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L4[00:10:30] <JCB> was mulling over
something... while reading up on gemini mission stuff..
L5[00:11:34] <JCB> they send all that
hardware up.. gemini 3 mission only lasted 4 hours, 3 orbits. I
understand it was to test things out..
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L11[01:22:51] <darsie> I switched to a
Kerbal in orbit and it inherited a maneuver node from the rocket I
controlled before.
L12[01:23:19] <darsie> Can't delete the
node with the Kerbal, control locked.
L13[01:24:09] <darsie> Hmm, or is that
normal to show nodes of targets?
L14[01:27:35] <JCB> possibly
L15[01:28:13] <JCB> fuh.. ok now i hate
myself... trying to record a mission.. being too much of a
perfectionist.. :\
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L17[01:37:31] <Mathuin> Is the right way to
break out of a kOS script mid-stream still to wrap the code with
`set once to false. until once { set once to true. if bad-thing {
break. } ... }.` ?
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L20[02:03:07] <Mathuin> ve2dmn: new launch
script extracts the target body from the ship name and the best
altitude by traversing the ship for scanners.
L21[02:03:36] <Mathuin> Slap a SCANsat
scanner on the craft, name it 'SCANsat Minmus Probe', and 'run
mission_scansat.' :-)
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L27[02:26:43] <taniwha> o/
L28[02:28:51] <Oneiros> hi
L29[02:28:53] <Mod9000> Hello,
Oneiros
L30[02:29:15] *
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L31[02:29:37] <Oneiros> that's what you get
for being a robot
L32[02:43:12] <JCB> who here is good with
DV figures?
L33[02:44:48] *
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L36[02:47:18] <JCB> I'm using one of the
delta V map things...
L37[02:47:42] <JCB> nothing bad.. just..
curiosu about something. Says 1170dv required from 80km kerbin
orbit, to 14km mun orbit.. right?
L38[02:48:02] <JCB> then return, no aero
breaking, says the same...
L39[02:48:38] <JCB> mind you... I reached
mun with a 180x46km orbit...
L40[02:48:41] <Mathuin> Aerobraking is
possible it claims returning from Mun.
L41[02:48:47] <Mathuin> On my map that
is.
L42[02:49:16] <Mathuin> That being said,
I've never noticed the return trip dv numbers matching the outgoing
ones. Always easier to come home, so far for me.
L43[02:49:26] <JCB> I know but this mission
simulation run, I can't use aero.. i want to return to kerbin
circular orbit
L44[02:50:05] <JCB> ya.. I used 1110dv out
to mun.. and 1100 return, back into an 80x80 kerbin orbit
L45[02:51:18] <JCB> mind you.. whats
throwing me a bit is I'm doing DV remaining calcs by hand with a dv
calculator.. it keeps telling me I have less than actual
L46[02:51:49] <JCB> hense why the dry
run..
L47[02:52:00] <Oneiros> I always aerobrake
after a mun trip
L48[02:54:55] <Oneiros> u can even
aerobrake on EVA, though the suit heats up pretty quick. once i got
stranded and had to use aerobraking and jetpack fuel to circularise
a LKO
L49[02:55:22] <JCB> ok.. made safe retro
brake..
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L51[02:55:29] <JCB> though fuel came pretty
low..
L52[02:56:18] <JCB> undock.. do some
figuring see how much DV was actually left
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L56[03:07:51] <JCB> 22 fuel left over,
giving 432 dv....
L57[03:08:05] <JCB> huh...
L58[03:08:49] <JCB> oh wait...
L59[03:09:16] <JCB> lol whoops...
L60[03:09:39] <JCB> pulled up vessel info
panel too quickly, gave me zip.. and a big '?' icon for it ;P
L61[03:11:48] <JCB> ah ok.. thats much
better, 173 DV left... I forgot to add the weight of the
commandpod+service section..
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L63[03:13:54] <JCB> hmm... wonder if thast
why I pulled fuel from the service section way back when I first
started this project. Gave a little extra DV in the long run since
it was just dead weight in there...
L64[03:14:51] <JCB> egh... a few other
things trying to figure out. Probably should crash for now. Don't
suppose anyone's got a work sheet for writing down stuff,
preformances, fuel, dv during a mission?
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L81[06:21:11] <Fluburtur> ok time to run
the pi calculation again
L82[06:23:43] <Althego> why
L83[06:23:46] <Althego> pie
L84[06:23:53] <Fluburtur> because I
can
L85[06:24:03] <Althego> it is either a cpu
stress test
L86[06:24:03] <Fluburtur> I told the thing
to calculate one billion digits
L87[06:24:16] <Fluburtur> and it isn't very
hard on the cpu either
L88[06:24:18] <Althego> or some kind of
nerd stuff
L89[06:24:26] <Fluburtur> nerd stuff
L91[06:24:49] <kmath_> YouTube -
Wintergrips - Takyon Machine (music instrument using a very angry
man)
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L97[07:05:45] <Fluburtur> and crash
instantly
L98[07:11:00] <kuzetsa> Fluburtur: the
story behind that is amazing - grep, ctrl+F, or otherwise note the
[ " Anish Kapoor" ] reference on that page you just
linked
L99[07:11:11] <Fluburtur> yeah I know about
that
L100[07:11:15] <kuzetsa> because you made
a reference to painting a plane tho -- yeah
L101[07:11:20] <kuzetsa> I figured you
probably knew :)
L102[07:13:11] <kuzetsa> also, wintergaten
<3
L103[07:13:15] <kuzetsa> wait that is a
different song
L104[07:13:19] <kuzetsa> artist?
L105[07:13:23] <kuzetsa> O.o
L106[07:13:51] <kuzetsa> oh dear what have
you just linked
L107[07:13:59] <Fluburtur> good
stuff
L108[07:14:14] <kuzetsa> right uh...
L109[07:14:24] <kuzetsa> grr
L110[07:14:29] <kuzetsa> that is a ruined
version
L111[07:14:33] *
kuzetsa makes angerface
L112[07:16:02] <kuzetsa> "music
insturment usinv a very angry man" isn't even right - he's one
of the sweetest people EVER
L113[07:16:34] <kuzetsa> it's just
difficult to crank that thing (physically exhausting) so it's being
rebuilt - almost done, in fact
L114[07:16:48] <kuzetsa> total redesign
:/
L115[07:17:34] <Fluburtur> yeah I
know
L116[07:17:43] <Fluburtur> no video from
wintergatan in a few weeks too
L117[07:17:51] <Fluburtur> probably busy
with his new house
L118[07:17:53] <kuzetsa> nod
L119[07:18:16] <kuzetsa> I'm yelling at
the internet because someone picked a horrible caption for that
video
L120[07:18:24] <kuzetsa> err, title
L121[07:18:34] <kuzetsa> O.o
L122[07:18:38] <Fluburtur> it's probably
because of the voice he used for the "cover"
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L124[07:19:13] <kuzetsa> it strikes me
more as parody
L125[07:19:20] <Fluburtur> yeah
L126[07:20:20] <kuzetsa> oh neat - I think
I just figured out the secret behind why he wore headphones
L127[07:21:35] <kuzetsa> it's effectively
a mechanical sequencer - there are pickups all over that thing, so
even if some of the insturments are "muted", there are
faint mechanical sounds for the timing info which he could've heard
clearly on the headphones - important because it allows him to pull
the levers to enable/disable tracks at the right time
L128[07:21:48] <kuzetsa> pickups like
microphone/sound pickups
L129[07:22:12] <kuzetsa> channels? (not
insturments... hmm)
L130[07:22:58] <kuzetsa> anyway - the
sequencer commands for each note precede (phase offset) the note
itself
L131[07:23:19] <kuzetsa> so the
mute/unmute command (err, lever flip) has to occur ahead of the
note
L132[07:23:25] <Fluburtur> also most of
the instruments don't do much sound
L133[07:23:28] <Fluburtur> like the drums
or bass
L134[07:23:41] <kuzetsa> yeah, the pickups
for those are a hack
L135[07:23:47] <kuzetsa> a brilliant
one
L136[07:24:45] <kuzetsa> the idea that
there's a pickup for the sequencer wheel tho - I never really
thought about it it almost certainly doesn't get included with the
output mix
L137[07:25:06] <kuzetsa> s/it it/it;
it
L138[07:25:31] <kuzetsa> just woke up -
must remedy the brain fog with the coffeetron3000
L139[07:26:28] <Fluburtur> he has marks on
the sequencer too
L140[07:26:33] <Fluburtur> so he can look
at those too
L141[07:26:38] <Fluburtur> he said
something about that once
L142[07:27:35] <kuzetsa> oh yeah
L143[07:27:44] <kuzetsa> visual cues.
makes sense
L144[07:28:01] <kuzetsa> "draw a line
on it which lines up if you crank at the right speed"
heh
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L146[07:44:50] <Fluburtur> so the thing
finished calculating 1 billion digits of pi
L147[07:45:04] <Fluburtur> to my surprise
the text file is only 1.81mb
L149[07:46:51] <Fluburtur> there it
is
L150[07:46:56] <petti> millibits?
L151[07:47:49] <petti> prefer mebibyte
;)
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L153[07:53:36] <Fluburtur> some stuka just
tried to zoom me
L154[07:53:41] <Fluburtur> I have a la
5fn
L156[08:00:02] <ve2dmn> Good Morning
L157[08:00:44] <Fluburtur> yo
L158[08:00:51] <Fluburtur> both motors of
my plane are working now
L159[08:00:58] <Fluburtur> guess the ESC
got wet
L160[08:01:05] <Fluburtur> time for hot
glue waterproofing then
L161[08:04:35] <Fluburtur> also for some
reason wd40 doesn't malt that kind of foam
L162[08:04:40] <Fluburtur> melt*
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L165[08:16:18] <madmerlyn> morning
chaps.
L166[08:16:41] <ve2dmn> hello
L167[08:16:43] <Mod9000> Hello,
ve2dmn
L168[08:18:35] <madmerlyn> I'm putting my
forklift on Kerbalx tonight after make a few modifications to it to
bring the mod requirements down to just Konstruction and KIS
L169[08:19:07] <madmerlyn> first actually
useful forklift design I've seen that doesn't require making the
parts in situ with EPL
L170[08:20:52] <madmerlyn> wish RD still
hung around so I could ask if he made any "flat pack"
forklifts heh
L171[08:21:41] <madmerlyn> did the math,
using a conventional disposable rocket (R9 Titan series) to put
forklift on the Mun I spent just under 13k funds per ton of payload
to munar surface
L172[08:22:06] <madmerlyn> launching
another one inside my Excalibur plane brought the cost per ton of
payload to Munar surface down to 6.8k
L173[08:23:36] <madmerlyn> think I might
go back to formula and try to build my landing script from scratch
though, last landing was 2.5km off
L174[08:24:59] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: All my
kOS stuff will be on the backburner for now... back to work it is
for me :/
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L188[09:05:57] <EricPoehlsen> I got a
small problem using Localizer ...
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L197[09:14:47] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: splish
splash splouch
L198[09:14:55] <Fluburtur> yeah
L199[09:15:01] <Fluburtur> and props
eating water
L200[09:15:12] <ve2dmn> looks nice
L201[09:15:28] <ve2dmn> can you air-drop
water with it?
L202[09:15:39] <Fluburtur> no
L203[09:15:45] <ve2dmn> :(
L204[09:15:56] <Fluburtur> if I had a 3d
printer I could probably make a mechanism for that
L205[09:16:00] <Fluburtur> but I don't
have one
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L207[09:16:58] <ve2dmn> A cube of hotglue
stuff,a knife and lots of patience?
L208[09:17:20] <Fluburtur> it would need
the scoop and unload mechanism
L209[09:17:43] <ve2dmn> LOTS and lots of
patience
L210[09:17:46] <Fluburtur> I guess I could
do all that with only one servo and some mechanical linkages but
yeah I need stuff that can make accurate stuff
L211[09:17:49] <APlayer> ...so, my GOU
just blew up yesterday
L212[09:17:53] <APlayer> GPU*
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L214[09:18:07] <ve2dmn> RIP, APlayer's
GPU
L215[09:18:50] <ve2dmn> APlayer: remember
that code I said was not working right?
L216[09:19:04] <ve2dmn> Well... it works
now, but it shouldnt be working
L217[09:19:18] <APlayer> I was working on
some stuff, put my computer in standby mode for 5 minutes, came
back and the monitor wouldn't get a picture. Narrowed it down to
inside of the computer, opened it up and the GPU was a fine
parabolic shape
L218[09:19:37] <APlayer> ve2dmn: Could you
send a paste?
L219[09:19:54] <ve2dmn> I'm at work...
so... maybe in 8h
L220[09:20:03] <APlayer> Alright,
sure
L221[09:20:08] <APlayer> Also, did Zuma
launch?
L222[09:20:12] <ve2dmn> yes
L223[09:20:24] <APlayer> Wut
L224[09:20:54] <ve2dmn> you can remove
that bit in the topic, yes
L226[09:21:08] <APlayer> I did not expect
that clicking on the topic and typing my message afterwards would
send the message via the topic, LOL
L227[09:22:02] <EricPoehlsen> well it
looks like it is impossible to use a variable in that place!
L228[09:22:41] <EricPoehlsen> I know why I
like Python a lot more :/
L229[09:22:44] <APlayer> Anyway, I ordered
a new GPU, but for now I got one that's at least 10 years old, by
the looks of it
L230[09:23:21] <ve2dmn> APlayer: It went
from Planar to highly eccentric?
L231[09:23:25] <APlayer> No KSP for now,
that is. The thing has 256 MB memory, I am afraid to even launch
graphic applications now, after what happened yesterday
L233[09:23:33] <APlayer> Basically,
yes
L234[09:23:51] <EricPoehlsen> I would like
to use Localizer for that ActionGroup Name
L235[09:24:01] <EricPoehlsen> guiName =
...
L236[09:25:09] <ve2dmn> EricPoehlsen:
writing a mod?
L237[09:26:28] <Fluburtur> im too lazy to
make the deflectors out of metal so I will make them out of
cardboard to see if they work
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L239[09:27:03] <EricPoehlsen> yeah I got
it already working - a self destruct mod - destroying your
uncontrollable rockets in style
L240[09:27:59] <Fluburtur> I guess you
could put that in a kos script
L241[09:28:01] <EricPoehlsen> just want to
make use of localizer but C# does not allow to inject a variable
into an Attribute Call [Func(param, param)] params have to be true
static
L242[09:28:07] <Fluburtur> if your rocket
fails to follow a trajectory it goes boom
L243[09:28:33] <APlayer> Fluburtur: Would
need something from BDA that makes it go boom
L244[09:28:35] <EricPoehlsen> of course
you could put it into an kOS script or use RCP but I wanted to get
into the true modding part
L245[09:28:58] <ve2dmn> setup as Abort
Actiongroup
L246[09:29:11] <Fluburtur> you can
activate the small warhead while it's attached to stuff
L247[09:29:24] <Fluburtur> should be
enough to sufficiently destroy any rocket
L248[09:29:30] <EricPoehlsen> it does -
the part has its primary action that will be automatically in the
abort action group
L249[09:29:53] <APlayer> Soyuz
successfully aborted the launch: No crew and/or spacecraft parts
larger than 5 cm³ survived
L250[09:30:45] <EricPoehlsen> furthermore
if you enable the options Limit AoA and Destroy on no Control - it
will execute the abort action group once the triggers are met
L251[09:31:04] <APlayer> EricPoehlsen: Are
you, by chance, looking for small modlet ideas to practice
modding?
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L254[09:32:13] <EricPoehlsen> oh I got
some Ideas - I have already done some minecraft modding a while
back - I do some python coding every then and now
L255[09:32:22] <EricPoehlsen> but if you
have some ideas I am curious
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L258[09:32:45] <EricPoehlsen> currently I
am trying to get into the API - the documentation is a little
sparse
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L261[09:34:23] <APlayer> I was once trying
to make a mod that would create a more realistic fuel flow model.
It was supposed to be used with KSP's stock "restricted fuel
crossfeed" function, and in the VAB would allow you to install
"piping" per part, at a small fixed cost and mass
addition, which would allow fuel crossfeed through that part.
L262[09:34:44] <APlayer> I miserably
failed at it, though
L263[09:35:32] <APlayer> The lack of
documentation is actually what's keeping me from attempting KSP
modding once again
L264[09:36:01] <EricPoehlsen> oh I thought
I get into it in four small steps
L265[09:36:05] <EricPoehlsen> * Auto
Destruct Mod
L266[09:36:15] <EricPoehlsen> * Tourism
Science Mod
L267[09:36:24] <EricPoehlsen> * Balanced
Jump Drive Mod
L268[09:36:32] <EricPoehlsen> * Balanced
Jump Gate Mod
L269[09:36:40] <ve2dmn> I still have my
own unfinished mod
L270[09:36:49] <EricPoehlsen> :D the last
two might be a little ambitious
L271[09:37:23] <EricPoehlsen> especially
the last one might be quiet Kraken teasing
L272[09:37:37] <ve2dmn> I could never
figure out how to create an asteroid on a collision course with KSC
with 1 year of warning to do something
L273[09:38:07] <EricPoehlsen> oh that
sounds not trivial ...
L274[09:38:18] <APlayer> Maths,
definitely
L275[09:38:31] <ve2dmn> It *IS* trivial...
except the Atmosphere part
L276[09:38:42] <APlayer> Trajectories
mod
L277[09:38:44] <ve2dmn> the rest is mostly
math
L278[09:39:01] <ve2dmn> yeah, but I can't
write a mod depending on a mod :/
L279[09:39:06] <EricPoehlsen> hmm
L280[09:39:21] <APlayer> You may have a
glimpse at the code to get how it calculates the atmo part
L281[09:39:24] <EricPoehlsen> what about a
very steep entry trajectory
L282[09:40:09] <APlayer> It uses stock KSP
built in maths to get the aero properties, IIRC, and simulates the
trajectory using some integrator
L283[09:40:26] <EricPoehlsen> so that it
happens around sunrise or sunset and becomes a direct death from
above
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L286[09:42:09] <APlayer> EricPoehlsen:
Anyway, if you ever feel like implementing something of the sort I
mentioned, or find the time to give me some pointers regarding how
to do it myself, that would be greatly appreciated
L287[09:43:45] <APlayer> ve2dmn: Also, not
to be a spoilsport, but the sort of mod you named sounds, TBH, like
a lot of maths spent on a rather one-sided thing. I mean,
deflecting asteroids is not really the thing one would do too many
times in a game
L288[09:44:11] <ve2dmn> no, The point was
just to generate contracts.
L289[09:44:19] <APlayer> Perhaps it could
be spiffed up to involve more interesting things that add
replay-ability?
L290[09:44:42] <ve2dmn> If you accept it,
it's a do-or-die situation: earn 100 Reputation, or lose 9000
L291[09:44:47] <APlayer> Perhaps asteroid
sample return, asteroid Mun orbit redirect, asteroid landing?
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L293[09:45:36] <EricPoehlsen> I think the
replay fun of my first mod is also pretty limited - except you can
use it to dispose of large boosters that might fall back onto the
KSC on very heavy launch vehicles
L294[09:46:05] <Althego> so, zuma was
successful, whatever it was
L295[09:46:18] <Althego> one would think
that landing those rockets is easy :)
L296[09:46:32] <EricPoehlsen> what
rockets?
L297[09:46:37] <Althego> spacex
rockets
L298[09:46:41] <EricPoehlsen> the falcon
first stage
L299[09:46:46] <Althego> where do they put
those?
L300[09:47:09] <ve2dmn> Where they
belong
L301[09:47:10] <Althego> the last picture
i saw, was an almost full building with 4 rockets or
soemthing
L302[09:49:30] <ve2dmn> Althego: it's not
like they have a ton of those first stage boosters
L303[09:49:37] <Althego> they have
L304[09:49:39] <Althego> like 10 or
so
L306[09:50:41] <APlayer> :P
L307[09:51:44] <Althego> wait, tess is
launched on a falcon
L308[09:52:00] <Althego> i hope for a
double success
L309[09:52:07] <Althego> i mean recovery
and tess
L310[09:52:28] <Althego> if kepler gave us
several thousand candidates, tess will give a lot more
L311[09:52:47] <APlayer> I hope some
engineer smuggles a teapot on board
L312[09:52:51] <APlayer> Boy, do I
hope
L313[09:53:04] <Althego> make it a 3d
studio teapot :)
L314[09:53:17] <madmerlyn> does the spaceX
landing drone mod give you 100% recovery if you land on it?
L315[09:53:20] <APlayer> Make it Elon's
Teapot
L316[09:53:38] <Althego> no, the
teapot
L317[09:53:40] <APlayer> madmerlyn: No
idea, but I don't think it would make sense
L319[09:54:13] <madmerlyn> well it's KSP
not reality, 100% recovery same as landing on the launchpad would
make sense IMO
L321[09:55:53] <Truga> the best
teapot
L322[09:56:10] <Althego> i know that
L323[09:56:12] <ve2dmn> no, the OpenGL
teapot is the best Teapot :P
L324[09:56:17] <Althego> but it has to be
THE teapot
L325[09:56:59] <APlayer> But we are
talking about space teapots
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L327[09:57:24] <Truga> opengl teapot is
good, and possibly even the exact same shape as russel's but
russel's is the best.
L328[09:58:53] <ve2dmn> I wonder what
space tea would taste like
L329[09:59:09] <ve2dmn> probably, like
most thing on the ISS, not much
L330[09:59:23] <madmerlyn> I dunno
L331[09:59:28] <madmerlyn> tea is already
dried out and shelf stable
L332[09:59:33] <madmerlyn> and they have
hot water
L333[09:59:50] <madmerlyn> I imagine
making a good cup of tea on the ISS is not difficult
L334[09:59:54] <kuzetsa> pfff
L335[09:59:58] <APlayer> I imagine it
would not mix
L336[10:00:05] <kuzetsa> instant tea
powder is required for ... yeah
L337[10:00:05] <ve2dmn> the shelf life is
less an issue in this case then the lack of gravity
L338[10:00:21] <kuzetsa> if you can't
combine water + instant flavorant, it's rubbish
L339[10:00:24] <ve2dmn> you can't make
good mixes in Microgravity
L340[10:00:27] <APlayer> No convection, no
easy container to mix tea and water, not even an easy container to
drink hot liquids
L341[10:00:36] <kuzetsa> plus tea leaves
for waste is extra mass
L342[10:00:52] <madmerlyn> do they not
have yetis with tumblers in them? :P
L343[10:01:04] <kuzetsa> o.o
L344[10:01:21] <APlayer> They have a bunch
of Russel's Teapots hidden on the ISS
L345[10:01:53] <APlayer> And you see, the
teapots Russel made are well suited for use in space
L346[10:02:08] <ve2dmn> One thing is for
sure, if make a cup of tea on the ISS, it will not be an
ISO-compliant Tea.
L347[10:02:16] *
kuzetsa facepalms
L348[10:02:17] <madmerlyn> the used
teabags could easily go in with the solid waste, it's not going to
produce a lot of mass unless they're drinking an inordinate amount
though.
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L350[10:02:27] <kuzetsa> ve2dmn: that
standard angers me TBH
L352[10:02:43] <kuzetsa> I'm aware
L353[10:03:15] <ve2dmn> it's not for lack
of trying, but the lack of gravity makes it EXTRA hard.
L354[10:03:57] <kuzetsa> "after
water, tea is the most common beverage on earth" - ISO
standard 3103 still infuriates me
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L356[10:04:07] <ve2dmn> Although a
british-made module for the ISS would probably include a hot-water
device specifically for making a mixture similar but not quite
entirely unlike tea
L357[10:06:32] <EricPoehlsen> Ah I think I
found the solution ... Testing - looks like Squad put the lookup
into their Attribute Methods
L358[10:06:52] <kuzetsa> I suppose once
someone brings a thing up to the station, upkeep mass for ongoing
use is a smaller investment in payload
L359[10:06:59] <ve2dmn> kuzetsa: can you
explain your frustrations with ISO 3103?
L360[10:07:08] <kuzetsa> ve2dmn:
[expletive deleted] tea snobs
L361[10:07:52] <kuzetsa> snobbery in
general
L362[10:07:58] <EricPoehlsen> there was a
really great ISS Tour video I have seen some time ago
L363[10:08:15] <ve2dmn> I asked the
question elsewheres and got: "ISO 3103 was written by a bunch
of pretentious [explosives deleted] who have no idea what they're
talking about."
L364[10:08:29] <kuzetsa> explosives?
L365[10:08:41] <ve2dmn> typo. I mean
Expletive
L366[10:08:53] <kuzetsa> I wonder if
autocorrect "helped"
L367[10:09:05] <ve2dmn> no. 3h of sleep
helped
L368[10:09:09] <kuzetsa> heh nice
L369[10:09:23] <kuzetsa> I had a pretty
awful issue with communication this morning before my coffee
L370[10:09:31] <kuzetsa> not sure what I
did - the brainfog was potent tho
L371[10:09:40] <ve2dmn> I had 12h per
night for 3 days in a row... and I could not sleep the 1 night
before going back to work
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L373[10:10:43] <kuzetsa> oh my. this
morning's ... let's pretend I didn't have any lapse of focus at
all. I'm not admitting to that O_O
L374[10:11:29] <madmerlyn> couldn't you
make tea similarly to coffee, instead of letting it sit in the hot
water just push the water through it like a filter
L375[10:11:44] <madmerlyn> would be better
than the instant mix
L376[10:13:11] <kuzetsa> yes
L377[10:13:23] <kuzetsa> could've sworn
brewed coffee is usually skipped in space though
L378[10:13:30] <kuzetsa> due to being less
mass efficient
L379[10:13:56] <kuzetsa> in food service,
gravity-brewed tea is a thing in the 'states
L380[10:14:11] <kuzetsa> not sure if
commonwealth countries consider it unthinkable or not
::shrug::
L381[10:14:40] <kuzetsa> pressure fed is
nearly the same in principle, I think
L382[10:15:16] <madmerlyn> hot water picks
up oils and chemicals as it passes through, can't see how gravity
would be different in that respect, agree.
L384[10:16:26] <kuzetsa> "good
enough" [tm]
L385[10:16:48] <kuzetsa> I wouldn't be
surprised if it's already up there / in service by now - that's
from 2014
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L390[10:27:02] <ve2dmn> of course, the
first to try the espresso machine is the italian :D
L391[10:27:03] <Althego> what is this,
space microwave?
L392[10:27:23] <Althego> coffee?
L393[10:27:31] <Althego> drug
addicts
L395[10:28:07] <ve2dmn> The experiment
description says the machine can make 'A taste of home'
L396[10:28:12] <Althego> lol
L397[10:28:21] <Althego> too long and you
dont fly
L398[10:28:33] <Truga> I knew you guys
would appreciate this
L399[10:32:06] <ve2dmn> Truga: I don't
think the CYUL TAF has even been short enough according to that
rule :/
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L401[10:33:07] <ve2dmn> it's currently 356
chars
L402[10:33:53] <Truga> don't fly out of
cyul then :D
L403[10:41:08] <Fluburtur> I accidentally
flew my canadair
L404[10:41:35] <Fluburtur> I installed
deflector plates and did some taxi test and it worked perfectly
well, it can slide on water very fast
L405[10:41:46] <Fluburtur> but at one
point it took off to about 20cm over the water
L406[10:41:56] <Fluburtur> at least I know
it has enough power to fly
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L408[10:43:18] <Fluburtur> also there was
a familly of swans but they were cool with me
L409[10:43:23] <Fluburtur> didn't like the
plane however
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L413[10:46:42] <EricPoehlsen> oh it works
beautifully now I need to finish the part itself to replace the
stock battery model I am currently using
L414[10:46:43] <Mat2ch> Uh, where did the
plane go in the last picture?
L415[10:46:58] <Fluburtur> I actually took
it before I puit the plane in the water
L416[10:47:14] <Fluburtur> some of them
tried to chase it but decided to go hang out with the gooses
L417[10:47:17] <Mat2ch> Well, swans can be
very aggressive. :D
L418[10:47:24] <Fluburtur> I know
L419[10:47:39] <Fluburtur> but I was like
2 meters away from them and they were pretty cool with that
L420[10:48:18] <Mat2ch> as long as you
don't chase them...
L421[10:48:25] <Mat2ch> also the younger
birds look almost mature
L422[10:48:32] <Fluburtur> I thought about
chasing them
L423[10:48:39] <Fluburtur> but I didn't
have anyone with me to take pictures
L424[10:48:43] <Fluburtur> yeah some were
kinda young
L426[10:49:49] <Fluburtur> at least the
water deflectors work so im happy
L427[10:49:56] <Fluburtur> I just need to
build better ones now
L430[10:51:22] <kmath_> YouTube - Music
Box, Harp & Hammered Dulcimer
L431[10:51:35] <Fluburtur> just as we were
saying that he didn't post in quite a while
L432[10:53:26] <Mat2ch> yeah :)
L433[10:54:23] <ve2dmn> Truga: btw, Nav
Canada has a 'plain language' option in case you can't read
METAR/TAF
L434[10:57:15] <Fluburtur> well I should
be able to go pick up my helicopter at the start of february
L436[10:57:42] <kmath_> YouTube -
Wintergrips - Takyon Machine (music instrument using a very angry
man)
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L439[10:59:06] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: augh
augh augh
L440[10:59:22] <Mat2ch> But I expected
hardbass or dubstep. :D
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L448[11:06:58] <Fluburtur> bwoop
transit
L450[11:08:00] <ve2dmn> This is going to
help a LOT in debugging
L451[11:08:52] <TheKosmonaut> Anyone else
catch the new trek?
L452[11:09:00] <TheKosmonaut> It was
pretty good.
L453[11:09:16] <TheKosmonaut> Frakes did a
great job
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L455[11:10:25] <ve2dmn> ho! There's also a
QUICKSAVETO(name) function
L456[11:10:38] <ve2dmn> I never read the
MISC section in the kOS docs before...
L457[11:10:38] <Fluburtur> there is a new
one?
L458[11:12:03] <TheKosmonaut> Fluburtur:
they resumed the series today
L459[11:12:11] <TheKosmonaut> Err.
Yesterday I suppose
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L461[11:20:45] <madmerlyn> Facility calls
me 2 weeks ago "since we changed our lines to AT&T faxing
doesn't work" response: "call AT&T"
L462[11:21:17] <madmerlyn> today facility
opens ticket "faxing doesn't work, fax machine company says
it's not a problem on their end." response: "has AT&T
been out there to look at it?"
L463[11:21:43] <Fluburtur> wooo I finally
have a date of when I will go get my heli
L464[11:22:09] <Althego> hehehe
L465[11:22:22] <Althego> lol i thought you
have a date
L466[11:22:25] <Fluburtur> been waiting
for only 6 months
L467[11:22:29] <Fluburtur> nah
L468[11:22:35] <Fluburtur> love can
wait
L469[11:22:38] <Fluburtur> I want
heli
L470[11:22:43] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: it
sounds like the sort of thing that will come back in 3 days
L471[11:23:06] <Fluburtur> now, can I
convince my dad to drive all the way to germany to Mat2ch
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L473[11:23:16] <madmerlyn> I mean,
logically.. if the fax machines all worked before you changed phone
line providers, and then they all quit working afterwards..
L474[11:23:22] <madmerlyn> the problem
probably isn't the fax machines themselves
L475[11:23:34] <madmerlyn> but hey, don't
listen to the IT guy when he says CALL AT&T
L476[11:23:46] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: no, you
drive. :D
L477[11:24:05] <Fluburtur> "grandma
can I take the car real quick?"
L478[11:24:08] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: I used
to work in tech support. I know the feeling
L479[11:24:23] <madmerlyn> you know what
it is, the Receptionist at that facility doesn't want to wait on
hold for 30 minutes and instead wants the IT guy to do it instead
of addressing the multitudinous problems at the other 41 facilities
which is his job
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L481[11:25:24] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: just
like that. :D
L482[11:25:40] <Fluburtur> wonder how far
away you live
L483[11:26:04] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: In my
current job I still have to deal with some people who have 'tech'
job, but somehow can't solve any tech problems themsleves
L484[11:26:41] <Mat2ch> around 600 km to
Paris from here
L485[11:26:42] <Althego> lol fax
L486[11:27:03] <Fluburtur> eh that's quite
a drive
L487[11:27:14] <madmerlyn> I mean it's
clearly a phone line problem, which is NOT my department, and I
don't have time to sit on hold for 30 minutes with AT&T for an
issue that is not affecting direct operations
L488[11:27:34] <madmerlyn> they have a
receptionist whose job quite literally is talking to people on the
phone
L489[11:27:46] <madmerlyn> call AT&T
people. Do your job.
L490[11:27:57] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: well,
that's what I drive to get to the sea...
L491[11:28:06] <ve2dmn> I'm the sysadmin.
People come see me when their computer bluescreen even though we
have onsite techs you can call
L492[11:28:10] <Mat2ch> also I still want
to learn some French and come over
L493[11:28:15] <Mat2ch> I've never been in
Paris
L494[11:28:20] <ve2dmn> And when I refuse
to help them, I'm "Not doing my job"
L495[11:28:23] <Fluburtur> we drive like
300km to go to the mountain house
L496[11:28:34] <Fluburtur> and I sleep
during half of it
L497[11:28:58] <Mat2ch> I know people who
drive around 1000 km on a regular basis
L498[11:29:10] <Mat2ch> not truckers
L499[11:29:18] <Fluburtur> how can they do
that
L500[11:29:32] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: just be
in North America
L501[11:29:47] <Fluburtur> I guess
L502[11:30:02] <Fluburtur> but don't you
have like trains or something?
L503[11:30:10] <ve2dmn> nope
L504[11:30:27] <ve2dmn> you either drive
or fly
L505[11:30:44] <Fluburtur> uh
L506[11:30:45] <Mat2ch> There are trains.
But they go to fast over bridges
L507[11:30:56] <Fluburtur> lel
L508[11:31:11] <Mat2ch> There's a reason
why Elon is talking about hyperloop
L509[11:31:18] <umaxtu> I could take the
Train to Chicago if I wanted but I'd have to get up super
early
L510[11:31:27] <Fluburtur> last two times
I heard of train accidents in germany it was when two trains were
using a single line
L511[11:31:32] <Fluburtur> in opposite
directions
L512[11:31:39] <Mat2ch> umaxtu: uh, just
don't go to sleep and sleep on the train :D
L513[11:31:56] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: it take
me 2 days to get From Montreal to Boston by train... or a 5h
drive
L514[11:32:01] <Mat2ch> yeah. The
controller was playing games on his smartphone or
something...
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L516[11:32:16] <Fluburtur> but apparently
the whole railroad infrastructure in france is half crap too
L517[11:32:28] <Mat2ch> no, you meant
Germany
L518[11:32:34] <Mat2ch> where all
infrastructure is crap now
L519[11:32:54] <Mat2ch> remember the great
Autobahn? Full of bumps
L520[11:32:59] <Fluburtur> I htought
germany was an ok country
L521[11:32:59] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: you
still have trains faster then 80km/h
L522[11:33:06] <Fluburtur> true
L523[11:33:26] <madmerlyn> ve2dmn what's
funny is before they switched to AT&T they had a similar
problem with Windstream, and I told them from day 1, get the
Windstream guy and the Fax machine guy there at the same time so
they can't blame it on each other
L524[11:33:32] <Mat2ch> ok, some trains go
350 (?) km/h here
L525[11:33:40] <madmerlyn> took them 2
months to do that, they kept calling 1 or the other
L526[11:33:47] <Mat2ch> but they have to
slow down often, so it's not worth anything
L527[11:33:54] <Fluburtur> I think the
train record in france is like 480kph
L528[11:34:14] <Fluburtur> also the world
rail record because maglevs are cheating
L529[11:34:26] <Fluburtur> but I think the
train I usually take is like 150kph at most
L530[11:34:56] <Mat2ch> The best part of
the TGV was, when I walked through our main train station here and
looked at it the first time in real life
L531[11:35:17] <Fluburtur> yeah they look
nice
L532[11:35:18] <ve2dmn> I rode the
Shinkansen. It was nice
L533[11:35:24] <Mat2ch> It was somehow
weird. I didn't know there was a direct route now, so I stood there
and asked myself, what it's doing there
L534[11:35:28] <Fluburtur> I prefer the
one with the angular windows
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L536[11:36:20] <ve2dmn> I wish we had
overnight trains
L537[11:36:42] <ve2dmn> I would love to go
to bed in Montreal and Wake up in NYC the next morning
L538[11:38:14] <Mat2ch> you should talk to
the ÖBB, the austrian railway company. They're trying to get the
whole overnight train market in their hands in Europe. Maybe
they'll expand ;)
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L542[12:03:06] <Deddly> I'm feeling left
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L544[12:03:14] <Fluburtur> why?
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L546[12:03:19] <Dedd2ly> That's
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L547[12:03:22] <Fluburtur> lel
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L551[12:05:29] <Deddly> Noooooooooo
L552[12:05:52] <Mat2ch> you have already
two ds!
L553[12:06:30] <Deddly>
Grumblegrumble
L554[12:07:54] <Fluburtur> Deddly have you
seen my canadair?
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L556[12:08:10] <Deddly> I haven't
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L560[12:08:43] <Dedd2ly> yay
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L564[12:16:24] <kmath_> YouTube - Self
colour changing 3W LEDs.
L565[12:17:14] <Althego> doesnt sound like
scott to me
L566[12:18:20] <Fluburtur> Draconiator did
you rea mymessage yesterday?
L567[12:18:42] <Draconiator> I did get
your message.
L568[12:18:48] <Dedd2ly> Fluburtur, that's
really cool! Have you tried a water takeoff/landing yet?
L569[12:18:57] <Fluburtur> so waht did you
think?
L570[12:19:16] <Fluburtur> Dedd2ly I was
doing some fast taxi test earlier and it accidentally got off the
water
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L573[12:19:39] <kmath_> YouTube - canadair
water taxi test
L574[12:19:49] <Fluburtur> that's from
yesterday before I did some tweaks
L575[12:20:05] <Deddly> Fluburtur, don't
the floats on the wing tips cause asymmetric drag in the water if
it's not exactly straight?
L576[12:20:14] <Fluburtur> nah
L577[12:20:22] <Fluburtur> they slide over
the water quite easily
L578[12:20:35] <Fluburtur> and I have
differential thrust so ground/water handling is very good
L579[12:21:35] <Deddly> Watching that
video now
L580[12:22:28] <Deddly> Camera shake
making me dizzy ;)
L581[12:22:34] <Fluburtur> yeah
L582[12:22:39] <Fluburtur> my friend was
filming
L583[12:22:45] <Deddly> Youtube has
stabilisation, you should use it ;)
L584[12:22:53] <Fluburtur> next time I
will get the big handle so it's more stable
L585[12:23:04] <Fluburtur> youtube
stabilisation is crap
L586[12:23:20] <Fluburtur> I was like
"I could sue the warp stabilisation in premiere" but it
takes forever
L587[12:23:29] <Fluburtur> and this is
unlisted so not ma,ny people will see it
L588[12:23:33] <Fluburtur> the proper
video will be better
L590[12:24:14] <kmath_> YouTube - KSP
Spiritwolf (S1E13) - The Battle for Laythe
L591[12:24:35] <ve2dmn> Mat2ch: Sorry, In
the US and Canada, there is only 1 company per country
L592[12:24:41] <Deddly> Well it looks
really great, Fluburtur. A shame the bow wave catches the props,
but no big deal I guess
L593[12:24:45] <Fluburtur> if it's written
and prepared, yeah
L594[12:24:50] <ve2dmn> No trains beside
ViaRail and Amtrak
L595[12:25:01] <Fluburtur> in the last
pics of the imgur album you can see I added water deflectors
L596[12:25:09] <Fluburtur> and it worked
well
L597[12:25:12] <Deddly> Draconiator, aaw,
I miss Macey Dean
L598[12:25:17] <Fluburtur> I just need to
make them better
L599[12:25:19] <Deddly> Fluburtur, ah,
cool
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L603[12:29:42] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn: one
company in the whole country or per state? :D
L604[12:29:50] <Mat2ch> oh man
L605[12:30:00] <ve2dmn> Mat2ch: Amtrak for
the US, ViaRail for Canada
L606[12:30:12] <ve2dmn> And both run a lot
of unprofitable runs
L607[12:30:31] <Mat2ch> the Bahn here does
this, too, but they have to...
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L609[12:31:34] <ve2dmn> If Amtrak ran only
the profitable runs, the only trains would run in the Bos-Ny-Was
corridor along with Chicago, Montreal and Toronto.
L610[12:33:16] <ve2dmn> Wendover
Production on youtube has videos on the subject of US and
trains
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L613[12:38:17] <ve2dmn> (also, Wendover is
like, half my age. What have I do with my life???)
L614[12:38:29] *
ve2dmn looks at his steam history
L615[12:38:33] <ve2dmn> Nevermind...
L616[12:54:13] <iamfishhead1> Wendover
Productions is pretty great
L617[12:56:23] <Fluburtur> Draconiator im
gonna take a shower then maybe we can think about my idea
L618[12:56:32] <APlayer> OK, opinions:
Should I attempt launching KSP with a temporary 256 MB VRAM?
L619[12:56:41] <APlayer> GPU*
L620[12:58:10] <ve2dmn> APlayer: you can
try...
L621[12:58:38] <APlayer> It won't break
things anyway, will it? (I am kind of afraid)
L622[12:58:53] <ve2dmn> worse case: it
won't run
L623[12:59:16] <APlayer> Alrighty
L624[13:00:25] <APlayer> If I pay the
unicorns with leprechaun gold, perhaps they will let me use
Stonehenge to summon some god and he will bless me with working
KSP
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L626[13:01:07] <ve2dmn> or you could hope
that software rendering is still a thing
L627[13:01:11] <APlayer> Well, it's
loading
L628[13:01:31] <APlayer> Software
rendering? (Not the graphics specialist)
L629[13:05:22] <APlayer> Hey, nothing
crashed yet!
L630[13:05:42] <APlayer> The loading bar
is half full, definitely :P
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L633[13:08:26] *
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the text fade out at approx. 3-4 FPS, and decides to close KSP
again
L634[13:08:48] <APlayer> No KSP for now,
then
L635[13:09:47] <APlayer> Back to the
leprechaun gold option, perhaps I could buy a better GPU with
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L637[13:13:41] <Zarthus> nah you
can't
L638[13:13:46] <Zarthus> GPU prices have
spiked
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L640[13:16:15] <umaxtu> APlayer, I've got
a 650ti sitting around doing nothing. I'll sell it to you for
$3,000,000
L641[13:16:54] *
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return
L642[13:16:57] <APlayer> Deal!
L643[13:17:45] <umaxtu> lol
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L649[13:28:06] <Fluburtur> I just had the
best idea
L650[13:28:09] <Fluburtur> space
metal
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L652[13:28:20] <Fluburtur> it's regular
metal but the lyrics is space nerd stuff
L653[13:28:30] <Fluburtur> like the
equation for delta v or ksp stuff
L654[13:28:42] <Fluburtur> "get 17
kerbals in orbiiiiit"
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L656[13:32:48] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: that
already exist in some form or another
L657[13:33:02] <Fluburtur> yeah I
guess
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L659[13:33:09] <Fluburtur> but im very bad
at writting lyrics
L660[13:33:13] <Fluburtur> so this could
be fun
L661[13:33:21] <Fluburtur> gonna talka
bout that with my drummer friend
L662[13:34:37] <ve2dmn> Not Metal, but
plenty of nerdy songs around. I'm sure more Metal would be a good
thing
L663[13:35:01] <Fluburtur> well im kinda
into softer stuff now
L664[13:35:09] <Fluburtur> like stoner
rock
L665[13:35:17] <ve2dmn> That's a
thing?
L666[13:35:22] <Fluburtur> I guess nerd
stuff int eh qotsa style would be good
L668[13:35:36] <kmath_> YouTube - Strange
Charm: A Song about Quarks
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L675[14:20:18] <Althego> hah wintergatan
video
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L679[14:36:24] <ve2dmn> It got quiet all
of a sudden
L680[14:36:50] <madmerlyn> oh hi
L681[14:36:53] <Althego> no sound in
space
L682[14:36:56] <madmerlyn> I have come to
break the quiet
L683[14:36:58] <madmerlyn> s'broke
L684[14:37:20] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: did you
see the 'vector draw' functions in kOS?
L685[14:40:33] <ve2dmn> I'm tend to do a
series of blog post using those vectoring things to explain orbit
mechanics
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L687[14:45:10] <madmerlyn> nah
L688[14:45:19] <madmerlyn> I still have a
lot of familiarity with kOS to develop heh
L689[14:45:37] <ve2dmn> (Explain them to
me mostly)
L690[14:46:40] <ve2dmn> It was fun trying
to explain 'Meltdown' and 'Spectre' to my boss...
L691[14:49:11] <Althego> hehe
L693[14:49:42] <kmath_> YouTube - Meltdown
& Spectre - The Worst CPU Bug Ever?
L694[14:49:52] <ve2dmn> It's a trolleybus.
Full of hammer. Rolling down the hill.
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L696[14:50:23] <ve2dmn> But it's the
phatom Trolleybus, full of hammers you need to worry about.
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L698[14:51:49] <madmerlyn> I update my
linux boxes at home regularly, and arch is bleeding edge
L699[14:52:05] <madmerlyn> it's about as
much security as I can have against those kind of things
L700[14:52:26] <madmerlyn> worrying beyond
that, for what I've got going on at home, is silly
L701[14:52:36] <madmerlyn> and at work, I
let my boss worry about that stuff ha
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L703[14:52:47] <ve2dmn> We have something
working for us in all these case: most of our data is already
available on the website. I work in Open Access
L704[14:53:29] <ve2dmn> So they can
steal.... public information?
L705[14:54:26] <ve2dmn> We WANT them to do
that, actually.
L706[14:55:33] <Mathuin> Yeah, but, like,
now they can break in and change that information.
L707[14:55:36] <madmerlyn> yes, we need to
archive a lot of that information so it doesn't get censored by
..nevermind this is not the channel ffor that :P
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L709[14:57:13] <ve2dmn> Mathuin: I doubt
it. That's not what this vulnerability is about
L710[15:00:29] <ve2dmn> It's actually
suprising the number of people who tries to download all our PDF
only to put the files on a giant archive 'for sale'
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L712[15:02:26] <ve2dmn> I guess it's kind
of like the people who sell Firefox
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L716[15:22:01] <Mathuin> Value added, I
guess.
L717[15:22:19] <Mathuin> Once upon a time
it made sense to sell CDROMs of freely downloadable content.
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L719[15:22:48] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
L720[15:22:55] <Mathuin> Walnut Creek made
it a business.
L721[15:22:56] <madmerlyn> because people
had/have terrible internets Mathuin
L722[15:23:04] <madmerlyn> yo novy
L723[15:23:05] *
Mathuin ended up living next door in Pleasant Hill.
L724[15:23:31] <Mathuin> Virginia Tech's
Interactive Design and Development distributed a CDROM every month,
I have one from Dec 1990.
L725[15:23:59] <madmerlyn> I used a lot of
AOL CDs as coasters, they weren't great coasters though
L726[15:24:08] <Mathuin> Perhaps after net
neutrality is destroyed, content will be distributed again on
physical media.
L727[15:24:25] <madmerlyn> I was sad when
they started using CDs instead of diskettes, I could put tape over
the RW hole on diskettes and use them for other things
L728[15:24:28] <ve2dmn> No, I mean like
selling a download version of firefox for 25$
L729[15:24:59] <madmerlyn> there was
always a diskette in my monthly copy of Wizard magazine
L730[15:25:10] <Mathuin> For me it was
Compute's Gazette.
L731[15:25:13] <madmerlyn> apparently AOL
was of the opinion that comic nerds also liked internet
L732[15:25:32] <madmerlyn> who am I
kidding, they mailed EVERYONE disks for years lol
L733[15:25:58] <madmerlyn> Wizard probably
went along with it because AOL offered to put all their magazines
in protective plastic for free
L734[15:26:35] <ve2dmn> madmerlyn: they
still have some people paying AOL for dial-up
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L737[15:28:05] <ve2dmn> But seriously,
I've seen people trying to sell our free stuff. The only thing they
did was download all the free PDF they found everywere and they are
selling a giant downloadable 'zip' for 25USD
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L740[15:30:02] <ve2dmn> Or scientific
'publications' that will simply print out anything and simply want
300 USD from you
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L742[15:41:18] <SnoopJeDi> 'scientific'
'publications'
L743[15:42:31] <madmerlyn>
"words"
L744[15:42:38] <Fluburtur> so, the water
deflectors of my canadair work but they are crap so I need to make
better ones that are supposed to last
L745[15:42:45] <Fluburtur> because
cardboard and tape is eh
L746[15:44:57] <Fluburtur> I guess tape
folded on itself can work?
L747[15:48:32] <madmerlyn> cardboard would
be alright if you covered it in something hydrophobic I would
imagine
L748[15:49:16] <Fluburtur> well I usually
cover it in fiber tape but water always manage to get inside
L749[15:49:25] <madmerlyn> or you could go
with something plastic, could you cut credit cards to fit your
needs?
L750[15:49:26] <Fluburtur> but there is
usually enough tape for it to stay rigid
L751[15:49:34] <Fluburtur> plastic is a
good idea actually
L752[15:49:39] <Fluburtur> I have some
candy boxes
L753[15:49:47] <Fluburtur> I was thinking
about aluminium at first
L754[15:49:51] <Fluburtur> thanks for the
idea
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L759[16:01:24] <Fluburtur> when I think
about it, I don't have a real name for this plane
L760[16:01:34] <Fluburtur> maybe transit
could help
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L762[16:02:43] <madmerlyn>
TrainplaneMk1
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L764[16:02:56] <Fluburtur> I was thinking
something like super penguin
L765[16:03:13] <Fluburtur> french peoples
like to put animal names on aircrafts
L766[16:03:18] <Fluburtur> liek look at
the helicopters
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L782[16:52:37] <Fluburtur> crap madmerlyn
left
L784[16:52:47] <kmath_> Fluburtur: I'll
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L786[16:58:52] <Fluburtur> should I charge
my battery to have fun in the water again tomorrow?
L787[16:58:57] <Fluburtur> or to fly one
of my flying wings
L788[16:59:07] <Fluburtur> I need to bind
the big one to my friend's radio
L789[16:59:11] <ve2dmn> why not
both?
L790[16:59:33] <Fluburtur> I guess I could
do both but I might not have enough time
L791[16:59:59] <Fluburtur> I planned to do
combat with my friend next weekend so I need to bind the wing to
his radio and trim it
L792[17:00:47] <Fluburtur> "i want a
shirt that says “eat or die” because at first it sounds rebellious
but its just a reminder
L793[17:00:47] <Fluburtur> "
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L795[17:03:30] <ve2dmn> It seems that
shirt already exist
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L821[20:30:45] <AASRaptor> "remember
that while your characters do not need to eat, you do. We don't
want to lose any dedicated players."
L822[20:31:08] <AASRaptor> (Baldur's Gate
2 loading screen)
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L824[20:36:44] <Oneiros> hi
L825[20:36:44] <Mod9000> Hello,
Oneiros
L826[20:36:49] *
Oneiros bops Mod9000
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L838[21:14:17] <MARS2018> Hello everyone I
got a question has ksp been updated
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L841[21:16:31] <technicalfool> MARS2018:
current KSP version is 1.3.1
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