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<Natesky9> I didn't know vanilla
furnace minecarts could pull carts
<Natesky9> I didn't know vanilla
furnace minecarts could pull cartsL2[00:30:14] <Generalcamo> But it's broken and
slated for removal
<Generalcamo> But it's broken and
slated for removalL3[00:30:24] <Generalcamo> They just haven't
gotten around to it yet
<Generalcamo> They just haven't
gotten around to it yetL4[00:32:03] <Generalcamo> (It breaks as soon as it
gets to a corner)
<Generalcamo> (It breaks as soon as it
gets to a corner)L5[00:32:28] <liach>
i don't think it does any more in rc
<liach>
i don't think it does any more in rcL6[00:32:32] <Natesky9> Yeah, but I imagine
that's a similar issue that railcraft had
<Natesky9> Yeah, but I imagine
that's a similar issue that railcraft hadL7[00:32:42] <Natesky9> No, this is a vanilla
feature
<Natesky9> No, this is a vanilla
featureL8[00:32:49] <Natesky9> unless RC disables it
<Natesky9> unless RC disables itL9[00:32:52] <liach>
rc changes vanilla minecart's hitbox, so it breaks.
<liach>
rc changes vanilla minecart's hitbox, so it breaks.L10[00:33:09] <liach>
@Natesky9 what issue? report to github
<liach>
@Natesky9 what issue? report to githubL11[00:33:22] <Generalcamo> Honestly I want to
remove it
<Generalcamo> Honestly I want to
remove itL13[00:33:33] <Generalcamo> No other reason
necessary to remove it
<Generalcamo> No other reason
necessary to remove itL14[00:34:29] <Natesky9> I really had hoped that
minecarts were a viable solution
<Natesky9> I really had hoped that
minecarts were a viable solutionL15[00:35:14] <Natesky9> I mean, you can tweak
things with mods, but the base game really doesn't have any
demand for it
<Natesky9> I mean, you can tweak
things with mods, but the base game really doesn't have any
demand for itL16[00:39:19] <liach>
opened gh issue
<liach>
opened gh issueL17[00:39:40] <liach>
if vanilla removed it, we will make it burn items instead.
<liach>
if vanilla removed it, we will make it burn items instead.L18[00:40:12] <Generalcamo> Ehhhhhhhh
<Generalcamo> EhhhhhhhhL19[00:40:24] <Generalcamo> I'm _really_ not
fond of that
<Generalcamo> I'm _really_ not
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L28[01:18:44] <Natesky9> Just convert it to a
working furnace, but in a minecart
<Natesky9> Just convert it to a
working furnace, but in a minecartL29[01:22:46] <liach>
yeah!
<liach>
yeah!L30[01:26:15] <Generalcamo> Except handling the
automation would be a nightmare
<Generalcamo> Except handling the
automation would be a nightmareL31[01:26:32] <Generalcamo> Sidedness is not exactly
a constant when dealing with entities
<Generalcamo> Sidedness is not exactly
a constant when dealing with entitiesL32[01:27:36] <Natesky9> If you wanted to automate
the furnace minecart, you're assuming it's on a rail,
right?
<Natesky9> If you wanted to automate
the furnace minecart, you're assuming it's on a rail,
right?L33[01:28:01] <Natesky9> which means you can still
use the top, side, and bottom sided-ness
<Natesky9> which means you can still
use the top, side, and bottom sided-nessL34[01:28:30] <Natesky9> but why would you want to
use a furnace minecart in an automated system, when you easilly
could just use a furnace
<Natesky9> but why would you want to
use a furnace minecart in an automated system, when you easilly
could just use a furnaceL35[01:28:57] <Generalcamo> Well why bother with
railcraft when teleporters exist?
<Generalcamo> Well why bother with
railcraft when teleporters exist?L36[01:28:58] <Generalcamo> ?
<Generalcamo> ?L37[01:29:40] <Forecaster> you're right, we
should all quit immidiately
<Forecaster> you're right, we
should all quit immidiatelyL38[01:30:10] <Natesky9> Some things we don't
do because it's convenient, but because it's
enjoyable
<Natesky9> Some things we don't
do because it's convenient, but because it's
enjoyableL39[01:30:26] <Generalcamo> Indeed
<Generalcamo> IndeedL40[01:30:31] <Forecaster> seriously though,
there's zero reason to need to automate a furnace
minecart
<Forecaster> seriously though,
there's zero reason to need to automate a furnace
minecartL41[01:30:41] <Forecaster> it'd be useful for
smelting on the go, and that's it
<Forecaster> it'd be useful for
smelting on the go, and that's itL42[01:30:41] <Generalcamo> You just answered your
own question
<Generalcamo> You just answered your
own questionL43[01:31:15] <Natesky9> however, teleporters
don't exist irl, so trains are actually more efficient, so
railcraft exists for those who want to model their game more around
real life
<Natesky9> however, teleporters
don't exist irl, so trains are actually more efficient, so
railcraft exists for those who want to model their game more around
real lifeL44[01:31:40] <Forecaster> just make loaded items go
in the input slots, and unload items from the output slot
<Forecaster> just make loaded items go
in the input slots, and unload items from the output slotL45[01:31:45] <Generalcamo> My point isn't that
this is all pointless
<Generalcamo> My point isn't that
this is all pointlessL46[01:32:03] <Generalcamo> It's that someone
will challenge themselves to build a fully-automated smelting
train
<Generalcamo> It's that someone
will challenge themselves to build a fully-automated smelting
trainL47[01:32:15] <Generalcamo> @Forecaster Ahh but
which input slot?
<Generalcamo> @Forecaster Ahh but
which input slot?L48[01:32:27] <Natesky9> games are pointless. We
stare at a plastic light screen for hours of end to gain nothing
tangible
<Natesky9> games are pointless. We
stare at a plastic light screen for hours of end to gain nothing
tangibleL49[01:32:46] <Forecaster> if the item has a fuel
value, make it go into the fuel slot
<Forecaster> if the item has a fuel
value, make it go into the fuel slotL50[01:32:56] <Generalcamo> That's most
items
<Generalcamo> That's most
itemsL51[01:33:15] <Forecaster> well, it's not going
to be possible to make it behave like a furnace block
<Forecaster> well, it's not going
to be possible to make it behave like a furnace blockL52[01:33:22] <Forecaster> it'll be up to the
player to deal with the limitations
<Forecaster> it'll be up to the
player to deal with the limitationsL53[01:33:23] <Natesky9> Why not make a furnace
minecart not need fuel if it's linked to a locomotive?
<Natesky9> Why not make a furnace
minecart not need fuel if it's linked to a locomotive?L54[01:33:35] <Forecaster> (or we could add filter
slots)
<Forecaster> (or we could add filter
slots)L55[01:33:43] <Generalcamo> >Steals idea and
calls it a steam oven cart
<Generalcamo> >Steals idea and
calls it a steam oven cartL56[01:34:25] <Forecaster> then it's not a
furnace cart anymore, and the entire discussion was pointless
:P
<Forecaster> then it's not a
furnace cart anymore, and the entire discussion was pointless
:PL57[01:35:24] <Generalcamo> As we have previously
established, this is all pointless! ?
<Generalcamo> As we have previously
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L66[05:50:19] <Natesky9> what is it, a circle?
<Natesky9> what is it, a circle?L67[05:50:32] <Hanakocz> just to add to furnace
minecart discussion, for me the solution would be to add it as a
skin to T0 locomotive, that omits the steam step (or has it
hidden), and is brutally ineffective, but still good starting point
before you get industry to produce actual T1 steam
locomotives
<Hanakocz> just to add to furnace
minecart discussion, for me the solution would be to add it as a
skin to T0 locomotive, that omits the steam step (or has it
hidden), and is brutally ineffective, but still good starting point
before you get industry to produce actual T1 steam
locomotivesL68[05:50:56] <Natesky9> stirling engine on
wheels
<Natesky9> stirling engine on
wheelsL69[05:51:28] <Natesky9> Furnace cart really just
needs an inventory, that's all
<Natesky9> Furnace cart really just
needs an inventory, that's allL70[05:51:28] <Hanakocz> it is still no big deal
when we have "leg powered" carts and redstone
tracks...
<Hanakocz> it is still no big deal
when we have "leg powered" carts and redstone
tracks...L71[05:52:02] <Natesky9> I think the worst part is
that the furnace cart only goes like, 20 blocks on one piece of
coal
<Natesky9> I think the worst part is
that the furnace cart only goes like, 20 blocks on one piece of
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L78[08:30:16] <Hakameda> So uh, on semi-related
note. Anyone try to automate a minecart apiary?
<Hakameda> So uh, on semi-related
note. Anyone try to automate a minecart apiary?L79[08:31:09] <Forecaster> I don't think they
automate by default
<Forecaster> I don't think they
automate by defaultL80[08:31:20] <Forecaster> you need an alveary for
that
<Forecaster> you need an alveary for
thatL81[08:31:31] <Forecaster> but I believe
there's a setting you can change to allow automation
<Forecaster> but I believe
there's a setting you can change to allow automationL82[08:32:10] <Natesky9> what do you mean?
<Natesky9> what do you mean?L83[08:33:00] <Natesky9> the beehouse is the Tier 1,
can't be automated, Apiary is Tier 2 and can be automated with
hoppers and pipes
<Natesky9> the beehouse is the Tier 1,
can't be automated, Apiary is Tier 2 and can be automated with
hoppers and pipesL84[08:34:30] <Forecaster> oh yeah
<Forecaster> oh yeahL85[08:34:54] <Forecaster> oh wait, he said minecart
apiary
<Forecaster> oh wait, he said minecart
apiaryL86[08:35:07] <Forecaster> I have no idea about
those
<Forecaster> I have no idea about
thoseL87[08:35:20] <Forecaster> I'd guess
loaders/unloaders work as you'd expect with them
<Forecaster> I'd guess
loaders/unloaders work as you'd expect with themL88[08:35:31] <Natesky9> I mean, you *can*
<Natesky9> I mean, you *can*L89[08:35:34] <Natesky9> but why would you
<Natesky9> but why would youL90[08:36:43] <Natesky9> That's prime steel you
could otherwise use for cooler stuff
<Natesky9> That's prime steel you
could otherwise use for cooler stuffL91[08:37:30] <Natesky9> Like locomotive tug of
war
<Natesky9> Like locomotive tug of
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L93[09:58:29] <Trinsdar> is it intended that
FluidFuelManager in mods.railcraft.api.fuel doesn't
exist?
<Trinsdar> is it intended that
FluidFuelManager in mods.railcraft.api.fuel doesn't
exist?L94[09:58:52] <Forecaster> that sounds like a
#coding issue
<Forecaster> that sounds like a
#coding issueL95[10:04:50] ⇨
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L96[10:15:14] <Hakameda> @Natesky9 because we are in
a rail only world =p
<Hakameda> @Natesky9 because we are in
a rail only world =pL97[10:16:05] <Hakameda> That's why locomotives
not working sucks
<Hakameda> That's why locomotives
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L110[14:56:13] <Kodos>
Locomotives don't work?
<Kodos>
Locomotives don't work?L111[14:56:27] <Kodos>
Or are you on about newer MC versions
<Kodos>
Or are you on about newer MC versionsL112[15:00:02] ⇦
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L113[15:07:38] <liach>
he is a 17 player
<liach>
he is a 17 playerL114[15:39:35]
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L124[16:41:06] <Hakameda> They work ish
<Hakameda> They work ishL125[16:41:15] <Hakameda> Some bad issues
<Hakameda> Some bad issuesL126[16:42:20] ⇦
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L129[16:56:43] <Kodos>
I play 1.7 as well. Only real issue I've noticed is sometimes
a train will disconnect
<Kodos>
I play 1.7 as well. Only real issue I've noticed is sometimes
a train will disconnectL130[16:56:50] <Kodos>
Which is a big one, but as it's 1.7 I tend to just work
through it
<Kodos>
Which is a big one, but as it's 1.7 I tend to just work
through itL131[16:56:57] <Kodos>
Since there's not likely to be a bugfix
<Kodos>
Since there's not likely to be a bugfixL132[16:58:57] <liach>
it should be caused by chunk unloading
<liach>
it should be caused by chunk unloadingL133[17:48:15] <Trinsdar> is railcraft getting close
to a beta release?
<Trinsdar> is railcraft getting close
to a beta release?L134[17:48:39] <Trinsdar> or alpha?
<Trinsdar> or alpha?L135[18:03:04] <liach>
@Trinsdar Depends on how close CovertJaguar is to the end of his
hunting season. Well, whether is is an alpha or beta depends on bug
testing. I wish you can test more and report more bugs.
<liach>
@Trinsdar Depends on how close CovertJaguar is to the end of his
hunting season. Well, whether is is an alpha or beta depends on bug
testing. I wish you can test more and report more bugs.L136[18:08:33] <Trinsdar> I will be doing some more
testing but i will also be working on my mod at the same
time.
<Trinsdar> I will be doing some more
testing but i will also be working on my mod at the same
time.L137[18:09:19] <Trinsdar> I was just asking as I
noticed that there was now a changelog.
<Trinsdar> I was just asking as I
noticed that there was now a changelog.L138[18:09:28] <Trinsdar> I was just asking as I
noticed that there is now a changelog. [Edited]
<Trinsdar> I was just asking as I
noticed that there is now a changelog. [Edited]L139[18:17:05] <liach>
yeah, that is a dummy
<liach>
yeah, that is a dummyL140[18:17:14] <liach>
too much is changed.
<liach>
too much is changed.L141[18:32:14] ⇦
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L143[19:05:52] <Trinsdar> what's the best way to
find bugs?
<Trinsdar> what's the best way to
find bugs?L144[19:14:57] <Trinsdar> also is there any torch
placing cart?
<Trinsdar> also is there any torch
placing cart?L145[19:24:40] <Chocohead> The best way to find bugs
is to play with the mod
<Chocohead> The best way to find bugs
is to play with the modL146[19:24:49] <Chocohead> Try everything out, test
possible configurations
<Chocohead> Try everything out, test
possible configurationsL147[19:33:10] <Trinsdar> I may have already found a
bug: high speed electric track does not transfer energy into
electric locos
<Trinsdar> I may have already found a
bug: high speed electric track does not transfer energy into
electric locosL148[19:34:50] <Trinsdar> I may have already found a
bug: high speed electric track does not transfer energy into moving
electric locos
<Trinsdar> I may have already found a
bug: high speed electric track does not transfer energy into moving
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L150[19:49:49] <Trinsdar> "no flex track"
must be a joke.
<Trinsdar> "no flex track"
must be a joke.L151[19:52:55] <Trinsdar> because I certainly did not
saw a track in half.
<Trinsdar> because I certainly did not
saw a track in half.L152[20:43:18] <Generalcamo> @Trinsdar what are you
referring to
<Generalcamo> @Trinsdar what are you
referring toL153[21:01:19] <Trinsdar> if one right clicks a
upgraded track with the upgrade used to upgrade it to what it is,
it says invalid track, not flex track, or already outfitted.
<Trinsdar> if one right clicks a
upgraded track with the upgrade used to upgrade it to what it is,
it says invalid track, not flex track, or already outfitted.L154[21:01:46] <Trinsdar> I figured it was refering
to flex tape/seal
<Trinsdar> I figured it was refering
to flex tape/sealL155[21:49:22]
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L156[21:54:56] <liach>
the invalid info is intentional
<liach>
the invalid info is intentionalL157[22:42:10] ⇦
Quits: Michiyo (Michiyo!~Michiyo@2607:5300:61:8d9::2bad:babe) (Read
error: Connection reset by peer)
L158[22:42:29]
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(Michiyo!~Michiyo@2607:5300:61:8d9::2bad:babe)
L159[22:47:29] ⇦
Quits: Lathanael|Away
(Lathanael|Away!~Lathanael@p5496005F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping
timeout: 200 seconds)
L160[22:49:14]
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(Lathanael|Away!~Lathanael@p549608FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)