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L10[00:47:39] <Althego> https://science.slashdot.org/story/17/12/04/0519215/two-stars-collided-and-solved-half-of-astronomys-problems-now-what
L11[00:56:00] <ConductingCat> :3
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L15[00:58:46] <Althego> Cynephobn?
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L19[01:15:30] <UmbralRaptor> Althego: transliteration shenanigans. Compare with KOHCTPYKTOP
L20[01:28:30] <Althego> doesnt help
L21[01:32:30] <Gasher[work]> СУПЕРНОВЫЙ
L22[01:33:15] <UmbralRaptor> ^
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L24[01:33:42] <UmbralRaptor> = SUPERNOVY (sort of)
L25[01:34:21] <Supernovy> equals me sort of!
L26[01:34:32] <Gasher[work]> sort of lol
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L81[06:41:48] <GlassYuri> https://twitter.com/louisd13/status/938193707609681920
L82[06:41:48] <kmath> <louisd13> @AirbusInTheUS @MitchellAirport @flightradar24 @flightaware @AirportWebcams @A350Blog Sometimes Google photos has a… https://t.co/ccyrsfcH8g
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L84[06:58:31] <Althego> hehe planetrain
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L101[07:55:40] * Eddi|zuHause has a hard time not reading "planet"
L102[08:00:06] <Fluburtur> ;tell Draconiator I think I solved the bounce problem
L103[08:00:06] <kmath> Fluburtur: I'll let draconiator know when I see them
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L108[08:07:15] <Fluburtur> I found what causes the plane bounce on load
L109[08:07:38] <Fluburtur> the LY-35 medium landing gear clips into the ground but other gears don't have that problem
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L111[08:19:15] <Guest95393> hi
L112[08:19:16] <Mod9000> Hello, Guest95393
L113[08:20:24] <UmbralRaptor> lo
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L115[08:20:38] <Guest95393> how create a mod for kerbal space program ?
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L117[08:23:28] <UmbralRaptor> That depends on what you want to make. The forums should have tutorials for parts and setting up software Scot writing code.
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L119[08:25:32] <Guest95393> I wanter a very big modification of parts and mechanics of flight
L120[08:27:30] <Guest95393> I am an aerospace engineer and wanted to bring more realism
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L124[08:28:40] <Althego> isnt far enough for aero physics?
L125[08:33:11] <UmbralRaptor> Like the mod FAR?
L126[08:33:25] <UmbralRaptor> oh, they left.
L127[08:35:08] <Fluburtur> I wish there was a way to put a minimum combat distance in BDA
L128[08:35:31] <Fluburtur> I have a plane that can't engage at less than 1km but it insists on hugging his target
L129[08:35:40] <Fluburtur> that happens to have defensive turrets
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L132[09:02:34] <Eddi|zuHause> <Fluburtur> the LY-35 medium landing gear clips into the ground but other gears don't have that problem <-- oh yeah i've had that problem
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L137[09:48:19] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: go big or you don't go home?
L138[09:48:38] <Fluburtur> I guess
L139[09:48:44] <ve2dmn> (about landing gears)
L140[09:52:30] <ve2dmn> Today is the 100th Anniversary of the Halifax explosion
L141[09:53:18] <ve2dmn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion
L142[09:57:59] <ve2dmn> It's also another anniversary in Montreal. A dark one that I will simply mention in passing as it is highly politicised
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L144[10:25:52] <transitbiker> for any of you music nuts https://youtu.be/zHWex94-mHg?t=443
L145[10:25:52] <kmath> YouTube - Piano Sounds Never Heard Before!
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L147[10:50:12] <Ezko_> ve2dmn: 100th anniversary of something else too
L148[10:51:15] <ve2dmn> I mentioned the Halifax Explosion because it's Wikipedia article of the day
L149[10:51:47] <ve2dmn> It was the biggest man-made explosion prior to nuclear bombs
L150[10:57:16] <Ezko_> 100th anniversary of finnish independence
L151[10:57:18] <Ezko_> declaration
L152[10:59:44] <Leveller> Ezko_: Moriens.
L153[10:59:47] <Leveller> gz
L154[10:59:51] <Leveller> Hyvää päivää
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L158[11:14:02] <Leveller> :)
L159[11:25:06] <Ezko_> hyvää päivää
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L162[11:28:42] <kuzetsa> such umlats
L163[11:29:10] <kuzetsa> *umlaut
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L165[11:34:04] <GlassYuri> *umlaute
L166[11:37:27] <kuzetsa> um... lattes might have milk in them
L167[11:37:37] <kuzetsa> pretty sure I want a coffee, regardless
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L170[11:50:08] <QuantumRaptor> Yay, coffee.
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L172[12:05:11] <Eddi|zuHause> ve2dmn: so the finnish people celebrated their independence by making the greatest firework ever halfway around the world?
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L174[12:06:03] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: I doubt it. The Halifax explosion was an accident with over 2000 dead and countless injuried
L175[12:07:10] <ve2dmn> The only (weak) link between the 2 events is WW1
L176[12:07:28] <Eddi|zuHause> sorry, it was a terrible joke
L177[12:10:22] <sandbox> a butterfly was responsible
L178[12:10:58] <ve2dmn> sandbox: The accident was because 2 ship captain were playing the most dangerous game of 'chicken'
L179[12:11:20] <ve2dmn> "You move away", "No you move away"
L180[12:12:16] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i've seen a video about that yesterday
L181[12:12:24] <ve2dmn> Sixty Symbols?
L182[12:12:34] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i think so
L183[12:14:30] <ve2dmn> If that's the one, she spelled 'Dartmouth' as 'Darthmouth'
L184[12:15:26] <Eddi|zuHause> i wouldn't have noticed that
L185[12:28:12] <ve2dmn> Most Canadian have heard of it because of the 'heritage minutes'
L186[12:30:41] <ve2dmn> A sort of 'mini history lesson' that was between 2 ads on TV
L187[12:33:45] <Mathuin> Hah! "Never Visiting Dres..." is a loading hint
L188[12:34:13] <ve2dmn> You cannot visit what is not there
L189[12:34:31] <Althego> the conspiracy
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L191[12:38:21] <QuantumRaptor> Dres is just to distract you from the awful truth hidden at gas planet 2.
L192[12:38:44] <Mathuin> I'll be happy to enter Kerbol's SOI
L193[12:39:35] <ve2dmn> is it possible to place a planet far enough that it would be impossible to reach?
L194[12:39:49] <Eddi|zuHause> is there an outside to Kerbol's SOI?
L195[12:39:55] <Althego> maybe it would be just bugged
L196[12:40:00] <ve2dmn> As in, requires 18000dv ?
L197[12:40:06] <Althego> dont think you can leave that
L198[12:40:15] <QuantumRaptor> Out, no. In, maybe.
L199[12:42:27] <Eddi|zuHause> ve2dmn: how would something be impossible to reach? certainly there's a finite escape velocity, and no object you wanted to reach a finite distance away would require surpassing that
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L201[12:43:25] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: You are limited to around 17000-17500 dv with the LV-N engine
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L204[12:46:40] <Eddi|zuHause> google thinks escape velocity is 13000m/s
L205[12:46:55] <Eddi|zuHause> from kerbin orbit
L206[12:47:17] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: with 999999999999999999 T800 (or 1.25E17 Orange tanks) and a single LV-N you get 17261m/s of dv
L207[12:47:55] <Eddi|zuHause> so it should definitely be possible to reach that
L208[12:48:27] <ve2dmn> to get 17000, you only need 136 T800 tanks
L209[12:49:44] <ve2dmn> granted, my math is probably way off, because that was based on an old version of KSP
L210[12:50:33] <Eddi|zuHause> also, 13km/s means you need only like 4km/s dV, because you're already travelling at orbital velocity already
L211[12:51:32] <QuantumRaptor> From Kerbin's surface, kerbol escape only needed like 7 km/s pre 1.0
L212[12:52:15] <ve2dmn> Right... Kerbol is probably the hardest place to go beside 'leaving the solar system'
L213[12:52:42] <QuantumRaptor> Impossible to orbit I could see (something interior to Moho), though yeah, flybys are always possible.
L214[12:52:45] <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds about right
L215[12:53:24] <Eddi|zuHause> to "land" on the sun means cancelling out the orbital velocity
L216[12:54:08] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: but you are ultimatly limited in dV but the ISP of the engine you use
L217[12:54:14] <Eddi|zuHause> so going from 1->0, wheras escaping means going from 1->sqrt(2)
L218[12:54:19] <ve2dmn> so you can't go 'anywhere'
L219[12:55:06] <ve2dmn> It's possible to place a another planet somewhere in that solar system that would be impossible to reach
L220[12:55:17] <ve2dmn> I'm just wondering how far it would be
L221[12:55:37] <ve2dmn> using the ion engine, you get a lot more dV
L222[12:55:58] <ve2dmn> My old math said 36km/s of dv, but I'm not sure it's still valid
L223[12:56:27] <Eddi|zuHause> you could also add a refuelling stop at jool or something
L224[12:56:56] <Eddi|zuHause> where escape velocity might be even easier to reach
L225[12:57:00] <ve2dmn> with ISRU then it becomes possible to get MUCH MUCH further
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L269[14:17:36] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Long live our Kerbal homeworld, foged by the Kraken's tentacles! Long live green people, in orbit and free!
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L272[14:21:28] <Scolar_Visari> Huh, so there's a . . . Riot simulator game now?
L273[14:21:46] * Scolar_Visari would've assumed the angry mob from C&C Generals would've been sufficient enough for most people.
L274[14:22:05] <SnoopJeDi> I'm not sure anything has been sufficient for gamers ever
L275[14:23:32] <Scolar_Visari> Yeah, but, like there was an entire level in the first Generals game that had you playing with nothing but an Angry Mob and burning down an entire city.
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L278[14:26:49] <Scolar_Visari> Though it helps that there's also nothing shooting back at the mob, like PLA flamethrower tanks . . .
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L280[14:32:58] <transitbiker> https://youtu.be/XcVpMJp9Th4?t=1470
L281[14:32:58] <kmath> YouTube - Elon Musk Gives Updates on Mission to Mars.
L282[14:33:04] <transitbiker> sounds like ksp hehe
L283[14:33:07] * Scolar_Visari supposes the riot simulator is somewhat less morally objectionable than the many, "dating simulators" on Steam.
L284[14:34:18] <Draconiator> Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeey transit how are ya?
L285[14:34:22] * transitbiker is playing two minecrafts and a ksp
L286[14:34:33] <transitbiker> swell, but i got some ice, and you? :D
L287[14:34:50] <Draconiator> KMATH you should get me when I log on NOT when I say something....
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L289[14:35:05] <Draconiator> GREAT HERE, working on something with Flub
L290[14:35:26] <ve2dmn> Draconiator: did you solve your issues?
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L292[14:35:37] <transitbiker> nice
L293[14:36:29] <Draconiator> No, I did not.
L294[14:36:36] <transitbiker> issues?
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L297[14:37:40] <Guest31152> hi
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L299[14:37:51] <transitbiker> i am designing a series of aircraft with commonality between them, kind of like how boeing does - first i am building the base or -100 model then can be modified from there
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L301[14:38:47] * Scolar_Visari ponders why the developers of the aborted Generals 2 decided to convert the Chinese assault rifles from bullpups into non-bullpups https://goo.gl/9aYhzS
L302[14:38:55] <Fluburtur> well, one of my planes just evaded a missile by crashing into the ground
L303[14:39:00] <Fluburtur> 100% effective
L304[14:39:03] <transitbiker> have 3 of those so far, using the mk2 & mk1 parts, next i will be using mk2 parts only, then mk2/mk and then only mk3
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L306[14:40:30] <Scolar_Visari> For contrast, here's the actual mainstay of the PLA, the QBZ-95 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Gcpd85n0MaY/hqdefault.jpg
L307[14:41:32] <transitbiker> they need to make cargo bays that match up with the big saturn style tanks
L308[14:42:44] <Althego> hahaha https://kep.cdn.indexvas.hu/1/0/1894/18944/189449/18944933_6795a98c5449160f454f0ff27b214810_wm.jpg
L309[14:43:34] <transitbiker> adam west is the only true batman
L310[14:43:38] <transitbiker> rip
L311[14:44:02] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: It's a trick question: Batman was never real in the first place!
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L313[14:44:10] <transitbiker> agree
L314[14:45:49] <Draconiator> Annnnnnd I accidentally unplugged the cable modem.
L315[14:45:54] <Althego> but what is real in this world
L316[14:45:56] <transitbiker> gg
L317[14:46:07] <transitbiker> we will never know what is real
L318[14:46:20] <transitbiker> and we will never know everything aside
L319[14:46:22] <Althego> what is love :)
L320[14:46:30] <transitbiker> an ability
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L322[14:48:06] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: It's a controlled substance.
L323[14:48:57] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm, Disney-Fox deal may be announced this week.
L324[14:49:01] <transitbiker> on the watch for SEPTA's new locomotives
L325[14:49:09] * Scolar_Visari eagerly awaits a Star Wars non-Special Edition re-release.
L326[14:49:28] <transitbiker> they may be interchanged from the freight carrier at any number of yards
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L329[14:52:36] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
L330[14:52:43] <transitbiker> ahoy
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L332[14:53:22] <Scolar_Visari> You missed it, there was a mouse with large gloves purchasing movie rights from a greedy fox.
L333[14:55:48] <QuantumRaptor> Will this bring red pandas to theaters?
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L335[14:56:51] <Scolar_Visari> Yes, and it means normal black and white pandas unaltered by CGI can also be brought into theaters.
L336[14:57:17] <Supernovy> Was there a guy who travels through time warning people?
L337[14:58:04] <Scolar_Visari> No, they were arrested after warning about some sort of time traveling killer cyborg.
L338[14:59:02] <Althego> hehem the habsborgs and the bourbots :)
L339[14:59:58] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: Yeah, he meant to travel to the 17th Century and accidentally got sent forward in time because he hadn't understood that whole Special Relativity thing yet.
L340[15:00:36] <Supernovy> a Time Warner if you will.
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L342[15:01:41] <Scolar_Visari> Jokes on him, though, the Bourbots eventually get overthrown in their native lands by the first Open Source movement.
L343[15:01:50] <Althego> heh it was all a pun
L344[15:02:37] <Althego> red5 is not here
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L346[15:02:58] <ve2dmn> Supernovy: his name was 'John Titor'
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L348[15:05:21] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm, wait, there's actually going to be a third Mazerunner movie? Meh.
L349[15:06:03] <Supernovy> There was a second?
L350[15:06:24] <Scolar_Visari> Indeed.
L351[15:06:36] <Supernovy> I remember it leaving on a giant sequel hook, but I figured they dropped the entire thing as they are wont to do
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L353[15:07:15] <Scolar_Visari> It could be worse. Allegiant Part 1 was so bad that plans for Part 2 were dropped to a direct-to-VHS level feature that's almost certainly canceled entirely.
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L355[15:09:15] <Supernovy> oh, that's the I Can't Believe It's Not Hunger Games movies, right?
L356[15:09:30] <Scolar_Visari> Yes. The third sequel to a movie franchise nobody wanted in the first place.
L357[15:11:19] <Supernovy> Is the movie-series-based-on-young-adult-fiction-book-series-with-the-last-movie-split-in-two fad over?
L358[15:11:47] <Scolar_Visari> I can only hope so.
L359[15:12:39] <Scolar_Visari> Then the Zac-Snyder-action-movies fad should be next.
L360[15:14:23] <Scolar_Visari> Also: Skyline has a sequel releasing soon.
L361[15:15:19] <Scolar_Visari> Imaginatively titled Beyond Skyline.
L362[15:15:36] <Scolar_Visari> I'm thinking the name's going to be referenced a lot in the inevitably poor reviews.
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L366[15:20:45] <Scolar_Visari> Could be worse. We could get another Twilight sequel!
L367[15:20:45] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: I just read the plot to Mazerunner. It sounds bad
L368[15:20:58] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: I've tried to watch it. I just turned to something else instead.
L369[15:23:21] * Scolar_Visari ponders if there ever has been a young adult sub-genre movie with believable (or at least, likeable) characters and a plot that wasn't a poorly conceived romance written by people whose experience in the matter is restricted to dating simulation games.
L370[15:24:30] <tawny> the first hunger games book was actually pretty good about that
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L372[15:25:11] <ve2dmn> The only one I can think of is 'The Fault in our Stars'
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L374[15:26:17] <tawny> I didn't actually like that one very much
L375[15:27:30] <tawny> I thought the characters were kinda illogical or fake-deep. But they felt fake-deep in a way that people actually are in real life so it wasn't like totally ridiculous or anything, just kind of not a fun read for me
L376[15:27:53] <Scolar_Visari> I suppose I'll just have to stick with Life is Strange.
L377[15:28:07] <ve2dmn> You read the book, saw the movie or both?
L378[15:28:49] <tawny> I read the book
L379[15:29:22] <ve2dmn> If you didn't like the book, you are not missing anything by not watching the movie
L380[15:30:48] <ve2dmn> As opposed to the Martian movie were I think the book and the movie are different
L381[15:31:20] <ve2dmn> But I really want a Pathfinder for xmas :D
L382[15:31:27] <tawny> hahaha
L383[15:31:29] <tawny> don't we all
L384[15:31:41] <tawny> on a related topic, a wrinkle in time (one of the YA novels I have the fondest memories of) is getting a movie apparently!
L385[15:31:43] <ve2dmn> it's so cute
L386[15:32:00] * Scolar_Visari would really like 1:1 scale Mars Exploration Rover, albeit only for the Pu-238.
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L388[15:32:39] <Scolar_Visari> tawny: Meanwhile, I must still wait for an adaptation of Rendezvous with Rama.
L389[15:32:42] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: if it's a reproduction, it might be Puny-238 instead
L390[15:32:57] <tawny> ahhhh
L391[15:33:09] <tawny> I'm not so sure I want that, anymore
L392[15:33:21] <tawny> I'm too afraid whoever writes/directs it would just make it bad
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L394[15:34:10] <ve2dmn> tawny: you know that the author of The Fault in Our Stars has a youtube channel?
L395[15:34:32] <tawny> I think I heard about that
L396[15:34:51] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: Enough for my, erm, research purposes.
L397[15:34:59] <Supernovy> (by the way, our stars have no faults, they are fusing well within operational limits)
L398[15:35:04] <Scolar_Visari> The ULTIMATE Lava Lamp!
L399[15:35:07] <tawny> hahaha
L400[15:35:20] <ve2dmn> I liked his crash course history video
L401[15:35:52] <tawny> "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in our universe, that it has entropy"
L402[15:36:01] <Scolar_Visari> tawny: Given the well received nature of Arrival (the Amy Adams one, not the Charlie Sheen one), I think the world is prepared for a Rendezvous with Rama adaptation.
L403[15:36:17] <Supernovy> You get Bismuth-209 instead
L404[15:36:23] <tawny> oh, that is a good point, arrival was done rather well
L405[15:36:33] <tawny> I'm worried it'll end up more like gravity, but hopefully not
L406[15:36:36] <Supernovy> It's not so much radioactive, as radioactish
L407[15:36:49] <ve2dmn> link to example of crash course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhL5DCizj5c
L408[15:36:49] <kmath> YouTube - Coal, Steam, and The Industrial Revolution: Crash Course World History #32
L409[15:36:55] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy: Does it glow in the dark without an external power source?
L410[15:37:31] <Supernovy> It glows almost as brightly as Marie Curie's diary.
L411[15:37:32] <Scolar_Visari> tawny: It shouldn't be too hard. Just wide angle shots of a human spaceship drifting towards a giant cylinder.
L412[15:37:38] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy: Eh, close enough.
L413[15:44:49] <ve2dmn> btw, the reason I linked to that specific episode is that it help to remind me that we live in interesting times
L414[15:46:09] <Scolar_Visari> Psht, the most interesting time in history was when that one person invented fire.
L415[15:47:13] <ve2dmn> For most of humanity things were grim, life expectancy was low, most never travel very far and the vast majority of people were farmers...
L416[15:47:27] <ve2dmn> ... now I can watch a live stream from the ISS
L417[15:48:12] <ve2dmn> and talk with random people across the globe about my trip 10000km from home
L418[15:49:13] <ve2dmn> (I'm talking about with Japan trip with people from the Netherland in an other channel)
L419[15:49:17] <Scolar_Visari> Eh, life expectancy hasn't actually changed that much if you remove deaths during childbirth.
L420[15:49:54] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: I'm alive because of modern medecine. 150 years ago, my appendix would have killed me at 15
L421[15:49:56] <Scolar_Visari> And life *during* the industrial revolution did NOT improve. Lives got shorter and more brutal for people who made the transition from rural life to early modern cities.
L422[15:50:31] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: People sort of still die from that.
L423[15:50:45] <ve2dmn> True
L424[15:51:15] <ve2dmn> but it used to be fatal everywhere
L425[15:52:40] <tawny> also the whole childbirth thing itself is definitely way better than it used to be, which is nice
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L432[15:59:36] <transitbiker> frustrating that thrust lines are blocked by wings and control surfaces - in reality the exhaust would slipstream around the part
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L434[16:01:03] <transitbiker> wow, 17:00 and already dark out
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L444[16:34:05] <sandbox> supreme champion https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQVkvzdVwAAvLQy.jpg:large
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L448[16:51:00] <Leveller> hah
L449[16:51:06] <Leveller> NiceHash mining site is hacked.
L450[16:51:12] <Leveller> (bitcoin) sorry for offtopic.
L451[16:53:05] * QuantumRaptor quacks at sandbox
L452[16:53:16] <sandbox> speaking of bitcoin, valve are dropping it as a payment option
L453[16:53:34] <Leveller> oh.
L454[16:53:37] <Leveller> how sad.
L455[16:53:48] <KrazyKrl> That sarcasm though...
L456[16:53:49] <Leveller> i got "a few" as in part of a bitcoin.
L457[16:53:50] <Leveller> :P
L458[16:54:20] <Supernovy> not honks?
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L461[16:59:50] <QuantumRaptor> Oh, like a goose? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_goose#/media/File%3AKanadagans_Branta_canadensis.jpg
L462[17:00:38] <KrazyKrl> Around here, the geese are savage.
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L465[17:05:45] <tawny> I'm pretty sure they're savage everywhere
L466[17:06:08] <Supernovy> something something that vehicle has far too many canards
L467[17:06:47] <tawny> hahaha
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L470[17:08:37] <QuantumRaptor> nice
L471[17:09:32] <KrazyKrl> Canardida?
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L473[17:14:01] <FireFlower> i have made a discovery in IT
L474[17:14:13] <FireFlower> exFAT formatting matters on USB sticks!
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L476[17:14:31] <FireFlower> http://usbflashspeed.com/274288 vs http://usbflashspeed.com/274292
L477[17:15:08] <KrazyKrl> trading compatability for speed it seems.
L478[17:15:12] <KrazyKrl> sounds about right.
L479[17:15:57] <FireFlower> i thought exfat was pretty much supported by everything except DOS?
L480[17:16:30] <KrazyKrl> Well, it's been reverse engineered because it's a proprietary microsoft spec for SD cards.
L481[17:16:42] <KrazyKrl> Microsoft has the only "official" implementation.
L482[17:17:02] <FireFlower> i am pretty sure MACS were completely fine without any hiccups..
L483[17:17:18] <FireFlower> linux kernels used to have issues but those seem to be long gone also
L484[17:17:27] <FireFlower> like *cough* audio * cough* problems
L485[17:18:51] <KrazyKrl> The fact is... "there is no financial incentive for open-source vendors to purchase a license for these algorithms"
L486[17:19:14] <KrazyKrl> why would you need an extra MB/sec or so of write speed?
L487[17:19:54] <FireFlower> because small files are painful to transfer to stick when you're not paid hourly? :D
L488[17:21:02] <FireFlower> testing also my old USB 2.0 sticks
L489[17:21:06] <FireFlower> never tested them
L490[17:21:20] <KrazyKrl> zip them?
L491[17:21:57] <FireFlower> my oldest stick is pqi USB 2.0 4GB (used to be smallest in the market)
L492[17:22:10] <KrazyKrl> Also, are those sequential write blocks, random write blocks, or sector size of the formatted SD card?
L493[17:22:25] <FireFlower> write blocks
L494[17:22:29] <FireFlower> files are bigger
L495[17:22:37] <KrazyKrl> I have a USB 1.0 2GB that I paid $120 for like 20 years ago.
L496[17:22:47] <FireFlower> 2GB?
L497[17:22:52] <FireFlower> you mean 2MB? :D
L498[17:23:02] <FireFlower> My sister used to own 128MB USB 1.0 stick
L499[17:23:13] <KrazyKrl> it's a sandisk 2GB flash drive
L500[17:23:30] <FireFlower> 97 for 2GB..
L501[17:23:41] <FireFlower> for $120 it sounds cheap
L502[17:23:56] <FireFlower> I remember my computer internal 5.25" HDD was 4GB that time
L503[17:23:57] <KrazyKrl> yea, it was. and at the time 2GB was gigantic.
L504[17:24:12] <KrazyKrl> I used to use a powermac 5500 with a 1.5GB HDD :/
L505[17:24:26] <KrazyKrl> And my IBM XT has one of those $3000 10MB HDDS
L506[17:24:36] <FireFlower> I used to have Packard Bell Media PC (overkill by these days)
L507[17:24:59] <FireFlower> had pretty much anything you could imagine would be e-penis viagra these days
L508[17:25:03] <KrazyKrl> Dual 5" floppy drives, a 10MB HDD, and a modem. Someone put real money into this IBM XT.
L509[17:28:02] * QuantumRaptor is fairly certain that FireFlower is pushing the language rule
L510[17:28:05] <FireFlower> 16000 Finnish marks in 1996... 15" 1024x764 full color VGA monitor, Roland LAPC-I, Intel Pentium 1 "MMX" 200MHz, 32MB EDO-RAM, 4GB Seagate 5.25" drive, 2x 3.5" floppies, 8x CD-ROM drive, Analog TV, Virtual Fax & VOIP (BEFORE IT WAS A THING!), 36.8k MODEM, Windows 95 Packard Bell Edition (Customized by MS lol)
L511[17:28:22] <QuantumRaptor> (carry on with vintage computing)
L512[17:28:44] <FireFlower> Voodoo 2 and 3!
L513[17:29:00] <KrazyKrl> A video card?! wat
L514[17:29:02] <FireFlower> also
L515[17:29:09] <FireFlower> Video capturing card!
L516[17:29:38] <FireFlower> also dedicated game port, 2x USB 1.1 and 1 USB port at front panel!
L517[17:29:56] <FireFlower> IR remote to control mouse, phone or tv!
L518[17:30:17] <FireFlower> Good stereo speakers (no bass though)
L519[17:30:40] <KrazyKrl> iirc i went from a powermac 5500... to some weird athlon or 686 or something... to a pentium 4.
L520[17:30:46] <FireFlower> And the crazy thing is I had no idea we actually had the meanest machine in my home town :D
L521[17:31:21] <FireFlower> I was complaining my friend that his Duke Nukem 3D must be different version because sounds were totally "blant" (Cheap soundblaster Midi)
L522[17:31:32] <FireFlower> little did I know back then :D
L523[17:31:46] <KrazyKrl> I've only had like 5 computer systems in my life.
L524[17:32:14] <KrazyKrl> Well, along with the tens of other computers i've used.
L525[17:32:23] <KrazyKrl> At least I seem to have skipped windows Me.
L526[17:32:49] <KrazyKrl> (My engineering class was straight win2k pro NT.)
L527[17:33:03] <FireFlower> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr-84mjV3CI
L528[17:33:03] <kmath> YouTube - The Secret of Monkey Island with various sound cards
L529[17:33:32] <FireFlower> compare 1:32 and 4:50
L530[17:33:42] <FireFlower> that was my difference back then :D
L531[17:33:54] <KrazyKrl> Playing quake 3 on like $7000 CAD systems was funny though. "You mean this computer can run Quake at max?!"
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L533[17:34:22] <FireFlower> you mean you don't have SlideFX?
L534[17:34:36] <KrazyKrl> Along with the honkin massive CRT flat screen monitors.
L535[17:34:41] <KrazyKrl> Yes, CRT flat screen.
L536[17:35:03] <FireFlower> the weird thing people don't know anymore about SlideFX... it was a thing along with OpenGL and DirectX... though It was a way better!
L537[17:35:13] <FireFlower> better graphics, higher framerates :D
L538[17:35:15] <KrazyKrl> iirc these were OpenGL machines.
L539[17:35:31] <FireFlower> ah CRT flat screens
L540[17:35:50] <KrazyKrl> They weren't thin, or light, but the screen surface was flat.
L541[17:35:52] <FireFlower> never again going to take those to lan parties
L542[17:36:03] <KrazyKrl> They were probably 24" CRTs
L543[17:36:23] <FireFlower> it was kinda funny back in 2006 most people still were using CRT's
L544[17:36:37] <FireFlower> then 2009 suddenly majority all ready using TFT flats
L545[17:37:11] <KrazyKrl> Because they were shoved as new hardware by the manufacturers.
L546[17:37:26] <KrazyKrl> That's the main reason 4k gaming is a thing, instead of 144hz gaming.
L547[17:37:43] <KrazyKrl> it's much more expensive to run at 4k currently.
L548[17:37:47] <FireFlower> 4K is awesome on 42" monitor
L549[17:38:04] <FireFlower> pixel sniping got a whole new meaning that way :D
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L551[17:38:27] <FireFlower> I think our first PC was... Atari PC-1..
L552[17:38:54] <KrazyKrl> I had a ][e that we probably bought from the local elementary school for wholesale.
L553[17:38:56] <FireFlower> 5.25" floppy drive, I think it had EEROM as main storage to store OS..
L554[17:39:14] <KrazyKrl> it had dual external floppy drives :/
L555[17:39:28] <FireFlower> heh but did you have 1500b/s modem made by Nokia?
L556[17:39:44] <FireFlower> my Mother was the first ones in Finland to try working from home :D
L557[17:39:54] <FireFlower> that modem though :D
L558[17:39:59] <FireFlower> 1500b/s...
L559[17:40:29] <KrazyKrl> All that I can think about now, in regards to old modems... are scenes from Sneakers.
L560[17:40:43] <KrazyKrl> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105435/
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L573[18:12:42] <Fluburtur> I solved the bounce problem
L574[18:12:55] <Fluburtur> now I have to solve the problem of wing breaking off planes on load
L575[18:13:04] <Fluburtur> the airliner ones
L576[18:14:02] <KrazyKrl> "Solved the problem with the plane bouncing, it turns out the ground is rather hard." "Wing breaks off at speed, suggested solution is "Don't do that.""
L577[18:14:36] <Fluburtur> no
L578[18:14:46] <Fluburtur> I mean when the plane loads in while lnaded, the wings fly off
L579[18:14:57] <Fluburtur> but I think it's a problem specific to the airliner ones
L580[18:14:59] <Fluburtur> which sucks
L581[18:15:10] <KrazyKrl> More struts? More struts.
L582[18:15:14] <Fluburtur> eh
L583[18:15:20] <Fluburtur> I ragequit ksp at this point
L584[18:15:23] <Fluburtur> maybe tomorrow
L585[18:15:30] <KrazyKrl> It's probably a problem with large objects and unity physics :/
L586[18:15:41] <Fluburtur> I guess
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L597[18:36:07] <Fluburtur> http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2700
L598[18:43:15] <Iskierka> A pile of coasters on a table has to be a contender for worst secret door lever I've ever seen
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L610[19:32:36] <Mathuin> Fluburtur: It happens to *all* my planes, they leap into the air if they load while landed.
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L619[19:47:44] <FireFlower> also interesting
L620[19:47:50] <FireFlower> exFAT > NTFS
L621[19:49:03] <FireFlower> http://usbflashspeed.com/274311 http://usbflashspeed.com/274320
L622[19:49:15] <FireFlower> yeah i am going to roll with exFAT nowadays
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L668[22:05:05] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bigpepRH0i0
L669[22:05:05] <kmath> YouTube - THE FIVE WORST FIGHTER AIRCRAFT OF ALL TIME || WARTHOG 2017
L670[22:07:11] <QuantumRaptor> On my phone, what are they?
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L672[22:15:32] * QuantumRaptor guesses the F7U is one of them.
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L677[22:47:15] *** ergZay_ is now known as ergzay
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L680[23:09:16] <diveyez> Man, I haven’t launched anything in 4 months. I wonder if my mods still work.
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