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<S3>
>Michiyo: `It's counterintuitive but SAS drives do not support
"SMART". SMART i…
L2[00:02:15]
<S3> Yeah,
S.M.A.R.T. is actually an ATA standard
L3[00:03:38] <Amanda> But what standard is
S.M.R.T. under?
L4[00:27:42] <Izzy> ID10T
L5[00:48:05]
<Sky>
@Michiyo This guy?
L7[00:48:27]
<Sky>
<@1090699051294539976> (`1090699051294539976`)
L8[00:50:05]
<Michiyo>
>Sky: <@124625753240240132> This guy?
L10[00:50:05]
<Michiyo>
Yes
L11[00:54:40]
<Sky> Heres
some more funny words
L13[00:59:15]
<Michiyo>
Jokes on hom my ip has changed twice since then. But ok
L14[00:59:19]
<Michiyo>
Them*
L15[01:04:00] <stephan48> oh i would
implore them to try :P if they are as dumb as they claim they will
do it from home. there is seldomly a better slap on the wrist than
a nice police visit to their parents home.
L16[01:04:34] <Amanda> Inb4 they didn't
knock down Roblox, that just got up banned because they were idiots
using it from their moms computer
L17[01:04:50] <Amanda> s/up ba/up ba/
L18[01:05:12] <Amanda> Goddesses damned it
Android, ip is a word
L19[01:13:46] <Amanda> Like, I know someone
who (used to?) Work at Roblox, they're not getting knocked down by
a skiddie on his mom's DSL connection
L20[01:41:43] *
Amanda curls up around Elfi, meows about her plans for tomorrow,
like setting up foxentraps around the house so they can't start
banging on the windows next
L21[01:42:22] <Amanda> Night girls
L22[01:42:25]
<Sky>
>Amanda: Like, I know someone who (used to?) Work at Roblox,
they're not gettin…
L23[01:42:25]
<Sky> bUt
My MoM hAs GiGaBiT /s
L24[01:42:28]
<Sky> good
night
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Joins: Hawk777
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L26[02:09:38] <CompanionCube>
%tonkout
L27[02:09:40] <MichiBot> Yay!
CompanionCube! You beat Vaur's previous record of 3 hours, 21
minutes and 48 seconds (By 1 hour, 13 minutes and 9 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L28[02:09:42] <MichiBot> CompanionCube has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk
points! plus 0.003 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 0.65563481. Position #2 Need
0.00121758 more points to pass Forecaster!
L29[02:10:04]
<SoBinary>
ah ffs
L30[02:10:32]
<SoBinary>
i blame telepathy
L31[02:21:26]
<Michiyo>
@Sky To confirm, the above user you @'d is the same person,
yeah?
L32[02:22:05]
<Michiyo>
Eh, you said "good night" so I'm going to assume that the
answer is yes.
L33[02:22:08]
<Sky>
yes
L34[02:22:14]
<Sky> i
said good night to amanda lol
L35[02:22:34]
<Sky>
darkf10233 appears to be seb, because right after you banned them
they started complaining in CC discord
L36[02:22:36]
<Michiyo>
Thanks.
L37[02:23:32]
<Sky>
>Sky: Heres some more funny words
L39[02:23:33]
<Sky> and
these messages further confirm, because they're bragging about
knowing your ip
L40[02:23:49]
<Michiyo>
Yeah, I just wanted to make 100% sure before I randomly banned
someone.
L41[02:23:52]
<Sky>
yeah
L42[02:24:15]
<Michiyo> I
detest skiddies
L43[02:24:22]
<Michiyo>
And that's all they are.
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Joins: Michiyo (~Michiyo@50.39.219.205)
L45[02:24:56] zsh
sets mode: +o on Michiyo
L46[02:57:15]
<PwnagePineapple (He/Him)> %tonk
L47[02:57:16] <MichiBot> Boo-yah!
PwnagePineapple (He/Him)! You beat CompanionCube's previous
record of <0 (By 47 minutes and 35 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L48[02:57:17] <MichiBot> PwnagePineapple
(He/Him)'s new record is 47 minutes and 35 seconds! PwnagePineapple
(He/Him) also gained 0.00079 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #9. Need 0.02247257 more points to pass
RedstoneParkour!
L49[03:01:40] ⇦
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(Quit: Leaving.)
L50[03:45:31]
<Forecaster> Scary stuff
L51[03:49:28]
<Michiyo>
I'd feel sorry for whoever they are "dos-ing" but I doubt
they even notice.
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L53[04:03:43]
<Forecaster> I feel sorry for anyone
forced to interact with him
L54[04:14:33]
<Forecaster> %sip
L55[04:14:35] <MichiBot> You drink a
proprietary tuna potion (New!). Forecaster gains the ability to
summon safety pins until someone turns off a lamp.
L56[04:15:17]
<Forecaster> no one turn off any lamps
until I've crashed the global pin economy
L57[04:15:37]
<Michiyo>
Umm, my lights auto shut off at midnight though
L58[04:15:44]
<Forecaster> aww
L59[04:15:59]
<Forecaster> but that's not *someone*
turning off a lamp
L60[04:33:16]
<Michiyo>
Does AI count as "someone" I have Alexa scheduled to do
it.. lol
L61[04:33:21]
<Michiyo>
"AI"
L62[04:35:06]
<SoBinary>
%tonk
L63[04:35:07] <MichiBot> Darn! SoBinary!
You beat PwnagePineapple (He/Him)'s previous record of 47 minutes
and 35 seconds (By 50 minutes and 15 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L64[04:35:08] <MichiBot> SoBinary's new
record is 1 hour, 37 minutes and 51 seconds! SoBinary also gained
0.00084 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need
0.08799783 more points to pass CompanionCube!
L65[04:48:38]
<Forecaster> definitely not
L67[05:48:16]
<Forecaster> this looks potentially
bad
L68[05:51:08]
<Forecaster> oh, apparently this is a
result of overheating
L69[05:51:39]
<Forecaster> which is not surprising
considering the case fans are broken
L70[05:52:56]
<Forecaster> I guess I should replace
them
L71[06:05:26]
<Vaur>
%sip
L72[06:05:27] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy
chocolate potion (New!). Someone just had some of Vaur's favourite
food and they didn't get any!
L73[06:41:52]
<Forecaster> it just restarted
again...
L74[06:42:16]
<Forecaster> I may need to just go find
someplace that sells computer fans and get a few right now...
L75[06:43:20]
<Michiyo>
Yeaaaaah....
L76[06:43:47]
<Forecaster> the case only has that one
fan though, I didn't think it'd do that much
L77[06:43:59]
<Forecaster> maybe I should also take
apart the cpu heatsink and clean it
L78[06:45:43]
<Forecaster> probably doesn't help that I
have the servers in a tiny room with no ventilation...
L79[06:45:51]
<Forecaster> I should move them into the
basement asap
L80[06:47:49]
<Michiyo> I
have a fan in my rack ducted straight out a window
L81[06:47:53]
<Michiyo>
they get waaarm
L82[06:48:21]
<Forecaster> The metal case is warm to the
touch...
L83[06:48:44]
<Forecaster> Where the PSU is
L84[06:48:54]
<Michiyo>
yea, that seems ungood
L85[06:49:40]
<Forecaster> The PSU has a working fan at
least
L86[07:02:07]
<Forecaster> gonna get some new fans in a
bit, then move the servers down, which will require some more floor
cable™️
L87[07:05:08]
<Forecaster> should be cooler in the
basement which will hopefully help a lot
L88[07:06:27] <Corded> *
<Forecaster> waits for re-encoding to finish so progress
wont be lost before shutting down media server
L89[07:08:56]
<Forecaster> each episode that's over 1 GB
takes over an hour to process...
L90[07:29:34]
<Forecaster> there we go, 1 hour and 16
minutes for episode 2
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L92[07:44:02]
<SoBinary>
%tonkout
L93[07:44:05] <MichiBot> Fudge! SoBinary!
You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 37 minutes and 51
seconds (By 1 hour, 31 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L94[07:44:06] <MichiBot> SoBinary has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points!
plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.57463699, Position #3 Need 0.08099783 more points to pass
CompanionCube!
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L97[10:12:18] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L98[10:17:17]
<Forecaster> Fans acquired, now I just
have to... carry the servers downstairs... sigh
L99[11:46:09] *
Amanda meows and looks around
L100[11:48:01]
<SoBinary>
ah screw this
L101[11:48:04]
<SoBinary>
%tonk
L102[11:48:04] <MichiBot> Awesome!
SoBinary! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 4 hours
and 4 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L103[11:48:05] <MichiBot> SoBinary's new
record is 4 hours and 4 minutes! No points gained for stealing from
yourself. (Lost out on 0.00407)
L104[11:57:08] ⇦
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L105[14:04:48]
<Forecaster> %sip
L106[14:04:48] <MichiBot> You drink a
steady purple potion (New!). Everything Forecaster says is now in
Comic Sans until they see a unicorn.
L107[14:04:58]
<Forecaster> Ohno
L109[15:10:14]
<Michiyo>
yeah... that'ddo it
L110[15:14:41]
<Vaur>
%sip
L111[15:14:41] <MichiBot> You drink a
knifey caterium potion (New!). Vaur gains a negligible amount of
luck.
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L115[15:54:09]
<Forecaster> Both servers in their new
home, the storage room in the basement
L116[15:54:22]
<Forecaster> All clean (mostly) with new
fans
L117[15:54:24]
<SoBinary>
%tonkout
L118[15:54:25] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
SoBinary! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours and 4
minutes (By 2 minutes and 20 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L119[15:54:26] <MichiBot> SoBinary has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points!
plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.58463699, Position #3 Need 0.07099783 more points to pass
CompanionCube!
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L122[16:00:31]
<Michiyo>
Hmm... why didn't Corded relay Amanda's rejoin...
L123[16:00:41] <Amanda> Ghosts.
L125[16:02:52]
<Michiyo>
That's pretty awesome.
L126[16:02:56]
<Forecaster> This move was paid for in
blood, as I stupidly stuck my thumb into one of the fans
L127[16:03:06]
<Forecaster> it turns out the fan blades
are very very pointy
L128[16:03:43]
<Michiyo>
Oof... a long time ago I was running my PC with the side panel off,
and I accidentally stuck my foot into said PC, and into my CPU fan,
and cut a chunk out of my toe ._.
L129[16:04:04]
<Forecaster> ouch...
L130[16:04:18]
<Forecaster> I only got two separate
punctures in my thumb
L131[16:04:20]
<Michiyo> I
was on Teamspeak at the time, and I've STILL not lived that
down/
L132[16:04:43]
<Michiyo>
Oh TS2.... those were the days
L133[16:05:03]
<Forecaster> also, I no longer have any
floor cables!
L134[16:05:18]
<Forecaster> now I have low-hanging
cables™️
L135[16:05:21]
<Michiyo>
Huzzah! I wish I could do something about my floor cables...
L136[16:05:53]
<Michiyo>
My fiber is hanging from the ceiling, but I have a thick extension
cord for my AC, and a cat5 for the rest of my room on the
floor
L137[16:05:58] <Amanda> one last
reconnect, hopefully
L139[16:06:45]
<Forecaster> look at this, you can barely
see them right
L141[16:07:37]
<Michiyo>
Same, right? lol
L142[16:08:01]
<Forecaster> I'd say about the same level
of professional
L143[16:08:12]
<Forecaster> said level is of course
*very*
L144[16:08:20]
<Michiyo>
of course.
L145[16:08:23]
<Michiyo>
Am pro.
L146[16:08:48]
<Forecaster> I do have a spool of cat6 I'm
going to nail up in a slightly more subtle fashion
L147[16:09:06]
<Forecaster> but I'm not in a hurry with
that since it involves drilling holes in the floor/ceiling
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L150[16:30:12]
<Forecaster> one drawback is I will no
longer hear the server beep upon restarting
L151[16:30:25]
<Forecaster> but I will know if it has
since Komga doesn't autostart currently
L152[16:43:30]
<Sky>
Clearly the answer is to get a raspberry pi and make *it* beep when
the server restarts
L153[16:45:05]
<Forecaster> yeah, I should also make it
simulate the fan noise I no longer hear from them
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L168[16:48:14] ***
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L170[17:09:01]
<Michiyo>
My servers are down the hall and down stairs from me, and I can
STILL hear their fans lol
L171[17:09:15]
<Michiyo>
And the fan for that damned switch like HOLY SHIT it's not that
serious dude... ._.
L172[17:09:31]
<Forecaster> mine are now two stairs
down
L173[17:09:40]
<Forecaster> from my bedroom, instead of
in the next room over
L174[17:09:49]
<Forecaster> it's very nice and quiet
now
L175[17:10:41]
<Michiyo>
It's nice and quiet when I have my headphones on and have a video
playing lol
L176[17:22:26]
<Forecaster> that wouldn't help when
trying to sleep
L177[17:22:30]
<Forecaster> 😛
L178[17:30:22]
<Forecaster> I can't even sleep with
glasses on, let alone headphones
L179[17:30:52]
<Michiyo>
Well, I didn't say I slept with my headphones on did I? lol
L180[17:31:31]
<Michiyo> I
have a box fan on, or my AC on generally now that it's summer so I
have to deal with THAT at night *shrug*
L181[17:31:59]
<Michiyo>
Also my S/O can't sleep without the TV so even more bs noise when
trying to sleep, so the servers are the least of my issue
L182[17:48:52]
<Forecaster> I now have no noise at all
with my main computer off which is lovely
L183[17:48:57]
<Forecaster> 😄
L184[17:49:13]
<Forecaster> The servers were absolutely
awful with the door open
L185[17:49:32]
<Forecaster> I don't have an AC
L186[17:51:34]
<Michiyo> I
don't enjoy 95+F/35+C temps in my room..
L187[18:11:26] <Amanda> %choose snacks or
heated snackss
L188[18:11:26] <MichiBot> Amanda: You
hear a faraway lamp yell "heated snackss!".
L189[18:11:37] <Amanda> Oh.
L190[18:11:45] <Amanda> I'm out of heated
snacks
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L193[18:17:19]
<Forecaster> The temp here is around 25 at
most currently
L194[18:17:25]
<Forecaster> Cooler at night
L195[18:23:11]
<Michiyo>
It's cooling down soon, but it was in the 90's earlier this
week
L196[19:12:42] <Amanda> %remindme 20m
check on renovate-bot
L197[19:12:42] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"check on renovate-bot" in 20m at 05/19/2023 07:32:42
PM
L198[19:22:48]
<Vaur>
%tonk
L199[19:22:48] <MichiBot> Eureka! Vaur!
You beat SoBinary's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 28
minutes and 23 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L200[19:22:49] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 3 hours, 28 minutes and 23 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.00347 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #5. Need
0.12411806 more points to pass TechTastic!
L201[19:28:42]
<Vaur>
%sip
L202[19:28:43] <MichiBot> You drink a
diluted silver potion (New!). The bottle turns into a stainless
steel trident.
L203[19:32:42] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
check on renovate-bot
L204[19:42:38]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> virtio is a *fun* standard
L205[19:42:43]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> ... which understand nothing of
L206[19:42:56]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> ... which means that I cannot use any of it
L207[19:43:30]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> (since I cannot find any good virtio rust libraries that
dont require something weird like allocating a continuis block of
memory)
L208[19:45:44] <Amanda> Pretty sure that's
a requirement for virtio in the first place
L209[19:45:52] <Amanda> but @Nadja would
know better
L210[20:06:22] <Amanda> %p
L211[20:06:24] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Amanda 0.58s
L212[20:20:38]
<Forecaster> %sip
L213[20:20:38] <MichiBot> You drink a wild
unobtanium potion (New!). Forecaster: Nothing seemed to
happen...
L214[20:20:45]
<Forecaster> Boo
L215[20:52:01]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> %sip
L216[20:52:01] <MichiBot> You drink a big
stainless steel potion (New!). walksanator. B⃢ot. watches
helplessly as 0.005 tonk points take flight into the horizon. (Rem.
uses: 0)
L217[20:52:11]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> wah
L218[21:09:08]
<Sky>
%sip
L219[21:09:08] <MichiBot> You drink a
dangerous void potion (New!). Sky turns into a crocodile until
someone stops looking at them.
L220[21:09:15]
<Sky>
🐊
L222[21:37:03] *
Amanda flops down around Elfi, reads stories to her about cute
girls and their adventures
L223[21:41:12]
<Nadja>
Amanda: no no you're entirely right. That'd a requirement for
virtio.
L224[21:42:23]
<Nadja> And
@walksanator. B⃢ot. doing systems programming on bare metal without
wanting to touch a lot of very low systems with a very short stick
is not going to get you far. Allocators are the least complicated
of your woes.
L225[21:47:04]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> Yeah because I think the next thing I will have to touch
is interrupts (which I probally should have touched before
virtio)
L226[21:48:08]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> (Ofc IDK why the virtio crate that I can find requires me
to allocate the memory on my own when I allready have a allocator
setup)
L227[21:49:18]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> Also gonna have to make the allocator I coped from the
example a bit less dumb
L228[21:50:19]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> (If you tell it to dealloc it does nothing, if you do
alloc it moves the allocation pointer to the "right"
which isn't that called a memory leak)
L229[21:53:29]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> I should also probally start taking advantage of the fact
that oc2 has ram that I can insert
L230[21:55:12]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> (Also probally start making use of OpenSBI for some
things since currently only get the hart and fdt pointer)
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L234[23:10:11] <CreeperWeeper> anyone
online?
L235[23:11:17] <CompanionCube> maybe
L236[23:11:47] <CreeperWeeper> hmm... I
don't see anyone
L237[23:12:29] <CreeperWeeper> Does anyone
have something/a utility I can use to download code from GitHub and
execute it?
L238[23:14:06] <CreeperWeeper> Should
Iupgrade my diesel control computer to Tier 2 and an internet
card?
L239[23:17:19]
<Michiyo>
There is a program on OPPM that may do what you want if you want to
download an entire repo.
L240[23:17:43] <CreeperWeeper> What's t
called?
L241[23:17:46]
<Michiyo>
the alternative is to just wget the "raw" link if you're
only doing a 1 / a few files
L242[23:17:58] <CreeperWeeper> From a lua
file!
L243[23:18:02]
<Michiyo>
Creatively it's called "gitrepo"
L245[23:19:14] <CreeperWeeper> It needs to
be something that can download a script from the web, then run
it.
L246[23:19:26]
<Michiyo>
...
L247[23:20:13] <CreeperWeeper> It needs to
be in a lua script. though
L248[23:20:34] <CreeperWeeper> i.e not run
from the shell
L249[23:20:48]
<Michiyo>
Right, well, good luck.
L250[23:21:27] <CreeperWeeper> Is there a
way to run shell commands from lua?
L252[23:23:38] <CreeperWeeper> That
seems... "decent"
L253[23:26:22] <CreeperWeeper> I just
found ("os.execute")...
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