L1[00:11:15] 
<Generalcamo> I joked about the Bed
Cart being one step closer to the immersive Hobo Experience
<Generalcamo> I joked about the Bed
Cart being one step closer to the immersive Hobo ExperienceL2[00:11:34] <Generalcamo> I just need to add a
harmonica and we are there
<Generalcamo> I just need to add a
harmonica and we are thereL3[00:12:23] <Generalcamo> I'm personally fine with
it in the Extras Module
<Generalcamo> I'm personally fine with
it in the Extras ModuleL4[00:12:29] <Generalcamo> With the other dubious
carts
<Generalcamo> With the other dubious
cartsL5[00:13:40] <liach>
Anyways the bed cart is the first rideable cart railcraft
gets
<liach>
Anyways the bed cart is the first rideable cart railcraft
getsL6[00:14:54] <Generalcamo> Wait
<Generalcamo> WaitL7[00:15:01] <Generalcamo> So the vanilla cart
wasn't ridable?
<Generalcamo> So the vanilla cart
wasn't ridable?L8[00:15:05] <liach>
It is
<liach>
It isL9[00:15:15] <liach>
But it is not a custom cart by Railcraft @Generalcamo
<liach>
But it is not a custom cart by Railcraft @GeneralcamoL10[00:15:32] <liach>
The vanilla cart is just a simple subclassing that removes rider
penalty for speed
<liach>
The vanilla cart is just a simple subclassing that removes rider
penalty for speedL11[00:51:56] ⇦
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L25[09:41:22] <Resuz>
@liach why do you need LexManos's acceptation?
<Resuz>
@liach why do you need LexManos's acceptation?L26[09:59:49] <liach>
@Resuz because that is a forge bug
<liach>
@Resuz because that is a forge bugL27[10:21:50] ⇨
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L30[11:01:02] <WatchtowerOrator> Time for a
new episode from Forecaster! You're welcome!
L31[11:01:02] <WatchtowerOrator> https://youtu.be/atsSK7Njtgo - RailcraftLP [Episode
102] - Landscaping
L32[11:01:02] <WatchtowerOrator> Tags on
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L34[11:04:59] <Darkelarious> .faq
<Darkelarious> .faqL35[11:05:03] <Darkelarious> !faq
<Darkelarious> !faqL36[11:06:05] <Darkelarious> fine. how's 1.12
coming?
<Darkelarious> fine. how's 1.12
coming?L37[11:06:40] <liach>
do $faq
<liach>
do $faqL38[11:06:45] <liach>
use dollar sign
<liach>
use dollar signL39[11:06:54] <liach>
$faq
<liach>
$faqL40[11:06:55] <Gearbot> Railcraft for 1.12 is **in
progress**. A public build will come eventually!
<Gearbot> Railcraft for 1.12 is **in
progress**. A public build will come eventually!L41[11:06:55] <Gearbot> You can build Railcraft from
source but **cannot** build a jar file. This is intentional.
<Gearbot> You can build Railcraft from
source but **cannot** build a jar file. This is intentional.L42[11:06:55] <Gearbot> There are no builds for 1.8
or 1.9.
<Gearbot> There are no builds for 1.8
or 1.9.L43[11:08:39] <liach>
we are porting old stuff while adding new features. We expect an
alpha for patrons only. The alpha will be probably very buggy and
patrons should be enough to spot a ton of bugs
<liach>
we are porting old stuff while adding new features. We expect an
alpha for patrons only. The alpha will be probably very buggy and
patrons should be enough to spot a ton of bugsL44[11:37:35] <Darkelarious> ty
<Darkelarious> tyL45[11:38:02] <Darkelarious> i never understand that
kind of patron concept... you pay to get bugged :P
<Darkelarious> i never understand that
kind of patron concept... you pay to get bugged :PL46[11:38:14] <Darkelarious> but then again, i guess
those people pre-order games too...
<Darkelarious> but then again, i guess
those people pre-order games too...L47[11:38:25] <Generalcamo> It's more of a reward
for supporting the development
<Generalcamo> It's more of a reward
for supporting the developmentL48[11:38:34] <Darkelarious> early access,
true
<Darkelarious> early access,
trueL49[11:39:13] <Darkelarious> no, let me rephrase
that, i perfectly understand it in this context
<Darkelarious> no, let me rephrase
that, i perfectly understand it in this contextL50[11:39:27] <Darkelarious> i don't understand why
people accept it as well from commercial enterprises
<Darkelarious> i don't understand why
people accept it as well from commercial enterprisesL51[11:39:30] <Darkelarious> (read: EA)
<Darkelarious> (read: EA)L52[11:39:46] <Darkelarious> community project lives
on support from people
<Darkelarious> community project lives
on support from peopleL53[11:39:51] <Darkelarious> companies exploit
it
<Darkelarious> companies exploit
itL54[11:39:54] <Darkelarious> /rant
<Darkelarious> /rantL55[11:40:17] <Generalcamo> By law they must exploit
it
<Generalcamo> By law they must exploit
itL56[11:40:30] <Generalcamo> Publically traded
companies must exist to make a profit
<Generalcamo> Publically traded
companies must exist to make a profitL57[11:41:04] <Generalcamo> Their shareholders have
a right to expect their investment to grow
<Generalcamo> Their shareholders have
a right to expect their investment to growL58[11:41:34] <liach>
I have a testing procedure avaiable. If you cannot understand it
google it
<liach>
I have a testing procedure avaiable. If you cannot understand it
google itL59[11:41:42] <Darkelarious> yeah.. and I am making
a pretty accurate guess that if they don't squeeze the maximum
amount of money out of something, they'll get sued/penalized for
"mismanagement" or something
<Darkelarious> yeah.. and I am making
a pretty accurate guess that if they don't squeeze the maximum
amount of money out of something, they'll get sued/penalized for
"mismanagement" or somethingL60[11:42:12] <Generalcamo> Not necessarily the
_maximum_ amount, but they must grow onto new horizons
<Generalcamo> Not necessarily the
_maximum_ amount, but they must grow onto new horizonsL61[11:42:21] <Generalcamo> For example, take
advantage of the growing mobile market
<Generalcamo> For example, take
advantage of the growing mobile marketL62[11:42:23] <Darkelarious> liach, was that
directed at me btw? --> i know unit tests and swdev
<Darkelarious> liach, was that
directed at me btw? --> i know unit tests and swdevL63[11:42:46] <Generalcamo> You can build and run
the mod from a dev environment
<Generalcamo> You can build and run
the mod from a dev environmentL64[11:42:52] <Generalcamo> You cannot compile it
however
<Generalcamo> You cannot compile it
howeverL65[11:43:32] <Darkelarious> yeah, i guess so... I'm
still from this generation https://i.imgur.com/zb70iyj.jpg
<Darkelarious> yeah, i guess so... I'm
still from this generation https://i.imgur.com/zb70iyj.jpgL66[11:44:22] <Darkelarious> as for the 1.12 build,
I'm pretty much done playing around with the 1.10 version, i'm
mildly irritated by the bugs I still have there
<Darkelarious> as for the 1.12 build,
I'm pretty much done playing around with the 1.10 version, i'm
mildly irritated by the bugs I still have thereL67[11:44:28] <Darkelarious> also from other
modpacks
<Darkelarious> also from other
modpacksL68[11:44:32] <Darkelarious> that moved on long
ago
<Darkelarious> that moved on long
agoL69[11:44:46] <Generalcamo> FTB AFAIK hasn't fully
moved on yet
<Generalcamo> FTB AFAIK hasn't fully
moved on yetL70[11:45:32] <Darkelarious> lately i'm having the
bug a lot that ghost trains stay after a restart
<Darkelarious> lately i'm having the
bug a lot that ghost trains stay after a restartL71[11:45:48] <Darkelarious> if i recall it had to
do with a vanilla bug, holding tracks and chunk (re)loading
<Darkelarious> if i recall it had to
do with a vanilla bug, holding tracks and chunk (re)loadingL72[11:45:59] <Generalcamo> Ghost trains? They
shouldn't appear except during halloween
<Generalcamo> Ghost trains? They
shouldn't appear except during halloweenL73[11:46:08] <Darkelarious> the other kind of ghost
trains
<Darkelarious> the other kind of ghost
trainsL74[11:46:15] <Darkelarious> invisible, blocking
volumes
<Darkelarious> invisible, blocking
volumesL75[11:46:18] <Generalcamo> Oh
<Generalcamo> OhL76[11:46:19] <Darkelarious> until you shoot them
with bow/arrow
<Darkelarious> until you shoot them
with bow/arrowL77[11:46:24] <Generalcamo> Well
<Generalcamo> WellL78[11:46:32] <Generalcamo> Now you know we have
_actual ghost trains_
<Generalcamo> Now you know we have
_actual ghost trains_L79[11:46:39] <Darkelarious> that's fucking sweet
btw
<Darkelarious> that's fucking sweet
btwL80[11:48:04] <Darkelarious> how do i properly
#showcase a track/server?
<Darkelarious> how do i properly
#showcase a track/server?L81[11:48:13] <Darkelarious> just dump a load of
sshots in there? or?
<Darkelarious> just dump a load of
sshots in there? or?L82[11:48:46] <Generalcamo> Put it in a gallery and
then post it if you want
<Generalcamo> Put it in a gallery and
then post it if you wantL83[11:49:24] <Darkelarious> gallery... that was a
thing, wasn't it?
<Darkelarious> gallery... that was a
thing, wasn't it?L84[11:49:37] <Darkelarious> screw it, i'll write my
own gallery script...
<Darkelarious> screw it, i'll write my
own gallery script...L85[11:50:51] <Generalcamo> Imgur has that
option
<Generalcamo> Imgur has that
optionL86[11:53:41] <Darkelarious> i never upload to imgur
in general
<Darkelarious> i never upload to imgur
in generalL87[11:53:48] <Darkelarious> ah well, excuse to
quickly code something
<Darkelarious> ah well, excuse to
quickly code somethingL88[12:08:40] <liach>
discord allows you to upload files too
<liach>
discord allows you to upload files tooL89[12:15:21] <Generalcamo> @liach No, not a
gallery
<Generalcamo> @liach No, not a
galleryL90[12:15:26] <Generalcamo> Not without spamming the
entire channel
<Generalcamo> Not without spamming the
entire channelL91[12:21:02] <liach>
oh gallery
<liach>
oh galleryL92[12:30:34] <Darkelarious> my thought
exactly
<Darkelarious> my thought
exactlyL93[12:31:32] <Darkelarious> anyway, linking my
self-written gallery
<Darkelarious> anyway, linking my
self-written galleryL94[12:34:47] <Generalcamo> That photo gallery is
reminding me of the old pantograph PR...
<Generalcamo> That photo gallery is
reminding me of the old pantograph PR...L95[12:36:28] <Darkelarious> I see nothing wrong
with that :)
<Darkelarious> I see nothing wrong
with that :)L96[12:36:52] <Darkelarious> besides, quickly
wiriting my own gallery website is a skill on its own
<Darkelarious> besides, quickly
wiriting my own gallery website is a skill on its ownL97[12:37:31] <Darkelarious> though i admit to
having the framework around it already
<Darkelarious> though i admit to
having the framework around it alreadyL98[13:02:18] <Darkelarious> I would like to talk
about some buggy behaviour of large powered electric track
nets
<Darkelarious> I would like to talk
about some buggy behaviour of large powered electric track
netsL99[13:03:12] <Darkelarious> i noticed that when i
was working on it, the entire track seems to be redistributing the
power all over the place
<Darkelarious> i noticed that when i
was working on it, the entire track seems to be redistributing the
power all over the placeL100[13:03:24] <Darkelarious> since not everything is
chunkloaded, some parts remain powered, others don't
<Darkelarious> since not everything is
chunkloaded, some parts remain powered, others don'tL101[13:03:38] <Generalcamo> Are you on 1.10 or
1.7
<Generalcamo> Are you on 1.10 or
1.7L102[13:03:41] <Darkelarious> 1.10
<Darkelarious> 1.10L103[13:05:48] <Generalcamo> Batteries are designed
to help with that problem
<Generalcamo> Batteries are designed
to help with that problemL104[13:05:58] <Darkelarious> so i decided to add a
few more power nodes (like http://share.333networks.com/share/minecraft/Railcraft/Screenshot%20from%202018-07-07%2018:53:29.png
)
<Darkelarious> so i decided to add a
few more power nodes (like http://share.333networks.com/share/minecraft/Railcraft/Screenshot%20from%202018-07-07%2018:53:29.png
)L105[13:06:00] <Generalcamo> Putting them
strategically along the line will keep them powered
<Generalcamo> Putting them
strategically along the line will keep them poweredL106[13:06:23] <Generalcamo> Power nodes are probably
excessive, a battery should do the same thing
<Generalcamo> Power nodes are probably
excessive, a battery should do the same thingL107[13:06:42] <Darkelarious> I didn't know of
batteries yet at that point, i'll look into it
<Darkelarious> I didn't know of
batteries yet at that point, i'll look into itL108[13:06:55] <Darkelarious> anyway, adding these
power nodes instigates another buggy situation;
<Darkelarious> anyway, adding these
power nodes instigates another buggy situation;L109[13:07:04] <Darkelarious> it feels like the power
keeps getting redistributed all the time
<Darkelarious> it feels like the power
keeps getting redistributed all the timeL110[13:07:08] <Darkelarious> and it never fully
powers
<Darkelarious> and it never fully
powersL111[13:07:14] <Darkelarious> and lags like
hell
<Darkelarious> and lags like
hellL112[13:07:23] <Darkelarious> (causing a lot of
skipped ticks)
<Darkelarious> (causing a lot of
skipped ticks)L113[13:07:31] <Generalcamo> Another reason batteries
were added
<Generalcamo> Another reason batteries
were addedL114[13:07:52] <Darkelarious> ok
<Darkelarious> okL115[13:08:06] <Darkelarious> my fix, though, was to
use section separators instead though
<Darkelarious> my fix, though, was to
use section separators instead thoughL116[13:08:07] <Darkelarious> http://share.333networks.com/share/minecraft/Railcraft/Screenshot%20from%202018-07-07%2018:53:04.png
<Darkelarious> http://share.333networks.com/share/minecraft/Railcraft/Screenshot%20from%202018-07-07%2018:53:04.pngL117[13:08:18] <Generalcamo> I mean that works
too
<Generalcamo> I mean that works
tooL118[13:08:25] <Darkelarious> this way you keep the
total sections smaller, each with about 5000 tracks in there or
so
<Darkelarious> this way you keep the
total sections smaller, each with about 5000 tracks in there or
soL119[13:08:44] <Generalcamo> Is that concrete you are
using for the flooring?
<Generalcamo> Is that concrete you are
using for the flooring?L120[13:08:49] <Darkelarious> yup
<Darkelarious> yupL121[13:08:57] <Generalcamo> You are going to love
1.12 then
<Generalcamo> You are going to love
1.12 thenL122[13:09:09] <Generalcamo> You can now color
concrete
<Generalcamo> You can now color
concreteL123[13:09:23] <Darkelarious> nice
<Darkelarious> niceL124[13:09:25] <Generalcamo> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395524766607605760/464691364484087828/2018-07-06_03.13.47.png
<Generalcamo> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395524766607605760/464691364484087828/2018-07-06_03.13.47.pngL125[13:09:34] <Darkelarious> autocraftable?
<Darkelarious> autocraftable?L126[13:09:43] <Generalcamo> I'm sure you can
automate it
<Generalcamo> I'm sure you can
automate itL127[13:09:56] <Generalcamo> It uses the same recipe
as strengthened glass for dying
<Generalcamo> It uses the same recipe
as strengthened glass for dyingL128[13:10:02] <Generalcamo> 8 blocks around a
dye
<Generalcamo> 8 blocks around a
dyeL129[13:10:02] <Darkelarious> ok
<Darkelarious> okL130[13:10:08] <Darkelarious> that's automatable,
yes
<Darkelarious> that's automatable,
yesL131[13:10:20] <Darkelarious> what about posts? in my
version i couldn't color metal posts yet
<Darkelarious> what about posts? in my
version i couldn't color metal posts yetL132[13:10:51] <Generalcamo> They can be colored
now
<Generalcamo> They can be colored
nowL133[13:10:59] <Generalcamo> Along with Force Track
emitters
<Generalcamo> Along with Force Track
emittersL134[13:11:05] <Darkelarious> force track?
<Darkelarious> force track?L135[13:11:10] <Darkelarious> oh, those force
tracks
<Darkelarious> oh, those force
tracksL136[13:11:15] <Generalcamo> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395524766607605760/462824559867985930/2018-06-30_23.38.18.png
<Generalcamo> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395524766607605760/462824559867985930/2018-06-30_23.38.18.pngL137[13:11:19] <Darkelarious> neat
<Darkelarious> neatL138[13:11:32] <Darkelarious> though i actually never
use them, since i like the high speed track more :P
<Darkelarious> though i actually never
use them, since i like the high speed track more :PL139[13:12:10] <Darkelarious> the ghost/bugged trains
were a native vanilla bug that wouldn't get fixed for a while
right?
<Darkelarious> the ghost/bugged trains
were a native vanilla bug that wouldn't get fixed for a while
right?L140[13:12:56] <Darkelarious> has anyone reported
crashes with the cosmetic carts btw?
<Darkelarious> has anyone reported
crashes with the cosmetic carts btw?L141[13:13:26] <Darkelarious> a while ago i placed
some cosmetic addon carts, and it started crashing once i
teleported closeby them
<Darkelarious> a while ago i placed
some cosmetic addon carts, and it started crashing once i
teleported closeby themL142[13:13:43] <Darkelarious> had to use MCEdit to
reclaim access to the area
<Darkelarious> had to use MCEdit to
reclaim access to the areaL143[13:13:48] <Darkelarious> have't tried to
reproduce it though
<Darkelarious> have't tried to
reproduce it thoughL144[13:28:58] <liach>
@Darkelarious That issue with charge network should not
happen
<liach>
@Darkelarious That issue with charge network should not
happenL145[13:29:14] <liach>
As long as a world is loaded the whole charge network in that world
is loaded
<liach>
As long as a world is loaded the whole charge network in that world
is loadedL146[13:36:12] <Generalcamo> ^This is correct.
Batteries exist to handle inconsistencies in loading which should
iron out issues with it
<Generalcamo> ^This is correct.
Batteries exist to handle inconsistencies in loading which should
iron out issues with itL147[13:37:39] <Darkelarious> how do these batteries
work btw?
<Darkelarious> how do these batteries
work btw?L148[13:37:45] <Darkelarious> how do you use
them?
<Darkelarious> how do you use
them?L149[13:45:41] <Generalcamo> Attach them to charge
wires
<Generalcamo> Attach them to charge
wiresL150[13:45:49] <Generalcamo> They will charge and
discharge as needed
<Generalcamo> They will charge and
discharge as neededL151[13:46:01] <Generalcamo> Currently two batteries
exist
<Generalcamo> Currently two batteries
existL152[13:46:12] <Generalcamo> It's a tradeoff between
efficiency and capacity right now
<Generalcamo> It's a tradeoff between
efficiency and capacity right nowL153[13:46:18] <Generalcamo> Later more types will be
added
<Generalcamo> Later more types will be
addedL154[13:50:14] <Resuz>
some Traincraft trains can even faster than minecart on H.S.
tracks
<Resuz>
some Traincraft trains can even faster than minecart on H.S.
tracksL155[13:53:23] <Timothey> Hi there
<Timothey> Hi thereL156[13:53:29] <Darkelarious> wasn't there a config
setting for that? :)
<Darkelarious> wasn't there a config
setting for that? :)L157[13:53:40] <Timothey> How soon the mod will be
ported on 1.12.2&
<Timothey> How soon the mod will be
ported on 1.12.2&L158[13:53:41] <Timothey> ?
<Timothey> ?L159[13:53:46] <bball.psd> $faq
<bball.psd> $faqL160[13:53:46] <Gearbot> Railcraft for 1.12 is **in
progress**. A public build will come eventually!
<Gearbot> Railcraft for 1.12 is **in
progress**. A public build will come eventually!L161[13:53:46] <Gearbot> You can build Railcraft from
source but **cannot** build a jar file. This is intentional.
<Gearbot> You can build Railcraft from
source but **cannot** build a jar file. This is intentional.L162[13:53:47] <Gearbot> There are no builds for 1.8
or 1.9.
<Gearbot> There are no builds for 1.8
or 1.9.L163[13:53:47] <Timothey> ?
<Timothey> ?L164[13:54:56] <Darkelarious> pushing the usual
question a bit, in terms of resolution, is it reasonable to expect
the 1.12 before Q4 2018, or are we looking at Q2 2019?
<Darkelarious> pushing the usual
question a bit, in terms of resolution, is it reasonable to expect
the 1.12 before Q4 2018, or are we looking at Q2 2019?L165[13:55:31] <Timothey> ?
<Timothey> ?L166[13:56:32] <bball.psd> Based on recent
conversations, a Patron alpha should be coming soon, then the full
release soon™ after that
<bball.psd> Based on recent
conversations, a Patron alpha should be coming soon, then the full
release soon™ after thatL167[13:56:33] <bball.psd> so probably by end of
2018, **NO PROMISES**
<bball.psd> so probably by end of
2018, **NO PROMISES**L168[13:56:33] <liach>
I do not know
<liach>
I do not knowL169[13:56:40] <liach>
I do not know when covertjaguar will come back
<liach>
I do not know when covertjaguar will come backL170[13:56:50] <liach>
But what I know is you can build from source and test run
<liach>
But what I know is you can build from source and test runL171[13:56:54] <liach>
!?run
<liach>
!?runL173[13:58:05] <Darkelarious> bball, you may want to
bind the text "no promises" to "No rights can be
derived from the information provided in this message." or
something like that :)
<Darkelarious> bball, you may want to
bind the text "no promises" to "No rights can be
derived from the information provided in this message." or
something like that :)L174[13:58:23] <bball.psd> nah i avoid the
legalese
<bball.psd> nah i avoid the
legaleseL175[13:58:28] <Darkelarious> heh
<Darkelarious> hehL176[13:58:42] <Timothey> ok than
<Timothey> ok thanL177[13:58:45] <Darkelarious> but thanks, that means
I'll probably first complete another pack in the meanwhile before
starting 1.12 RC
<Darkelarious> but thanks, that means
I'll probably first complete another pack in the meanwhile before
starting 1.12 RCL178[13:58:51] <Timothey> if i would play with some
other mods
<Timothey> if i would play with some
other modsL179[13:58:59] <Timothey> how can i build it in
<Timothey> how can i build it inL180[13:59:01] <Timothey> ?
<Timothey> ?L181[13:59:19] <Darkelarious> how does that work with
the FTB team, do they decide whether RC ends up in a modpack, or do
you guys push for it to be included?
<Darkelarious> how does that work with
the FTB team, do they decide whether RC ends up in a modpack, or do
you guys push for it to be included?L182[14:05:06]
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Railcraft/Railcraft#1125 (indev-1.12.2 - 0e23b39 : Cody Brittain):
The build has errored.
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L187[14:06:37] <Generalcamo> They decide
<Generalcamo> They decideL188[14:06:56] <Generalcamo> Though RC is of such a
high profile it's likely to be included honestly
<Generalcamo> Though RC is of such a
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