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L28[06:47:23] <Lei of
Nihility> Hey guys. I'm realy sorry if I'm missing
something obvious but I have a question about the anchor carts for
1.10(.2), I've been trying to find info as to when and where
they would be implimented in the current version and thought I saw
mention that they were but I can't seem to find them. I'm
using 10.1.2. If not implimented do you guys have any suggestions
for alternative able to be used over large networks?
<Lei of
Nihility> Hey guys. I'm realy sorry if I'm missing
something obvious but I have a question about the anchor carts for
1.10(.2), I've been trying to find info as to when and where
they would be implimented in the current version and thought I saw
mention that they were but I can't seem to find them. I'm
using 10.1.2. If not implimented do you guys have any suggestions
for alternative able to be used over large networks?L29[06:50:42] ⇦
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L31[06:53:54] <Forecaster> anchor carts are in beta
right now
<Forecaster> anchor carts are in beta
right nowL32[06:54:22] <Forecaster> they'll be released
when ready
<Forecaster> they'll be released
when readyL33[06:54:31] <Forecaster> and as far as I'm
aware there isn't really an alternative
<Forecaster> and as far as I'm
aware there isn't really an alternativeL34[06:58:16] <Lei of
Nihility> Thats a shame, thanks for your time ^^ I had used the
search function here there and everywhere to find a definitive
before asking XD
<Lei of
Nihility> Thats a shame, thanks for your time ^^ I had used the
search function here there and everywhere to find a definitive
before asking XDL35[06:59:02] <Forecaster> well, like I said,
they're in beta, they're being tested
<Forecaster> well, like I said,
they're in beta, they're being testedL36[06:59:11] <Forecaster> they'll be released
to the public eventually
<Forecaster> they'll be released
to the public eventuallyL37[06:59:23] <Forecaster> if you want early access
you can become a patron ;)
<Forecaster> if you want early access
you can become a patron ;)L38[06:59:31] <Hanakocz> it is not such a shame,
they are ALREADY in beta, so it is cool they are there so soon xD
compared to otherr things xD
<Hanakocz> it is not such a shame,
they are ALREADY in beta, so it is cool they are there so soon xD
compared to otherr things xDL39[07:00:13] <Lei of
Nihility> The steves carts chunkloader module is all well and
good but I find that they detatch often. Though I have just
thought, custom NPCs can chunk load, I might have to do some
testing and see whether one can be dressed up as a conductor and
sent around with the train XD
<Lei of
Nihility> The steves carts chunkloader module is all well and
good but I find that they detatch often. Though I have just
thought, custom NPCs can chunk load, I might have to do some
testing and see whether one can be dressed up as a conductor and
sent around with the train XDL40[07:00:13] <Hanakocz> (read: you are lucky they
are higher priority than other things xD)
<Hanakocz> (read: you are lucky they
are higher priority than other things xD)L41[07:00:54] <Hanakocz> if you can put any armor on
NPC, you can try Railcraft cosmetic conductor uniforms xD
<Hanakocz> if you can put any armor on
NPC, you can try Railcraft cosmetic conductor uniforms xDL42[07:01:33] <Lei of
Nihility> :3 Either that or skin them in general. I'll have
to test this now. Poor guy, riding the rails ad infinitum
<Lei of
Nihility> :3 Either that or skin them in general. I'll have
to test this now. Poor guy, riding the rails ad infinitumL43[07:02:47] <Hanakocz> you even can stuff him with
hand signals or whistle (probably you won't be able to make
him use tht whistle though, dunno, don't know those NPCs a
lot)
<Hanakocz> you even can stuff him with
hand signals or whistle (probably you won't be able to make
him use tht whistle though, dunno, don't know those NPCs a
lot)L45[07:12:04] <Lei of
Nihility> I... feel really guilty for this XD
<Lei of
Nihility> I... feel really guilty for this XDL46[07:12:43] ⇨
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L48[07:15:35] <Hanakocz> haha cool
<Hanakocz> haha coolL49[07:16:26] ⇦
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L52[07:22:25] <Lei of
Nihility> He's now off on an adventure, lets see if
encarceration gets him all the way around the track. :p
<Lei of
Nihility> He's now off on an adventure, lets see if
encarceration gets him all the way around the track. :pL53[07:22:43] <Elourge> Whats those pillars under
the glowstone lamps
<Elourge> Whats those pillars under
the glowstone lampsL55[07:25:08] <Lei of
Nihility> Initially got the mod for the path wedge piece but
these pillars have become invaluable since
<Lei of
Nihility> Initially got the mod for the path wedge piece but
these pillars have become invaluable sinceL56[07:26:36] ⇦
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L63[09:43:56] <Joshwoo70> was thinking chisel and
bits
<Joshwoo70> was thinking chisel and
bitsL64[09:52:29] <Forecaster> huh, wooden lamps, pretty
nice
<Forecaster> huh, wooden lamps, pretty
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L80[14:00:22] <MipoloArchiletti> How do you guys
integrate Railcraft in your bases?
<MipoloArchiletti> How do you guys
integrate Railcraft in your bases?L81[14:02:00] <MipoloArchiletti> I'm working on
a factory build with IE in Direwolf20 1.10 and wanted to have some
kind of above-ground rail system for item transport, but I'm
not sure how rails will benefit me
<MipoloArchiletti> I'm working on
a factory build with IE in Direwolf20 1.10 and wanted to have some
kind of above-ground rail system for item transport, but I'm
not sure how rails will benefit meL82[14:05:42] <Forecaster> trains are good for
moving items long distances
<Forecaster> trains are good for
moving items long distancesL83[14:06:28] <Natesky9> I usually have a train line
delivering things to/from farms and eventually, factories or
mines
<Natesky9> I usually have a train line
delivering things to/from farms and eventually, factories or
minesL84[14:06:43] <bball>
assuming you have no teleporters in your modpack (although they are
much more expensive than rails anyways)
<bball>
assuming you have no teleporters in your modpack (although they are
much more expensive than rails anyways)L85[14:06:50] <bball>
they are the best
<bball>
they are the bestL86[14:07:01] <bball>
railways
<bball>
railwaysL87[14:07:03] <MipoloArchiletti> I'm trying to
confine myself to an industrial age aesthetic
<MipoloArchiletti> I'm trying to
confine myself to an industrial age aestheticL88[14:07:20] <MipoloArchiletti> I'm thinking
having above ground trains like how they did in NYC back in the
day
<MipoloArchiletti> I'm thinking
having above ground trains like how they did in NYC back in the
dayL89[14:08:33] <Natesky9> Bridges, tunnels, all the
like are great with trains
<Natesky9> Bridges, tunnels, all the
like are great with trainsL90[14:08:40] ⇦
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L91[14:08:55] <MipoloArchiletti> Would I need to set
up some kind of railyard or switchyard to organize all the
different lines?
<MipoloArchiletti> Would I need to set
up some kind of railyard or switchyard to organize all the
different lines?L92[14:09:15] <bball>
Depending on how many you have
<bball>
Depending on how many you haveL93[14:09:29] <Natesky9> Well, most of the switches
happen on the line. But you'll definitely want a switch yard,
for say, unloading/loading docks
<Natesky9> Well, most of the switches
happen on the line. But you'll definitely want a switch yard,
for say, unloading/loading docksL94[14:10:08] <Natesky9> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276520011261149188/324997438194843648/when_developer_wants_something_different.gif
<Natesky9> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276520011261149188/324997438194843648/when_developer_wants_something_different.gifL95[14:10:25] <MipoloArchiletti> I can show the
setup I've built for myself so far with regard to how much
space I have, I used a builder to fill in an ocean for some
flatlands
<MipoloArchiletti> I can show the
setup I've built for myself so far with regard to how much
space I have, I used a builder to fill in an ocean for some
flatlandsL96[14:11:04] <Natesky9> This was my loading dock
for my treefarm setup
<Natesky9> This was my loading dock
for my treefarm setupL97[14:11:04] <Natesky9> https://images.discordapp.net/attachments/225184360049934336/314868638790451212/2017-04-05_18.32.57.png?width=761&height=418
<Natesky9> https://images.discordapp.net/attachments/225184360049934336/314868638790451212/2017-04-05_18.32.57.png?width=761&height=418L98[14:12:21] <Thoughtless> Hey guys, i'm a
little bit confused with RC and maybe you can gelp me :) I got RC
10.1.2 für MC 1.10.2 - since i don't have IC2 installed RC
deletes the electric charge feeder.. no EU.. so far so good, in RC
9.4.0.0 should a Flux Transformere been added.. but there is none..
how am i supposed to power the electric rails? :(
<Thoughtless> Hey guys, i'm a
little bit confused with RC and maybe you can gelp me :) I got RC
10.1.2 für MC 1.10.2 - since i don't have IC2 installed RC
deletes the electric charge feeder.. no EU.. so far so good, in RC
9.4.0.0 should a Flux Transformere been added.. but there is none..
how am i supposed to power the electric rails? :(L99[14:12:47] <Natesky9> Only IC2 at the
moment
<Natesky9> Only IC2 at the
momentL100[14:13:01] <Natesky9> You can use the steam
turbine
<Natesky9> You can use the steam
turbineL101[14:13:11] <Natesky9> that produces RC
charge
<Natesky9> that produces RC
chargeL102[14:14:09] <Thoughtless> there is no
turbine
<Thoughtless> there is no
turbineL103[14:14:29] <Natesky9> Hmm
<Natesky9> HmmL104[14:14:33] <Natesky9> Oh right, no
multiblocks
<Natesky9> Oh right, no
multiblocksL105[14:14:37] <Natesky9> ....
<Natesky9> ....L106[14:14:39] <Natesky9> well shit
<Natesky9> well shitL107[14:14:57] <Thoughtless> common multiblock
problem ?
<Thoughtless> common multiblock
problem ?L108[14:17:29] <Thoughtless> the only workaround i
got so far is make a recipe for the admin charge feeder unit..
but.. yeah.. kind of not good ^^
<Thoughtless> the only workaround i
got so far is make a recipe for the admin charge feeder unit..
but.. yeah.. kind of not good ^^L109[14:18:03] <Natesky9> Actually
<Natesky9> ActuallyL110[14:18:14] <Natesky9> charge has been improved in
this version
<Natesky9> charge has been improved in
this versionL111[14:19:22] <Thoughtless> how? ^^
<Thoughtless> how? ^^L112[14:20:12] <Natesky9> Well, it's not so
lossy, plus it behaves like the IE power lines
<Natesky9> Well, it's not so
lossy, plus it behaves like the IE power linesL113[14:20:26] <Natesky9> no longer does the entire
track have to be loaded in order to work
<Natesky9> no longer does the entire
track have to be loaded in order to workL114[14:20:40] <Natesky9> (also, saves performance,
because no more tile entity ticks
<Natesky9> (also, saves performance,
because no more tile entity ticksL115[14:20:43] <Natesky9> (also, saves performance,
because no more tile entity ticks)
<Natesky9> (also, saves performance,
because no more tile entity ticks)L116[14:21:08] <Natesky9> any time charge is used, it
is pulled from theconnected supplier
<Natesky9> any time charge is used, it
is pulled from theconnected supplierL117[14:21:14] <Natesky9> any time charge is used, it
is pulled from the connected supplier
<Natesky9> any time charge is used, it
is pulled from the connected supplierL118[14:21:15] <Thoughtless> sounds good, but
doesn't help if you hate ic2 xD
<Thoughtless> sounds good, but
doesn't help if you hate ic2 xDL119[14:21:23] <Natesky9> aww come on
<Natesky9> aww come onL120[14:21:32] <Natesky9> IC2 may have it's
quirks
<Natesky9> IC2 may have it's
quirksL121[14:21:40] <Natesky9> but it's one of my
classic mods
<Natesky9> but it's one of my
classic modsL122[14:21:44] <Natesky9> but it's one of the
classic mods
<Natesky9> but it's one of the
classic modsL123[14:22:16] <Natesky9> Yeah, it's evolved
over time, changed into something more complicated
<Natesky9> Yeah, it's evolved
over time, changed into something more complicatedL124[14:22:17] <Thoughtless> ic2 is like a 5$
hooker.. too many people have missused it ^^
<Thoughtless> ic2 is like a 5$
hooker.. too many people have missused it ^^L125[14:22:21] <MipoloArchiletti> I hadn't
played it since b1.7.3 and had the surprise of my life trying to
get it working again
<MipoloArchiletti> I hadn't
played it since b1.7.3 and had the surprise of my life trying to
get it working againL126[14:25:36] <Thoughtless> we had servers with ic2
which produced so big log files the hdd went full and the world
corrupted..
<Thoughtless> we had servers with ic2
which produced so big log files the hdd went full and the world
corrupted..L127[14:25:48] <Natesky9> I can vouch that ic2 is
pretty well balanced, as compared to other mods
<Natesky9> I can vouch that ic2 is
pretty well balanced, as compared to other modsL128[14:25:49] <liach>
IC2 is extremely good
<liach>
IC2 is extremely goodL129[14:26:04] <liach>
Tell player if you have issues with ic2, he is here
<liach>
Tell player if you have issues with ic2, he is hereL130[14:26:29] <Natesky9> I do actually have a bug
for him
<Natesky9> I do actually have a bug
for himL131[14:26:32] <Thoughtless> i don't have issues
with ic2 xD ic2 is not installed :D
<Thoughtless> i don't have issues
with ic2 xD ic2 is not installed :DL132[14:27:23] <Thoughtless> but the lack of ic2
makes the issue with RC...
<Thoughtless> but the lack of ic2
makes the issue with RC...L133[14:27:43] <Player> that was only a temporary
issue in particular versions
<Player> that was only a temporary
issue in particular versionsL134[14:28:05] <Player> these days you can disable
enet logging and you always could use a suitable log4j filtering
config
<Player> these days you can disable
enet logging and you always could use a suitable log4j filtering
configL135[14:28:56] <Hanakocz> playing without IC2 is like
playing vanilla xD
<Hanakocz> playing without IC2 is like
playing vanilla xDL136[14:31:57] <MipoloArchiletti> I get so much early
game anxiety trying to get my hands on all the early game crafting
components
<MipoloArchiletti> I get so much early
game anxiety trying to get my hands on all the early game crafting
componentsL137[14:32:19] <Thoughtless> sry i didn't want
to start a discussion about ic2.. its a good mod, i just don't
like it that much, which is fine ^^
<Thoughtless> sry i didn't want
to start a discussion about ic2.. its a good mod, i just don't
like it that much, which is fine ^^L138[14:36:51] <Thoughtless> I might have a gregtech
trauma^^
<Thoughtless> I might have a gregtech
trauma^^L139[14:42:01] <Natesky9> Ic2 is one of those things
where you really want Autocrafting/factory
<Natesky9> Ic2 is one of those things
where you really want Autocrafting/factoryL140[14:42:28] <Natesky9> Where you can just set up
once, and put in materials
<Natesky9> Where you can just set up
once, and put in materialsL141[14:42:38] <MipoloArchiletti> Which mod does
autocrafting best?
<MipoloArchiletti> Which mod does
autocrafting best?L142[14:42:55] <MipoloArchiletti> I find crafting to
be where I start fizzling out right after earlygame
<MipoloArchiletti> I find crafting to
be where I start fizzling out right after earlygameL143[14:42:56] <Natesky9> Ic2 actually has a crafter
now
<Natesky9> Ic2 actually has a crafter
nowL144[14:43:28] <Natesky9> Uh, ender IO has an
autocrafter
<Natesky9> Uh, ender IO has an
autocrafterL145[14:44:01] <MipoloArchiletti> What's your
opinion on crafting options for mods like Refined Storage and
AE2?
<MipoloArchiletti> What's your
opinion on crafting options for mods like Refined Storage and
AE2?L146[14:44:36] <bball>
AE2 autocrafting is extremely good if you know how to set it
up
<bball>
AE2 autocrafting is extremely good if you know how to set it
upL147[14:45:26] <Natesky9> AE2 is mid-to-late game
though
<Natesky9> AE2 is mid-to-late game
thoughL148[14:45:50] <Natesky9> when you have quite some
diamonds and redstone to spare
<Natesky9> when you have quite some
diamonds and redstone to spareL149[14:46:00] <bball>
that too
<bball>
that tooL150[14:46:19] <Natesky9> for early game crafting,
it's the same as storage
<Natesky9> for early game crafting,
it's the same as storageL151[14:46:21] <Thoughtless> they are both good, but
it gets boring if you do it for the 50th time ^^
<Thoughtless> they are both good, but
it gets boring if you do it for the 50th time ^^L152[14:46:28] <bball>
but redstone is easy to get, and diamonds arent _too_ bad if you
have a quarry of some sort
<bball>
but redstone is easy to get, and diamonds arent _too_ bad if you
have a quarry of some sortL153[14:46:33] <Natesky9> Well then, get
creative
<Natesky9> Well then, get
creativeL154[14:46:43] <Natesky9> you have almost limitless
possibilities
<Natesky9> you have almost limitless
possibilitiesL155[14:46:49] <Hanakocz> with few forestry
worktables the crafting is not boring part , waiting for machines
to get the resources is xD (until you make them fast)
<Hanakocz> with few forestry
worktables the crafting is not boring part , waiting for machines
to get the resources is xD (until you make them fast)L156[14:47:01] <MipoloArchiletti> I have a decent RS
system right now and an excess of resources, but since I'm
rebuilding my base I'm open for change
<MipoloArchiletti> I have a decent RS
system right now and an excess of resources, but since I'm
rebuilding my base I'm open for changeL157[14:47:35] <Natesky9> I have a decent system, but
it's still not very grea, and what I like to do is actually
expand to several locations
<Natesky9> I have a decent system, but
it's still not very grea, and what I like to do is actually
expand to several locationsL158[14:48:02] <Natesky9> like I showed before, I set
my farms and factories further out, and connect them with
trains
<Natesky9> like I showed before, I set
my farms and factories further out, and connect them with
trainsL159[14:48:14] <Natesky9> playing at 40 fps is not
fun
<Natesky9> playing at 40 fps is not
funL160[14:49:51] <Hanakocz> ya, it has some positives
to spread things out, chunkload those bases and get deliveries,
instead of putting everything into one base
<Hanakocz> ya, it has some positives
to spread things out, chunkload those bases and get deliveries,
instead of putting everything into one baseL161[14:51:09] <Natesky9> It actually affects your
mood, when you're in your base all day
<Natesky9> It actually affects your
mood, when you're in your base all dayL162[14:51:21] <Thoughtless> unfortunately that
doesn't work very well on a server with ~ 15 people ^^
<Thoughtless> unfortunately that
doesn't work very well on a server with ~ 15 people ^^L163[14:51:22] <Natesky9> It actually affects your
mood, when your in your base all day
<Natesky9> It actually affects your
mood, when your in your base all dayL164[14:51:34] <Natesky9> Well
<Natesky9> WellL165[14:51:54] <Natesky9> if those people are at
least courtious of your stuff
<Natesky9> if those people are at
least courtious of your stuffL166[14:52:03] <Natesky9> they won't mess with
your rails
<Natesky9> they won't mess with
your railsL167[14:52:15] <Natesky9> unfortunately, on public
servers, that isn't always the case
<Natesky9> unfortunately, on public
servers, that isn't always the caseL168[14:52:19] <Hanakocz> well, you can live some 5K
blocks away so they visit only occasionally
<Hanakocz> well, you can live some 5K
blocks away so they visit only occasionallyL169[14:52:33] <Thoughtless> the problem isn't
griefing, its tha amount of loaded chunks
<Thoughtless> the problem isn't
griefing, its tha amount of loaded chunksL170[14:52:38] <Natesky9> I actually enjoy connecting
everyone through the rail lines
<Natesky9> I actually enjoy connecting
everyone through the rail linesL171[14:53:15] <Thoughtless> yeah, that's our
plan too ^^
<Thoughtless> yeah, that's our
plan too ^^L172[14:53:20] <Natesky9> well, the average player
has ~3 chunkloaders, right?
<Natesky9> well, the average player
has ~3 chunkloaders, right?L173[14:53:33] <Natesky9> at least in my
experience
<Natesky9> at least in my
experienceL174[14:53:59] <Thoughtless> atm, we are thinking of
not using chunkloaders at all
<Thoughtless> atm, we are thinking of
not using chunkloaders at allL175[14:54:41] <Natesky9> well, if you consider that
a single player loads about 8x8 chunks by just being on
<Natesky9> well, if you consider that
a single player loads about 8x8 chunks by just being onL176[14:55:03] <Natesky9> a world anchor only loads a
3x3
<Natesky9> a world anchor only loads a
3x3L177[14:55:59] <Thoughtless> yeah shure, but the 3x3
is additional, depending where the player is
<Thoughtless> yeah shure, but the 3x3
is additional, depending where the player isL178[14:56:34] <Natesky9> Now, the *biggest* factor
of lag is usually in how condensed the cables, pipes, conduits, etc
are
<Natesky9> Now, the *biggest* factor
of lag is usually in how condensed the cables, pipes, conduits, etc
areL179[14:57:17] <Natesky9> so if you have 1 base of 60
machines, you're creating much more lag than 4 bases of 15
machines
<Natesky9> so if you have 1 base of 60
machines, you're creating much more lag than 4 bases of 15
machinesL180[14:57:30] <Thoughtless> yup.. we'll give
xnet a try with that ^^
<Thoughtless> yup.. we'll give
xnet a try with that ^^L181[14:58:31] <Thoughtless> making our own modpack
with mostly uncommen stuff and a transport heme
<Thoughtless> making our own modpack
with mostly uncommen stuff and a transport hemeL182[14:58:43] <Player> ic2 also works well if you
batch craft or juts don't force your way through it by using
it on the side while actually playing the game instead of tryingto
crush the tech tree ?
<Player> ic2 also works well if you
batch craft or juts don't force your way through it by using
it on the side while actually playing the game instead of tryingto
crush the tech tree ?L183[14:58:46] <Thoughtless> making our own modpack
with mostly uncommen stuff and a transport theme
<Thoughtless> making our own modpack
with mostly uncommen stuff and a transport themeL184[14:59:42] <Forecaster> if only there was some
kind of multiblock crushing device to put the tech-tree in
<Forecaster> if only there was some
kind of multiblock crushing device to put the tech-tree inL185[15:00:51] <bball>
go into railcraft for 1.7.10, get a rock crusher, rename a sapling
"Tech Tree" and throw it in
<bball>
go into railcraft for 1.7.10, get a rock crusher, rename a sapling
"Tech Tree" and throw it inL186[15:00:51] <bball>
lol
<bball>
lolL187[15:01:39] <Hanakocz> will it explode?
<Hanakocz> will it explode?L188[15:02:00] <bball>
if you surround it with TNT
<bball>
if you surround it with TNTL189[15:02:11] <Forecaster> as will most things I
expect
<Forecaster> as will most things I
expectL190[15:02:13] <Natesky9> IE Grinder should
work
<Natesky9> IE Grinder should
workL191[15:02:20] <Player> ?
<Player> ?L192[15:02:36] <Player> by that i obviously mean
trying to rush through it or cheat it ?
<Player> by that i obviously mean
trying to rush through it or cheat it ?L193[15:02:53] <Forecaster> impossible, people are
always literal
<Forecaster> impossible, people are
always literalL194[15:03:02] <Forecaster> O
<Forecaster> OL195[15:03:10] <Forecaster> I've learned this
through denial
<Forecaster> I've learned this
through denialL196[15:03:34] <Thoughtless> i you don#'t like
something and you have to use it, you always try to rush through
^^
<Thoughtless> i you don#'t like
something and you have to use it, you always try to rush through
^^L197[15:03:59] <Player> but then you'll quickly
run out of things to do
<Player> but then you'll quickly
run out of things to doL198[15:04:13] <Natesky9> ^I have friends who have
that problem constantly
<Natesky9> ^I have friends who have
that problem constantlyL199[15:04:19] <Natesky9> not very fun friends to
play with
<Natesky9> not very fun friends to
play withL200[15:04:29] <Player> ic2 is quite heavily favoring
opportunities for coming up with automation/smarter solutions
<Player> ic2 is quite heavily favoring
opportunities for coming up with automation/smarter solutionsL201[15:05:05] <Player> i.e. most of the
"limitations" are deliberate
<Player> i.e. most of the
"limitations" are deliberateL202[15:06:10] <Natesky9> I gotta say, biogas is
amazing though
<Natesky9> I gotta say, biogas is
amazing thoughL203[15:06:28] <Hanakocz> favoring getting GT over
IC2 xD
<Hanakocz> favoring getting GT over
IC2 xDL204[15:06:29] <Natesky9> takes alot of setup, but if
done properly, is almost OP
<Natesky9> takes alot of setup, but if
done properly, is almost OPL205[15:06:41] <Natesky9> Um, I think it's
TechReborn
<Natesky9> Um, I think it's
TechRebornL206[15:06:41] <Thoughtless> don't you guys got
a mod thatyou don't like ? :)
<Thoughtless> don't you guys got
a mod thatyou don't like ? :)L207[15:06:51] <Natesky9> I don't like
Tinkers
<Natesky9> I don't like
TinkersL208[15:07:01] <Natesky9> Tinkers is just "too
good"
<Natesky9> Tinkers is just "too
good"L209[15:07:06] <Hanakocz> I don't like RF
copypasta mods in general
<Hanakocz> I don't like RF
copypasta mods in generalL210[15:07:14] <Natesky9> it overshadows literally
any weapon or tool from every other mod
<Natesky9> it overshadows literally
any weapon or tool from every other modL211[15:07:21] <Thoughtless> true
<Thoughtless> trueL212[15:07:51] <Natesky9> Hmm
<Natesky9> HmmL213[15:08:01] <Natesky9> I'm kinda not a fan of
"infinite storage" mods
<Natesky9> I'm kinda not a fan of
"infinite storage" modsL214[15:08:14] <Natesky9> I like the challenge of
logistics puzzles
<Natesky9> I like the challenge of
logistics puzzlesL215[15:08:49] <Thoughtless> so you mean compact
storage systems
<Thoughtless> so you mean compact
storage systemsL216[15:09:05] <Natesky9> plus, it just promotes
laziness in storage, and at that point, it's about getting
thousands of items, and the rest of the game's resources
become "I have none, or I have thousands"
<Natesky9> plus, it just promotes
laziness in storage, and at that point, it's about getting
thousands of items, and the rest of the game's resources
become "I have none, or I have thousands"L217[15:09:17] <Natesky9> it dilutes the inventory
experience
<Natesky9> it dilutes the inventory
experienceL218[15:11:03] <Thoughtless> i understand you
perspective, but i like the possibility to tidy things up
<Thoughtless> i understand you
perspective, but i like the possibility to tidy things upL219[15:12:24] <Thoughtless> in a small space
<Thoughtless> in a small spaceL220[15:14:18] <Natesky9> Well, my gripe is two-fold.
It's partially the limitation to minecraft that setting up
lots of stuff absolutely kills your frames, and also that
there's no benefit to going overboard. There's no real
resource sink, or high demand items
<Natesky9> Well, my gripe is two-fold.
It's partially the limitation to minecraft that setting up
lots of stuff absolutely kills your frames, and also that
there's no benefit to going overboard. There's no real
resource sink, or high demand itemsL221[15:14:27] <Natesky9> at least outside of
"expert mode"
<Natesky9> at least outside of
"expert mode"L222[15:14:27] <Thoughtless> aren't 90% of the
mods the paragon of laziness? :D
<Thoughtless> aren't 90% of the
mods the paragon of laziness? :DL223[15:15:30] <Natesky9> Well, there are convenience
mods, which just add the standard "two ingots from every ore,
faster that, more damage this
<Natesky9> Well, there are convenience
mods, which just add the standard "two ingots from every ore,
faster that, more damage thisL224[15:15:59] <Natesky9> then there are adventure
mods, which promote exploration combat, and sometimes
puzzle-solving
<Natesky9> then there are adventure
mods, which promote exploration combat, and sometimes
puzzle-solvingL225[15:16:41] <Natesky9> then there are the cosmetic
mods, and yes, I'll put Railcraft in here, because even though
trains are useful, they allow for neat looking builds
<Natesky9> then there are the cosmetic
mods, and yes, I'll put Railcraft in here, because even though
trains are useful, they allow for neat looking buildsL226[15:17:44] <Natesky9> then you have the tech
mods, which are in themselves, and adventure, but more of an
advancement adventure, where you need x machine to make y, and
it's a chain of "need this" until you eventually
reach the top
<Natesky9> then you have the tech
mods, which are in themselves, and adventure, but more of an
advancement adventure, where you need x machine to make y, and
it's a chain of "need this" until you eventually
reach the topL227[15:18:17] <Natesky9> Lol, I'm ranting
again
<Natesky9> Lol, I'm ranting
againL228[15:19:32] <Thoughtless> ^^ not the easiest way
for s.o. who's first language isn't english ^^
<Thoughtless> ^^ not the easiest way
for s.o. who's first language isn't english ^^L229[15:21:35] <Thoughtless> but i mean.. more like
by comparsion.. there are way more mods out there which makes your
life more lazy than the rest
<Thoughtless> but i mean.. more like
by comparsion.. there are way more mods out there which makes your
life more lazy than the restL230[15:23:43] <Natesky9> Well, yes. Those are
usually "convenience mods", which add some sort of
mechanic that is supposed to alleviate some difficult or menial
task
<Natesky9> Well, yes. Those are
usually "convenience mods", which add some sort of
mechanic that is supposed to alleviate some difficult or menial
taskL231[15:23:52] <Natesky9> one example is
storage
<Natesky9> one example is
storageL232[15:24:07] <Natesky9> when you get more and more
stuff, you usually have to find some way to store it
<Natesky9> when you get more and more
stuff, you usually have to find some way to store itL233[15:24:34] <Natesky9> but when you have infinite
storage, or at least extremely cheap mass storage
<Natesky9> but when you have infinite
storage, or at least extremely cheap mass storageL234[15:24:52] <Natesky9> that unique challenge gets
nullified
<Natesky9> that unique challenge gets
nullifiedL235[15:25:13] <Natesky9> It's the same as
"never have to eat"
<Natesky9> It's the same as
"never have to eat"L236[15:25:19] <Natesky9> sure, it's
convenient
<Natesky9> sure, it's
convenientL237[15:25:37] <Natesky9> but it completely erases a
challenge of the game
<Natesky9> but it completely erases a
challenge of the gameL238[15:25:51] <Thoughtless> yeah,, it should be
balanced, at least a little bit ^^
<Thoughtless> yeah,, it should be
balanced, at least a little bit ^^L239[15:25:53] <Natesky9> which, in turn, makes most
food mods utterly useless
<Natesky9> which, in turn, makes most
food mods utterly uselessL240[15:25:59] <MipoloArchiletti> Which mods are we
talking here?
<MipoloArchiletti> Which mods are we
talking here?L241[15:26:18] <Natesky9> Take your pick
<Natesky9> Take your pickL242[15:26:21] <Thoughtless> none specific
<Thoughtless> none specificL243[15:26:43] <Natesky9> My all-time "I hate
this mod" absolutely has to be EE3
<Natesky9> My all-time "I hate
this mod" absolutely has to be EE3L244[15:26:57] <Thoughtless> xD
<Thoughtless> xDL245[15:27:23] <Thoughtless> it's funny in
certain modpacks.. but nothing for your everyday modpack
<Thoughtless> it's funny in
certain modpacks.. but nothing for your everyday modpackL246[15:27:49] <Natesky9> though, Dartcraft has to be
a close second, but at least that mod has some progression and some
actual good utility. Broken, but good at least
<Natesky9> though, Dartcraft has to be
a close second, but at least that mod has some progression and some
actual good utility. Broken, but good at leastL247[15:28:14] <MipoloArchiletti> So what's your
opinion on the mass storage in hard drive mods?
<MipoloArchiletti> So what's your
opinion on the mass storage in hard drive mods?L248[15:28:22] <MipoloArchiletti> So what's your
opinion on the "mass storage in hard drives" mods?
<MipoloArchiletti> So what's your
opinion on the "mass storage in hard drives" mods?L249[15:28:39] <Natesky9> I'm not much of a fan.
I used to use them all the time
<Natesky9> I'm not much of a fan.
I used to use them all the timeL250[15:28:47] <Natesky9> but it doesn't quite
fit my playstyle
<Natesky9> but it doesn't quite
fit my playstyleL251[15:29:01] <Natesky9> I'm not entirely
against them though, they have their purpose
<Natesky9> I'm not entirely
against them though, they have their purposeL252[15:29:24] <Natesky9> and at least they offer
alternatives
<Natesky9> and at least they offer
alternativesL253[15:29:43] <Natesky9> but personally, I think the
crafting costs are too cheap for such a powerful system
<Natesky9> but personally, I think the
crafting costs are too cheap for such a powerful systemL254[15:30:22] <MipoloArchiletti> It feels like the
mod would get a lot easier when you figure out the autocrafting for
the components, but that's my biggest hurdle so far
<MipoloArchiletti> It feels like the
mod would get a lot easier when you figure out the autocrafting for
the components, but that's my biggest hurdle so farL255[15:30:43] <MipoloArchiletti> I have a very
difficult time going from manual to automation
<MipoloArchiletti> I have a very
difficult time going from manual to automationL256[15:30:47] <Thoughtless> it's not that
cheap, but after a certain point ( quarrys) you don't care
about mats anymore
<Thoughtless> it's not that
cheap, but after a certain point ( quarrys) you don't care
about mats anymoreL257[15:31:29] <Natesky9> I have despised quarries
from almost every mod ever since their creation
<Natesky9> I have despised quarries
from almost every mod ever since their creationL258[15:32:35] <Natesky9> Yeah, the resouces are
great, but from a balance point of view
<Natesky9> Yeah, the resouces are
great, but from a balance point of viewL259[15:33:16] <Natesky9> they absolutely trash any
semblance of balance
<Natesky9> they absolutely trash any
semblance of balanceL260[15:33:45] <MipoloArchiletti> Loading in my
instance finally, I can show the crumbs of a base I've been
working with
<MipoloArchiletti> Loading in my
instance finally, I can show the crumbs of a base I've been
working withL261[15:34:12] <Thoughtless> thats the chain
reaction... digital storage mods aren't that bad
<Thoughtless> thats the chain
reaction... digital storage mods aren't that badL262[15:34:48] <Natesky9> I actually like AE2 even
more ever since the update that added channels
<Natesky9> I actually like AE2 even
more ever since the update that added channelsL263[15:34:50] <Thoughtless> it's always the
combination
<Thoughtless> it's always the
combinationL264[15:35:13] <Natesky9> yeah, infinite storage +
infinite resources
<Natesky9> yeah, infinite storage +
infinite resourcesL265[15:35:27] <Thoughtless> = bored veryfast
^^
<Thoughtless> = bored veryfast
^^L266[15:35:31] <Natesky9> Now, I'm not saying
that either is bad
<Natesky9> Now, I'm not saying
that either is badL267[15:35:46] <Natesky9> but for most people, once
they have these, they feel like they "beat the
game"
<Natesky9> but for most people, once
they have these, they feel like they "beat the
game"L268[15:35:53] <Natesky9> and then don't play
anymore
<Natesky9> and then don't play
anymoreL269[15:36:04] <Forecaster> I prefer the long game
myself
<Forecaster> I prefer the long game
myselfL270[15:36:05] <Thoughtless> yup, i know exactly that
feeling
<Thoughtless> yup, i know exactly that
feelingL271[15:36:46] <Thoughtless> maybe i should
deactivate the void ore miner ?
<Thoughtless> maybe i should
deactivate the void ore miner ?L272[15:37:16] <Thoughtless> at least we have vein
miner
<Thoughtless> at least we have vein
minerL273[15:37:31] <Natesky9> Now, earlier I mentioned
that I didn't like "most" quarries
<Natesky9> Now, earlier I mentioned
that I didn't like "most" quarriesL274[15:37:48] <Natesky9> there are some that have
their unique drawbacks that make them somewhat balanced
<Natesky9> there are some that have
their unique drawbacks that make them somewhat balancedL275[15:38:14] <Natesky9> MFR's void miner is
one of those that fall under my "ok" category
<Natesky9> MFR's void miner is
one of those that fall under my "ok" categoryL276[15:38:28] <Natesky9> because not only does it
require alot of power
<Natesky9> because not only does it
require alot of powerL277[15:38:37] <Natesky9> but it's also not
intrusive to the environment
<Natesky9> but it's also not
intrusive to the environmentL278[15:39:00] <Natesky9> and also requires at least
midgame machines/resources
<Natesky9> and also requires at least
midgame machines/resourcesL279[15:39:26] <Thoughtless> unfortunately MFR is no
more :/
<Thoughtless> unfortunately MFR is no
more :/L280[15:40:13] <Natesky9> Well, there is always
Immersive engineering
<Natesky9> Well, there is always
Immersive engineeringL281[15:40:36] <MipoloArchiletti> I am such a fanboy
of IE
<MipoloArchiletti> I am such a fanboy
of IEL282[15:40:38] <Thoughtless> the void miner i meant
is the one from environmental tech
<Thoughtless> the void miner i meant
is the one from environmental techL283[15:40:43] <Natesky9> Oh, right
<Natesky9> Oh, rightL284[15:40:51] <Natesky9> I've not played with
that one yet
<Natesky9> I've not played with
that one yetL285[15:40:58] <Thoughtless> and yeah, IE is in the
pack too ^^
<Thoughtless> and yeah, IE is in the
pack too ^^L286[15:41:31] <MipoloArchiletti> It has a very
kinesthetic feel to it because of the way it focused on multiblocks
and conveyors as opposed to blocks and pipes
<MipoloArchiletti> It has a very
kinesthetic feel to it because of the way it focused on multiblocks
and conveyors as opposed to blocks and pipesL287[15:41:52] <MipoloArchiletti> There's an
immediate feedback if you do something or set something up
<MipoloArchiletti> There's an
immediate feedback if you do something or set something upL288[15:48:35] <MipoloArchiletti> Ok so I crashed the
server I play on apparently
<MipoloArchiletti> Ok so I crashed the
server I play on apparentlyL289[15:48:36] <MipoloArchiletti> whoops
<MipoloArchiletti> whoopsL291[15:50:12] <MipoloArchiletti> This is the most up
to date screenshot of my base currently, mod spaghetti in all
<MipoloArchiletti> This is the most up
to date screenshot of my base currently, mod spaghetti in allL292[15:50:36] <MipoloArchiletti> I have a kind of
frame for a factory currently, sloped roof with probably some
chimneys going in
<MipoloArchiletti> I have a kind of
frame for a factory currently, sloped roof with probably some
chimneys going inL293[15:51:41] <Thoughtless> sooo, my inernet
connection is a little bitchy.. i'm off, gn8 gyus, or whatever
your timezone pleases ^^ @Natesky9 ,it was nice talking with you,
bbo/
<Thoughtless> sooo, my inernet
connection is a little bitchy.. i'm off, gn8 gyus, or whatever
your timezone pleases ^^ @Natesky9 ,it was nice talking with you,
bbo/L294[15:51:58] <Natesky9> Seeya bud!
<Natesky9> Seeya bud!L295[16:06:03] <MipoloArchiletti> Are there any plans
to add in-game documentation to Railcraft?
<MipoloArchiletti> Are there any plans
to add in-game documentation to Railcraft?L296[16:07:42] <Hanakocz> isn't wiki
enough?
<Hanakocz> isn't wiki
enough?L297[16:08:38] <MipoloArchiletti> Probably
<MipoloArchiletti> ProbablyL298[16:35:31] <Cream
Tea> The wiki could probably do with some updating though.
<Cream
Tea> The wiki could probably do with some updating though.L299[16:35:46] <Cream
Tea> The software isn't very newb friendly I feel.
<Cream
Tea> The software isn't very newb friendly I feel.L300[17:00:02] ⇦
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L301[17:07:51] <MipoloArchiletti> Yeah, my little
newb self is having difficulty
<MipoloArchiletti> Yeah, my little
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L305[17:50:15] <Natesky9> There's actually I
just thought about that absolutely no mods do
<Natesky9> There's actually I
just thought about that absolutely no mods doL306[17:51:10] <Natesky9> what if there was a
"adventure map" world added by every mod, that was a
brief rundown of everything the mod offered, and was a sort of
"tutorial" for the whole mod
<Natesky9> what if there was a
"adventure map" world added by every mod, that was a
brief rundown of everything the mod offered, and was a sort of
"tutorial" for the whole modL307[17:51:58] <Natesky9> It wouldn't completely
replace the wikis, of course, but it would teach the basics, and
give a few ideas of how things look when all set up
<Natesky9> It wouldn't completely
replace the wikis, of course, but it would teach the basics, and
give a few ideas of how things look when all set upL308[18:05:17] <MipoloArchiletti> That would be
extremely neato
<MipoloArchiletti> That would be
extremely neatoL309[18:05:38] <MipoloArchiletti> Maybe like, a forge
mod that adds a world type that's a flat world grid
<MipoloArchiletti> Maybe like, a forge
mod that adds a world type that's a flat world gridL310[18:05:58] <MipoloArchiletti> And in each grid
space you'd have a mod adding a tutorial map
<MipoloArchiletti> And in each grid
space you'd have a mod adding a tutorial mapL311[18:08:16]
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L314[18:54:11] <Hanakocz> well it would make mods way
bigger in size to ship actual world files
<Hanakocz> well it would make mods way
bigger in size to ship actual world filesL315[18:54:42] <Hanakocz> also it expects that
someone updates it and places there those things and puts on them
notes...
<Hanakocz> also it expects that
someone updates it and places there those things and puts on them
notes...L316[18:54:53] <Hanakocz> It won't be intuitive
at all.
<Hanakocz> It won't be intuitive
at all.L317[19:07:06] <Natesky9> Maybe like a third-party
map maker then?
<Natesky9> Maybe like a third-party
map maker then?L318[19:07:32] <Natesky9> Or a third-party mod that
automatically updates worlds with the new
features/items/blocks
<Natesky9> Or a third-party mod that
automatically updates worlds with the new
features/items/blocksL319[19:08:06] <Natesky9> on that note, a mod might
be the best, so that it can add a pedestal to display mobs and
items?
<Natesky9> on that note, a mod might
be the best, so that it can add a pedestal to display mobs and
items?L320[19:14:51]
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L323[19:15:26] <Hanakocz> well there are already
people that do mod previews and tutorials on youtube
<Hanakocz> well there are already
people that do mod previews and tutorials on youtubeL324[19:16:04] <Hanakocz> they actually also talk
about it so it is more useful than anything. And usually authors do
some, too, if they are brave enough.
<Hanakocz> they actually also talk
about it so it is more useful than anything. And usually authors do
some, too, if they are brave enough.L325[19:27:57] ⇦
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L328[20:23:09] <MipoloArchiletti> I do think a map
may be better than a video for how easy it would be to update
<MipoloArchiletti> I do think a map
may be better than a video for how easy it would be to updateL329[20:23:24] <MipoloArchiletti> I ran into some
issues with some Direwolf20 spotlights because some information on
the mods were since out of date
<MipoloArchiletti> I ran into some
issues with some Direwolf20 spotlights because some information on
the mods were since out of dateL330[22:16:55] ⇦
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