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L1[00:03:27] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@p200300eaef07390071779e3af106ec69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L2[00:04:52] <Kristo​pher38> Izzy: couldn't fit it in one frame https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1699488291311.JPG https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1699488292013.JPG
L3[00:05:14] <Kristo​pher38> also: https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1699488313990.JPG
L4[00:05:23] <Izzy> looks like it's off the top of an oil rig
L5[00:05:39] <Kristo​pher38> lol
L6[00:05:50] <Amanda> Hrmhrm
L7[00:06:34] <Amanda> I don't think it'd be overly hard to design a custom board for my tablet to let it use a usb-c port instead. https://www.ifixit.com/products/nexus-7-1st-gen-charging-assembly-and-headphone-jack There doesn't appear to be any chips on the board anyway, so I think it just breaksout the ribbon cable
L8[00:07:17] <Amanda> ( In a remote corner of AUS, Izzy died a little inside )
L9[00:08:46] <Liizzii> hmm, i need to develop a way to automatically have the logs and stuff from kismet uploaded to some always-on computer to process through them when my pi checks in, and then notify me / send me the results
L10[00:09:20] <Izzy> Amanda: poor tablet, it won't be able to make any friends
L11[00:11:41] <Liizzii> also annoyingly only one of the captures i did today got any gps data
L12[00:11:54] <Liizzii> and it happens to be the biggest one
L13[00:13:04] <Amanda> Might be a nice project in the future, in the mean time I'll order a replacement board off EBay to fix it, because I'm not sure it's actually the battery that's causing the charging problems, but the port might be lose
L14[00:13:15] <Liizzii> overall a successful first day of wardriving i think
L15[00:13:57] * Amanda hooks a piece of thermite up to a bt scanner near Liizzii's computer, setup to listen for Tazer Inc BTLE bracons
L16[00:14:02] <Amanda> beacons
L17[00:14:33] <Liizzii> well, a small bit of war-walking and then war-train'ing (though i don't think the gps module had any signal when i was on the train...)
L18[00:15:27] <Amanda> Really weird how many "Brand New" parts for this tablet are for sale on ebay from the UK
L19[00:16:29] <Liizzii> interestingly, this kismetdb_to_<thing> tool seems to max whatever core it's running in but is 75% in kernel land. i guess it's cause it's re-emulating the packets captured
L20[00:17:18] <Liizzii> meh, will need to process this file later, bed time for me now
L21[00:17:42] * Amanda meows goodnight to Liizzii
L22[00:19:13] * Liizzii gives Amanda scritches before she sleeps
L23[00:19:27] * Amanda purrs softly, cancels the nightmare she scheduled for Liizzii's dreams
L24[00:21:13] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> Better watchou for @AR2000
L25[00:21:13] <AR2​000> Be careful. This french guy doesn't sleep
L26[00:35:36] <AR2​000> *dream about drunk printers*
L27[01:07:30] <Amanda> %choose halucinate or continue failing to be productive
L28[01:07:30] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: The proof is in the pudding. Definitely "continue failing to be productive". Hm, this is surprisingly good...
L29[01:33:46] <Amanda> Hrm, maybe it is the battery
L30[01:46:22] <Amanda> "/sys/class/power_supply/smb347-usb/status" was saying "Charging" but "/sys/class/power_supply/bq27541-0/status" was saying "Discharging"
L31[03:00:11] <Schne​eWolf> i do not have a single clue how this mod works
L32[03:00:23] <Schne​eWolf> could anyone guide me to making a tree farm with a robot
L33[03:00:42] <Schne​eWolf> this is my only hope cuz theres no other way to automatically break things in the modpack im playing
L34[03:02:02] <CompanionCube> maybe someone already wrote a tree farm program?
L35[03:05:43] <Schne​eWolf> ah i found one thank you
L36[03:08:56] <Schne​eWolf> actually no that was CC
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L38[04:00:50] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime?
L39[04:00:51] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Are you sure? Well alright.
L40[04:01:21] <Amanda> No, I'm not sure, I'm Amanda.
L41[04:01:31] <Amanda> %choose waves; em or pressure
L42[04:01:32] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: pressure waves
L43[04:01:44] * Amanda snuggles up around Elfi, plays a podcast
L44[04:06:53] <walks​anator> %tonk
L45[04:06:54] <MichiBot> Woah! walks​anator! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 12 hours, 2 minutes and 53 seconds (By 3 hours, 17 minutes and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L46[04:06:55] <MichiBot> walksanator's new record is 15 hours, 20 minutes and 48 seconds! walksanator also gained 0.0429 (0.0033 x 13) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #17 => #14. (Overtook Logos) Need 0.00771121 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
L47[04:22:17] <Forec​aster> %sip
L48[04:22:18] <MichiBot> You drink a soft sky potion (New!). Everything Forecaster says is now in Wingdings until the next time they hug someone.
L49[05:49:48] <walks​anator> %sip
L50[05:49:49] <MichiBot> You drink a dotted aluminium potion (New!). walksanator briefly feel like they have just stepped out of a car.
L51[06:08:43] <Amanda> %choose zzzmews time?
L52[06:08:43] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I talked to the Swedish Chef, he said "Bork bork!" I think that means yes?
L53[06:08:51] <Amanda> Okay
L54[06:08:57] <Amanda> Night girls
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L56[07:55:30] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
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L58[12:43:33] <Izzy> turns out my drive boot EEPROM can't boot OpenOS
L59[12:43:50] <Izzy> because OpenOS removes `component` from _G
L60[12:53:16] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> turns out my drive boot EEPROM can't boot OpenOS
L61[12:53:16] <AR2​000> `local component = _G.component` in the EEPROM so it never gets deleted from it's environment. And load the OS in a new environment
L62[12:53:22] <AR2​000> * its environment. And load the OS in a new environment
L63[12:53:26] <Izzy> yeah I fixed it
L64[12:53:29] <Izzy> it's just silly
L65[12:53:47] <Izzy> means I can make it slightly smaller too, because I can :%s/component/co/g
L66[12:58:23] <Liizzii> https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/08/europe_eidas_browser/ I can't see any downsides to this, I mean, you can always trust the government, right? They wouldn't be easilly bribed, right?
L67[13:02:02] <Liizzii> kinda scary that this is the EU proposing this, usually the US is making headlines with these sorts of stunts
L68[13:14:48] <S​3> Hm. I wonder though how that will work with tls1.3
L69[13:16:06] <Liizzii> is TLS1.3 majorly different than prior versions if a cert is just signed with a different root ca?
L70[13:28:13] <S​3> I need to read more to figure out how this really works, butTLS 1.3 basically obsoletes deep packet inspection, and a lot of dpi works that way.
L71[13:31:04] <S​3> Maybe I'll pick the brain of our other engineers today that address basically living manuals on this stuff
L72[13:43:30] <Liizzii> from what i can tell this would basically be the government or whatever effectively stealing the private keys of some cert in the chain of trust or something
L73[13:44:05] <Liizzii> and browsers needed to trust these government-issued root CAs and not show warnings when the normal cert isn't there
L74[13:44:17] <Liizzii> not sure how it'll play into TLS DANE stuff
L75[13:45:51] <S​3> Yeah so it looks like according to that article they want to enforce security requirements and restrictions on browsers which is a big deal. This doesn't stop from private browsers being developed and popping up though
L76[13:46:01] <S​3> It also doesn't cover layer 7 encryption
L77[13:46:40] <S​3> That would have to be covered in some other law which, could happen
L78[13:46:41] <Kristo​pher38> what's stopping me from forking a browser and rejecting to use any website that has a government CA in the chain of trust
L79[13:47:23] <Liizzii> you have the government knocking on your door, probably
L80[13:48:29] <S​3> Tls1.3 will however protect against mitm handshake forging / inspection in the case that somebody can see your traffic
L81[13:49:05] <Liizzii> yeah, but if they can more-or-less pretend to be the other side, then that doesn't really help
L82[13:49:08] <S​3> Because it no longer sends session keys in a handshake and can start transmitting traffic preconfigured from a previous session
L83[13:49:26] <Liizzii> hmm, if using previous known data that might hinder it
L84[13:49:41] <Kristo​pher38> assuming previous session was genuine
L85[13:50:07] <Liizzii> but then again, supposedly that's what the EU is wanting to do is mandate that the browser, if it encounters that scenario, is not allowed to stop the connection or warn the user
L86[13:50:48] <Corded> > <Lii​zzii> you have the government knocking on your door, probably
L87[13:50:48] <Kristo​pher38> would I now? pretty sure this falls within the realm of piracy/cracking. Technically illegall, but hardly anyone does anything about single individuals
L88[13:50:54] <S​3> Iirc it cant be restarted either to generate a new handshake because on tls1.3 session renegotiation was removed
L89[13:51:07] <Kristo​pher38> or rather, "realm of similar consequences to piracy/cracking"
L90[13:51:19] <Izzy> Kristopher38: got an internet card, feel free to use it while I'm not around; will set up a system to proxy it to other computers Eventually(TM)
L91[13:51:28] <S​3> Another challenge to eIDAS is wireguard
L92[13:51:51] <Kristo​pher38> Izzy: nice
L93[13:51:59] <S​3> Without being mitm you actually can't detect a wireguard server
L94[13:52:16] <Liizzii> or any real vpn probably
L95[13:52:18] <S​3> Because wireguard only responds on udp to sessions it can decrypt and understand
L96[13:52:41] <S​3> It's 100% silent and also only transmits when there's traffic needed to send
L97[13:52:44] <Liizzii> yeah
L98[13:52:49] <S​3> It doesn't heart eat by default
L99[13:53:55] <Liizzii> yeah
L100[13:53:59] <Kristo​pher38> can't wait to have browsers labeled as "illegal" because they reject gov't CAs
L101[13:55:13] <Liizzii> a tool that i found recently is NNCP, which is sort of a modern version of UUCP with E2E encryption and TOR-esk layering of the encryption if you bounce stuff through multiple people
L102[13:57:29] <Elfi> I suppose that's one possible benefit of Vivaldi--it operates from Norway and thus is nominally out of EU jurisdiction
L103[14:08:50] <S​3> I had a weird dream that night the involved making scatter style proxies by mixing lacp and wireguard in a terrible mesh looking topology
L104[14:09:36] <Kristo​pher38> there's an alarming rate of words that are not in the bible in that sentence
L105[14:10:39] <S​3> Good. I'm not a fan of fan fiction anyways
L106[14:11:26] <S​3> I got kicked out of Barnes and Noble for moving Bibles to the fiction section
L107[14:43:05] <Forec​aster> The Bible is just hitchhiker's guide fanfiction
L108[14:53:38] <S​3> Heheh
L109[14:53:59] <S​3> I have a book that I call the Bible
L110[14:54:03] <S​3> Might have a photo of it
L111[15:31:15] <S​3> 😦 One stick of RAM is not working
L112[15:31:17] <S​3> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1699543876966.png
L113[15:31:22] <S​3> I wonder if the IPMI will tell me
L114[15:31:29] <S​3> There should be 192 GB of RAM not 184
L115[15:46:42] <S​3> Wait I am just blind
L116[15:46:46] <S​3> It's detecting it
L117[15:46:53] <S​3> I read the numbers wrong
L118[15:46:55] <S​3> YAY
L119[15:54:13] <Forec​aster> reading numbers is very hard sometimes
L120[15:54:33] <Forec​aster> especially when there's a lot of them
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L123[17:25:17] * Amanda climbs out of the ceiling, meows and looks around
L124[17:25:53] <Forec​aster> aaah
L125[17:34:23] <Amanda> Real monsters!?
L126[17:35:50] <Forec​aster> an Amanda!
L127[17:36:03] <Amanda> Rude, I'm not a monster!
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L129[17:44:09] <Forec​aster> I didn't say anything about monsters
L130[17:44:29] <Amanda> Likely story!
L131[17:46:24] <Forec​aster> %sip
L132[17:46:25] <MichiBot> You drink a safe diamond potion (New!). It tastes salty.
L133[17:46:40] <Forec​aster> At least it's safe
L134[18:09:29] <Corded> > <Z0id​burg> I got kicked out of Barnes and Noble for moving Bibles to t…
L135[18:09:29] <Kristo​pher38> lmao
L136[18:11:31] <Forec​aster> huh
L137[18:11:54] <Forec​aster> I just realized I can program an adventure game or something into an industrial robot
L138[18:12:05] <Forec​aster> and now I want to try it
L139[18:12:48] <Forec​aster> if I give it a pen maybe I could have it draw a map or something as the game progresses
L140[18:16:17] <Amanda> Forecaster was later fired for doing an entire DnD campaign with the industrial robots he was supposed to be programming to do life-saving heart surgery
L141[18:16:30] <Mim​iru> lmao
L142[18:22:09] <Forec​aster> I don't think you want to use "industrial robot" and "heart surgery" in the same sentence
L143[18:22:54] <Amanda> That's quitter talk
L144[18:24:23] <Mim​iru> So, I smoked a HDD last night... Grabbed a PSU that had modular cables already plugged into it for SATA, figured hey SURELY these are the cables for this PSU. Plugged a HDD into it powered the machine up and a melted SATA Power connector later... I realized it was infact NOT the cables for that PSU
L145[18:24:43] <Elfi> Oof, yeah
L146[18:25:03] <Amanda> Don't breathe that!
L147[18:25:04] <Mim​iru> 500GB 2.5" drive... the last free HDD I had
L148[18:25:13] <Mim​iru> and I need storage in this machine :(
L149[18:25:14] <Elfi> I always *always* make sure modular cables are paired tightly to their PSU because I've seen similarly-keyed plugins with different pins before
L150[18:25:23] <Elfi> That sucks :< I'm sorry
L151[18:25:32] <Mim​iru> these are annoying... they are the EXACTLY right plug.
L152[18:25:34] <Elfi> I'd send you one of my old 500GB SATA SSDs
L153[18:25:36] * Amanda curls up atop Elfi, meows about her upcoming travel anxity
L154[18:25:38] <Mim​iru> just wires are not in the same order
L155[18:25:51] <Elfi> Yeah... modular PSUs are just untrustworthy
L156[18:26:12] <Forec​aster> someone needs to invent un-modular PSUs already
L157[18:26:17] <Mim​iru> I found the correct cables for the PSU afterward, and multimetered the pins to confirm.
L158[18:26:34] <Mim​iru> 12v and gnd were reversed on the wrong wires..
L159[18:27:58] <Mim​iru> Modular PSUs are great... but damn they need to standardize
L160[18:28:02] <Mim​iru> %xkcd 927
L161[18:28:03] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Standards URL: https://xkcd.com/927
L162[18:43:41] <Forec​aster> as usual I need to find some time
L163[18:44:09] <Forec​aster> I also need to figure out some kind simple text based game that uses a map...
L164[18:44:11] <Amanda> Just buy some from Chronos, his rates are pretty reasonable
L165[18:45:06] <Forec​aster> I wish
L166[18:49:56] <Amanda> What? The madness of being stuck in your unmovable body for years at a time while only seconds pass externally is too high a price for you? tch, cheapskate
L167[18:51:59] <Forec​aster> I've placed several orders but it never arrives
L168[19:11:03] <Amanda> Hermes must be overloaded
L169[20:00:58] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> I also need to figure out some kind simple text based game …
L170[20:00:58] <S​3> Usually we make maps for text based games not the other way around, because text based games often don't operate in linear space
L171[20:01:02] <S​3> MUDs for example
L172[20:01:55] <Amanda> What do you mean, it makes perfect sense Recall Tower has three outdoor rooms that loop east-west
L173[20:04:46] <Forec​aster> The simplest implementation would just be drawing a line on a grid to represent the path taken
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L176[20:17:17] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L177[20:17:19] <MichiBot> Holy piece of rope slightly too small to be useful Batman! Va​ur! You beat walks​anator's previous record of 15 hours, 20 minutes and 48 seconds (By 49 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L178[20:17:20] <MichiBot> Va​ur has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.016 tonk points! plus 0.015 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.79371842. Position #1
L179[20:17:28] <Va​ur> what ?
L180[20:18:00] <Va​ur> @Forecaster what happened ?
L181[20:18:51] <Corded> > <Mich​iBot> You drink a goopy coral potion (New!). Forecaster watches h…
L182[20:18:51] <Va​ur> oh ... that happened
L183[20:18:58] <Va​ur> rip
L184[20:31:00] <Forec​aster> >:
L185[20:33:19] <stephan48> "Mr Forecaster, why does each customer site have a Map and each Roboter a D&D Profile?"
L186[20:38:09] <Forec​aster> Why wouldn't they?
L187[21:19:30] <Amanda> Huh
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