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L5[00:58:54] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L6[00:58:54] <MichiBot> Awesome! Compan​ionCube! You beat PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)'s previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 18 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L7[00:58:55] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 3 hours, 18 minutes and 8 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.0033 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.03285758 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L8[01:26:51] * Amanda debates zzzmews or hallucinate
L9[01:27:53] <Amanda> %choose zzzmews or hallucinate
L10[01:27:53] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A wizard is never late, and sometimes engages in some "hallucinate".
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L12[01:38:49] <Amanda> Hrm. Tomorrow, now zzzmews
L13[01:39:34] * Amanda lays her head on Elfi, meows about her day and her plans to rewrite the Linux kernel in befeuge to speed it up by 6.9%
L14[01:39:52] <Amanda> Night girls
L15[01:43:55] <Izzy> Birdacious: you could try implementing mosh or similar
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L18[03:22:29] <sp​ok;> >Kristopher38: why would anybody want to do it this way and not the other way around
L19[03:22:30] <sp​ok;> funni
L20[03:58:35] <Scotty​cool64> is this a real update on OC 1
L21[04:05:56] <forec​aster> What is "this"
L22[05:15:12] <ShreksHe​llraiser> I'd assume the file posted 3 days ago
L23[05:15:17] <ShreksHe​llraiser> https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/opencomputers/files/4566834
L24[05:15:46] <ShreksHe​llraiser> has this made it here yet https://prismlauncher.org/news/cf-compromised-alert/
L25[05:26:09] <lili​rine> re curseforge malware: anyone here good with reverse engineering native Windows code?
L26[05:26:37] <lili​rine> we've (and by 'we' I mean #cfmalware on esper) found a potential stage 3 - hook.dll
L27[05:26:48] <lili​rine> the problem: none of us are any good with native reverse engineering :wacko:
L28[05:42:10] <CompanionCube> Izzy: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jun/05/darren-rodwell-labour-barking-dagenham-london-knife-crime-evictions not going to happem but ~cool and normal~
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L31[06:09:42] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L32[06:09:42] <MichiBot> Geez! Compan​ionCube! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 18 minutes and 8 seconds (By 1 hour, 52 minutes and 38 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L33[06:09:43] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.81585481, Position #2 Need 0.01985758 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L37[07:46:27] <Izzy> CompanionCube: excuse me what
L38[07:48:18] <CompanionCube> Izzy: i don
L39[07:48:53] <CompanionCube> i don't think it would happen, but consider that this person will be a labour mp in the next parliament
L40[08:02:21] <CompanionCube> relatedly ~one election cycle ago the current tory party deputy chairman was a labour councillor suspended bh the others
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L44[09:24:20] <Na​dja> >lilirine: re curseforge malware: anyone here good with reverse engineering native …
L45[09:24:20] <Na​dja> Hmm, my partner may be able to help.
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L48[11:01:48] <Amanda> @Nadja you should be careful barging into your cosplay-enthusist friend's workshop while they're busy. Might accidentally inspire them to "fix" your fractured soul with their sewing Gift making the nagging voice of doubt in the back of your head into a separate personality in a newly-formed system.
L49[11:04:06] <Na​dja> You mean you get your very own perpetual doomer teen that comments on everything you do? sounds fun :P
L50[11:07:25] <Amanda> @Nadja also it's totally normal for a billionaire philanthropist to bomb his own building to fake the death of a bunch of orcs so that he can move them to a separate secure location! Also I don't think my glasses are rated to protect me from a ground-zero nuking
L51[11:08:15] <Amanda> And this hotel's tram system is super inefficient. Going across town several times
L52[11:09:09] <Amanda> Also dream-amanda apparently doesn't know what an anchor is
L53[11:42:51] * Amanda tucks in around Elfi, offers her some biscuits for breakfast
L54[11:59:53] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> %tonk
L55[11:59:54] <MichiBot> Bingo! PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of <0 (By 5 hours, 50 minutes and 11 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L56[11:59:55] <MichiBot> PwnagePineapple (He/Him)'s new record is 5 hours, 50 minutes and 11 seconds! PwnagePineapple (He/Him) also gained 0.00584 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #8. Need 0.066378 more points to pass walksanato​r. B⃢ot.!
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L63[14:22:19] <forec​aster> %sip
L64[14:22:21] <MichiBot> You drink a diluted silver potion (New!). forecaster's clothes turn gold until someone turns off a lamp.
L65[14:22:28] <forec​aster> agh, heavy
L66[14:35:05] * Amanda quarentines @Forecaster using Midis protocols
L67[14:36:12] <forec​aster> you should just turn off a lamp instead
L68[14:36:13] <forec​aster> >:
L69[14:36:25] <Amanda> That's heresy
L70[14:36:34] <forec​aster> also it seems pings are borked
L71[14:36:48] <Amanda> @forecaster what about this?
L72[14:36:54] <forec​aster> that works
L73[14:37:01] <Amanda> Has to be lowercase irc-side
L74[14:37:14] <forec​aster> It seems Corded is only aware of my actual username now, not my "nickname"
L75[14:37:27] <forec​aster> (the only difference is uppercase F)
L76[14:37:50] <forec​aster> usernames are all lowercase, or the nickname would also be Forecaster
L77[14:40:48] <forec​aster> I'd hazard a guess that the API changed to provide the username by default, and the nickname as a new field perhaps
L78[14:41:05] <Amanda> seems like something they'd do, yeah
L79[14:44:01] <forec​aster> it makes sense, having the primary name be the one that uniquely identifies the user, but it's a bit sudden also
L80[14:44:52] <forec​aster> fortunately MichiBot doesn
L81[14:44:57] <forec​aster> 't care it seems
L82[14:45:19] <forec​aster> I may have made her lowercase usernames before doing anything with them, at least for tonk
L83[14:45:56] <forec​aster> %sip
L84[14:45:58] <MichiBot> You drink a goopy water potion (New!). There's an acidic tinge to the potion... A label on the bottle reads "Who needs internal organs anyway?". forecaster takes 3d​6 => [6,1,3] acid damage.
L85[14:46:05] <forec​aster> ouch
L86[14:46:37] <Amanda> %give MichiBot a local fox-yips reporter
L87[14:46:37] * MichiBot accepts the local fox-yips reporter and adds it to her inventory
L88[14:47:18] * Amanda gives @inari back her fox-fire now that the fire advisary is over
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L93[15:30:10] <Amanda> Bleh. I wish I knew which fox stole all my motivation so I can make an example out of them
L94[15:38:06] <forec​aster> a foxample
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L97[17:46:36] <Na​dja> https://github.com/clrxbl/NekoClient neat :3
L98[17:54:01] <forec​aster> I've heard Mal Ware makes great software
L99[17:54:05] <forec​aster> lots of people use it
L100[17:54:39] <Amanda> @Nadja inb4 M$ bans the repo and user for "hosting malware"
L101[17:55:15] <Na​dja> Amanda: Chances are good
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L104[18:03:15] <Amanda> %give MichiBot an overly-agressive AI toaster
L105[18:03:15] * MichiBot accepts the overly-agressive AI toaster and adds it to her inventory
L106[18:08:47] <Amanda> %choose story; lesbian or transbian
L107[18:08:47] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: lesbian story
L108[18:10:59] <Amanda> Hrm
L109[18:11:12] <Amanda> Maybe I'll try and not be useless instead
L110[18:11:31] * Amanda stares at an editor window
L111[18:14:12] <Ash​irg> Hello everyone. I have not talked here in a long time...
L112[18:14:27] <Ash​irg> Not sure whether you even still remember me.
L113[18:14:34] <Amanda> AAAAAAAAAAA ZOMBIE!
L114[18:14:44] <Ash​irg> Hi Amanda
L115[18:14:46] * Amanda pushes a bowling ball onto @Ashirg's head
L116[18:14:53] <Ash​irg> Ouch
L117[18:14:55] <Ash​irg> Rude
L118[18:15:58] <Ash​irg> And by the way, thanks for recommending me Evernya Rising back then.
L119[18:16:19] <Ash​irg> I liked it and it opened my avenues to a lot more fun stories to read.
L120[18:18:02] <Ash​irg> %sip
L121[18:18:03] <MichiBot> You drink a chewy bavarium potion (New!). The next fork Ashirg touches tells them it's most deeply guarded secret.
L122[18:19:05] <Amanda> Forgot all about that story. I read far too many stories lolol
L123[18:19:36] <Ash​irg> Yeah, I don't remember all of them either.
L124[18:19:44] <Ash​irg> %tonk
L125[18:19:46] <MichiBot> Ash​irg: You should probably read this: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L126[18:19:54] <Ash​irg> Again?
L127[18:20:03] <Amanda> Every year it's reset
L128[18:20:08] <mic​hiyo> ^
L129[18:20:55] <Ash​irg> I see
L130[18:21:01] <Ash​irg> %tonk 6E8E2
L131[18:21:01] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Ash​irg! You beat PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)'s previous record of 5 hours, 50 minutes and 11 seconds (By 30 minutes and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L132[18:21:02] <MichiBot> Ashirg's new record is 6 hours, 21 minutes and 7 seconds! Ashirg also gained 0.00312 (0.00052 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #17. (Overtook cat2002) Need 0.0077 more points to pass Ocawes​ome101!
L133[18:21:42] <Ash​irg> Let's see, when did I last talk here...
L134[18:24:08] <Ash​irg> The last time I was actually active here was January.
L135[18:24:13] <Ash​irg> 2022
L136[18:28:32] <Ash​irg> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/435161827190767626/1039777188687384637/image.png
L137[18:38:44] <forec​aster> is the image related
L138[19:20:53] <Amanda> smh doesn't even inculde lp0 is on fire
L139[19:24:52] <forec​aster> but that is a serious matter
L140[19:27:19] <Amanda> I remember seeing "lp0 is on fire" in the dmesg output of my computer in the mid-late '00s. was concerned because nothing was actually plugged into the parallel port
L141[19:28:53] <Amanda> %choose continue halucinating about a catgirl's reverse-isekai or try and be productive, ya lazy git
L142[19:28:54] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Is it a bird?! Is it a plane?! No! It's "continue halucinating about a catgirl's reverse-isekai"!
L143[19:31:38] <Va​ur> %sip
L144[19:31:39] <MichiBot> You drink a tiny solarium potion (New!). Vaur gains an additional bone.
L145[19:32:17] <forec​aster> you can never have enough bones
L146[19:32:22] <forec​aster> always good to have spares
L147[19:42:04] <Va​ur> %sip
L148[19:42:05] <MichiBot> You drink a wonderful currentcorn potion (New!). A genie appears out of the empty bottle, turns it into a pie, then vanishes.
L149[19:42:47] <forec​aster> you can never have enough pies, spares etc
L150[19:42:57] <Va​ur> the pie was a lie
L151[19:43:38] <forec​aster> it was?
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L154[20:06:50] <Amanda> @Nadja halp, the next button's broken on my cute reverse-isekai catgirl story
L155[20:08:52] <Na​dja> That's because you reached the end of the uploaded story dear
L156[20:10:52] <Amanda> But... cute catgirl in earth!
L157[20:12:22] <Saphire> Oh yeah have you heard the news about malware?
L158[20:12:56] <forec​aster> our lord and saviour Mal Ware?
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L161[20:23:27] <TechT​astic> Minecraft Modded Worm called Fracturizer go BRRRRR
L162[20:24:12] <TechT​astic> https://github.com/fractureiser-investigation/fractureiser
L163[20:36:35] <sp​okr> I'm just imagining being the author of fractureiser and watching the entire modded minecraft scene explode as your malware is discovered
L164[20:56:19] * Amanda teaches @Nadja the secret ear flops to get into the maintenance dimension
L165[20:57:32] <Amanda> Requires kin ears, but that's fine for a catgirl!
L166[21:00:28] <Na​dja> >Amanda: Requires kin ears, but that's fine for a catgirl!
L167[21:00:28] <Na​dja> Foxgirl but yes ;)
L168[21:01:08] <Amanda> Ah, that explains all the fox fur I keep finding, I thought @inari escaped containment
L169[21:07:50] <Amanda> I'll leave the translation of the cat-ear flops to fox-ear flops to you, @Nadja -- don't worry, they're only slightly different to the all-consuming void dimension!
L170[21:08:14] <Kristo​pher38> fingercomp: I'm trying to modernize libtls and implement `TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA` (replacing sha256 with sha1 as an intermediate step before moving to `ECDHE`) - I've managed to get sha1 and hmac with sha1 to work correctly with `lua-lockbox` (verified it with a different known-good implementation), I'm getting through to sending encrypted handshake message but at that point the server responds with "bad_record_mac". Would you mind taking
L171[21:08:14] <Kristo​pher38> a look if these parameters look correct (especially `macBlockLength` and `macKeyLenght`)? I'm not knowledgeable on the internals of ciphersuites so I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
L172[21:08:14] <Kristo​pher38> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/bijuzatilu
L173[21:08:28] <Na​dja> >Amanda: I'll leave the translation of the cat-ear flops to fox-ear flops to you,…
L174[21:08:28] <Na​dja> They're close enough, I have a dictionary here :P
L175[21:10:53] <Na​dja> >Kristopher38: fingercomp: I'm trying to modernize libtls and implement `TLS_RSA_WITH_A…
L176[21:10:53] <Na​dja> I'm a bit confused why you're replacing sha256 with sha1, but regardless, macKeyLength of 20 sounds wrong.
L177[21:12:44] <Saphire> Nadja it sounds right... if you are using hex
L178[21:12:48] <Saphire> 0x20 is 32
L179[21:15:11] <Na​dja> And sha1 doesn't use 32 byte, or bit, of key
L180[21:15:22] <Na​dja> It uses 96 bit, aka 12 byte
L181[21:15:45] <Na​dja> Also all the other values fit as decimal bytes
L182[21:15:47] <Na​dja> Soo
L183[21:15:47] <Kristo​pher38> Nadja: ultimately I want to be able to connect to a service that only supports `TLS_{ECDHE}_{ECDSA, RSA}_WITH_AES_{128, 256}_{GCM_SHA256, CBC_SHA}`. I don't feel confident implementing GCM as it's not provided in `lua-lockbox`. So I'm trying to switch to using SHA1 for hmac (as that's what's available) first to see how that turns out
L184[21:16:09] <Na​dja> Ah…
L185[21:16:20] <Finge​rcomp> >Kristopher38: fingercomp: I'm trying to modernize libtls and implement `TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_12…
L186[21:16:21] <Finge​rcomp> you sure the `macBlockLength` is 64?
L187[21:16:25] <Finge​rcomp> that seems a lot
L188[21:16:43] <Finge​rcomp> the numbers should be in the RFC
L189[21:16:49] <Finge​rcomp> I'm guessing it's got to be 20
L190[21:16:54] <Na​dja> Does lockbox provide ecdsa? Because I can write a GCM impl in two hours, I don't want to write an ECDHE one
L191[21:17:07] <Na​dja> >Fingercomp: you sure the `macBlockLength` is 64?
L192[21:17:07] <Na​dja> Yes. Sha uses 512-bit blocks.
L193[21:17:38] <Kristo​pher38> yeah, i've googled and it seems to check out, unless `macBlockLength` means something different (?)
L194[21:18:15] <fingercomp> it's entirely possible I've misused terms there
L195[21:18:37] <stephan48> oh no the discord people bleed over to irc! we are doooooommmeeed!
L196[21:18:52] <Na​dja> Shut it stephan :P
L197[21:19:11] <stephan48> :P
L198[21:19:19] <Kristo​pher38> anyway the combo `macKeyLength = 12` and `macBlockLength = 64` doesn't seem to work
L199[21:20:33] <Na​dja> Oh also, your mac isn't sha1, it's HMAC-SHA1, is that correct in your setup?
L200[21:20:55] <Kristo​pher38> yes
L201[21:21:13] <Kristo​pher38> ohh
L202[21:26:24] <Kristo​pher38> this doesn't change a thing though, I've looked it up again and google again said it should be `macKeyLength = 20` and `macBlockLength = 64`, that's what I started with
L203[21:26:43] <Kristo​pher38> maybe the issue is somewhere else :|
L204[21:31:13] <Saphire> Ah, SHA-1 is 160 bits... 20 bytes
L205[21:31:19] <Saphire> TIL
L206[21:31:21] <Na​dja> Yeah, misremembered
L207[21:32:47] <Kristo​pher38> >Nadja: Does lockbox provide ecdsa? Because I can write a GCM impl in two hours, I don'…
L208[21:32:47] <Kristo​pher38> anyway: it does not, and neither does pure-lua-crypto. plc does provide ECDH though
L209[21:33:54] * Amanda takes @inari's foxfire back away, since apparently something's been burning all day, ruining the air quality index
L210[21:34:40] <Na​dja> >Kristopher38: anyway: it does not, and neither does pure-lua-crypto. plc does provide …
L211[21:34:41] <Na​dja> If you have ECDH, ECDHE is reasonable easy last I read the RFC
L212[21:35:50] <Kristo​pher38> isn't the difference just generating a new keypair each time? or is there more to it?
L213[21:36:00] <Na​dja> It's mostly just that
L214[21:36:19] <Na​dja> But I'm not sure anymore how much data goes into the ephemeral keypairs
L215[21:36:36] <Na​dja> It's not X3DH where you mangle each pair into the result
L216[21:46:49] * Amanda flops down in the rain box, meows incessantly until someone turns it on for her
L217[21:46:56] <AR2​000> >Ashirg: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/435161827190767626/1039777188687���
L218[21:46:57] <AR2​000> that last one...
L219[21:46:57] <AR2​000> So many childs were sacrificed on my 512Mo RAM server
L220[21:48:31] <Ash​irg> >Amanda: <@!843225603762552882> halp, the next button's broken on my cute reverse-…
L221[21:48:32] <Ash​irg> What story are you talking about?
L222[21:50:25] <Amanda> @Ashirg https://www.scribblehub.com/series/757724/aster/
L223[21:50:40] <fingercomp> @Kristopher38 so the client sends its Finished message, and the server rejects it due to bad_record_mac?
L224[21:51:27] <fingercomp> first, I've looked into my code (what a mess...); I do think the macBlockLength is incorrectly named and should be equal to 20 for sha1
L225[21:51:41] <Ash​irg> >Amanda: <@304600634878066690> https://www.scribblehub.com/series/757724/aster/
L226[21:51:41] <Ash​irg> Many thanks
L227[21:51:41] <Kristo​pher38> client sends Handshake (0x16) message and the server rejects it due to bad record mac
L228[21:53:47] <Kristo​pher38> >fingercomp: first, I've looked into my code (what a mess...); I do think the macBlockLength…
L229[21:53:48] <Kristo​pher38> now that i've looked in the only place where it's used this seems correct
L230[21:54:51] <fingercomp> second, there's commented out code that dumps session secrets to a file
L231[21:55:24] <fingercomp> as far as I remember, you can load it in wireshark to inspect encrypted traffic
L232[21:55:56] <fingercomp> I highly advise doing so
L233[21:56:42] <Kristo​pher38> that should come in handy
L234[21:58:13] <fingercomp> bad_record_mac could be either due to invalid padding, invalid MAC computation, invalid message format, or wrong keys used for encryption
L235[21:58:30] <Amanda> AND MY AXE!
L236[21:58:52] <Amanda> I like to push it off the wall onto tls sesions
L237[21:58:58] <fingercomp> ...and other reasons that I didn't remember
L238[21:59:38] <fingercomp> but the ones I've listed are those I'd check first
L239[22:00:38] <Amanda> @Nadja have you ever worked with a bank before? This talk about tls reminded me of some bank's objection to chrome denying tls handshakes which let replay attacks work
L240[22:00:48] <fingercomp> I also think I had a test server set up that dumped a lot of data about its tls sessions so I could see exactly why it sends alerts
L241[22:01:31] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L242[22:01:31] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Ashirg's record of 6 hours, 21 minutes and 7 seconds this time. 3 hours, 40 minutes and 30 seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 40 minutes and 37 seconds!
L243[22:01:35] <Kristo​pher38> oh i'm just using `openssl s_server`, maybe i can make it really verbose
L244[22:01:37] <Amanda> (they were relying on replay attacks to do session logging and compliance logging )
L245[22:01:42] <Na​dja> Amanda: Not on that site, no
L246[22:02:18] <Amanda> So when chrome made it less feasible they got pissy at Google
L247[22:02:30] <Na​dja> That sounds entirely way too plausible
L248[22:03:19] <Amanda> "you can't make it so that we can't decrypt everything from raw packet dumps, we use that for compliance!"
L249[22:03:35] <Na​dja> "This gaping security hole in our online banking is not an issue because it's illegal to hack us!"
L250[22:04:22] <Amanda> I think Google ended up delaying the rollout of tightened tls settings as a result
L251[22:05:59] <Amanda> Part of my wonders if they just ended up doing tls 1.3 termination into an older tls imternally
L252[22:06:07] <Ash​irg> That sounds so stupid
L253[22:06:30] <Izzy> cursed question: anyone know if gitlab has an easy way (not using an API key) to download a specific commit from a repo?
L254[22:06:57] <Saphire> uhm
L255[22:07:08] <Saphire> What are you doing
L256[22:07:31] <Amanda> Izzy: I think it's still done from the /API endpoints, but only requires a key for private repos
L257[22:07:43] <Kristo​pher38> i need sleep
L258[22:07:51] <Kristo​pher38> but thanks for all the help
L259[22:08:00] <Izzy> you may be right Amanda
L260[22:08:01] <fingercomp> @Kristopher38 finally, if you don't manage to figure it out on your own, feel free to send me the patched library, and I'll try hunting for the bug too :)
L261[22:08:14] <stephan48> Izzy: "git clone -b ..."?
L262[22:08:15] <Izzy> Saphire: making CKAN metadata for mods without their own
L263[22:08:33] <Saphire> Hm
L264[22:08:46] <Saphire> That's KSP?
L265[22:08:49] <Izzy> yup
L266[22:08:53] <Kristo​pher38> yeah i'll try again tomorrow and if I run out of ideas I'll send you the patches
L267[22:08:54] <Izzy> using the API doesn't seem to require a key
L268[22:08:57] <Izzy> sweet
L269[22:08:57] <Saphire> OH
L270[22:08:59] <Saphire> Try raw
L271[22:09:01] <stephan48> or even a normal clone and then a checkout.
L272[22:09:06] <Saphire> ...or wait you want commit info?
L273[22:09:17] <Izzy> no I just want a specific version, this mod doesn't do releases
L274[22:09:27] <Saphire> Ah
L275[23:04:46] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@p200300eaef1a57682f26a1eae4f680ef.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
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