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L11[00:43:57] <oren> I need a new kerbin
space station, to be based on large docking ports
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L16[01:05:05] <oren> running on monoprop
ion engines will make a direct moho insertion impossible so I will
do an eve flyby first
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L19[01:15:41] <bees> you always should do
eve flyby for moho
L20[01:16:05] <Althego> lot harder to do it
that way
L21[01:16:17] <bees> fixes atleast half
your inclination problems and also some part of dv problems
L22[01:16:24] <bees> and inclination
problems are terrifying
L23[01:16:51] <bees> and skipping a few
orbits is quick enough to not bother
L24[01:34:24] <taniwha> bees: inclination
problems don't exist if you arrange to meet Moho at your
AN/DN
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L56[03:41:55] <kmath> YouTube - How small a
hole can a mouse get through? Experiments.
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L59[04:13:38] <Mat2ch> I still dislike
mice
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L68[04:46:28] <Deddly> LOL
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L71[04:56:02] <Althego> printed t-shirts
are useless to me, 99.9% of the time there is something over it, so
invisible
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L74[05:10:41] <Deddly> A least - for 0.1%
of the time, you will be reminded to check yo stagin.
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L76[05:24:38] <GlassYuri> Deddly, if your
monitor is so reflective that you can read your t-shirt on a
cluttered VAB screen you have bigger issues than staging
L77[05:26:44] <Deddly> GlassYuri,
reflective screens are the bane of my life. I still can't
understand why most monistors and laptop screens come with a
reflective screen instead of the lovelt matte ones we used to
have
L78[05:26:56] <Deddly> monitors*
L79[05:27:06] <Deddly> lovely*
L80[05:27:15] <Deddly> Sorry for the typos
- can't see the screen
L81[05:27:29] <GlassYuri> clearly your
keyboard also has reflectivity issues
L82[05:29:05] <GlassYuri> btw anyone who
doesn't know about photogrammetry and structure from motion yet
should look it up
L83[05:29:15] <GlassYuri> it's completely
changed the way I waste my free time
L84[05:31:32] <Deddly> Looks interesting.
Is that the method they use in Google Earth to generate 3d
buildings?
L85[05:31:55] <GlassYuri> possibly
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L87[05:32:16] <GlassYuri> they may also use
laser scanners or a combination of different techniques
L88[05:34:21] <taniwha> it is used for
generating scenes in Vive's Destinations
L89[05:34:39] <Deddly> On that note, I have
to say that Bergen in Norway looks amazing in Google Earth.
L90[05:35:00] <taniwha> Google Earth in
Vive made me feel ill
L91[05:35:16] <taniwha> (when doing the
swoop between flying mode and walking mode)
L92[05:36:41] <Deddly> Destinations looks
great!
L93[05:39:39] <Deddly> Dont have VR
though
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L95[05:45:33] <GlassYuri> Deddly, I haven't
actually tried it on buildings yet, just trains
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L103[06:48:26] <SopaXorzTaker> how small
can a rocket delivering 10g of payload to 300km LEO be?
L104[06:48:41] <SopaXorzTaker> (assuming
newest technology, obviously)
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L110[06:56:26] <Fluburtur> does anyone
know the landing weight of a falcon 9?
L111[07:00:26] <Yukon> Google says ~14
tons
L112[07:00:40] <Fluburtur> that's not much
for something that big
L113[07:00:49] <Yukon> Well it's mostly
empty fuel tanks
L114[07:00:57] <Yukon> But I think 14 tons
is outdated info
L115[07:01:08] <Fluburtur> because a gy on
youtube why asking why the rocket was coming from the side during a
boat landing and thought it was reversed footage
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L117[07:01:29] <Fluburtur> I told him that
you don't want a rocket goign through your boat at mach 2 in case
the engine fails
L118[07:02:01] <Fluburtur> then he thought
that an empty rocket explosion does more damage than just
that
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L124[07:22:05] <Ezko_> Fluburtur: well if
it goes through the boat at mach 2 it won't be empty :P
L125[07:22:20] <Fluburtur> still worse
damage than just exploding on it
L126[07:22:32] <Ezko_> yeah of
course
L127[07:23:45] <Ezko_> 809 megajoules of
kinetic energy on a 14000kg thing going at mach 1
L128[07:45:54] <ve2dmn> " because a
gy on youtube why asking why the rocket was coming from the side
during a boat landing and thought it was reversed footage" He
though it was a conspiracy or just faked?
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L130[07:46:16] <Fluburtur> probably
both
L131[07:46:25] <ve2dmn> *sigh*
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L136[08:29:48] <kmath> YouTube - RC PLANE
CRASHES & MISHAPS COMPILATION # 2 - TBOBBORAP1 - 2017
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L138[08:32:49] <FltAdmVonSpiz> well I had
my Apollo 13, completely botched my attempt to send Valentina to
Eve, abort after a 2.5km/s excess speed flyby, return to Kerbin and
botch the aerobrake
L139[08:36:31] <FltAdmVonSpiz> so the
craft is flying off into interplanetary space with no propellant
left, I have her bail out and burn most of her propellant to slow
her escape, then launch a rescue rocket into an escape trajectory
to chase her down, get her aboard and then return to base
L140[08:36:38] <FltAdmVonSpiz> before she
leaves Kerbins SOI
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L143[08:37:43] <FltAdmVonSpiz> the moral
of this story is that I am very bad at this game
L144[08:38:57] <icefire> they're trying to
bring back the bus?
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L146[08:43:43] <BPlayer> FltAdmVonSpiz:
Trajectories mod for aerobraking
L147[08:43:50] <BPlayer> Manuever nodes
for burns
L148[08:43:51] <FltAdmVonSpiz> but I got
her back :D
L149[08:43:59] <FltAdmVonSpiz> yeah I
misread the phase angle calculator
L150[08:44:08] <BPlayer> If you are
careful, you should not both things with that. :D
L151[08:44:19] <FltAdmVonSpiz> and
launched without a confirmed encounter thinking I was just missing
it
L152[08:44:28] <FltAdmVonSpiz> launched 40
degrees to early
L153[08:44:41] <BPlayer> Well...
L154[08:44:48] <FltAdmVonSpiz> yeah,
nothing went right with this mission
L155[08:44:50] <FltAdmVonSpiz>
>.<
L156[08:45:41] <BPlayer> Happens, no
worries. This is KSP after all, and you did not just waste a few
billions of government money and don't have half the American
taxpayer nation angry at your office door :P
L158[08:51:08] <BPlayer> Not that I share
every KSP fail, but this one looked particularly funny
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L163[09:01:02] <FltAdmVonSpiz> i just
remember the brick wall atmosphere
L164[09:01:09] <FltAdmVonSpiz> when I
slammed into it at about 8km/s to see what would happen
L165[09:01:10] <FltAdmVonSpiz> at a 90
degree angle
L166[09:01:12] <FltAdmVonSpiz> 20+g
L167[09:05:48] <APlayer> brick wall
atmosphere?
L168[09:06:05] <FltAdmVonSpiz> the
atmosphere used to go from rather thick to vacuum at a hard
transition of about 37km
L169[09:06:29] <FltAdmVonSpiz> low orbit
was 40km
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L176[09:14:22] <TheKosmonaut> Ahhh
yes
L177[09:14:25] <TheKosmonaut> The good ol
days
L178[09:14:34] <TheKosmonaut> Also, bring
back the tarantula 'splosions
L179[09:14:42] <TheKosmonaut> and
crippling framerate issues
L180[09:14:56] <TheKosmonaut> KSP @60FPS
is just not real KSP
L181[09:15:02] <TheKosmonaut> Kerbal
Slideshow Program
L182[09:15:11] <BPlayer> I feel like I
missed a lot, by joining only at KSP 1.0.5
L183[09:15:18] <TheKosmonaut> Wow
L184[09:15:33] <TheKosmonaut> You're
probably the youngest Op in terms of KSP ownership
L185[09:16:36] <BPlayer> Heh, I
guess
L186[09:18:14] <BPlayer> But I found my
play style differs a lot from the one of many others. For example,
I do not enjoy too ridiculously-Kerbal-extreme-contraptions, but
very much love sleek, realistic-looking designs. Can't stand when
people launch without fairings, for example
L187[09:18:40] <BPlayer> Perhaps this is
an artifact of being a post-1.0 player
L188[09:19:14] <TheKosmonaut> I was pretyt
much always that, thanks to mods
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L190[09:20:21] <BPlayer> As for being
OP... Honestly, I am still not sure why I am one. From what I
picked up it's because I try to help even when unwanted, and I am
active at European times, i.e. when most others are not. So there
you go with lucky combinations. :P
L191[09:21:09] <BPlayer> Anyway, I've got
to go now, not sure when I'll be back. So, see you!
L192[09:21:34] <TheKosmonaut> Good
riddance
L193[09:21:37] <TheKosmonaut> I mean, have
a good day!
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L199[09:39:03] <ve2dmn> good morning
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L203[09:43:37] <kmath> YouTube - Halo Top
- Eat the Ice Cream
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L208[09:47:03] <Althego> hehe eat the ice
cream
L209[09:47:47] <ve2dmn> I see the
Stellaris 'rogue servitors' as basically this
L211[09:52:05] <ve2dmn> Speaking of
Stellaris, I am in a game, 2 months from assimilating the last
empire
L212[09:53:33] <whales> idk why i have
such a hard time getting into stellaris, as much as i love
eu4
L213[09:55:36] <ve2dmn> whales: And I
can't get into CK2...
L214[09:56:10] <whales> ive still never
given ck2 a proper chance, either
L215[09:56:31] <ve2dmn> I think the
barrier to entry in these games is quite high
L217[09:58:47] <ve2dmn> it's not even an
achivement
L218[10:04:35] <whales> lol
L219[10:04:56] <whales> ive got almost
1000 hrs in eu4 and ive never even TRIED for a wc
L220[10:08:14] <ve2dmn> whales: Stellaris
has valid "Wipe the galaxy of all Xenos" gameplay
L221[10:08:26] <ve2dmn> Or assimilate them
all, in the case of that screenshot
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L226[11:43:59] <nick> hello
L227[11:44:01] <Mod9000> Hello, nick
L228[11:44:22] ***
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L229[11:44:54] <Guest66569> just updated
KSP and now the game won't load because my mods aren't compatible
-.-
L230[11:45:05] <Guest66569> do i just have
to wait for the mods to all update too?
L231[11:45:38] <Alanonzander> ?!?
L232[11:45:47] <Alanonzander> Most mods
are already updated, just go re-download them
L233[11:46:50] <Guest66569> ah i see so i
need to look up the mods manually and then redownload them and
replace in gamedata folder?
L234[11:47:39] <Althego> or use ckan that
does this for you
L235[11:48:14] <Guest66569> ckan has been
giving me a lot of issues lately. seems to crash anytime i try
updating anything, no idea why
L236[11:52:05] <Guest66569> if i were to
ununstall Ckan would it remove all the mods i have in the gamedata
folder?
L237[11:52:16] <Guest66569> ckan it too
messed up to use i think i need to reinstall it
L238[11:52:25] <Guest66569> but don't want
to lose all the mods i have installed already
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L242[11:56:54] <nick> sorry it crashed,
anyway i was asking...
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L244[11:57:23] <Guest45287> if i uninstall
ckan and reinstall it will it remove all the mods i have
instalked?
L245[11:57:26] <Guest45287>
installed*
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L258[12:45:08] <kmath> YouTube - The Robot
That Shines a Laser in Your Eye
L259[12:45:24] <Althego> i think we have
sen that
L260[12:45:28] <Althego> yes this is
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L263[13:01:48] <Althego> hah new wolfie
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L307[15:35:41] <maltesh> Hmm.
L308[15:36:41] <maltesh> Didn't know an
iridum satellite could flare /twice/ within five minutes on the
same overhead pass.
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L313[15:43:30] <Deddly> Aliens
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L326[16:15:54] <APlayer> maltesh: It only
works because the earth is flat
L327[16:16:32] <APlayer> Actually could
have been rotating its solar panels or something
L328[16:17:26] <APlayer> (IIRC a lot of
satellites rotate their solar panels parallel to their velocity
vector in order to reduce orbital decay on the night side)
L329[16:17:33] *
maltesh shrugs. "It just meant I had to revise the script I
was using to turn Heavens Above listings into Google Calendar
Events. "
L330[16:18:04] <APlayer> How did you
observe it and what does the script do?
L331[16:18:06] <maltesh> The initial logic
I'd been using to deal with the timing drift as the days passed was
that an Iridium Flare of the same Satellite within five minutes was
the same event.
L332[16:19:01] <maltesh> And I haven't
observed it yet, I was just looking through the logs of my script
to ensure that something I'd fixed yesterday was working.
L333[16:19:40] <APlayer> So you have
something automatically tracking satellite passes?
L334[16:20:39] <maltesh> Yeah. Back in
2011, I was messing around with Google Apps Script to go to the
Heavens Above website, read in ISS passes for my location, and post
them to a Google Calendar.
L335[16:21:12] <maltesh> After that got
really complicated, I tried it with Yahoo Pipes for awhile, and
then moved it into C# briefly, but went back to Google Apps Script
earlier this year.
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L337[16:21:47] <maltesh> Also, it now also
tracks visibility of Tiangong-1 and Tiangong-2, as well as Iridium
Flares.
L338[16:22:10] <APlayer> And what logged
the double flare? Was that a Heavens Above prediction or did some
hardware actually record that?
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L340[16:23:30] <maltesh> It's Heavens
above. From my location, on December 18th, it looks like Iridium 64
will frair at 5:19:40 PM and 5:23:35 PM.
L341[16:23:38] <maltesh> Flare,
even.
L342[16:24:42] <tawny> neat
L343[16:24:42] <APlayer> Ah, then
L344[16:25:07] <APlayer> I already thought
you had some sort of scope logging satellite passes :D
L345[16:25:26] <APlayer> That would have
been /awesome/.
L346[16:26:53] <maltesh> The thing that i
wound up doing the script this year was trying to identify
individual passes/flares so I could update the Calendar Events
automatically as the predictions changed. Previously, I'd been
deleting all events on the calendar every day, and adding new
ones.
L347[16:28:38] <maltesh> Updating the
events allows me to set up notifications on the events if I decide
I'm going to view one, because depending on how far in the future
the Heavens Above predictions go, I've seen events drift as much as
30 seconds over 24 hours.
L348[16:30:04] <Mathuin> I have a really
nice app on my Android to track ISS and Iridium flares and planets.
Free app, pay for extra features, pretty decent.
L349[16:30:26] <maltesh> Yeah. Heavens
Above also has an official app, as well.
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L351[16:31:34] <maltesh> But this project
was basically the second thing I started doing with Google
Scripting and Javascript, so I've got a soft spot for it.
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L378[17:56:03] <Fluburtur> I will be going
at anotehr hobby shop soon to get a new job but the guy who I think
is the boss looks like an old grump
L379[17:56:12] <Fluburtur> not sure it's
the case however
L380[17:56:56] <Mathuin> It just takes too
long to fly places in the game. :-(
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L394[19:21:25] <lordcirth> Mathuin, you
mean in atmo? Yeah it can be boring. Is your craft stable enough to
physics warp?
L395[19:21:42] <lordcirth> I skip all
flight missions in career, and do space only
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L400[20:11:35] <Mathuin> Yeah, physics
warp and patience. :-)
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L405[20:35:54] <Fluburtur> for some reason
I can't seem to be able to buy a krytron from the internet
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