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L1[00:00:33] <HotSpicySausage> Althego, you
can only do it with those shortcuts?
L2[00:01:23] <Althego> i dont know, never
had far. but everything is harder to do there, and i have seen some
diagrams it can draw
L3[00:01:35] <HotSpicySausage> the diagrams
are the simple part
L4[00:01:59] <HotSpicySausage> i finally got
the plane working
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L6[00:03:14] <xxm> ARE YOU INTERESTED IN THE
WHITE NATIONALIST MOVEMENT?
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PEOPLE ARE SMARTER THAN NIGGERS?
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FREENODE IRC NETWORK AND MESSAGE
L9[00:03:26] <xxm> VAP0R ON HOW TO JOIN THIS
GROWING MOVEMENT!!
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L12[00:03:41] <xxm> cycloptivity
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L14[00:03:53] <Blaank> ban this joker
L15[00:03:58] <tawny> god, here too? what
is with these spammers
L16[00:04:09] <tawny> I thought they were
only on one or two networks
L17[00:04:48] <HotSpicySausage> it's just
the CIA/FBI trying to honeypot some white nationalists
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L19[00:04:55] <HotSpicySausage> Nothing
new
L20[00:05:52] <iplop> O.o
L21[00:05:55] <iplop> I was pinged?
L22[00:06:26] <iplop> the heck?
L23[00:07:00] <Neal> i joined that channel
and theres nothing there
L24[00:07:41] <Althego> lol white
nationalist
L25[00:07:48] <iplop> if you're going to
join such a channel, at least spam some goatse
L26[00:08:28] <Althego> to be honest non
whites are so small minority here that they practically
dontexist
L27[00:09:55] <HotSpicySausage> The trim
shortcut isn't working for me.
L28[00:13:01] <Althego> it should, it is
just very slow, just as a trim should be
L29[00:13:36] <Althego> i always think of a
trim wheel spinning while it is happening
L30[00:13:46] <Althego> but you can check
your settings
L31[00:16:59] <Althego> you could install
secondary control surfaces and set them to deploy instead
L32[00:17:46] <HotSpicySausage> secondary
control surfaces and deploy?
L35[00:18:32] <Althego> if you right click
the surface you can set it to deploy
L36[00:18:37] <Althego> it will deflect to
maximum
L37[00:18:53] <Althego> can use action
groups too
L38[00:19:12] <Althego> since this stops
any other function you need to put on a second set that is only
used for this
L39[00:19:13] <HotSpicySausage> i don't
even understand the settings in the fins like ctrl defelct
AoA%
L40[00:19:28] <Althego> in other words,
flaps, slats, spoilers, etc
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L67[03:27:43] <taniwha> HotSpicySausage:
AoA% deflection is mainly for canards
L68[03:30:16] <HotSpicySausage> how do i
optimize this?
L69[03:30:51] <taniwha> one task per
control surface set
L70[03:30:56] <Althego> any gradient method
:)
L71[03:31:24] <taniwha> (eg, elevators are
pitch-only, rudders yaw-only, ailerons roll-only
L72[03:32:17] <HotSpicySausage> i found it
really helped when i had 2 sets of ailerons where 1 set was for
roll and 1 set was for pitch
L73[03:32:53] <Althego> on full delta
wing?
L76[03:36:40] <Althego> pitch on wings does
not work well
L77[03:36:44] <Althego> too close to center
of mass
L78[03:37:49] <HotSpicySausage> well when i
turned off pitch on the ailerons, it dipped down
L79[03:39:37] <Althego> should be possible
to do it without that
L80[03:39:43] <Althego> just ads drag
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L82[03:40:44] <HotSpicySausage> ctrl+s in
the editor saves right?
L83[03:40:54] <Althego> never tried
it
L84[03:42:18] <HotSpicySausage> should i
use a thermal control system or thermal radiator to help dissipate
heat on re-entry?
L85[03:42:37] <Althego> nothing, it will
not do muchdutingreentry
L86[03:43:04] <Althego> you can use
radiators as heatshields to an extent
L87[03:43:24] <HotSpicySausage> then what's
the point of being given them early game?
L88[03:43:29] <Althego> not sure
L89[03:43:40] <Althego> but you dont need
heatshields from lko
L90[03:44:14] <Althego> radiators can be
used for increased mining efficiency or less heat from nuclear
engines
L91[03:45:09] <HotSpicySausage> which makes
me wonder why they're early tech
L92[03:45:26] <Althego> random
L93[03:46:04] <TheKosmonaut> If you’re
trying to make sense of the tech tree... don’t bother
L94[03:46:23] <TheKosmonaut> Tech Shrub is
like the wind. Nobody knows where it’s coming from or where it’s
going.
L95[03:47:02] <TheKosmonaut> It always
bothers me that you get NERVA so early and the RTG is way at the
end.
L96[03:47:19] <Althego> early?
L97[03:48:07] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: I
mean, I think the NERVA is way too close to the front of the tree
as it is
L98[03:48:08] <schnobs> HotSpicySausage:
for a short while, heat went rampant in KSP. When the feature was
first introduced, there were lots of (often silly) sources for
heat. Since then, radiators have become mostly (but not entirely)
useless.
L99[03:48:25] <Althego> ok there are like 2
levels above it
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L102[03:48:33] <Althego> but not so easy
to get
L103[03:48:51] <Althego> usually the
things i build are based on quite low tech stuff
L104[03:49:53] <schnobs> As for the tech
tree, in my own particular career game I'm quite frustrated by how
many things became available only very late. There will be no
wheels until you get them all, stuff like that.
L105[03:50:07] <Althego> yes, wheels are
really stupid
L106[03:50:15] <Althego> you have rocketry
before wheels
L107[03:50:30] <Althego> on earth no
civilization did that
L108[03:51:20] <TheKosmonaut> schnobs: the
2m docking node at like... the end of the tree (?) bothered me a
lot
L109[03:51:36] <TheKosmonaut> I can’t
remember the last time I really played stock tree though on my own.
Usually I mod the tree
L110[03:52:06] <schnobs> yeah. Used to be
a showstopper. I wouldn't commit to long-term equipment before I
had the large docking thing.
L111[03:52:23] <Althego> almost never use
it
L112[03:52:54] <schnobs> These days,
neither do I. But there was a time when it seemed vital.
L113[03:53:30] <Althego> only one vital
part: cubic octagonal strut
L114[03:54:00] <Althego> just because it
gets around the stupid part connection rules
L115[03:55:03] *
schnobs enables surface attachment through Editor
Extensions.
L116[03:55:15] <schnobs> Great mod, highly
recommended for that feature alone.
L117[03:55:36] <Althego> but aside from
that the cubic... has its other uses
L118[03:55:53] <Althego> because it is
light, tiny
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L123[04:06:01] <Althego> now finally,
after 3.5 days of lazying around, i have to finish the assembly of
the eve sub mission
L124[04:06:35] <Althego> wait, i havent
thought about the trip back
L125[04:06:40] <Althego> that can be
tiny
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L127[04:11:08] <Althego> it always annoys
me that the way to transport 4 kerbals is the cheapest as
passengers. you can do 3 or 5 with a pilot, but 4 is heavier with 1
pilot
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L136[04:39:56] <Fluburtur> I made a dream
last night that had super cool music in it
L137[04:40:08] <Fluburtur> a bit like a
mix of wintergatan and blue man group
L138[04:40:39] <Althego> hehe
L139[04:40:45] <Althego> dream with its
own ost
L140[04:46:43] <Fluburtur> im legit pissed
that I won't be able to find this music ever again
L141[04:48:29] <Rolf> make that music
yourself
L142[04:48:32] <Rolf> you may take
off
L143[04:48:45] <Fluburtur> eh I tried to
make music before
L144[04:48:49] <Fluburtur> im bat at
it
L145[04:48:59] <Althego> bat at it
:)
L146[04:49:17] <Fluburtur> also there was
like two music boxes, two slappy tube instruments that the blue men
group uses and at least ne clavecin
L147[04:49:20] <Althego> we can imagine
you hitting a guitar with a baseball bat while wearing your gas
mask
L148[04:49:39] <Fluburtur> I don't have a
bat
L149[04:53:04] <schnobs> you have a gas
mask? History indicates that this may be more important for sucess
that what istrument you play, and how.
L151[04:54:23] <kmath> YouTube - Captain
Beefheart - Frownland
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L153[05:16:46] <Mat2ch> Hey
L154[05:16:52] <Fluburtur> yo
L155[05:16:53] <Mat2ch> oh, Fluburtur, I
wanted to show pictures to you ;)
L156[05:17:34] <Fluburtur> nice
L157[05:21:11] <Fluburtur> weather is nice
today, I should go flying
L158[05:21:51] <Fluburtur> gonna range
test my camera/tx combo, I think the best test on the internet is
615 meters so im gonna aim for at least 1km
L160[05:23:25] <Fluburtur> oooo nice
L161[05:23:57] <Mat2ch> First picture is
the engineering model of Rosetta
L162[05:24:00] <Mat2ch> It's huge
L163[05:24:05] <Mat2ch> like 4x4x4m
L164[05:24:07] <Fluburtur> alright I have
a clear line of sight for at least 1.7km over flat fields
L165[05:24:10] <Fluburtur> nice
L166[05:24:11] <Mat2ch> I lived in smaller
spaces
L167[05:25:02] <Mat2ch> and the rest
should be self-explanatory
L168[05:25:13] <Fluburtur> yeah
L169[05:25:15] <Mat2ch> also I know who
the boy is. But I fear only few will get that reference ;)
L170[05:25:35] <Mat2ch> apart from that
ESOC is pretty boring ;)
L171[05:25:56] <Mat2ch> but they have
Ariane 5 models all over the place
L172[05:26:21] <Mat2ch> and the canteen is
very good
L173[05:27:17] <Fluburtur> I would like to
have an ariane 5 in my room
L174[05:28:54] <Mat2ch> When Ariane 6
comes out just ask for one of the models
L175[05:29:02] <Fluburtur> yeah
L176[05:29:03] <Mat2ch> they have plenty
and will replace them by Ariane 6 models ;)
L177[05:29:16] <Mat2ch> But you need a
tall room
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L179[05:29:35] <Fluburtur> like how
much?
L180[05:29:39] <Mat2ch> 4 m
L181[05:29:44] <Fluburtur> oooo
L182[05:29:59] <Mat2ch> Well, the smaller
model in the press room might be just 3 m high
L183[05:30:08] <Mat2ch> but on the outside
they had some bigger ones
L184[05:30:17] <Mat2ch> But no 1:1 model
:(
L185[05:30:33] <Fluburtur> the bourget
airport has one
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L189[05:47:30] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: no I
idea, where it is. :D
L190[05:48:07] <Fluburtur> I think it's
the tiny thing on the left
L191[05:48:27] <Mat2ch> That's a
person!
L192[05:49:29] <Fluburtur> are you
sure?
L193[05:50:01] <Mat2ch> even wears a red
shirt! :D
L194[05:50:14] <Mat2ch> time to take a
bath
L195[05:50:22] <Mat2ch> and listen to
Wintergatan, while doing so :P
L196[05:50:45] <Fluburtur> heh
L197[05:54:39] <Althego> that music in the
video where they assemble the trigger mechanism
L199[05:55:37] <kmath> YouTube - Trigger
Mechanism - Building MMX Ep.#10
L200[05:55:59] <Fluburtur> that's
starmachine2000
L201[05:58:22] <Althego> i thought it was
typewriter
L203[05:58:45] <kmath> YouTube -
Wintergatan - Starmachine2000
L204[06:04:51] <HotSpicySausage>
goodnight
L205[06:10:28] <Althego> either in a weird
timezone, or went to bed in the morning
L206[06:11:15] <Fluburtur> well it looks
like there are a few japanese on here but it's not that late for
them yet
L207[06:11:30] <Althego> 3
L208[06:13:10] <Fluburtur> I should
measure the speed of my mini wing
L209[06:13:18] <Fluburtur> probably like
40/50kph
L210[06:13:34] <Fluburtur> won't win the
mile race anytime soon
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L228[07:55:34] <lordcirth>
HotSpicySausage, that's with FAR, right? Ctrl Deflect AoA basically
means that when angle of attack increases, the pitch control of
that surface chanages
L229[07:56:03] <lordcirth> Ah, I should
probably scroll down before replying :P
L230[07:57:11] <Althego> hehe
L231[07:57:16] <Althego> has been sleeping
for hours
L232[08:02:15] *
lordcirth bought 6 games on Steam last night and they're all
downloaded now!
L233[08:02:28] <lordcirth> Decisions,
decisions
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L237[08:15:55] <Fluburtur> well, I wanted
to go fly but there is too much wind
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L242[08:34:06] <Fluburtur> the eyes are
inside goddamnit
L243[08:34:13] <Fluburtur> im never going
near water again
L244[08:34:24] <Fluburtur> exept mountain
lakes
L245[08:34:35] <Althego> inside a
transparent skull
L246[08:35:08] <Althego> did you know you
can see the eyeballs of an owl through the ear (with the optic
nerve)?
L247[08:35:41] <Fluburtur> what about an
ostritch then
L248[08:54:40] <Blaank> What the heck is
that fish and why does it have a see-through skull?
L249[08:55:58] <sandbox_> blue
planet
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L251[08:57:34] <Fluburtur> Draconiator you
up for some more collab stuff?
L252[08:59:16] <Draconiator> Heeeeeey
Flub, I just happen to be loading KSP now, what do ya have in
mind?
L253[09:01:34] <Fluburtur> some bda stuff
like the collab warfares on youtube
L254[09:01:42] <Fluburtur> set up bases
and do battles and stuff
L255[09:01:47] <Draconiator>
Ahaaaaaa.
L256[09:02:03] <Draconiator> I was
wondering if that would be a great idea.
L257[09:02:16] <Fluburtur> could be
fun
L258[09:02:26] <Fluburtur> but I don't
know how it works without making videos of the turns
L259[09:03:34] <Draconiator> yeah we'd
have to do that/
L260[09:04:23] <Draconiator> I still run
1.2.2, maybe it would be safe to upgrade now though
L261[09:04:37] <Fluburtur> yeah
L262[09:04:46] <Fluburtur> I have a
separate install for all mods stuff
L263[09:06:09] <Fluburtur> I'll give you
the mod list
L264[09:06:19] <Draconiator> Yeah me too,
because of stuff like unexpected updates.
L265[09:07:46] <Draconiator> Is there an
easy way of finding out what mods you have?
L266[09:08:02] <Fluburtur> well
L267[09:08:16] <Fluburtur> kerbinside,
bda, vessel mover
L268[09:08:29] <Fluburtur> hangar extender
and large boat parts if we want to do boats
L269[09:08:53] <Fluburtur> firespitter if
we want to do props and dmp if we do mulitplayer
L270[09:09:40] <Draconiator> Hmmm,
okay.
L271[09:09:58] <Draconiator> I have some
props on my install.
L272[09:10:06] <Draconiator> KAX
mainly.
L273[09:10:37] <Fluburtur> where do you
live? might be possible to try mutliplayer
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L279[09:27:25] <Draconiator> Northern
Maine, USA. Not sure what the Internet is like in France.
L280[09:27:42] <Fluburtur> 2 megas per
second
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L283[09:42:54] <Althego> why does the
editor insist of merging the staging of separate things when
merging two ships
L284[09:42:56] <Althego> so annoying
L285[09:43:05] <Althego> practically you
never want this
L286[09:43:48] <Draconiator> Yeah really.
Every single darn time I import a subassembly, I have to fix the
darn staging.
L287[09:45:30] <Fluburtur> there is also
that mod for mouse aiming of planes like war thunder
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L295[10:12:17] <Truga> so I sent a probe
to the mun, and as soon as it passed the SOI I lost contact with
commnet
L296[10:12:20] <Truga> is that
intended?
L297[10:12:26] <Truga> or are my mods just
spazzing out?
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L305[10:23:54] <Alanonzander> Truga: if
you forgot antenna or went outside your communication range, it is
intended
L306[10:24:03] <UmbralRaptor> Depends on
antennas and comm net?
L307[10:24:07] <Truga> no antennas work
fine
L308[10:24:19] <Truga> I went way farther
than the moon before getting into the SOI and it was working fine
then
L309[10:26:10] <Truga> well this is
odd
L310[10:26:20] <Truga> seems like I can
only connect to KSC
L311[10:34:15] <Truga> oh
L312[10:34:27] <Truga> I need a relay
antenna I guess
L313[10:44:28] <Althego> now i need to put
only 1100 tonnes into orbit with irregular shape
L314[10:50:52] <Alanonzander> Multiple
pieces, with a small tug probe that assembles them ?
L315[10:51:12] <Alanonzander> or a large,
fat faring :(
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L317[10:51:27] <icefire> multiple pieces,
held together with shoelace and prayers
L318[10:51:49] <Althego> doesnt fit into a
fairing
L319[10:52:03] <Althego> that is the least
of the problems
L320[10:52:08] <Althego> fairings are
overrated
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L324[10:53:59] <Althego> but the booster
stage is not going to fit into the hangar
L325[10:54:10] <Alanonzander> hanger
extender
L326[10:54:45] <Alanonzander> or onion
stanging
L327[10:55:47] <Alanonzander> in a sanbox
game, I launched an entire space station that way. not the best way
to do it, but I had to try at least once :P
L328[10:56:24] <icefire> "Drag isn't
real" I tell myself as I plow my entire space station through
the lower atmosphere
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L335[11:18:02] <Althego> actually it works
fine drag wise
L336[11:18:19] <Althego> i cant really
make it taller because the engines are not strong enough
L337[11:21:12] <Althego> oh wait, i could
cluster the vectors
L338[11:21:15] <Althego> that helps a
little
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L348[13:02:15] <HotSpicySausage> good day
everyone
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L351[13:14:54] <HotSpicySausage> Anyone
know if you can center your ship in the editor?
L352[13:16:43] <RandomJeb> uhm
L353[13:17:21] <RandomJeb> the ship starts
out centered along at least one dimension in the SPH and two in the
VAB
L354[13:17:41] <HotSpicySausage> reloading
the ship didn't work
L355[13:18:29] <HotSpicySausage> for
centering it that is
L356[13:20:28] <Althego> just dont move
it
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L358[13:20:43] <Althego> but it doesnt
really matters if it is centered or not
L359[13:21:26] <RandomJeb> you could pluck
off everything from the root part, toss that out and place a new
one and reattach everything
L360[13:21:41] <Althego> not always
simple
L361[13:22:20] <Althego> or attach a
strong of rods that points to the ground and use that to center it
more or less manually
L362[13:22:45] <RandomJeb> I like that
solution
L363[13:25:19] <HotSpicySausage> it's hard
to check the CoM if it's not centered
L364[13:25:26] <Althego> what
L365[13:25:45] <Althego> i never cared
about the craft being centered, yet i could check the com
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L367[13:39:34] <tawny> just use the
buttons in the bottom left
L368[13:39:43] <tawny> unless it's so huge
the CoM indicator's offscreen
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L375[13:54:46] <HotSpicySausage> What is
considered low orbit?
L376[13:55:01] <HotSpicySausage> trying to
see what's low orbit for kerbol
L377[13:56:18] <UmbralRaptor>
HotSpicySausage: depends on the body on question. Let me grab the
wiki link.
L378[13:56:21] <tawny> for kerbol? a low
orbit is however close to it you're willing to get before you
melt
L380[13:57:03] <HotSpicySausage> so it
says i need to be less than 1000 Mm?
L382[13:58:15] <UmbralRaptor> bah,
ninja'd
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L384[13:58:31] <tawny> yeah, below 1000Mm,
seems right
L385[13:58:45] <Airwolf89> hello
everyone
L386[13:59:19] <HotSpicySausage> hi
L387[13:59:19] <Mod9000> Hello,
HotSpicySausage
L388[13:59:21] <UmbralRaptor> Greetings,
starfighter.
L389[14:01:43] <Airwolf89> I have a dumb
question: As usual, I installed an unreasonable amount of mods, one
of them ( I suspekt Kerbal Konstructs) add some launch sites. In my
tracking station view I found a button where I can set different
launch sites, like DomRok, GSC Main, Rooks Glory and Southern Site,
that works, but I can't switch it back to KSC, there's no option
for that, anyone has an idea? =)
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L391[14:03:31] *
UmbralRaptor pokes random mod authors in the UI?
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L394[14:06:23] <HotSpicySausage> what does
what does Mark 1,2,3, etc, mean?
L395[14:06:37] <tawny> fuselage
sizes/shapes
L396[14:06:49] <tawny> mark 1 is the same
as 1.25m / small parts
L397[14:07:00] <HotSpicySausage> oh, i
thought it was like Version 1.0
L398[14:07:03] <tawny> mark 2 has a kind
of wide body diamondish shape
L399[14:07:06] <HotSpicySausage> that's
how i named my rockets
L400[14:07:12] <tawny> oh
L401[14:07:24] <HotSpicySausage> is there
a naming guide? :)
L402[14:07:29] <tawny> I mean in the VAB
parts selection
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L404[14:07:36] <tawny> you can name your
rockets however you want haha
L405[14:07:43] <HotSpicySausage> naming
tips? lol
L406[14:07:47] <tawny> I thought you were
asking about the Mk1 cockpit and stuff
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L408[14:07:58] <HotSpicySausage> What
should I use to name versions of my design?
L409[14:08:09] <tawny> "Mark
1/2/3..." is fine for that
L410[14:08:12] <tawny> whatever works for
you haha
L411[14:08:20] <Althego> git hashes
:)
L412[14:09:10] <HotSpicySausage> lol
L413[14:10:45] <HotSpicySausage> do people
use remotetech usually? stock seems like a gimped version of
remotetech
L414[14:15:15] <Althego> it is not a must
have mod
L415[14:15:28] <Althego> maybe for diehard
realism gans
L416[14:15:39] <Fluburtur> Draconiator you
still here?
L417[14:17:17] <HotSpicySausage> i'm using
it but i'm worried i'm gonna get too frustrated and quit again
lol
L418[14:17:33] <Draconiator> I am, still
wondering wether or not to upgrade to 1.l3.1, is everything
updated?
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L420[14:17:44] <Draconiator> 1.3.1
rather
L421[14:17:50] <Fluburtur> all the mods I
have work
L422[14:18:00] <Fluburtur> im gonna tell
you which version my mods save is
L423[14:18:03] <Draconiator>
Okiedokie.
L424[14:18:05] <Fluburtur> not really
sure
L425[14:19:24] <HotSpicySausage> I need
reaction wheels to be at my CoM, right?
L426[14:19:29] <Draconiator> First I'm
gonna download all the mods, put them into a GameData
folder....then merge them into 1.3.1
L427[14:19:39] <Fluburtur> nah my verdion
is 1.3.0.1
L428[14:19:51] <HotSpicySausage> I use
plenty of mods on 1.3.1, i only needed to do a patch for kerbalism
to add the parts to a different category for VAB
L429[14:20:14] <Fluburtur> but my mods are
made for 1.3.1 so I guess I can just update my copy folder
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L431[14:25:48] <HotSpicySausage> Is it ok
to stack 3-4 small reaction wheels ontop of eachother to add more
torque to my rocket?
L432[14:26:23] <Althego> you can even clip
them into each other
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L434[14:27:38] <Fluburtur> well a well
designed rocket shouldn't need them
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L436[14:32:42] <BPlayer> I use thrust
vectoring for attitude control in rockets. RCS thrusters after
ascent/between burns. It is much better, really.
L437[14:34:18] <HotSpicySausage> the one
thing i hate about remotetech is that my satellite system is too
crappy to keep constant connection with even things in orbit
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L439[14:35:34] <BPlayer> I recommend using
KER and adjusting your orbital period and phase angles with the
readouts it provides. Also may have a look at kOS, it's perfect for
deploying custom satellite networks.
L440[14:35:53] <HotSpicySausage> i got
both
L441[14:36:00] <HotSpicySausage> but i
don't know what my satellite network should be
L442[14:36:20] <BPlayer> Ooohh, that's a
very separate bit of fun
L443[14:36:52] <BPlayer> So you're looking
for something that covers the whole globe, although polar areas
could be neglected (probably).
L444[14:37:27] <BPlayer> This can be
achieved using three Kerbostationary equatorial sats, plus options
to cover your poles
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L446[14:39:07] <HotSpicySausage> any good
kos scripts for that?
L447[14:39:08] <BPlayer> I'd go for two
sats half an orbital period apart in highly eccentric, 90 deg
obits. The eccentricity should be such that they spend the vast
majority of time above the pole they shall cover, and quickly zoom
past the other once in a while. This does not provide coverage 100%
of the time, but it's easy to achieve and works well enough
mostly.
L448[14:40:31] <HotSpicySausage> I already
have sats, but i put them up randomly
L449[14:40:37] <BPlayer> Just launch to
LKO, calculate your transfer orbits to arrive at apoapsis with the
correct angle to the previous sat, upon reaching apoapsis fine tune
your obital period.
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L452[14:41:31] <BPlayer> In that case, get
one into a more or less circular, high altitude orbit, and proceed
with the aforementioned procedure
L453[14:41:39] <BPlayer> Also, try to
match inclinations
L454[14:42:43] <HotSpicySausage> i still
have no idea what I should do, i think I should setup
kerbostationary sat ontop of the KSC
L455[14:42:55] <HotSpicySausage> but i'm
worried about losing power during the dark side
L456[14:42:57] <BPlayer> It doesn't matter
where you set it up
L457[14:43:18] <BPlayer> Does not even
have to be Kerbostationary, just make sure they all have the same
period
L458[14:43:58] <HotSpicySausage> well they
have relatively the same period, it's just that i lose sight of the
KSC
L459[14:44:09] <BPlayer> The higher they
are, the better your coverage, though. Theoretically, at infinite
distance, two sats are enough for full coverage
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L462[14:54:05] <HotSpicySausage> Does
remotetech not let you send it commands to do even when you lose
connection with it?
L463[14:54:22] <BPlayer> AFAIK, no
L464[14:55:21] <HotSpicySausage> What the
heck?
L465[14:55:23] <HotSpicySausage>
Why?
L466[14:55:41] <BPlayer> Not an RT expert,
though
L467[14:58:15] <BPlayer> Anyway, I've got
to go now. See you!
L468[14:59:18] <Draconiator> WOOOOT
FINALLY I can upgrade KSP to 1.3.1. no more seams in the runway
lol
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L470[15:03:56] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: If you would look out the right windows,
you'll notice that one of our spaceplane's two engines is currently
experiencing what the captain calls a, "flameout". This
is quite normal!
L471[15:04:40] <Scolar_Visari> For your
safety, we advise passengers to please refrain from expelling their
stomach contents on the passengers beside them and use the bags
provided!
L472[15:04:51] <UmbralRaptor>
Scolar_Visari: Sorry, the G-forces from our spin-
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L474[15:05:03] <UmbralRaptor> ah
L475[15:05:48] <Scolar_Visari> In the
event of a water OR ground landing, your extermities may be flailed
around in animated but futile anguish!
L476[15:05:54] <Draconiator> Grandma
Kerman: Well I've never seen half-eaten snacks fall out of the sky
before....
L477[15:06:53] <Scolar_Visari> Granpappy
Kerman: Aye, bu' we've seen plenty of ole' Kerbalnauts fall out of
dat' blue yonder. 'Ere comes a few now!
L478[15:07:15] <UmbralRaptor> In the event
that the aircraft hits the water at 200 m/s, your seat cushions
will provide clear markers to aid in the search for the black
box.
L479[15:08:31] <Scolar_Visari> Oh . . . ?
It has come to the captain's attention that the flight data
recorder has recently be configured to operate as a DVR. We
apologize for the inconvenience.
L480[15:09:15] <Scolar_Visari> Thank you
for flying with Econo-Spaceflights, we hope you choose us
again!
L482[15:10:42] <Draconiator> Well my
procedural wings didn't scream at me for being the wrong version,
so I hope they work.
L483[15:11:22] <Scolar_Visari> Iskierka:
Ah, I'll never forget the distinctive dial-up modem noises.
L484[15:13:20] <HotSpicySausage> oh wait
RemoteTech does work with the flight computer in losing connection
and adjusting delay
L485[15:13:21] <HotSpicySausage>
noice
L486[15:14:31] <Scolar_Visari>
"Harvest Simulator VR" . . . Wait a second! This is just
Harvest Moon VR!
L487[15:14:42] <Draconiator> Nope game
crashes, hope it's not an out of memory error
L488[15:15:42] <Scolar_Visari>
Draconiator: You require more Vespin RAM.
L489[15:16:51] <Scolar_Visari> And of
course, none of the Final Fantasy games are on sale with everything
else. It's okay, I got my wheelchair murder simulator
instead!
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L491[15:20:07] <HotSpicySausage> How can I
make it easier to browse around in the map?
L492[15:20:19] <Scolar_Visari> While Final
Fantasy VIII is only $12 American, I do feel that they should pay
customers that much to suffer through such an uninteresting cast of
main characters.
L493[15:20:22] <Draconiator> Nope 1.3
always crashes on me.
L494[15:20:28] <Scolar_Visari>
Draconiator: Even without mods?
L495[15:20:41] <Draconiator> Without mods
it works fine.
L496[15:21:18] <Scolar_Visari> One of your
mods is not like the others.
L497[15:21:46] <Draconiator> it's a
reallty good thing I made a backup earlier.
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L500[15:25:28] <Scolar_Visari> That would
explain how Kerbals can occasionally cheat death.
L501[15:25:47] <Scolar_Visari> Or, more
likely than not, they're using the same tech the Venture Bros.
depended upon.
L502[15:27:43] *
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pantheon instead of Venus, the latter being a far more important
deity to the Romans.
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L517[15:47:36] <HotSpicySausage> anyone
know what experiment d5 is?
L518[15:48:57] <HotSpicySausage> i think
i'm missing a part from a mod, the kemini stuff for 1.3.1
L519[15:50:06] <HotSpicySausage> Wtf? I
don't see kemini modules in basic VAB but only in advanced
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L526[16:32:05] <HotSpicySausage> for some
reason I can't get windowed fullscreen to stay unless if i start
the game with the launcher everytime
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L528[16:37:24] <HotSpicySausage> also
finally figured out the experiment thing with kemini
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L530[17:02:25] <Truga> what does having
<100% signal strength do?
L531[17:03:33] <HotSpicySausage> man this
simulator mod is a life saver
L533[17:03:49] <HotSpicySausage> also no
idea, i use remotetech
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L538[17:24:59] <Fluburtur> squirel
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L546[17:37:14] <HotSpicySausage> how do i
switch from my eva kerbal to the one piloting the ship?
L547[17:37:49] <tawny> ] or [
L548[17:37:55] <HotSpicySausage> somehow
alt+click did it
L549[17:38:25] <HotSpicySausage> i think
it's a KIS thing
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L554[17:48:41] <HotSpicySausage> why does
KSP not give you good modules to carry your engineer + scientist
with you?
L555[17:51:01] <Alanonzander> What do you
mean
L556[17:51:02] <Alanonzander> ?
L557[17:51:45] <tawny> there are passenger
comparments available
L558[17:52:03] <tawny> or you can have a
pilot + engineer + scientist in the apollo style capsule
L559[17:52:13] <HotSpicySausage> passender
compartments available?
L560[17:52:20] <HotSpicySausage> I don't
think i have the tech for that
L561[17:52:31] <HotSpicySausage> i have
only the jetliner passenger thing
L562[17:52:34] <HotSpicySausage> which
looks pretty dumb
L563[17:52:42] <tawny> it may look dumb
but it works
L564[17:52:55] <tawny> or the two person
lander can
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L566[17:55:58] <HotSpicySausage> the Mk1
lander can only fits 1 person
L567[17:56:01] <HotSpicySausage> for some
dumb reason
L568[17:58:44] <tawny> there's a bigger
one though
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L573[18:25:20] <HotSpicySausage> i don't
have the bigger one not enough science
L574[18:25:39] <HotSpicySausage> If I
transmit science, can i get the full amount if i return with it as
well?
L575[18:25:47] <HotSpicySausage> or does
it disappear when i transmit?
L576[18:30:01] <RandomJeb> it disappears
when you transmit
L577[18:31:06] <RandomJeb> some science
will give you the full amount when transmitted though
L578[18:31:09] <RandomJeb> like crew
reports
L579[18:37:41] <HotSpicySausage> in KER,
what does the left and right delta-v mean?
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L582[18:40:43] <TheKosmonaut>
HotSpicySausage: uh, I can’t think of what it’d be. From memory,
KER will display atmospheric Delta V
L583[18:40:52] <TheKosmonaut> As well as
vacuum Delta v
L584[18:41:57] <HotSpicySausage> how much
delta-v do i need to land on the mun and return back to
kerbin?
L585[18:42:04] <HotSpicySausage> i know i
need 5150 to land on it
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L589[18:45:54] <TheKosmonaut> You can just
add the numbers up in reverse
L590[18:46:29] <HotSpicySausage> i don't
know know which numbers though
L591[18:47:05] <HotSpicySausage> so if i'm
on the mun, to land on kerbin, i need: 580+310+860 m/s?
L592[18:47:38] <TheKosmonaut> I believe
so
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L595[18:53:33] <transitbiker> bwoop
L596[18:53:44] <transitbiker> any railfans
in here?
L598[18:55:39] <HotSpicySausage> damn my
mun rocket is 173t, but i have a 140t limit
L600[19:14:28] <HotSpicySausage>
woops
L601[19:15:57] <HotSpicySausage> is there
a mod that colors parts in the VAB based off how heavy they
are?
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L603[19:38:07] <Warrigal_> I'm a little
bit of a railfan.
L604[19:38:10] <Warrigal_> I know what a
SPAD is.
L605[19:44:29] <HotSpicySausage> how do
you toggle breaks for the ly-05?
L606[19:44:33] <HotSpicySausage> for the
landing gear?
L608[19:46:02] <tawny> or rather that
holds brakes
L609[19:46:11] <tawny> use the icon on the
right side of the altimeter to toggle it
L610[19:46:22] <HotSpicySausage> doesn't
work
L611[19:46:49] <Leveller> soo.
L612[19:46:57] <tawny> maybe those wheels
don't have brakes idk
L613[19:47:04] <tawny> that'd be kind of
weird
L614[19:47:41] <KrazyKrl> Well... you
could lithobreak them... except it's not exactly a toggle, since
it's one-way. And you only get 1 break per part.
L615[19:47:50] <tawny> haha
L616[19:50:44] <HotSpicySausage> yeah only
the fixed landing gear has breaks
L617[19:50:48] <HotSpicySausage> not the
steering one
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L619[19:57:26] <Truga> you really don't
want to brake with steerable wheels tbh
L620[19:58:44] <tawny> yeah, it can make
you veer wildly
L621[19:59:00] <Truga> yeah in ksp it does
that
L622[19:59:15] <tawny> I don't think
there's any problem with it on real life planes tho
L623[19:59:33] <Truga> in real life it
prevents you from steering altogether if your wheel locks
L624[19:59:46] <tawny> oh sure yeah
L625[19:59:56] <tawny> I meant I don't
think there's a problem on having both brakes and steering on a
wheel
L626[20:00:05] <tawny> except for it being
kind of unnecessary
L627[20:00:26] <Truga> yeah I don't think
any planes have brakes on the front wheel
L628[20:00:35] <Truga> there's enough grip
on the main carriage
L629[20:02:13] <Alanonzander> 737's have
brakes in the nost wheels, but they are more for balance during
breaking than any real breaking. I asked a pilot who had his flight
cancelled because of them failing
L630[20:02:27] <Truga> I see
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L632[20:02:56] <Alanonzander> at tleast
that is what he told me.
L633[20:02:59] <HotSpicySausage> man this
is ghetto, wheeling around on a rocket with wheels to get KSC biome
science
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L639[20:21:59] <JCB> rocket car... dont'
have the jet engine yet?
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L644[20:42:11] <HotSpicySausage> i do, but
rocket is faster
L645[20:42:25] <HotSpicySausage> Also, how
do I get SEP to work with RT?
L646[20:52:44] <HotSpicySausage> nevermind
had to use some setting EVA open and set
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L650[21:36:45] <Warrigal_> Gdi, beginning
of career mode on Hard difficulty.
L651[21:37:05] <Warrigal_> Cost to launch
a craft to fulfill the easiest mission: about 5,000 kerbucks.
L652[21:37:11] <Warrigal_> Total
compensation for doing so: about 5,000 kerbucks.
L653[21:41:58] <kuzetsa> altitude records
/ distance records are hidden "missions" (achievements?
different name I think - some kind of records society maybe. I
forget) which are auto accepted / autocompleted based on
previous
L654[21:42:00] <mabus> spesos*
L655[21:42:21] <kuzetsa> Warrigal_
basically if you manage to make orbit with first launch you cover
many of those and get extra funds
L656[21:42:45] <Warrigal_> I can't make
orbit, I haven't written that kOS code yet. :D
L657[21:43:06] <kuzetsa> oh are you doing
an unmanned mod or something?
L658[21:43:13] <kuzetsa> I was assuming
stock KSP
L659[21:43:17] <Warrigal_> Well, I *can*
make orbit.
L660[21:43:38] <kuzetsa> moment
L661[21:43:40] <Warrigal_> But I'm
challenging myself to do mostly everything by means of kOS
code.
L662[21:43:50] <Warrigal_> Kerboscript,
excuse me.
L664[21:44:08] <kmath> YouTube - [K-OS]
Orbital Injection, 80km automated launch (kerbal space
program)
L666[21:44:19] <kuzetsa> ^ spoiler, free
script
L667[21:44:47] <kuzetsa> the video itself
is more of a music video really
L668[21:44:50] <kuzetsa> I enjoyed
producing it :)
L669[21:45:37] <kuzetsa> it's not
good
L670[21:45:47] <kuzetsa> at least 2 bugs,
but technically made orbit with that particular vessel
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L676[21:57:57] <kuzetsa> I think that
vessel was cheap too
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L678[21:58:04] <kuzetsa> maybe 5k funds
not sure
L679[21:58:42] <kuzetsa> super tiny 0.625
metre tanks / engine, etc.
L680[21:59:34] <kuzetsa> (and all stock,
other than the K-OS computer thing)
L681[22:00:14] <Warrigal_> Now, the exact
difficulty settings I picked...
L682[22:00:16] <kuzetsa> actually it
wasn't 0.625 heh I don't remember it was over a year ago
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L683[22:00:44] <Warrigal_> I started with
Hard, and then I changed all the toggles to whatever the more
difficult option is, except for the "upgrades for older
parts" one.
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L692[23:03:53] <Iskierka> Do straws have
two holes or one?
L693[23:04:38] <ConductorCat> One.
L694[23:05:04] <ConductorCat> Unless it
has a leak.
L695[23:10:05] <lpg> a straw is a hole, it
doesn't have holes
L696[23:10:35] <Althego> not exactly, the
hole is the lack of something, not the something
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L700[23:19:42] <TheKosmonaut> A straw has
ends.
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L704[23:33:19] <Althego> similar to make a
photocopy of a photocopier
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L706[23:33:56] <Althego> nothing to see
here, move along
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L710[23:55:00] <HotSpicySausage> how do
you switch between ladders?
L711[23:55:05] <HotSpicySausage> without
letting go?
L712[23:55:20] <xShadowx> crawl into
it
L713[23:55:23] <Althego> you dont, the
kerbal just climbs on the next one automatically
L714[23:56:07] <Althego> or if that doesnt
happen, you can use the climb action to get to an intermediate
surface where you can grab the next ladder
L717[23:56:31] <Althego> hehehe no
L718[23:56:38] <Althego> űrotate the
top
L719[23:56:44] <Althego> so the ladder is
a line
L720[23:56:55] <HotSpicySausage> you mean
i have to turn the ladder into it?
L721[23:56:56] <Althego> you can havea bit
of a positioning tolerance
L722[23:56:59] <Althego> but not too
much
L723[23:57:12] <Althego> eitherrotate the
capsule on top
L724[23:57:17] <Althego> or make the
ladder diagonal
L725[23:57:38] <HotSpicySausage> ah
L726[23:57:44] <HotSpicySausage> so it's
like a train?
L727[23:58:00] <Althego> i am not sure
what would happen if you made a Y
L728[23:59:33] <HotSpicySausage> dang i
use eva resources so i don't want to use my jetpack
L729[23:59:40] <HotSpicySausage> kind of
annoying that i can't do ladders properly