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L1[00:01:36] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/ATffo3GUBFHJrSeEBHyUWt1JvjQOt47nGJgUyqhL/cac6ab22-a932-40a7-9701-877752a1b291.png
L2[00:01:36] <lunar_sam> the bugs are back
L3[00:39:47] * Amanda tucks in between nadja's ears as a smol fairy-sized Amanda, gets ready for zzzmews hooefully
L4[00:41:06] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/qFRzLMd9oJdY0mWFGtdKr69ObguUR8nZHWjACqeG/cc6faf41-1e7f-4fd6-8f34-c37fb8ab3e46.png
L5[00:41:13] <lunar_sam> it's (mostly) done
L6[00:41:26] <lunar_sam> deletion currently seems to be bugged so that's not great but
L7[00:41:28] <lunar_sam> Tomorrow
L8[00:48:08] <lunar_sam> but uh, yeah, probably gonna make all those proposed improvements to the filesystem because damn this shit kinda sucks
L9[00:48:09] <lunar_sam> oh well
L10[00:52:15] <Amanda> Oh good
L11[00:52:24] <Amanda> Authentik is kill
L12[00:53:00] <Amanda> %remindme 11h fix authentik
L13[00:53:00] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "fix authentik" in 11h at 07/25/2024 11:53:00 AM
L14[00:57:39] <Va​ur> %tonk
L15[00:57:40] <MichiBot> Boo-yah! Va​ur! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 6 hours, 25 minutes and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L16[00:57:41] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 6 hours, 25 minutes and 21 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00642 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L17[01:26:18] <lunar_sam> Izzy: i just had a great idea for OC2 stuff
L18[01:26:30] <lunar_sam> we VELX maxxing it up in here
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L26[05:14:33] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L27[05:14:34] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forecaster, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 6 hours, 25 minutes and 21 seconds this time. 4 hours, 16 minutes and 53 seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 8 minutes and 28 seconds!
L28[06:22:25] <nadja> lunar_sam: Should I be scared? ^^'
L29[06:26:08] <nadja> Izzy: No I mean C# ones, I've been XML modding the game since … uh b18? Fabrics and stuff.
L30[06:26:15] <Va​ur> %sip
L31[06:26:16] <MichiBot> You drink a robust ocean potion (New!). Vaur grows a tail from a fish for 34 minutes.
L32[06:41:37] <Izzy> oh okay. I spend more time fighting the build system than dealing with C# tbh
L33[07:00:20] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> %tonk
L34[07:00:20] <Spider ​EveryOS> Is this intentionally moving the tonk time again??
L35[07:01:28] <Forec​aster> uh... yes, definitely....
L36[07:10:16] <Va​ur> %sip
L37[07:10:17] <MichiBot> You drink a dangerous unobtanium potion (New!). Vaur feels chill.
L38[07:10:35] <Corded> > <Spider ​EveryOS> Is this intentionally moving the tonk time again??
L39[07:10:35] <Va​ur> sounds like he missed my tonk 😄
L40[07:11:17] <Forec​aster> I would never
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L42[07:37:37] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L43[07:38:19] <Va​ur> %sip
L44[07:38:21] <MichiBot> You drink a sweet automato potion (New!). There's an acidic tinge to the potion... A label on the bottle reads "Who needs internal organs anyway?". Vaur takes 3d​6 => [3,5,2] acid damage.
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L46[08:17:34] <Amanda> I guess I'm just awake now
L47[08:17:39] <Va​ur> %sip
L48[08:17:40] <MichiBot> You drink a molten gold potion (New!). Vaur watches helplessly as 0.024 tonk points take flight into the horizon. (Rem. uses: 2)
L49[08:17:45] <Forec​aster> or are you
L50[08:17:53] <Forec​aster> %splash Vaur molten gold
L51[08:17:53] <MichiBot> You fling a molten gold potion that splashes onto Vaur. Vaur watches helplessly as 0.042 tonk points take flight into the horizon. (Rem. uses: 1)
L52[08:18:13] <Va​ur> %splash Forecaster molten gold
L53[08:18:13] <MichiBot> You fling a molten gold potion that splashes onto Forecaster. Forecaster watches helplessly as 0.007 tonk points take flight into the horizon. (Rem. uses: 0)
L54[08:19:02] <Forec​aster> hm, I should make it so you can't suffer the effect of the same potion twice like this
L55[08:19:40] <nadja> Izzy: I'm going the easy way and just set up Rider. C# without an spezialised IDE is not worth it.
L56[08:21:57] <Amanda> Bit early for it, but: %splash @Forecaster with mutable gold potion
L57[08:21:57] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable gold potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a goat boy for 4 hours.
L58[08:22:07] <Forec​aster> D:
L59[08:59:41] <ff​_66> f**ck my browser crashed again while playing skribbl.io
L60[08:59:54] <ff​_66> i hate firefox
L61[09:00:14] <ff​_66> opera is way more stable
L62[09:00:25] <Forec​aster> then why are you using firefox...
L63[09:21:16] <Amanda> Fun fact, opera is probably on Linux too
L64[09:34:27] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> Fun fact, opera is probably on Linux too
L65[09:34:28] <ff​_66> i'm currenly using this un ubuntu so...
L66[09:34:41] <ff​_66> * on ubuntu so...
L67[09:40:03] <Corded> > <ff​_66> i hate firefox
L68[09:40:03] <Watc​hful> yeah firefox doesnt sell your data though
L69[09:43:46] <Amanda> ... Ubuntu is Linux
L70[09:44:17] <Amanda> So opera probably has a package for Ubuntu
L71[09:44:58] <Amanda> @Watchful nah, now they just provide an api for advertisers to do it for them
L72[09:47:36] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> ... Ubuntu is Linux
L73[09:47:37] <ff​_66> i said i'm using opera on ubuntu
L74[09:47:55] <ff​_66> so yes there is a deb for opera
L75[09:49:14] <Amanda> Excuse me for not divining what "this" was, I parsed it as firefox
L76[09:50:24] <ff​_66> simple symbol resolution error
L77[09:50:58] <Amanda> What the hell did I do that makes YouTube think I really care about Johnathan blow
L78[09:51:25] <Amanda> I don't even know who he is
L79[09:51:26] <Forec​aster> sometimes youtube just recommends random videos
L80[09:51:49] <Forec​aster> seemingly random at least
L81[09:58:07] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> @Watchful nah, now they just provide an api for advertisers…
L82[09:58:08] <Watc​hful> at least they let you turn it off
L83[09:58:15] <Watc​hful> but thats really new
L84[09:58:55] <Watc​hful> firefox is at least the most transparent about it
L85[09:58:58] <Amanda> Yes but it's on by default
L86[10:04:21] <Amanda> And it was barely mentioned in the release notes
L87[10:04:56] <Watc​hful> yeag
L88[10:05:52] <Amanda> Anyways, time to continue staring at this DHL tracking page for the next 14h before zzzmews again
L89[10:06:37] <Watc​hful> oh also firefox is open source
L90[10:06:48] <Watc​hful> which is already better than 90% of other browsers
L91[10:07:15] <Watc​hful> also because firefox is different a lot of malware just doesnt bother with trying to get passwords and cookies and whatnot from firefox
L92[10:09:06] <Amanda> Huh. Amazon combined two of my orders
L93[10:09:39] <Amanda> Interesting
L94[10:10:39] <Amanda> And it seems the shipper of the case I ordered still hasn't told Amazon that they delivered it yesterday
L95[10:36:37] <lunar_sam> browsers are a scam
L96[10:45:20] <lunar_sam> nadja: maybe, possibly
L97[10:46:53] <lunar_sam> i want to make something between OFW and UEFI but with lua (i will probably never actually make it)
L98[10:47:52] <Amanda> With blackjack, and scritchies?
L99[11:16:50] <Amanda> Don't you hate you cast So you Say, and it causes the target to explode their head before you can analyze the spell, making you have to go back in time?
L100[11:17:24] <Amanda> ( The spell makes anything someone says around them, no matter how hyperbolic, come true if it'd be dangerous to them )
L101[11:18:17] <Amanda> So you have to keep time looping until the person says something like "Man, feels like my shoulders are on fire from this sun!", as it'd not be immediately fatal, just causing two mini-suns to slowly spawn above their shoulders
L102[11:19:55] <Amanda> The theme of last night's dreams seems to have been timeloops
L103[11:20:05] <Amanda> I blame @Inari, as out-of-fashion as that is
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L106[11:47:13] <Amanda> Also
L107[11:47:24] <Forec​aster> oslA
L108[11:48:12] <Amanda> stephanj: if you're using k3s you might want to make sure you're on 1.30.2+k3s2 because k3s1 was having trouble with iptables after a reboot, as in, crash looping
L109[11:48:43] <Amanda> It doesn't seem to manifest from a service restart after an update, only after a reboot with fresh iptables
L110[11:49:08] <Amanda> Unless you're not using the builtin flannel
L111[11:49:47] <Amanda> That's what was wrong with my k3s cluster yesterday
L112[11:51:26] <Amanda> Shipment has left hongkong
L113[11:51:46] <Forec​aster> or did hongkong leave the shipment
L114[11:52:24] <Amanda> Looking like I'm not getting the tablet today after all, I guess the "estimated arrival date" is for the next leg after all
L115[11:53:01] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: fix authentik
L116[12:02:13] <Forec​aster> %choose today; kebab or meatballs
L117[12:02:13] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: kebab today
L118[12:02:20] <Forec​aster> hm
L119[12:04:04] <Forec​aster> no, maybe tomorrow
L120[12:09:56] <Amanda> there we go
L121[12:18:01] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L122[12:18:01] <MichiBot> Awesome! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 6 hours, 25 minutes and 21 seconds (By 38 minutes and 6 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L123[12:18:02] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.012 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.54476092, Position #3 => #2 (Overtook Forecaster) Need 0.01185816 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L124[12:18:14] <Va​ur> %sip
L125[12:18:14] <MichiBot> You drink a smooth crimson potion (New!). Vaur turns into a tiberium turtle pig until someone looks at them.
L126[12:48:18] <Amanda> oh hey, the tablet was released by customs
L127[12:49:56] <Forec​aster> they let it escape?!
L128[12:55:43] * Amanda eyes Forecaster with suspicion
L129[13:12:37] <Forec​aster> I've done nothing (probably)
L130[13:20:56] <Amanda> I like when instructions are like "It's as easy as 1, 2, 3!" when step1 is "take it out of the packaging" step2 is "do this corner" and step3 is basically "Draw the rest of the fucking owl"
L131[13:21:25] <Forec​aster> but that is easy, as long as you need a drawing of an owl
L132[13:45:12] <Amanda> Oh hey, it's time for another %splash @Forecaster with mutable cyan potion
L133[13:45:13] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable cyan potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into an aether dog until they use "Swing" in a sentence.
L134[13:45:30] <Va​ur> %sip
L135[13:45:30] <MichiBot> You drink a woolly mithril potion (New!). It tastes salty.
L136[13:45:49] <Forec​aster> I do enjoy listening to electro swing.
L137[13:55:39] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster with mutable potion
L138[13:55:39] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable apple potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into an orange dryad boy for 4 moons.
L139[14:02:45] <Va​ur> %sip
L140[14:02:46] <MichiBot> You drink a ripe iron potion (New!). Vaur: Nothing seemed to happen...
L141[14:07:29] <stephanj> Amanda: thanks, i am mostly using talos and tbh i am too burned out for k8s in general atm
L142[14:08:39] <stephanj> aka i am failing to find even the most basic stuff to put on it
L143[14:16:32] <Amanda> fair
L144[14:16:48] <Amanda> Just thought I'd give a warning incase you ran into the same problem, as someone I knew used k8s stuff
L145[14:19:22] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk
L146[14:19:23] <MichiBot> Geez! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 1 minute and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L147[14:19:24] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 2 hours, 1 minute and 21 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.00202 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L148[14:19:43] <Spider ​EveryOS> Can somebody explain how I teleported to first?
L149[14:20:39] <Amanda> "What does new high score mean?"
L150[14:20:45] * Amanda flees
L151[14:21:00] <Amanda> hrm
L152[14:29:11] <Forec​aster> @Spider EveryOS potion
L153[14:29:37] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> @Spider EveryOS potion
L154[14:29:37] <Spider ​EveryOS> Those potions have surprising effects
L155[14:32:28] <Forec​aster> I can only imagine
L156[14:37:48] <Forec​aster> actually I can't, I didn't put enough points into intelligence
L157[14:41:51] <Forec​aster> %choose it's food time now right?
L158[14:41:52] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: Oh yes, definitely!
L159[14:41:55] <Forec​aster> good
L160[14:50:23] <Spider ​EveryOS> How terrible it would be if Michi's random generator always gave the opposite response of what was wanted
L161[14:50:57] <Amanda> Sometimes you don't know what you really want until the RNG tells you and you can judge your knee-jerk reaction to ir
L162[14:53:10] <Forec​aster> she could very well have told me it was not food time
L163[15:01:31] <Corded> > <Spider ​EveryOS> Can somebody explain how I teleported to first?
L164[15:01:32] <Va​ur> I lost point to a potion and forecaster doubled down on me
L165[15:01:43] <Va​ur> I retaliated in kind
L166[15:04:38] <Forec​aster> unluckily though the one I got wasn't nearly as effective as either of yours 😄
L167[15:06:06] <Amanda> don't those potions slowly lose their effectiveness as their uses dwindle? Or is that just a confirmation bias
L168[15:06:18] <Forec​aster> they don't
L169[15:06:53] <Elfi> %splash Vaur
L170[15:06:53] <MichiBot> You fling a spooned silver potion (New!) that splashes onto Vaur. Vaur feels the need to use "%fling".
L171[15:07:10] * Amanda meows good meowning to Elfi, offers her some cofe
L172[15:07:18] * Elfi sip cofe
L173[15:07:23] * Elfi climbs in to soak
L174[15:07:37] <Elfi> eepy...
L175[15:07:43] * Amanda makes herself smol, climbs onto Elfi to protecc while she soaks
L176[15:07:58] <Amanda> I've been up since 0400
L177[15:08:04] <Amanda> I am the queen of eepy
L178[15:12:12] <Va​ur> %fling
L179[15:12:12] <MichiBot> Va​ur: Invalid arguments. %fling Target:string [Item:string]
L180[15:12:23] <Va​ur> %fling Forecaster
L181[15:12:23] <MichiBot> Va​ur is flinging something at Forec​aster! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L182[15:12:24] <MichiBot> Vaur flings a Rocket-Parsnip Grandma in a random direction. It hits Forecaster on a small but very important bone. They take 1d4 => 2 damage!
L183[15:12:25] * MichiBot The Rocket-Parsnip Grandma phases out of the dimension.
L184[15:12:40] <Va​ur> that's ... not 5 minutes Michibot 😄
L185[15:12:50] <Amanda> She gets excited sometimes
L186[15:40:09] <Spider ​EveryOS> Where can I find how much damage I've taken?
L187[15:40:40] <Amanda> Nowhere at the moment, it's just flavour text
L188[15:46:26] <Va​ur> %sip
L189[15:46:26] <MichiBot> You drink a robust röd potion (New!). Vaur gains one research point. Vaur now has 1 point. (Rem. uses: 0)
L190[15:46:35] <Forec​aster> aw
L191[15:52:22] <Amanda> %choose factory or continue refreshing tracking page every 30 seconds
L192[15:52:22] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: factory'os, for a complete breakfast!
L193[15:53:10] <Amanda> It's lunch-ish time, but I guess factory'os for lunch is fine
L194[16:18:01] <Amanda> ... Well then
L195[16:18:12] <Amanda> I get the impression I'm going to be bouncing off Satisfactory Plus shortly
L196[16:18:28] <Amanda> Oil requires like 5 layers of processing to get plastic/rubber
L197[16:18:43] <Amanda> Each layer generating 1-2 byproducts
L198[16:19:09] <Forec​aster> but then you've got food sorted! Assuming the by-products are edible
L199[16:19:19] <Amanda> nope
L200[16:19:39] <Forec​aster> Outrage!
L201[16:21:16] <Amanda> and it requires heavy modular frames, which I can not automate yet
L202[16:26:34] <Va​ur> %sip
L203[16:26:34] <MichiBot> You drink a silent silver potion (New!). Vaur's pockets suddenly contain 1d​10 => 10 Radiation colored marbles.
L204[16:48:23] <Forec​aster> huh
L205[16:48:37] <Forec​aster> I didn't expect to encounter GladOS in CP2077...
L206[16:50:42] <Amanda> :D
L207[16:50:46] <ff​_66> i really hate firefox
L208[16:50:51] <Amanda> Then don't use it
L209[16:50:53] <ff​_66> i think there is a mem leak
L210[16:51:20] <Amanda> @Forecaster those no-good flamingos!
L211[16:51:37] <ff​_66> if you wait 30 minutes, then using any 3D intensive app becomes laggy
L212[16:51:50] <ff​_66> or 3D game
L213[16:53:17] <ff​_66> i use firefox only because it's *slightly* faster than opera or any chromium based browser
L214[16:54:28] <Amanda> Hrm. I can make smol-browser use qt6 now that I don't have an armv7 device anymore to run it on
L215[16:54:42] <Amanda> but I suspect I'm just not going to use it anymore shortly
L216[16:55:48] <Amanda> The pinetab2 can probably run a big-girl browser just fine
L217[16:56:20] <ff​_66> fun fact : did you know that an arm7 chip is present on Gameboy advance and Nintendo DS ?
L218[16:56:31] <fe​ris> is there a server with opencomputers and opensecurity mod?
L219[16:58:30] <Forec​aster> Your best bet is to find a modpack and then search for servers that use it
L220[16:59:00] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> @Forecaster those no-good flamingos!
L221[16:59:00] <Forec​aster> Flamingos?
L222[16:59:19] <Amanda> @Forecaster you'll see
L223[16:59:52] <Amanda> ( I thought it was part of that cab's mission, guess not )
L224[17:00:16] <Amanda> oh right, GLaDOS Cab is the one that ambushes you...
L225[17:00:41] <Forec​aster> I haven't done all of them yet
L226[17:01:26] <Amanda> That was fun set of missions
L227[17:01:57] <Amanda> I should load up CP2077 again
L228[17:02:39] <ff​_66> and i hate myself because my pc is only good at playing minecraft
L229[17:03:28] <ff​_66> the only thing i can for the moment is picking a better psu and case
L230[17:03:35] <ff​_66> * do for the moment is picking a better psu and case
L231[17:03:47] <Forec​aster> There are less demanding games than Minecraft
L232[17:03:51] <ff​_66> and overclock my poor 6600K
L233[17:03:55] <Amanda> %choose play with code or continue with the adhd waiting mode parallasis
L234[17:03:55] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: You *could* do "continue with the adhd waiting mode parallasis", I guess.
L235[17:04:01] <Forec​aster> Like Tetris, for example
L236[17:04:23] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> There are less demanding games than Minecraft
L237[17:04:24] <ff​_66> thats not the problem, the problem is that i have a 25% cpu bottleneck
L238[17:04:31] <Forec​aster> Also I hardly think the case has a major impact on performance
L239[17:04:54] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> Like Tetris, for example
L240[17:04:55] <ff​_66> i can pick a gameboy for that and i'll be very eco-friendly
L241[17:05:01] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> Also I hardly think the case has a major impact on performa…
L242[17:05:02] <ff​_66> the cooling maybe ?
L243[17:05:30] <ff​_66> i have only one fan at the moment and i can only put 2 of them
L244[17:06:43] <ff​_66> so if i want to overclock i would need as much cooling as possible
L245[17:06:49] <fe​ris> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721927209573.png
L246[17:06:54] <ff​_66> even 10% gain is worth it
L247[17:08:05] <ff​_66> and my box cooler is idling even 100% CPU activity so that's definitely not a problem
L248[17:11:50] <Corded> > <fe​ris>
L249[17:11:50] <Mic​hiyo> Appears to be working for me. https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721927510404.png
L250[17:12:48] <fe​ris> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721927568181.png
L251[17:13:27] <fe​ris> how to lower version of gradle?
L252[17:15:08] <Mic​hiyo> *shrugs* I've not done MC dev in several years, I don't remember how to do much anymore :/
L253[17:15:44] <Forec​aster> What's a computer?
L254[17:20:54] <Amanda> pinning a version of gradle is exactly what the gradlew.bat/sh are for
L255[17:21:10] <fe​ris> so this doesn't work
L256[17:21:34] <fe​ris> but as u can see it's same version as michiyo https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721928094645.png
L257[17:23:35] <fe​ris> fuck java
L258[17:29:28] <Forec​aster> I'm *fairly* sure you're not the first person to say that
L259[17:30:54] <fingercomp> @feris how did you obtain the source code? did you clone the repository?
L260[17:44:21] <Va​ur> %tonk
L261[17:44:21] <MichiBot> By my throth! Va​ur! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of 2 hours, 1 minute and 21 seconds (By 1 hour, 23 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L262[17:44:22] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 3 hours, 24 minutes and 58 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00417 (0.00139 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.00970816 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L263[17:46:03] <Forec​aster> Well, one thing I'ver learned today, opaque holographic signs are apparently actually transparent
L264[17:47:01] <Forec​aster> by which I meant NPCs consider them transparent
L265[17:49:24] <Corded> > <fe​ris> fuck java
L266[17:49:24] <Spider ​EveryOS> If compilation errors in Java bug you, try C or C++ 😄
L267[17:49:51] <Spider ​EveryOS> I've always found trying to compile C/C++ programs an absolute pain
L268[17:50:38] <Va​ur> dont code wrong and you wont have error in compilation x)
L269[17:57:46] <Corded> > <Spider ​EveryOS> I've always found trying to compile C/C++ programs an absol…
L270[17:57:46] <ff​_66> how dare you
L271[17:58:11] <ff​_66> c is the best language ever
L272[17:58:31] <ff​_66> and c++ is theoretically the fastest
L273[17:59:51] <ff​_66> but i think i'm the only one remaining on earth that directly uses the win32 api instead of using qt or something else
L274[18:15:02] <Forec​aster> Hm, modding CP2077 is not that straightforward
L275[18:19:02] <Forec​aster> actually maybe it is, if this works
L276[18:26:20] <ff​_66> java is only good for portablility, because if you can run a jvm on a platform, you can run a lot of java apps, but you still need to compile the natives for the platform to play minecraft
L277[18:26:46] <ff​_66> in c you'll always need to compile the program
L278[18:28:33] <Li​ly> is transposer item transfer based on whether or not the inventory allows that side to be transferred into?
L279[18:28:42] <Li​ly> additionally, if it *is*, is there a way to forcibly allow transfer no matter what?
L280[18:32:46] <ff​_66> no you have to call the function `transferItem(sourceSide:number, sinkSide:number, count:number, sourceSlot:number, sinkSlot:number):number`, the transposer toesn't toggle any transfer, it just transfers when asked to
L281[18:32:58] <Li​ly> No, I don't think you understand here
L282[18:33:17] <Li​ly> I'm going to need a mixin here https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721932397005.png
L283[18:33:17] <Forec​aster> there is no way to force it no
L284[18:33:30] <Li​ly> but I have no idea if a decompiler will play nice with Scala
L285[18:33:38] <Forec​aster> if the inventory doesn't accept transfers it doesn't accept them
L286[18:34:04] <Li​ly> well, if `isSideValidForSlot` is forced true then it *should* work
L287[18:34:21] <Amanda> What do you expect to happen when you force an item into an inventory which doesn't accept items?
L288[18:34:32] <Li​ly> It's moreso I want to force stubborn mods to play nice
L289[18:35:04] <Li​ly> Sometimes they don't let you insert items via automation *at all*. Fortunately for me, mixins exist
L290[18:35:20] <Forec​aster> if it doesn't want to accept items you can't make it, without replacing it's logic
L291[18:36:17] <Amanda> GUIs don't use the same inventory interfaces that automation uses, I don't think
L292[18:36:21] <Li​ly> And while I can target the specific block, it's easier for me to just add a config to force-allow transfers by mixing into `InventoryUtils#insertIntoInventorySlot` and adding a redirect for `IInventory#canInsertItem`
L293[18:36:41] <Li​ly> Or maybe `ISidedInventory#canInsertItem`, not sure
L294[18:37:53] <Amanda> if they don't allow automation at all, chances are they're not exposing an ISidedInventory or IInventory
L295[18:38:05] <Li​ly> well, `getStackInSlot` works
L296[18:39:38] <Li​ly> On a related note: Is it possible to add a component to a block from another mod?
L297[18:40:12] <Amanda> yes
L298[18:40:33] <Li​ly> *Also* also: Is it just me or is the maven outdated
L299[18:40:54] <Li​ly> Only goes to 1.7.5
L300[18:42:23] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> On a related note: Is it possible to add a component to a b…
L301[18:42:23] <ff​_66> adapter
L302[18:42:50] <Li​ly> That's not what I meant
L303[18:43:04] <Li​ly> That's what you would use *if the block had a component* yes
L304[18:43:43] <Li​ly> Hrm. Does OpenLights 1.7.10 support modern OC versions? Last commit referenced 1.4
L305[18:43:55] <ff​_66> [Extending OpenComputers](<https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/tree/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/java/li/cil/oc/api&gt;)
L306[18:43:58] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> Hrm. Does OpenLights 1.7.10 support modern OC versions? Las…
L307[18:43:59] <Mic​hiyo> In theory, yes.
L308[18:44:00] <Li​ly> I ask because I might as well add RPLE support if it does
L309[18:44:26] <Li​ly> I did it for Computronics's lamp, no reason I can't for OL's
L310[18:44:33] <Mic​hiyo> Nothing has changed drasticaly enough in the component interface to break it AFAIK
L311[18:44:44] <Mic​hiyo> What is RPLE?
L312[18:45:03] <Amanda> Rocket-Propelled Little Endian
L313[18:45:14] <Li​ly> Right Proper Lighting Engine
L314[18:45:23] <Li​ly> Coloured lighting, the third
L315[18:45:42] <Mic​hiyo> *sigh* There are already several other colored lighting engines... but no, let's make yet another one
L316[18:46:00] <Mic​hiyo> %xkcd 927
L317[18:46:01] <Li​ly> Are the other two actively maintained
L318[18:46:01] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Standards URL: https://xkcd.com/927
L319[18:46:10] <Li​ly> As far as I'm aware, Albedo is dead
L320[18:46:17] <Li​ly> As well as... whatever the other one was callec
L321[18:46:19] <Li​ly> * called
L322[18:46:31] <Mic​hiyo> Right, all of my mods are "Dead" but they work, so why update them?
L323[18:46:33] <Mic​hiyo> *shrug*
L324[18:46:59] <Li​ly> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L325[18:47:39] <Amanda> Everything must be perpetually committed to
L326[18:47:43] <Li​ly> but yeah RPLE is just coloured lighting: falsepattern/ven edition
L327[18:48:18] <Li​ly> Also I don't know if Colored Light Core still works on modern 1.7
L328[18:48:30] <Li​ly> (given Albedo and Mirage are 1.12-exclusive, while RPLE is 1.7.10)
L329[18:49:15] <Li​ly> it *might* still work without angelica/archaicfix/lumi/falsetweaks/neodymium/<other performance mods>
L330[18:49:47] ⇨ Joins: lily (~Lily@58.84.227.106)
L331[18:49:55] <lily> I doubt it, though.
L332[18:51:48] <lily> Also unrelated question: does computronics have a maven I can get it from
L333[18:51:51] <lily> instead of using a flatjar
L334[18:53:22] <lily> ...OL is /eight/ bits per channel?
L335[18:54:07] <lily> I mean, I guess it makes sense tbf
L336[18:55:43] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> but I have no idea if a decompiler will play nice with Scala
L337[18:55:43] <Li​ly> ..."Not really" https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721933743471.png
L338[18:59:09] <Corded> > <li​ly> ...OL is /eight/ bits per channel?
L339[18:59:10] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, I felt 48 bit color would have been overkill. :P
L340[19:02:44] <Forec​aster> you get some real ugly weapons sometimes...
L341[19:02:46] <Forec​aster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721934166245.png
L342[19:04:47] <Corded> > <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, I felt 48 bit color would have been overkill. :P
L343[19:04:47] <ff​_66> every screen works today in 32-bit color mode so...
L344[19:04:52] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> you get some real ugly weapons sometimes...
L345[19:04:52] <Mic​hiyo> Yeaaaah lol
L346[19:06:38] <ff​_66> and if you don't need tha alpha channel it's 24 bits (still 32 bits in memory though)
L347[19:06:45] <ff​_66> * the alpha channel it's 24 bits (still 32 bits in memory though)
L348[19:07:31] <Forec​aster> at least this one matches my hair
L349[19:07:33] <Forec​aster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721934453562.png
L350[19:07:48] <ff​_66> but you can still need sometimes 281 trillions colors sometimes 😉
L351[19:09:54] <lily> ...When would you /ever/ need that many
L352[19:10:13] <lily> The funny thing is I actually need to HALVE OL's bits per channel
L353[19:10:14] <lily> RPLE is four
L354[19:10:32] <lily> (because vanilla is four)
L355[19:10:51] <lily> well, vanilla is four with just one channel, RPLE is three channels
L356[19:14:04] <lily> Fortunately, it's very easy to chop off the extra channels
L357[19:14:16] <lily> Just `& 0x1f >> 1`
L358[19:14:49] <ff​_66> oh wait
L359[19:15:04] <ff​_66> in fact photochop uses 48-bit colors
L360[19:15:07] <lily> (after splitting into r/g/b ofc)
L361[19:15:10] <ff​_66> * photoshop uses 48-bit colors
L362[19:15:11] <lily> ...Why
L363[19:15:15] <lily> Why do they use that many
L364[19:15:17] <lily> For what purpose
L365[19:15:38] <ff​_66> because if you divide and then multiply back you lose precision
L366[19:15:44] <ff​_66> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth
L367[19:16:09] <Amanda> %o
L368[19:16:09] <Amanda> %p
L369[19:16:10] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ama​nda 0.28s
L370[19:16:19] <ff​_66> and with alpha you have 64-bit color
L371[19:16:31] <lily> Oh god. OL lamps have brightness AND colour.
L372[19:19:38] <Mic​hiyo> Yep
L373[19:20:08] <Mic​hiyo> I had to have something to set them apart from Computronics lights.... Still salty with Vex on that :P /s <3
L374[19:22:43] <Amanda> %p
L375[19:22:44] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ama​nda 0.28s
L376[19:23:22] <Vexatos> I didn't make those lamps D:
L377[19:26:49] <Forec​aster> but you gotta take responsibility for them
L378[19:30:05] <Vexatos> :(
L379[19:31:04] <lily> Oh yeah, while you're here Vexatos: does computronics have a maven?
L380[19:31:12] <Vexatos> of course not
L381[19:31:12] <lily> would like to depend on it the "proper" way
L382[19:31:14] <lily> instead of via `files`
L383[19:31:15] <Vexatos> do I look that competent
L384[19:31:30] <lily> that's a loaded question /j
L385[19:31:47] <Vexatos> it currently doesn't even compile anymore because it has like 20 dependencies that don't exist anymore
L386[19:31:53] <lily> oh lmao
L387[19:32:37] <lily> guess RPLE support isn't getting up-upstreamed any time soon, huh
L388[19:34:55] <lily> what the fuck, this worked first try
L389[19:34:56] <lily> amazing
L390[19:35:19] <SquidDev> "it currently doesn't even compile anymore because it has like 20 dependencies that don't exist anymore" <- Building computronics was a nightmare even when the dependencies existed, let alone now :D.
L391[19:35:46] <lily> (channel & brightness) just works, apparently
L392[19:42:35] <Vexatos> true
L393[19:42:53] <Vexatos> mostly owing to the ridiculous number of dependencies still
L394[19:42:55] <Li​ly> aaaaand that's done https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721936574988.png
L395[19:43:33] <Forec​aster> nice mood lighting
L396[19:45:11] <lily> these are superior to computronics lamps in a couple ways
L397[19:45:24] <lily> mostly the fact that it doesn't use a weird format for setting colour
L398[19:45:52] <Forec​aster> weird format?
L399[19:45:53] <lily> you still get the same ingame light with either of them though at max brightness
L400[19:45:55] <lily> yeah
L401[19:45:57] <lily> five bits per colour
L402[19:46:13] <lily> which means I have to look up a calculator every time I want to change the colour
L403[19:47:00] <Forec​aster> oh yeah, the 15-bit decimal values
L404[19:47:01] <Li​ly> though I guess I could do the same thing I do to split it into r/g/b in reverse
L405[19:47:06] <lily> yeah
L406[19:47:26] <Vexatos> you should use TIS-3D with colourful modules anyway those are way cooler :⁾
L407[19:47:34] <lily> Speaking of Computronics
L408[19:47:39] <lily> is there a reason it's not on CF?
L409[19:47:45] <Vexatos> yes
L410[19:47:45] <Forec​aster> I made the color picker on this thing output values for the lamps for that reason
L411[19:47:45] <Forec​aster> https://towerofawesome.org/oc_interface_assistant/
L412[19:47:51] <lily> and no I'm not just asking because cursemaven is nice, whaaat?
L413[19:48:05] <lily> might I ask the reason?
L414[19:48:07] <Vexatos> no
L415[19:48:11] <lily> aw
L416[19:49:41] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> Rocket-Propelled Little Endian
L417[19:49:41] <Spider ​EveryOS> Imagine mid-endian
L418[19:49:41] <Spider ​EveryOS> If the bytes making up the middle parts of the number were to come firsgt
L419[19:49:47] <Spider ​EveryOS> * first
L420[19:50:35] <lily> ...Any chance of putting Computronics on Modrinth instead ~~so I can abuse their maven I mean what~~? :P
L421[19:51:15] <Amanda> Hrm. My tablet is apparently still in HK
L422[19:51:31] <Vexatos> the problem with modrinth is that I would need to upload it there
L423[19:51:33] <Vexatos> which is effort
L424[19:51:44] <Vexatos> and I am kinda currently finishing up my PhD
L425[19:51:47] <Amanda> This wasn't clear on the tracking page I got from pine64, but apparently it just moved warehouses in HK
L426[19:51:47] <lily> oh, my bad
L427[19:51:49] <lily> didn't realize
L428[19:51:54] <Vexatos> there is a reason I have not been that active lately
L429[19:52:17] <Vexatos> I should put the mod on modrinth probably
L430[19:52:19] <Vexatos> but not now
L431[19:52:20] <lily> and I suppose the problem with uploading builds is that it implies some form of maintanence
L432[19:52:35] <Vexatos> it's technically maintained if I could bother fixing the compilation
L433[19:52:48] <Vexatos> there just isn't anything wrong enough with it to make that worth my time
L434[19:53:06] <lily> NH has their own fork which does compile I think
L435[19:53:17] <lily> don't quote me on that
L436[19:53:25] <Vexatos> I work with the GTNH team, yea
L437[19:53:30] <Vexatos> (for another mod I'm maintaining)
L438[19:53:30] <Forec​aster> but PhD's is easy! you should be able to multitask
L439[19:53:40] <Forec​aster> just look at all the experts on the internet
L440[19:54:08] <Vexatos> yea but how many experts in quantum chemistry do you see on the internet
L441[19:54:51] <Forec​aster> I'm talking about the ones who argue with experts and tell people to do their own research obviously
L442[19:54:52] <lily> oh is THAT what your quitmessage means?
L443[19:55:03] <Forec​aster> it must be super easy to become an expert
L444[19:58:02] <Amanda> .. or it could be in NYC and on hold
L445[20:06:20] <Forec​aster> Amanda I see what you meant with flamingos now
L446[20:06:28] <Vexatos> 🦩
L447[20:06:36] <Amanda> :3
L448[20:08:50] <Vexatos> lily, remind me in a month or two and I might bother
L449[20:09:01] <Vexatos> I'm like 20 pages away from being finished
L450[20:09:24] <lily> will do
L451[20:10:13] <lily> %remindme 30d nudge vexatos
L452[20:10:13] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "nudge vexatos" in 30d at 08/24/2024 08:10:13 PM
L453[20:10:32] <Vexatos> I SURE HOPE I WILL BE DONE THEN
L454[20:10:35] <Vexatos> I hope I will be done next week
L455[20:10:49] <lily> famous last words /j
L456[20:11:04] <lily> michibot's time is in UTC I see
L457[20:16:11] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> aaaaand that's done
L458[20:16:11] <Mic​hiyo> Well, feel free to PR it and I'll merge it in... though I'm not 100% sure when I'll get a chance to build it
L459[20:16:48] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime?
L460[20:16:48] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Fine, but only if I receive pats after.
L461[20:19:04] <Forec​aster> huh, who knew it was a bad idea to climb on a huge gas tank during a gunfight...
L462[20:19:21] <Corded> > <Mic​hiyo> Well, feel free to PR it and I'll merge it in... though I'm…
L463[20:19:21] <Li​ly> Uh, I don't think I can PR this (it's a mixin)
L464[20:19:25] <Li​ly> I'll see about rewriting it though
L465[20:19:30] <Li​ly> shouldn't be too hard to do it natively
L466[20:19:42] <Li​ly> in fact I can probably just... copy it, minus the mixin parts
L467[20:20:08] <Li​ly> I'll do that now
L468[20:21:03] <Li​ly> on second thought: this isn't going to build without replacing the buildscript
L469[20:21:21] <Amanda> %pat MichiBot
L470[20:21:21] <MichiBot> Amanda is brushing MichiBot with the galactic coordinates to the 'verse. MichiBot regains 1d6 => 3 hit points! The galactic coordinates to the 'verse angered a witch and was turned into a toad.
L471[20:21:37] <lily> gradle 1.11, uh, doesn't exist anymore.
L472[20:22:23] <Mic​hiyo> I mean, it's 10 year old code at this point :P
L473[20:22:27] <lily> True
L474[20:22:38] <lily> I asked Ven (RPLE dev) to upstream it to RPLE like he did with my Computronics mixin
L475[20:22:56] <lily> That's probably easier than upstreaming it to OpenLights
L476[20:22:57] <Mic​hiyo> Ah, sounds good then.
L477[20:23:00] <lily> And the result is the same either way
L478[20:23:49] <nadja> lily: Yes pretty much. But I'm disappointed that Vexatos' part message isn't "going Drrrrrr"
L479[20:39:13] <Vexatos> I have had the same parting message for nine years now
L480[20:46:09] <Forec​aster> the nerve
L481[21:10:32] <Amanda> What do you mean? The quantum chemistry jokes are always different!
L482[21:12:54] <Vexatos> the real quantum chemistry joke is M06-2X
L483[21:20:52] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk
L484[21:20:52] <MichiBot> Darn! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 3 hours, 24 minutes and 58 seconds (By 11 minutes and 33 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L485[21:20:53] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 3 hours, 36 minutes and 31 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.00076 (0.00019 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L486[21:20:58] <Spider ​EveryOS> oof
L487[21:21:04] <Spider ​EveryOS> 11 min
L488[22:56:06] <Forec​aster> %sip
L489[22:56:06] <MichiBot> You drink a punctual tuna potion (New!). The bottle splits into two revealing a smaller Boiling Yellow potion.
L490[22:56:24] <Forec​aster> Hm, why is it suddenly 1am
L491[22:59:49] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster with mutable yellow potiom
L492[22:59:49] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable yellow potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a redstone frog girl until they have a woolly potion.
L493[23:00:01] <Amanda> Forg
L494[23:00:10] <Amanda> Elfi, look it, forg
L495[23:00:15] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@p200300EaEF0488008DD1811662f4129e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L496[23:00:34] <Forec​aster> D:<
L497[23:00:40] * Amanda curls up around Elfi, yawns a heccen big yawn, debates zzzmews
L498[23:01:34] <Forec​aster> Now I have to wait until I can have another potion >:
L499[23:02:35] <Amanda> Or you can stay a forg gurp
L500[23:02:40] <Amanda> Gurl*
L501[23:03:07] <Amanda> Just avoid any frenchmen
L502[23:03:51] <Forec​aster> But I don't wanna be a frog
L503[23:04:28] <Amanda> Why not?
L504[23:06:51] <Forec​aster> Too slimy!
L505[23:08:11] <Amanda> I see I see
L506[23:08:14] <Amanda> Well that's fair
L507[23:10:14] * Amanda lays her head on Elfi, burying her in floof, does a heccen zzzmew
L508[23:10:33] <Amanda> Let's see how badly this ducks up my sleep schedule
L509[23:11:26] <Amanda> Night girls
L510[23:14:12] <Forec​aster> Should be enough time now so %sip woolly
L511[23:14:12] <MichiBot> You drink a woolly silver potion (New!). Forecaster's eyes turn the color of amethyst until they see a unicorn.
L512[23:14:23] <Forec​aster> That's fine probably
L513[23:33:10] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster with mutable potion
L514[23:33:10] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable rock potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into an octopus boy until they find a lamp.
L515[23:55:13] ⇦ Quits: simon816 (~simon816@secondary.machine.simon816.com) (Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in)
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