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L1[00:04:33] <lily> Amanda: What if it's both?
L2[00:04:40] <lily> Also,
L3[00:04:42] <lily> Izzy: oh?
L4[00:11:45] <Amanda> lily: then we'd see a forecaster chasing their own tail
L5[00:20:32] <Amanda> Hrm
L6[00:20:38] <Amanda> I'm tired
L7[00:20:47] <Amanda> Elfi, why am I tired?
L8[00:21:55] <Amanda> Izzy: pinetab2 shipped! Kinda. DHL Express just says "info received" hopefully it'll start transit overnight
L9[00:22:29] <Amanda> And it's not just a case of pine 64 making the label to ship it on Friday or similar
L10[00:22:54] <Amanda> I want my tablet before I leave for Florida damnit
L11[00:54:05] <Corded> > <ninte​ndo DS> https://youtu.be/DuxJvOBze9k
L12[00:54:05] <S​3> Oc demoscene when?
L13[01:00:57] * Amanda curls up atop Izzy, does a heccen zzzmew
L14[01:01:03] <Amanda> Night girls
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L19[01:39:33] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonkout
L20[01:39:34] <MichiBot> Holy goopy cloud Batman! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 4 hours, 18 minutes and 18 seconds (By 1 hour, 9 minutes and 18 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L21[01:39:35] <MichiBot> Spider ​EveryOS has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 2.54481908. Position #3 Need 0.00113092 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L24[01:57:19] <lunar_sam> @Ocawesome101 @PewPewCricket sorry i've been asleep for the past few hours
L25[02:00:26] <lunar_sam> give me a bit, probably gonna throw something together
L26[02:00:41] <lunar_sam> to make testing easier for me
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L30[02:16:11] <lunar_sam> @Ocawesome101 yeah yours would be off by one, you'd want part.start+i-1
L31[02:16:24] <lunar_sam> because otherwise you'd initially read part.start+1
L32[02:16:31] <lunar_sam> and go from there
L33[02:16:35] <Ocawes​ome101> that is what i figured and what i have since implemented
L34[02:16:54] <Ocawes​ome101> the implementation is to spec now but ulos2 installation is broken in other ways
L35[02:17:01] <Ocawes​ome101> the joys of enormous complex behemoth projects
L36[02:17:01] <lunar_sam> oof
L37[02:17:29] <lunar_sam> i'm just trying to implement zealfs so i can use it for a bootloader storage partition
L38[02:17:40] <lunar_sam> like, load velx files and stuff from it
L39[02:23:09] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm slowly working on a whole new kernel lmao
L40[02:52:37] <PewPew​Cricket> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721789556910.png
L41[03:29:55] <Corded> > <Ocawes​ome101> i'm slowly working on a whole new kernel lmao
L42[03:29:56] <Spider ​EveryOS> I'm slowly working on a thing that is possibly not an os
L43[03:46:53] <lunar_sam> i'm also slowly working on a kernel but that's part of why i'm writing the zealfs stuff
L44[03:46:57] <lunar_sam> so you can install it from OpenOS
L45[03:47:12] <lunar_sam> ~also working on a filesystem~
L46[03:47:22] <lunar_sam> actually @Ocawesome101 do you have a filesystem yet
L47[03:47:37] <Ocawes​ome101> simplefs is functional
L48[03:47:41] <lunar_sam> ah
L49[03:47:46] <Ocawes​ome101> does unix permissions and stuff
L50[03:48:02] <lunar_sam> do you got docs on it?
L51[03:48:20] <lunar_sam> i'll probably implement it in fennec while i work on foxfs
L52[03:48:28] <Ocawes​ome101> let me find them
L53[03:49:09] <Ocawes​ome101> https://github.com/Ocawesome101/cynosure-2-docs/blob/primary/fs/simplefs.2 here it is, in groff
L54[03:50:53] <lunar_sam> alright, very nice
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L56[03:52:36] <lunar_sam> i will implement that in fennec so i have something that is Known Good
L57[03:52:53] <lunar_sam> i am going to run up to the wawa though :v
L58[03:53:17] <lunar_sam> uhhh, you got any tools for working with simplefs in OC yet?
L59[03:55:33] <lunar_sam> not OC, OpenOS
L60[03:55:37] <lunar_sam> sorry, brain not working
L61[03:55:48] <Ocawes​ome101> openos no
L62[03:56:28] <lunar_sam> i'll probably work on that too then
L63[03:56:29] <lunar_sam> lmao
L64[03:56:52] <lunar_sam> maybe i'll make something that can load OpenOS off of an unmanaged disk :p
L65[03:57:15] <Ocawes​ome101> that'd be neat
L66[04:06:56] <Ocawes​ome101> lunar_sam: it probably wouldn't be too hard to port my mkfs utility. https://github.com/oc-ulos/coreutils/blob/dev/src/bin/mkfs.sfs.lua
L67[04:07:12] <Ocawes​ome101> at least the logic of it
L68[04:07:22] <Ocawes​ome101> argument parsing and drive io are the main things that wouldn't work
L69[04:07:30] <Izzy> if you want "running OpenOS off an unmanaged disk" I have that
L70[04:07:35] <Izzy> assuming you're okay with mtpt and rtfs
L71[04:07:43] <Izzy> :p
L72[04:07:59] <lunar_sam> true!
L73[04:08:23] <lunar_sam> i just want to implement more FS things in OpenOS lol
L74[04:08:50] <lunar_sam> honestly maybe i should make a unified `mountfs` command or something like that
L75[04:08:59] <lunar_sam> that you can just add stuff onto
L76[04:09:01] <lunar_sam> idk
L77[04:09:22] <lunar_sam> currently all my tools use jank ass partition specifiers
L78[04:09:36] <lunar_sam> maybe i should also support not having to specify the partition table type
L79[04:09:41] <lunar_sam> and letting libpart figure that out
L80[04:10:03] <lunar_sam> like, just passing `(486,2)` instead of `osdi(486,2)`
L81[04:11:09] <lunar_sam> ~then i should make more human understandable device specifiers lol~
L82[04:11:21] <lunar_sam> like `disk0p1` or w/e
L83[04:14:01] <Izzy> I should make uhhh partman cope with different partition tables
L84[04:14:53] <Izzy> my suggestion for human-friendly partition names is <shortened unambiguous UUID>/<partnum>
L85[04:16:45] <lunar_sam> i mean i want something i can throw in /dev
L86[04:20:25] <Izzy> mmmh
L87[04:20:39] <Izzy> partman makes vcomponents so it's not really the same usecase
L88[04:24:04] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L89[04:24:05] <MichiBot> Awesome! Forec​aster! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 44 minutes and 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L90[04:24:06] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 44 minutes and 30 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00274 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.02338092 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L95[06:14:18] <Forec​aster> Ohno
L96[06:35:26] <PewPew​Cricket> i dont know what is causing this https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721802925831.png https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721802926007.lua https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721802926165.lua
L97[06:35:40] <PewPew​Cricket> BOOTCODE is kernel.lua
L98[06:50:57] <lunar_sam> @PewPewCricket
L99[06:50:59] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/QTS3H8uRnHVnoIrcfD6RigIiVo3O4ID8nWtuiBCh/3098251a-479a-49e7-9764-1e855be1b60e.png
L100[06:51:17] <PewPew​Cricket> i saw one too many ends
L101[06:51:30] <PewPew​Cricket> fixed
L102[06:51:38] <PewPew​Cricket> now time to add tty
L103[06:57:30] <Forec​aster> Just write `<eof>` after every end
L104[07:02:18] <ff​_66> no i think there is too much end
L105[07:03:04] <ff​_66> its like putting more `)` than `(`
L106[07:03:42] <ff​_66> so check for misplaced `end` statements
L107[07:04:19] <ff​_66> * there is too much end
L108[07:05:11] <ff​_66> but putting a ctrl + Z should also work (at least on windows)
L109[07:12:26] <ff​_66> it would break the file but at least on DOS its useful when doing the command `edlin con`
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L112[07:31:03] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/L5o4MnMdrIqE3yeWtdFXCLJylmttCcKzq0iGFapv/809978ca-ec98-48ab-aaeb-f6bfc8b57d3d.png
L113[07:31:03] <lunar_sam> yippie
L114[07:31:29] <ff​_66> how much entries are there ?
L115[07:34:05] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/XbrIwCqPeRHNmGWZeS9mOuukcPRcmUVvH0VU7TH3/fa27bf52-d58e-451f-9a2a-821a7d110bd4.png
L116[07:34:13] <lunar_sam> 6 for the root directory, 8 for all other directories
L117[07:34:29] <ff​_66> thats not much at all
L118[07:34:41] <ff​_66> i expected like 16 at least
L119[07:34:43] <lunar_sam> it's for a bootloader storage filesystem in OC
L120[07:34:50] <lunar_sam> you really don't need more than that
L121[07:34:59] <ff​_66> ah it explains everything the
L122[07:35:04] <ff​_66> * then
L123[07:35:22] <ff​_66> you don't event need folders at all
L124[07:35:30] <ff​_66> for a bootloader
L125[07:35:53] <ff​_66> or at least no subfolders needed
L126[07:38:41] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/ylvMA5Vb3tYTmlUeYjIqpxfbS6zmsYO9ZWAYUuVG/d5d23806-edfc-4767-a5ec-52d17b463019.png
L127[07:38:59] <lunar_sam> subfolders are nice for other stuff i have planned but w/e
L128[07:39:26] <lunar_sam> each page is 256 bytes so yeah
L129[07:40:27] <lunar_sam> anyways, now time to implement actual file i/o
L130[07:40:32] <ff​_66> you're making me wanting to create my own fs
L131[07:41:41] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/eahdEQDMQpT99n5mPTjTeEZn4ibm8yc9lj76H185/3b8ea742-2ee4-4ace-b839-d19288845c62.png
L132[07:41:58] <lunar_sam> the dates are currently wrong but idk if it's a problem in the BCD encoding/decoding or the way i'm getting the real time
L133[07:43:10] <ff​_66> open f3 menu and tell me how much days have elapsed
L134[07:43:17] <lunar_sam> i'm using ocelot
L135[07:43:25] <ff​_66> if its 16 you've got your answer
L136[07:43:30] <ff​_66> ah yes
L137[07:44:00] <lunar_sam> oh you know what, i bet it's related to os.date being changed
L138[07:44:38] <ff​_66> os.date has been reimplemented to use ingame time and supports most formats.
L139[07:44:44] <ff​_66> thats why
L140[07:45:23] <lunar_sam> i'll worry about it later
L141[07:47:12] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/y0gcNvQU3SMDiYG4ZFVLgcPmvkbzKuJVTpzJlPpm/5941b467-6185-476a-a535-43fdd3df9d58.png
L142[07:47:18] <lunar_sam> very nice
L143[07:48:28] <lunar_sam> once i get this working, gonna make an improved version based on the issues on the repo for the FS lol
L144[07:49:32] <lunar_sam> https://github.com/Zeal8bit/ZealFS/issues
L145[07:50:31] <lunar_sam> this would let me have directories with an unlimited number of entries
L146[08:13:44] <Va​ur> %tonk
L147[08:13:45] <MichiBot> Dogast! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 2 hours, 44 minutes and 30 seconds (By 1 hour, 5 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L148[08:13:46] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 3 hours, 49 minutes and 39 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00327 (0.00109 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L149[08:23:34] <Izzy> > pick a distro known for being relatively slow on package updates
L150[08:23:39] <Izzy> > surprised when there are no updates
L151[08:23:46] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/media/27ed134019952a426019ed77e1159ecbc546fbc7d17f3e335b94ad107e2001ea.png
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L160[08:59:01] <ff​_66> is it me or discord died for 1 minute ?
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L162[09:53:15] <ff_66> Client: HexChat 2.16.0 OS: Ubuntu "jammy" 22.04 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (1,99GHz) Memory: Physical: 7,5 Gio Total (5,1 Gio Free) Swap: 2,0 Gio Total (2,0 Gio Free) Storage: 299,4 Go / 960,3 Go (660,9 Go Free) VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] @ Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller Uptime: 2h 54m 42s
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L164[10:17:05] <lunar_sam> what
L165[11:05:11] <ninte​ndo DS> dalnet! https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721819110885.png
L166[11:17:45] <Amanda> Oooo my tablet was picked up! -continies refreshing the tracking page every 5min-
L167[11:18:57] <stephanj> did you order a new one?
L168[11:26:03] <Amanda> I ordered a pinetab2 last Saturday because my Nexus 7 suddenly unalived itself
L169[11:28:47] <Amanda> ... And now 34tauri-c is making noise from its fan
L170[11:35:19] <Amanda> Oh hey, an email from DHL Express says I'll be getting my tablet on friday
L171[11:36:43] <ninte​ndo DS> dalnet works! https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721821003057.png https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721821003211.png
L172[11:39:07] <Amanda> Hey stephanj, can you come over and fix the fan on 34tauri-c for me? I don't think I really have the spoons to disassemble it and reassemble it again
L173[11:39:51] <Amanda> It's just a short flight from the EU to philly, right?
L174[11:44:04] <Forec​aster> It's less than a lightyear
L175[12:01:59] <ninte​ndo DS> discord is impossible tho
L176[12:02:05] <ninte​ndo DS> on OC
L177[12:06:35] <Amanda> aaaand k3s is crash-looping on regina-c
L178[12:06:45] <Amanda> flannel is doing a heccen npe
L179[12:08:52] <Izzy> thinkin about
L180[12:08:56] <Izzy> TLS proxy for OC
L181[12:09:20] <Izzy> runs on localhost, makes TLS connections
L182[12:09:33] <Izzy> you have to trust the server already, why not trust it to do TLS as well?
L183[12:12:42] <ninte​ndo DS> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721823161894.png
L184[12:15:09] <stephanj> Amanda: i get no chaos cat magic transportation credits foe that?!
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L187[12:17:05] <Amanda> oh, okay. I guess we're restarting shit again
L188[12:17:07] * Amanda sighs
L189[12:17:30] <Amanda> stephanj: nadja says I can't tear holes in space-time anymore, so no
L190[12:19:34] <stephanj> aww! nadja, i am not impressed!
L191[12:19:56] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L192[12:19:57] <MichiBot> Blast! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 49 minutes and 39 seconds (By 16 minutes and 32 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L193[12:19:58] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.58534092, Position #1
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L196[12:32:16] <nadja> stephanj: You're not the one who has to patch them up again, are you now?
L197[12:33:56] <stephanj> Amanda: please report how you like the pinetab2! sounds interesting
L198[12:34:32] <stephanj> nadja: well. no i just redeploy the SpaceTimeAsCode repo again? much easier
L199[12:36:58] <ninte​ndo DS> is this oc server on dalnet
L200[12:37:04] <ninte​ndo DS> the IRC server
L201[12:37:09] <Amanda> No, esper
L202[12:37:21] <ninte​ndo DS> rip
L203[12:38:01] <Amanda> stephanj: will do
L204[12:40:41] <stephanj> still searching something decent linux running with stylus support for note taking
L205[12:41:01] <stephanj> the samsung a6 lite was a dissapointment due to there no free&open source android apps for that
L206[12:41:11] <stephanj> only stuff requiring you to use various clouds
L207[12:41:32] <stephanj> and i really don't wanna buy a remarkable(which i would have to decloud too :/)
L208[12:43:41] <Amanda> I don't know that the pinetab2 has a stylus? at least I don't recall seeing anything about one
L209[12:43:55] <Amanda> The pinenote does, I think, but that's something different
L210[13:14:57] <Amanda> stephanj: spacetimeascode is aabout 13 billion years out of date
L211[13:16:35] <Corded> > <luna​r_sam> i'll worry about it later
L212[13:16:35] <S​3> Made yourself a hex editor eh?
L213[13:17:08] <S​3> Whatever it is it looks like a nice one. Reminds me almost of heme
L214[13:27:05] <nadja> stephanj: Which would nuke the entire universe back into a third big bang. See, *this* is why you don't let DevOps touch the multiverses.
L215[13:33:21] <stephanj> Amanda: not my issue if the devs don't update the code after they did changes in the UI. they have to learn somehow
L216[13:33:54] <stephanj> Amanda: the PT2 does nto seem to have stylus support
L217[13:34:46] <stephanj> nadja: wellll, see my previous reply :P i started as a Sys Admin. DevOps just how i live out my destructive tendencies
L218[13:38:11] <nadja> stephanj: No you don't get it, the Universe isn't code and separate data. It's self-modifying code and the state of the code *is* the data. This isn't the fault of the Dev, you just can't express 12-dimensional string theory without self-modifying code.
L219[13:38:57] * Amanda bats at the cosmic strings
L220[13:39:59] <stephanj> nadja: sounds like an implementation oversight in the engine and way to complex to maintain, better reset it to something simple! will solve soooo many maintenance issues
L221[13:41:11] <stephanj> also... no backup no compassion. I love the people who tell me that they don't need k8s backups because they have everything in code!
L222[13:41:45] <Amanda> But restoring a backup would just make me tear the hole again when we got back to that time point
L223[13:42:02] <Amanda> And partial backups are right out
L224[13:42:17] <nadja> Feel free to build an universe that doesn't rely on intricacies in its string model to not fall apart. It'll probably only take you a trillion years or so, judging by this universe!
L225[13:42:19] <stephanj> yes and if the devs(or the universe itself) did not fix it before we get there... tja.
L226[13:43:04] <stephanj> nadja: the nice thing is, once i ran destroy on this universe... there is nobody left to redeploy! such a nice thought
L227[13:46:08] <Corded> > <Z0id​burg> Whatever it is it looks like a nice one. Reminds me almost …
L228[13:46:08] <luna​r_sam> nah, it's imhex
L229[13:48:27] <Forec​aster> Is fun when your phone suddenly decides it doesn't want anything to do with the mobile network anymore and just deletes it's e-sim out of nowhere
L230[14:07:49] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk
L231[14:07:49] <MichiBot> Dogast! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 47 minutes and 52 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L232[14:07:50] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 1 hour, 47 minutes and 52 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.0018 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.00207092 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L233[14:08:28] <Amanda> stephanj: just because you won't survive the universe being deallocated, doesn't mean everyone wont. :P
L234[14:08:53] <stephanj> yes but that shifts the problem to another person, so not my problem anymore :P
L235[14:08:59] <stephanj> i am not playing fair!
L236[14:21:37] <Amanda> goddesses damnit
L237[14:24:30] <ninte​ndo DS> https://oc.cil.li/topic/2469-oc-dalnet-an-dalnet-client-for-opencomputers/
L238[14:31:54] <Forec​aster> %sip
L239[14:31:55] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly violet potion (New!). Forecaster's bed is suddenly slightly more comfortable until they tonk.
L240[14:32:41] <Forec​aster> Unfortunately I'm going to have to eventually
L241[14:36:45] <Amanda> ... well poop
L242[14:36:59] <Amanda> TIL renovate doesn't handle the k3s release scheme well
L243[14:37:11] <Amanda> or I'm using it wrong
L244[14:37:35] <Amanda> k3s-v1.30.2+k3s2 fixes the issue I'm having with it crashing, renovate still has me at k3s-v1.30.2+k3s1
L245[14:38:22] <Forec​aster> No renovations for you
L246[14:41:44] <Amanda> Apparently
L247[14:45:41] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> Unfortunately I'm going to have to eventually
L248[14:45:41] <Spider ​EveryOS> You don't *have* to. Tonk game was never a mandatory requirement
L249[14:46:36] <Forec​aster> You're just saying that to decrease the competition!
L250[14:57:36] <Spider ​EveryOS> You caught me red-handed
L251[15:27:07] * Amanda teaches nadja the secret earflick technique to steal coins from rich people
L252[15:31:10] <Amanda> uh...
L253[15:32:51] <Amanda> oh joy
L254[15:33:04] <Amanda> metalb got angry so I've not been getting metrics for awhile
L255[15:38:31] <Amanda> Well that kills my fun somewhat
L256[16:00:05] <Amanda> Espically because what I'm measuring doesn't seem to have helped
L257[16:10:32] <Forec​aster> measure twice, metric once
L258[16:11:59] <Corded> > <surface to ​air missile> nah, it's imhex
L259[16:12:00] <S​3> Oh yeah
L260[16:23:14] <Amanda> I put a fan next to my NUCs, they're all still in the 90sC
L261[16:23:33] <Amanda> I guess it's not going to be that easy
L262[16:29:41] <Forec​aster> put ice cubs on them
L263[16:29:49] <Forec​aster> * cubes on them
L264[16:30:43] <Amanda> Too late, genetically engineered some bears to be made of ice
L265[16:40:14] * Amanda rolls around, having realised she forgot her drugs again
L266[18:02:36] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> I put a fan next to my NUCs, they're all still in the 90sC
L267[18:02:36] <ff​_66> americans be like : what are °C ?
L268[18:05:28] <ff​_66> and are they running 90 C idle or mid load or full load ?
L269[18:07:14] <Amanda> loadavg is like .19 on each. I think I need to replace their thermal paste,but I've not been spoony enough
L270[18:11:34] <ff​_66> i know things about ITX computers but nothing about nano computers sorry... at least clean them and give them a lot of space to breath
L271[18:11:50] <Amanda> I mean, I wasn't asking for advice.
L272[18:13:48] <Forec​aster> I already gave the perfect advice anyway, no other advice needed
L273[18:14:11] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> I already gave the perfect advice anyway, no other advice n…
L274[18:14:11] <ff​_66> best advice be like : liquid nitrogen
L275[18:14:33] <ff​_66> + you can easily overclock them
L276[18:15:29] <ff​_66> and even when "hot" it should be able to make ice
L277[18:16:15] <Forec​aster> that's too expensive
L278[18:16:32] <Forec​aster> you can get free ice just by going to the top of a mountain
L279[18:16:50] <ff​_66> going to the everest is not expensive ???
L280[18:16:58] <ff​_66> nitrogen is everywhere
L281[18:17:07] <ff​_66> 70% of the air
L282[18:17:35] <Forec​aster> milking air to get the nitrogen out is too much effort
L283[18:19:44] <ninte​ndo DS> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721845183929.png
L284[18:28:17] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> milking air to get the nitrogen out is too much effort
L285[18:28:17] <ff​_66> i think air filters already exist
L286[18:32:17] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonkout
L287[18:32:17] <MichiBot> Potzblitz! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 47 minutes and 52 seconds (By 2 hours, 36 minutes and 35 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L288[18:32:18] <MichiBot> Spider ​EveryOS has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.55661908, Position #3 => #2 (Overtook Forecaster) Need 0.02872184 more points to pass Va​ur!
L289[18:32:21] <Forec​aster> I deny their existence
L290[18:32:26] <Forec​aster> D:
L291[18:32:29] <Forec​aster> how dare you
L292[18:33:46] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster with mutable green potion
L293[18:33:46] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable green potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a red bear until they have a nap.
L294[18:33:58] <Forec​aster> hey D:
L295[18:34:02] <Forec​aster> I can't nap now
L296[18:34:19] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> I deny their existence
L297[18:34:19] <Spider ​EveryOS> I saw you typing so hurried to type first
L298[18:34:52] <Forec​aster> well, %redshell "Spider EveryOS"
L299[18:34:52] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: Unfortunately you missed with a 9 vs 14.
L300[18:34:56] <Forec​aster> dangit
L301[18:35:06] <Forec​aster> I can't hit anything with these it seems
L302[18:35:35] <Spider ​EveryOS> Wouldn't have much effect anyways, as I recently learned
L303[18:35:41] <Amanda> Good, my shipment of defective red shells worked!
L304[18:35:43] <Amanda> I mean, what?
L305[18:35:47] <Forec​aster> D:<
L306[18:35:54] <Forec​aster> it would have *some* effect
L307[18:36:10] <Spider ​EveryOS> 😅
L308[18:36:24] <Forec​aster> it was mostly to be petty, but then I went and missed anyway
L309[18:36:54] <Amanda> You're not immune because of the space, it just means that people need to surround your nick in quotes, Spider.
L310[18:37:07] <Amanda> That's why Vaur's shell failed that one time
L311[18:41:36] <Forec​aster> They were referring to the relatively low amount of score change
L312[18:47:40] <Spider ​EveryOS> Yea, Forecaster is right
L313[18:49:41] <Spider ​EveryOS> I wonder how michibot handles zero-width spaces
L314[18:49:41] <Spider ​EveryOS> Not gonna try, just saying I wonder
L315[18:50:19] <Forec​aster> They're filtered out, maybe
L316[18:53:45] <Va​ur> %sip
L317[18:53:47] <MichiBot> You drink a ripe currentcorn potion (New!). It tastes sour.
L318[18:57:14] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> They're filtered out, maybe
L319[18:57:14] <ff​_66> remember a game were you could use emojis in chat. they were not displayed and they were not trimmed. i got a "line is too short" error, which i didn't know it existed, and when using 2 of them i could print empty lines in the chat. Thanks win+; !
L320[18:59:13] <Forec​aster> ...okay
L321[19:00:50] <ff​_66> so spaces and strange characters (especially utf8) are really useful sometimes
L322[19:22:27] * Amanda teaches Elfi how to realign the planets to do what you want to do
L323[19:24:39] <Forec​aster> Hey! You can't do that!
L324[19:24:53] <Amanda> nadja's distracted, so it's fine. :3
L325[19:25:19] <Forec​aster> D:<
L326[19:28:46] * Amanda curls up around Elfi to provide mana to her
L327[19:30:17] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> teaches Elfi how to realign the planets to do what you want…
L328[19:30:17] <ff​_66> i can realign `the planets` : `aeehlnpstt `
L329[19:32:29] * Amanda lets her laptop do a heccen zzz, loads up youtubes to watch some stuff
L330[19:40:32] <Amanda> %choose factory or space
L331[19:40:32] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Is it a bird?! Is it a plane?! No! It's "factory"!
L332[19:40:40] <Amanda> Hrm
L333[19:47:17] <ff​_66> that's where you work to make a rocket
L334[19:57:02] <Forec​aster> Stop trying to launch the factories into space!
L335[20:05:41] <ff​_66> what do you want to do else on the moon ?
L336[20:05:59] <ff​_66> live here ?
L337[20:06:11] <ff​_66> or work here ?
L338[20:07:25] <Forec​aster> Eat cheese
L339[20:07:53] <Forec​aster> If you remember your crackers
L340[20:12:32] <PewPew​Cricket> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721851952520.png
L341[20:15:23] <Forec​aster> Don't panic!
L342[20:21:02] <nadja> Izzy: In a cruel twist of fate I am now writing Rimworld mods. See what you make me do? D:<
L343[20:21:12] <nadja> Amanda: aka, yes I am.
L344[20:23:02] <Forec​aster> A terrible fate
L345[20:29:31] <ninte​ndo DS> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721852971516.png
L346[20:29:47] <ninte​ndo DS> something i coded
L347[20:56:32] * Amanda quickly moves the planets back into place before nadja notices
L348[20:57:11] <Amanda> Mercury was a trans-nuptunium object right?
L349[20:57:30] <Amanda> Eh, close enough
L350[21:00:10] <Forec​aster> < - <
L351[21:05:13] <Amanda> %choose pasta or pizza
L352[21:05:13] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I tried reading my tea leaves this morning. There was something about death and doom. Anyway, go with "pizza"
L353[21:05:21] <Amanda> I'm sure that's fine
L354[21:07:04] <Forec​aster> Who cares about doom when there's pizza
L355[21:11:07] <Forec​aster> I want pizza...
L356[21:11:55] <Amanda> Mine! My pizza!
L357[21:14:36] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> I like pizza. Currently have Mac & Cheese with Chicken.
L358[21:15:47] <stephanj> on pizza? sounds yummy
L359[21:20:56] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Just in a bowl.
L360[21:21:00] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> No Pizza sadlt.
L361[21:21:02] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> *sadly
L362[21:21:34] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Can't make it as our oven heats the house up too much, and getting it from a pizza place is expensive.
L363[21:24:01] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> On the topic of macaroni, I was talking to someone earlier, and they mentioned a church potluck that someone brought plain cold macaroni to.
L364[21:25:15] <Forec​aster> Pizza in a bowl is a thing
L365[21:29:32] <stephanj> sunday we made a salad, monday i had the brillant idea to stuff the rest of that onto a pizza base and make a calzone out of that. yumm yumm
L366[22:00:42] <Amanda> Well, the case for my pinetab2 just came in from Amazon
L367[22:01:37] <Amanda> The delivery driver played skeeball with it across my porch. Hopefully the DHL driver doesn't do that with the actual tablet
L368[22:08:45] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/vqRjIiVEN1jhQUo5xusGPTArChw929IU0x1fRxsl/7107b019-96c7-42cf-a1bb-a5694a834a9d.png
L369[22:14:10] <stephanj> Amanda: always sad to hear that delivery drivers in the US are so bad :( Amazon just started doing delivery themselves here too about a year and a half ago.... stuff left infront of the door(Thankfully here they are often not quite so "observeable") and then driving away, in an optimal case they ring the bell
L370[22:18:03] <Izzy> nadja: I mean, same! I even monkeypatched one written in C#!
L371[22:18:44] <Amanda> stephanj: I mean, I've got it on camera, but if I made a stink about it all that'd do is get some poor gig worker who probably doesn't even have bathroom breaks in "trouble"
L372[22:19:02] <stephanj> yea
L373[22:19:48] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/jNx7TUpK1O0WouoobwJcnzQ1kwQ5YgU1MnocUN5R/b1c82f0a-0005-4889-9a47-09e54ee16ccc.png
L374[22:19:49] <lunar_sam> oh huh
L375[22:19:52] <lunar_sam> that's something
L376[22:19:58] <lunar_sam> oops
L377[22:22:01] <lunar_sam> ???
L378[22:22:02] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/M9Jl2GeK4snWISlwFD4T92PQlwiVBUQsbwJPvWDZ/a3510965-d50a-43bc-97da-c7e65aeff8e4.png
L379[22:22:26] <lunar_sam> how did i even manage this
L380[22:23:51] <Amanda> If I had to guess, unread contracts with devils
L381[22:30:02] <Amanda> Never leave devils on unread, they don't like that
L382[22:40:48] <lunar_sam> well i have no idea how it overwrote all of page 0 but we're ball ig
L383[22:41:07] <lunar_sam> now to figure out why it's not writing
L384[22:44:14] <Izzy> it's only been three months but I finally have my optane swap set up
L385[22:44:33] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/hllI2z7cbXkp1ld4XEp9qZw1MbOk8TxiL2TvKElv/d86a367c-ac5a-42d0-8b37-703b98ce4119.png
L386[22:44:36] <lunar_sam> mental flashbang
L387[22:45:17] <lunar_sam> it literally shouldn't be able to overwrite the start of page 0
L388[22:45:18] <lunar_sam> yet it somehow does
L389[22:47:59] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/media/de5a8a85997e13378fd346c2e7dd28d5a1dcfbd70b7c93cd6df07c8f41db30c5.png
L390[22:48:10] <lunar_sam> oh nvm i'm just an idiot
L391[22:54:46] <Amanda> It was the devil's and their contacts wasn't it?
L392[22:56:34] <PewPew​Cricket> whar https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721861794222.png https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1721861794356.lua
L393[22:57:45] <Izzy> k.tty doesn't exist
L394[22:57:47] <Izzy> 555-come-on-now
L395[23:00:19] <PewPew​Cricket> i forgor
L396[23:00:23] <S​3> @Izzy crowdstrike strikes again@!@
L397[23:00:24] <PewPew​Cricket> fixed it
L398[23:00:45] <S​3> Oh i meant pewpewcricket
L399[23:01:53] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/ABGdWvowZSkhG8PJXP1LqSNE6YsaVzcvDVq34tjb/e5b4b1ad-6c9b-4df0-822a-c7bce603c48d.png
L400[23:01:55] <lunar_sam> we are so back
L401[23:02:12] <lunar_sam> also wow that's a lot of reads to page 0
L402[23:02:27] <lunar_sam> mayhaps i should cache it but that's a problem for later me
L403[23:02:53] <Izzy> read cache for rtfs made it perform much better
L404[23:02:57] <Amanda> Future Sam hates past Sam
L405[23:02:57] <lunar_sam> also my "overwriting page 0" problem was me not returning from the function after the Special Case for page 0
L406[23:03:09] <lunar_sam> Izzy: it's a filesystem with a max size of 64K
L407[23:03:12] <lunar_sam> it'll probably be fine
L408[23:03:15] <Izzy> write cache for rtfs made little difference in practice
L409[23:03:34] <lunar_sam> i'm letting openos handle actual file handle caching B)
L410[23:03:49] <Izzy> yeah rtfs only caches metadata
L411[23:03:58] <Izzy> and by metadata I mean the index
L412[23:05:28] <Izzy> lunar_sam: stupid idea: what if I were to use the empty space in the rtfs superblock to store CRC-8s of the first 512-superblock size filenames in the index
L413[23:06:15] <lunar_sam> but why
L414[23:06:22] <Izzy> then index searches could read only the blocks containing the correct hashes
L415[23:06:50] <lunar_sam> oh huh
L416[23:06:57] <lunar_sam> fair enough
L417[23:08:05] <Izzy> then for bonus points, allow defragmenting the index in such a way that all the colliding filename hashes appear in the same block
L418[23:09:00] <Izzy> maybe even extend the superblock to support like idk
L419[23:09:42] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/6FkZs9UfJrLDy69rUSXzdnsWiYFINTRkwpHH3xJO/53852d34-af02-403e-a14c-1cf05764a245.png
L420[23:09:54] <lunar_sam> \o/
L421[23:10:00] <Izzy> there's 8K sectors on a 4M disk so even scale it for that?
L422[23:10:07] <lunar_sam> still need to fix the dates but i don't care
L423[23:10:19] <lunar_sam> also what
L424[23:10:38] <Izzy> the size of the hash cache
L425[23:10:56] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/8PCdCv07NMi2UwesfFK5S227RcpZxY5G9gJJZWuR/91173c5e-912a-4d66-b1e0-cd91584c2354.png
L426[23:10:57] <lunar_sam> ah
L427[23:11:04] <lunar_sam> also that looks wrong
L428[23:11:04] <lunar_sam> :p
L429[23:11:20] <Izzy> alternatively, store the hash cache as a regular file and keep it in memory anyway
L430[23:15:00] <lunar_sam> <-- local idiot forgets to actually allocate the pages on write
L431[23:19:33] <lunar_sam> h u h
L432[23:19:37] <lunar_sam> copy just doesn't do anything
L433[23:19:40] <lunar_sam> what's with that
L434[23:29:23] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/5zVR1v8KgwlL91BQF4In4kEJmNGtJM54D1Kju8yI/19537286-8a7a-4af4-97f1-6a284d6800d6.png
L435[23:29:26] <lunar_sam> but why, why is it doing that
L436[23:30:18] <lunar_sam> oh wtf
L437[23:30:31] <lunar_sam> what the hell is going on here
L438[23:38:38] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@p200300eaef2c4F00C29dd7C0318A988a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
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