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L2[00:03:41] <Glass|phone> ...my game says I have NaN items of food left
L3[00:05:55] <petti> they accidentally took mini black holes for snacks
L4[00:11:06] <Glass|phone> changed name of function in javascript file, continued coding in visual novel scenario file, end result was no errors being thrown but function not appearing to exist
L5[00:11:48] <Glass|phone> the novel engine just quietly terminated some embedded code block at the missing function
L6[00:12:18] <Glass|phone> took me some minutes to find that the function is missing, and considerably more to find out why
L7[00:12:54] <Glass|phone> I had left the js file open in background, unsaved, so the function still had it's old name
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L9[00:14:24] <Glass|phone> I'm using some random pc with no real text editor installed so I just used notepad, which has no indication of unsaved files
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L13[00:26:34] <Althego> solution is to take your own stuff with you on usb
L14[00:26:52] <taniwha> if necessary, your own OS
L15[00:26:57] <Althego> exactly
L16[00:27:05] <Althego> boot from usb
L17[00:27:21] <taniwha> eg, Knoppix was designed for just that
L18[00:27:31] <Althego> lot of live distros
L19[00:27:32] <taniwha> (and I've heard of windows variants)
L20[00:27:48] <Althego> but it was js, so any os is fine
L21[00:28:00] <taniwha> and with modern thumb-drives, you could have a full distro
L22[00:40:40] <Glass|phone> taniwha: I don't expect school pcs to allow booting from external droves?
L23[00:41:15] <taniwha> they're school PCs. do you really expect them to have been set up that way? (ie, school PCs are notoriously insecure)
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L25[00:41:44] <Althego> also you could take a portable editor instead
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L27[00:46:48] <Glass|phone> taniwha: as far as I know all school pc's I've seen have actually had it disabled
L28[00:47:18] <taniwha> did you try getting into the bios to enable it?
L29[00:47:49] <Glass|phone> Althego: well I'm dumb, this thing is connected to the school network so I can just pull an editor from the fileserver
L30[00:47:59] <taniwha> or there's that
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L33[00:59:47] <Althego> since my computer speaker is not functioning properly the last few days i have been using the headset. and that made me wonder, how do the amplifiers work on batteries? cant be the usual analog amplifier because those waste energy. but i thought switching audio amplifiers are rare
L34[01:01:54] <Althego> maybe they are not so rare
L35[01:02:09] <Althego> just looked down upon by the audio purists
L36[01:03:48] <taniwha> everything is looked down upon by the audio purists :P
L37[01:03:53] <Althego> hehehe
L38[01:05:00] <Althego> yes mobile phones apparently use class
L39[01:05:01] <Althego> d
L40[01:05:12] <Althego> so the wireless headset probably too
L41[01:05:57] <Althego> and as expected i wouldnt know, i dont have that kind of hearing
L42[01:06:32] <taniwha> if the engineers did their job, neither do the audio purists
L43[01:06:33] <Althego> strange, how does the class d article on wiki lead to sliding mode control
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L54[02:31:15] <Blaank> https://i.redd.it/fv0natlr0ozz.png
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L63[02:59:13] <Rolf> interesting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodward_effect
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L67[03:23:31] <Blaank> occilations of position coupled with mass fluctuations.
L68[03:25:11] <Blaank> Did the Chinese EM drive ever go anywhere? They put it into orbit. They should be able to detect changes since it's been a few months since it launched.
L69[03:25:30] <tawny-> it's unlikely to reveal anything useful tbh
L70[03:25:39] <Blaank> Well did it produce thrust at all?
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L72[03:27:24] <tawny-> I'm not sure
L73[03:27:47] <tawny-> I don't even see any claims they've made about an orbital test, or even anything confirming it's in space yet
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L75[03:28:58] <tawny-> anyway there's too many forces that could be acting in space, with too little expected force
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L77[03:32:39] <tawny> I'm finding no verifiable or reliable claims that the emdrive has actually been deployed into orbit yet
L78[03:33:02] <tawny> only anonymous tips and speculation and guesses that have been blown out of proportion and run with wildly by enthusiastic publications
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L83[03:40:49] <tawny> the other crucial thing about rf resonant cavity thrusters is that we have no idea how they even work
L84[03:41:23] <tawny> which means even if they do produce thrust somehow, even if we can confirm that putting one on a satellite can move that satellite, we won't be able to reliably build anything to take advantage of it
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L86[03:44:47] <Gasher[work]> "how"? "if"
L87[03:44:57] <tawny> I mean yeah there's that too
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L89[03:45:38] <taniwha> hard to know how something works when it is unknown if it works :)
L90[03:45:49] <tawny> but what I'm trying to say is that an orbital test isn't useful because it can *only* prove the "if" one way or another
L91[03:46:11] <tawny> and if it DOES work then that's not enough and we still need to know the "how" part
L92[03:48:19] <tawny> I'm also skeptical of this woodward effect/mach effect thing
L93[03:51:20] <tawny> mach's principle is not a very solid thing to base a theory off of, and I've never even seen it used to describe anything other than a rotating reference frame - and even then, it's not necessarily true
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L96[04:20:38] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Gateway
L97[04:20:45] <Althego> i didnt know about this
L98[04:25:49] <Gasher[work]> " may also use Proton-M and Angara-A5M heavy launchers to fly payloads or crew".... CREW?!
L99[04:27:20] <Blaank> Are those the ones that blow up a lot?
L100[04:27:49] <Blaank> the now cancelled Asteroid Redirect Mission
L101[04:27:51] <Blaank> rip
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L104[04:30:29] <Gasher[work]> yeah proton does not seem to have a good safety record
L105[04:31:07] <Blaank> What vehicle were they planning on putting on top of it? Escape systems could negate the safety disadvantage of a rocket that blows up a lot.
L106[04:31:22] <Blaank> Still not as safe as using one that doesn't blow up.
L107[04:32:45] <Althego> hehe
L108[04:33:08] <Althego> let's put it this way, would you like to sit on top of a pile of explosives?
L109[04:33:25] <Althego> the rocket is that, just designed to explode downwards
L110[04:33:42] <Althego> those that explode in all directions, i dont want to go near
L111[04:33:49] <Blaank> There is a lot of neat stuff you can do. You can armor the heat shield without much more mass to withstand explosions. You can combine the launch escape system into a landing engine to save mass on parachutes. You can put a service module between the capsule and the propellant to help absorb explosions.
L112[04:34:11] <Althego> you can, but even eon gave up the landing idea
L113[04:34:20] <Althego> it is hard to pass regulatory safety checks
L114[04:34:20] <Blaank> Awww, why?
L115[04:34:31] <Blaank> Oh, that's why.
L116[04:34:36] <Blaank> I thought there was some problem with it.
L117[04:34:43] <Althego> so the parachute stays on the dragon 2 for usage as not just a safety device
L118[04:35:00] <Althego> they could do it, but it is just too much money
L119[04:35:17] <Blaank> Still you should be able to briefly kick them on to soften a landing anyway? And it needs a launch escape system. Those save lives.
L120[04:35:39] <Blaank> Oh, LES is going to be way higher than 1 TRW. Not conductive to landings.
L121[04:35:44] <Gasher[work]> Soyuz briefly kicks before landing
L122[04:35:52] <Althego> the engiens can work on dragon 2 it as launch escape system, which is one of their intended purpose
L123[04:36:08] <Althego> "the soft landing" on soyuz
L124[04:36:21] <Althego> without those you go up to something like 40g
L125[04:36:32] <Blaank> LES has way different requirements than orbital engines or landing engines. But you can combine them for not that much mass launch. vs having 3 seperate systems.
L126[04:36:50] <Althego> with them the seats still crumple to decrease g forces
L127[04:37:24] <Blaank> parapharasing I heard it described as a mild car crash.
L128[04:37:34] <Althego> especially after months in zero g
L129[04:38:01] <Blaank> Human body can withstand some pretty crazy forces in short durations.
L130[04:38:34] <Althego> https://gizmodo.com/watch-a-soyuz-soft-landing-from-gentle-detachment-to-1726819539
L131[04:39:02] <Althego> that gif showes it
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L133[04:41:20] <Blaank> So basically a bunch of SRBs kick hell out the bottom right before it smashes into the ground.
L134[04:42:46] <Gasher[work]> yes
L135[04:42:49] <Blaank> Soyuz is a tough boy.
L136[04:42:56] <Blaank> Gets 3 people up and down.
L137[04:43:11] <Blaank> Surprisingly safe given that it's Soviet tech.
L138[04:44:23] <kuzetsa> [... "drogue parachute flings out to send the capsule bobbing and tumbling like a poorly-controlled yo-yo" ...] wow that's scary
L139[04:45:28] <legion> if it is stupid but it works, it isn't stupid
L140[04:52:47] <bees> comfort of the comrades is a very capitalistic design requirement, true communist would bear for the Motherland
L141[04:53:42] <bees> as long as comrade is delivered in one piece, capsule works, da
L142[04:55:08] <Althego> this is because it lands on land (still dont understand how english speaking people think water landing is not an oxymoron)
L143[04:55:20] <Althego> which is still safer than in the ocean
L144[04:55:32] <Althego> at least you dont drown there
L145[04:56:44] <Althego> ok, you can take a gun with you on the soyuz, primarily because of wolves and stuff, but lately everybody choose not to
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L147[05:03:01] <Gasher[work]> Althego, LOL
L148[05:03:16] <Gasher[work]> there was one accident when it landed on a frozen LAKE
L149[05:03:30] <Althego> yes they aƩmost died
L150[05:04:31] <Althego> it was running on the descent reserve power for a day or so
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L171[05:59:20] <taniwha> Althego: pods don't land on water, they splash down on water
L172[06:00:05] <taniwha> English speakers who say otherwise are... mistaken
L173[06:04:10] <TheKosmonaut> taniwha: land on water, splash on land
L174[06:04:34] <taniwha> I think you mean splat on both
L175[06:12:13] <Althego> on all airplanes the safety paper contains the water landing
L176[06:12:21] <Althego> or you may even be instructed about it
L177[06:12:59] <taniwha> LCD
L178[06:13:25] <Fluburtur> I wonder how far a helicopter can glide from 8km up
L179[06:15:59] <sandbox> and if you land on ice without breaking it?
L180[06:16:18] <taniwha> skating :)
L181[06:22:22] <Althego> probably doesnt glide very well
L182[06:22:54] <Fluburtur> can probably go like 20km
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L185[06:33:05] <Fluburtur> haha dihydrogen monoxide
L186[06:33:13] <Fluburtur> man, peoples still don't know about that
L187[06:38:06] <sandbox> dangerous stuff
L188[06:46:32] <Rolf> very. its found in all cancers so far
L189[06:47:18] <TheKosmonaut> Itā€™s the number 1 cause of death in a lot of undeveloped countries.
L190[06:47:48] <TheKosmonaut> In fact, Dihydrogen Monoxide will kill any human if they breathe in too much of it
L191[06:51:07] <Black_Eagle> yeah don't get me started on improper treatment of dihydrogen monoxide. people get ill in all sorts of ways if that happens
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L193[06:56:51] <Rolf> we got dependant on that so early, if we don't drink that chemical we die in 2 to 4 days
L194[06:57:26] <Rolf> people boil it and purify it for better effect
L195[06:58:48] <Althego> if we can last enough to use robotic bodies or create true ai, that would be a thing of the past
L196[06:59:02] <Rolf> indeed
L197[06:59:56] <Althego> dystopic future, but we could just say, an other form of life. life has been bootsrapping itself for billions of years, humans may be just one step in that process
L198[07:01:18] <Black_Eagle> let's say robotic bodies will become a thing
L199[07:01:28] <Black_Eagle> how many individuals will there be in such a future?
L200[07:01:59] <Rolf> dunno
L201[07:02:01] <Althego> what would count as an individual
L202[07:02:06] <Black_Eagle> and assuming we need to start our life as a biological body: what's the ratio of biological people to robotic people?
L203[07:02:21] <Rolf> if I was brain scanned and I run 10 copies of me
L204[07:02:32] <Rolf> would I count as 1 or 11 indivuals?
L205[07:02:57] <Black_Eagle> you tell me, how would you define that?
L206[07:03:23] <Rolf> good question
L207[07:03:39] <Rolf> since if I stop running one of em, would it count as murder?
L208[07:03:51] <Rolf> or sucide? or nothing at all?
L209[07:04:26] <Black_Eagle> i don't mean to be a dick by shifting the burden but that was my entire point: how can we even imagine a world with immortal bodies that has emerged from a world of inequality
L210[07:04:51] <Althego> maybe we cant, just have to wait and see
L211[07:05:10] <Black_Eagle> i guess you as a collective would have the ownership and legal systems wouldn't care as long as the majority of you is ok with that ...killing action
L212[07:05:28] <Black_Eagle> *ownership to you as a collective
L213[07:05:28] <Althego> lately there have been some ai news, like the general purpose ai that won in go, and came up with new strategies
L214[07:06:36] <Black_Eagle> similarly most legislations don't consider suicide a crime. you've just voted against yourself and the majority of you (=1) decided that it's an action to take. now, obviously we could argue something about depression and the insanity of the decision
L215[07:06:46] <Black_Eagle> but that still applies to all suicides this day, too
L216[07:08:52] <Black_Eagle> "strategy" in general is a very human concept. as long as the problem cannot be brute forced there can be general strategies. BUT why should any problem be assumed to unsolvable by brute forcing
L217[07:15:58] <Rolf> immortal? hah!
L218[07:16:03] <Rolf> not even with robotic bodies
L219[07:23:14] <Black_Eagle> well, from old age anyway. robotic bodies can be repaired
L220[07:23:44] <Rolf> yeah though death can still happen
L221[07:24:06] <Rolf> "temperory death" where memories between backup and "now" is lost by nasty death
L222[07:24:28] <Rolf> suppose I didnt backup for a month, takes a skydiving lesson and crute dont open
L223[07:24:33] <Rolf> same for backup
L224[07:24:54] <Rolf> they cannot recover my memories so I come to life minus one month of memories
L225[07:25:16] <Rolf> it'd be like time traveling forward a month, I'd have to figure what I did and what my plans was, so on
L226[07:25:22] <Iskierka> and then your cloud storage service had just emailed you to say that your service is cancelled until you can resolve a billing issue and never get the note that no version of you exists presently
L227[07:25:49] <Iskierka> permanent death would be trivial. Look how often tech companies **** up today. You want that controlling your existence?
L228[07:25:49] <Althego> i doubt physical injuries would be enough to erase memories, maybe an explosion that burns the storage, or emp
L229[07:26:02] <Althego> hehe, get a viures and millions are dead
L230[07:26:04] <Rolf> or diving to nice rocks
L231[07:27:02] <Rolf> and theres this new "temperory murder"
L232[07:27:23] <Iskierka> also most legislations DO consider suicide a crime, that statement is nonsense. It's a crime with no punishment, however, as the crime part is to allow LEOs to take their normal probable-cause entry justifications to prevent it
L233[07:27:28] <Rolf> where person destroys other person body with memories, and that person gets restored
L234[07:27:46] <Althego> it is the idea behind the altered carbon series
L235[07:27:58] <Althego> this almost impossible to kill people with backups
L236[07:28:07] <Rolf> I think I haven't read altered carbon
L237[07:28:17] <Althego> i read the first novel but it generally didnt impress me
L238[07:29:17] <bees> from same discuission on another channel some time ago
L239[07:29:31] <bees> murder would be redefined as an irreversible loss of sentient information
L240[07:29:49] <bees> so your 2-day copy dead would be considered as loss of 2 days of information if you didnt synch it
L241[07:30:08] <bees> probably would get you a fine
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L243[07:30:50] <bees> +copy price ofc
L244[07:31:55] <bees> so killing someone would not be a big deal, but if you attack some planetary backup sites, you would be exterminated on sight
L245[07:32:06] <bees> strange world it would be
L246[07:32:48] <Rolf> indeed
L247[07:33:20] <Black_Eagle> Iskierka: Legislation Main article: Suicide legislation "In most Western countries, suicide is no longer a crime."
L248[07:33:29] <Black_Eagle> you are plain wrong, sorry
L249[07:41:44] <Fluburtur> how are you supposed to punish suicide anyways
L250[07:41:54] <Fluburtur> "you tried to suicide, the punishment will be death"
L251[07:43:54] <Rolf> lol
L252[07:44:06] <Rolf> "YES! I can finally die!"
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L255[07:49:38] <Fluburtur> I should try to do some multiplayer ksp with someone again
L256[07:49:42] <Fluburtur> last time was pretty fun
L257[07:53:15] <GlassYuri> Fluburtur, there is an urban legend about someone in the US being executed for murder after a suicide attempt
L258[07:53:44] <Fluburtur> you know that wouldn't surprise me
L259[07:54:04] <daey_> Fluburtur: the translated word for 1:1 suicide is "self murder" here. murder already implying a criminal action :P
L260[07:54:19] <Althego> if there are underage people going to jail for cp because they posted nude pictures of themselvs...
L261[07:54:40] <Althego> i can imagine anything about the us
L262[07:54:53] <GlassYuri> daey_, german?
L263[07:54:59] <daey_> GlassYuri: yes
L264[07:55:32] <GlassYuri> daey_, remember that there's actually three words, Selbstmord, Suizid, Freitod
L265[07:56:04] <daey_> GlassYuri: yeah and how often do you hear the other two?
L266[07:56:30] <GlassYuri> Suizid is the most common one IMHO
L267[07:56:50] <daey_> they are more like creations for the sake of being "politically correct".
L268[07:57:06] <daey_> yeah that one maybe. but Freitod?
L269[07:57:26] <RandomJeb> we use "self murder" in norwegian too
L270[07:57:28] <RandomJeb> selvmord
L271[07:57:43] <GlassYuri> well Freitod is glorifying
L272[08:00:05] <daey_> Althego: i remember reading about a case on 4chan. a girl actively posted nudes of her over a longer period
L273[08:00:30] <daey_> not sure how that ended though
L274[08:09:40] <TheKosmonaut> Hey uh
L275[08:09:45] <TheKosmonaut> Not the thing to talk about here
L276[08:10:22] <TheKosmonaut> Iā€™m storming the rebel base on Hoth right now. But donā€™t make me turn this ATAT around.
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L287[09:13:53] <xShadowx> happy leftovers day!
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L289[09:14:30] <ve2dmn> RandomJeb: Suicide from the the latin 'Self-kill'... (Sui+ cida)
L290[09:15:16] <ve2dmn> xShadowx: you want to know what the local media use as an 'unofficial' translation for Black friday?
L291[09:16:08] * xShadowx puts a black cat in front of ve2dmn
L292[09:16:11] <Althego> that is another unpleasant american custom that infected us
L293[09:16:20] <ve2dmn> (Probably the same as Fluburtur's media, but I didn't check)
L294[09:16:31] <Althego> ok, it started only 2 years ago or so, we put up quite a fight
L295[09:16:32] <Fluburtur> what?
L296[09:17:00] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: I'll send you a PM. I want them to try and guess first
L297[09:17:24] <Althego> secret french communication lines :)
L298[09:19:54] <ve2dmn> I mean, it's not hard to find. You just go to Bestbuy.ca and click on 'francais'
L299[09:28:01] <Deddly> Vendredi noir?
L300[09:28:07] <ve2dmn> close
L301[09:29:02] <ve2dmn> That's used to describe the US 'holiday' but it's not used in the sales ads because it would have a negative meaning
L302[09:29:52] <Deddly> That is pretty consistent with how the commercial system in the US attempted to change the meaning of "Black Friday"
L303[09:30:28] <ve2dmn> They call it 'Vendredi fou', 'Crazy friday'
L304[09:31:09] <Deddly> I thought "fou" was more like "idiot" than "crazy"
L305[09:32:05] <Deddly> OK guess what it is in Swedish
L306[09:32:09] <ve2dmn> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fou#French
L307[09:33:28] <ve2dmn> Deddly: in terms of rebates, in terms of 'the start of the holiday season' or in terms or 'The thing the US does that we try to translate but we don't have an equivalent' ?
L308[09:33:47] <Deddly> in terms or 'The thing the US does that we try to translate but we don't have an equivalent'
L309[09:34:21] <ve2dmn> avdrag fredag ?
L310[09:34:34] <ve2dmn> (I don't know, I just glue words together)
L311[09:35:11] <Deddly> Nice suggestion but nope
L312[09:35:21] <Deddly> Swedish for Black Friday is: Black Friday
L313[09:35:27] <ve2dmn> Nice
L314[09:35:35] <Deddly> Imaginitive lot
L315[09:36:20] <ve2dmn> At least it's not 'preto sexta-feira'
L316[09:37:32] <Althego> we just call it black friday. no native name for it yet
L317[09:38:00] <ve2dmn> I also like the fact that I can buy tickets to a Zelda concert 20% off with the keyword 'givingthanks'....
L318[09:38:20] <ve2dmn> because in my context, it makes very little sense
L319[09:39:10] <ve2dmn> note that the concert itself is awesome
L320[09:39:28] <ve2dmn> I went twice
L321[09:40:03] <ve2dmn> And it's the... 5th? 6th? time they come around?
L322[09:40:46] <ve2dmn> thinkgeek has the best name: "It's #000000 friday!"
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L324[09:43:17] <ve2dmn> final comment before I go back to work: I wish KSP had Auroras: http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=140843 (from http://spaceweather.com/ )
L325[09:44:48] <Deddly> i love auroras
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L327[09:47:42] <Fluburtur> im playing ksp with bda and doing AI battle
L328[09:48:05] <Fluburtur> 4v4 planes, but I included the k29 and one almost went into a hover to shoot another plane
L329[09:49:14] <Fluburtur> the k29 is a very dangerous dogfighter
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L333[10:07:53] <schnobs> anyone aware of LARGE inflatable crew modules? Like 10+ persons?
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L366[12:52:15] <ve2dmn> Opinions on Factorio and Rimworld?
L367[13:01:26] <Zarthus> both are excellent games
L368[13:04:22] <ve2dmn> because I've been waiting for them to go on sale, and I feel like I'm gonna wait forever
L369[13:04:42] <Althego> is factorio out of beta yet?
L370[13:04:56] <ve2dmn> Define 'beta'
L371[13:05:35] <Althego> 0.15.37 lol
L372[13:06:00] <kubi> beta:=ksp
L373[13:06:19] <ve2dmn> ;define beta
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L376[13:07:39] <Althego> i felt ksp was really good already at 0.24 when i started to play
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L378[13:09:54] <bees> factorio is somewhere around 1.0.4 ksp in terms of completeness imho
L379[13:10:13] <bees> perfectly playable, but still rough at some places
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L383[13:17:57] <ve2dmn> bees: so, is it worth the full price?
L384[13:18:05] <schnobs> Deddly: yo there, you awake?
L385[13:18:14] <Judge_Dedd> kinda :)
L386[13:18:20] <schnobs> Just wanted to say thanks for the rescaling idea.
L387[13:18:42] <Judge_Dedd> Oh, that's good of you to come back and say that :9
L388[13:18:45] <Judge_Dedd> :)
L389[13:18:46] <schnobs> before-after pics are here. http://ksp.schnobs.de/stuff/conquer/conquer-2.html
L390[13:18:52] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZZ1Mm6lfVM
L391[13:18:52] <kmath> YouTube - 'Oumuamua - The Interstellar Interloper - Update
L392[13:19:27] <Judge_Dedd> Oh yes, that does look good, schnobs
L393[13:19:29] <schnobs> Judge_Dedd: Still working on the text, page is WIP. but yeah, it works and looks better than before.
L394[13:19:54] <Judge_Dedd> Great job!
L395[13:19:59] <Judge_Dedd> Now I have to go, unfortunately
L396[13:20:12] <ve2dmn> "My planet needs me"
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L399[13:27:39] <tswett> Ahoy.
L400[13:28:22] <Althego> hi
L401[13:28:23] <tswett> I've wondered for a little while, does Kerbal Space Program (on 1x physics warp) do a constant amount of game time per physics frame?
L402[13:28:23] <Mod9000> Hello, Althego
L403[13:28:29] <Althego> lol the bot
L404[13:28:34] <Althego> know me, i have been here all along
L405[13:28:46] <tswett> And how much time is that? 1/20 of a second or something?
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L407[13:29:29] <tswett> I would assume that the game does *not* adjust that length based on CPU load or whatever.
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L411[13:35:37] <GuestBanana> i'm not going to talk about that BTS Mic Drop Remix video... I hope...
L412[13:36:09] <schnobs> tswett: by default it's 20 physics calculations per second. IIRC you can adjust the interval somewhere.
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L415[13:37:59] <tswett> Of course, this means that if you want to have something rotating at speeds approaching 20 revolutions per second, you're probably going to have a bad time...
L416[13:38:01] <tswett> Right?
L417[13:38:34] <schnobs> Not sure.
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L419[13:39:31] <tswett> I once tried to find information about how physics works in Unity. I was able to find a lot of information about how to use Unity's physics API, but not much about how it actually worksm
L420[13:40:37] <schnobs> I know that you have trouble making a circular orbit in realism overhaul, accelerating on a near-empty stage at 50m/sĀ². Give or take 50ms at engine shutdown in that case equates some 15km of orbital altitude.
L421[13:41:49] <schnobs> (no throttle, no restart, have to cut the engines at just the right point)
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L423[13:47:39] <tswett> Oh **** yes, kOS has GUI functionality now.
L424[13:52:58] <ve2dmn> tswett: kOS runs at 1 frame per frame in KSP. But kRPC runs around it
L425[13:53:30] <ve2dmn> I prefer kOS, but the performance is limited by the frames in the game
L426[13:54:02] <tswett> I definitely like the API that kOS provides, but the language is a little tricky to deal with.
L427[13:54:30] <ve2dmn> Do you know what kRPC is?
L428[13:55:03] <tswett> Sort of. I know that it allows you to control craft or whatever using a variety of other languages, including Lua and C#, I think.
L429[13:55:49] <tswett> I don't know if kRPC provides a big custom API like kOS does, or if it just exposes the game's own API, or what.
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L431[13:58:45] <ve2dmn> what are you trying to do?
L432[14:00:10] <tswett> I'm not trying to do anything right now. What I'd like to be able to do is exactly what kOS lets me do, except that I can write programs in Lua instead of kOS-ese.
L433[14:00:38] <ve2dmn> kRPC is your only choice I'm afraid
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L435[14:01:17] <tswett> Well, I know of one or two other options...
L436[14:01:28] <tswett> Extend kOS so that it also supports Lua.
L437[14:01:40] <tswett> Or, write a compiler from Lua into kOS. :D
L438[14:01:54] <ve2dmn> you could simply write your own mod in that case
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L440[14:02:22] <ve2dmn> like I (somewhat) failed to do
L441[14:05:47] <Althego> the asteroid thing
L442[14:05:53] <ve2dmn> yeah
L443[14:06:22] <ve2dmn> I never managed to calculate the trajectory to make an asteroid 'hit KSC in X month'
L444[14:06:30] <Althego> heh
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L446[14:06:38] <Althego> that is hard
L447[14:06:47] <Althego> in fact i feel that part is missing from the game
L448[14:07:24] <Althego> you cant calculate a direct trajectory to say duna, let alone laythe that will hit it in a specific way and be capturered and landing on spot
L449[14:07:30] <Althego> becuse the planet rotates
L450[14:07:37] <ve2dmn> Looking at the API, there is a way to give a vector and a timestamp and the game with make the trajectory... but I never managed to make it worked
L451[14:08:03] <Althego> wasnt the trajectory computation updated since then?
L452[14:08:10] <ve2dmn> probably
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L458[14:20:32] <tswett> Now, really, the kOS language is pretty decent. It even beats Java in supporting closures...
L459[14:20:51] <tswett> I just wish you could define custom structures (classes).
L460[14:21:09] <Althego> we were fine without classes for decades
L461[14:23:46] <tswett> Of course. I can do without them too. But it would be convenient to have them.
L462[14:23:53] <schnobs> uphill! through the snow!
L463[14:25:26] <tswett> If I have some sort of custom controller object called "pitch", I'd rather write "set pitch:setpoint to 5" than "controller_set_setpoint(pitch, 5)".
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L466[14:28:38] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
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L472[14:44:20] <Mat2ch> evening
L473[14:44:30] <Mat2ch> where's the person who wanted to build a cheap cubesat?
L474[14:44:35] <Mat2ch> I have some input ;)
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L477[14:55:59] <legion> http://www.space.aau.dk/cubesat/kits.html << cheaper than free is impossible.
L478[14:59:30] <ve2dmn> the only thing I hate about the kOS language is the line terminator
L479[14:59:46] <ve2dmn> using '.' is not a good idea IMHO
L480[15:07:42] <tswett> Lua is weird in that it doesn't use a line terminator AND whitespace is insignificant.
L481[15:08:38] <tswett> So you can just string function calls and assignments and stuff together: "do f(x) g = h y = g(x) f(x) end"
L482[15:10:17] <oren> ve2dmn: why is . a bad idea?
L483[15:10:37] <oren> : is the object member operator
L484[15:11:24] <oren> so . is fine
L485[15:11:29] <ve2dmn> I find that it is not clear enough. I often forget it
L486[15:12:05] <oren> you could use a font with a big .
L487[15:13:06] <ve2dmn> if you compare with other languages, it's (almost) always either newline terminated or semi-colon terminated...
L488[15:13:22] <ve2dmn> ...why go the way of COBOL then?
L489[15:13:59] <oren> because it's an old-style language
L490[15:14:01] <ve2dmn> (or Prolog)
L491[15:14:27] <ve2dmn> It's the main issue I have with it, mostly because COBOL gave me nightmares
L492[15:14:47] <ve2dmn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_programming_languages_(syntax)#Statements
L493[15:15:29] <oren> Erlang: Colon separated, period terminated
L494[15:15:31] <oren> lol
L495[15:15:41] <ve2dmn> I have seen the Mega-old COBOL-project-that-doesn't-die
L496[15:16:00] <tswett> I write my kOS keywords in lowercase because uppercase keywords bring back bad memories.
L497[15:16:13] <ve2dmn> It made me lose all hope in humanity
L498[15:16:35] <tswett> Bad memories of ongoing events. :D
L499[15:16:59] <ve2dmn> tswett: It's memories for me: I don't work there anymore
L500[15:17:05] <tswett> "Oh yeah, I remember having to deal with this kind of crap. That was... Thursday."
L501[15:17:40] <oren> anyway, you could write a preprocessor
L502[15:17:56] <ve2dmn> The system had to simulate an operator putting the code as punch cards in nightly batches... it was that old.
L503[15:18:22] <ve2dmn> still ran as of... Thurdays
L504[15:19:07] <ve2dmn> over 2500 files of COBOL, with the biggest ones being over 1MB of pure ASCII
L505[15:19:37] <ve2dmn> with name that were short (because the punch cards could only have a 3letter-4number name)
L506[15:20:41] <ve2dmn> The whole thing held together with 3000+ scripts in various shell languages... Perl, bash, csh, ksh, zsh, depending on the sysadmin
L507[15:21:16] <oren> lol at least none of those are in-house languages
L508[15:21:47] <ve2dmn> And it ran on a 'cluster' of 10 servers that had to 'simulate' being 1 server, so the NFS mounts were full-mesh in all directions
L509[15:22:26] <ve2dmn> With a few binairy apps were the vendors were no more and the licence was tied to the CPUID
L510[15:22:42] <ve2dmn> it could not be moved to a newer computer
L511[15:22:49] <ve2dmn> fun times
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L515[15:24:34] <oren> anyway, you could make a preprocessor that processes kerboscript
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L517[15:24:51] <oren> https://ksp-kos.github.io/KOS/structures/misc/string.html <- kerboscript has string handling
L518[15:25:55] <ve2dmn> oren: nah... I rather just complain
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L523[15:30:09] <ve2dmn> oren: it's a bad choice, but it's not a terrible blocking decision. The language is still functionnal.
L524[15:30:27] <ve2dmn> BEHOLD! my own crappy code: https://github.com/ve2dmn/kOS-Script/blob/master/Orbit1.ks
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L532[15:43:02] * tswett tries to work out an equation for a gravity turn using the Euler-Lagrange equation.
L533[15:56:43] <ve2dmn> tswett: I haven't heard about that in a long time
L534[16:01:56] <tswett> Uh, someone remind me how to solve vector differential equations.
L535[16:18:24] <tswett> Yeah, I have no idea what I'm doing.
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L545[16:28:19] <tswett> Let's see. I want to think of some independent variable x, and a way of characterizing the turn as a function y(x), such that there's a function L such that the efficiency of the turn can be calculated by integrating L(x, y(x), y'(x)) over some constant interval.
L546[16:28:46] <tswett> Yeah, it's trivial. My 4-year-old nephew could do that.
L547[16:29:37] <sandbox> I doubt mine could
L548[16:30:11] <tswett> Yeah, on second thought, this sounds like a difficult problem.
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L552[16:32:16] <tswett> Hmmm. I think the problem will be easier if I change it a bit.
L553[16:33:03] <tswett> The one I've been trying to answer: given a target height and velocity, what's the least amount of time I can achieve that in?
L554[16:33:48] <tswett> The alternative, easier-sounding one: given a target velocity and time, what's the greatest height I can reach in that time, ending at that velocity?
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L561[16:37:46] <schnobs> tswett: my last launch script did a projection of "where will I end up if I keep going straight prograde?" If the result was underwhelming, recast for prograde +1 degree, and so on.
L562[16:38:25] <schnobs> Results were good, but the steering looked erratic for a bit before it settled down.
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L606[18:12:01] <transitbiker> http://www.nyan.cat/america discuss
L607[18:21:04] <transitbiker> also : http://www.nyan.cat/balloon
L608[18:22:09] <Rolf> poor non-magical kitten
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L614[18:57:18] <ve2dmn> transitbiker: best is http://www.nyan.cat/dub of course
L615[18:57:30] <transitbiker> =.=
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L617[19:03:02] <Guest16106> Anyone awake?
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L620[19:06:29] <UmbralRaptor> No
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L622[19:07:04] <UmbralRaptor> We're still all in ? and ? induced comas.
L623[19:10:09] <Warrigal_> I can't make out that second emoji in this font. It looks like a stack of cash stuck between a bow and its string.
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L625[19:11:23] <tawny> hahaha
L626[19:11:34] <tawny> I thought it looked kinda like a brick with tiny wings or penguin flippers
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L628[19:14:12] <Warrigal_> All right, I should find a flag I like.
L629[19:15:11] <Warrigal_> I've been using the Stripes flag for every single one of my career games because I don't like any of the other ones.
L630[19:20:10] <xShadowx> lots of flag packs
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L633[19:23:57] <UmbralRaptor> It's a packet of paper money flying away (with wings)
L634[19:24:32] <SnoopJeDi> it's capitalism day \o/
L635[19:24:35] <UmbralRaptor> Also , why did the guest leave even though we responded? o_O
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L637[19:25:23] <SnoopJeDi> Must be looking for awake people
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L642[19:41:14] <Warrigal_> Hey, I found a flag I like.
L643[19:42:58] <tawny> oh? which one?
L644[19:43:50] <Warrigal_> https://i.imgur.com/zh15hCM.png
L645[19:44:25] * schnobs can't see a white circle without wondering what ought to be there.
L646[19:46:07] <tawny> that's kinda nice looking
L647[19:50:24] <tawny> https://i.gyazo.com/9ef1b51a832a2a9b2032dfb195829c5f.png schnobs how's this ;p
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L658[20:36:28] <Truga> hello
L659[20:36:31] <Mod9000> Hello, Truga
L660[20:36:39] <Truga> is there a mod that allows building longer rockets? :v
L661[20:36:53] <ve2dmn> longer?
L662[20:36:57] <Truga> vab is too short :(
L663[20:37:05] <Alanonzander> hanger hider of some sort?
L664[20:38:03] <Truga> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/59703-10-hangar-extender-v33/ apparently yes
L665[20:38:05] <Truga> nice
L666[20:38:14] <ve2dmn> Truga: I don't know, but I do know that you can ALT-grab the rocket and put it higher
L667[20:38:19] <ve2dmn> even through the roof
L668[20:38:25] <Truga> yeah that's what I did, but it got stuck on the roof
L669[20:38:35] <ve2dmn> ok
L670[20:38:50] <Truga> there appears to be a max of some sort
L671[20:39:26] <Truga> found hangarextender in ckan
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L673[20:43:36] <Truga> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdK3G6uhWgA also found this
L674[20:43:36] <kmath> YouTube - Dachs plane
L675[20:43:37] <Truga> lol
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L677[20:46:22] <Truga> hm
L678[20:46:30] <Truga> still gets stuck in the ceiling :(
L679[20:46:54] <ve2dmn> re-root?
L680[20:47:12] <Truga> oh beh, there's a button on the toolbar I missed
L681[20:47:13] <Warrigal_> Is Eve the hardest planet to land on and come back from?
L682[20:47:14] <Truga> works now
L683[20:47:20] <Warrigal_> Not counting Jool, which doesn't have a solid surface.
L684[20:47:37] <ve2dmn> Warrigal_: landing, no. Taking off, yes
L685[20:50:34] <Truga> ok I don't think a longer rocket is the solution to this problem
L686[20:50:53] <ve2dmn> moar boosters?
L687[20:51:34] <Truga> yeah I'm probably gonna have to do that
L688[20:51:39] <Truga> it'll make it more expensive tho
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L692[21:15:06] <Warrigal_> So looks like going to Eve and coming back takes about 12,000 delta-v? That's not too bad.
L693[21:15:23] <Rolf> Truga: plane probably? (never did land and leave eve legally)
L694[21:24:12] <ve2dmn> Warrigal_: IF you can aerobrake
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L698[21:26:32] <Iskierka> https://i.imgur.com/CmVhjsm.jpg
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L720[23:37:27] <Cowrider350> Hullo
L721[23:37:47] <tawny> o/
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