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<CovertJaguar> If the smoker does
everything ours does, we can just remove it. It was only added to
make factories look cooler. The alternative is to rename it the
"Industrial Smoker"
<CovertJaguar> If the smoker does
everything ours does, we can just remove it. It was only added to
make factories look cooler. The alternative is to rename it the
"Industrial Smoker"L2[01:23:08] <CovertJaguar> I'm more concerned
about the possibility of steel production as that could greatly
impact balance all across the mod
<CovertJaguar> I'm more concerned
about the possibility of steel production as that could greatly
impact balance all across the modL3[01:27:15] <.> No.
It is for cooking, not for appearance like our smoker is
<.> No.
It is for cooking, not for appearance like our smoker isL4[01:42:52] ⇦
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Patrons!
<vedrit> Hoa boi! An alpha is out for
Patrons!L6[02:33:41] <vedrit> That means PROGRESS!
<vedrit> That means PROGRESS!L7[04:52:33] ⇨
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L17[09:50:13] <Its_Chris_2003> if u ask me,
minecraft is moving way too fast. i feel sorry for mod authors like
Covert Jaguar and the railcraft team
<Its_Chris_2003> if u ask me,
minecraft is moving way too fast. i feel sorry for mod authors like
Covert Jaguar and the railcraft teamL18[10:13:34] ⇦
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L20[10:21:27] <liach>
mc is losing popularity somehow
<liach>
mc is losing popularity somehowL21[10:21:42] <liach>
but still the most popular on youtube
<liach>
but still the most popular on youtubeL22[10:34:08] ⇨
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L23[11:06:54] <Natesky9> it's losing popularity
because of all the other triple A titles on PC which are just
updated more often/more dlc/better replayability
<Natesky9> it's losing popularity
because of all the other triple A titles on PC which are just
updated more often/more dlc/better replayabilityL24[11:08:53] <FeherNeoH> According to my
observations every game with dynamic world is losing
popularity
<FeherNeoH> According to my
observations every game with dynamic world is losing
popularityL25[11:09:18] <FeherNeoH> as the players cannot just
check a tutorial on what cordinates to go to for specific
stuff
<FeherNeoH> as the players cannot just
check a tutorial on what cordinates to go to for specific
stuffL26[11:09:27] <FeherNeoH> as the players cannot just
check a tutorial on what coordinates to go to for specific stuff
[Edited]
<FeherNeoH> as the players cannot just
check a tutorial on what coordinates to go to for specific stuff
[Edited]L27[11:10:04] <liach>
isn't there tutorials for minecrafr
<liach>
isn't there tutorials for minecrafrL28[11:10:29] <FeherNeoH> those won't tell you
the exact coordinates for like diamond ore
<FeherNeoH> those won't tell you
the exact coordinates for like diamond oreL29[11:11:00] <Natesky9> games are about playing a
story, facing a challenge. When the only
"""challenge""" is not having
resources, and the only story is about getting those resources, you
have a very shallow game
<Natesky9> games are about playing a
story, facing a challenge. When the only
"""challenge""" is not having
resources, and the only story is about getting those resources, you
have a very shallow gameL30[11:11:04] <FeherNeoH> more and more
"gamers" are playing purely based on online
tutorials
<FeherNeoH> more and more
"gamers" are playing purely based on online
tutorialsL31[11:11:58] <Natesky9> it's clear that
minecraft doesn't have enough story elements to be as engaging
as say, an interactive story, or puzzle game
<Natesky9> it's clear that
minecraft doesn't have enough story elements to be as engaging
as say, an interactive story, or puzzle gameL32[11:12:07] <Natesky9> that much should be very
obvious
<Natesky9> that much should be very
obviousL33[11:12:33] <FeherNeoH> But not everything needs a
story
<FeherNeoH> But not everything needs a
storyL34[11:12:50] <Natesky9> not what I meant
<Natesky9> not what I meantL35[11:12:59] <FeherNeoH> And if you need one, just
find an adventure server
<FeherNeoH> And if you need one, just
find an adventure serverL36[11:13:44] <Natesky9> in my opinion, if you can
play a game for 4 hours, and then not be able to tell a story about
what you did
<Natesky9> in my opinion, if you can
play a game for 4 hours, and then not be able to tell a story about
what you didL37[11:13:52] <Natesky9> what even was the point of
the game
<Natesky9> what even was the point of
the gameL38[11:14:29] <liach>
minecraft is not rpg
<liach>
minecraft is not rpgL39[11:14:35] <FeherNeoH> ^^
<FeherNeoH> ^^L40[11:14:56] <Natesky9> I'm not talking about
"write a JR Tolkien book" about what you just did, but
you should be able to to have some sort of experience that you can
consider "fun"
<Natesky9> I'm not talking about
"write a JR Tolkien book" about what you just did, but
you should be able to to have some sort of experience that you can
consider "fun"L41[11:15:49] <FeherNeoH> Well, anytime we find a
survival game with a story, we just ignore the story part
<FeherNeoH> Well, anytime we find a
survival game with a story, we just ignore the story partL42[11:17:31] <Natesky9> again, I'm not talking
about the story the game tries to tell
<Natesky9> again, I'm not talking
about the story the game tries to tellL43[11:17:41] <Natesky9> it's about your part
in the game
<Natesky9> it's about your part
in the gameL44[11:18:05] <Natesky9> what makes it a game, and
not just a series of tasks you do in a virtual world
<Natesky9> what makes it a game, and
not just a series of tasks you do in a virtual worldL45[11:18:22] <Natesky9> goals, achivements,
obstacles
<Natesky9> goals, achivements,
obstaclesL46[11:18:46] <liach>
in fact, if you play minecraft, you don't even need to learn
crafting
<liach>
in fact, if you play minecraft, you don't even need to learn
craftingL47[11:19:05] <liach>
just go on hypixel and click on others
<liach>
just go on hypixel and click on othersL48[11:19:41] <Natesky9> Take cookie clicker, for
example. As a concept, it barely even counts as a "game",
yet the way it's presented makes you feel accomplished,
rewards you, and makes you want more
<Natesky9> Take cookie clicker, for
example. As a concept, it barely even counts as a "game",
yet the way it's presented makes you feel accomplished,
rewards you, and makes you want moreL49[11:20:02] <FeherNeoH> for me Minecraft is the
same
<FeherNeoH> for me Minecraft is the
sameL50[11:20:11] <FeherNeoH> no need for any bacground
content
<FeherNeoH> no need for any bacground
contentL51[11:20:22] <FeherNeoH> it's just there, and
I can do whatever I want
<FeherNeoH> it's just there, and
I can do whatever I wantL52[11:23:50] <Hanakocz> I think that the problem is
that mods do have messy conditions to get updated and thus good
ones are sometimes lost in a process...
<Hanakocz> I think that the problem is
that mods do have messy conditions to get updated and thus good
ones are sometimes lost in a process...L53[11:24:22] <Hanakocz> also most mc players are
still practically illiterates that were not able to even install
those mods
<Hanakocz> also most mc players are
still practically illiterates that were not able to even install
those modsL54[11:24:41] <Hanakocz> thus the scope of gameplay
for them is like....brutally limited
<Hanakocz> thus the scope of gameplay
for them is like....brutally limitedL55[11:24:54] <Hanakocz> and thus they leave once
they finish all the minigames on hypixel
<Hanakocz> and thus they leave once
they finish all the minigames on hypixelL56[12:21:07] <liach>
in fact, mods can be finished rather quickly, too
<liach>
in fact, mods can be finished rather quickly, tooL57[12:32:57] ⇦
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L74[15:16:30] <CovertJaguar> I never have trouble
finding things to do in sandbox games. Its the other types of games
that feel pointless to me. If I don't have something to point
at at the end of the day and say, "I built that!", then
what was the point? I could have just watched a movie
instead.
<CovertJaguar> I never have trouble
finding things to do in sandbox games. Its the other types of games
that feel pointless to me. If I don't have something to point
at at the end of the day and say, "I built that!", then
what was the point? I could have just watched a movie
instead.L75[15:19:02] <CovertJaguar> but yes, updates are
brutal. There a lot of really cool things I'd like to add to
railcraft, but every six months I have to rewrite half the mod from
scratch. -.-
<CovertJaguar> but yes, updates are
brutal. There a lot of really cool things I'd like to add to
railcraft, but every six months I have to rewrite half the mod from
scratch. -.-L76[15:29:04] <liach>
@CovertJaguar Is openttd a sandbox game in this mean
<liach>
@CovertJaguar Is openttd a sandbox game in this meanL77[15:30:11] <CovertJaguar> sort of, the tycoon
games kind of apply. though its harder to get attached to your
creations
<CovertJaguar> sort of, the tycoon
games kind of apply. though its harder to get attached to your
creationsL78[15:30:27] <CovertJaguar> Factorio definitely
counts though
<CovertJaguar> Factorio definitely
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