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L24[03:45:41] <SargentSweets> sup
y'all
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L32[04:31:05] <TheKosmonaut> SargentSweets:
hi
L33[04:31:12] <TheKosmonaut> Quiet day
today :/
L34[04:31:41] <SargentSweets> yeah it is
TheKosmonaut
L36[04:47:35] <SargentSweets> that is
awesome
L37[04:53:02] <flo> i have this picture
with a fat boeing ~5m over my head just coming in to land at
GCRR
L38[04:53:08] <flo> now top that :3
L39[04:53:59] <SargentSweets> gotta link it
or we can't tell if you are blowing smoke up our engine bells
:)
L40[04:54:10] <flo> let me censor my ugly
head out first
L41[04:54:47] <SargentSweets> lol
L42[04:56:05] <flo> ok, it is more like 10,
15m (i remember it being closer for maybe obvious reasons)
L43[04:56:09] <flo> ...uploading
L45[04:58:07] <flo> and yes i was scared as
hell
L46[04:58:33] <flo> i remember about ~50
other people trying to take the same photo only to be kept by their
lack of balls upon the planes approach
L47[04:58:44] <SargentSweets> very
noice
L48[04:58:53] <flo> which was fun to watch
and also kind of calmed me down enough not to run off like a
chicken too :-D
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L50[05:00:09] <SargentSweets> lol
L51[05:00:41] <SargentSweets> wish i still
had pictures of me and my army buddies slingloading stuff under
ch-47 chinooks
L52[05:01:27] <Rolf> 666kgb evil verson of
kgb
L53[05:02:12] <SargentSweets> I think I
might have under built this ship to get to the Mun and back for a
rescue mission, Might not have enough fuel
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L55[05:02:31] <Rolf> SargentSweets: may get
out and push ship like I did lol
L56[05:02:40] <SargentSweets> hope I don't
need to send a refuel ship out for it, but if I do it will make for
a nice post on Imgur
L57[05:02:42] <Rolf> yes, really
worked
L58[05:02:57] <Rolf> just dont lose the guy
doing the pushing ;)
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L60[05:03:14] <SargentSweets> won't work
fast enough to reach munar orbit though, I think I have enough fuel
for that at least
L61[05:03:21] <SargentSweets> lol right
Rolf
L62[05:03:55] <SargentSweets> at 294/241
ox/fuel
L63[05:04:04] <Rolf> it was funny. orbit
low point was 66k or so
L64[05:04:13] <Rolf> so theorically it
would evenually slow down to deorbit
L65[05:04:25] <SargentSweets> I think I
originally built this ship for a kerbin circut
L66[05:04:32] <Rolf> so it was fesiable to
push in order tpo deorbit much faster.
L67[05:05:09] <SargentSweets> nice, I heard
it works, never had to do it.... *knocks on wood*
L68[05:06:17] <Rolf> it does lol and yeah
it was risky as I suck on controlling kerbal with err suit
rcs?
L69[05:06:19] <SargentSweets> I think I
have enough to at least rescue this guy
L70[05:06:40] <SargentSweets> It takes some
practice and a light touch on the controls
L72[05:08:35] <kmath> YouTube - Making a
damascus EDC knife
L73[05:08:42] <Rolf> you ever seen 3 parts
to mun?
L74[05:08:48] <SargentSweets>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand out of fuel, time to send a ship to refuel
it
L75[05:08:53] <Rolf> its impossible I
think, now
L76[05:09:14] <SargentSweets> oooh
damascus, thats the stuff I want to specialize in when I start
blacksmithing
L77[05:09:23] <SargentSweets> never have
rolf
L78[05:09:40] <Rolf> will link when done
with video.
L79[05:09:47] <Fluburtur> trollsky is very
good
L80[05:10:25] <Rolf> gonna love how hammer
machine bounces
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L83[05:11:13] <kmath> YouTube - Forging
Mehrunes' Razor
L85[05:13:01] <kmath> YouTube - KSP: To the
Mun and Back Using Only 3 Parts
L86[05:17:11] <SargentSweets> wait, only a
3 part rocket? I gotta watch that in a min
L87[05:17:50] <Rolf> it was successful
after tons work. there is earlier video, will link when done
watching
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L91[05:26:21] <kmath> YouTube - KSP: To the
Mun and Back Using Only 3 Parts
L92[05:28:16] <Rolf> oops relinked same
one
L94[05:28:29] <kmath> YouTube - Kerbal
Space Program - Minimal Minmus Mission With A 3 Part Rocket.
L96[05:31:34] <kmath> YouTube - Folkmetal
and Paganmetal medley (Classical Guitar)
L97[05:35:40] <SargentSweets> I wish I
could plan a mission that close leaving Kerbin
L98[05:35:54] <Rolf> jeez
L99[05:35:59] <Rolf> older is is
minmus!
L100[05:36:13] <Rolf> and lander? its
kerbal herself lol
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L103[05:45:05] <kmath> YouTube - To The
Mun And Back THREE Times In A Single Launch - KSP
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L105[05:53:05] <SargentSweets> now to get
this rescue ship to meet up with the 1st rescue ship to fuel it,
then continue with my first rescue mission... lol
L106[05:53:31] <Rolf> damn
L107[05:53:39] <Rolf> that guy is ksp
god
L108[05:53:54] <SargentSweets> the 3 time
guy?
L109[05:53:56] <Rolf> mun 3 times, flags
all right to each other
L110[05:54:06] <Rolf> and at end he lands
right at base
L111[05:54:28] <SargentSweets> dang, i
have a hard time relanding even remotely close to a previous
landing spot
L112[05:54:36] <Rolf> indeed
L113[05:55:02] <SargentSweets> oly time i
even get close is if I use mechjeb
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L115[06:18:03] <Fluburtur> time to cut
some more foam wings
L116[06:18:36] <Fluburtur> gonna try to
put some twist in them see if it helps
L117[06:22:42] <Fluburtur> apparently it's
there to reduce tip stalls
L118[06:22:56] <Fluburtur> and increase
low speed,high AoA lift and handling
L119[06:23:04] <Fluburtur> which is
everything I want
L120[06:24:52] <SargentSweets> nice
L121[06:28:43] <Fluburtur> might reduce
speed however
L122[06:28:59] <Fluburtur> but if it
increases the wintip drag I could fly it without winglets
L123[06:32:38] <Fluburtur> 3° of twist
doesn't sound like much
L124[06:32:44] <Fluburtur> might go for 5
or even 10
L125[06:35:08] <SargentSweets> rc
plane?
L126[06:35:58] <Fluburtur> yeah
L127[06:36:21] <SargentSweets> nice, never
really got into that, out of my price range
L128[06:36:35] <Fluburtur> heh
L129[06:36:46] <Fluburtur> my beginner kit
is like 150€
L130[06:37:02] <Fluburtur> but if you
consider tools and materials and stuff yeah it gets higher
L131[06:37:43] <SargentSweets> yeah, my
hobby will be blacksmithing, and that gets pricey too
L132[06:38:34] <Fluburtur> yeah anvils are
not that cheap
L133[06:39:14] <Ezko_> "will
be"
L134[06:39:30] <SargentSweets> no they are
not, good thing my 1st one I got free, it is a hunk of old train
rail
L135[06:39:57] <SargentSweets> the will
be, is because I don't quite have all the tools I need to
start
L136[06:45:48] <Fluburtur> I wanted to do
some forging myself
L137[06:46:06] <Fluburtur> get half a
barrel and make it into the warm thing to make metal spft
L138[06:47:02] <SargentSweets> i am gonna
make my forge out of an old BBQ
L139[06:48:10] <SargentSweets> looks like
my batteries and my antenna broke off during re-entry, at least the
crew made it back allright
L140[06:48:36] <SargentSweets> I just shut
down my Munar Science Station, had kerbals out there for 10 years
or so
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L142[06:53:22] <Fluburtur> oh yeah 5° of
twist will be plenty
L143[06:53:47] <Fluburtur> will go for
3°
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L145[07:00:00] <SargentSweets> what I
don't get, is these guys stayed around the Mun for 10 years or so,
and only go up to 1 star, how did they not get more exp for
that
L146[07:06:41] <Fluburtur> probably don't
get much xp doing a 10 years nap
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L148[07:09:27] <SargentSweets> they were
supposed to be doing science the whole time
L149[07:12:52] <sandbox> still alive
L150[07:13:14] <SargentSweets> woot
L151[07:18:37] <Rolf> kerbals is tough as
heck
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L153[07:19:01] <Rolf> I once orbited
kerbal for couple years. no ship, just space suit
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L157[07:26:59] <Fluburtur> lel
L160[07:28:31] <Fluburtur> that's pretty
true
L161[07:29:54] <GlassYuri> also note that
that guy has geotagging on while evading the great firewall
L162[07:30:04] <GlassYuri> why would you
do that
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L165[07:37:38] <mabus> stops available at
your local dollar store, just a professional tip for next
time
L166[07:37:39] <SargentSweets> welp, 5:30
am here, think it is time for me to crash out.... night/ morning /
afternoon y'all
L167[07:37:44] <mabus> good adapting
though
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L169[07:41:30] <TheKosmonaut> mabus: Not
for a japanese sink
L170[07:41:33] <TheKosmonaut> The drains
are stupid big
L171[07:41:54] <mabus> oh i didnt know you
were in japan
L172[07:42:22] <Alanonzander> get a
bathtub stopper (looks like a flat curcular rubber pad.
L173[07:42:40] <TheKosmonaut> I tried
Macgyvering one out of a plastic bag and some rubber bands, but it
was leaking very slowly and I didnt trust it to be deep enough for
the overnight defrost
L174[07:43:21] <TheKosmonaut>
Alanonzander: See attached photo above, that's a bathtub drain
there, the sink drains are about large enough for you so have two
hands fit in at the same time
L175[07:43:36] <TheKosmonaut> I could drop
an orange down my kitchen sink and it'd have clearance
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L177[07:53:13] <mabus> what are japanese
people draining down their sink?
L178[07:53:15] <mabus> nevermind, dont
tell me
L180[08:02:03] <Fluburtur> using por is so
much faster than white glue
L181[08:02:10] <Fluburtur> not sure how
well it holds however
L182[08:05:34] <TheKosmonaut> mabus:
dunno.. it's just the way sinks are
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L184[08:36:01] <ve2dmn> TheKosmonaut: The
bread 'sizing' is what puzzled me the most, ironically
L185[08:36:19] <TheKosmonaut> ve2dmn:
Bread sizing?
L186[08:36:25] <ve2dmn> it's perfectly
cubed.
L187[08:36:59] <ve2dmn> I had never seen
bread that was made to be a specific shape before
L188[08:38:22] <ve2dmn> It also means that
the japanese 'pressed sandwich maker' that I bought simply doesn't
work outside of japan
L189[08:39:36] <TheKosmonaut> You mean the
white bread?
L190[08:39:44] <TheKosmonaut> That’s
pretty much a square in any country
L194[08:40:52] <TheKosmonaut> Ah
L195[08:41:02] <TheKosmonaut> I’ve seen
both tbh
L196[08:41:14] <Iskierka> we have some of
the latter here but not so aggressively squared
L197[08:41:29] <Iskierka> just a little
pushed down on the top so that it'll fit nicely in the
package
L200[08:43:57] <Iskierka> stacks very well
on shelves and the packaging is efficient as it can neatly fold
over the end
L201[08:44:29] <ve2dmn> TheKosmonaut:
doing a search once I got back home, I realise that there are TONS
of standards for bread...
L202[08:44:40] <ve2dmn> the only common
theme is 'fitting in the toaster'
L203[08:44:50] <Iskierka> ... there are
standards? I figured they were just all doing their own thing
L204[08:45:14] <TheKosmonaut> ve2dmn:
Those mold things dont work in regular slices either.. you have to
cut the crust in most cases
L205[08:45:46] <TheKosmonaut> I usually
buy baguettes from my local bakery or their own white bread which
is more rectangular
L206[08:48:01] <Iskierka> what is the mold
for, anyway? Cutting the bread? Or putting some splodge of spread
on in that shape?
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L212[08:53:33] <TheKosmonaut> Iskierka:
You usually can cut it into the shape of the mold
L213[08:55:20] <Truga> please don't eat
moldy bread! :v
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L219[09:03:27] <ve2dmn> TheKosmonaut: so I
bought a few of these 'maker-presser-sealer' thingy and they are
basically useless.
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L221[09:04:33] <TheKosmonaut> They’re also
useless in my case as well
L222[09:04:50] <ve2dmn> You don't eat
bread?
L224[09:06:31] <Truga> i think your cat is
broken
L225[09:06:31] <ve2dmn> he looks
stiff
L226[09:06:40] <TheKosmonaut> ve2dmn: I
dont use those pressers
L227[09:06:43] <Truga> hope it's still
under warranty
L228[09:07:09] <ve2dmn> Truga: probably
missing a security patch.
L229[09:07:42] <APlayer> Sensor failure,
more like
L230[09:09:06] <UmbralRaptor> There's a
shutdown switch on their shoulders normally used foe
transportation.
L231[09:10:51] <ve2dmn> I seem to remember
a video of 2 cats that had a disosrder where they would get very
stiff and fall down...
L232[09:15:05] <ve2dmn> APlayer: in the
short run it's cheaper then the new re-born Sony RoboDog.... in the
long run, I'm not so sure
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L239[10:05:16] <kmath> YouTube - fainting
goat kittens - original video
L240[10:06:40] <ve2dmn> basically, it's a
degenerative disease where they get stiff everytime they hear a
sound
L241[10:07:51] <Fluburtur> alright, went
out and gave the papers of my airplane kits to a few peoples
L242[10:08:28] <Fluburtur> the director of
my old middle school because im friend with him and he was
interested and the corner shop of the town with which im also
friend
L243[10:11:55] <Althego> paper in what
meaning?
L244[10:12:18] <Fluburtur> the one that
says "I sell that so buy it"
L245[10:12:19] <ve2dmn> Althego: flyer.
Ad.
L246[10:12:52] <Althego> i thought maybe
raw material
L247[10:13:16] <Althego> makes a lot more
sense this way
L248[10:13:42] <Althego> i was also
considering an article but it did not fit at all
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L250[10:15:27] <ve2dmn> Althego: it helps
that I saw the ad previously, so I just assume Fluburtur was
talking about that
L251[10:15:34] <atoem> hi how can i save
plane as one? i can now only save with out the cockpit?
L252[10:15:52] <atoem> same with the
rakkets
L253[10:16:19] <ve2dmn> atoem: I don't
understand the question. You can't save?
L254[10:16:32] <atoem> ve2dmn i make
plane
L255[10:16:47] <Althego> wait, are you
trying to merge two crafts?
L256[10:16:57] <atoem> ve2dmn then i want
to save it by drag and drop in the drop zone
L257[10:17:11] <atoem> but it do not
save
L258[10:17:15] <Althego> as a
subassembly?
L259[10:17:22] <Althego> not all parts may
be root parts
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L261[10:17:30] <atoem> only if i cut the
cockpit off it will save
L262[10:17:30] <ve2dmn> You want to make a
Subassembly or simply save the whole plane?
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L264[10:17:50] <atoem> i want to save the
whole plane
L265[10:17:52] <Althego> in current ksp
never make a subasembly because you can merge
L266[10:18:05] <ve2dmn> Rename the plane
and use the save button at the top?
L267[10:18:05] <Althego> save it noemally
with the save floppy icon
L269[10:19:24] <ve2dmn> the buttons at the
top
L270[10:19:26] <atoem> no not save the
game, only the plane
L271[10:19:34] <ve2dmn> There is no 'save
the game'
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L273[10:19:39] <Althego> there is, but no
icon
L274[10:19:46] <Althego> save game is g5,
but only when you are flying
L275[10:19:50] <Althego> f5
L276[10:20:01] <Althego> so save craft in
the editor is the save icon
L277[10:20:07] <Althego> the drop thing is
for subassembly
L278[10:20:09] <ve2dmn> The game is pause
when you are desinging a plane or rocket.
L279[10:20:11] <Althego> what i suggest
you avoid
L280[10:20:27] <atoem> ? save the floppy
icon?
L281[10:20:35] <Althego> top right
L282[10:20:38] <atoem> ? save the floppy
icon?
L283[10:20:47] <Althego> around the orange
exit thing
L284[10:21:13] <atoem> yes that save the
game
L285[10:21:21] <Althego> lol no
L286[10:21:23] <ve2dmn> no
L287[10:21:28] <atoem> i want to save the
plane in subassembly
L288[10:21:37] <Althego> that saves the
ship you are editing
L289[10:21:49] <ve2dmn> I think you
mis-understand...
L290[10:21:56] <Althego> that is because
for that you need something that has at lest 2 attachment
points
L291[10:22:04] <Althego> you cant atach
the ockpit to something else
L292[10:22:14] <Althego> the cokcpit has 1
attachment point
L293[10:22:17] <ve2dmn> while you are
designing, the load/save/new button are for design... not the
game
L294[10:22:20] <Althego> and you attach
the rest of the plane to it
L295[10:22:26] <Althego> but imagine it as
a subassembly
L296[10:22:37] <Althego> you will not have
a point where you can attach to something else
L297[10:22:40] <ve2dmn> subassembly is to
do copy-paste
L298[10:22:55] <Althego> or rather all
planes and rockets are trees
L299[10:23:03] <Althego> you can copy and
paste trees on to other trees
L300[10:23:05] <atoem> i can save it with
out cockpit
L301[10:23:08] <Althego> butjust by the
root node
L302[10:23:16] <Althego> this is what i am
saying
L303[10:23:29] <atoem> root?
L304[10:23:32] <Althego> but for that the
root node needs to have 1 free attachment point left
L305[10:23:32] <atoem> how
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L307[10:23:53] <Althego> the first part
you put down
L308[10:23:54] <Althego> will be
root
L309[10:24:04] <atoem> yes i
understand
L310[10:24:04] <Althego> unless you use
the reroot tool (4)
L311[10:24:10] <Althego> now if you put
the ockpit
L312[10:24:12] <atoem> and i can change
it
L313[10:24:18] <Althego> and build the
rest of the plane
L314[10:24:25] <atoem> tool re:root
L315[10:24:32] <Althego> then the cockpit
will not have a free attachment node
L316[10:24:41] <Althego> so if you change
the root node
L317[10:24:47] <Althego> then you will be
able to save
L318[10:25:08] <Althego> but you then the
plane will be attachable at that node
L319[10:25:24] <Althego> typical solution
is to build a tiny cubic octagonal strut on some place of the
body
L320[10:25:31] <Althego> and make it as
root
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L322[10:27:03] <RandomJeb> that's what I
do for things like shuttles that I want to strap on the side of a
big dumb booster
L323[10:27:19] <ve2dmn> atoem: I think we
have a language barrier problem :/
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L325[10:28:06] <atoem> yes that works
althego:) thanx
L326[10:28:37] <RandomJeb> this of course
does nothing for your issue of thinking the save button is to save
the game
L327[10:28:39] <RandomJeb> and not to save
the craft
L328[10:28:44] <atoem> ve2dmn you spreak
no english?:P
L329[10:29:17] <ve2dmn> Sadly
L330[10:29:50] <ve2dmn> (actually, it's
more a question of lack of vocabulary on my part)
L331[10:30:37] <Althego> at least you live
in canade where one of the official languages is english
L332[10:30:58] <ve2dmn> Althego: I still
know a lot of people who are monoligual
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L334[10:31:33] <atoem> more french over
there not?
L335[10:32:02] <ve2dmn> about 20%-30% of
the country, yes
L336[10:32:06] <Althego> even in montreal
i found i could use english
L337[10:32:24] <Althego> but the
countryside may be different
L338[10:32:57] <ve2dmn> Althego: downtown
is not an issue.
L339[10:33:19] <atoem> i am from
holland
L340[10:33:26] <ve2dmn> as soon as you
leave the island, it's "Yes, no & Toaster"
country
L341[10:33:45] <Althego> toaster?
L342[10:33:46] <Althego> why?
L343[10:33:48] <atoem> we speak english
and german too
L344[10:33:52] <Althego> how is that a
basic word?
L345[10:33:58] <ve2dmn> it's a common
joke.
L346[10:34:33] <Althego> or so it was told
to pontius pilatus
L347[10:34:38] <ve2dmn> because the word
'toaster' is more used then the french equivalent
L348[10:36:46] <ve2dmn> atoem: what I was
trying to say is that, in order to save the whole design (and not
just the Subassembly) you need to rename the plane (middle top) and
then click on 'save' on the top right
L349[10:37:12] <ve2dmn> then 'load' will
list all your designs
L350[10:37:32] <Althego> subaseemblies
were used while you still couldnt merge different ships
L351[10:37:38] <Althego> now there is
literally no reason to use them
L352[10:37:39] <ve2dmn> once you start a
new design, the only bit you can paste-in are the subassembly you
put aside
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L355[10:38:05] <Althego> at least i find
it too complicated
L356[10:38:14] <ve2dmn> I prefer
subassemblies
L357[10:38:30] <Althego> i did too when
the merge was messing up ships
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L359[10:41:07] <ve2dmn> Althego: I'm
thinking of learning german this winter semester
L360[10:41:12] <Althego> hehe
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L362[10:42:06] <Althego> german in a lot
of grammar construtcs very similar to english, however it has these
silly articles and all the "adjektiv deklination" and
stuff like that
L363[10:42:20] <ve2dmn> Like in
Latin?
L364[10:42:27] <Althego> basically half of
the grammar is because and for the articles
L365[10:42:44] <ve2dmn> ok, not like
Latin
L366[10:42:45] <Althego> and the rules are
not complicated, just somewhat more than in english
L367[10:42:56] <Althego> just cant learn
thsoe articles with the words
L368[10:42:57] <Althego> i cant
L369[10:43:04] <Althego> and that is the
input for the rules
L370[10:45:03] <ve2dmn> it would be my...
5th? 6th? attempt at learning another language?
L371[10:45:30] <Althego> how many
successes?
L372[10:45:45] <ve2dmn> 1.3
L373[10:45:50] <Althego> hehe
L374[10:46:01] <ve2dmn> Latin was cut
short.
L375[10:46:23] <ve2dmn> I failed at
spanish (for lack of vocabulary, really)
L376[10:46:38] <ve2dmn> And life got in
the way of Brazillian Portuguese
L377[10:46:51] <ve2dmn> I count Japanese
as a minor success
L378[10:47:36] <Althego> i got maybe in
0.2 in german, despite several years. but in reality i understand
it well, just cant speak it
L379[10:48:13] <Althego> maybe 0.05
japanese
L380[10:48:33] <ve2dmn> I got to around
200-300 Kanji in Japanese
L381[10:48:42] <Althego> yes that was my
limit too
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L383[10:49:03] <Althego> russian may be
useful
L384[10:49:11] <ve2dmn> but I got a B in
my class
L385[10:49:30] <Althego> if anything
happens, they will be here again :)
L386[10:49:59] <ve2dmn> this is also a
course in Innu and one in sign-language that looks
interesting
L387[10:50:18] <ve2dmn> The
russians?
L388[10:50:28] <Althego> russian is also
good because they have lot of space stuff
L389[10:50:49] <ve2dmn> I'm sort of
limited to what the university offer as evening courses
L390[10:54:17] <atoem> can i drup feal in
to the air?
L391[10:54:22] <atoem> drop
L392[10:54:32] <atoem> fuel oops:)
L393[10:54:53] <NomalRaptor> stock no,
mods yes
L394[10:54:54] <Althego> no
L395[10:55:02] <Althego> you can t ransfer
it into a tank and detach that tank
L396[10:55:11] <Althego> there is a mod
for that i think
L397[10:55:26] <Althego> the only thing
you can dump is mined ore from an ore container
L398[10:55:36] <atoem> okay thanx
L399[10:56:42] <APlayer> Althego: Ich
hoffe, du sprichst jetzt Deutsch!
L400[10:56:52] <Althego> leider
nicht
L401[10:57:16] <APlayer> 9/10, missing the
dot at the end
L402[10:57:18] <APlayer> :P
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L404[10:57:44] <ve2dmn> As long as it's
not "Omelette du fromage"...
L405[10:58:02] <Althego> in chat, i never
write capitals and dashes. and also period is there as a separator
not end of sentence
L406[10:58:30] <Althego> regardless of the
language
L407[10:58:31] <ve2dmn> ...which is sooo
annoying to hear
L408[10:58:39] <Althego> hehe
L409[10:58:47] <Althego> supposedly it is
wrong
L410[10:58:52] <ve2dmn> very
L411[10:58:52] <Althego> but i dont speak
french
L412[10:59:07] <Althego> still a meme
now
L413[10:59:11] <Althego> or at least it
should be
L414[10:59:17] <ve2dmn> It means
"Omelette of the cheese"
L415[11:00:34] <ve2dmn> memes never
die
L416[11:01:06] <Althego> heroes never
die... for a price
L417[11:01:41] <ve2dmn> The only way to
counter a meme, is to make an even better meme
L418[11:02:15] *
NomalRaptor would describe their language attempts as French &
Japanese in middle/high school were defacto failures. Attempts at
improving Japanese comprehension at later dates succeeded, but felt
sort of pointless.
L419[11:02:42] <ve2dmn> NomalRaptor:
immersion helps. a lot.
L420[11:03:27] <NomalRaptor> ve2dmn:
That's sort of out of my budget these days.
L421[11:03:47] <NomalRaptor> (The French
part included 2 weeks in Montreal tho)
L422[11:04:01] <ve2dmn> Montreal does not
count as french immersion
L423[11:04:45] <ve2dmn> I know a few
monolingual anglophones who survive quite well in Montreal
L424[11:04:55] <Althego> with 2 new
languages spoken at every street corner
L425[11:06:38] <ve2dmn> Althego: I think
the 3rd most spoken langauge is arabic
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L428[11:07:08] <ve2dmn> folloed closely by
spanish and italian
L429[11:08:48] <NomalRaptor> Bleah.
L430[11:08:49] <ve2dmn> locally, we call
people who are either Anglophone or Francophone,
"Allophone"
L431[11:09:06] <Althego> hehe
L432[11:09:25] <Althego> allopatric
speciation
L433[11:09:25] <ve2dmn> from Greek
ἀλλόφωνος allóphōnos "speaking a foreign tongue"
L434[11:09:34] *
NomalRaptor gets the impression that properly learning a foreign
language is beyond most people's budgets.
L435[11:09:43] <Althego> exactly
L436[11:09:45] <Althego> or not
L437[11:09:51] <Althego> you can try to
find a chat partner
L438[11:09:57] <Althego> not so hard
online
L439[11:10:20] <ve2dmn> NomalRaptor: no.
Most people simply can easily learn english
L440[11:10:20] <Althego> but getting up to
native speaker levels is hard
L441[11:10:39] <Althego> english is
abundant (for now, until chinese takes over)
L442[11:12:15] <schnobs> that may be a
while.
L443[11:12:29] <NomalRaptor> Well, bear in
mind India exists.
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L445[11:13:24] <ve2dmn> the average human
is an indian who speak chinese as a first language
L446[11:13:33] <Althego> hehe
L447[11:13:43] <Althego> sounds
reasonable
L448[11:13:56] <Althego> spanish is also
spoken in many countries
L449[11:14:24] <schnobs> The US has been
the supreme power in my part of the world since 1945, but it took a
good 30 years until people took the need to learn english
seriously. Even longer until those classes came out of scool.
L450[11:15:41] <ve2dmn> schnobs: some
people here see english as the 'language of the invader' and refuse
to learn it
L451[11:15:48] <Althego> hehe
L452[11:16:02] <Althego> which it was and
still is, only the owner changed
L453[11:16:21] <schnobs> We're currently
in the "chinese might be a good idea" phase. I'd see a
good chance that any english-speaking adult today should be able to
get by on that language until they die of old age.
L454[11:17:20] <ve2dmn> schnobs: are you
talking about 1980s vietnam?
L455[11:19:14] <schnobs> I know very
little about Vietnam. Did they get above a "soldier wanna
hump-hump" level *after* the troops where withdrawn?
L456[11:19:30] <ve2dmn> no clue.
L457[11:20:10] <ve2dmn> My knwledge comes
from the fact that a generation spoke french, the next one spoke
english and the lastest one tried to learn chinese
L458[11:20:11] *
schnobs notices he probably has just violated some profanity rule.
Sorry.
L459[11:24:34] <Althego> ask an op
L460[11:24:39] <Althego> but it is
probably still ok
L461[11:24:53] <schnobs> I guess I'd have
noticed the ban-hammer by now
L462[11:25:48] *
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L463[11:27:35] <APlayer> Can't say
anything about whether that was okay, though, as the only thing
that comes in question of being a profanity is one I am unfamiliar
with, given English is not my primary language
L464[11:29:26] <bees> <Althego>
english is abundant (for now, until chinese takes over)
L465[11:29:31] <bees> it would never take
over
L466[11:29:46] <bees> or atleast not the
existing variations
L467[11:29:49] <APlayer> schnobs: Okay,
internet confirmed, please avoid this phrase in future
L468[11:29:50] <Althego> certainly it is a
lot less practical
L469[11:33:54] <bees> it is not even
practicality
L470[11:33:57] <bees> it is the time it
takes
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L472[12:09:14] <Iskierka> also, chinese is
nowhere near as popular as a second language as english. and that's
a better predictor for taking over
L473[12:09:40] <Iskierka> it's one thing
if your parents spoke the language, quite another if you learned it
out of necessity and curiosity. English is by far the most spread
as second language
L474[12:10:01] <Iskierka> *necessity or
curiosity, would be more appropriate
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L495[13:29:34] <ConductorCat> :3
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L497[13:33:22] <ve2dmn> I wonder who would
be better to explain to me how to design a rocket control system on
campus: the physics departement or the engineers...
L498[13:33:44] <Althego> hehe
L499[13:33:47] <Althego> the
engineers
L500[13:34:04] <ve2dmn> But do they
understand orbital mechanics?
L501[13:34:11] <Althego> because the
physics guys wouldnt know about practical probems envountered
L502[13:34:21] <Althego> the thing is,
they dont need to
L503[13:34:42] <Althego> it would be just
part of the process
L504[13:35:06] <ve2dmn> I could probably
ask my old automation teacher...
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L506[13:35:33] <ve2dmn> you know... the
course that I failed miserably at...
L507[13:36:05] <Althego> hehe
L508[13:36:47] <SnoopJeDi> "rocket
control system" and "orbital mechanics" don't sound
super related to me
L509[13:37:26] <SnoopJeDi> I'd ask an
engineer for the former for *sure* knowing my colleagues, but
anyone with calculus and freshman physics under their belt can grok
celestial mechanics
L510[13:38:02] <Althego> which should be
part of the engineers' curriculum
L511[13:38:46] <Althego> i wonder, is
there some kind of optimal control theorem for interplanetary
travel
L512[13:38:47] <ve2dmn> SnoopJeDi: I
always feel like there is a bit that I am missing somewhere
L513[13:39:00] <ve2dmn> which is why I
want to sit down and have it explained to me
L514[13:39:01] <Althego> i dont think that
ever goes away
L515[13:39:12] <ve2dmn> I'm just not sure
who to ask...
L516[13:39:19] <SnoopJeDi> ve2dmn, it just
sounds like two entirely uncoupled lines of questioning
L517[13:39:32] <SnoopJeDi>
farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/celestial/Celestial/Celestial.html
is a really great read though
L519[13:39:39] <Althego> the more you
know, the clearer it is there are so many edge cases, details, that
there is always something that is unaccounted
L520[13:40:02] <Althego> as it so happens,
tomorrow is my last workday this year
L521[13:40:11] <ve2dmn> lucky you
L522[13:40:16] <Althego> so i can read
this
L523[13:41:03] <ve2dmn> vacation?
L524[13:41:22] <ConductorCat> The answer
of course is both.
L525[13:42:11] <Althego> no luck in this.
i just accumulated my holidays, as i usually do
L526[13:42:30] <ve2dmn> you have 5 weeks
of paid vacations?
L527[13:42:36] <Althego> 26 days
L528[13:42:38] <Althego> 25
L529[13:43:07] <Althego> which in december
turns out to be 5 weeks
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L531[13:44:10] <ve2dmn> Do you get the
holidays off with that?
L532[13:45:14] <Althego> 25th and 26th and
1st is holiday by default
L533[13:45:20] <Althego> i put in all the
others
L534[13:45:30] <ve2dmn> ok
L535[13:45:46] <ve2dmn> I have the
standard '3 weeks per year'
L536[13:46:16] <ve2dmn> but I get everyday
off between the Dec24 and Jan3
L537[13:46:49] <ve2dmn> all my friends get
the 25, 26 and 1st off
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L565[15:26:18] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
L566[15:32:30] <tawny> o/
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L571[15:52:02] <Fluburtur> new robbaz
video wooo
L572[15:53:50] <sandbox_> wrong game
L573[15:54:06] <Fluburtur> no
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L577[15:58:53] <UmbralRaptor> Yay
L578[15:59:10] <ve2dmn> They are still
driving the crappiest bus in the most boring game ever
L579[15:59:26] <ve2dmn> Although, there
were a few crashes
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L581[16:01:40] <Mat2ch> somebody should
make an autopilot for desert bus ;P
L582[16:04:22] <ve2dmn> Mat2ch: like AGDQ,
it would be the TAS block?
L583[16:05:56] <ve2dmn> They should do a
Speedrun of desertbus at AGDQ...
L584[16:06:11] <UmbralRaptor> Uh
L585[16:06:53] <ve2dmn> I'm sure someone
could find a method to skip a few frames
L586[16:07:11] <Fluburtur> now, to find an
airfoil for rc glider
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L588[16:11:52] <UmbralRaptor> ve2dmn: I
guess save the passengers vs save the frames?
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L592[16:30:08] <Fluburtur> well that's a
landing
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L599[17:19:55] <Neal> looks to be an
airfoil
L600[17:20:29] <Neal> also that doesn't
look like a very good glider airfoil
L601[17:20:49] <Fluburtur> well it's
supposed to be a good thermaler one
L602[17:21:06] <Fluburtur> thunder tiger
windstar is the name of the glider btw
L603[17:21:53] <Neal> looks like it has
too much camber imo
L605[17:23:18] <Fluburtur> supposed to be
a good glider one
L606[17:23:45] <Supernovy> that ain't an
airfoil, that's a tinfoil
L607[17:23:48] <Neal> that looks like a
nice one, well suited for high speed
L608[17:24:19] <Fluburtur> well I want one
that is nice for thermaling but not too slow
L610[17:25:23] <Fluburtur> I know about
that
L611[17:25:32] <Fluburtur> but I don't
know much about reynolds and all that crap
L612[17:31:11] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptor: no
Super Metroid race this year
L613[17:32:18] <ve2dmn> but there is an
Enviro-Bear 2000 speedrun
L614[17:34:14] *
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L615[17:34:55] <UmbralRaptor> ve2dmn: I
should probably look at the game list at some point.
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L623[18:21:47] <Guest35632> Anyone have
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L629[18:29:42] <ve2dmn> I need to find 400
science to unlock the communotron 88-88... is there enough biomes
on Kerbin to do that?
L630[18:32:21] <RDNt> yes
L631[18:32:36] <ve2dmn> I've cleaned out
KSC completely
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L634[18:36:29] <ve2dmn> upon closer
inspection, I don't think I have enough biomes left :/
L635[18:36:58] <ve2dmn> That Eeloo probe
will have to launch without the Communitron 88-88
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L646[19:39:25] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: This call may be telepathically recorded to
better ensure customer loyalty.
L647[19:40:11] <ve2dmn> I sign my
phone-typed messages "sent from my telepathic
powers"
L648[19:40:50] <Scolar_Visari> That's a
lie. We all know you use telekinesis to type those on to your
keyboard remotely.
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L653[19:45:29] <UmbralRaptor> ;8ball
Should I attempt to water the brown dwarf desert?
L654[19:45:29] <kmath> UmbralRaptor: You
may rely on it
L655[19:47:44] <Scolar_Visari> Result:
Brown dwarf volume does not appreciably increase.
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L658[19:59:06] <tawny> fire escape?
L659[19:59:36] <tawny> wait.
bathrooms?
L660[20:00:10] <Scolar_Visari> That's
right. They forgot a restroom!
L661[20:00:26] <Scolar_Visari> Just like
the Federation forgot to put toilets on its starships.
L662[20:01:06] <tawny> haha
L663[20:01:30] <tawny> that's what the
holodeck is for ;p
L664[20:01:37] <tawny> just make a
holo-toilet
L665[20:03:04] <Scolar_Visari> Ah, but the
urine, feces and what have you will just stay there.
L666[20:03:24] <tawny> that's what the
holo-roombas are for
L667[20:04:33] <Scolar_Visari> Even in the
future, Roombas aren't very good.
L668[20:09:18] <SnoopJeDi> Even on *paper*
they're not very good :P
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L683[20:52:57] <ve2dmn> looks like someone
decided to write a modern simant clone
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L700[21:24:25] <SargentSweets> ok, now it
is time to do some crew transfers, I need to move my minmus lander
away from pelagius station (my fuel processing station) and dock it
with my Asteroid station at a crazy low minmus orbit and get the
rest of the pelagius crew off the station to turn the whole thing
autonomous
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L702[21:27:10] <esspapier> is there still
some sort of gps mod?
L703[21:27:14] <esspapier> I really liked
the figaro one
L704[21:27:20] <esspapier> but it doesn't
seem to be available anymore
L705[21:28:04] <esspapier> like, putting
up actual gps satellites, and only if you can "see" at
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L712[21:44:58] <Draconiator>
uhhhh.....
L713[21:45:17] <tawny> uhhh?
L715[21:45:33] <tawny> oh hahaha I was
told about that earlier today
L716[21:46:25] <ConductorCat> :3
L717[21:47:29] <tawny> "1800
feet" okay, at that height you might as well just hike up a
mountain
L718[21:47:33] <tawny> or even a big
hill
L719[21:49:44] <taniwha> 600m is more than
enough to prove that the earth is /not/ flat
L720[21:49:50] <taniwha> (if near the
ocean, at least)
L721[21:49:56] <taniwha> or any large body
of water
L722[21:51:14] <taniwha> 200m, a level, a
couple of screws, and a tripod will do the trick
L723[21:54:42] <UmbralRaptor> It's being
done well inland.
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L732[22:13:06] <taniwha> then all it will
prove is that he is a dunce
L733[22:13:26] <UmbralRaptor> Well,
yeah.
L734[22:13:41] <taniwha> land is not level
enough to prove anything about the earth's shape
L735[22:14:30] <taniwha> well, at any
easily attainable altitude
L736[22:14:48] <tawny> it's not like flat
earthers make a habit of looking at these things
pragmatically
L737[22:15:06] <taniwha> or even actually
/looking/
L738[22:15:09] <UmbralRaptor> Cameras
mounted on Model → high powered rockets, or balloons would be
better, but Reasons mean he's not willing to trust
instruments.
L739[22:15:52] <taniwha> thus my idea of a
level, screws and a tripod
L740[22:16:24] <tawny> for probably less
than his rocket, he could get a balloon and some oxygen tanks and
maybe even a nice coat too and fly up himself
L741[22:17:02] <taniwha> screw screws into
the level to make sights, attach level to tripod. adjust so level
is level, adjust screws to sight the horizon (at low
altitude)
L742[22:17:12] <SnoopJeDi> are you
applying rational actor theory to a flat-earther's behavior?
L743[22:17:29] <UmbralRaptor> tawny: What,
like that lawn chair guy?
L744[22:17:43] <tawny> well, maybe not
QUITE like him, haha
L745[22:17:46] <taniwha> take apparatus to
high altitude, adjust level so it's level, try to sight horizon
without adjusting screws
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L748[22:25:59] <UmbralRaptor> Hrm.
Depending on altitude, difference could be 40 arcminutes. Maybe
less?
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L751[22:43:50] <Draconiator> Guys? so all
current graphics cards take up two slots? I'm in the market for an
upgrade, and I need a GPU that's better than my current card but
still takes 1 slot.
L752[22:44:53] <taniwha> UmbralRaptor: it
was large enough for most levels at 200m
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