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L1[00:10:59] ⇨ Joins: OC (~oc@pool-71-175-101-7.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
L2[00:11:11] <OC> i return
L3[00:11:22] <OC> for testing stuff
L4[00:11:41] <OC> this IRC got me intrested and i had an idea, i know bad news i got an idea
L5[00:13:12] <OC> how are yall?
L6[00:19:56] <Amanda> I don't think I did this yet today, so time to %splash @Forecaster with mutable banana potion
L7[00:19:56] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable pink potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a fairy boy until they steal the concept of stealing.
L8[00:20:41] <OC> oh thats neat
L9[00:20:50] <Amanda> Oh right, I did, Elfi, fairy fren is now boy
L10[00:27:27] * Amanda meows stories of princesses to Elfi while she waits for her truck to charge so she can get ice for her ships, and dismantle another infinite ore drill
L11[00:29:43] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk
L12[00:29:43] <MichiBot> Wah! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 5 hours, 44 minutes and 18 seconds (By 1 hour, 46 minutes and 56 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L13[00:29:44] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 7 hours, 31 minutes and 14 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.01068 (0.00178 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.1513664 more points to pass Va​ur!
L14[00:39:17] <OC> ight i gtg, night yall
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L16[00:59:29] <Spider ​EveryOS> OpenComputers has quit OpenComputers
L17[01:00:12] <Spider ​EveryOS> (joking about the "OC has quit IRC (Quit: OC) "message)
L18[01:22:01] <S​3> What the duck?
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L21[01:46:24] <Izzy> we optane now https://shadowkat.net/tmp/bbbf.txt
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L23[02:15:45] <Amanda> Wheeeee
L24[02:17:51] <Amanda> I should be good and zzzflop, but space
L25[03:07:08] <Forec​aster> Huh, rolling around in bed feels easier than when I went to sleep for some reason...
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L39[03:31:27] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Mini split.
L40[03:42:12] <Amanda> %choose be good or print the second miner then be good
L41[03:42:13] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I received a telegram from a long lost relative that only read "be good". Weird.
L42[03:42:53] <Amanda> Fiiine
L43[03:43:17] * Amanda collapses into a singularity of floof around Elfi, does a heccen zzzflop
L44[03:43:20] <Amanda> Night girls
L45[03:43:57] <Mim​iru> night
L46[03:44:01] <Amanda> %remindme 7h charge wireless keyboard
L47[03:44:01] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "charge wireless keyboard" in 7h at 05/15/2024 10:44:01 AM
L48[04:28:21] <Forec​aster> %sip
L49[04:28:21] <MichiBot> You drink an ommitted transparent potion (New!). Forecaster feels the need to use "%shell".
L50[04:28:30] <Forec​aster> %shell
L51[04:28:31] <MichiBot> Forec​aster loads an unpatched RCE into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near brando​n3055, kilo​byte, and El​fi. They take 1d6 => 5, 1d6 => 5, and 1d6 => 3 splash damage respectively.
L52[04:28:32] <MichiBot> The unpatched RCE took the red pill and exited the matrix.
L53[04:28:48] <Forec​aster> Oops
L54[05:27:58] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip
L55[05:27:58] <MichiBot> You drink a wild rainbow potion (New!). Spider EveryOS turns into a spice bird fairy boy until they tonk.
L56[06:28:38] <Forec​aster> now you're stuck like that for at least 2 and a half hours
L57[07:41:30] <Forec​aster> https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fossils-4
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L59[08:23:59] <OC> yo!
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L61[09:33:30] <Liizzi​i-chan> Izzy: Nice, my home server is getting an Optane upgrade for some LOG devices for one of my ZFS pools
L62[09:33:46] <Liizzi​i-chan> also i would respond on IRC except Anarchy is currently all alone
L63[09:35:31] <Liizzi​i-chan> anyone IRC side see any wallops/messages from the network ops about anarchy's disconnection?
L64[09:36:33] <Izzy> ayy I'm gonna use this as a psql WAL and swap device
L65[09:36:49] <Izzy> btrfs doesn't really do tiered storage so,,,
L66[09:38:55] <Liizzi​i-chan> i keep using btrfs on a device or two every now and then (think the latest one is my Surface Pro 3, but not 100% if i actually went with btrfs on that) but more often than not, I use ZFS if it's a bare metal system and has some ram spare, or XFS if it's a VM running on said host with a zvol on zfs as it's virtual drive
L67[09:39:18] <Liizzi​i-chan> to me, after using ZFS for a while, btrfs' way of doing things and management commands just feel clunky
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L69[09:44:04] <OC> yo
L70[09:44:11] <Liizzi​i-chan> o/
L71[09:44:24] <OC> just curios but uuuh, does ocelot work? like for this using the OC emulator
L72[09:44:50] <Liizzi​i-chan> i think it works pretty well. Izzy has used it a fair bit if i recall
L73[09:45:09] <OC> alr thanks!
L74[09:45:40] <Izzy> yeah it's pretty okay
L75[09:46:35] <OC> i was curios bc i wanted to do make an irc on OC to OC
L76[09:47:13] <Izzy> come again?
L77[09:47:16] <OC> and using ocelot i can test and work about stuff durring IT class
L78[09:47:30] <OC> uuuh so this goes internet card to internet to the esper.net
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L81[09:48:12] <OC> sooo, the idea is to remove the internet card and make it as a per mc world network
L82[09:50:36] <OC> but also connecting to the esper.net to chat and knowing it does work can help me more
L83[09:51:19] <Liizzii> You could certainly develop something like that, but you'd probably be gutting most of the internals of the IRC program since if you want it to connect in-world and not the outside internet, you'd need to adjust all the transport logic
L84[09:51:38] <OC> yup
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L98[09:51:42] calamity.esper.net sets mode: +o on Lizzy
L99[09:51:46] <Liizzii> \o/
L100[09:51:49] <OC> i looked at possible logic and whatnot
L101[09:51:50] <Liizzii> anarchy is back
L102[09:51:52] <OC> oooh more ppl
L103[09:53:27] <Kristo​pher38> cursed idea: using irc as a communication channel for some protocol
L104[09:53:36] <OC> i meaaan
L105[09:53:44] <OC> thats sorta what i was also gonna use it for
L106[09:53:57] <Liizzii> It's entirely possible to make a program that mainly communicates in-world and then have one instance of it connect out to the internet
L107[09:54:03] <Kristo​pher38> bonus points: you don't have to host anything because irc servers always existed and will always exist
L108[09:54:06] <OC> thats true
L109[09:54:47] <Liizzii> good idea, but make sure you pick a channel that isn't used and isn't the default #oc channel the irc client joins on startup so you don't spam this channel
L110[09:55:23] <OC> yeah i noticed the way it works, in the code is specifically checks :6667 and irc.esper.net
L111[09:55:53] <Lizzy> also keep in mind, IRC messages are limited to 512 characters, which includes all the IRC commands and stuff
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L113[09:56:13] <OC> eh i am not too concerned about the char limit
L114[09:56:41] <OC> for communication cross networks and to other people in one world won't need more than 512
L115[09:56:44] <OC> per line
L116[09:58:16] <OC> and commands could be easy to configure though if i want to do more complex or specific tasks then linked card to tablet and whatever it needs to works
L117[09:58:34] <Izzy> Kristopher38: the original version of vtunnel did exactly that
L118[09:58:43] <OC> oh? whats that
L119[09:58:48] <Kristo​pher38> Izzy: figured it'd be something right up your alley
L120[09:59:20] <Izzy> vtunnel creates a fake linked card component that talks to an internet server
L121[09:59:38] <OC> huh, neat
L122[10:00:49] <OC> actually i kinda got an idea, client -> server -(linked card)-> micro-controller ->internet if i need to connect to internet
L123[10:01:26] <Kristo​pher38> on a related note I found a tool called syncthing, they have a lot of "bridges" hosted by volunteers, so that both parties can connect to one and have two-way communication without either of them needing to have public IP or open ports or whatever
L124[10:01:41] <OC> oh? that is really cool
L125[10:02:07] <OC> knowing my IT teacher he'd probibly let me research all this and figure stuff out for my class rather than whats actually planned for today
L126[10:03:04] <Lizzy> obligatory: we're not responsible for you getting in any potential trouble for not doing the class stuff in class
L127[10:03:50] <OC> well duh, anything i do is completely on me, its just that teacher is chill, and has let me do such things for less IT related
L128[10:06:00] <Izzy> minitel was specced out during networking classes at TAFE :3
L129[10:07:47] <OC> TAFE?
L130[10:08:44] <Izzy> Technical and Further Education
L131[10:08:49] <OC> ah
L132[10:09:16] <OC> my school just has an IT class equivalent to collage course
L133[10:09:53] <OC> surprisingly i am one of the top in that class
L134[10:11:12] <OC> anyways i got to go and get ready for school
L135[10:11:24] <OC> have a great day!
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L137[10:44:02] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: charge wireless keyboard
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L140[10:59:12] <OC> Yello
L141[11:00:43] <OC> Well now that I am outside I know why my head hurts so much
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L145[11:31:09] <Amanda> D:
L146[11:31:25] <Amanda> I'm sorry Elfi, I failed to protecc
L147[11:38:45] <Amanda> The least I can do is retaliate, %shell @Forecaster
L148[11:38:46] <MichiBot> Ama​nda loads a totally-safe hack-proof full-dive helmet into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near @Forec​aster, Away​_21, and pi​ng. They take 1d8 => 4, 1d8 => 7, and 1d8 => 2 splash damage respectively.
L149[11:38:47] <MichiBot> The totally-safe hack-proof full-dive helmet returned a DoesNotExistException.
L150[11:39:38] <Forec​aster> Ow
L151[11:40:30] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L152[11:40:31] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Forec​aster! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of 7 hours, 31 minutes and 14 seconds (By 3 hours, 39 minutes and 32 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L153[11:40:32] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 11 hours, 10 minutes and 47 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.02928 (0.00366 x 8) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L155[11:40:49] <Spider ​EveryOS> Ah, and I was just about to tonkout
L156[11:42:32] <Flamei​ngsoul> What's tonk?
L157[11:49:18] <Forec​aster> %tonkleaders
L158[11:49:18] <MichiBot> https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L159[11:52:50] <Amanda> MichiBot forgot how to http again
L160[11:55:44] <Forecaster> %restart
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L164[12:13:14] <Forec​aster> @Flameingsoul it's an idle game of sorts, the rules are on that page
L165[12:36:39] <Flamei​ngsoul> Alr
L166[12:36:48] <Flamei​ngsoul> Was doing money and investing course work
L167[12:44:16] <Flamei​ngsoul> So the goal is to wait a while with tok then beat record?
L168[12:44:57] <Flamei​ngsoul> %tonk
L169[12:44:57] <MichiBot> Flamei​ngsoul: You should probably read this: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L170[12:45:50] <Flamei​ngsoul> Oh I forgot the code thing
L171[12:46:02] <Flamei​ngsoul> %tonk 63A45
L172[12:46:02] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Flameingsoul, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 11 hours, 10 minutes and 47 seconds this time. 1 hour, 5 minutes and 31 seconds were wasted! Missed by 10 hours, 5 minutes and 15 seconds!
L173[12:47:07] <Flamei​ngsoul> Oh ok
L174[12:47:09] <Amanda> %remindme 2h ice miner's charged
L175[12:47:09] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "ice miner's charged" in 2h at 05/15/2024 02:47:09 PM
L176[12:50:46] <Forec​aster> more time has to pass than the current record, it can be "a while", or much more than that
L177[12:51:21] <Forec​aster> just now you reset the timer, so in 11 hours from now it would be time to tonk again
L178[12:54:02] <Flamei​ngsoul> Alr
L179[12:54:52] <Forec​aster> it is a silly game for silly people, and I say that as the silliest person who created the game
L180[12:56:35] <Flamei​ngsoul> Soo pretty much 6pm est is when next tonk ir later
L181[13:01:30] <Forec​aster> I don't think that's right, I think it's 8:10pm something?
L182[13:06:25] <Flamei​ngsoul> I got 6 7 and 8
L183[13:06:36] <Flamei​ngsoul> I expect failure no matter which I choose
L184[13:07:01] <Corded> > <Mich​iBot> Forecaster's new record is 11 hours, 10 minutes and 47 seco…
L185[13:07:01] <Flamei​ngsoul> 11 hrs 7
L186[13:07:10] <Flamei​ngsoul> Well 7:40 so yeah 7
L187[13:07:14] <Flamei​ngsoul> Wait
L188[13:07:41] <Flamei​ngsoul> 7 5- 12 , 6 6:40 + 10 is practically 7
L189[13:10:58] <Forec​aster> I generally use <https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html&gt; to calculate the target
L190[13:11:25] <Forec​aster> * <https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html?type=add> to calculate the target
L191[13:15:44] <Flamei​ngsoul> I guess
L192[13:15:54] <Flamei​ngsoul> If I need time I guess it then round
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L194[13:20:36] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L195[13:24:36] <Flamei​ngsoul> Hello
L196[13:40:16] <Forec​aster> %sip
L197[13:40:16] <MichiBot> You drink a robust röd potion (New!). Forecaster turns into an otter unicorn girl until they have a nap.
L198[13:40:37] <Forec​aster> well, time to go home from work and then take a nap I guess
L199[13:46:59] <Lizzy> just had a momentary panic as i thought my home server's rpool was at 99.7% capacity, but it's just the cache vdev of the 8tb pool
L200[13:58:25] <Forec​aster> phew
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L202[14:47:09] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: ice miner's charged
L203[15:00:21] <Amanda> Lizzy: Apparently not entirely, but there's a fairly-comprehensive-looking guide on the KSH discord detailing all the steps nessary, suppossedly, last updated in march of this year, going to go through that now: https://discord.com/channels/125011928711036928/630756768435142668/1216395159604822106
L204[15:03:58] <Forec​aster> No access? Huh
L205[15:04:07] <Forec​aster> But I'm in the ksh discord
L206[15:07:32] <Amanda> whoops, meant to send that elsewhere, oh well
L207[15:09:54] <Lizzy> interesting, will take a look at some point
L208[15:26:42] <Amanda> Bah, the instructions don't seem to be working for me
L209[15:27:12] <Amanda> Kinda tempted to just scp the compatdata folder from my steamdeck to my laptop, since it clearly works on my steamdeck
L210[15:29:27] <Amanda> We'll see how the commandline option mentioned here helps: https://steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/6/6690735095227148059/
L211[15:29:53] <Amanda> tldr, apparently proton by default limits the number of cores it uses, there's a commandline flag to tell it "use it all, luke"
L212[15:30:07] <Lizzy> ah
L213[15:30:21] <Lizzy> wonder if that could also help other games
L214[15:30:28] <Lizzy> like CS2 maybe
L215[15:33:03] <Amanda> I suspect part of the problem I have with the commands is that newer protons don't seem to even want to launch SE for me, not even showing the splash
L216[15:33:33] <Amanda> I think it's something to do with vulkan, my laptop has no dedicated GPU, so it's possible the vulkan version it has isn't new enough
L217[15:33:48] <Amanda> Apparently proton8
L218[15:33:52] <Amanda> - requires vulkan
L219[15:34:05] <Amanda> er, vulkan 1.3
L220[15:37:00] <Lizzy> i keep thinking i should re-do my arch installs, my desktop and laptop both have installs that have been going for a while and especially my laptop has a number of random things installed that i only used once
L221[15:38:30] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> We'll see how the commandline option mentioned here helps: …
L222[15:38:31] <Flamei​ngsoul> I love that game
L223[15:38:49] <Flamei​ngsoul> Space eng nice
L224[15:52:12] <Amanda> %remindme 20m fully recharged for real now
L225[15:52:12] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "fully recharged for real now" in 20m at 05/15/2024 04:12:12 PM
L226[15:57:09] <Amanda> bah, apparently not, it's now showing 1h
L227[16:04:13] <Forec​aster> Sounds like you need to stabilise your power grid
L228[16:06:47] <Forec​aster> Construct additional pylons
L229[16:12:12] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: fully recharged for real now
L230[16:20:17] <Amanda> I think I've put my wind turbines too close together, but the overlay isn't visible unless I've got my nose right at the fucking turbine
L231[16:40:00] * Amanda offers Elfi some coffee to soak in, meows good meowning
L232[16:42:33] <Amanda> %choose try and do a sensor welder?
L233[16:42:33] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Why would you do that when you could do something else instead?
L234[16:44:55] <Amanda> Hrmhrm
L235[16:47:07] <Va​ur> %sip
L236[16:47:07] <MichiBot> You drink a tacky violium potion (New!). Vaur feels the need to use "%shell".
L237[16:57:28] <Amanda> Oh hey, the ice miner's battery is fully charged, finally
L238[17:05:45] <Amanda> Hrm
L239[17:10:01] <Forec​aster> Woo, time to drink the charged battery juice!
L240[17:12:27] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/v3/download/camnet.site/KEWIdlFFfNfhEotdHJikGgZX/sticker2114002602725266614.png
L241[17:12:57] <Forec​aster> But... juice
L242[17:13:10] <Forec​aster> Also why do you have that
L243[17:13:37] <Amanda> My keyboard on my phone generated it when I typed "Fore no!" and I decided "hecc it" and sent it
L244[17:15:53] <Mim​iru> lol
L245[17:25:58] <Forec​aster> Huh
L246[17:28:19] <Liizzi​i-chan> Ssd increase complete, though one of the fucking sata ports on the board is flaky so I gotta yank most of that out to get to it -_- https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1715794098789.jpg
L247[17:35:57] <Amanda> %choose new space station or finally build grinder pit
L248[17:35:57] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I saw that "finally build grinder pit" is the best choice in a vision
L249[18:25:42] <Forec​aster> The big question everyone's asking: Will it grind?!
L250[18:40:45] <Amanda> My flying brick is too big to fit in the 3x3 grinder pit I made...
L251[18:53:00] <Amanda> Bah, I didn't configure PAM right, so my ice miner's just digging the topsoil out and not going deep enogugh for ice
L252[19:09:45] <Corded> > <Lii​zzii> Ssd increase complete, though one of the fucking sata ports…
L253[19:09:46] <Na​dja> toe reveal! :O
L254[19:31:34] <Liizzi​i-chan> fek sake, i try not to get my limbs in photos
L255[19:35:40] <🏳🌈🇺🇦True​World🇺🇦🏳🌈> hi i dont know how to work with drone
L256[19:37:33] <🏳🌈🇺🇦True​World🇺🇦🏳🌈> it levitate a little and fall when i click on it https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1715801853313.png
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L259[19:53:16] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> Apparently proton8
L260[19:53:17] <Lili​rine> Amanda: (re proton issues) tried `PROTON_USE_WINED3D=1 %command%`?
L261[19:53:36] <Lili​rine> (in steam launch options)
L262[19:54:09] <Amanda> @Lilirine yeah that makes it work under vanilla proton, but GE is still exiting, I ran out of spoons to debug it with PROTON_LOG=1
L263[19:54:12] <Corded> > <🏳🌈🇺🇦True​World🇺🇦🏳🌈> it levitate a little and fall when i click on it
L264[19:54:13] <Lili​rine> did you put a programmed EEPROM in it
L265[19:54:43] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> @Lilirine yeah that makes it work under vanilla proton, but…
L266[19:54:43] <Lili​rine> Huh, odd. Maybe GE doesn't respect forcing wined3d
L267[19:54:44] <Amanda> Well "work" it just up and died when I tred loading my SP world
L268[19:54:55] <Amanda> Finished loading then died
L269[19:55:17] <Lili​rine> also: you don't have logs on by default?
L270[19:55:40] <Amanda> Nah, I don't want my ~ littered with .log files
L271[19:55:46] <Amanda> I try and keep my ~ clean
L272[19:55:48] <Lili​rine> Fair
L273[19:55:58] <Amanda> At least the top-level clean
L274[19:56:02] <Lili​rine> That, and some games can generate multi-GB logs
L275[19:56:14] <Lili​rine> ...and by 'some games' I mean PAYDAY 2
L276[19:56:51] <Lili​rine> speaking of keeping ~ clean: one of the reasons I dislike go is it by default uses `~/go/`
L277[19:57:01] <Amanda> GOPATH
L278[19:57:10] <Lili​rine> yeah, I was about to say at least you can change that
L279[19:57:14] <Amanda> I have GOPATH=~/Code/go
L280[19:57:18] <Lili​rine> snap doesn't even offer that (not that arch has snap)
L281[19:57:53] <Lili​rine> I have (alongside the standard folders) `~/Development` and `~/Other/`
L282[19:58:45] <Lili​rine> Hm. It's just occured to me I don't need a folder containing parts of an HDD backup if I have a tar of said backup
L283[19:59:13] <Lili​rine> (the tar came after the folder, mind)
L284[20:00:11] <Lili​rine> `ratarmount` my beloved
L285[20:13:39] <Corded> > <Lili​rine> did you put a programmed EEPROM in it
L286[20:13:39] <🏳🌈🇺🇦True​World🇺🇦🏳🌈> EEPROM Lua BIOS
L287[20:14:03] <Lili​rine> <:harold:1215152671279939675>
L288[20:14:06] <Lili​rine> that's why
L289[20:14:25] <Lili​rine> drones only have an EEPROM for execution
L290[20:14:41] <Lili​rine> so anything you write has to go on there
L291[20:15:35] <Lili​rine> you can use something like `crunch` (see forums) to compress it
L292[20:15:44] <Lili​rine> or netboot it via a network card
L293[20:15:58] <Lili​rine> but you still have to write a loader even if you netboot
L294[20:16:17] <Lili​rine> drones aren't like robots - they're designed to be single-purpose
L295[20:16:32] <Lili​rine> flying microcontrollers, pretty much
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L297[20:17:06] <OC> chello yellow hello!
L298[20:17:20] <Corded> > <Lili​rine> flying microcontrollers, pretty much
L299[20:17:20] <Lili​rine> for more info see ocdoc
L300[20:17:28] <Lili​rine> https://ocdoc.cil.li/component:drone and https://ocdoc.cil.li/item:drone
L301[20:17:54] <Lili​rine> hmm... I wonder if drones can mine?
L302[20:18:15] <OC> can't you have micro computers and drones be controlled via tablet
L303[20:18:34] <Lili​rine> if you write something for it, absolutely
L304[20:19:35] <OC> neat
L305[20:20:13] <Corded> > <Lili​rine> flying microcontrollers, pretty much
L306[20:20:13] <🏳🌈🇺🇦True​World🇺🇦🏳🌈> how i do anything that you said? because it crash instantly
L307[20:20:28] <🏳🌈🇺🇦True​World🇺🇦🏳🌈> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1715804428447.png
L308[20:20:51] <Amanda> Write code to do it, the default lua bios eeprom won't work on a drone
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L310[20:21:36] <lily> Normally I whack together something out of the decaying corpse of Izzy's skex-BIOS
L311[20:22:04] <Izzy> what a terrible name, who would call their software that? what an idiot
L312[20:22:21] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> Write code to do it, the default lua bios eeprom won't work…
L313[20:22:22] <🏳🌈🇺🇦True​World🇺🇦🏳🌈> ok but on what? and how i put the support of my code into drone?
L314[20:22:33] <lily> I don't think anyone actually remembers what skex even stands for
L315[20:22:41] <lily> Also: You craft the drone together with the EEPROM in a table
L316[20:22:57] <lily> I think OpenOS has something to flash eeproms
L317[20:23:06] <lily> There's also an eeprom component
L318[20:23:16] <Corded> > <li​ly> Also: You craft the drone together with the EEPROM in a tab…
L319[20:23:17] <🏳🌈🇺🇦True​World🇺🇦🏳🌈> i have already put the drone on ground and i dont know how to grab it to item
L320[20:23:25] <Izzy> see the `flash` program
L321[20:23:49] <Izzy> lily: I have enough cursed bullshit I can probably netboot OpenOS on a drone nowadays
L322[20:24:04] <lily> oh?
L323[20:24:10] <lily> How would that even work
L324[20:24:38] <OC> eeprom has less storage than teir 1 dont it?
L325[20:24:39] <Izzy> vcomponent at the BIOS level, use mtrpc to mount a remote filesystem
L326[20:24:45] <lily> eeproms are 4KB
L327[20:24:54] <Izzy> boot it from the vcomponent filesystem as normal
L328[20:25:04] <lily> tools exist to compress them a little bit (like crunch), but you can only get so much out of LZ77
L329[20:25:25] <lily> See https://oc.cil.li/topic/511-crunch-break-the-4k-limit/
L330[20:25:44] <lily> oh hey, https://i.imgur.com/VYmv4kf.png
L331[20:26:06] <OC> wait another method could be wireless network card or linked card to a server/computer with open OS and whatnot listening in
L332[20:26:15] <lily> Yup, that works too
L333[20:26:21] <lily> Linked cards won't fit in a drone though
L334[20:26:26] <lily> I don't think you can get T3 card slots
L335[20:26:37] <lily> But you can certainly netboot
L336[20:26:44] <Izzy> hmm, that's something I should cook up
L337[20:26:45] <lily> Remember - you don't get any libraries OpenOS has
L338[20:26:53] <OC> wireless are t1 or t2 cards
L339[20:26:57] <OC> linked are also t2
L340[20:27:05] <Izzy> use mtrpc to export all the components in a drone/uC
L341[20:27:13] <lily> So no `event`, no fancy `component` sugar
L342[20:27:25] <lily> `component` exists but things like `component.modem` are OpenOS sugar
L343[20:27:33] <Izzy> so you can remotely import them on a machine with an OS
L344[20:27:44] <lily> what even is mtrpc?
L345[20:27:53] <Izzy> minitel RPC
L346[20:27:59] <lily> ah
L347[20:28:14] <OC> hehe i just had a really dumb idea
L348[20:28:24] <OC> internet cards are T2
L349[20:28:48] <Izzy> see https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-Minitel/tree/master/RPC/OpenOS
L350[20:29:56] <lily> Oh yes, speaking of Minitel: https://i.imgur.com/QxNUJo6.jpeg
L351[20:30:24] <Izzy> used for fun stuff like component sharing over the network, remote inventory system access, an NFS equivalent, and generally plumbing anything that you don't want to write a whole protocol for
L352[20:30:28] <OC> ima log out for a while, adios yall
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L354[20:30:29] <Izzy> no way
L355[20:30:43] <lily> there's also a motel called minitel where I used to live
L356[20:32:28] * CompanionCube tried and failed to come up with 'macrotel' meaning something
L357[20:33:44] <Izzy> macrotel is the floppy disk containing all the minitel packages
L358[20:33:45] * Izzy nods
L359[20:34:44] <lily> Hm. Apparently updating OC mid-game-run causes it to freak out
L360[20:55:08] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime?
L361[20:55:08] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I don't think I've heard of "laptopnaptime", so probably not.
L362[20:57:06] <Amanda> Selective memory, I shall let the laptop nap
L363[20:57:18] * Amanda curls up around Elfi with her steamdeck, continues tutting about in space
L364[21:01:47] <Amanda> Now...
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L367[21:33:39] <lily> can you send a wireless modem message to a specific address?
L368[21:33:43] <lily> or is `send` only wired
L369[21:45:32] <Izzy> you can send with wireless cards
L370[21:53:08] <lily> thanks
L371[22:18:28] <lily> finished my netbooter, now I can work on the original proje- what do you mean I don't actually remember what I initially wanted to do?
L372[22:18:58] <lily> admittedly it's probably a little overcomplicated
L373[22:19:02] <lily> but, it's <2KB so
L374[22:19:41] <lily> which... is kind of funny, given (somehow) skex is 3834b
L375[22:21:53] <lily> though, to be fair, mine doesn't have any of the fancier features
L376[22:35:27] <Corded> > <🏳🌈🇺🇦True​World🇺🇦🏳🌈> i have already put the drone on ground and i dont know how …
L377[22:35:27] <Lili​rine> Oh, I didn't see this. Uh, scrench
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L379[23:21:55] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster with mutable potion
L380[23:21:56] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable silver potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a transparent dryad boy until someone stops looking at them.
L381[23:26:30] <Amanda> Hrmhrm
L382[23:30:16] <Flamei​ngsoul> %tonk
L383[23:30:17] <MichiBot> Flamei​ngsoul: You should probably read this: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L384[23:30:23] <Flamei​ngsoul> Darn
L385[23:30:39] <Flamei​ngsoul> %tonk 63A45
L386[23:30:39] <MichiBot> Flamei​ngsoul: You should probably read this: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L387[23:31:10] <Flamei​ngsoul> %tonk BE485
L388[23:31:11] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Flameingsoul, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 11 hours, 10 minutes and 47 seconds this time. 10 hours, 45 minutes and 8 seconds were wasted! Missed by 25 minutes and 38 seconds!
L389[23:31:18] <Mim​iru> The code changes, but it's n..
L390[23:31:19] <Mim​iru> nvm
L391[23:31:22] <Flamei​ngsoul> Darn
L392[23:32:42] <lunar_sam> i had a cool multi-function BIOS
L393[23:32:46] <lunar_sam> have, even
L394[23:34:42] <lunar_sam> oh what the hell
L395[23:35:00] <lunar_sam> it can even grab a file from frequest to boot
L396[23:35:03] <lunar_sam> i forgot i did that
L397[23:35:30] <lunar_sam> why haven't i posted more about this
L398[23:37:25] <lunar_sam> https://github.com/lunaboards-dev/ziptie lol
L399[23:37:53] <Amanda> Now to read the %oclogs and see what terrible things fore said about me
L400[23:37:55] <MichiBot> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/?dir=logs/%23oc
L401[23:40:49] <Amanda> Surprisingly nothing!
L402[23:45:13] <lunar_sam> i forgot to push some fixes last time lol
L403[23:45:21] <lunar_sam> mostly to the tape reading
L404[23:46:00] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/mbojqXmt7D2ncIoWGDXqXC3rSKlNcPYV267ZhpR0/0561e057-95ea-4fb1-9cee-1d34c0ea571f.png
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