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L1[00:26:52] <stephan48> Amanda: have a look at Qt. Android Support i don't know much about but QML is apparently not that insane and its easy to reuse the same build system on f.e. windoof and linux
L2[00:27:04] <stephan48> skip over react native.
L3[00:27:59] <Amanda> stephan48: currently looking though fyne.io on my phone, looks promising, considering I'm comfortable with go and there's some tools for cross
L4[00:28:29] <stephan48> thats a new one. interesting
L5[00:28:43] <stephan48> althrough i don't really get warm with go(away)
L6[00:29:02] <Amanda> No idea if qt's c++ has gotten better, but I remember it being painful
L7[00:29:54] <stephan48> by the virtue of cmake, the buildsystem has, and that was my main painpoint with Qt and its magic
L8[00:30:22] <stephan48> althrough... recently had hit a fun bug screwing over its complete type system and magic mocing... by wrong order of header file includes
L9[00:30:57] <stephan48> please feel free to share your progress with that project :)
L10[00:31:13] <stephan48> and now n8 its 2:31 over here
L11[00:31:24] <Amanda> Night nature
L12[00:38:24] <Amanda> %choose zzzmews?
L13[00:38:24] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Hm, planetary alignment doesn't seem right for that.
L14[01:06:23] <Amanda> Well it seems perfectly aligned now, so zzzmews time
L15[01:06:26] <Amanda> Night girls
L16[01:36:31] <sap​hire> @Michiyo also I think you should be able to get an username on discord
L17[01:36:51] <Mic​hiyo> Not according to Discord.
L18[01:37:34] <Mic​hiyo> Oh.. I had to force reload
L19[01:37:36] <sap​hire> Oh! Restart/update
L20[01:37:37] <sap​hire> Yeah
L21[01:37:54] <mic​hiyo> YEAH BOI
L22[01:38:01] <mic​hiyo> I'm still `michiyo`
L23[01:38:23] <mic​hiyo> Thanks @saphire
L24[01:38:59] <mic​hiyo> Hmm... Corded is now sending my name as lowercase
L25[01:39:27] <sap​hire> Yeah :)
L26[01:39:36] <sap​hire> It's forced lowercase
L27[01:39:46] <sap​hire> I wish I had a more original name :c
L28[01:39:47] <mic​hiyo> Well, Corded is *supposed* to use your nickname/display name
L29[01:39:54] <sap​hire> But I did get Saphire
L30[01:40:47] <mic​hiyo> I'm just happy I beat the *other* Michiyos, someone else had Michiyo#0001
L31[01:41:33] <sap​hire> Lmao
L32[01:43:08] <sap​hire> I do wish I had a better username, weh
L33[02:03:51] <mic​hiyo> Hmm Aliucord is broken with this change
L34[02:03:53] <mic​hiyo> Lol
L35[03:12:46] <Izzy> I am once again thinking about standalone executables in PsychOS
L36[03:14:21] <Izzy> it wouldn't necessarily break the design, given you could still pass lua objects to them
L37[03:15:06] <Izzy> iunno I don't like how the shell works much at all
L38[03:15:38] <Izzy> maybe executables would be spawned as their own processes with an I/O stream moderated by the shell
L39[04:02:56] <forec​aster> Nice, I got forecaster
L40[04:03:54] <forec​aster> Also %tonk
L41[04:03:54] <MichiBot> Yay! forec​aster! You beat PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)'s previous record of 2 hours, 12 minutes and 52 seconds (By 4 hours, 48 minutes and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L42[04:03:55] <MichiBot> forecaster's new record is 7 hours, 1 minute and 40 seconds! forecaster also gained 0.01443 (0.00481 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L43[04:07:58] <TechT​astic> @PwnagePineapple (He/Him) i have a Create question
L44[04:07:58] <TechT​astic> how tf do i change the value within a ScrollOptionBehaviour<ContraptionController.LockedMode>?
L45[04:07:59] <TechT​astic> i cant find how ot change the value for the life of me
L46[04:17:31] <sp​ok;> >forecaster: Nice, I got forecaster
L47[04:17:32] <sp​ok;> and your acc is february 2016, which means hopefully i should get rollout soon and get spok hopefully
L48[04:42:37] <Izzy> tfw discord removes its only remotely unique feature
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L52[05:55:22] <pieb> test
L53[05:55:32] <pieb> wha whar
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L62[07:49:42] <Izzy> Amanda: am doing cursed things again https://shadowkat.net/tmp/6f92.png
L63[07:54:13] <Kristo​pher38> What's the deal here?
L64[07:54:31] <Izzy> so PsychOS for a while has only supported running functions in libraries
L65[07:54:47] <Izzy> I'm doing metatable bullshit to support running standalone executables as their own tasks
L66[07:55:14] <Izzy> and returning any values they return with
L67[07:55:27] <Kristo​pher38> Ah ic, makes sense
L68[08:00:26] <Izzy> also, in line mode, hitting ^C now throws an error
L69[11:26:59] <Amanda> Guess I should launch discord to see if I'm eligible to have my name stolen
L70[11:37:39] * Amanda takes away @Inari's foxfire since there's a fire weather warning in effect
L71[11:59:10] <forec​aster> I could have stolen your name
L72[12:16:24] * Izzy steals Amanda's true name
L73[12:16:47] * Izzy places in empty tin of caramel candy
L74[12:16:53] * Izzy closes tin
L75[12:17:08] <Izzy> Another something I'm not sure what to do with acquired >:D
L76[12:24:35] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> %tonk
L77[12:24:35] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket! PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)! You beat forec​aster's previous record of 7 hours, 1 minute and 40 seconds (By 1 hour and 19 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L78[12:24:36] <MichiBot> PwnagePineapple (He/Him)'s new record is 8 hours, 20 minutes and 40 seconds! PwnagePineapple (He/Him) also gained 0.01056 (0.00132 x 8) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #8. Need 0.097218 more points to pass walksanato​r. B⃢ot.!
L79[12:48:40] <Izzy> hm.
L80[12:49:21] <Izzy> so I could make my vtansi and getty stuff cope with GPUs with and without video memory
L81[12:49:47] <Izzy> OR I could add stubs to the component proxies to no-op all the GPU memory stuff
L82[13:38:30] <Izzy> ugh, debugging screen stuff is so frustrating
L83[13:38:58] <forec​aster> Amen
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L86[14:20:19] <Izzy> for anyone that's interested, mainline PsychOS 2 now supports both virtual terminals on systems with video memory, and single-terminal-per-display operation on systems without, no config needed
L87[14:25:00] <Izzy> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/54b7.jpg
L88[14:51:43] <Amanda> Izzy: postmarketos-ui-awesome-mobile is failing to build for me: ">>> ERROR: postmarketos-ui-awesome-mobile: gtk-settings.ini is missing in checksums"
L89[14:54:51] <Amanda> I suspect the awesome-mobile.sh change will also cause a shasum error if it gets there
L90[15:03:27] <Amanda> Damn, looks like I just missed them going to bed
L91[15:03:36] <Amanda> Guess I'll just have to fix it myself. :P
L92[15:10:14] <forec​aster> Logged out of the matrix
L93[16:20:10] <Va​ur> %sip
L94[16:20:12] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy dilithium potion (New!). Vaur's favourite cup is now upside down.
L95[16:23:16] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> %sip
L96[16:23:16] <MichiBot> You drink a still radiation potion (New!). PwnagePineapple (He/Him) gains one research point. PwnagePineapple (He/Him) now has 1 point. (Rem. uses: 0)
L97[16:23:37] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> Do research points do anything?
L98[16:29:21] <TechT​astic> >PwnagePineapple (He/Him): Do research points do anything?
L99[16:29:22] <TechT​astic> a thing trades em for tonk points, also, my Create question, is there an answer?
L100[16:37:27] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> >TechTastic: a thing trades em for tonk points, also, my Create question, is there an answer?
L101[16:37:27] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> You might need to do some reflection on that one
L102[16:38:39] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> To clarify: Java reflection. Not personal introspection lmao
L103[16:40:43] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> Realized that could've been read both ways
L104[16:44:29] <Amanda> Look yoself in the mirror, and ask "Why am I doing this?"
L105[16:46:18] <forec​aster> Yes there's a potion effect that turns any research points into tonk points then resets the research points to zero
L106[16:48:11] <TechT​astic> I have no idea, it seems just like a super weird class
L107[16:48:11] <TechT​astic> But then again I'm told that's just how weirdly coded Create is
L108[16:50:42] <forec​aster> The code needs to look itself in the mirror clearly
L109[17:17:08] <Amanda> stephan48: well, fyne won't work, updated pmos on my pinephone and now that I have a version of gcompat with libresolv.so.2 it's dying to SIGBUS
L110[18:04:54] <stephan48> aww :(
L111[18:23:29] <mic​hiyo> *sigh* I need another server... I've got 4 months left on my OVH contract, that I want to end... but I want to bring that server local, which means I need to have Proxmox, but I already have a Hyper-V host that I REALLY don't want to have to redo yet again ._.
L112[18:30:23] <forec​aster> want one of mine? they come with free dust 😄
L113[18:30:33] <forec​aster> lots of dust...
L114[18:32:36] <mic​hiyo> lol
L115[18:32:50] <mic​hiyo> I'm currently eyeing this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/234817708734 But it's about 100% out of my current budget
L116[18:32:53] <forec​aster> the dust improves conductivity
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L119[18:36:49] <mic​hiyo> The good news is the new ConnectX3 10GBcard I bought is a METRIC TON cooler than the HPs in the servers
L120[18:37:12] <forec​aster> that's great, fewer fans required!
L121[18:38:01] <mic​hiyo> Yeah.. I have to keep the fans in one of the servers manually cranked to 65% to keep airflow high enough to cool the damn card and it's STILL too hot to touch.
L122[18:38:17] <mic​hiyo> the ConnectX3 in my desktop sits directly below my GPU and is warm to the touch
L123[18:40:50] <forec​aster> I would put that outside
L124[18:41:10] <mic​hiyo> If you need 10GB networking to your desktop, I DO NOT recommend HP NC523SFPs lol
L125[18:41:27] <forec​aster> none of my other equipment is 10GB xD
L126[18:41:36] <mic​hiyo> It could be though!
L127[18:41:48] <forec​aster> I just ordered a robot lawnmower
L128[18:41:52] <forec​aster> I have negative money right now
L129[18:42:10] <mic​hiyo> I have negative money right now, and I DIDN'T just buy a robot lawnmower.
L130[18:43:00] <forec​aster> sounds like an excellent excuse to buy a robot lawnmower, since then you'll still only have negative money
L131[18:43:07] <forec​aster> 😄
L132[18:43:17] <mic​hiyo> lmao
L133[18:43:22] <mic​hiyo> I'd rather buy this server!
L134[18:43:27] <mic​hiyo> It's likely cheaper.
L135[18:43:38] <forec​aster> it's expensive, but on the other hand, not having to mow the lawn ever is very good
L136[18:43:53] <forec​aster> it was like 1600
L137[18:43:55] <mic​hiyo> I already don't have to mow, the only benifit of living where I do.
L138[18:44:16] <forec​aster> that used to be me
L139[18:44:31] <forec​aster> but now suddenly I have about 700 m2 of yard I'd prever not having to mow
L140[18:44:58] <forec​aster> though I'll still have to once I suppose to prepare for the robot
L141[18:47:06] <forec​aster> sigh
L142[18:47:32] <forec​aster> I wish when you rename a folder in IDEA it would send a rename command to the remote host
L143[18:47:44] <forec​aster> instead it just uploads the renamed folder and leaves the old one 😐
L144[19:18:05] <forec​aster> wellp, having given up on the quest to find a simple speed dial thing that allows me to access the same dial from anywhere I'm now making my own
L145[19:18:24] <forec​aster> mine can now grab screenshots of a website when it's added as a dial 😄
L146[19:18:44] <forec​aster> (using some third-party service that has a free api)
L147[19:31:13] <forec​aster> %sip
L148[19:31:15] <MichiBot> You drink a rising platinum potion (New!). forecaster hears a scream from nearby.
L149[19:31:24] <forec​aster> That's probably nothing
L150[19:33:23] <TechT​astic> %down
L151[19:33:24] <MichiBot> You drink a tacky cyan potion (New!). TechTastic feels slightly faster.
L152[19:34:10] <SwellLo​bster338> hi all, I compiled from source oc2, but can't compile Sedna https://tinyurl.com/2kjq4cbm
L153[19:34:15] <SwellLo​bster338> solutions?
L154[19:34:32] <SwellLo​bster338> https://tinyurl.com/2e8muu46
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L157[20:05:34] <Amanda> %p
L158[20:05:35] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ama​nda 0.53s
L159[20:05:41] <Amanda> Well, there goes the power
L160[20:06:59] <mic​hiyo> https://tenor.com/view/snap-ive-got-the-power-90s-music-eurodance-rap-gif-21366755
L161[20:07:10] <forec​aster> Remember to shut down your Amanda properly to avoid data loss
L162[20:08:49] * Amanda flops down around Elfi, meows about her plans for world domination, one scritchie at a time
L163[20:09:45] <Amanda> Elfi, those no-good foxen went and messed with my RTC again. it simultainioously feels like wednesday and monday
L164[20:10:06] <forec​aster> it isn't?!
L165[20:11:28] <Amanda> I guess it kinda is, but it feels like a quantum superposition, not an average
L166[20:11:39] * stephan48 offers Amanda scritchies ... having someone sane dominate the world would be a welcome change
L167[20:50:16] * Amanda purrs softly
L168[21:28:38] <Birda​cious> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/eciwerumey
L169[21:40:45] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> %tonkout
L170[21:40:46] <MichiBot> Awesome! PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)! You beat your own previous record of 8 hours, 20 minutes and 40 seconds (By 55 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L171[21:40:47] <MichiBot> PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him) has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.009 tonk points! plus 0.016 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.299792, Position #8 Need 0.072218 more points to pass walksanato​r. B⃢ot.!
L172[21:42:45] <Kristo​pher38> >access real linux terminals from opencomputers minecraft mod
L173[21:43:07] <Kristo​pher38> why would anybody want to do it this way and not the other way around
L174[21:44:20] <Kristo​pher38> anyway why do you want to make minecraft + vim your IDE
L175[21:44:24] <Kristo​pher38> i'm genuinely curious
L176[21:45:07] <Amanda> They want the thrill of being blown up by a creeper while they try and exit vim /s
L177[21:45:18] <Birda​cious> b/c Minecraft is better than real life, duh
L178[21:45:38] <Kristo​pher38> so you want to make it worse by accessing real world from it?
L179[21:45:44] <Birda​cious> but idk, I just think it would be really funny, and also what amanda said
L180[21:46:31] <Birda​cious> tbh I don't understand the draw of accessing OC from IRL ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L181[21:47:14] <Amanda> I've hooked up mc devices to my home automation before
L182[21:47:35] <Birda​cious> You can do a lot with TUIs (e.g. https://github.com/dankamongmen/notcurses)
L183[21:47:51] <Birda​cious> And yeah, stuff like that, that sounds cool.
L184[21:48:02] <Amanda> Monitor the progress of my pneumatic craft oil refinery with my phone
L185[21:48:13] <Kristo​pher38> >Birdacious: tbh I don't understand the draw of accessing OC from IRL ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L186[21:48:13] <Kristo​pher38> oh I don't know, maybe to access your remote OC files and edit them locally?
L187[21:48:20] <Amanda> That was with cc though
L188[21:49:14] <Amanda> Ported luamqtt to the cc websocket API, and mosquito can me told to listen w/ a websocket
L189[21:49:35] <Amanda> It's even easier in oc, just need to emulate Luasocket
L190[21:49:46] <Birda​cious> >Kristopher38: oh I don't know, maybe to access your remote OC files and edit them locally?
L191[21:49:46] <Birda​cious> Oh yeah tru. I've even had to do it for OC2 where I can't fit the gcc riscv compiler in
L192[21:50:34] <Kristo​pher38> I do find the idea of running code locally irl and just proxying component calls to the OC computer amusing though
L193[21:50:53] <Kristo​pher38> It'd be slow as hell
L194[21:51:18] <Kristo​pher38> but cool nonetheless
L195[21:51:20] <Kristo​pher38> could be probably sped up
L196[21:51:28] <Birda​cious> >Amanda: Ported luamqtt to the cc websocket API, and mosquito can me told to listen w/…
L197[21:51:28] <Birda​cious> yes, "luamqtt", "Luasocket", I wish to pick y'all's brains for concepts like these that I can read about to learn what I need to do. Because I don't quite know what to google search for to start learning
L198[21:54:53] <Amanda> It mostly comes down to experience. I've been hobbyist programming for coming up on 20 years now
L199[21:55:20] <Amanda> Started with GameMaker sometime around my 13'th year, of life, currently 32
L200[21:56:06] <Birda​cious> I agree, not been programming as long as you, but what I have learned most from are random passion projects
L201[21:58:14] <Birda​cious> So, what do y'all think would be easiest to start with, OC1 or OC2?
L202[21:58:43] <Kristo​pher38> OC1 I guess? i'm biased since I haven't used OC2
L203[21:58:44] <Birda​cious> (I would like to do both eventually, I have favorite mods in both 1.12 and 1.18)
L204[21:59:02] <Kristo​pher38> but OC1 has generally more community support
L205[21:59:26] <Birda​cious> That's a really good point I didn't consider
L206[22:00:26] <Birda​cious> I was leaning towards OC1, `ngsh` already works pretty well, it is just missing support for some terminal escape codes, and could maybe be a bit faster. I will try to build on it
L207[22:12:35] <Kristo​pher38> On the topic of related concepts I've recently found out about syncthing and its relay servers
L208[22:12:48] <S​ky> >Kristopher38: I do find the idea of running code locally irl and just proxying compo…
L209[22:12:48] <S​ky> This was done in CC
L210[22:12:53] <S​ky> It was slow as hell indeed
L211[22:13:53] <Kristo​pher38> Basically they provide a public list of servers that can be reached by both connecting parties, but said parties cannot connect to each other
L212[22:14:36] <Kristo​pher38> And you can connect and tunnel your traffic through them
L213[22:16:17] <Kristo​pher38> The only downside (upside?) is that they require you to use TLS which is really heavy computationally in OC
L214[22:19:54] <S​ky> TLS addon card when
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L216[22:32:41] <Kristo​pher38> Correction: it only requires you to use TLS for the initial connection negotiation, later you can use plaintext
L217[22:37:20] <Ocawes​ome101> playing with adding a C compiler to my 486 linux build
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