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L32[03:42:28] <Oneiros> hi
L33[03:42:30] <Mod9000> Hello,
Oneiros
L34[04:15:55] <Althego> lol
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L48[05:15:28] <Fluburtur> I have good
acetone now
L49[05:15:42] <Fluburtur> says it's toxic
and flamable ont he label and smells like acetone
L50[05:27:50] <Gasher_> nice
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L53[05:47:06] <Fluburtur> now how to make
the foam melt so I can paint it on cardboard
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L59[06:00:11] <Gasher[work]> glass
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L71[07:40:11] *
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L72[07:42:30] <Althego> the universe is
unaffected
L73[07:42:42] <Einarr> I'm not
surprised.
L74[07:43:36] <Einarr> Installed 1.3.1 and
am now selecting mods...
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L76[08:00:37] <Fluburtur> what is the mod
that lets you take pictures of the crafts in the vab?
L77[08:06:12] *
Einarr tries to remember what prefix kmath uses for
commands...
L78[08:06:38] <Einarr> Fluburtur: I don't
know, sorry.
L79[08:07:36] <Althego> the f1 keys?
L80[08:07:54] <Althego> or you mean the
kronal vessel viewer?
L81[08:07:59] <Fluburtur> kronal
L82[08:08:04] <Fluburtur> now to make it
work
L83[08:08:15] <Althego> make it so
L84[08:08:20] <Althego> (picard)
L85[08:10:08] <Fluburtur> I installed it
but I don't see the tab
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L87[08:12:45] <madmerlyn> I think this is
the coldest winter we've had in NW Arkansas in at least a couple
years
L88[08:13:08] <madmerlyn> it's 1F/-17C
right now
L89[08:14:26] *
Mimiru waves from NE Arkansas
L90[08:14:40] <madmerlyn> hello Red Wolf
fan :P
L91[08:15:01] <madmerlyn> yall had a better
season than the Razorbacks did this year ha
L92[08:15:10] <Mimiru> lol
L93[08:15:11] <sandbox> there was a tiny
bit of snow here earlier
L94[08:15:33] <sandbox> we don't get snow
all that often
L95[08:15:43] <Mimiru> I've got about
4" on the ground here.. work is closed today
L96[08:16:36] <madmerlyn> nice
L97[08:16:41] <Mimiru> I lived in Erie PA
for 2 years, 4" was about 30 minutes of snow.
L98[08:16:50] <madmerlyn> I wonder what
Conway looks like, that's the home office for my employer
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L100[08:17:12] <madmerlyn> 10F there,
lucky dogs
L101[08:17:32] <Althego>
.hack//SIGN?
L102[08:17:36] <madmerlyn> they thought
they might get snow yesterday, but it looks like it blew more
northward
L103[08:18:36] <Mat2ch> So, everyone
exited about the engine fire test around 21:00 UTC?
L104[08:18:52] <Althego> ah that is what
was coming today
L105[08:18:53] <sandbox> very exited
L106[08:19:05] <madmerlyn> I don't know if
I've been through Erie, I had a project in Altoona for a week
several years ago
L107[08:19:08] <Althego> since about 5:30
in the morning i was wondering what was supposed to happen on the
16th
L108[08:19:20] <Althego> i knew i rmeember
something significant happens
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L117[08:51:12] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: did you
get my comments about the funding?
L118[08:51:19] <Fluburtur> no
L120[08:51:42] <kmath> Fluburtur: I'll let
draconiator know when I see them
L121[08:52:46] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: then
you're internet connection broke away, before you could read it
:/
L122[08:52:53] <Fluburtur> yeah
L123[08:56:35] <Einarr> So many mods died.
:(
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L129[09:30:37] <Althego> oh i think the
significant event i remembered was the ksp console release
L130[09:30:48] <Althego> and tht is why i
forgot about it, never had any consoles
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L132[09:32:08] <APlayer> Hey!
L133[09:32:34] <RandomJeb> which one of
the console releases?
L134[09:33:26] <Althego> dunno
L135[09:33:29] <Althego> not all?
L136[09:33:51] <RandomJeb> there was one
that was terrible and then there was one recently that's supposed
to be a lot better
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L139[09:35:07] <Einarr> ;lf Addon Version
Checker
L141[09:35:15] <Einarr> :/
L142[09:35:17] <Althego> hehe no
L143[09:35:20] <Althego> denied
L144[09:35:22] <Althego> nope
L145[09:35:42] <Althego> release is for
ps4 and xboxone
L146[09:35:42] <Einarr> Either I forgot
the command, or it was removed.
L147[09:35:51] <Althego> there was
something
L149[09:39:52] <Einarr> o.O
L150[09:40:25] <Einarr> A console version
of KSP...have fun with the controls...and lack of enough
buttons...
L151[09:40:45] <Althego> the control
scheme was changed
L152[09:41:39] <Judge_Dedd> Early feedback
seems to be positive about the controls
L153[09:41:55] <Einarr> That's good.
L154[09:41:56] <Ezko_> peasants
L155[09:42:08] <Einarr> How much modding
support?
L156[09:42:16] <Althego> none?
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L158[09:42:28] <Einarr> (not that I own or
plan to get any of those consoles...)
L159[09:42:59] <Judge_Dedd> Ezko_, excuse
me?
L160[09:43:08] <Ezko_> console
players
L161[09:43:10] <Althego> meant console
peasants
L162[09:43:17] <FltAdmVonSpiz> so I tried
to land a lander on Duna... turns out the inflatable heat shield is
most certainly not properly stable
L163[09:43:34] <Althego> it is an
excellent airbrake though
L164[09:43:44] <FltAdmVonSpiz> so i end up
making the entry flipping the thing around to try adn stop it
distintegrating, then pulling off the landing because I don't have
enough control authority to get the engines pointed
retrograde
L165[09:43:45] <Judge_Dedd> Ezko_, you may
not degrade other users in this channel
L166[09:43:47] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I lose
parts
L167[09:43:58] <FltAdmVonSpiz> but I can't
correct the landing in time - three attempts and I've killed the
crew three times
L168[09:44:03] <FltAdmVonSpiz> nearly
plled it off the last time though
L169[09:44:15] <FltAdmVonSpiz> *then not
pulling
L170[09:44:18] <Althego> you dont need
that on duna though
L171[09:44:33] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I might
just try jettisoning it prior to entry
L172[09:44:43] <Althego> should work
fine
L173[09:45:07] <Judge_Dedd> Einarr,
there's been no comment from Squad so far about mod support in the
future, but there are currently no mods available for
console.
L174[09:45:50] <FltAdmVonSpiz> but yes, it
is most certainly a good aerobrake, I think I am going to have to
fit Mass RCS on things that use it
L175[09:45:57] <FltAdmVonSpiz> or mount
them on both ends of the ship somehow
L176[09:46:17] <Althego> or just a few
fins
L177[09:46:36] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I tried
spinning up and my ship exploded because I span up
L178[09:46:44] <FltAdmVonSpiz> then I got
some kind of kraken thing going on and it just spun faster and
faster
L180[09:46:56] <FltAdmVonSpiz> spin
stabilisation for entry
L181[09:47:27] <Einarr> FltAdmVonSpiz: So
the craft is not stable in Duna's atmo with the heatshield
attached?
L182[09:47:39] <FltAdmVonSpiz> apparently
not
L183[09:47:50] <FltAdmVonSpiz> and its a
very aggressive entry
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L185[09:48:06] <Einarr> No chutes on the
other end of the craft?
L186[09:48:18] <FltAdmVonSpiz> there are
but I hit the deck before I'm goign slow enough to use them
L187[09:48:42] <FltAdmVonSpiz> unless I
manage to dumpt he shield and correct my trajectory I end up
hitting the ground at 300m/s
L188[09:48:44] <Einarr> I was thinking for
stabilisation purposes.
L189[09:49:12] <Einarr> Pop the chutes as
high up as you can to try to give some extra drag to that end of
the ship.
L190[09:49:28] <FltAdmVonSpiz> will cuhtes
deploy if they are showing unsafe velocity?
L191[09:49:54] <Einarr> I don't actually
know...
L192[09:50:45] <Einarr> If they don't pop
while at unsafe velocity, then pop them as soon as you can.
L193[09:50:51] <FltAdmVonSpiz> like they
should be safe to open at megavelocity on Duna anyway, because the
low air density
L194[09:50:57] <Einarr> Though that may
already be too late.
L195[09:51:56] <Judge_Dedd> Chutes will
deploy at any velocity you choose
L196[09:52:02] <Einarr> If you can open
them, the heatshield may protect them from the entry
plasma...depending on their placement, etc (in particular how much
they open during that phase)
L197[09:52:11] <Althego> better take
orange chutes to duna
L198[09:52:13] <Althego> helps more
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L200[09:52:28] <Einarr> Also, thanks for
reminding me...
L201[09:52:36] *
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L202[09:52:39] <Judge_Dedd> But if the
indicator shows red, the chute will be destroyed
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L204[09:54:43] <Einarr> Were you having
problems with things burning off? (I assume you were basically
coming in 'backwards' from the way you intended, with the heatshild
not in the airstream before the rest of the craft)
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L206[09:56:23] <Einarr> If nothing was
burning off, you might use the heatshield as an airbrake until the
red for the chutes goes away, then decouple it and use the chutes
to help reorient your craft.
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L208[10:05:22] <FltAdmVonSpiz> nothing
critical blows off
L209[10:05:29] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I only lose
an aerodynamic nos which is not serious on Duna
L210[10:06:09] <Althego> actually you can
have quite a lot of atmo loss too
L211[10:10:32] <ve2dmn> If anyone ever
tries out the Console version, let me know. I don't plan on buying
it, but I'm curious how good is the control scheme
L212[10:11:03] <Althego> you tube must
have done it for you already
L213[10:11:04] <FltAdmVonSpiz> really
being hurt by the lack of ISRU, otherwise I would have a fuel depot
on Ike or similar, and my ships would be way smaller
L214[10:11:11] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I wouldn't
be trying to land a 60t spacecraft on Duna
L215[10:11:13] <madmerlyn> controllers
probably great for flight, and garbage for building, I'd
imagine
L216[10:11:42] <ve2dmn> I'm back to
work
L217[10:11:49] <Althego> there is the
extraplanetary launchapds mod
L218[10:11:55] <ve2dmn> Spent the morning
moving to my new office
L219[10:11:55] <Althego> you could build
the rocket on duna
L220[10:13:11] <ve2dmn> Althego: how does
recover works with the extraplanetry mod?
L221[10:13:30] <FltAdmVonSpiz> with ISRU I
would be retanking my Core Ascent stage for the burn to Duna using
a depot on Minmus
L222[10:13:37] <FltAdmVonSpiz> burn to
minmus, tank up and then do a kerbin flyby
L223[10:13:50] <Althego> dunno how it
works, ask taniwha
L224[10:18:11] <Althego> haha wolfie
video
L225[10:18:18] <Althego> oh it is
rehosted
L226[10:22:27] <bees> FltAdmVonSpiz: if
you have inflatable heat shield on duna, first break in high atmo
to get captured, then just entry backwards using heat shield as a
parachute
L227[10:25:12] <Mathuin> I finally
modified my plane to properly splash with FAR et al. It takes
fourteen parachutes to slow my vertical descent to 4.5m/s and I
have to use unusually large landing gear.
L228[10:33:43] <APlayer> Pics?
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L231[10:45:16] <madmerlyn> or it didnt'
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L237[11:15:47] <iamfishhead> Check yo'
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L254[12:37:12] <Truga> i'm the mouse
wiggle
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L259[12:59:54] <Althego> hehe
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L265[13:28:07] <ve2dmn> My new office has
a Lava Lamp
L266[13:29:13] <ve2dmn> The chaostic flow
of fluids is right in my face. It's very relaxing
L267[13:29:23] <UmbralRaptor> If you
haven't opened it up, it's still a magma lamp.
L268[13:29:47] <ve2dmn> Tell that to the
Minecraft Community
L269[13:30:34] <UmbralRaptor> They'd find
a way to drop magma from orbit.
L270[13:32:49] <ve2dmn> I miss the old
days of Minecraft sometimes
L271[13:34:53] <Fluburtur> heh
L272[13:35:07] <Fluburtur> I used to go on
some random server with a friend, walk very far and build a
house
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L274[13:35:09] <Fluburtur> was fun
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L276[13:36:49] <ve2dmn> So you were an
explorer, a builder or a farmer/miner?
L277[13:37:53] <ve2dmn> Because I've
notice 3 attitudes in Minecraft: Either people like to explore and
go really far making giant map and blowing up the server file
size
L278[13:38:13] <ve2dmn> Or they were into
building and made giant structures
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L281[13:39:35] <ve2dmn> Or they made
things to explain the ressources in the game, like Spawners or Farm
Sheep or an large grid-based mine
L282[13:39:42] <ve2dmn> exploit, not
explain
L283[13:46:28] <Fluburtur> well we often
went quite far so we were alone and built a house half inside a
mountain
L284[13:46:36] <Fluburtur> with a lot of
underground rooms and hidden passages
L285[13:46:41] <Althego> this i can get
into a cabin but cant get out because it is obstructed (no it isnt
i just proved it) issue is so annoyinh
L286[13:46:43] <Fluburtur> I usually
didn't do the farming
L287[13:46:55] <Althego> at least it could
show me in the editor what is in the range that causes it
L288[13:47:32] <Fluburtur> im sad because
I don't have pictures of our last house
L289[13:47:36] <Fluburtur> it was quite
large
L290[13:49:23] <Fluburtur> we made a big
underground room where we had to dig like 10k blocks
L291[13:51:17] <Fluburtur> I kinda miss
it
L292[13:51:22] <Fluburtur> I want to do
that again
L293[13:52:36] <ve2dmn> I used to have my
own dedicated server, but since I don't work at that company
anymore I wasn't allowed to keep it
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L295[13:52:52] <ve2dmn> (used to work for
a server hosting company)
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L297[13:53:36] <ve2dmn> I don't miss doing
tech support there
L298[13:54:21] <ve2dmn> My big boss wanted
to 'make customer happy' but the only numbers she ever looked at
was 'tickets solved per week'
L299[13:55:11] <ve2dmn> 'solved' didn't
mean the same thing to everyone
L300[13:55:17] <Draconiator> ahhh in
Terraria I built an entire town in a mini marble biome. I like
it.
L301[13:55:56] <ve2dmn> One employee was
really good at 'Your server is dead, we'll give you a new one' and
move the issue down to another departement...
L302[13:56:16] <ve2dmn> ... my boss loved
that guy because his numbers looked good.
L303[14:00:31] <ve2dmn> let this be a
lesson kids: You aren't always rewarded because you do the right
things... you are rewarded because it LOOKS like you are doing the
right thing
L304[14:02:29] <ve2dmn> Also: Actions
speaks louder then words
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L306[14:03:49] <sandbox> I recently found
out that Rosalina from Super Mario Galaxy is called Rosetta in
Japan... I wonder why they changed it considering the whole game
was about comets and space things
L307[14:05:03] <ve2dmn> sandbox: because
the translator has a lot of power
L308[14:05:15] <sandbox> kinda dumb
L309[14:06:30] <ve2dmn> there's probably a
really good reason...
L310[14:10:35] <ve2dmn> I mean, the French
translators went with 'Harmonie'
L311[14:11:40] <ve2dmn> And spanish went
with 'Estela'
L312[14:14:09] <ve2dmn> sandbox: don't
worry though. It will never be as bad as the french translation of
Star Wars Episode 4, where they changed the name of C3PO
L313[14:15:03] <ve2dmn> It's a freaking
SERIAL NUMBER. Why would you change that to Z6PO?
L314[14:15:32] <Fluburtur> because it is
be like that
L316[14:15:52] <kmath> YouTube - 3PO says
I'm not Spielberg in the original STAR WARS
L317[14:18:34] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: French
translator are really good with what looks like random changes to
name... Like changing Frodo to Frodon and Bilbo to Bilbon... why
would you do that? Is there a hidden rule that I am not aware
of?
L318[14:18:51] <Fluburtur> idk
L319[14:18:58] <Fluburtur> maybe they hate
the movies
L320[14:19:09] <Fluburtur> I know that
translating names is a bad thing
L321[14:21:49] <ve2dmn> At least, it's not
just the french translation... take "Where's Waldo? / Where's
Wally?"
L322[14:22:06] <ve2dmn> Why the name
change? I don't know
L323[14:23:35] <sandbox> Odlaw makes no
sense in the original
L324[14:23:47] <sandbox> Yllaw ;p
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L331[14:51:29] <Althego> so, will there be
static fire test now?
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L334[14:56:57] <Althego> powered by 3
wheesley engines
L335[14:57:06] <Althego> very
inefficient
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L337[14:57:26] <Althego> it has onboard
isru and place for one (land) vehicle in the nose
L338[14:57:59] <Althego> possibly the isru
could be replaced by a small sub
L339[14:58:09] <Mathuin> ve2dmn: finally
upgraded my VAB. My SCANsat mission script works. Load the rocket,
watch it go to Mun, get in the right orbit, and start
scanning.
L340[14:58:34] <ve2dmn> nice. Share?
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L342[14:59:55] <ve2dmn> My know encouter
script sort of works, but I'm sure I could do better because it
takes a lot time to get an encouter
L343[15:00:27] *
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L345[15:01:12] <ve2dmn> My own encouter
script sort of works, but I'm sure I could do better because it
takes a long time to to get to the encouter
L347[15:03:07] <Mathuin> There are
companion scripts which set up the kOS machine's config but that's
what actually runs the mission.
L348[15:04:54] <ve2dmn> why 'until once'
?
L349[15:05:08] <Mathuin> Because kOS does
not allow you to break out of a script.
L350[15:05:21] <ve2dmn> right. make
sense
L351[15:05:27] <Mathuin> Stupid hack
:-)
L352[15:05:41] <ve2dmn> And I guess this
create moslty circular orbits
L353[15:06:02] <Mathuin> For uniform
passes
L354[15:07:51] <ve2dmn> The only addition
I would do is a UI to enter the mission parameters
L355[15:08:49] <Mathuin> I'd considered
that, having a GUI with a dropdown for target bodies, but the name
thing allows for hands-free launches.
L356[15:09:20] <ve2dmn> How do you know
when is the best windows for the transfer?
L357[15:09:30] <Mathuin> I don't, I let
the autopilot puzzle it out.
L358[15:09:43] <Mathuin> The one time it's
screwed up was when Mun was in the way of a trip to Minmus.
L359[15:09:52] <ve2dmn> What about
Duna?
L360[15:10:36] <Mathuin> Outside the scope
of this particular script, but now you've got me wondering what
would happen. :-)
L361[15:11:04] <ve2dmn> Because my own
Rendez-vous script had that sort of transfert issue
L362[15:11:28] <ve2dmn> It had to work
with any orbits (round or not) and any inclination...
L363[15:12:16] <ve2dmn> so the easy route
was to make 1 point of both orbits touch and then adjust the orbit
so that the next pass would get an encouter
L364[15:12:19] <Mat2ch> Althego: "The
Falcon Heavy static fire test has been rescheduled for no earlier
than 3 p.m. EST (2000 GMT) Friday, the opening of a four-hour
window."
L365[15:12:27] <Althego> eh
L366[15:12:42] <ve2dmn> That will work,
but it's slow
L367[15:14:31] <ve2dmn> For an encouter
with Minmus, for example, it might take 14 days
L368[15:15:38] <Fluburtur> why does the
pitch goes to neutralw hen I tap roll while flying planes
L369[15:15:41] <Fluburtur> this is really
annoying
L370[15:16:45] <Althego> it doesnt?
L371[15:16:59] <Fluburtur> it does
L372[15:17:01] <Althego> unless pitch and
roll is combined on the same surface maybe
L373[15:17:06] <Fluburtur> nah
L374[15:17:16] <Fluburtur> on the bottom
left thing
L375[15:17:26] <Fluburtur> I see pitch go
to neutral for a moment
L376[15:17:49] <ve2dmn> probably a control
surface that's doing both
L377[15:18:05] <Fluburtur> nah my surfaces
only do one thing
L378[15:18:10] <Fluburtur> and I disabled
reaction wheels
L379[15:18:40] <ve2dmn> put brakes on the
runway and test out 1 button at a time?
L380[15:19:02] <ve2dmn> or try another
keyboard?
L381[15:19:07] <Fluburtur> well im flying
a plane and the SAS is holding pitch so I guess I can't do
that
L382[15:19:14] <Fluburtur> guess I need a
stick
L383[15:19:24] <Fluburtur> I could make a
controller box
L384[15:19:37] <Fluburtur> I have spare
sticks somewhere
L385[15:19:48] <ve2dmn> Cardboard!
L386[15:19:54] <Fluburtur> exactly
L387[15:20:45] <Mathuin> trim?
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L389[15:20:57] <ve2dmn> Or input
locks?
L390[15:21:48] <Fluburtur> idk
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L392[15:23:04] <madmerlyn> Flub I'd blame
it on the SAS TBH
L393[15:23:26] <madmerlyn> whenever I'm
manually flying I press and hold F when making adjustments to try
to keep the nose from moving down
L394[15:23:44] <madmerlyn> f temp.
disables SAS while its held down
L395[15:24:12] <madmerlyn> it's also good
for getting it to stop overcompensating, I'll press it a few times
until it stops pushing the sliders around when doing precise
maneuvers in orbit
L396[15:24:33] <Fluburtur> or I could use
the more precise controls
L397[15:24:42] <madmerlyn> that's my
default mode lol
L398[15:24:53] <madmerlyn> doesn't matter,
the way SAS works it will over compensate everything
L399[15:25:09] <madmerlyn> you push D,
it's going to go until you release it and then bring it back a
little bit
L400[15:25:20] <madmerlyn> because it
thinks you don't know what you actually want for vector
L401[15:30:08] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: sas is
a PIDLoop
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L404[15:30:38] <ve2dmn> It just mean the
Integral multiplier is probably a bit off
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L409[15:39:36] <ve2dmn> Mathuin: I'm gonna
split my code into libraries so it's more easily readable
L410[15:40:21] <ve2dmn> Because, at this
point, I'm getting a bit confused myself, so I might as well
re-write the confusing parts with more comments and cleaner
code
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L413[15:47:22] <Mathuin> Making libraries
can be really helpful. I try to keep stuff simple and document it
if it's not trivial.
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L415[15:48:43] <ve2dmn> I've decide to put
as many comments as possible. If the files become too big, I'll
start using the 'COMPILE' option
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L417[15:50:38] <Mathuin> The units are way
way too small.
L418[15:50:40] <Mathuin> Way.
L419[15:50:50] <ve2dmn> Units?
L420[15:50:56] <Mathuin> Machines.
L421[15:50:58] <Mathuin> Devices.
L422[15:51:04] <Mathuin> Their capacity is
way too tiny
L423[15:51:10] <ve2dmn> of course
L424[15:52:52] <ve2dmn> I have an idea for
a docking algorithm, but I wonder how kOS will react with
Konstruction ports
L425[15:59:12] <ve2dmn> And I have to do
all this before Feb because I'll get distracted then
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L428[16:04:52] <ve2dmn> bbl
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L443[16:59:05] <Mathuin> Whoops,
interrupted a burn, went back to it, and now *that* probe is in
solar orbit
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L452[17:45:44] <taniwha> ve2dmn: recovery
+ EL = profit
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L454[17:57:39] <GuestBanana> Hello all!
Hoping that the EE launch went well :)
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L500[23:13:03] <Einarr> Anyone know
offhand what the dV requirement for LKO is with FAR?
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L502[23:15:31] *
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L505[23:22:18] <taniwha> Einarr: about
3300m/s (+/- 300)
L506[23:24:45] <Gasher[work]> +/- your
skill in designing and piloting
L507[23:25:07] <Gasher[work]> as about
that, yesterday i had to actually pull the craft from orbit
L508[23:25:18] <Einarr> Hmm.
L509[23:25:40] <Einarr> The dV map in the
channel topic says ~3k for an 80km LKO
L510[23:25:53] <Einarr> I had assumed FAR
would reduce that.
L511[23:25:56] <taniwha> Einarr: that's
very extreme
L512[23:26:39] <taniwha> it's possible to
get lower (with FAR, even), but you need to have just the right
trajectory
L513[23:26:44] <taniwha> too many factors,
really
L514[23:27:08] <Einarr> I'm trying to
build a Falcon-esque rocket where I can bring the first stage back
and land it.
L515[23:27:20] <Einarr> So, trying to
figure out how much extra dV to pack.
L516[23:28:48] <Gasher[work]> Einarr, i
suggest experimenting with that
L517[23:30:32] <Gasher[work]> Einarr, for
ksp you'd need fuel to get your stage on trajectory to landing site
and then whatever it takes to stop its fall on terminal velocity
neat surface
L518[23:31:26] <Einarr> taniwha: I usually
use MJ's Ascent mode to get to orbit. I've found it can be
reasonably efficient.
L520[23:31:55] <taniwha> MJ is good for
/consistent/ ascents
L521[23:32:09] <Einarr> IT is
indeed.
L522[23:32:12] <taniwha> you still have to
tweak it to get the most efficient ascent for your rocket
L523[23:32:26] <Einarr> Yes, you do.
L524[23:32:44] <Einarr> But once dialed
in, it can be failry efficient.
L525[23:32:54] *
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L526[23:33:09] <Einarr> fairly*
L527[23:33:36] <Einarr> Though, I suppose
with poorly designed rockets, it can be failry also...
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