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L60[04:36:41] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/775ec42b70d9fb308b31fa0741ebae56/tumblr_mzeuhqbgLg1qfthy3o1_540.jpg
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L67[05:46:32] <Althego> https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9102688256/h6F31964E/
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L70[06:16:42] <Rolf> merry xmas http://www.lab-initio.com/screen_res/nz229.jpg
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L76[06:44:40] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/162841566296145920/388309712602660864/DSC_8071.JPG
L77[06:48:16] <Mat2ch> PAL... that's old. :D
L78[06:48:38] <Fluburtur> good old game from 2000
L79[06:48:49] <Althego> haha, games after 2000 ar enew to me
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L82[07:01:35] <transitbiker> bwoop
L83[07:02:20] <Althego> bwm bwm (onager artillery cruiser firing)
L84[07:03:25] <transitbiker> so i made a jet out of the big rocket tanks hehe
L85[07:03:46] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/162841566296145920/388314622920359936/DSC_8073.JPG
L86[07:04:01] <Fluburtur> the left joystick of my ps1 controller is a bit bad I have to fix that
L87[07:05:21] <transitbiker> i threw my old gamecube controller so hard the one joystick popped out
L88[07:05:58] <transitbiker> i was having a bad day heh
L89[07:06:16] <Fluburtur> well this one doesn't even have the real things on it
L90[07:06:26] <Fluburtur> it's a disposable razor handle
L91[07:09:08] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/162841566296145920/388315978628333568/DSC_8074.JPG
L92[07:09:28] <transitbiker> i have a manual trimmer from the 1940's, no electric required
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L95[07:31:05] <Fluburtur> how to you clean the stick of a ps1 controller?
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L97[07:40:24] <Mat2ch> with lots and lots of alcohole
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L105[08:13:07] <transitbiker> mmmm vanilla cherry greek yogurt x-x
L106[08:14:05] <Althego> let the h wars begin. yoghurt :)
L107[08:14:06] <transitbiker> so i have a big drone... how to put passenger capacity.. any ideas? :D
L108[08:14:42] <Althego> the usual way. make a big ugly plane
L109[08:14:50] <transitbiker> ugly? :(
L110[08:15:16] <transitbiker> i have a plane that flies already, but it's literally all fuel tank & control surfaces (and wing)
L111[08:17:23] <transitbiker> and its not ugly ;|
L112[08:21:01] <transitbiker> ok, i thinkusing the big fuel tanks as a fuselage isnt good, they have a very high dry weight, and carry far more fuel than needed
L113[08:21:57] <Althego> "tough little ship" "little?"
L114[08:22:01] <transitbiker> the mk3 rocket tank is similar, very heavy dry weight
L115[08:22:22] <transitbiker> prepare for ramming speed!
L116[08:23:20] <Althego> https://gfycat.com/RepulsiveShadyAardvark
L117[08:23:37] <transitbiker> worf, jordi & data are my favorites
L118[08:24:05] <Althego> the prepare for ramming speed is from last starfighter
L119[08:24:15] <transitbiker> the feels when data goes to the damaged section on the enterpeise E
L120[08:24:56] <transitbiker> perhaps today is a good day to die prepar for ramming speed, sir another ship has entered the fight, its the enterprise -they all get that hopeful look-
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L122[08:26:42] <Fluburtur> well, the game doesn't want to save progress on the memory card
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L124[08:26:55] <Fluburtur> a whoopin 1 megabytes card
L125[08:27:55] <transitbiker> oneof the reasons that galactic peace will eventually be the norm in the star trek universe is because humans can defeat the borg, and there are reasonable folks from pretty much all the non-federation alliances
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L127[08:31:25] <Althego> i have one problem with this. defeating the borg is eradicatingthem
L128[08:31:34] <Althego> so, total destruction of a species
L129[08:31:40] <Althego> or rather population
L130[08:31:50] <TheKosmonaut> Yeah. The federation have had opportunities to defeat the Borg multiple times
L131[08:31:55] <Althego> ok, they are harmful for the other people
L132[08:32:16] <Althego> "hugh"
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L134[08:34:13] <sandbox> where are the ducks?
L135[08:35:12] <Althego> on the water
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L138[08:42:45] <Truga> borg just wanted to make more friends, too
L139[08:44:43] <ve2dmn> the Blorg too
L140[08:45:22] <Althego> the habsborg and the bourbots :)
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L144[08:54:37] <Truga> blorg are good
L145[08:55:28] <Althego> i never understood why they thought in the 80s that connecting people would make them lose individuality
L146[08:55:34] <Althego> we are the borg already
L147[08:55:41] <Althego> million voices over the internet
L148[08:55:47] <Althego> and they are louder than ever
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L152[09:01:52] <ve2dmn> Althego: people are afraid of '1984', but 'Brave new world' will happen willingly
L153[09:04:19] <sandbox> I'm more afraid of 1997
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L157[09:06:46] <Althego> we are going towards it
L158[09:06:53] <Althego> especially usa
L159[09:06:57] <Althego> but that is politics
L160[09:08:57] <ve2dmn> https://i.redditmedia.com/Os41BbqegOfF3pidhi2WthphLgnd0VJLRoorLJ8T_-8.jpg?w=700&s=33a0fd17841debb0395ad350bd12bac9
L161[09:09:14] <Althego> https://mahou.moe/board/pic/3ea53d012c7e70eb48fe45608dfc7f15.jpg
L162[09:14:47] <FltAdmVonSpiz> the biggest SRB likes to slam back into the seperating craft doesn't it?
L163[09:14:52] <ve2dmn> Althego: it's a christmas Meow-racle!
L164[09:14:53] <transitbiker> yes
L165[09:15:07] <transitbiker> someone say meow? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bwul0__KfA
L166[09:15:07] <kmath> YouTube - Valar Meowghulis - All Men Must Meow (Game of Meows)
L167[09:15:17] <Kalpa> No, not the meows
L168[09:15:20] <Althego> FltAdmVonSpiz: no, if you put the decoupler above the center of mass
L169[09:15:39] <Althego> hehehe
L170[09:16:04] <transitbiker> the kickback needs a sepratron to really get clear of your core stage, otherwise it can flip around and hit it with the aft end as well
L171[09:16:19] <Mat2ch> Althego: well, the Borg stood for efficency in communication. The internet today is just a mess
L172[09:16:23] <FltAdmVonSpiz> how would I mount and trigger that?
L173[09:16:29] <FltAdmVonSpiz> wont the rocket exhaust mess up the core stage
L174[09:16:30] <Mat2ch> lots and lots of people screaming around and nothing gets done.
L175[09:16:40] <Althego> no, i mean
L176[09:16:42] <transitbiker> put it on the top, and stage it with the decoupler
L177[09:16:48] <Althego> you attach the thing
L178[09:17:00] <transitbiker> you dont even need a pair, just one, near the top
L179[09:17:00] <Althego> you probably cant move it above center of mass
L180[09:17:05] <Althego> take the offset tool
L181[09:17:08] <Althego> and that is it
L182[09:17:22] <Althego> so if the decoupler pushes at the top
L183[09:17:28] <Althego> it is goung to rotate outward
L184[09:17:49] <transitbiker> it can rotate the aft into the craft, tho
L185[09:18:05] <Althego> no, because the center stage is thrusting
L186[09:18:24] <Althego> other methods include tiny sepratorns on top
L187[09:18:37] <transitbiker> depends on the thickness of the atmosphere when you let it go
L188[09:18:53] <transitbiker> the drag can push it back into the craft
L189[09:18:57] <Althego> or control surfaces at the bottom, which is good because solids are not vectoring
L190[09:19:04] <Althego> and the drag also rotates them outward
L191[09:19:40] <Althego> btw the exaact last starfighter quote goes like this: forget the guns, ramming speed!
L192[09:19:50] <transitbiker> ehhh i dunno man, ive used them a ton, and one sepratron on the top is the best way to get distance so there's no fouling the main craft
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L194[09:20:21] <transitbiker> it also rotates the srb, ensuring the drag cannot flip it back intothe craft
L195[09:20:30] <transitbiker> kinda like a sort of riffling
L196[09:20:35] <Althego> i hide them inside the nose part on top, that waz it looks better
L197[09:20:39] <transitbiker> haha
L198[09:21:12] <transitbiker> youve seen the stuff i build, if i dont get the jettisoned bits away properly the whole thing can explode
L199[09:21:31] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I tried turning off SAS and spinning up in the last few seconds before booster release
L200[09:21:39] <FltAdmVonSpiz> but that just makes me lose control because SAS is the only thing keeping the damn thing stable
L201[09:21:50] <Althego> the eve suubmarine mission had the problem with decoupling the boosters when i wanted to record it
L202[09:22:02] <Althego> apparently i took a bit shallower ascent and that caused it
L203[09:22:26] <Althego> before, during the testing, everything worked fine
L204[09:22:30] <ve2dmn> FltAdmVonSpiz: screenshot?
L205[09:22:50] <FltAdmVonSpiz> Il go run the launch again if you want
L206[09:22:55] <transitbiker> just remember, drag wants to pull the forward traveling end to the side
L207[09:23:04] <FltAdmVonSpiz> but right now I am putting the box girder parts as spacers
L208[09:23:18] <Althego> also you can use the wider decouplers
L209[09:23:24] <Althego> i usually use those
L210[09:23:26] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I only have two unlocked
L211[09:23:29] <Althego> gives more psace
L212[09:23:30] <FltAdmVonSpiz> and neither are the ones with the standoff legs
L213[09:23:34] <ve2dmn> I just want to understand your design because I'm curious what is happening
L214[09:23:34] <transitbiker> ahhh
L215[09:23:38] <FltAdmVonSpiz> why is the original stock decoupler the high level one
L216[09:23:45] <Althego> then put all the solids below ina cluster
L217[09:23:53] <FltAdmVonSpiz> Twin Boar with six kickbacks around the outside
L218[09:24:19] <transitbiker> do you have the sepratrons available?
L219[09:24:24] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I think so
L220[09:24:39] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I have six BACCs around the outside of the kickbacks that drop off early, just to get the thing moving off the pad
L221[09:24:47] <FltAdmVonSpiz> all twelve boosters light on the pad
L222[09:25:17] <transitbiker> to save on cost, just one at the tip on the left or right side should do the trick, but if yu can afford it, a pair at both ends on the sides will really push them out and away
L223[09:25:27] <FltAdmVonSpiz> the exhaust wont damage the craft?
L224[09:25:32] <transitbiker> no
L225[09:27:24] <transitbiker> the other non-propellant option is to give them fixed fins that pull them away, the down side is that it does add a bit of drag, and the higher you decouple, the less effective the fins will be
L226[09:28:57] <transitbiker> for example, on the left and right side using the snap tool, you'd angle them so the leading edge was facing away from the body of the craft at the top and at the bottom
L227[09:29:49] <transitbiker> using that method, the one big advantage is that you can decouple them while they are still firing, so unless you have something directly above they will break off cleanly
L228[09:30:16] <transitbiker> plus it looks cool :D
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L230[09:30:42] <transitbiker> hay glass
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L232[09:31:35] <transitbiker> glass again :D
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L236[09:33:30] <transitbiker> o.o
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L240[09:52:08] <transitbiker> so, any luck?
L241[10:04:36] <transitbiker> huh, interesting
L242[10:06:28] <transitbiker> used an srb and the mk1 capsule to fly a mission, works pretty well
L243[10:06:47] <transitbiker> just gotta not stay in the atmosphere too long or the parachute burns up
L244[10:14:10] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372444178510249998/388359129971949568/20171207164509_1.jpg
L245[10:17:03] <transitbiker> neat prop design ;)
L246[10:17:41] <Fluburtur> had to land without any tail control
L247[10:17:46] <transitbiker> heh
L248[10:18:17] <Fluburtur> I did it then went back to combat and got shot down immediatly
L249[10:18:19] <Fluburtur> worth it
L250[10:22:15] <transitbiker> i gotta finish building my guardian farm on the multiplayer server before 1.13 comes out and ruins it
L251[10:24:12] <transitbiker> just gotta add some final touches and the mk2 bases line of airliners will be completed
L252[10:24:23] <transitbiker> well, the first base series anyway
L253[10:24:43] <transitbiker> going to do 3-4 of each type
L254[10:25:19] <transitbiker> so we have the small ones done, working on the medium mk2 based ones now, and then the mk3 based ones next
L255[10:38:02] <QuantumRaptor> Infalling galaxies http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/info/press-releases/galaxy_orbits/
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L257[10:55:53] <ve2dmn> QuantumRaptor: the COM seems to be a bit off center
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L260[11:02:00] <QuantumRaptor> uh
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L264[11:06:05] <ve2dmn> is it because of the great attractor?
L265[11:09:55] <QuantumRaptor> No sure.
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L275[11:45:14] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Please remember to shut all windows and airlocks before we reach orbit!
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L278[11:46:42] <Scolar_Visari> And in today's, "news": NextBigFuture can't tell the difference between nuclear reactors and RTGs https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/12/nuclear-powered-drones-are-technically-feasible-and-could-fly-for-years.html
L279[11:48:19] <Scolar_Visari> From the article: "An unclassified study indicated that the nuclear powered drone could be built and would provide great performance. The only reason for not building it was because of the political problems it would cause."
L280[11:49:14] <Scolar_Visari> Yes, because having a thin-walled nuclear reactor crash into nation's backyard is merely a political problem.
L281[11:50:00] <QuantumRaptor> I can think of problems even without a crash.
L282[11:50:10] * QuantumRaptor stares at skyshine.
L283[11:50:17] <transitbiker> we have bigger problems than how to power a uav
L284[11:50:40] <Scolar_Visari> QuantumRaptor: I'm of the mind that, "great performance" is an exaggeration.
L285[11:51:01] <Scolar_Visari> "Well, it can carry ONE Hellfire missile practically forever!"
L286[11:51:06] <tawny> yeah what's wrong with our current drone power sources?
L287[11:51:20] <QuantumRaptor> Scolar_Visari: I still want nuclear reactors for exploring the gas/ice giants.
L288[11:51:48] <QuantumRaptor> Also, Hah!
L289[11:51:58] <transitbiker> speaking of great performance, why is elon musk trying to remove rail transport?
L290[11:52:02] <Scolar_Visari> Entertainingly, the article even states that, "Using nuclear power would enable the Reaper not only to remain airborne for far longer, but to carry more missiles or surveillance equipment."
L291[11:52:15] <transitbiker> more missiles, yay
L292[11:52:38] <Scolar_Visari> Last I checked, there are no practical nuclear reactors that one could put on a MQ-9.
L293[11:52:51] <Scolar_Visari> You might want something just a liiiiittle big bigger.
L294[11:53:07] <tawny> wait, he's *removing* rail transport?
L295[11:53:21] <tawny> I thought he was just building an alternate rail transport that'll probably be totally useless to everyone
L296[11:53:23] <QuantumRaptor> If the goal is to have a recon platform up for weeks, I'd suggest solar. Seriously.
L297[11:53:38] <Scolar_Visari> Of course, by the time one paid the R&D for a limit production run of nuclear powered drones, you could've just invented an unmanned refueling craft . . .
L298[11:53:44] <QuantumRaptor> (NASA demonstrated craft flying overnight back in the 90s)
L299[11:53:48] <transitbiker> smallest nuclear reactor i know of was originally designed back in the day of "hey, lets have nuclear powered everything!" meant to fit inside a locomotive or large aircraft
L300[11:54:11] <Scolar_Visari> QuantumRaptor: Virtually anything would be more reasonable cost wise.
L301[11:54:24] <Mathuin> There was very recently a new tiny nuclear thing designed and tested, honestly don't recall if it was rtg or reactor
L302[11:54:45] <Scolar_Visari> Big UAVs are already hideously expensive as it is.
L303[11:55:14] <transitbiker> i know where one facility is that controls some of the usaf drones
L304[11:55:32] <transitbiker> former naval air base
L305[11:55:58] <Scolar_Visari> QuantumRaptor: The article also seems to think NASA's proposed RTG Titan quadcopter is also toting an impossibly small nuclear reactor.
L306[11:56:34] <QuantumRaptor> blarg
L307[11:56:55] <transitbiker> just what we need, chunks of radioactive materials flying all over
L308[11:56:55] <Scolar_Visari> More amusing given some concepts how the power source attached to a seperate lander in which the RC copter docks to and recharges at.
L309[11:57:25] <Scolar_Visari> Namely: https://www.nasa.gov/content/titan-aerial-daughtercraft
L310[11:59:08] <Scolar_Visari> Then again, perhaps I should not be expecting something from a website that looks like it was developed back in 2000?
L311[12:00:37] <Mathuin> https://beyondnerva.wordpress.com/2017/11/19/krusty-first-of-a-new-breed-of-reactors-kilopower-part-ii/
L312[12:00:57] * Scolar_Visari ponders why every single web developer seems to have confused, "mobile device compatibility" with, "let's just backdate to our 90's version of the site!"
L313[12:01:34] <QuantumRaptor> Not true. They'd be way faster to load.
L314[12:02:11] <Scolar_Visari> Indeed. At least video advertisements weren't a thing back then, we just had crappy flash videos.
L315[12:05:09] <Scolar_Visari> I long for the day when Yahoo had a sensible news site design that was not overrun with upvoting bots!
L316[12:08:53] <Scolar_Visari> NASA's old site design was superb too.
L317[12:09:41] <Scolar_Visari> And . . . X Rebirth is free to play this weekend?
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L319[12:16:09] <Scolar_Visari> I'M FIRIN MAH LAZER! https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1712/HH666_HubblePestana_2495.jpg
L320[12:18:56] <Scolar_Visari> And Mars may have taken a steam bath https://phys.org/news/2017-12-clay-minerals-mars-primordial-steam.html
L321[12:22:11] <Mathuin> There's a mod out there that will add MechJeb and KER to all rockets, so you don't need to slap the little MechJeb thingee on each rocket. The RPM interface for MechJeb doesn't seem to recognize it unless the actual part is in place. Any ideas why?
L322[12:23:32] <Scolar_Visari> Dunno, I never had problems doing that.
L323[12:26:04] <Mathuin> Also I hate that I have to set autostage to true in the utilities for every stinking vessel
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L325[12:35:47] <Fluburtur> someone in a discord server is saying that a kulbit is just a super tight loop
L326[12:35:51] <Fluburtur> but just no
L327[12:36:04] <Fluburtur> the trajectory of the aircraft doesn't for a loop but a wave at most
L328[12:37:18] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulbit
L329[12:37:35] <Fluburtur> no
L330[12:37:38] <Fluburtur> that's a kulbit https://i2.wp.com/su-27flanker.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/retournement-mig29.gif?resize=726%2C197
L331[12:38:11] <Fluburtur> the aircraft always goes in the same direction but just does a full 360 around its axis
L332[12:38:32] <ve2dmn> well, it does mean 'Somersault' in russian
L333[12:38:47] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ALt3m3Kkhw
L334[12:38:47] <kmath> YouTube - su-37 performing a kulbit
L335[12:38:48] <Scolar_Visari> Fluburtur: Wait . . . I've done that in Elite!
L336[12:39:16] <Scolar_Visari> It is rather easy when there's no air.
L337[12:43:26] <tawny> what... what's the point of that maneuver
L338[12:43:39] <ve2dmn> tawny: aerobatics
L339[12:44:15] <tawny> ah
L340[12:44:15] <tawny> fair enough
L341[12:44:25] <Fluburtur> if it had a point other than showing off it would be to lose a lot of speed to make the enemy go in front of you
L342[12:44:36] <Fluburtur> only useful in dogfight
L343[12:45:03] <ve2dmn> dogfight: only in the past and in movies
L344[12:45:49] <Fluburtur> yeah but russian fighters are cool anyways
L345[12:45:56] <Fluburtur> you have to show good stuff at airshows
L346[12:55:28] <Scolar_Visari> Fluburtur: Useful in a dogfight in the early-mid 20th Century.
L347[12:56:40] <Scolar_Visari> Or space dogfights.
L348[12:58:05] <QuantumRaptor> pay no attention to those lasers with effective ranges of ≥1e7 m.
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L351[13:27:34] <Fluburtur> the rarest photo of me https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byr1cNifke0zN0dxZXdoWTJUb0E/view?usp=sharing
L352[13:29:15] <Scolar_Visari> QuantumRaptor: I just stick with tachyon lances. They erase foes before they exist!
L353[13:29:46] <QuantumRaptor> <_<
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L355[13:46:24] <Scolar_Visari> Though I suppose range is never an issue in Elite Dangerous, as combat tends to take place within 2 kilometers.
L356[13:46:42] <Scolar_Visari> Throwing cargo out the airlock should totally be a tactic.
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L363[14:00:06] <Scolar_Visari> Is it that time of year again for Pearl Harbor conspiracies?
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L366[14:02:14] <Blaank> You mean that the US had early warning that Japan was going to try something and was confident that it would be a small scale attack with limited damage and would get the US into the war that the rest of the world was losing and was the lesser of two evils, the alternative being the ultimate destruction of the USA?
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L368[14:06:43] <Scolar_Visari> I'm not sure there was any real chance of, "utlimate destruction of the USA" outside parallel universes where the Nazis have time travelers with weapons from the 32nd Century, ditto with an Axis victory.
L369[14:07:13] * Scolar_Visari glares at the enormous materiel disparity.
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L372[14:12:01] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
L373[14:12:38] <Blaank> Well it would end up the entire world vs the USA.
L374[14:12:49] <Blaank> And I think that's a bit of an uphill fight for the USA.
L375[14:16:25] <Scolar_Visari> Blaank: Why would it be the USA alone? The Reich was never, ever, ever, ever, even remotely close to getting rid of the USSR or Britain.
L376[14:16:45] <ve2dmn> Britain has the support of 'The Empire'
L377[14:16:50] <ve2dmn> had*
L378[14:17:09] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: There was also that early war switch to convoys and ASW patrols.
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L380[14:17:50] <Scolar_Visari> The BdU, by Donitz' own admission, went to war with around less than an order of a magnitude than what he thought was needed for a victory in the Atlantic, and was probably being optimistic.
L381[14:21:20] <ve2dmn> BTW, conspiracies never die, because that's what they WANT you to think
L382[14:21:35] <ve2dmn> :D
L383[14:21:36] <Scolar_Visari> Knocking out the Union, on the other hand, would have required a horrendous increase in the already large number of casualties on the Eastern Front.
L384[14:22:11] <Scolar_Visari> I'm also certain the Red Army would've gleefully burned down every oil derrick prior to their Axis capture.
L385[14:22:48] <ve2dmn> Invading Russia in winter is never a good idea. Unless you are the Mongols
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L387[14:24:19] <Scolar_Visari> The issue wasn't invading in the winter. The issue was invading Russia and assuming you'll be done before winter.
L388[14:24:52] <ve2dmn> The Mongol invaded Moscow from the east. In Winter. And won.
L389[14:25:08] <Scolar_Visari> Winter gear was lacking, and supply lines were hampered by the time it took to convert Russian rail gauges over to German guages
L390[14:25:29] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: No one expects the Mongolian Inquisition!
L391[14:25:50] <Scolar_Visari> Also: Horse drawn carriages aren't a good substitute for rail.
L392[14:26:00] <ve2dmn> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0506/0633/products/mongols-2_large.jpg?v=1412975005
L393[14:27:01] <ve2dmn> It's a running gag in Crash Course World History. The mongols are always an exception to the rule.
L394[14:27:29] <Scolar_Visari> It helped that they, unlike the Heer, had around four horses per person!
L395[14:27:34] <Neal> russia also did not learn the lesson of invading in winter
L396[14:28:13] <Scolar_Visari> Neal: In their defense, winter *is* campaigning seasons in less hostile climates.
L397[14:28:38] * Neal doesn't think finland is a good place to invade in winter
L398[14:28:39] <ve2dmn> Yeah. What else is there to do?
L399[14:30:20] <sandbox> invade in summer and build a car
L400[14:30:59] <ve2dmn> but summer is 'making food for winter' time
L401[14:32:48] <Scolar_Visari> sandbox: we have games for simulating summer and building cars in Finland now!
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L405[14:33:01] <sandbox> yup
L406[14:33:09] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy used NICKSERV KILL . . . It was super effective!
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L408[14:33:53] <Neal> supernovy used suicide =(
L409[14:34:02] <Neal> it was not the only option
L410[14:34:10] <ve2dmn> I miss my old Nokia N95
L411[14:34:48] * Scolar_Visari ponders an alternate reality where World War II is over sooner.
L412[14:34:58] <Scolar_Visari> To contrast with all other alt-histories.
L413[14:36:08] <ve2dmn> What... like the plot to kill leaders X,Y and Z works out and the remaining general just do a real bad job?
L414[14:37:25] <Neal> what if hirohito, churchill, hitler, and roosevelt were all simultanously assassinated because each respective side's teams took too long to get to the target
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L416[14:38:09] <ve2dmn> That still leaves Stalin in charge
L417[14:38:27] <Neal> oh no
L418[14:38:30] <Neal> this is the worst idea
L419[14:38:49] <ve2dmn> C&C: Red Alert? Or World-in-Conflict?
L420[14:39:09] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: Stalin dies early from a drunken celebration party.
L421[14:39:19] <Scolar_Visari> Also: Kane poisons him.
L422[14:39:51] <EricPoehlsen> Silly Question: I got a "Save ... from the Orbit of ..." Mission - So I reached the stranded vessel and it is a deflated Casa IHM from the Pathfinder Mod ... and if I switch to it no Kerbal is present ...
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L425[14:41:21] <EricPoehlsen> I assume there is no 'in-gane' solution to solve this mission ...
L426[14:41:53] <ve2dmn> does it says the Kerbal is dead?
L427[14:42:05] <EricPoehlsen> it shows no crew
L428[14:42:11] <EricPoehlsen> when I switch to the vessel
L429[14:42:12] <ve2dmn> what does the contract says?
L430[14:42:53] <EricPoehlsen> hmm it shows a 'okay' behind "save ..."
L431[14:43:02] <ve2dmn> What if you inflate the thing, save the game and re-load?
L432[14:43:53] <EricPoehlsen> hmm I'll revert for now and try a simple retrieval with the clamp
L433[14:44:06] <EricPoehlsen> maybe that works
L434[14:44:08] * Scolar_Visari also ponders time traveling to assist the Allies, because Nazis seem to have a monopoly on that.
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L440[15:09:35] <sandbox> be excellent to each other
L441[15:13:27] <transitbiker> and party on dudes
L442[15:15:38] <transitbiker> sandbox
L443[15:16:05] * Scolar_Visari goes off to ponder why Ezo forces thought walking into Visari's gauntlet of garish gatling guns was a good go.
L444[15:16:32] <transitbiker> STOP minecraft time -dances-
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L447[15:27:22] <ve2dmn> transitbiker: stop. You make me want to play Minecraft again. I have a backlog of 1057543585734569579 games to finish first
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L449[15:29:58] <transitbiker> hee
L450[15:30:04] <transitbiker> i am making glass from sand
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L453[15:37:56] <ve2dmn> transitbiker: I was pretty good at making Nether portal links
L454[15:38:47] <transitbiker> nice
L455[15:39:13] <transitbiker> my forte is making rail lines
L456[15:39:35] <ve2dmn> I usually don't have enough iron for thoses
L457[15:40:23] <transitbiker> well it was a mix of smelting iron and raiding mineshafts
L458[15:41:20] <transitbiker> on the ksp server i had a lil foundry
L459[15:42:19] <ve2dmn> I get too easily distracted
L460[15:43:10] <transitbiker> on youtube i watch the hermitcraft folks, mostly mumbo jumbo & xuma
L461[15:43:32] <ve2dmn> I've only ever watched X
L462[15:43:39] <ve2dmn> and Sethbling
L463[15:46:17] <ve2dmn> but before I go back to Minecraft, I need to finish my game of Stellaris, my game of KSP, I am Setuna on my Switch,...
L464[15:46:22] <ve2dmn> and countless others
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L511[18:24:11] <JCB> blep
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L513[18:24:42] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: I bring you this message FROM THE PAST!
L514[18:26:54] <Fluburtur> nice
L515[18:27:04] <Scolar_Visari> Sadly, I can only travel one second.
L516[18:27:55] <Scolar_Visari> Don't fret though! Our engineers at Econo-Temporal Travel Corp. are on the case and are working on a solution for the next release!
L517[18:28:46] <Scolar_Visari> They also assure me that the complete skin removal side effect that plagues 14% of travelers will also be reduced to a more manageable 12%.
L518[18:29:16] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/dcc2633479326835efdae73d0def99e1/tumblr_oesu3wXwxB1uhm4zso1_540.jpg
L519[18:29:27] <Fluburtur> good
L520[18:29:44] <Scolar_Visari> Fluburtur: Hey, it appears you have footage of one our earlier single engine models!
L521[18:29:56] <Fluburtur> he was taken down by this guy
L522[18:29:59] <Scolar_Visari> The hyena mutation kink was worked out though.
L523[18:30:40] <Scolar_Visari> You now only have a .17% chance of transmutation into another lifeform, hyenas now being replaced by a chance of lemurization. Lemurs being more like people, of course.
L524[18:30:59] <Fluburtur> I guess
L525[18:31:08] <Scolar_Visari> Our scientists are unaware why any of that occurred, but I always told them, "that's what you get when your time machine's developed by the same people who wrote Star Trek: Voyager!"
L526[18:31:12] <Fluburtur> like in that one movie with talking lemurs?
L527[18:32:06] <Scolar_Visari> I suppose. I've never actually seen a lemur.
L528[18:32:13] <Scolar_Visari> I'm just told they're kind of like tiny people.
L529[18:32:25] * Scolar_Visari mutters something about having never seen human beings, either.
L530[18:32:29] <Fluburtur> they are very small but have that very unique way at looking at you from above
L531[18:33:07] <Scolar_Visari> Like pigeons?
L532[18:33:16] <Fluburtur> eh
L533[18:33:22] <Fluburtur> not exactly the same
L534[18:34:39] <Scolar_Visari> What . . . "What if the Japanese had immediately followed up the airiel assault on Pearl Harbour with a full scale amphibious invasion of Hawaii?"
L535[18:35:17] <Scolar_Visari> My answer: The only way in which a full scale amphibious invasion of Hawaii could've been conducted is if the IJN had soldiers row oversized cooking pots across the Pacific.
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L537[18:36:28] <Scolar_Visari> That would've been both terribly amusing and quite one sided.
L538[18:36:55] <Fluburtur> yeah
L539[18:37:17] <Fluburtur> earlier today I was playing war thunder and assaulted pearl harbor with a p51
L540[18:37:28] <Fluburtur> my friend had a yak 7 and the other a spitfire
L541[18:38:26] <Scolar_Visari> Your friend with the Yak 7 probably one the match I'm guessing?
L542[18:38:44] <Fluburtur> no we lost
L543[18:38:49] <Mathuin> When I first watched the movie Pearl Harbor, the sound wasn't working right. I heard no dialogue but could hear environmental sounds. It was a fascinating thoughtful film, seeing the kids and the plane, but when it switched to the train scene with the young women I realized my home theater was misconfigured. The movie's quality dropped when dialogue was added back in. :-(
L544[18:38:54] <Fluburtur> there were some very good japanese planes defending
L545[18:39:16] <Fluburtur> tora tora tora is pretty good
L546[18:39:27] <Fluburtur> much better than the more recent pearl harbor movie
L547[18:39:33] <Scolar_Visari> Mathuin: Ah, yes, "Pearl Harbor", the movie that couldn't decide what number of guided missile destroyers were in the IJN's inventory
L548[18:40:10] <Scolar_Visari> Fluburtur: Japanese planes defending pearl harbor? Wait . . . This sounds a lot like Red Alert 3.
L549[18:40:24] <Fluburtur> it's fiction I guess
L550[18:40:51] <Scolar_Visari> Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor is indeed fiction.
L551[18:47:38] <Scolar_Visari> One would think that, given Pearl Harbor's budget, they'd at least spend some time coming up with CGI to replace blatantly modern escorts for long shots http://i.imgur.com/qaP2xyl.jpg
L552[18:48:11] <Scolar_Visari> No wonder the attack was a success: The IJN used modern guided missile destroyers and nuclear submarines!
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L554[18:53:36] <Scolar_Visari> You missed the nuclear Pearl Harbor!
L555[19:01:03] * Scolar_Visari is upset that 'Kushan Empire' on Wikipedia does not have a disambiguation page for Homeworld.
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L559[19:06:18] <Fluburtur> man
L560[19:06:24] <Fluburtur> hidden figures is a good movie
L561[19:08:34] <Scolar_Visari> I've been meaning to watch that, but . . . Kharak needs my help.
L562[19:12:06] * Scolar_Visari ponders if the Kharakian equivalent to Hidden Figures has S'jet scientists working against prejudiced Gaalsien overlords during the Heresy Wars.
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L564[19:14:11] <Scolar_Visari> You know, they should seriously consider more Homeworld spinoffs. There's lots of potential in the Heresy Wars era alone.
L565[19:20:47] * Scolar_Visari ponders a Deserts of Kharak TC for Civilization
L566[19:23:37] <Kalpa> Zzz
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L568[19:25:21] <Scolar_Visari> Now if only Civilization would transition to globes instead of rectangular projections maps.
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L571[19:26:59] <Scolar_Visari> You missed it. There was a Desert in Kharak.
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L574[19:32:56] <Scolar_Visari> What is up with those helicopters!?
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L584[21:07:01] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I honestly wish we had a Total War esque game on Kharak Scolar
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L586[21:07:08] <FltAdmVonSpiz> or even CK/Europa Universalis
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