[work]> why
transitbiker? there are lights on wheels
L1176[23:45:53] <transitbiker> they dont
really help you detect terrain variations in time
L1177[23:47:20] <Gasher[work]> i'd say
they are fine if the wheel looks the correct way
L1178[23:48:44] <transitbiker> nah, they
are useless for landing on terrain that isnt flat
L1179[23:50:28] <transitbiker> how do i
know? i just tried
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L1181[23:51:12] <Gasher[work]> the other
question is why are you landing on terrain that is not flat
L1182[23:51:34] <transitbiker> because
its dark out and im not sitting here for 4 hours so my plane can
fly around kerbin
L1183[23:51:44] <transitbiker> ;)
L1184[23:51:55] <Gasher[work]> hm
L1185[23:52:21] <Gasher[work]> i think
coastlines should be flat near water edge
L1186[23:52:50] <transitbiker> cant
see
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L1188[23:53:22] <Gasher[work]> lol
L1189[23:55:43] <transitbiker> seeing
stuff pass overhead that is in orbit from a craft flying in
atmosphere
L1190[23:55:49] <DracoNetbook> I swear
putting lubuntu on this thing was the best thing I ever did to
it.
L1191[23:55:49] <transitbiker> so
cool
L1192[23:55:57] <transitbiker> what
specs?
L1193[23:56:39] <transitbiker> next thing
to pass over that i can see is an orbiting eva kerbal
L1194[23:57:11] <transitbiker> then some
spent stages
L1195[23:57:18] <Gasher[work]> lol
L1196[23:58:48] <transitbiker> -nature
film narrator voice- so majestic, how the spent stages float above
the struggles of the atmosphere"
L1197[23:59:15] <DracoNetbook> Specs of
this thing:
L1198[23:59:19] <transitbiker> yes