L9[20:47:30] <lordcirth> Mathuin, it's best to put a Wait 0.1. or so in the loop

L10[20:56:22] <ConductorCat> :3

L15[21:35:46] <lordcirth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIASPc89Sgk

L16[21:35:46] <kmath> YouTube - The Future of Space Telescopes | Space Time

L20[22:04:39] <this_guy> Does anyone know if I can use a joystick with KSP that has a different range than what the game expects? e.g. joystick is -36000 fully left and 36000 is fully right, but KSP expects from 0-250 or something. Is there a way to change the range or something?

L21[22:05:08] <this_guy> I would really prefer this joystick to be compatible x.x

L23[22:18:58] <Iskierka> the values in windows calibration are not the values seen by unity

L24[22:19:41] <this_guy> dnf config-manager --add-repo=https://negativo17.org/repos/fedora-steam.repo

L25[22:19:49] <this_guy> woops wrong terminal sorry

L26[22:20:44] <this_guy> So should it work and I'm having a different issue than I think?

L27[22:20:45] <Iskierka> although linux may be messier

L28[22:21:16] <this_guy> Yeah I was hoping there might be a difference in the drivers and see if I get lucky for once.

L29[22:21:35] <this_guy> It has ran for me great on linux I just don't know how this joystick will work

L30[22:22:14] <ve2dmn> I didn't even know joystick could work

L31[22:26:57] <ve2dmn> I remember the days of flightstick.... now it's hard to find a good one. It's all just gamepads :/

L32[22:29:02] <this_guy> It's not just me? It seems like everything tends to center around gamepads now

L33[22:29:24] <ve2dmn> It's been that way for more then a decade

L34[22:30:23] <this_guy> Maybe it's just me getting really salty at console ports that were designed around the gamepad but require the kb/m.

L35[22:31:14] <ve2dmn> Nah. The PC gaming market is secondary

L36[22:33:24] <this_guy> So KSP is seeing what windows reports the joystick is doing and there might be a different issue?

L37[22:33:43] <ve2dmn> probably. It's Unity doing all the work

L38[22:33:54] <ve2dmn> Didn't know KSP supported Joysticks

L39[22:33:56] <this_guy> Everything works and I have the joystick configured in the options but in flight its pinned to one side while I'm centered

L40[22:40:40] <umaxtu> is it just in ksp or is it the same in other games?

L41[22:41:07] <this_guy> I can't confirm KSP is the only game I have that is joystick compatible x.x

L42[22:43:22] <umaxtu> you could take advantage of the Steam refund system to try something else

L43[22:44:23] <umaxtu> I realize thats not really helpful. sorry

L44[22:44:42] <this_guy> No worries I should test to see if it is KSP

L45[22:45:54] <Eclipser> unity is likely the problem source

L46[22:46:00] <Eclipser> unity doesn't work with my joystick either

L47[22:46:21] <ve2dmn> this_guy: https://itch.io/games/free/input-joystick/unity

L48[22:48:50] <Eclipser> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm2vW-PNeTY this guy has the same problem as me with my joystick in ksp (and other unity games)

L49[22:48:51] <kmath> YouTube - KSP - Joystick problems

L50[22:49:05] <this_guy> brb restarting to test it

L52[22:56:34] <Rokker> Supernovy: have I ever shown you my greatest work of art in hearts of iron

L53[22:56:51] <Supernovy> probably

L54[22:56:59] <Rokker> http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=766874314

L55[22:57:40] <Rokker> belgium never looked so nice

L56[22:58:13] <Supernovy> They were trying to grab Ypres.

L59[23:08:24] <this_guy> Ok back

L60[23:08:31] <JCB> likewise... c_C

L63[23:20:01] <JCB> aaaaaaaanyways

L69[23:44:10] <this_guy> Well as it turns out the default windows drive does work correctly

L70[23:44:45] <this_guy> The only problem is the keys conflict between the throttle controller and the joystick. I think I might be able to get the software that came with it to report different settings

L71[23:47:19] <umaxtu> I wonder how that happened

L72[23:48:12] <this_guy> The default windows drive assigns the buttons sequentially with a generic name so KSP sees both as the same thing. EG joystickbutton0

L73[23:49:36] <umaxtu> oh, these are two different pieces of hardware?

L74[23:51:42] <this_guy> Yep. And the software that came with it had the creative solution of tricking the OS into seeing them as one device and managing the settings itself. The only trouble is anything more advanced than basic configuring requires knowing some of the scripting language thats specific to this device

L75[23:52:35] <this_guy> I'm half temped to take the victory of the joystick and use my keyboard for buttons but I am going into computer science so..../sigh