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L2[00:13:16] <Warrigal_> I'm beginning to
feel like the maneuver node interface just might be
terrible...
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L4[00:13:32] <Warrigal_> All right, so, all
I want to do is modify a maneuver node.
L5[00:14:11] <Warrigal_> When I click on the
maneuver node to expand it, it immediately brings up the
"delete", "previous pass", and "next
pass" buttons.
L6[00:14:15] <tawny> this is why there are
like eight mods for improving maneuver nodes
L7[00:14:23] <tawny> but yeah it's not
great
L8[00:14:30] <Warrigal_> The
"previous" and "next" buttons are disabled; the
only button that's enabled is the "delete" button.
L9[00:14:48] <Warrigal_> I don't want to
delete the node, of course; I want to make the handles appear so I
can modify the node.
L10[00:16:01] <Warrigal_> As far as I can
tell, there's no way to make that happen.
L11[00:16:07] <Warrigal_> This is the first
time this has ever happened to me.
L12[00:16:49] <Warrigal_> Ohhhhhhh, I think
I know why. No pilots on board.
L13[00:17:41] <tawny> hahaha
L14[00:17:49] <tawny> and no probe cores
either?
L15[00:20:54] <Warrigal_> Nope.
L17[00:40:19] <kmath> YouTube - Pizza
Night!
L18[00:46:04] <JCB> plane design is a
little unusual... yet .. it flies so well...
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L23[00:59:56] <Warrigal_> Whelp. My rescue
mission was kind of successful?
L24[01:00:06] <Warrigal_> I had a pilot
stranded in orbit.
L25[01:00:16] <Warrigal_> So I sent up a
second pilot to rendezvous with the first pilot.
L26[01:00:55] <Warrigal_> Now... I suppose
either one of the two pilots would probably be able to get
home...
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L29[01:03:11] <bees> Warrigal_: send a
rescue mission to the rescue mission
L30[01:03:25] <bees> Warrigal_: or consider
this a start of the deep space habitat
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L35[01:36:01] <Warrigal_> Ohhhhhh, I'm a
dummy.
L36[01:36:10] <Warrigal_> Really the only
pilot I care about getting home is the 2-star pilot.
L37[01:36:13] <Warrigal_> The other pilot
is disposable.
L38[01:36:34] <Warrigal_> So, I just
thought of the perfect solution. Rescue the 2-star pilot and then
euthanize the other one.
L39[01:36:59] <Warrigal_> Of course, I
thought of that solution *immediately* after I made it impossible
by using up all my fuel.
L40[01:39:06] <tawny> get out and
push
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L44[02:02:08] <Warrigal_> All right, I've
made my decision as to how to resolve this situation.
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L47[02:04:58] <Warrigal_> Ronbas' capsule
has been renamed to "Ronbas Station".
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L49[02:06:08] <Warrigal_> I have a very
detailed and meaningful plan for Ronbas Station.
L50[02:06:10] <Warrigal_> Namely:
L51[02:06:21] <Warrigal_> Ronbas Station
shall remain in orbit until such time as Ronbas Station is no
longer in orbit.
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L57[02:08:54] <Blaank> Literally get out
and push.
L58[02:08:57] <Blaank> You can do
that.
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L81[03:23:27] <HotSpicySausage> : where can
i learn proper rocket design? Trying to make a proper mun lander
but I don't get enough delta-v, but if i add more fuel it becomes
to high CoM or too wide at the head of the rocket
L82[03:29:33] <Blaank> one sec
L83[03:32:01] <Ezko_> too high CoM?
L84[03:32:42] <Althego> how is that a
problem
L85[03:32:47] <Althego> that helps to keep
ti stable
L86[03:32:56] <HotSpicySausage> i mean for
the landing module
L87[03:32:59] <HotSpicySausage> where it
will tip over
L89[03:33:16] <Blaank> Change the payload
to whatever as long as it's under 3 or so tons.
L90[03:33:48] <Blaank> dv varies harshly by
payload but it's around 6km/s to 11km/s
L91[03:34:07] <Blaank> I may have a swivel
on there and heavy nosecones, parachuts for the boosters etc.
L94[03:34:43] <HotSpicySausage> this is
where i'm at
L95[03:36:48] <Blaank> I have no idea what
is going on there.
L96[03:36:57] <Blaank> Remove all the
batteries for starters.
L97[03:37:01] <Blaank> Horribly drag.
L98[03:37:01] <HotSpicySausage> i have life
support modules and storage containers for science stuff
L99[03:37:13] <HotSpicySausage> where else
would i put the batteries?
L100[03:37:28] <Blaank> Capsule has
electric charge
L101[03:37:44] <HotSpicySausage> it's not
enough with life support on
L102[03:37:47] <Blaank> Engine regens it.
I don't think you plan to go past sub-orbital hops without solar
panels.
L103[03:37:49] <Blaank> oh.
L104[03:37:53] <HotSpicySausage>
kerbalism
L105[03:38:01] <Blaank> I have no idea
what that is.
L106[03:38:18] <Blaank> I've used USI Life
Support and TAC Life Support.
L107[03:38:28] <Blaank> Stuff works for an
hour with no power.
L108[03:38:59] <Blaank> You should have
solar panels as one of your first things anyway.
L109[03:39:23] <HotSpicySausage> yeah but
for the dark side
L110[03:40:14] <Blaank> Put your batteries
inside payload storage.
L111[03:40:26] <Blaank> They are huge
sources of drag and have to be countered by lots of fins.
L112[03:40:39] <Blaank> They also slow the
rocket down a ton.
L113[03:41:22] <Blaank> It's well worth
the weight to have them inside a service module than hanging off
the outside.
L114[03:41:34] <Blaank> And if you have
fairings, you could use those.
L115[03:41:53] <Blaank> fairings almost
always increase dV due to reduced drag.
L116[03:42:27] <Blaank> You playing career
or science?
L117[03:43:30] <Ezko_> HotSpicySausage: i
think the problem is not enough batteries
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L119[03:44:05] <HotSpicySausage>
career
L120[03:45:29] <Blaank> ..... I don't have
KER installed.
L121[03:45:39] <Blaank> Well, so much for
getting good dV readouts.
L122[03:45:49] <Blaank> I'm rawdogging
it.
L123[03:48:02] <Blaank> Nope, this is
impossible to design it correctly. I have to ensure that TWR of
core stage is less than 1 during takeoff so the boosters pick up
the slack till fuel burns off and I can't do that with stock
tools.
L124[03:48:41] <Blaank> Ok, what is that
mod that lets you autostrut all to root?
L125[03:48:56] <Blaank> editor
extensions
L126[03:50:13] <Blaank> Basically stow all
your batteries you can inside the service bays or use less amounts
of fuel cells to cut drag and weight.
L127[03:50:34] <Blaank> fuel cells are
going to eat LFO but should be ok for short hauls.
L128[03:51:52] <Blaank> I do think KSP
would benefit from adding hydrogen as an additional propelling that
had lower density tanks but higher ISP and was required for fuel
cells.
L129[03:52:06] <Blaank> Then a water
storage tanks and you could turn water to HO
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L131[03:57:09] <Althego> there must be
some mod that does that
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L133[03:59:02] <Blaank> Huh... thought I
went too steep an ascent. Tipped over to 45 degrees at 5km and had
to mash my core stage early to keep from tipping over and dying but
I'm at a super steep and firey ascent and in constant fear of both
explosive overheating and falling back into the planet so I know
I'm doing it right.
L134[03:59:34] <Blaank> The most effecient
ascents have you in constant fear of exploding and falling back
into the planet at the same time and you redline your
nosecone.
L135[03:59:50] <Blaank> You can get into
orbit with 3km/s dV expended.
L136[04:00:25] <lpg> if the image you
posted is your rocket, you might have some large aerodynamic
issues
L137[04:03:25] <Blaank> I'm making an
updated version.
L139[04:04:59] <Blaank> Not sure if I can
get more dV out of firing the reliant from the ground or throttling
back the SRBs.
L140[04:05:32] <Blaank> It could benefit
from fiddling but works fine as it is using just SRBs to get into
the air and firing up the second stage about 30 sec before SRB
burnout.
L141[04:05:48] <Blaank> I can't add
another fuel tank without making it wobbly
L142[04:05:58] <Blaank> wobbly rockets are
bad juju
L143[04:07:54] <Blaank> Yeah, ton of ISP
lost from firing the liquid from the surface.
L144[04:07:56] <Althego> autostrutting the
solid boosters?
L145[04:08:02] <Blaank> always
L146[04:08:11] <Blaank> editor extentions,
autostrut all to root
L147[04:09:01] <Althego> you dont need
extensions for that
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L149[04:09:16] <Blaank> for 2 click strut
all to root, you do.
L150[04:09:21] <Althego> and since it is
connecting the center of mass it doesnt help as much as a real
strut would
L151[04:09:30] <Blaank> I never have
issues.
L152[04:09:45] <Blaank> It's like struts
don't exist anymore.
L153[04:09:53] <Althego> yes, you need 2
click in stock too
L154[04:09:56] <Blaank> The rockets are
just stable.
L155[04:10:06] <Blaank> Where is 2 click
for literally every part to root?
L156[04:10:23] <Blaank> I can strut 5000
parts to root in 2 clicks.
L157[04:10:28] <lpg> you should probably
just use a 2.5m rocket instead of 1.25m and four boosters
L158[04:10:43] <Blaank> This was lower
tech and cheaper.
L159[04:10:47] <tawny> HotSpicySausage,
you can always use part clipping to shove batteries inside a fuel
tank
L160[04:10:49] <Blaank> Can increment to
it.
L161[04:11:19] <HotSpicySausage> part
clipping?
L162[04:11:24] <Blaank> Thumpers, FL-T400
etc
L163[04:12:14] <HotSpicySausage> tawny,
how?
L164[04:12:16] <tawny> press 2 in the
editor to bring up adjustment controls, use those to move the
batteries into a fuel tank
L165[04:13:34] <kubi> Blaank: use join
reinforcements
L166[04:13:51] <Blaank> KJR is almost
stock at this point and can create really funky noodle
rockets.
L167[04:13:57] <Blaank> But it's been a
few years.
L168[04:14:12] <Blaank> I've seen my
stacks go slinky and not break.
L169[04:17:07] <Blaank> Do antenna put
mass on their root part or themself?
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L171[04:31:32] <Blaank> Anyway, the one i
linked works and second one with 2.5m parts works and is
cheaper.
L172[04:31:50] <Blaank> skipper + jumbo is
a good first stage for small ships.
L173[04:32:09] <Blaank> can easily kick a
terrier + FL-T800 into orbit.
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L181[04:57:04] <kmath> YouTube - 3 Part
Rocket Challenge - Grand Tour - Part 2 - Duna & Dres
L183[05:04:19] <kmath> YouTube - Q&A:
Measuring a Black Hole’s Spin and more. Featuring Andy Weir Author
of the Martian
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L191[05:29:01] <kmath> YouTube - Dog of
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L273[12:48:21] <BPlayer> Regarding the
Falcon 9 booster specifically, what benefits do cold gas thrusters
have over more traditional UDMH/NTO thrusters? Less damage in case
of trouble?
L274[12:49:31] <Althego> no, they are
probably safer and simpler
L275[12:49:34] <Althego> lower isp
L276[12:50:35] <BPlayer> Well, yeah, the
lower ISP is what is confusing me. I mean, IIRC we are talking
about ~90 s vs. ~180 s?
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L279[12:59:09] <APlayer> There you go.
Google something about thrusters and receive ads for solid rocket
boosters
L280[12:59:23] <Althego> lol
L281[12:59:26] <UmbralRaptor> bipropellant
RCS thrusters can break 300 s, IIRC
L282[12:59:31] <APlayer> (Did not even
know such stuff is advertised via Google)
L283[12:59:40] <UmbralRaptor>
ATKPlayer
L284[13:00:15] <APlayer> UmbralRaptor: I
googled cold gas thrusters, Wikipedia says Nitrogen ISP cannot go
beyond 76 s
L285[13:00:32] <APlayer> So we are talking
about a 4.5 + times difference
L286[13:01:13] <Althego> which doesnt
matter because it needs to do only really small changes
L287[13:01:56] <UmbralRaptor> Depends on
how much your attitude control engines overlap with main
propulsion.
L288[13:02:08] *
UmbralRaptor stares at Dawn.
L289[13:02:44] <Althego> "Cold gas
thrusters are mostly useful for vernier engines, and are employed
chiefly for simplicity and reliability."
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L291[13:07:47] <APlayer> Thank you, kOS.
Script effectively used the payload as a crushable soft-landing
structure, Schiaparelli style. Except upside down.
L292[13:09:52] <Althego> hehe
L293[13:10:22] <UmbralRaptor> Did a
burning bit of debris roll for a bit?
L294[13:10:40] <UmbralRaptor> (impact site
photos indicate that this actually happened!)
L295[13:12:16] <APlayer> Actually the top
bit of the payload just exploded, and the rest bounced around some
more, loosing a thruster here or there, but landed mostly
intact
L296[13:12:49] <APlayer> It was a KRASH
test so I simply restarted it with bugfixes, but it was funny
anyway
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L302[13:27:13] <Althego> os this taby's
star?
L303[13:27:27] <Fluburtur> yeah
L304[13:27:32] <Fluburtur> it's pretty
interesting
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L306[13:35:48] <UmbralRaptor> Althego: At
some point it becomes tempting to use meV for temperature.
L307[13:36:06] <Althego> hehe
L308[13:36:26] <Althego> molecule
speeds?
L309[13:38:11] <UmbralRaptor> Yeah
L310[13:38:17] <UmbralRaptor> ish
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L313[13:48:28] <Guest05569> a
L314[13:49:23] <UmbralRaptor> hi?
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L317[13:50:09] <Althego> with the long
one?
L318[13:50:45] <UmbralRaptor> Some random
Delta II era GEM.
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L331[14:52:29] <Mathuin> Is there an
elegant (in-game) way to attach key-value pairs to vessel parts or
stages?
L332[14:53:20] <Mathuin> For instance,
tagging first and second stages as "booster" and a third
stage as "lander" would help when writing scripts to
handle trips to the Mun.
L333[14:53:57] <Mathuin> Use the
"booster" stages for Kerbin->Mun, ditch them before
landing, use the "lander" stages for landing and return,
ditch them before landing on Kerbin.
L334[14:56:21] <APlayer> What do you mean
by tagging? kOS tags?
L335[14:57:50] <APlayer> I usually just
tag all relevant parts with the stage name, their function, any
sort of specific info and individual number, in this order and
skipping stuff if not applicable. (ex. s1-tank-radial-1). This way
I can access them with SHIP:PARTSTAGGEDPATTERN() with varying
degrees of detail
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L337[15:01:53] <Mathuin> By tagging I mean
any kind of key-value pair attached. I'm a fan of kRPC over kOS for
what it's worth.
L338[15:03:44] <APlayer> No idea about
kRPC, and fairly positive there is no stock way to attach any data
to a part. kOS adds a new module, named kOSNameTag, IIRC, and it
allows you to individually name parts. I'd imagine kRPC does a
similar thing, but never used it. In fact, you may just go ahead
and install both, kOS for the name tags, and kRPC for
scripting.
L339[15:04:36] <APlayer> Anyway, I've got
to go now. See you tomorrow!
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L344[15:18:40] <Mathuin> Thanks!
L345[15:20:43] <HotSpicySausage> Anyone
use FAR?
L346[15:20:58] <HotSpicySausage> My rocket
keeps flipping over and I think it's because of the fairings adding
drag
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L352[15:35:30] <Leveller> HotSpicySausage:
i like hotsauce.
L353[15:35:37] <Leveller> I got a few
thats very hot.
L354[15:35:42] <HotSpicySausage> lol
L355[15:42:22] <Blaank> Can we get a
master list of top 10 best KSP players?
L356[15:42:34] <Mathuin> I eagerly await
your metric
L358[15:44:30] <kmath> YouTube - To Eeloo
And Back With A 3.6 Ton Rocket! - KSP
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L362[15:49:14] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: Hello there fellow carbon based bipeds? Isn't
it a fine day to metabolize oxygen for energy? Why, I can even fill
oxygen filling my respiratory system right now! Why don't we go
meet up later and absorb nutrients through our multiple organ
digestive tracts?
L363[15:49:39] <Scolar_Visari> I almost
forgot to mention that I am mostly made up of water by mass, just
like you other humans!
L364[15:50:56] <Scolar_Visari> By the way,
do you other humans digest ammonia for nutrition or is that
chemically incompatible with us?
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L369[15:52:17] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
L370[15:53:43] <Scolar_Visari> Good
evening fellow carbon based biped! Say, do you also sense
particulate matter in the air with your olfactory organs?
L371[15:54:55] <Supernovy> What else would
I do with them?
L372[15:55:30] <Mathuin> Normalize the
temperature and humidity of the air entering your respiratory
system?
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L374[15:56:12] *
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fellow human, I am listening with my complicated system of auditory
organs!"
L375[15:56:23] <Scolar_Visari>
"Einstein's relativity has been disproved both logically and
experimentally. The most obvious fact disproving relativity is the
absolute time shown by the universally synchronized clocks on the
GPS satellites."
L376[15:56:36] *
Scolar_Visari thinks quoted person does not understand how GPS
satellites work.
L377[15:56:44] <Blaank_>
w........what
L378[15:56:52] <Blaank_> You mean the
clocks that adjust based on how fast they are traveling?
L379[15:57:08] <Blaank_> And have to
factor time dilation into their calculations?
L380[15:57:18] <Blaank_> I said the same
thing twice
L381[15:57:23] <Scolar_Visari> And the
position in a gravity well also changes their performance?
ABSURD!
L382[15:57:50] <Blaank_> I guess ones
closer to the moon get thrown off vs those away from the
moon.
L383[15:59:14] <Supernovy> I think it's
more clocks on the earth vs. clocks millions of kilometres above
it
L384[15:59:52] <Mathuin> So GPS receivers
would work on the near side, but they'd need to adjust the math for
being outside the sphere?
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L387[16:01:19] <Blaank> distance doesn't
change time passing but speed does. The sats are in orbit.
Geostationary ones are moving much faster than the surface.
L388[16:01:46] <Blaank> I think being on
the leading edge of the earth orbit around the sun vs the trailing
edge also changes velocity and I don't know how much.
L389[16:02:35] <Supernovy> doesn't change
velocity relative to the surface
L390[16:02:45] <Scolar_Visari> Mathuin:
Adjustments for gravitational time dilation are rather minimal in
the case of terrestrial GPS. That would change if you need a GPS
system for, ah, navigating a neutron star's surface I guess?
L391[16:03:07] <Supernovy> Which is the
important measurement for Relativity. The hint is in the
name.
L392[16:03:43] <Scolar_Visari> Relatively
speaking, neutron stars are whack.
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L396[16:04:54] <Supernovy> what's holding
the rod together, huh?
L397[16:05:04] *
Scolar_Visari claps their grasping appendages in animated amusement
as Arcaniator's rod of neutronium promptly explodes after leaving
the stable context of its resident star.
L398[16:05:25] <Scolar_Visari> Silly
carbon based biped, neutronium is likely not metastable! This may
or may not be a good thing.
L399[16:06:03] <Supernovy> mybe chuck a
rubber band around it. that might work.
L400[16:06:14] *
Scolar_Visari also begins to ponder how one would lift up a rod of
neutronium in the first place, given its enormous
density.
L401[16:08:29] <Scolar_Visari> Remember: A
mere nanoliter of neutronium has a mass of 1100 metric tons.
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L403[16:10:22] <Scolar_Visari> If they
were stable, however, they'd make excellent material for paper
weights.
L404[16:10:23] <Mathuin> Scolar_Visari:
I'm not worried about relativity, I'm worried about
trigonometry.
L405[16:11:05] <Scolar_Visari> Psht, just
move to a one dimensional universe if that's the case.
L406[16:11:56] <HotSpicySausage> the thing
i don't get about the navball is how are you even able to see if
your rocket is pointed at the maneuver vector when the other vector
markers are covering the maneuver vector marker?
L407[16:12:36] <Mathuin> I have often
thought it would be nice to disable certain vector markers.
L408[16:12:44] <Mathuin> Not enough to
actually make it go, mind you.
L409[16:13:15] <Scolar_Visari> What . . .
What is this . . . Bad Cop Bon Cop 2 . . . THEY MADE A SEQUEL AND
NO ONE TOLD ME!?
L410[16:13:39] <Scolar_Visari>
Ermagawdermagawdermagawd!
L411[16:14:16] <Scolar_Visari> Oh and
they're both on Netflix! I know what I'm watching back-to-back
tonight!
L412[16:19:11] <Scolar_Visari> And you
know what this one is about? They go to America! Oh jokes about
hockey, the inferiority of Canadian beer and the lack of universal
healthcare aplenty1
L413[16:20:56] <Scolar_Visari> And I only
had to wait ten years for a sequel to the best (and perhaps, only)
bilingual Canadian buddy cop comedy!
L414[16:26:33] <Scolar_Visari> You could
say I'm a big fan of the Canasploitation sub-sub-sub-genre.
L415[16:29:50] *
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L417[16:31:51] <Guest28847> aaaa
L418[16:32:10] <Guest28847> a aaa
L419[16:32:24] <Guest28847> a aaa
L420[16:32:27] <Guest28847> dedw
L421[16:32:29] <Guest28847> wqe
L422[16:32:30] <Guest28847> ??
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L425[16:45:37] <UmbralRaptor> …
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L427[16:49:14] <Kalpa> :(
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L429[16:51:24] <Kalpa> Supernovy:
Hello.
L430[16:51:33] <Kalpa> UmbralRaptor: Stop
the triple dotting!
L431[16:51:34] <Supernovy> hyvää iltaa
Kalpa
L432[16:51:52] <Supernovy> hyvää has
quadruple dots above it
L433[16:52:01] <Kalpa> That is silly as
well
L434[16:52:30] <Supernovy>
HotSpicySausage: You can turn off all of them except pro, retro,
and manoeuvre by switching to surface mode temporarily.
L435[16:52:50] <UmbralRaptor>
Kalpa:………
L436[16:52:55] <HotSpicySausage> yeah pro
and retro is in the way though
L437[16:53:00] <HotSpicySausage> that's
the problem @Supernovy
L438[16:53:36] <Kalpa> UmbralRaptor:
Triple triple dots? Surely this is madness
L439[16:54:18] <Kalpa> I should get some
sleep.
L440[16:54:27] <Kalpa> Alarm clock is in
less than 3 hours now.
L441[16:54:31] <Supernovy> a screenshot
would help
L442[16:55:10] <Kalpa> Problem is I'm
currently experiencing an episode of BPPV, already emptied my
stomach once, and now am afraid to go back to bed.
L443[16:56:07] <HotSpicySausage> I just
found out you can actually jump to different directions when on
ladders
L444[16:56:08] <HotSpicySausage> wtf
L445[16:56:17] <HotSpicySausage> Shift +
(W/S/A/D) + Space Jump to different directions when on
ladders
L446[16:56:29] <HotSpicySausage> when in
EVA
L447[16:59:43] <Supernovy> Oh yeah, forgot
about that. The Kerbal even looks different directions when on the
ladder
L448[17:04:50] <HotSpicySausage> omg
L449[17:04:59] <HotSpicySausage> my rocket
tipped on my landing
L450[17:05:03] <HotSpicySausage> D:
L451[17:05:09] <HotSpicySausage> no quick
load
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L460[17:18:51] <HotSpicySausage> how often
do kerbals get spawned/generated?
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L463[17:26:12] <Fluburtur> you can set
that when you create a save
L464[17:26:44] <Fluburtur> also, I should
get around to build the falken one day
L465[17:26:51] <Fluburtur> I have all the
tools and skills needed for that
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L467[17:36:06] <Eddi|zuHause> why do so
many paradox-soundtracks have 7/4 or 7/8 timing?
L468[17:36:36] <Eddi|zuHause> like in both
eu4 and stellaris
L469[17:37:57] <lpg> it's really fun to
write music in those signatures
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L471[17:39:33] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but
before that i have maybe ever heard 2 songs using that...
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L481[18:19:38] <kmath> YouTube - BPPV: Why
Is It Not Improving?
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L484[18:34:20] <HotSpicySausage> How can i
get planes to take off straight?
L485[18:34:37] <Kalpa> Balance the planes
perfectly
L486[18:35:04] <Fluburtur> take off
stright?
L487[18:35:15] <Fluburtur> what do you
mean?
L488[18:35:16] <UmbralRaptor> Landing gear
placement?
L489[18:35:37] <UmbralRaptor> Also,
canards are surprisingly helpful.
L490[18:35:43] <Kalpa> What's a
canard
L491[18:35:54] <Fluburtur> control surface
int he front of the plane
L492[18:35:55] <Kalpa> "An unfounded
rumour or story"
L493[18:36:05] <Fluburtur> you know the
rafale or the gripen?
L494[18:36:05] *
UmbralRaptor duct tapes theholyduck to the front of
HotSpicySausage's plane.
L497[18:36:16] <HotSpicySausage> the plane
keeps verring off the runway
L498[18:36:19] <Fluburtur> it's the tiny
wings on the nose
L499[18:36:20] <HotSpicySausage> wheels
should be straight
L500[18:36:26] <Fluburtur> that's bad
alnding gears then
L501[18:36:33] <Kalpa> UmbralRaptor:
theholyduck ? You sure you didn't want to duct tape me? :)
L502[18:36:39] <HotSpicySausage> added
another picture
L503[18:36:54] <HotSpicySausage> bad
landing gears? Fluburtur
L504[18:36:58] <theholyduck> Flappy
canards
L505[18:37:03] <Fluburtur> might be
bending
L506[18:37:11] <Fluburtur> I have planes
that fly well without sas if you want
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L509[18:38:34] <UmbralRaptor> Kalpa: well,
your nick isn't a punny?
L510[18:38:55] <ZooNamedGames> Hey
UmbralRaptor
L511[18:39:04] <UmbralRaptor> hi?
L512[18:39:11] <ZooNamedGames> Got a
question for you
L513[18:39:37] <Kalpa> UmbralRaptor: Well,
they hadn't said anything in a while, meanwhile I was teasing about
canards...
L514[18:40:11] <UmbralRaptor> hm
L515[18:40:25] <UmbralRaptor>
ZooNamedGames: okay, ask?
L516[18:40:35] <ZooNamedGames> I did, in a
IRC PM
L517[18:41:14] <ZooNamedGames> I hope you
can access that :/
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L519[18:42:05] <UmbralRaptor> … yes
L520[18:42:23] <HotSpicySausage> I think i
fixed my problem
L521[18:42:27] <HotSpicySausage> disabled
steering and SAS
L522[18:42:33] <HotSpicySausage> the
reaction wheels
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L534[19:50:23] <Fluburtur> kingsman 2 is
pretty good
L535[19:50:32] <Fluburtur> action scenes
still as good and over the top
L536[19:50:45] <Fluburtur> and Elton John
kicking S
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L540[20:06:59] <lpg> glorious
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L542[20:37:45] <Kalpa> Works
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L552[21:40:16] <ve2dmn> I know it's
probably not you type of game, but I've been playing 'Shadow
Tatics: Blades of the Shogun' and It's a nice Tatics Real Time
Strategy
L553[21:40:21] <ve2dmn> your*
L554[21:42:06] *
UmbralRaptor RTS, assumes that there's a bushi rush, or something
that dominates at all skill levels below semipro, and remains
viable there.
L555[21:42:19] <UmbralRaptor> s/RTS/hears
RTS/
L556[21:44:14] <ve2dmn> Think Thief, not
Starcarft
L557[21:44:43] <UmbralRaptor> First Person
Sneaker?
L558[21:44:50] <ve2dmn> You have a mission
and you need to be remain undetected if you want thinkgs to go
smoothly
L559[21:45:28] <ve2dmn> but it's an
overheard view popular with RTS games
L561[21:48:52] <HotSpicySausage> How can I
get RCS to only work for translation and not rotation?
L562[21:48:59] <HotSpicySausage> so i
don't waste propellant
L563[21:49:45] *
UmbralRaptor doesn't meet the minimum requirements.
L564[21:50:08] <UmbralRaptor>
HotSpicySausage: docking mode, maybe?
L565[21:50:46] <Arcanitor> that sounds
uncannily similar to another turn-based strategy game I saw
somewhere, but with a different theme
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L567[21:51:36] <ve2dmn> Arcanitor:
Commandos?
L568[21:53:05] <Arcanitor> it was some
techno dystopia thing
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L570[21:53:31] <ve2dmn> Invisible,
Inc.?
L571[21:53:40] <Arcanitor> that's the
one
L572[21:53:58] <ConductingCat> We live in
one.
L573[21:54:26] <Arcanitor> ConductingCat:
i've already used my political rant allocations for the day
L574[21:54:42] <ConductingCat> :3
L575[21:54:56] <Kalpa> Politics detected.
Purge. Purge. Purge.
L576[21:55:39] <ConductingCat> Soon we can
become Shadowrunners for real.
L577[21:55:49] <UmbralRaptor> Treason
detected. *ZAP!*
L578[21:55:53] <Arcanitor> i can argue
about one entirely non-political topic before i have to take a long
rest
L579[21:56:18] <Kalpa> Argue +
non-political, this makes no sense
L580[21:56:37] <UmbralRaptor> Kalpa:
Should pineapple go on pizzas?
L581[21:56:50] <ConductingCat> Does the
price of chocolate frogs count as political?
L582[21:56:57] <Kalpa> UmbralRaptor:
Absolutely yes.
L583[21:57:04] <UmbralRaptor> :D
L584[21:57:11] <Kalpa> And this is a
highly political topic.
L585[21:57:32] <Kalpa> I'm sure there's an
ananas pizza party (political party) somewhere in the world
L586[21:58:15] <Kalpa> Next up you'll be
wondering "What is this ananas he speaks of?"
L587[21:58:21] <Kalpa> Well that's what
the rest of the world calls pineapple
L588[21:59:41] <Arcanitor> pineapple only
goes on hawaiian pizza
L589[21:59:59] <Arcanitor> and hawaiian
pizza is only acceptable if there is no veggie pizza to be
had
L590[22:00:19] <ve2dmn> Hawaiian Pizza
isn't even from Hawaii. It was invented in Toronto
L591[22:00:32] <Kalpa> Whatever, there's a
pretty common toppings combination here called 'Americano', usually
involves 1) ananas 2) blue cheese 3) ham
L592[22:00:53] <ve2dmn> ... And why is it
called that?
L593[22:00:55] <UmbralRaptor> ve2dmn: that
feels like a line from Canadian Bacon.
L594[22:01:24] <Kalpa> Another common (and
rather delicious) one is 'Romeo', which is pretty much the same but
adds shrimp and replaces ham with salami
L595[22:01:38] <UmbralRaptor> Kalpa: 2
should be something like cheddar, and 3 should be bacon.
L596[22:01:40] <TheKosmonaut> Hawaiian
pizza is a travesty and is the single greatest crime to humanity in
all the universe’s history.
L597[22:01:45] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptor: even
better: the guy who invented it doesn't even makes his own pizza at
home. He buy frozen pizza because he 'made enough already'
L598[22:02:03] <UmbralRaptor> Hah!
L599[22:02:13] <Kalpa> UmbralRaptor:
Anything involving bacon more often than not gets labeled as
something 'BBQ', and usually comes with a generic bbq sauce
L600[22:02:23] <Kalpa> Of course pizza
joints are numerous, and the labeling varies a lot
L601[22:02:46] <Arcanitor> Kalpa: excuse
me while i find my +2 radiant shortsword so i can exterminate this
heresy
L602[22:03:54] <Kalpa> Bacon is one of the
more rare pizza toppings tbh
L603[22:04:43] <Kalpa> Your generic pizza
joint may have one or two house recipes with bacon, but ofttimes
it's just an option when you go full custom pizza
L604[22:04:45] <ve2dmn> Kalpa: I think
anchovies is the rarest where I am
L605[22:04:56] <bees> P O L I T I X
L606[22:05:04] <Kalpa> Oh yeah certainly
not same level of rarity as anchovies
L607[22:05:08] <Kalpa> They're virtually
non-existent nowadays
L608[22:05:10] <bees> (and yes, pineapple
pizza should be outlawed)
L609[22:05:26] <Kalpa> UmbralRaptor: This
will get out of hand, and it's all your own fault.
L610[22:07:07] <TheKosmonaut> If I become
Grand Poobah of the dominion of earth, I will make consumption and
creation of Hawaiian pizza punishable by death.
L611[22:07:19] <TheKosmonaut> Death by
pineapple juice bath
L612[22:08:03] <Kalpa> Does chicken egg go
on pizza?
L613[22:08:20] <TheKosmonaut> No
L614[22:08:42] <Kalpa> At least you have
some opinions right!
L615[22:08:56] <Kalpa> What about kebab
meat? I find kebab meat on pizza a sacrilege.
L616[22:09:13] <TheKosmonaut> They’re not
opinion. This is law under the Holy Grand Imperium and Dominion of
Terra
L617[22:09:14] <Kalpa> Although the
subject of what constitutes kebab meat is debatable on
itself...
L618[22:09:38] <TheKosmonaut> Literally
remove kebab from pizza
L619[22:10:20] <Kalpa> Darnit is this a
Europa Universalis joke... I'm not entirely sure >_>
L620[22:10:23] <ConductingCat> Pizza beast
egg
L621[22:10:26] <UmbralRaptor> Only
acceptable of it's a Mediterranean "pizza"
L622[22:10:29] <TheKosmonaut> Kalpa: that
too :P
L623[22:10:59] <Kalpa> UmbralRaptor: We
are || this close to balkan chat now
L624[22:11:06] <Kalpa> Look at what you've
done!
L625[22:11:06] <TheKosmonaut> Ottoman
Pizza, serving the best kebabzza since 1453
L626[22:12:21] <TheKosmonaut> Can’t have
Balkan chat if Balkan clay kebab clay
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L629[22:19:10] <ve2dmn> (sadly the
original Zombo.com required Flash)
L630[22:20:46] <Kalpa> Time to visit
bash.org
L631[22:20:58] <TheKosmonaut> Anything is
possible with Zombo ™
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L635[22:22:48] <Kalpa> Oh no, the
cynephobn is at it again
L636[22:23:53] <HotSpicySausage> Finally
landed on the mun and return to kerbin with all my realism mods and
no quick save
L637[22:23:59] <HotSpicySausage>
FINALLY
L638[22:25:31] <HotSpicySausage> My first
mun landing ended in a disaster with a flipped rocket when it was
already landed
L639[22:25:34] <HotSpicySausage> but it
tipped over
L640[22:25:46] <HotSpicySausage> where i
tried to take off while the rocket was on its side but it
exploded
L641[22:26:07] <HotSpicySausage> And
before that, I messed up the maneuver where i missed the mun
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L644[22:48:05] <Mathuin> TIL the Rapier
can "cruise" at 24k at 1km/s
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L648[22:54:51] <Mathuin> It's a race --
can my plane reach the waypoint before Advent of Code day four is
released
L649[22:55:43] <SnoopJeDi> OH YEA that
exists
L650[22:59:22] <lordcirth> Oh is it around
again? I only got to the end of day 1 last time
L651[23:02:48] <lpg> ooh, I should start
that
L652[23:05:58] <bees> Mathuin: it can
cruise at 22k at 1.5km/s
L653[23:13:40] <Mathuin> Done with the
challenges for today. Ranked 580 and 625 on this one.
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L657[23:28:42] <Mathuin> bees: that is one
heck of a bumpy ride
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L666[23:49:22] <Mathuin> And finally! That
super annoying contract is done.
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L668[23:50:41] <Mathuin> The next oldest
contract I have is extracting ore. I've never actually done
that.
L669[23:59:47] <Rolf> any location
requirements?