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L7[00:56:40] <Althego> ahahaha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoBIaM-nBeI
L8[00:56:41] <kmath> YouTube - Check.... Check.. Check.
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L11[01:17:37] <Glass|phone> so some teacher handed out a word document to all firdt year students which had the author's name set to "m.shinoda"
L12[01:18:08] <Glass|phone> this is better than the chinese power grid thing
L13[01:20:17] <Glass|phone> ...is it a crime against humanitu to use a non red icon for pdf
L14[01:20:23] <Glass|phone> *humanity
L15[01:31:31] <Althego> these last few lines make no sense to me
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L28[02:59:00] <Gasher[work]> aaaa awtf
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L30[03:02:00] <Gasher[work]> contract for saving a kerbal made him appear on suborbital trajectory
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L38[03:14:10] <Althego> lol
L39[03:14:17] <Althego> i havent seen that before
L40[03:14:33] <Althego> modify the the trajectory to an orbit
L41[03:14:42] <Gasher[work]> i replayed that and he is lost again
L42[03:14:49] <Gasher[work]> seems like a bug of some kind
L43[03:14:57] <Gasher[work]> no, what lost is lost
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L45[03:29:50] <TheKosmonaut> Gasher[work]: suborbital over kerbin?
L46[03:29:57] <Gasher[work]> yes
L47[03:30:03] <TheKosmonaut> That would be... quite a challenge.
L48[03:30:16] <TheKosmonaut> A claw equipped interceptor.
L49[03:30:17] <Gasher[work]> it looked like a complete orbit at once but then it changed to suborbital
L50[03:30:22] <Gasher[work]> why klaw
L51[03:30:42] <Gasher[work]> it was still outside atmosphere, so it could be possible
L52[03:30:50] <TheKosmonaut> Gasher[work]: i was thinking if he’s inside a pod, you’d just ram his pod as it falls through the atmosphere. Haha. In a jet.
L53[03:30:51] <Gasher[work]> * could have been lol
L54[03:32:24] <Gasher[work]> TheKosmonaut, what was that word for such assisted landing?
L55[03:33:02] <TheKosmonaut> For planes?
L56[03:33:16] <TheKosmonaut> Or you mean for mid-Air retrieval
L57[03:34:08] <Gasher[work]> that, right
L58[03:44:52] <TheKosmonaut> I wish they just appropriated the term Sky Hook for that stuff
L59[03:45:32] <Althego> sky hook sounds like an air pirate :)
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L67[04:36:07] <Gasher[work]> TheKosmonaut, i read wiki article about that satellite - Corona and it says that initial films that were recovered had defects like bright spots because of corona discharges lol
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L86[06:45:51] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/e7305b7764b21727da4a413010f1d6d2/tumblr_oq5d5ulsmp1qzhjh2o1_540.jpg snek
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L89[06:47:35] <Rolf> Fluburtur: welcome to madness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-kv_Oo4qfo
L90[06:47:35] <kmath> YouTube - Duck Feeding The Koi Fish
L91[06:47:55] <Fluburtur> what a nice lil duck
L92[06:48:14] <Rolf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIviEsVyz8M
L93[06:48:15] <kmath> YouTube - Swans feeding koicarp
L94[06:49:44] <Rolf> "feed us or we eat you"
L95[06:49:59] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/f813a622ae6f9e10b7ee97200f808da9/tumblr_oudkflmdA51uvv5gho4_540.jpg
L96[06:50:59] <Rolf> http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/i/MSNBC/Components/Video/__NEW/f_ots_brave_cat_150624.jpg
L97[06:51:11] <Fluburtur> it's aunt carol
L98[06:51:20] <Rolf> someone posted this http://picpaste.com/pics/23915574_10214059468023580_266485235170526649_n-pIuHFxVi.1512042024.jpg
L99[06:51:32] <Rolf> "who lost this tabby cat(?)"
L100[06:51:34] <Fluburtur> strong kitten
L101[06:51:38] <Rolf> err no thats wild puma...
L102[06:51:51] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/1f423324485d0277c93da7d9c6fccc38/tumblr_ozuv8nmE8y1v4qe09o1_540.jpg
L103[06:52:21] <Rolf> imanage managing to bathe puma when most normal size cats would strach or bite
L104[06:52:38] <Fluburtur> because it is good boy
L105[06:52:43] <Rolf> lol
L106[06:53:30] <Fluburtur> most big cats are actually really nice
L107[06:53:39] <Fluburtur> I know that from the gifs I saw on tumblr
L108[06:54:14] <Rolf> btw dont ever release carp species (like goldfish!) into lakes or rivers
L109[06:54:22] <Rolf> they wheck ecosystems.
L110[06:55:05] <Truga> big cats aren't scared for their life when they pet you
L111[06:55:29] <Fluburtur> my cat isn't scraed for her life
L112[06:55:50] <Fluburtur> I can grab her and carry her around and she will be like "heck yeah im a princess I rule this house"
L113[06:58:12] <Fluburtur> also are there still peoples that think that cats don't love us?
L114[06:58:16] <Fluburtur> because it's clearly not the case
L115[07:03:13] <Fluburtur> also I weighted the 1.2m wing I build
L116[07:03:23] <Fluburtur> airframe alone weights 312 grams
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L119[07:34:22] <Althego> hehe you say it as if it was something heaVY
L120[07:35:24] <Fluburtur> nah it's actually pretty light
L121[07:35:35] <Fluburtur> will probably be uner 1kg with everything inside
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L130[08:21:50] <GlsFrg|phone> "man annoyed at morning rush trains, steals garbage truck"
L131[08:29:36] <Iskierka> https://i.imgur.com/9XG2GFW.jpg
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L136[08:45:09] <Fluburtur> http://justafantembun.tumblr.com/post/168078562794
L137[08:51:40] <Althego> http://deliajones.tumblr.com/post/167940620649
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L147[09:11:32] <ve2dmn> I know I'm late to the party, but 'I am Setsuna' on the Nintendo Switch has great piano music
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L153[09:12:17] <ve2dmn> (It's my new 'on transit' game that I play while heading to and from work)
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L177[10:17:18] <Guest67060> hey all, is anyone using twitch to install mods?
L178[10:17:58] <Arcanitor> no?
L179[10:18:01] <Arcanitor> why would you?
L180[10:18:13] <Guest67060> its pretty easy to use tbh
L181[10:18:25] <Arcanitor> last i checked CKAN was the way to go for mod installers
L182[10:18:28] <Guest67060> although, i guess as its not working, its not easy to use...
L183[10:19:19] <Arcanitor> if this twitch thing is anything like the MC twitch launcher my (admittedly biased) recommendation is to avoid it like the plague
L184[10:19:31] <Fluburtur> ;tell Draconiator u here?
L185[10:19:31] <kmath> Fluburtur: I'll let draconiator know when I see them
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L187[10:25:44] <Guest67060> any recomendations for mods good at making the graphics more realistic?
L188[10:28:00] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/TzC1AXaA30w
L189[10:28:01] <kmath> YouTube - 2016 0701 173000 065
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L194[10:51:59] <ve2dmn> I don't understand. Twitch is a streaming service, not a mod manager...
L195[10:53:31] <ve2dmn> why would you include that fonctionality inside a streaming client?
L196[10:53:48] <Arcanitor> twitch owns curse now
L197[10:53:55] <Arcanitor> curse is a mod hosting platform
L198[10:54:27] <kuzetsa> I see. I did not curse was owned by twitch now.
L199[10:54:31] <kuzetsa> *know
L200[10:54:38] <Arcanitor> the more people they can get to use their launcher, the more analytics data they can seel
L201[10:54:39] <Arcanitor> *sell
L202[10:55:03] <Arcanitor> I don't think anybody really made a big deal about it outside of /r/feedthebeast
L203[10:55:14] <kuzetsa> still, it seems plausible the UI may have changed on something to now say twitch instead of (or in addition to) curse
L204[10:55:46] <kuzetsa> ArcadeEngineer: is my client malfunctioning? I thought FTB = minecraft (via forge modloader)
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L222[11:45:21] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKn5lydAZ6k
L223[11:45:22] <kmath> YouTube - Stairway To Heaven (Gregorian version)
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L226[11:52:49] <Deddly> I forgot how to rename vessels that are already active
L227[12:03:09] <Mathuin> I thought it was right-click or something from the tracking station
L228[12:03:36] <Deddly> I'll have a look, thanks. Landing right now, though
L229[12:06:22] <Althego> i think it is in the part action window of a command part, like probe core or capsule
L230[12:07:26] <Arcanitor> Deddly: right click a command part
L231[12:08:01] <Deddly> Aha, you're right. Thanks everyone!
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L233[12:10:31] <Mathuin> Arcanitor: TIL thanks!
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L245[13:32:50] <Althego> new video in the nuclear series from scott
L246[13:35:07] <ve2dmn> The power of the atom
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L248[13:35:16] <Althego> atom ant
L249[13:35:56] <ve2dmn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjlJ2F646bA
L250[13:35:56] <kmath> YouTube - Atom And Evil - Golden Gate Quartet
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L252[13:39:05] <Althego> hehe, and top comment on the nuclear video: When you do nuclear science CHECK YO STAGIN!
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L260[14:16:12] <Guest81329> yo yo
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L264[14:23:13] <ve2dmn> good evening
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L267[14:25:57] <Althego> can somebody put into the topic "check yo stagin"
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L275[14:55:22] *** Deddly changes topic to 'Kerbal Space Program 1.3.1 official channel | Rules: http://archive.is/qxocq | PM ops as needed | ΔV map: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png | The opinions expressed here are those of the authors and do not reflect those of SQUAD | Check yo stagin'
L276[14:58:39] <sandbox> :P
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L280[15:25:48] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Thank you Jebediah! But our princess is in another space station!
L281[15:30:08] <ve2dmn> who would be space Bowser? The Kraken?
L282[15:30:55] <Scolar_Visari> Bob, of course.
L283[15:30:59] <Scolar_Visari> He's always stealing snacks
L284[15:32:53] <Scolar_Visari> Moar on icy planetoid geological activity https://phys.org/news/2017-12-orbital-oceans-icy-worlds.html
L285[15:36:09] <ve2dmn> who are the current leading researcher on exoplanets?
L286[15:36:34] <Scolar_Visari> It's more of a team effort.
L287[15:37:28] <ve2dmn> like most modern science
L288[15:38:36] <Scolar_Visari> At the moment, I wouldn't go so far as to saying anyone is a leading expert on exoplanets yet. The field is really still in its infancy, and there are quite a few discoveries awaiting confirmation.
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L290[15:39:20] <Scolar_Visari> And then there's that matter on conflicting models for habitable worlds (is tidal locking good or bad? Insufficient data, models can't agree, but it is a fun map mode in Beyond Earth).
L291[15:40:46] <Scolar_Visari> Which reminds me: I really need a desert planet map for Civilization V. Sandstorm isn't quite the same thing as playing on Kharak.
L292[15:41:31] <ve2dmn> cuz I was browsing the university's physic departement list of staff and I stumbled upon an 'expert' on exoplanets
L293[15:41:51] * Scolar_Visari also laments the reality that climate models cannot account for what geology is describing on Mars.
L294[15:42:18] <ve2dmn> Really, he's an expert on high resolution imagery in infrared spectrum...
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L297[15:42:55] * Scolar_Visari giggles at the thought of an "expert" writing a paper on an exoplanet discovery, only to have it subsequently disproven by another followup observation.
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L299[15:48:20] <Scolar_Visari> Huh, so there's a Tatooine map.
L300[15:48:58] <ve2dmn> I'm really just looking for someone to talk to over lunch about how orbits works
L301[15:49:08] <ve2dmn> (I work on campus)
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L304[15:49:28] <SnoopJeDi> speaking of "expert" papers https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/universe-conscious-ncna772956
L305[15:51:14] <SnoopJeDi> Although that's being a little unfair, the guy has done more grounded work. But still, conscious stars is a liiiittle out there.
L306[15:51:16] <Scolar_Visari> Huh. My crackpot alarm went off.
L307[15:51:25] <ve2dmn> ^
L308[15:51:34] <Scolar_Visari> SnoopJeDi: Unless he's on to the star vampyres: The Ctan.
L309[15:51:50] <Scolar_Visari> In which case, we should be fearing the Necron invasion 40,000 years into the future.
L310[15:51:52] <SnoopJeDi> I didn't read the paper, the abstract was not pants-on-head crazy but still pretty out there
L311[15:52:15] <SnoopJeDi> It doesn't pass the Occam's Razor sniff test
L312[15:52:20] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: Ctan? From W40k ?
L313[15:52:37] <SnoopJeDi> dark matter isn't a beautiful conjecture, but it's less ugly than "stars change their own velocity in a universally consistent profile"
L314[15:52:52] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: Yes, the Ctan consumed stars prior to their discovery by the Necrontyr.
L315[15:53:00] <Scolar_Visari> SnoopJeDi: Psht. WIMPs are beautiful!
L316[15:53:11] <Scolar_Visari> Don't listen to them my little particles.
L317[15:53:31] <SnoopJeDi> I didn't mean the ideas for what dark matter could *be*
L318[15:53:36] <SnoopJeDi> I mean the very idea that it's a thing
L319[15:53:48] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: in my field WIMP is short for Windows+IIS+MsSQL+Php
L320[15:53:54] <SnoopJeDi> a la Vera Rubin
L321[15:54:10] <SnoopJeDi> ...we should call any dark matter particle a rubino
L322[15:54:47] * Scolar_Visari remembers the amusing manner in which MOND is still championed.
L323[15:55:04] <SnoopJeDi> I didn't know MACHOs were a thing until a recent talk about progress in DM searches
L324[15:55:12] <SnoopJeDi> (which reviewed the history of the field in good detail)
L325[15:55:18] <Scolar_Visari> SnoopJeDi: Well they *were* a thing.
L326[15:55:25] <SnoopJeDi> yes, that's what I just said
L327[15:56:05] <Scolar_Visari> MOND are usually the first things anti-Dark Matter people tend to mention, ignoring that they'd still be covered under the term!
L328[15:56:09] <Scolar_Visari> Er, MACHOs I mean.
L329[15:56:54] <Scolar_Visari> "What if it's just black holes and dim stars!?" "Then that would be dark matter." "Nu-uh!"
L330[15:58:10] <Scolar_Visari> After that scathing rebuttal, I just resort to the disintegration gun argument and wash my hands of the matter. Literally, of course. Dust from vaporized targets gets everywhere and that carbon is a pain to clean off
L331[15:58:12] <SnoopJeDi> I would hesitate to call anything that could be called a "dim star" dark but alas
L332[15:59:14] <Scolar_Visari> SnoopJedi: The issue came up a lot when the number of estimated m-type stars was increased in the past decade or so after observations.
L333[15:59:39] <Scolar_Visari> Remember, they're still rather dim from Earth to the point where we can't observe them at all without optics!
L334[16:01:02] <SnoopJeDi> Right but dark ≠ "we can't observe them"
L335[16:01:15] <kuzetsa> "strong force" goes sideways / weird things happening with quarks and the relevant weird amounts of energy = dark magi...err, matter
L336[16:01:19] <SnoopJeDi> it means the photons just literally aren't there
L337[16:01:49] <SnoopJeDi> modulo dark stuff that is weak I guess, but I have a hard time believing anyone can cook up anything like that you'd call a "star?"
L338[16:01:54] <SnoopJeDi> hydrodynamics being what it is
L339[16:02:04] <Scolar_Visari> SnoopJeDi: Amusingly, most models of WIMPs don't have them completely dark, either. They're just really dim.
L340[16:02:39] <SnoopJeDi> I'm unaware of any WIMP star, but I'm not an astrophysicist so if that's a thing I'd appreciate a reference
L341[16:02:45] <SnoopJeDi> WIMP star model*
L342[16:02:52] <Scolar_Visari> Not stars, but rather their particle annihilation events.
L343[16:03:09] <Scolar_Visari> It's, ahem, generally hoped that WIMPs are their own antiparticles and they should generate a distinctive glow from annihilation events.
L344[16:03:17] <SnoopJeDi> that's another matter entirely
L345[16:03:27] <SnoopJeDi> but yes, hence their name heh
L346[16:03:28] <Scolar_Visari> A weakly interacting matter, you might say.
L347[16:03:44] <SnoopJeDi> I'm speaking only about the "dim star" thing you brought up
L348[16:04:10] <SnoopJeDi> I can't stretch my brain around anything that would satisfy both that description and also "dark"
L349[16:04:12] <Scolar_Visari> Yeah, m-types are quite dim in the grand scheme of things and the number of estimated m-types has gone over the years thanks to better observations.
L350[16:04:31] <Scolar_Visari> Though MACHOs would also include brown dwarves (a lot of them, really) and unreasonably large numbers of black holes.
L351[16:04:34] <SnoopJeDi> but I guess the vagueness of "dark" is to blame for that
L352[16:04:43] <SnoopJeDi> leaving aside the whole issue of that not solving the rotational velocity problem at all
L353[16:04:44] <Scolar_Visari> It's a purposefully nebulous term.
L354[16:04:58] <Scolar_Visari> Remember, dark matter is a placeholder name.
L355[16:05:08] <SnoopJeDi> for a very specific property...
L356[16:05:22] <Scolar_Visari> And it's not just rotational velocity. If it were that, MOND would still be viable.
L357[16:05:36] <SnoopJeDi> you're rather missing my point
L358[16:05:41] <Scolar_Visari> What point?
L359[16:05:46] <SnoopJeDi> indeed.
L360[16:05:54] <Scolar_Visari> No, seriously, what point?
L361[16:05:59] <SnoopJeDi> ^
L362[16:06:31] <Scolar_Visari> Is there a point other than you don't like Dark Matter?
L363[16:06:39] <SnoopJeDi> namely: "I have a hard time believing anyone can cook up anything like that you'd call a "star?""
L364[16:07:14] <SnoopJeDi> who said anything about not liking dark matter...?
L365[16:07:17] <Scolar_Visari> Why do you have a problem with dwarf stars being dim?
L366[16:07:18] <SnoopJeDi> bah, nevermind.
L367[16:07:45] <SnoopJeDi> I feel I've made myself sufficiently clear about the issue that the vernacular meaning of "dark" and the word "star" are at rather cross ends.
L368[16:08:22] <SnoopJeDi> dwarf stars are most certainly in the realm of hydrodynamics, a place sufficiently dark-y matter would not be treading under any formulation I'm familiar with. I was hoping I'd misunderstood something
L369[16:09:24] <Scolar_Visari> I think you should have your Babel Fish checked. Or, hold on . . . It's taking my Esperanto and spitting it out in English?
L370[16:09:39] <Scolar_Visari> Last time I pick up translators from Craigslist.
L371[16:12:01] * Scolar_Visari fearfully notes that the sixth most downloaded mod for Civilization V is The Third Reich.
L372[16:13:41] <Mathuin> It's possible people are looking for "bad guys" :-)
L373[16:13:59] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/VscDLKQnpQk?t=48
L374[16:13:59] <kmath> YouTube - Huge Rc Kalinin K-7 CCCP,6m Wingspan and 7 Motors at Kulmer Air Show 2014 Pilot is Rainer Mattle
L375[16:14:12] <Kalpa> Wehraboos are a thing
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L377[16:15:11] <Kalpa> Also I'd rather our prospective wannabe dictators play out their fantasies in videogames instead of actually engaging in politics. So go ahead, keep downloading the third reichs.
L378[16:16:06] <Rokker> Scolar_Visari: um... fearfully? why fearfully?
L379[16:16:30] <Rokker> omg people play as Nazis in Call of Duty multiplayer
L380[16:17:00] <Scolar_Visari> Kalpa: We don't want them to get training.
L381[16:17:03] <Rokker> and as we all know, people copy what they do in video games in real life (remember, video games cause violence)
L382[16:17:18] <Rokker> Scolar_Visari: ok Tipper Gore, slow down
L383[16:18:41] <Scolar_Visari> Rokker: One would expect fascists in a game about World War II. One, however, pauses when fans make their own mods when there's already a Germany in the game.
L384[16:19:00] <Mathuin> "They got it wrong!" is the reason most Civ mods exist
L385[16:19:00] <Scolar_Visari> Also: Why replace Bismarck with an Austria Corporal?
L386[16:19:42] <Scolar_Visari> That's, like, replacing George Washington with William Henry Harrison.
L387[16:20:02] <Rokker> Scolar_Visari: oh please. intentional ignorance will not help you win this argument.
L388[16:20:24] <Rokker> there is an inherent fascination with a powerful regime such as Nazi Germany
L389[16:20:39] <Rokker> one that's not necessarily tied to it's politics
L390[16:20:44] <Rokker> and I know you know this
L391[16:20:49] <Scolar_Visari> Powerful in that it was mostly successful in killing unarmed people?
L392[16:20:51] <Kalpa> Not to mention the inherent fascination with some completely artificial people, such as the Americans
L393[16:21:02] <Rokker> don't play dumb to make some virtuous point
L394[16:21:31] <Rokker> Scolar_Visari: powerful in that it conquered a significant portion of europe
L395[16:21:41] <Rokker> again
L396[16:22:03] <Rokker> stop playing dumb
L397[16:22:10] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372444178510249998/386275548013395980/20171201224153_1.jpg
L398[16:22:12] <sandbox> you should probably stop this
L399[16:22:43] <Kalpa> Fluburtur: That doesn't look like World of Warplanes... what is it?
L400[16:22:53] <Rokker> Kalpa: war thunder
L401[16:23:09] <Kalpa> ...right, maybe I should've guessed that much
L402[16:23:44] <Scolar_Visari> Kalpa: It'll get confusing when a third such multi-vehicle simulator shows up with an equally similar name.
L403[16:23:58] <Scolar_Visari> "Warplane Thunder" "World of WarTanks"
L404[16:25:11] <legion> don't forget ships...
L405[16:25:38] <Scolar_Visari> World of Warspaceships!
L406[16:25:43] <Scolar_Visari> Complete with orbital bombardment!
L407[16:27:02] <Scolar_Visari> Oh, wait, EVE sort of did that with its FPS crossover.
L408[16:27:17] <legion> that'd be Fractured Space or Dreadnought
L409[16:29:19] <Scolar_Visari> Fractured Land combat!
L410[16:30:07] <legion> that is Crossout.
L411[16:30:18] <legion> or armored warfare
L412[16:31:20] <Scolar_Visari> Though there would be a big gap between player controlled tanks and player controlled space battleships with multi-kiloton missiles.
L413[16:31:51] * Scolar_Visari envisions a scenario where an entire map's worth of players are wiped out because of a single missed shot.
L414[16:32:03] <Mathuin> I've seen that happen in world of warcraft raids
L415[16:32:21] <Scolar_Visari> Wait, Sister Ray's in World of Warcraft for use against bosses?
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L417[16:39:45] <Scolar_Visari> That would be rather neat. Having a giant magical cannon fire on big bosses.
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L421[16:46:19] <Scolar_Visari> With the chance of collateral. Extreme collateral. Like, "oops, we missed and destroyed that city" collateral.
L422[16:51:28] <Scolar_Visari> Shin Ra energy corporation would be proud, of course. One cannot make materia omelets without cracking a few Mako eggs.
L423[16:53:11] <UmbralRaptor> I'd ask for finned crowbars, but given that you'd have to wait 40ish minutes for them to hit…
L424[16:53:12] <Scolar_Visari> Until the Mako drains Planet of its life energy, of course.
L425[16:53:46] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptor: The more I think about those, the more I think terminal guidance would be an issue.
L426[16:54:50] <Scolar_Visari> At least nuclear bombs have a considerable blast radius to compensate if they're not spot on. A space crowbar? Not so much.
L427[16:55:58] <Scolar_Visari> And if you're making the fastest entry possible, I imagine that would preclude strong course corrections ala Soyuz capsule reentry.
L428[16:59:01] <Scolar_Visari> Obviously calling in Meteor would be more effective, if you had the right materia.
L429[16:59:24] <UmbralRaptor> <_<
L430[17:00:56] <Scolar_Visari> Or Bahamut Zero. You know, the space dragon.
L431[17:04:54] <Scolar_Visari> "Sir, contact's been made with enemy armored assets on grid 2B! Requesting fire support on that position!" "Acknowledged, we're having SOLDIER summon Bahamut Zero!"
L432[17:04:55] <UmbralRaptor> The Void Dragon?
L433[17:05:39] <Scolar_Visari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sq1wDJwJg0
L434[17:05:39] <kmath> YouTube - Final Fantasy VII Summon: 15 Bahamut Zero
L435[17:06:14] <Scolar_Visari> The summon animation is misleading. One would hope that it would annihlate small countries every use, but no such thing occurs.
L436[17:06:25] <Scolar_Visari> That would've saved me a lot of trouble late game.
L437[17:08:33] <UmbralRaptor> Destroying the world would make space travel either much easier or much harder.
L438[17:10:52] <Scolar_Visari> Don't worry, the world's debris will accrete into Earth 2.
L439[17:11:17] <Scolar_Visari> Earth 1 itself having a prequel: Theia.
L440[17:11:49] <Scolar_Visari> That Moon was a great twist, I must say.
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L442[17:17:24] <Rolf> I still remember ff7 game, bad boss caused sun to nuke, after the effects, one of my charactors somehow dodged the nova. saved rest of party heh
L443[17:18:45] <Rolf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTc9sLmOR0A
L444[17:18:45] <kmath> YouTube - Final Fantasy VII - #61 - Sephiroth's Super Nova
L445[17:19:07] <Scolar_Visari> I have the original PC version CD set somewhere around here, plus the manual.
L446[17:19:36] * Scolar_Visari distinctly recalls the character's blood types being provided in their bios.
L447[17:20:10] <Scolar_Visari> Because if there's something I need to know, it's blood types among fantasy characters where death itself can be cured with an over-the-counter non-prescription drug.
L448[17:21:10] <Rolf> lol
L449[17:21:43] <Rolf> the wolf thing (forgot specific name) have father stuck in stone, and I had potions for de-stoning. no, I cannot use it on his father...
L450[17:22:18] <Scolar_Visari> Red XIII.
L451[17:22:45] <Rolf> same for that lady. why cant I use portex(sp) downs??
L452[17:22:46] <Scolar_Visari> I normally just got rid of the XIII in the naming screen because saying that every time would be a mouthful.
L453[17:23:03] <Scolar_Visari> Aeris, spelt Aerith in subsequent spinoffs and re-releases.
L454[17:23:21] <Scolar_Visari> Wow . . . I remember a lot of this game despite not liking it that much.
L455[17:23:21] <KrazyKrl> Because phoenix downs cure KO... you don't die in combat.
L456[17:23:36] <Rolf> I think I named wolf just "red"
L457[17:23:45] <Rolf> KrazyKrl: really? oh
L458[17:23:46] <KrazyKrl> iirc I named mine terry
L459[17:23:48] <Scolar_Visari> KrazyKrl: I have no idea how one would survive a Shin-Ra machine gun to the face to zero health.
L460[17:24:04] <Rolf> let alone the nova!!
L461[17:24:12] <Scolar_Visari> "Don't worry, Cloud's alright. He just got knocked out is all."
L462[17:24:42] <KrazyKrl> "He just took about 45,000 damage from KotR. Don't worry, he just passed out."
L463[17:26:19] <Rolf> how the flipping... can charactor dodge the nova? lol
L464[17:26:29] <Scolar_Visari> They need Mordheim rules to the next Final Fantasy game with permanent death.
L465[17:26:46] <Scolar_Visari> None of this scripted death scene nonsense, players should PAY for their actions!
L466[17:27:14] <Rolf> any of you guys played recent ff7 re-release with new graphics?
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L468[17:28:26] <Scolar_Visari> No, I am, however, interested in the FF IX re-release and the FF X remake. I actually liked those titles, albeit the latter mostly for Bender having a voice role.
L469[17:29:28] * Scolar_Visari laments the missed possibilities of FF XIII.
L470[17:29:54] <Scolar_Visari> Why spend all that time developing a mini-Dyson Sphere world and not feature more of it. WHY!?
L471[17:30:19] <Rolf> ff dunno nowdays. earlier in era ff was fanastic because of more realistic woman models. meaning no barely scad armored womans
L472[17:30:22] <Rolf> but now...
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L475[17:30:41] <Scolar_Visari> Rolf: Also Magitek armor.
L476[17:31:16] <Scolar_Visari> I'm under the impression that the newest numbered titled didn't even have female party members at all.
L477[17:31:53] <Rolf> jeez
L478[17:32:03] <Scolar_Visari> Yes, that may explain why, when looking at promotional photos for the game, I thought, "Gee, this looks less like an upcoming game and more like the album cover for a one-off boy band."
L479[17:32:36] <Scolar_Visari> Final Fantasy XV would even make for a sweet album name.
L480[17:33:50] <Scolar_Visari> See what I mean? http://onlysp.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/FFXV.jpg
L481[17:34:35] <Rolf> yep
L482[17:34:39] <Rolf> and no nonhumans
L483[17:34:54] <Rolf> ff7 had few of em
L484[17:35:11] <Scolar_Visari> Wait . . . I know I've seen this somewhere else before . . . https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSlldkdUAAEmXIV.jpg
L485[17:35:14] <Rolf> all of em white, perfectly ripped
L486[17:35:55] <Scolar_Visari> It's like if 98 Degrees time traveled from their peak and made a game about themselves.
L487[17:36:04] <Rolf> apparently japanese version of nuke is much shorter and not percentage based
L488[17:36:41] <Scolar_Visari> What they need is a Final Fantasy game that's not like all the other ones. Like, how about a non-humanoid main character for a change? Like . . . Er, a Blorg maybe?
L489[17:36:55] <Scolar_Visari> Instead of saving the world/universe/multiverse, why not a more intimate story?
L490[17:38:26] <Rolf> dunno
L491[17:38:51] <Scolar_Visari> Yes, stopping Kafka from destroying everything was fun, but it's not fun if every game tries to emulate that feeling with varying degrees of failure.
L492[17:39:24] <Scolar_Visari> Why not just settle for saving a nation or, heck, a modest city from the clutches of, uh . . . An evil interplanetary oil tycoon?
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L494[17:41:33] <Scolar_Visari> It's a lot like Ace Combat in that every game has the last or second to last mission shooting off some sort of country annihilating doomsday device and the player has to stop it. That stuff gets olds.
L495[17:42:23] <Rolf> yeah
L496[17:42:24] <Scolar_Visari> Something more like Valkyria Chronicles, where you don't actually save the world but end up saving Fantasy France/Switzerland from Fantasy Germany.
L497[17:42:54] <Eddi|zuHause> somehow nothing that you talked about in the last hour made any sense to me
L498[17:43:07] <Scolar_Visari> Eddi: Would you like a TLDR?
L499[17:43:56] <Eddi|zuHause> i never played any final fantasy game, actually
L500[17:43:59] <Rolf> young guy! too young for ff7
L501[17:44:16] <Rolf> sadly I only played ff7 lol
L502[17:44:29] <Scolar_Visari> Eddi: Have you ever played Pokemon?
L503[17:44:29] <Eddi|zuHause> even though i've known of its existence for ages
L504[17:44:55] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, one of the earliest versions, in a game boy simulator
L505[17:45:00] <Eddi|zuHause> like 20 years ago
L506[17:45:01] <Scolar_Visari> It's a lot like that.
L507[17:45:13] <Scolar_Visari> Particularly with the multi-battle format.
L508[17:45:44] <transitbiker> is it japanese or chinese coins that had the square hole in the centre?
L509[17:45:49] <Scolar_Visari> Chinese cash.
L510[17:45:53] <Eddi|zuHause> chinese
L511[17:45:57] <transitbiker> sweet
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L513[17:45:59] <Scolar_Visari> Copper alloy base too, if I'm not mistaken.
L514[17:46:13] <transitbiker> looks brass-ish
L515[17:46:27] <Scolar_Visari> The hole was useful for putting sticks or strings through.
L516[17:46:48] <transitbiker> mhm, fake ones are sometimes used as decoration on packaging, i believe
L517[17:47:08] <transitbiker> plastic etc
L518[17:47:25] <transitbiker> which piece is this? one cent? half cent?
L519[17:47:28] <Scolar_Visari> Common enough, they reached enormous circulation in the various Chinese states,
L520[17:47:32] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF_wrFuY9_c
L521[17:47:32] <kmath> YouTube - Vivaldi - Spring I
L522[17:47:38] <Scolar_Visari> Even despite the early development of paper money!
L523[17:47:53] <transitbiker> less flammable, im guessing
L524[17:48:13] <Scolar_Visari> Very inconvenient to move in large demoniations, however.
L525[17:49:01] <Scolar_Visari> Unlike most Western coinage, Chinese cash was also made from molds as opposed to minting with hammers.
L526[17:50:07] <maltesh> Blar.
L527[17:50:19] <Scolar_Visari> maltesh: Bluaaargh!
L528[17:50:44] <maltesh> The clips must flow.
L529[17:51:27] <Scolar_Visari> Do they enable interstellar travel?
L530[17:51:36] <maltesh> Eventually.
L531[17:51:44] <Scolar_Visari> Then THE CLIPS MUST FLOW.
L532[17:52:17] * Scolar_Visari hopes the new Stellaris FTL fixes include more spice addicted spacing guild shenanigans.
L533[17:53:15] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm . . . I may be on to something here. The Psionic Jump Drive in all its pre-Cherryh glory , albeit with the requirement of Zro Dust.
L534[17:54:22] <transitbiker> the script on the one side is very rounded
L535[17:54:34] <Scolar_Visari> This could be rather interesting if a sufficiently advanced player manages to cut off a Psionic jump drive using empire from its Zro supply!
L536[17:55:10] <Scolar_Visari> transitbiker: It could be normal wear or symptomatic of the mold's quality and/or age.
L537[17:55:40] <transitbiker> even the longer lines have curves
L538[17:55:53] <transitbiker> almost looks korean
L539[17:56:31] <Scolar_Visari> Written Chinese has undergone many changes over the centuries.
L540[17:56:44] * Scolar_Visari points to http://www.ancientscripts.com/images/chinese_stages.gif
L541[17:57:05] <transitbiker> i am guessing that it was minted in early communist china, or some time way earlier
L542[17:57:42] <transitbiker> the finish suggests heavy use, but a more primitive coin making process
L543[17:58:09] <Scolar_Visari> Older coins aren't too uncommon. Like I said, they've been in huge circulation for centuries courtesy of using more common metals than pre-modern Western coinage.
L544[17:58:28] <transitbiker> mhm
L545[17:58:44] <transitbiker> let me grab a photo
L546[17:58:45] <Scolar_Visari> The advantage of gold and silver being their ease of coining.
L547[17:59:24] <transitbiker> yeah, true
L548[17:59:30] <Scolar_Visari> Dragons also like sleeping on beds of gold and silver for the same reason. So soft and easy to melt.
L549[18:00:06] <transitbiker> we also got some coins that are super light, guessing tin or aluminum
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L551[18:01:00] <transitbiker> two are from Philippines
L552[18:01:16] <Scolar_Visari> Those would almost certainly be modern, as aluminum was rather precious and expensive prior to the 19th Century.
L553[18:02:26] * Scolar_Visari would like to thank the Bayer process for making aluminum foil economically feasible, savine many a casserole.
L554[18:03:56] <transitbiker> looks like they were in circulation 1983-2000, 99.2% alu, 0.8% manganese
L555[18:04:44] <Scolar_Visari> That aluminum should've been used for baking!
L556[18:05:04] <transitbiker> its a shame more aluminum isnt reclaimed & recycled, smelting is extremely energy intensive for the resultant product
L557[18:05:51] <Scolar_Visari> The U.S. recycles nearly 70% of its aluminum.
L558[18:05:55] <transitbiker> alcoa's primary smelter uses as much energy as a small town
L559[18:06:18] <transitbiker> yeah, however there is still lots in landfills and salvage yards
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L561[18:06:51] <Scolar_Visari> Japan recycles about 98% of ALL its metal, and I imagine aluminum's a higher priority.
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L563[18:06:56] <transitbiker> aircraft especially
L564[18:07:28] * Scolar_Visari would prefer aircraft use paper mache materials.
L565[18:07:34] <transitbiker> unfortunately, it varies widely state to state and municipality to municipality
L566[18:07:58] <Scolar_Visari> That goes without saying. Some communities in the U.S. don't have recycling pickup.
L567[18:08:34] <transitbiker> this township has single stream recycling, where all recyclable materials are put in one bin, and everything else in another bin
L568[18:08:50] <transitbiker> they take steel, which surprisingly few towns do
L569[18:09:02] <Scolar_Visari> ;tell Flurburtur New project: We need to get together and determine the maximum practical size for an aircraft made of nothing more than papermache and wood.
L570[18:09:02] <kmath> Scolar_Visari: I'll let flurburtur know when I see them
L571[18:09:15] <transitbiker> hahaha
L572[18:09:23] <Scolar_Visari> THIS IS SERIOUS
L573[18:09:33] <transitbiker> use some kind of bio-based epoxy for the paper
L574[18:09:34] <Scolar_Visari> This could revolutionize commercial airliners.
L575[18:09:50] <transitbiker> but what if it rains?
L576[18:09:53] <Scolar_Visari> Joking aside, paper was used in the construction of disposable drop tanks for aircraft in World War II.
L577[18:10:14] <transitbiker> paper fuel depot tanks!
L578[18:10:19] <Scolar_Visari> I think they used a similar material employed in the doping of fabric coverings.
L579[18:10:39] <Scolar_Visari> Well the idea was that paper tanks can't be recycled like metal tanks, which was great since they had to commonly ditch them over German soil.
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L581[18:10:49] <Scolar_Visari> And it probably saved on materials.
L582[18:11:14] <transitbiker> paper is amazing
L583[18:11:24] * Scolar_Visari ponders the use of master origami folders for the construction of variable wings.
L584[18:11:30] <transitbiker> hahahaha
L585[18:11:38] <Scolar_Visari> Supersonic swingwing paper mache jetcraft!
L586[18:11:55] <Scolar_Visari> Folding up into a crane position for minimum storage volume.
L587[18:12:33] <maltesh> Woo, 50%.
L588[18:12:38] <Fluburtur> there is the X-02 wyvern for that
L589[18:12:50] <Fluburtur> the wings fold inward into thmeselves for fast
L590[18:13:11] * transitbiker pictures crews of repairmen frantically pasting new plies in various spots after each flight
L591[18:14:02] <Scolar_Visari> Fluburtur: Yeah, but it doesn't get the Falken's laser.
L592[18:14:13] <Fluburtur> it does have the same engines however
L593[18:14:22] <Scolar_Visari> maltesh: 50% of what? Is your download half full or half empty?
L594[18:14:36] <maltesh> Universal Paperclips.
L595[18:14:40] <transitbiker> engines made from pressed flower petals o.o
L596[18:15:18] <Scolar_Visari> Fluburtur: I think it lacks to Falken's sweet full vision cockpit, too.
L597[18:15:26] <transitbiker> jet turbine engines are basically just sophisticated windmills
L598[18:15:38] <Fluburtur> yeaht eh COFFIN system is rather cool
L599[18:15:46] <Scolar_Visari> Well, windmills don't light the air on fire at any point unless they're not working.
L600[18:16:07] <transitbiker> well no, but it basically makes its own wind
L601[18:16:12] <Scolar_Visari> They're more like Ram Air Turbines.
L602[18:16:15] <Scolar_Visari> But gigantic.
L603[18:16:31] <Scolar_Visari> Or generator driven propellors operating in reverse.
L604[18:16:46] <transitbiker> what plane is it, that ha those drop-down propellors to power stuff in emergencies?
L605[18:16:53] <transitbiker> is it the a320?
L606[18:16:59] <Fluburtur> most airliners
L607[18:17:18] <Scolar_Visari> Ram air turbines are pretty standard, sometimes mounted in pylon mounted payloads ala EW gear.
L608[18:17:19] <transitbiker> we still rely on wind, steam, and propellers
L609[18:17:24] <oren> I should build the Arkbird in KSP
L610[18:17:30] <Scolar_Visari> oren: Someone's done that!
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L612[18:17:38] <Fluburtur> all the ones I saw were ugly
L613[18:17:48] <Scolar_Visari> https://img00.deviantart.net/ed31/i/2012/223/a/d/arkbird_by_skullz_is1-d5aq064.jpg
L614[18:17:49] <Fluburtur> I made a falken but it was not long enough and rather ugly
L615[18:17:53] <oren> Scolar_Visari: I saw one but it didn't go to space
L616[18:18:09] <Scolar_Visari> Wait, wrong one http://i.imgur.com/nzcAQam.jpg
L617[18:18:26] <oren> Scolar_Visari: too small
L618[18:18:52] <oren> moar liek arkbird jr
L619[18:19:00] <Scolar_Visari> There have been several Arkbirds, and its operation in AC 0 was rather strange given that it started out in orbit and rendezvoused with the linear accelreated SSTO in low orbit.
L620[18:19:28] * Scolar_Visari ponders why Osea needed both.
L621[18:20:15] <oren> Well the ssto was delivering the lazer cannon
L622[18:20:29] <Scolar_Visari> Made for a smashing few levels, though. Nothing was quite as satisfying as ripping open an air-mobile AFV's parachute mid descent and watching it hit the ground with an Wyle E. Coyote-esque cloud of dust.
L623[18:20:31] <oren> presumably the arkbird had the power systems for it
L624[18:20:33] <Fluburtur> I want to see a mod that adds the fenrir's optical camo
L625[18:21:01] <Fluburtur> also, im going to bed
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L627[18:21:12] <Scolar_Visari> oren: Not nearly as cool as the duo of submarine aircraft carriers.
L628[18:22:12] <oren> https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/acecombat/images/d/d6/Arkbird_4.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170614111700
L629[18:22:24] <oren> that's how big it needs to be
L630[18:22:59] <oren> need to use like several mk3 fuel tanks and cargo bays
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L632[18:23:32] <oren> When I get my new computer that will be my first project on ti
L633[18:24:18] * Scolar_Visari will make sure to send the Sand Island Squadron in to take it down.
L634[18:25:06] <oren> iirc it had like 4 different engine types on it
L635[18:26:19] <oren> so like, nukes, vectors, ramjets, and rapiers
L636[18:27:55] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm . . . Maybe Stonehenge could've intercepted Arkbird?
L637[18:28:10] * Scolar_Visari leaves to contemplate a new genre of fiction: Alt-history alt-universe.
L638[18:28:49] <oren> yeah, or they could have had a lazer duel between Arkbird and Excalibur
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L640[18:30:09] <oren> the funny thing is that Excalibur, in addition to being a huge lazer cannon, is also a 1 km tall tower, a fact that is glossed over
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L643[18:44:41] <Blaank> Does using large scale lithium ion battery packs for nation sized power storage make sense?
L644[18:45:09] <Blaank> I feel like just having a nuclear reactor would be cheaper overall.
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L646[18:47:57] <Warrigal_> Yo.
L647[18:48:08] <Warrigal_> I'm watching some videos about piloting.
L648[18:48:16] <Warrigal_> I'm sad that not all of this applies in Kerbal Space Program.
L649[18:50:46] <FltAdmVonSpiz> thats annoying
L650[18:50:52] <FltAdmVonSpiz> clicked the wrong side of the orbit on a timewarp to command
L651[18:50:57] <FltAdmVonSpiz> so my ship timewarped into the ground and killed Jeb
L652[18:50:59] <FltAdmVonSpiz> :(
L653[18:51:04] <FltAdmVonSpiz> and the person he was rescuing
L654[18:53:37] <tawny> oh nooo
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L657[18:59:56] <transitbiker> i also have a british penny from 1929
L658[19:00:33] <transitbiker> supposedly wrth between 2 ans 140 dollars us
L659[19:01:27] <transitbiker> fairly worn from use
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L662[19:15:09] <FltAdmVonSpiz> well until decimalisation it was quite common to find coins with five different monarchs on them or something
L663[19:15:20] <FltAdmVonSpiz> the new idea of withdrawing coinage is a rather different from how things used to be don
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L665[19:17:31] <FltAdmVonSpiz> Victoria, Edward VII, George V, George VI and Elizabeth II
L666[19:24:58] <Warrigal_> Dang, flying a plane is complicated.
L667[19:25:32] <Warrigal_> I mean, you know how it goes.
L668[19:25:43] <Warrigal_> Merely making the plane go the way you want it to go is easy.
L669[19:26:05] <Warrigal_> Push forward to go down, pull backward to go up, left to go left, right to go right. Increase throttle to go faster, decrease throttle to go slower.
L670[19:26:21] <Warrigal_> The complicated part is flying a plane safely and efficiently.
L671[19:26:37] <Warrigal_> In KSP, we usually chuck safety and efficiency out the window. :D
L672[19:28:49] <Eddi|zuHause> why safety if you have f9?
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L675[19:34:03] <taniwha> Eddi|zuHause: because redoing things gets annoying
L676[19:39:52] <Alanonzander> using KSPI how can I generate enough power to charge the warp drive? I can't seem to find the right combination
L677[19:50:57] <Mathuin> Warrigal_: AtmosphericAutopilot has made flying pretty straightforward for me, but I still can't make a plane that can reach 18km halfway around the world. They always run out of gas.
L678[19:57:02] <tawny> have you tried hanging drop tanks from the wings
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L680[20:10:26] <Blaank> drop tanks, low speed, propellors
L681[20:11:07] <Blaank> I'm not sure how KSP handles long thin wings at low speed being less drag and more lift.
L682[20:22:03] <Warrigal_> Now that I think of it, I don't know if I've ever played career mode with F9.
L683[20:28:07] <Warrigal_> Hey, in aviation, does "angle of attack" usually mean the angle of attack of the main wings themselves or of the fuselage (the longitudinal axis)?
L684[20:38:38] *** evil_dan2wik is now known as dan2wik
L685[20:40:20] <Iskierka> depends what you defined as the reference
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L687[20:55:01] <DirtyVenom> Any chance one of the Steam discussion moderators is here at the moment? I need to ask them about something that happened either in 2015, or 2016. I don't exactly remember.
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L699[22:14:18] <NolanSyKinsley> Musk has announced the payload for the inaugural flight of the Falcon 9 heavy.
L700[22:14:44] <NolanSyKinsley> It is going to be his Tesla Roadster, and they are going to attempt to place it in orbit around Mars.
L701[22:14:57] <tawny> haha
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L703[22:57:10] <lordcirth> It's a waste of a car IMHO, but I guess it's funny
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L705[23:13:39] <Mathuin> A flyby with a proper landing would be impressive.
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L710[23:23:13] <NolanSyKinsley> lordcirth, it isn't JUST a car, it is HIS Tesla Roadster, which if I am not mistaken is just a prototype at the moment.
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L712[23:24:43] <lordcirth> NolanSyKinsley, indeed, making it a waste of a particularly historically relevant car. Which will, on the other hand, become much *more* historically important if they succeed and it is recovered decades later
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