L1[00:01:25] <Lizzy> @Michiyo looking at the developer FAQ on stoat's website, it says they don't plan on doing federation, so guess it's just individual instances?

L2[00:06:07] <Izzy> the tl;dr sketched out is uhhh have an official users and community members subdomain each, have the prosody invite module set up to let people join the community one with a permanent link. use the support for default contacts to add the channels to people's accounts, and stick conversejs in front of it all so there's a nice web UI

L3[00:06:57] <Izzy> prosody's light enough you could do all of this on the cheapest possible VPS

L4[00:07:28] <Izzy> maybe even use the new roles system to only allow vetted users to communicate with other servers

L5[00:07:40] <Izzy> so spam doesn't end up spreading from your server

L7[00:42:36] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Izzy: Is there a complete guide to installing PsychOS? The install guide only goes up to preparing disks.

L8[00:42:44] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> In the repo

L9[00:43:09] <Izzy> not yet, though once you've got a filesystem you need to just need to unpack the cpio or mtar to it

L10[00:43:20] <Izzy> http://oc.shadowkat.net/psychos/pkg/psychos.cpio

L11[00:43:46] <Izzy> if you're using an unmanaged / rtfs disk you'll need to get the kernel-full package also, unpack that, and then use boopu to put it into the boot partition

L12[00:47:30] <stephan48> Izzy: a friend has been doing similar things with XMPP. i could put you in contact if you want

L13[01:02:17] <Corded> > <Li​zzy> @Michiyo looking at the developer FAQ on stoat's website, i…

L14[01:02:18] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, but I'm too lazy to write my own custom stuff :P lol

L15[01:03:04] <Mic​hiyo> (Read I already have too many damn side projects)

L16[01:05:28] <luna​r_sam> i made a custom registration page

L17[01:05:40] <luna​r_sam> requires keys generated from the CLI

L18[01:05:41] <luna​r_sam> lol

L19[01:48:29] <Amanda> Just what I wanted at 2100

L20[01:48:54] <Amanda> one of my nodes is making a jamming noise. It's not got spinning rust, so it's got to be the fan getting stuck

L21[01:49:20] <Amanda> Currently evacuating it so I can turn it off for the night, fix in the meowning

L22[02:01:35] <Amanda> ... well then. thermal_zone0 zone0 is reading... absolute zero.

L23[02:03:10] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_heisenbridge/media/camnet.site/fXCqPuUSWaGBFdaIvFFHmBjS/xkWPoZopE94/Screenshot_20260210_210225.png

L24[02:10:49] <stephan48> fan must be doing overtime

L26[02:11:45] <stephan48> 03:11*

L28[02:12:26] <Amanda> That's the neat part! IT's clicking, like it's jammed

L29[02:12:56] <Amanda> so I'm evacuating it to deal with tomorrow, because I've had a NUC die to thermal failure before

L30[02:13:03] <stephan48> i just massaged traefik in this cluster to hostPath in my custom root cacert... so i can do oidc against keycloak. and then configured keycloak to oidc against... my lemonldap

L31[02:13:06] <stephan48> yea

L32[02:13:37] <stephan48> (i can terraform keycloak... and vault and automagic the secrets, i can't do that in LLNG)

L33[02:14:10] <stephan48> i only wanted to play with tekton pipelines and its dashboard? like 2 weeks ago... and then got sidequested into that mess... but the dashboard is meh... :(

L34[02:14:21] <Amanda> So fun fact.

L35[02:14:28] <Amanda> I accidentally bricked my k3s cluster

L37[02:14:40] <Amanda> so I decided I don't really need k3s for my homelab

L38[02:14:51] <Amanda> so I've just been running stuff using incus

L39[02:15:21] <stephan48> nobody needs k8s... but where would one take the torture and pain from if not from k8s

L40[02:16:18] <stephan48> i have 3 single node incus machines in this mess of a amalgamed network(i essentially moved the server and shit from the old rental over here.... and then now have two routers(both in VMs on the same host!) two homeassistants and other fun), i like it

L41[02:16:28] <Amanda> incus supports what they call "app containers" which is basically just OCI containers they extract, then massage lightly, and then just run as plain-ol lxc containers

L42[02:16:50] <Amanda> so I'm doing that for some stuff instead

L43[02:16:59] <stephan48> yea probably more sensible

L44[02:17:11] <stephan48> this IaC repo already has... way to many moving parts again :/

L45[02:17:27] <stephan48> i still have not moved a single app into it

L46[02:18:01] <stephan48> i would be happy to pick your brain for info on that at some point

L47[02:18:07] <Amanda> I've got two "IaC" repos... one's basically just a bunch of configs modeled using cuelang.org the other is ansible which calls some specific scripts to have cue format the data as json

L48[02:18:34] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Speaking of k8s...

L49[02:18:34] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> https://modrinth.com/mod/clustercomputers

L50[02:18:50] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> k8s powered computers in MC

L51[02:18:52] <stephan48> but i need to go to bed... like 2hours ago. and the turned off heating(.... we are still messing with that monster and it does nightly shutoff) is getting coldish

L52[02:18:57] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Because why the hell not?

L53[02:19:17] <stephan48> i hate you

L54[02:19:44] <Amanda> but sure, poke me whenever, stephan48, if I'm around I'll answer (Been playing DSP all day again... )

L55[02:19:59] <stephan48> DSP? dison sphere?

L56[02:20:05] <Amanda> yup

L57[02:20:11] <stephan48> so very much ;) how does it expose redstone to simulated computers?

L58[02:21:57] <stephan48> i see how.

L59[02:22:22] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> I'd like to look at it, but my PC has a 6-core i5 CPU.

L60[02:22:29] <Amanda> RPC?

L61[02:23:41] <Amanda> Ugh. I've gotta decide how to archive the bai-hu-[abc] containers. They're fucking huge, and don't work anymore since my pi running the consul leader combusted

L62[02:24:17] <Amanda> IT's been a half hour just transfering the one container

L63[02:24:27] <Amanda> ( bai-hu-[abc] was my patroni cluster )

L64[02:24:47] <Amanda> That's something else I decided was overkill for my usecase. Espically because failover was fraught with trouble

L65[02:25:47] <Amanda> Either matrix is caching the IP, or it's trying to lookup the ip too quickly after a failover, so it'd just get super angry because it's trying to write to a secondary, and just logging endless errors, while looking like everything is fine, just quiet

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L67[02:34:01] <Amanda> fuck it. I'm just shutting down the host, I'm too eepy for this shit

L69[02:37:25] <Amanda> night girls

L71[04:44:44] <Forec​aster> %tonk

L72[04:44:44] <MichiBot> Yippee! Forec​aster! You beat Flamei​ngsoul's previous record of 3 hours, 17 minutes and 13 seconds (By 3 hours, 3 minutes and 17 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L73[04:44:45] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 6 hours, 20 minutes and 31 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.0122 (0.00305 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.

L74[04:46:02] <Spider​EveryOS> Ag'

L75[04:46:16] <Spider​EveryOS> Just before I checked Discord

L76[04:46:19] <Spider​EveryOS> %sip

L77[04:46:19] <MichiBot> You drink a concentrated spice potion (New!). SpiderEveryOS looks confused as nothing happens.

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L80[11:05:35] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonkout

L81[11:05:35] <MichiBot> Wah! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 6 hours, 20 minutes and 31 seconds (By 20 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L82[11:05:36] <MichiBot> Spider​EveryOS has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.46658. Position #2 Need 0.00468 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L85[12:10:26] <MichiBot> Waiter!! Waiter!! Theres a poem about butts, called ASS-ASS-ians creed in my soup!

L86[12:31:29] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster with mutable yellow potion

L87[12:31:29] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable yellow potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a bombastium iron girl until they have a serif sky potion.

L89[12:37:02] <Forec​aster> Is bombastium a good power armour material...

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L91[12:57:45] <Amanda> %choose be productive or build more of the sphere

L92[12:57:45] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Invalid arguments. %choose string

L93[12:57:55] <Amanda> %choose be productive or build more sphere

L94[12:57:55] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A nearby lamp replies "Not build more sphere!".

L95[12:58:09] <Amanda> but... but...

L97[13:09:37] <Forec​aster> It's fine as long as they only approximate spheres

L98[13:23:25] <Flamei​ngsoul> %tonk

L99[13:23:25] <MichiBot> Woah! Flamei​ngsoul! You beat Spider​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 17 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L100[13:23:26] <MichiBot> Flameingsoul's new record is 2 hours, 17 minutes and 50 seconds! Flameingsoul also gained 0.0023 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.16323 more points to pass Va​ur!

L101[13:23:29] <Flamei​ngsoul> %chug

L102[13:23:29] <MichiBot> You drink a hexagonal water potion (New!). A bard starts playing a lute behind Flameingsoul. They don't stop.

L103[13:23:46] <Flamei​ngsoul> can i request songs?

L104[13:24:14] <Flamei​ngsoul> if so i shall compose a song of nothing but rests, slowly growing in speed

L105[13:30:28] <luna​r_sam> man

L106[13:30:43] <luna​r_sam> all these "discord alternatives" really are just reinventing XMPP and matrix

L107[13:42:38] <Forec​aster> This is the way

L108[14:28:04] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster

L109[14:28:05] <MichiBot> You fling a rising tomato potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. The ghost of a plant haunts @Forecaster until they have some bacon.

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L112[15:17:10] <Va​ur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXWYo58yiz4

L113[15:22:18] <Forec​aster> Literal space trucks...

L114[16:37:58] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonk

L115[16:37:58] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Flamei​ngsoul's previous record of 2 hours, 17 minutes and 50 seconds (By 56 minutes and 42 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L116[16:37:59] <MichiBot> SpiderEveryOS's new record is 3 hours, 14 minutes and 33 seconds! SpiderEveryOS also gained 0.00285 (0.00095 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.00183 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L117[17:29:50] <Va​ur> deplying a new optiplex 3070 micro, enjoying the use of my jetkvm

L118[20:13:47] <Amanda> %remindme 20m check if updatecli's run

L119[20:13:47] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check if updatecli's run" in 20m at 02/11/2026 08:33:47 PM

L120[20:15:38] <Va​ur> %tonk

L121[20:15:38] <MichiBot> Yow! Va​ur! You beat Spider​EveryOS's previous record of 3 hours, 14 minutes and 33 seconds (By 23 minutes and 6 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L122[20:15:39] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 3 hours, 37 minutes and 39 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00156 (0.00039 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.07151 more points to pass Spider​EveryOS!

L123[20:33:47] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check if updatecli's run

L124[20:34:05] <Amanda> yup!

L125[20:34:11] <Amanda> %remindme 30m check if ansible CI's happy

L126[20:34:11] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check if ansible CI's happy" in 30m at 02/11/2026 09:04:11 PM

L127[20:50:56] <Izzy> lunar_sam: this time with no realistic ongoing support once the crisis passes

L128[21:04:12] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check if ansible CI's happy

L129[21:09:18] <Amanda> ho-ray!

L130[21:15:43] <Amanda> %choose switch base distro?

L131[21:15:43] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Hm. I can't choose. Ask me again in a couple of minutes.

L132[21:52:53] <Ar​iri> Izzy; did i tell u what the vps problem was after all

L133[21:53:16] <Ar​iri> also question, do u use shells on multiple device? like diff laptops and stuff?

L134[21:54:10] <Izzy> you didn't

L135[21:54:15] <Izzy> and I don't understand the question

L136[21:55:53] <Ar​iri> like uh u use multiple linux devices daily, like not just ur phone and one computer; u use maybe a desktop sometimes in the day and a laptop other days

L137[21:56:15] <Izzy> oh I mean I have my laptop

L138[21:56:23] <Izzy> it doesn't get a huge amount of use but it's there

L139[21:56:36] <Izzy> and when I go to my mum's there's the spare machine there

L140[21:56:47] <Ar​iri> basically what happened was my upgrade went bad a bit somehow, prob didn't happen properly, which would've been fine with my fix but the host had some weird issue caused by booting the rescue iso which caused it to switch from bios to uefi in a way i couldn't see

L141[21:56:48] <Izzy> they're all set up to be basically identical though

L142[21:56:58] <Ar​iri> they saw my issue and messaged me and got it fixed now

L143[21:57:11] <Ar​iri> so the original grub thing would've worked were it not for that silly error

L144[21:58:00] <Ar​iri> how do you set them up to be identical? i want a good way to keep a consistent like bash alias or even like some packages and stuff instead of having to do everything twice whenever i add or change stuff on one device or the other

L145[21:58:28] <Ar​iri> i have some program that does it with git but i've not really touched it since setting it up

L146[21:58:28] <Ar​iri> something something dotfiles and symlinks

L147[21:58:45] <Ar​iri> esp for things like ssh aliases or key files or things like that

L148[22:03:42] <Izzy> I manage them with ansible and they auth against LDAP

L149[22:03:51] <Izzy> (SSH pubkeys are stored in LDAP also)

L150[22:11:54] <Ar​iri> ah damn i was hoping u had some more low-tech way of doing it

L151[22:12:10] <Ar​iri> guess i'll get clever with something else and cronjob it

L152[22:12:13] <Izzy> nah we doing full enterprise over here

L153[22:12:20] <Ar​iri> cronjob is a weird verb

L154[22:12:35] <Ar​iri> izzy the professional

L155[22:12:39] <Ar​iri> stonks

L156[22:12:43] <Izzy> real talk though if your "identical" is flexible enough to include "standard software and basic configs on every machine" an ansible playbook's a good approach

L157[22:14:37] <Izzy> besides setting up LDAP auth I've got mine installing the standard software I want on top of mint, pushing out the firefox profile, force enabling amdgpu for older cards, getting proton-GE on machines that run games,