L1[00:44:56] <Ocawes​ome101> Amanda: iirc that's x86 page size in general

L2[01:25:31] <immibis> @Brisingr Aerowing if you're using a language that tracks this sort of thing, you can just look at a few random objects in your heap dump, and that's what's leaking

L3[01:26:11] <immibis> pages should be counted as 4kB even though sometimes actual pages can be bigger and count as several

L4[01:38:40] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonkout

L5[01:38:40] <MichiBot> Boom! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 5 hours, 44 minutes and 43 seconds (By 59 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L6[01:38:41] <MichiBot> Spider​EveryOS has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.09939. Position #2 => #1 (Overtook Forecaster)

L7[02:17:18] <Amanda> %p

L8[02:17:19] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ama​nda 0.28s

L9[02:17:43] <Amanda> It's a post-christmas miracle

L10[03:21:01] <Forec​aster> %tonk

L11[03:21:01] <MichiBot> Swell! Forec​aster! You beat Spider​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 42 minutes and 20 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L12[03:21:02] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 42 minutes and 20 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00171 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.0016 more points to pass Spider​EveryOS!

L13[03:23:46] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> immibis: Most memory leaks I've run into were in Minecraft mods

L14[03:24:04] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> I don't code much anymore

L15[03:24:30] <immibis> Great! You can take a heap dump and sort the object types by size. The leaking type should be near the top of the list. If you leave it running long enough, the very top.

L16[03:26:28] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> I did use VisualVM once to find that a mod I can't remember the name of had a MAX_INT sized array of randomly sized arrays of longs.

L17[03:29:40] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Also most of the issues were back in the 1.12.2 days.

L18[03:29:56] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> I haven't had a memory leak in ages.

L19[03:52:27] <Forec​aster> That you know of!

L20[05:58:24] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonk

L21[05:58:24] <MichiBot> Yippee! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 1 hour, 42 minutes and 20 seconds (By 55 minutes and 1 second)! I hope you're happy!

L22[05:58:25] <MichiBot> SpiderEveryOS's new record is 2 hours, 37 minutes and 22 seconds! SpiderEveryOS also gained 0.00184 (0.00092 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.

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L25[09:15:53] <Forec​aster> %tonk

L26[09:15:53] <MichiBot> Yay! Forec​aster! You beat Spider​EveryOS's previous record of 2 hours, 37 minutes and 22 seconds (By 40 minutes and 6 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L27[09:15:54] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 3 hours, 17 minutes and 29 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00201 (0.00067 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.00143 more points to pass Spider​EveryOS!

L29[12:01:25] <Amanda> %p

L30[12:01:27] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ama​nda 0.3s

L32[12:01:41] <MichiBot> Waiter!! Waiter!! Theres Michiyos Minecraft save scanner to detect Eldritch memetics in my soup!

L33[12:01:55] <Amanda> Hrn, that's no good

L34[12:02:14] <Amanda> I hope dream-Michiyo made that waterproof

L35[12:04:23] <Forec​aster> Or at least soup-proof

L36[12:06:32] <Amanda> Fore! So good to see you, let me just %splash @Forecaster with mutable silver potion

L37[12:06:33] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable silver potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a pig boy until they have an apple.

L38[12:17:34] <Va​ur> %chug

L39[12:17:34] <MichiBot> You drink a hot sky potion (New!). The potion was inside Vaur all along.

L40[12:27:32] <Forec​aster> D:

L41[12:27:47] <Forec​aster> Good thing apples are easy to come by

L43[12:56:31] <Va​ur> %tonkout

L44[12:56:31] <MichiBot> Yippee! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 3 hours, 17 minutes and 29 seconds (By 23 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L45[12:56:32] <MichiBot> Va​ur has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.07948. Position #3 Need 0.02032 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L46[13:02:46] <Va​ur> %chug

L47[13:02:46] <MichiBot> You drink a 2-dimensional strawberry potion (New!). Vaur grows slightly until they find a portable plate.

L48[13:46:35] <Forec​aster> Why would I want a gold bar > - >

L49[13:47:17] <Amanda> You trade for them don't you?

L50[13:47:45] <Amanda> I thought that was the whole Thing with pigbois

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L53[13:53:27] <Forec​aster> I only accept non-fungible tokens

L54[13:53:30] <Forec​aster> or pogs

L55[13:54:05] <Amanda> %remindme 45m check ansible ci

L56[13:54:05] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check ansible ci" in 45m at 01/10/2026 02:39:05 PM

L57[13:55:58] <Va​ur> %chug

L58[13:55:58] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly gold potion (New!). A warp zone opens up next to Vaur. (Use %warp to jump in)

L59[13:56:05] <Va​ur> %warp

L60[13:56:05] <MichiBot> You end up in a dimension populated by fish unicorn boys.

L61[13:57:25] <Amanda> %choose cubes time or continue bashing head against homelab

L62[13:57:25] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I've learned anything in life it's that you always pick "cubes time"

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L66[14:39:06] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check ansible ci

L67[14:39:21] <Amanda> yeah, see, that's the first process

L68[14:39:39] <Amanda> %remindme 30m ansible ci re-run should be done

L69[14:39:40] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "ansible ci re-run should be done" in 30m at 01/10/2026 03:09:39 PM

L70[15:01:57] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster

L71[15:01:57] <MichiBot> You fling a soft pearlpeas potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. A swinging blade comes flying towards @Forecaster from nowhere! They fail to evade it with a 1 vs DC 16 and takes 1d​8 => 3 damage.

L72[15:02:09] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Oof. Nat 1

L73[15:02:30] <Va​ur> %tonk

L74[15:02:30] <MichiBot> Zoinks! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 5 minutes and 58 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L75[15:02:31] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 2 hours, 5 minutes and 58 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.0021)

L76[15:02:36] <Va​ur> %chug

L77[15:02:36] <MichiBot> You drink a forbidden iron potion (New!). Vaur: Nothing seemed to happen...

L78[15:09:40] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: ansible ci re-run should be done

L79[17:19:15] <Forec​aster> %tonk

L80[17:19:15] <MichiBot> Awesome! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 2 hours, 5 minutes and 58 seconds (By 10 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L81[17:19:16] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 16 minutes and 45 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00054 (0.00018 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.00089 more points to pass Spider​EveryOS!

L84[19:04:34] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster

L85[19:04:34] <MichiBot> You fling a robust aether potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster smells something burning.

L86[19:31:31] <Forec​aster> That's probably just my hot new track!

L87[19:31:40] <Forec​aster> wait... I don't make music...

L88[19:46:37] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonkout

L89[19:46:38] <MichiBot> Crud! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 2 hours, 16 minutes and 45 seconds (By 10 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L90[19:46:39] <MichiBot> Spider​EveryOS has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.001 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.10473. Position #1

L94[23:05:33] <Va​ur> %tonk

L95[23:05:33] <MichiBot> Wow! Va​ur! You beat Spider​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 18 minutes and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L96[23:05:34] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 3 hours, 18 minutes and 55 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00332 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.01754 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L97[23:12:18] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster with mutable orange potion

L98[23:12:19] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable orange potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a yellow water boy until they exit the room.

L99[23:12:37] <Amanda> Ewwwww yellow water

L100[23:24:45] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime or look into what is making hera angy

L101[23:24:46] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: The proof is in the pudding. Definitely "look into what is making hera angy". Hrm, look into what is making hera angy could use some more salt.

L102[23:25:01] <Amanda> Hrm

L103[23:26:47] <Amanda> Gee, thanks systemd: hera-webdav.service: Job hera-webdav.service/start failed with result 'dependency'.

L104[23:26:54] <Amanda> What dependency?

L105[23:29:28] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> The dependent one, of course. /s

L106[23:29:42] <Va​ur> aint systemd great ? 😄

L107[23:29:44] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> That is one of the most useless error messages I've seen

L108[23:30:08] <Va​ur> I can't believe there is people that don't want to have systemd in their systems, we should give systemd to everyone !

L109[23:34:51] <Amanda> Protip! ceph works better when the monitors you're telling the client to connect to actually still exist!

L110[23:35:03] <Amanda> %remindme 1h check ci

L111[23:35:03] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check ci" in 1h at 01/11/2026 12:35:03 AM

L112[23:35:25] <Amanda> Now, laptopnaptime

L113[23:50:40] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Things do tend to work better when configured correctly.

L114[23:53:24] <Amanda> I'll have to look into why that file isn't being auto-updated, because I thought that cephadm was managing it

L115[23:59:24] <Amanda> %remindme 12h look into why cephadm isn't updating /etc/ceph/ on hera

L116[23:59:25] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "look into why cephadm isn't updating /etc/ceph/ on hera" in 12h at 01/11/2026 11:59:24 AM