L1[00:18:48] 
<Mimiru>
Anyone ever have AE2's autocrafting just... dumb? I have a pattern
for 1 kelp = 1 dried kelp, I have a pattern provider outputting to
a chest. I request 10 dried kelp, I get 8 kelp in my chest. if I
request 1 I get 0, If I request 2, I get 1, 3 gets 1, 4 gets me 2,
5 gets 3 etc...
<Mimiru>
Anyone ever have AE2's autocrafting just... dumb? I have a pattern
for 1 kelp = 1 dried kelp, I have a pattern provider outputting to
a chest. I request 10 dried kelp, I get 8 kelp in my chest. if I
request 1 I get 0, If I request 2, I get 1, 3 gets 1, 4 gets me 2,
5 gets 3 etc...L2[00:19:06] <Mimiru>
Now.. it APPEARS that all of the kelp is being removed, but it just
gets... lost?
<Mimiru>
Now.. it APPEARS that all of the kelp is being removed, but it just
gets... lost?L3[00:19:46] <Mimiru>
315 kelp -> request 10 dried kelp, 305 kelp but only 8 in my
chest'
<Mimiru>
315 kelp -> request 10 dried kelp, 305 kelp but only 8 in my
chest'L4[00:27:05] <Amanda> Anything that could be
pulling from the chest that you're not expecting? Misconfigured
multi-route item connector?
L5[00:28:07] <Mimiru> I
removed the funnles, there is nothing else touching this chest. and
nothing else is doing anything on this network, it's my crafting
CPU, my pattern provider, my storage drives, and this chest on top
of the pattern provider
<Mimiru> I
removed the funnles, there is nothing else touching this chest. and
nothing else is doing anything on this network, it's my crafting
CPU, my pattern provider, my storage drives, and this chest on top
of the pattern providerL6[00:28:41] <Amanda> Alternately check with
a pattern terminal for other recipes?
L7[00:29:16] <Mimiru>
There is a single pattern in this network, kelp -> dried
kelp
<Mimiru>
There is a single pattern in this network, kelp -> dried
kelpL9[00:29:59] <Amanda> No idea then, I'm
getting too eepy to think much more sorry
L10[00:30:47] <Amanda> Are there any other
inventories next to the pagan provider?
L11[00:31:56] <Amanda> I saw that topy, but
thought it's more fun to not fix it
L12[00:32:13] <Mimiru>
Not directly adjacent There is a chest 3 blocks away
<Mimiru>
Not directly adjacent There is a chest 3 blocks awayL13[00:32:16] <Mimiru>
but it too is empty
<Mimiru>
but it too is emptyL14[00:33:22] <Mimiru> OH
WAIT WHAT
<Mimiru> OH
WAIT WHATL15[00:33:29] <Mimiru>
..........
<Mimiru>
..........L16[00:33:51] <Mimiru>
The FUCKING BELT
<Mimiru>
The FUCKING BELTL17[00:34:03] <Amanda> Ahhh yeah
L18[00:34:14] <Amanda> They function as
inventories
L19[00:34:52] <Amanda> You can even put
andesite funnels against them to pull items out
L20[00:35:40] <Amanda> Against their sides
that is
L21[00:36:11] <Mimiru>
yeah it was
<Mimiru>
yeah it wasL22[00:36:12] <Mimiru>
Belt---Provider----Belt
<Mimiru>
Belt---Provider----BeltL23[00:36:16] <Mimiru>
with the chest on top of the provider
<Mimiru>
with the chest on top of the providerL24[00:36:47] <Mimiru>
The left belt was stealing them and then they were getting blasted
by lava so POOF
<Mimiru>
The left belt was stealing them and then they were getting blasted
by lava so POOFL25[00:37:05] <Amanda> You can turn it into
a multi block primer instead and it'll only go to the attached
side
L26[00:37:31] <Mimiru> I
just moved the provider up and behind the chest
<Mimiru> I
just moved the provider up and behind the chestL27[00:41:19] <Mimiru>
Well, good to know I don't even NEED the chest as a buffer then..
lol
<Mimiru>
Well, good to know I don't even NEED the chest as a buffer then..
lolL28[00:47:02] *
Amanda curls up in @Mimiru's lap with a fairy backpack, does a
heccen zzzearflick
L29[00:47:19] <Amanda> Eepy levels
critical, activating floof mode
L30[00:47:22] <Amanda> Night girls
L31[00:49:06] <Mimiru>
Night Amanda thanks
<Mimiru>
Night Amanda thanksL32[05:23:39] <Vaur>
%tonkout
<Vaur>
%tonkoutL33[05:23:41] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Vaur,
you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 12 hours, 23 minutes
and 15 seconds this time. 12 hours, 21 minutes and 47 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 1 minute and 28 seconds!
L34[05:23:51] <Vaur>
rip
<Vaur>
ripL35[05:27:28] <Spider
EveryOS> Oof
<Spider
EveryOS> OofL36[06:25:14] ⇨
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L40[11:00:52] *
Amanda meows and looks around
L41[11:06:13] <Spider
EveryOS> hears meow, meows back
<Spider
EveryOS> hears meow, meows backL42[11:09:01] *
Amanda looks around for where Elfi went during last night's
adventure, keeps finding paper cutout Elfis
L43[12:27:12] *
Amanda finds elfi still sleepy-clinging to her back, settles down
to protecc
L44[13:00:31] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL45[13:00:33] <MichiBot> You drink a soft
tuna potion (New!). Forecaster has a single tear roll down their
cheek for some reason.
L46[13:01:03] <Forecaster> It's because I just drank
soft tuna...
<Forecaster> It's because I just drank
soft tuna...L47[13:03:35] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster
with mutable tuna potion
L48[13:03:35] <MichiBot> You fling a
mutable tuna potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster.
@Forecaster turns into a purple sword until hell celebrates
midsummer.
L49[13:10:49] <Forecaster> D:<
<Forecaster> D:<L50[13:25:28] ⇨
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L51[13:40:59] <S3>
Dinosaurs!
<S3>
Dinosaurs!L53[13:41:07] <S3> First
one is out
<S3> First
one is outL54[14:07:30] <Amanda> Yaass queen
L55[14:07:59] <Amanda> Tell them they're
very brave, coming out in this political climate
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L57[14:15:06] <Amanda> %choose cubes or try
and be productive first
L58[14:15:06] <MichiBot> Amanda: I sense
some "cubes" in your future!
L59[14:15:38] <Amanda> But _how soon_ in
the future?
L60[14:16:16] *
Amanda decides updating her distrobox containers counts as
"being productive"
L61[14:16:33] <Amanda> Hopefully the alpine
one will actually be working again
L62[14:20:50] <Amanda> Nope. su: failed to
execute /usr/bin/fish: Bad address
L63[14:34:37] <Forecaster> Neo dinosaurs
<Forecaster> Neo dinosaursL64[14:34:55] <Forecaster> And dinosaurs are
proto-chickens
<Forecaster> And dinosaurs are
proto-chickensL66[16:41:13] <Amanda> Does anything appear
in the terminal running the program?
L67[16:41:59] <Amanda> AllI can think, with
no IR knowledge, is that "pad.horn()" is erroring becasue
it expects an argument that you're only providing in the second
call
L68[16:42:26] <Amanda> But that should
print something to the terminal, or "/tmp/error.log" if
it's in a rc.d service or si,milar
L69[16:50:57] <Yabe_uke>
No, no, there are no errors
<Yabe_uke>
No, no, there are no errorsL70[16:51:03] <Yabe_uke>
The code runs fine, just as expected
<Yabe_uke>
The code runs fine, just as expectedL71[16:51:09] <Yabe_uke>
Sometimes computers just stop
<Yabe_uke>
Sometimes computers just stopL72[16:51:42] <Yabe_uke>
pad.horn() is just "blow the horn"
<Yabe_uke>
pad.horn() is just "blow the horn"L73[16:52:02] <Yabe_uke>
I then stop it with pad.horn(0), and all that works as
expected
<Yabe_uke>
I then stop it with pad.horn(0), and all that works as
expectedL74[16:56:05] <Yabe_uke>
I will recheck IR's wiki just in case, but the trains can make a
couple of loops before they start experiencing this issue.
<Yabe_uke>
I will recheck IR's wiki just in case, but the trains can make a
couple of loops before they start experiencing this issue.L75[16:56:13] <Yabe_uke>
Well, sometimes
<Yabe_uke>
Well, sometimesL76[16:56:20] <Yabe_uke>
As I said, it's quite random somehow
<Yabe_uke>
As I said, it's quite random somehowL77[17:01:48] <Forecaster> By stop, do you mean the
computer is just suddenly off but the screen is showing the last
thing that was on it?
<Forecaster> By stop, do you mean the
computer is just suddenly off but the screen is showing the last
thing that was on it?L78[17:02:02] <Forecaster> @Yabe_uke
<Forecaster> @Yabe_ukeL79[17:05:56] <Yabe_uke>
No, they just kind stop. No errors on the screen, no signs of a
freeze. It's like game simulation stopped wich is weird because not
only I have chunkloaders on the computers, the trains have their
own chunkloader. They just seem to not work, but in-game they
report as fully working. The rest of the world keeps working like
normal
<Yabe_uke>
No, they just kind stop. No errors on the screen, no signs of a
freeze. It's like game simulation stopped wich is weird because not
only I have chunkloaders on the computers, the trains have their
own chunkloader. They just seem to not work, but in-game they
report as fully working. The rest of the world keeps working like
normalL80[17:05:56] <Corded> though.
L81[17:06:27] <Yabe_uke>
They do not turn off
<Yabe_uke>
They do not turn offL82[17:06:49] <Yabe_uke>
Analyzer sees nothing on them
<Yabe_uke>
Analyzer sees nothing on themL83[17:08:00] <Forecaster> If you hit the power button
do they boot up again?
<Forecaster> If you hit the power button
do they boot up again?L84[17:08:41] <Yabe_uke>
Nope, they turnoff because they were already on
<Yabe_uke>
Nope, they turnoff because they were already onL85[17:08:41] <Forecaster> There's a known long standing
bug with that
<Forecaster> There's a known long standing
bug with thatL86[17:09:00] <Forecaster> That's different I think, but
it might be a similar issue
<Forecaster> That's different I think, but
it might be a similar issueL87[17:09:10] <Forecaster> Try disabling
persistence
<Forecaster> Try disabling
persistenceL88[17:09:49] <Yabe_uke>
That would mean chunkloaders would be mandatory to keep them alive,
right?
<Yabe_uke>
That would mean chunkloaders would be mandatory to keep them alive,
right?L89[17:10:19] <Forecaster> If that's necessary yes
<Forecaster> If that's necessary yesL90[17:10:38] <Forecaster> Otherwise they will just boot
up when loaded
<Forecaster> Otherwise they will just boot
up when loadedL91[17:11:19] <Amanda> A chunkloader would
be nesseary anyway, they're put to suspended and put to sleep when
their chunk is unloadded
L92[17:11:31] <Amanda> disabling
persistance just changes that into a poweroff instead
L93[17:11:39] <Yabe_uke>
Ah, I see
<Yabe_uke>
Ah, I seeL94[17:12:12] <Forecaster> Yes
<Forecaster> YesL95[17:12:48] <Forecaster> Persistence doesn't allow
computers to stay loaded if the chunk is unloaded
<Forecaster> Persistence doesn't allow
computers to stay loaded if the chunk is unloadedL96[17:13:45] <Forecaster> That would be
witchcraft
<Forecaster> That would be
witchcraftL97[17:15:35] <Yabe_uke>
Indeed it would
<Yabe_uke>
Indeed it wouldL98[17:50:08] <Diatlov>
hello
<Diatlov>
helloL99[17:51:15] <Diatlov>
everytime i remove/place a HDD from a server it wipe all the data
into it. Is this normal? (sorry for bad english)
<Diatlov>
everytime i remove/place a HDD from a server it wipe all the data
into it. Is this normal? (sorry for bad english)L100[17:53:54] <Amanda> If you're using a
RAID, yes
L101[17:54:06] <Amanda> RAIDs wipe all
data whenever a disk is added or removed
L102[17:55:40] <Diatlov>
no it isn't a raid
<Diatlov>
no it isn't a raidL103[17:56:03] <Diatlov> i
use these servers for mining netcoin
<Diatlov> i
use these servers for mining netcoinL104[17:56:22] <Diatlov>
the miners disk are all the same id,cause i copied the disk
<Diatlov>
the miners disk are all the same id,cause i copied the diskL105[17:56:37] <Diatlov>
(because it has miner program on boot)
<Diatlov>
(because it has miner program on boot)L106[17:56:48] <Diatlov>
and i have nearly 50 servers
<Diatlov>
and i have nearly 50 serversL107[17:58:01] <Amanda> Then no that's
probably not normal
L108[17:59:29] <Diatlov>
what should i do?
<Diatlov>
what should i do?L109[18:00:03] <Diatlov>
dont really want to lose my 924 NTC Wallet in a multiplayer
server
<Diatlov>
dont really want to lose my 924 NTC Wallet in a multiplayer
serverL110[18:00:12] <Diatlov> *
924.4 NTC Wallet in a multiplayer server
<Diatlov> *
924.4 NTC Wallet in a multiplayer serverL111[18:01:04] <Forecaster> if you copy a disk both disks
will be the same disk
<Forecaster> if you copy a disk both disks
will be the same diskL112[18:01:12] <Forecaster> you're not supposed to do
that
<Forecaster> you're not supposed to do
thatL113[18:01:52] <Vaur>
%tonkout
<Vaur>
%tonkoutL114[18:01:53] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
Vaur! You beat your own previous record of 12 hours, 23 minutes
and 15 seconds (By 14 minutes and 56 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L115[18:01:54] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.012 tonk points! plus 0.022
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.4263, Position
#1
L116[18:02:27] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> you're not supposed to do that
L117[18:02:28] <Diatlov>
why am i not supposed to do that?
<Diatlov>
why am i not supposed to do that?L118[18:03:12] <Diatlov> I
just dont want to copy content 50 time so i copy
<Diatlov> I
just dont want to copy content 50 time so i copyL119[18:03:13] <Forecaster> ...because you might get
weird issues like what you're experiencing?
<Forecaster> ...because you might get
weird issues like what you're experiencing?L120[18:03:23] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> ...because you might get weird issues like what
you're expe…
L121[18:03:23] <Diatlov>
oh ok then
<Diatlov>
oh ok thenL122[18:03:43] <Corded> >
<Diatlov> dont really want to lose my 924.4 NTC Wallet in a
multiplay…
L123[18:03:43] <Vaur> you
are supposed to keep your crypto in a place which you control
<Vaur> you
are supposed to keep your crypto in a place which you controlL124[18:03:51] <Vaur> not
in a random minecraft server
<Vaur> not
in a random minecraft serverL125[18:04:05] <Corded> > <Vaur>
not in a random minecraft server
L126[18:04:05] <Diatlov>
its a friend server
<Diatlov>
its a friend serverL127[18:04:11] <Diatlov>
and its fake crypto
<Diatlov>
and its fake cryptoL128[18:04:12] <Amanda> @Vaur I'm guessing
it's some silly minecraft "crypto" in-game
L129[18:04:30] <Vaur>
oh
<Vaur>
ohL130[18:04:41] <Vaur> well
... nevermind then 😄
<Vaur> well
... nevermind then 😄L131[18:04:47] <Vaur>
didn't know it was a thing
<Vaur>
didn't know it was a thingL132[18:04:52] <Corded> >
<Amanda> @Vaur I'm guessing it's some silly minecraft
"crypto" in-ga…
L133[18:04:52] <Diatlov>
yes, from
[this](oc.cil.li/topic/2283-wip-netcoin-a-fully-working-cryptocurrency-made-for-opencomputers)
<Diatlov>
yes, from
[this](oc.cil.li/topic/2283-wip-netcoin-a-fully-working-cryptocurrency-made-for-opencomputers)L134[18:04:58] <Forecaster> I'd ask how you're able to
copy disks on a multiplayer server, but I also don't particularly
care
<Forecaster> I'd ask how you're able to
copy disks on a multiplayer server, but I also don't particularly
careL135[18:05:06] <Diatlov> *
oc.cil.li/topic/2283-wip-netcoin-a-fully-working-cryptocurrency-made-for-opencomputers)
<Diatlov> *
oc.cil.li/topic/2283-wip-netcoin-a-fully-working-cryptocurrency-made-for-opencomputers)L136[18:05:09] <Diatlov> *
oc.cil.li/topic/2283-wip-netcoin-a-fully-working-cryptocurrency-made-for-opencomputers
<Diatlov> *
oc.cil.li/topic/2283-wip-netcoin-a-fully-working-cryptocurrency-made-for-opencomputersL138[18:05:36] <Corded> > <Vaur>
https://tenor.com/view/nacho-why-confused-jack-black-gif-87���
L139[18:05:36] <Diatlov>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<Diatlov>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯L140[18:05:51] <Forecaster> as is the answer to a lot of
things, entertainment
<Forecaster> as is the answer to a lot of
things, entertainmentL141[18:06:07] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> I'd ask how you're able to copy disks on a
multiplayer serv…
L142[18:06:07] <Diatlov>
creative mode, we really dont care about that we are just doing a
competition
<Diatlov>
creative mode, we really dont care about that we are just doing a
competitionL143[18:59:47] <Kristopher38> @Yabe_uke if this is
reproducible you might want to report reproduction steps here,
seems related https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/3495
<Kristopher38> @Yabe_uke if this is
reproducible you might want to report reproduction steps here,
seems related https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/3495L144[18:59:48] <MichiBot> Title: OC
computer crashes | Posted by: jiva2404 | Posted: Wed
Jan 19 20:18:34 UTC 2022 | Status: open
L145[19:05:10] <Corded> >
<Kristopher38> @Yabe_uke if this is reproducible you might
want to report …
L146[19:05:10] <Yabe_uke>
Thank you, I'll check it out and recheck code
<Yabe_uke>
Thank you, I'll check it out and recheck codeL147[19:43:35] <Spider
EveryOS> I have some crazy OC ideas, if I ever get around to
them
<Spider
EveryOS> I have some crazy OC ideas, if I ever get around to
themL148[19:43:36] <Spider
EveryOS> Also, I should probably finish that X11 client I fhad
started writing at some point... but it works enough. Who needs
text or user input, pfft
<Spider
EveryOS> Also, I should probably finish that X11 client I fhad
started writing at some point... but it works enough. Who needs
text or user input, pfftL149[19:55:40]
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L151[20:04:30] <Forecaster> I doubt they're that
crazy
<Forecaster> I doubt they're that
crazyL152[20:06:50] <⚧ Emily>
<a:pineapple_squish_hq:1187785804634923028>
<⚧ Emily>
<a:pineapple_squish_hq:1187785804634923028>L153[20:07:06] <Amanda> a pineapple squish
hq to you too
L154[20:07:18] <⚧ Emily>
heh
<⚧ Emily>
hehL155[20:07:34] <⚧ Emily> I
have worse
<⚧ Emily> I
have worseL156[20:07:37] <⚧ Emily>
<:the_fuck:1217275144980926474>
<⚧ Emily>
<:the_fuck:1217275144980926474>L157[20:07:54] <Amanda> It's just the
shortcode across the bridge, plus the id
L158[20:07:57] <⚧ Emily>
Not sure if it propetly displays for you
<⚧ Emily>
Not sure if it propetly displays for youL159[20:08:00] <⚧ Emily>
oh
<⚧ Emily>
ohL160[20:08:28] <⚧ Emily>
basically it's a really zoomed in jellycat-branded "pain au
chocolat" plush
<⚧ Emily>
basically it's a really zoomed in jellycat-branded "pain au
chocolat" plushL161[20:08:44] <⚧ Emily>
it's face, when this close, looks like it's judging you
<⚧ Emily>
it's face, when this close, looks like it's judging youL162[20:09:13] <Spider
EveryOS> It looks like a pumpkin with a face tbh
<Spider
EveryOS> It looks like a pumpkin with a face tbhL163[20:09:28] <Corded> > <Spider
EveryOS> It looks like a pumpkin with a face tbh
L164[20:09:28] <⚧ Emily>
that's the first once
<⚧ Emily>
that's the first onceL165[20:09:32] <⚧ Emily>
one*
<⚧ Emily>
one*L166[20:09:48] <Spider
EveryOS> Ah
<Spider
EveryOS> AhL167[20:09:57] <⚧ Emily>
Not sure if imaages display on the IRC
<⚧ Emily>
Not sure if imaages display on the IRCL168[20:10:31] <Spider
EveryOS> As Amanda mentioned, emojis show the ID. I believe
actual image uploads get converted to a link??
<Spider
EveryOS> As Amanda mentioned, emojis show the ID. I believe
actual image uploads get converted to a link??L169[20:10:57] <Amanda> image uploads
work
L170[20:11:05] <Amanda> emojo don't get
converted (yet?)
L171[20:11:06] <⚧ Emily>
oh, good news then
<⚧ Emily>
oh, good news thenL172[20:11:31] <⚧ Emily>
this is the "pain au chocolat" i was talking about
https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1712866291159.png
<⚧ Emily>
this is the "pain au chocolat" i was talking about
https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1712866291159.pngL173[20:11:48] <Amanda> Michiyo was
considering making emojo turn into links as well
L174[20:12:09] <Michiyo> That proved to be
difficult.
L175[20:12:25] <⚧ Emily>
ah, i see
<⚧ Emily>
ah, i seeL176[20:12:36] <⚧ Emily>
Well, it is an IRC, right?
<⚧ Emily>
Well, it is an IRC, right?L177[20:14:50]
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L180[20:20:39] <Amanda> Bye
L181[20:20:48] *
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butterfly
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L183[21:26:50] <Amanda> I've got to figure
out why my tablet keeps shutting itself off only when the battery
is totally depleted
L184[21:44:15] <Corded> > <Spider
EveryOS> I have some crazy OC ideas, if I ever get around to
them
L185[21:44:15] <Corded> Al…
L186[21:44:16] <Kristopher38> care to share your
ideas?
<Kristopher38> care to share your
ideas?L187[21:47:38] <Spider
EveryOS> Not rn
<Spider
EveryOS> Not rnL188[21:52:31] <Izzy> "Elaborate on
that." "No."
L189[22:00:41] <Amanda> Honestly, I'm here
for that.
L190[22:00:43] <Spider
EveryOS> I don't want to share them until I have decent
progress on them
<Spider
EveryOS> I don't want to share them until I have decent
progress on themL191[22:01:06] <Amanda> %choose
laptopnaptime?
L192[22:01:06] <MichiBot> Amanda: What
even is that? Oh right, sure!
L193[22:01:14] *
Amanda nods sagely
L194[22:02:47] <Kristopher38> Fair
<Kristopher38> FairL195[22:02:49] ⇦
Quits: Vexatos
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(Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)