L2[00:40:35] <Forec​aster> Oof

L5[01:51:09] <bcuebler> a

L6[01:51:17] <adam12> a

L9[02:01:05] <Va​ur> %sip

L10[02:01:07] <MichiBot> You drink a boiling titanium potion (New!). Vaur's bed is suddenly slightly more comfortable until they have a bubbly stainless steel potion.

L13[03:14:36] <bcuebler> hello

L14[03:14:52] <bcuebler> h

L17[03:16:35] <Va​ur> %sip

L18[03:16:37] <MichiBot> You drink a hairy moonstone potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus! It just changed Vaur's background...

L19[04:05:12] <ar2​000> Does anyone have any resources about how to implement a tun interface ? Since osinetwork use real ip/tcp/UDP packets, I want to try to make a tun interface on linux

L20[04:41:08] <Amanda> I forget who, but someone that @nadja is friends with did something like that for oc2

L21[05:20:03] <Amanda> I don't think they used a tun device though

L22[05:20:17] <Amanda> Since it'd require mc running as root

L23[05:21:14] <Amanda> Maybe it was gruetzkopf? But I'm not sure

L24[05:31:19] <gruetzkopf> yeah, was us

L25[05:31:49] <gruetzkopf> no tun, but VXLAN. linux has annoying cornercases there though, but you can get around those using network namespaces

L26[05:32:40] <gruetzkopf> it's usable but UX is bad (you need to place down the adapter block and then create the network device on the other side

L27[05:33:16] <gruetzkopf> (it spits out the VXLAN ID it expects on the server console)

L28[05:33:29] <gruetzkopf> we used VLXAN because that's UDP-encapsulated

L29[05:35:08] <Amanda> %choose cubes or halucinate

L30[05:35:08] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I had a gold nugget for every time someone asked me about "halucinate"

L31[05:35:27] <Amanda> Sounds too common, I'll do cubes

L32[05:58:49] <ar2​000> I forgot to said it's to make a icable client. It's a VPN you can conntect to from in game

L33[05:58:56] <ar2​000> Build on top of my osi stack

L34[05:59:05] <Forec​aster> %tonk

L35[05:59:05] <MichiBot> Hooray! Forec​aster! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of 4 hours, 3 minutes and 34 seconds (By 2 hours, 17 minutes and 42 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L36[05:59:06] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 6 hours, 21 minutes and 17 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.0115 (0.0023 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.

L37[05:59:09] <ar2​000> so no mc running

L38[06:56:24] <S​3> G

L39[06:56:24] <S​3> gruetzkopf: vxlan are great. You know what's insane though? MP-BGP EVPN VXLAN (rfc 8365)

L40[06:56:34] <gruetzkopf> yup

L41[06:57:01] <S​3> There's a new project that's adding wireguard to EVPN by the way

L42[06:57:01] <gruetzkopf> ar2000: i had connectivity between ingame and the cccamp 2023 badge :D

L43[06:57:23] <S​3> So now you'll be able to do vxlan and wireguard provisioning over bgp

L44[06:57:36] <S​3> Say goodbye to mpls

L45[06:57:38] <gruetzkopf> (and i've also previously terminated the vxlan-block on a broadcom tomahawk 100GE switch

L46[06:57:51] <gruetzkopf> just because)

L47[07:15:44] <S​3> FreeBSD currently provides bgpd only through Quagga

L48[07:15:54] <S​3> I'm a little upset about that. I kind of want to write my own bgpd for FreeBSD

L49[08:54:22] <ar2​000> After hours of work : TCP 3 way handshake is working

L50[09:23:23] <S​3> Ew

L51[09:23:29] <S​3> Tcp discussing

L52[09:23:35] <S​3> Disgusting*

L53[09:24:37] <S​3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1144668667347476622/PXL_20230825_161858748.jpg

L54[10:05:11] <Amanda> %choose comfort or utility

L55[10:05:12] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Somebody once told me to roll with "utility"

L58[11:48:08] *** Server sets mode: +ntz

L61[11:54:07] *** Server sets mode: +ntz

L64[12:48:37] <Forec​aster> %tonkout

L65[12:48:38] <MichiBot> Darn it! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 6 hours, 21 minutes and 17 seconds (By 28 minutes and 14 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L66[12:48:39] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.07446824, Position #1

L67[13:06:12] <ar2​000> Task failed successfully https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1144724427880271984/image.png

L68[13:06:21] <ar2​000> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1144724466098770002/image.png

L69[13:39:44] <CompanionCube> Izzy: https://cohost.org/love/post/2619719-look-it-s-her-th#comments plush *hyun-ae, giveaway on twitter, might see a *mute one in future?

L70[13:40:40] <CompanionCube> i don't remember if Skye played or not

L71[13:59:32] <Mic​hiyo> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1144737849040707584/20230825_125414.jpg&lt;Mic​hiyo> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1144737849363681330/20230825_125352.jpg

L72[13:59:38] <Mic​hiyo> So, here was MY fun for the day

L73[14:01:14] <Mic​hiyo> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1144738278289973360/20230825_125402.jpg

L74[14:06:24] <stephan48> error: does not look fun, looks cooked

L75[14:06:26] <ar2​000> 🚒

L79[15:57:13] <Izzy> CompanionCube: saw it on fedi. neat!

L80[15:57:44] <techt​astic> >techtastic: <@267873837901807616> i want your opinion on an aspect of VC Overhaul im doin…

L81[15:57:44] <techt​astic> What do yall think?

L82[16:47:11] <techt​astic> @sangar. Sorry for the ping but this is in regards to how to implement something for a TIS addon

L85[17:21:12] <Amanda> %choose zzzmews or halucinate

L86[17:21:13] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Wait, what was the question again? Uhh... "zzzmews"?

L87[17:25:08] <Amanda> Sounds good

L88[17:25:11] <Amanda> Night girls

L90[17:25:38] <NuclearNickel> Hello! We're just now testing out our first computer in the server.

L91[17:31:15] <NuclearNickel> If anyone does exist out there, give us a shout. We'd love to hear from ya'

L92[17:33:11] <ar2​000> We do exist. But be careful. We have a cat, a fairy, and a bunch of weirdos

L93[17:33:44] <ar2​000> %sip

L94[17:33:45] <MichiBot> You drink a viscous void potion (New!). ar2000 feels the need to smash. (%smash)

L95[17:33:46] <NuclearNickel> That's +5 weirdos then. We just got our first reactor up and running too!

L96[17:34:00] <ar2​000> %smash

L97[17:34:00] <MichiBot> ar2000 smashes a vase. A particularly sharp piece hit someone you don't like in the face.

L98[17:34:33] <ar2​000> More power to fuel the irc client

L99[17:35:20] <NuclearNickel> Basically. We're working on the Exxon Mobile Chemical Plant right now. So much rutile---

L100[17:38:33] <ar2​000> I'm working on tcp. It's another kind of mess

L101[17:39:46] <NuclearNickel> We're running GregTech New Horizons ourselves here.

L102[17:56:55] <Va​ur> %tonk

L103[17:56:55] <MichiBot> Awesome! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 5 hours, 8 minutes and 17 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L104[17:56:56] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 5 hours, 8 minutes and 17 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00514 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.05991963 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L105[18:27:31] <S​ky> NuclearNickel don't be deceived, we're all ChatGPT bots run by OpenComputers

L106[18:27:55] <NuclearNickel> Does that make us ChatGPT bots too?

L107[18:28:29] <NuclearNickel> The people of the Federated States of Croy would not enjoy this if true.

L108[18:33:33] <CompanionCube> %hello

L109[18:33:34] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.

L111[19:01:29] <S​ky> > (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!)

L112[19:01:30] <S​ky> What if I use my funny `paste.skystuff.cc` :)

L113[19:01:40] <S​ky> (to be implemented lmao, i've not finished the front end at all lmao)

L114[19:04:26] <NuclearNickel> Well folks, I gotta hit the hay. You may encounter others using this PC besides me. Dunno how we're gonna identify ourselves, but that's a problem for later. For now though, good night!

L115[19:04:51] <S​ky> >NuclearNickel: Well folks, I gotta hit the hay. You may encounter others using this P…

L116[19:04:51] <S​ky> Close IRC and tell your buddies to log in with a different nickname?

L117[19:05:44] <S​ky> I really should keep working on my paste server though

L118[19:05:49] <S​ky> iirc i had the entire back end done

L119[19:06:24] <S​ky> After all, good code is written late at night :)

L121[19:09:08] <S​ky> o7

L122[19:09:38] <S​ky> oh

L123[19:09:45] <S​ky> i have half the frontend implemented lmfao

L124[19:09:54] <S​ky> now im remembering everything

L125[19:10:08] <S​ky> yeah i quit working on it because my dropdown didnt work

L126[19:10:20] <S​ky> eh, too late to do this lmao

L127[22:45:39] <Ocawes​ome101> %tonk

L128[22:45:39] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Ocawesome101, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 5 hours, 8 minutes and 17 seconds this time. 4 hours, 48 minutes and 43 seconds were wasted! Missed by 19 minutes and 33 seconds!

L129[22:45:47] <Ocawes​ome101> damn

L130[23:00:10] <sorafi​restorm> regardless of whether or not this is a *good* idea... would it be possible for an add-on to replace `machine.lua`?

L131[23:02:23] <sorafi​restorm> relatedly: does `machine.lua` count against the computer's memory limit?

L132[23:06:33] <Hawk777> Architectures are pluggable. If nothing else, you could make an architecture that is just a copy and paste of the regular architecture, with a different machine.lua.

L133[23:06:45] <Hawk777> There may be a less insane way to do it though.

L134[23:07:01] <sorafi​restorm> `machine.lua` belongs to the architecture, ah

L135[23:07:05] <Hawk777> (By “pluggable” I mean other mods can add new architectures)

L136[23:07:09] <sorafi​restorm> right

L137[23:07:11] <Hawk777> Yes, it does.

L138[23:07:45] <sorafi​restorm> well I want to add new architectures so that's workable enough

L139[23:08:40] <sorafi​restorm> I'm investigating the feasibility of adding a system to add transpiler architectures

L140[23:08:57] <sorafi​restorm> ie architectures that take code that is then compiled to Lua

L141[23:09:47] <sorafi​restorm> and then use most of the existing Lua architecture support

L142[23:15:56] <sorafi​restorm> and yes, you can "just" run the transpiler (assuming it is Lua itself one way or another) inside a computer but that eats valuable memory... I run my config with 2x default memory and there's still pressure (after upstreaming a round of memory optimizations; pre-optimizations it an even worse story)

L143[23:20:57] <Hawk777> Or you could run the transpiler *outside* the computer and then upload the resulting Lua files into the computer.

L144[23:21:13] <Hawk777> (i.e. run it on your real computer and copy the transpiled Lua files into the OC computer)

L145[23:21:33] <sorafi​restorm> you could... I'd prefer not to do that

L146[23:21:37] <sorafi​restorm> hassle

L147[23:22:08] <Hawk777> I tend to lean very much in that direction myself, since personally I find tools like text editors much more pleasant to use on my actual computer than on OC computers. But that’s not for everyone, I understand.

L148[23:22:37] <sorafi​restorm> external tools are definitely better than the built-in ones lol

L149[23:22:45] <sorafi​restorm> but I'm weird and like the extra immersion

L150[23:22:54] <Hawk777> I’m also playing singleplayer so “copying” the files into the OC computer actually means not doing anything at all; I just disable filesystem buffering and point a symlink at my external working directory or files.

L151[23:23:07] <Ocawes​ome101> i do that also

L152[23:23:07] <Hawk777> Sure, that’s a very reasonable idea.

L153[23:23:09] <Hawk777> Not weird IMO.

L154[23:23:42] <Hawk777> (wanting immersion I mean)