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L2[00:09:57] <Amanda> fucking FINALLY!
L3[00:10:31] * Amanda collapses into a pile of anxity around Elfi, theroughly in deep spoon debt from this "simple" migration being a massive nightmare to actually d
L4[00:10:33] <Amanda> o
L5[00:46:15] <Amanda> %oclogs
L6[00:46:15] <MichiBot> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/?dir=logs/%23oc
L7[00:48:53] <Amanda> @Michiyo you need to stab fore, the css he gave you is weird on mobile:
L8[00:49:14] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/sOuIMmhQRYVdVUrawxYVTnia/Screenshot_20221217-194722.png
L9[00:51:50] <Amanda> %remindme 12h make sure oomd is dead in nixos configs
L10[00:51:50] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "make sure oomd is dead in nixos configs" in 12h at 12/18/2022 12:51:50 PM
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L12[02:18:58] <Amanda> %choose zzzmew or veg out some more first
L13[02:18:58] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Elementary dear Watson, "zzzmew" is the obvious choice!
L14[02:19:38] * Amanda lays her head on elfi, does a heccen zzzmew
L15[04:28:12] <Forec​aster> Weird? Weird how?
L16[05:21:12] <Va​ur> %tonk
L17[05:21:12] <MichiBot> Shoot! Va​ur! You beat Redston​eParkour's previous record of 6 hours, 19 minutes and 3 seconds (By 1 hour, 42 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L18[05:21:13] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 8 hours, 1 minute and 32 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.01197 (0.00171 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L19[06:26:23] <Ocawes​ome101> @! LittleTimmy52 ! what errors are you getting?
L20[07:44:32] <Forec​aster> Welp. It turns out that I've been way too careful with limpet usage while mining
L21[07:45:45] <Forec​aster> seems you get better yield both per limpet and per hour if you just spam limpets and mine asteroids as quickly as possible...
L22[08:00:13] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/2makxx2w
L23[08:00:17] <Forec​aster> Stats are fun
L24[08:11:57] <Forec​aster> (The two last entries are mining runs where I spent limpets without a care in the world)
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L33[09:53:55] <Forec​aster> %sip
L34[09:53:55] <MichiBot> You drink a sour pussplum potion (New!). A large figure suddenly swings an axe at Forecaster! Forecaster takes 2d​10 => [3,4] axe damage. (9 vs DC 16)
L35[09:54:16] <Forec​aster> ows
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L42[12:32:21] <Neo_M​orphic> hi, how i do that a robot check its inventory for a certain value so i can start a operation when its true?
L43[12:32:54] <Neo_M​orphic> eg check 16 cobble if so go wiht other scrip
L44[12:32:58] <Forec​aster> what "certain value"
L45[12:33:27] <Forec​aster> the methods are listed on the wiki
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L48[12:36:16] <Kristo​pher38> look at the inventory controller api on the wiki
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L50[12:37:35] <Enderman> Hi
L51[12:39:00] <Neo_M​orphic> >Kristopher38: look at the inventory controller api on the wiki
L52[12:39:00] <Neo_M​orphic> thx, now i know where to star from 🙂
L53[12:39:56] <Enderman>
L54[12:41:48] <Redston​eParkour> %tonk
L55[12:41:48] <MichiBot> I'm sorry RedstoneParkour, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 8 hours, 1 minute and 32 seconds this time. 7 hours, 20 minutes and 35 seconds were wasted! Missed by 40 minutes and 56 seconds!
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L57[12:51:50] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: make sure oomd is dead in nixos configs
L58[12:54:00] <Forec​aster> Great, now I need to fix my ebook collection as well
L59[12:54:23] <Forec​aster> seems to a proper reader it's missing stuff to organize it properly
L60[12:54:56] <Forec​aster> and all the Discworld books are in mobi format which it ignores
L61[12:55:05] <Forec​aster> so I'll need something to convert them to epub
L62[12:56:55] <Amanda> Forecaster that's not the bottom of the logs. The bar for the bottom takes up 2/3rd of the screen
L63[13:06:46] <Amanda> And it covers the logs
L64[13:08:22] <CompanionCube> %inv add 2872.9 grams of alcohol
L65[13:08:22] * MichiBot summons '2872.9 grams of alcohol' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L66[13:19:50] <Forec​aster> oh, I didn't even see the screenshot
L67[13:20:12] <Forec​aster> I just followed the link on my phone and went to todays page and saw that it looked fine
L68[13:20:20] <Forec​aster> what resolution is that?
L69[13:22:56] <Amanda> Forecaster not sure? It's in firefox though, which might play a part
L70[13:23:14] <Amanda> firefox for android
L71[13:25:01] <Forec​aster> the resolution is whatever resolution your device screen is
L72[13:27:02] <Amanda> Ah, in that case it's the resolution of the screenshot, I didn't crop it at all
L73[13:30:03] <Amanda> 2340 × 1080 according to a quick Google of my phone model
L74[13:30:18] <Amanda> 432 ppi
L75[13:31:34] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/2lz9ps89
L76[13:31:34] <Amanda> 13:6 aspect ratio
L77[13:31:35] <Forec​aster> Reproduced it
L78[13:33:45] <Forec​aster> seems the bottom bar starts expanding at widths below 1000
L79[13:34:28] <Forec​aster> well, with a static height of 975
L80[13:37:00] <Forec​aster> weird, I have a similar ratio on my phone, but I don't have that issue, at least not in Chrome
L81[14:01:29] <Va​ur> %sip
L82[14:01:29] <MichiBot> You drink a hairy ocean potion (New!). Vaur suddenly forgets a random piece of trivia.
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L91[15:35:47] <S​ky> damn
L92[15:35:50] <S​ky> %tonk
L93[15:35:50] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Sky, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 8 hours, 1 minute and 32 seconds this time. 2 hours, 54 minutes and 1 second were wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 7 minutes and 31 seconds!
L94[15:35:54] <S​ky> WHAT
L95[15:36:06] <S​ky> ah
L96[15:36:08] <S​ky> redstone tonked
L97[15:36:10] <S​ky> damnit redstone
L98[15:38:25] <Amanda> Hrm. I'm going to cry if this turns out to be a problem....
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L100[16:09:59] <Forec​aster> problems? there are never any problems with software!
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L104[17:30:52] <Forec​aster> there's a lot of amanda clones appearing and disappearing recently
L105[17:31:28] <Amanda> This is why I may cry, If I end up having to revert what I spent 4h doing yesterday. I'm not sure but I may have fixed it
L106[17:32:51] <Amanda> Because atm it seems the NixOS container I set up to run matrix in gets restarted every time the host is rebooted.
L107[17:33:04] <Amanda> er
L108[17:33:22] <Amanda> not rebooted, but the config gets updated
L109[17:36:35] <Forec​aster> that's unfortunate >:
L110[17:39:35] <Amanda> yes, very
L111[17:39:54] <Amanda> Espically considering how far into spoon debt those 4h sent me
L112[17:43:20] <Forec​aster> oh good, Calibre can convert from mobi to epub
L113[17:55:22] <Amanda> %choose split secrets to seperate input?
L114[17:55:22] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Ah... well, I'd say wait an hour.
L115[17:55:43] <Amanda> Wait until I know if It'll be necessary, sure
L116[17:56:20] <Amanda> Though I'm pretty sure it will be
L117[18:21:24] <Na​dja> https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/1604531265419591681 so, I guess now's the time for bets if your account gets killed before you can kill it yourself :D
L118[18:22:11] <Forec​aster> Banning people is a great method of user retention
L119[18:22:13] <Forec​aster> tried and true
L120[18:24:28] <CompanionCube> worked for freenode, right?
L121[18:25:18] <Forec​aster> I'm sure they have a lot of free nodes now
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L128[18:57:30] <Amanda> Looks like it may be necessary...
L129[19:01:54] <Po​key> >Forecaster: I'm sure they have a lot of free nodes now
L130[19:01:54] <Po​key> Ba dum tss
L131[19:02:01] <Po​key> Libera FTW
L132[19:11:32] <Amanda> Jeez, I should have read the nixbuild.net docs sooner. That's a massive build time difference: https://woodpecker.camnet.site/homelab/nixos
L133[19:11:53] <Po​key> D:
L134[19:12:14] <Amanda> 7m21s vs 48m46s
L135[19:12:18] <Po​key> What am I seeing the CI/CD pipeline of?
L136[19:12:25] <Amanda> My NixOS configurations
L137[19:12:30] <Po​key> Ah
L138[19:15:14] <Forec​aster> %sip
L139[19:15:15] <MichiBot> You drink a woolly avesmingo potion (New!). Forecaster's eyes turn silver until someone turns on a lamp.
L140[19:48:56] <Edouar​dLeBeau> how do i use an eeprom
L141[19:49:28] <Edouar​dLeBeau> like, how do i configure it
L142[19:55:44] <Forec​aster> configure it?
L143[19:56:14] <Edouar​dLeBeau> yeah<
L144[19:56:31] <Forec​aster> if you mean how to flash it you put your code in a file, then use the `flash` program in OpenOS to copy the file contents into it
L145[19:56:33] <Edouar​dLeBeau> im tryna link a keypad to a security door
L146[19:56:59] <Edouar​dLeBeau> oh ok
L147[19:58:32] <Edouar​dLeBeau> where do i put the OpenOs tho
L148[19:59:36] <Forec​aster> what
L149[19:59:50] <Edouar​dLeBeau> where do i install the openOS
L150[20:00:00] <Edouar​dLeBeau> i dont understand this mod sorry lol
L151[20:00:28] <Forec​aster> to a harddrive
L152[20:00:33] <Edouar​dLeBeau> ok
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L154[20:03:11] <Edouar​dLeBeau> umm
L155[20:03:29] <Edouar​dLeBeau> how do i use the "flash" program u said
L156[20:03:30] <Edouar​dLeBeau> ...
L157[20:11:20] <Edouar​dLeBeau> nvm i got it
L158[20:24:06] <Amanda> Now for hopefully my last restart of matrix
L159[20:24:43] <Edouar​dLeBeau> ok so, i did the computer but how do i open a security door with a pad
L160[20:24:47] <Edouar​dLeBeau> keypad
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L163[20:32:21] <Amanda> Now, do I check if this actually did what I think, or just consider it good enough
L164[20:32:35] <Amanda> %choose halucinate or verify it's working
L165[20:32:36] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Somebody once told me to roll with "halucinate"
L166[20:32:44] * Amanda curls up around Elfi, reads stories to her
L167[20:37:50] <Po​key> Does Plan9K bear any relation to Plan9?
L168[20:39:06] <Amanda> Only in name inspiration
L169[20:39:32] <Amanda> But it's super broken, and will be removed for 1.8
L170[20:41:19] <Po​key> >Amanda: But it's super broken, and will be removed for 1.8
L171[20:41:20] <Po​key> Suppose I just won't care about it then
L172[20:53:23] <Forec​aster> hooray, my preferred encoder has woken up finally
L173[20:53:48] <Forec​aster> apparently sportsball prevented any releases for the last two weeks
L174[22:03:24] <Po​key> Just out of curiosity am I right in thinking OpenOS is single user and nobody has done a multi user mode?
L175[22:04:36] <Forec​aster> what do you mean by multi user mode
L176[22:04:42] <Po​key> think linux
L177[22:04:47] <Po​key> think multiple home directories
L178[22:04:55] <Po​key> think login on startup
L179[22:05:07] <Po​key> and think superuser = root and sudo
L180[22:05:35] <Forec​aster> you can enable logins somewhere
L181[22:06:03] <Forec​aster> never used it so I don't know what else that does
L182[22:06:49] <Po​key> I see
L183[22:07:58] <Ocawes​ome101> i didn't think openos supported multiuser
L184[22:08:01] <Ocawes​ome101> but ULOS 2 does! :)
L185[22:09:50] <Po​key> >Ocawesome101: but ULOS 2 does! :)
L186[22:09:50] <Po​key> Interesting
L187[22:11:44] <Ocawes​ome101> <https://github.com/oc-ulos/ulos-2&gt;
L188[22:12:11] <Po​key> Indeed, found
L189[22:12:15] <Po​key> Working out building
L190[22:12:25] <Ocawes​ome101> you don't need to build it - i should clarify that in the readme
L191[22:12:28] <Ocawes​ome101> just use the installer
L192[22:12:32] <Ocawes​ome101> see the latest release
L193[22:13:20] <Na​dja> Keep in mind that OC doesn't allow for seperate priviledge levels hardware-side, so there is no way to enforce priviledges and separation of users
L194[22:14:06] <Po​key> blehh
L195[22:14:08] <Ocawes​ome101> yeah - ULOS 2 doesn't support e.g. file encryption, though it does do file permissions
L196[22:14:08] <Po​key> Okay
L197[22:14:21] <Ocawes​ome101> so as long as you're _within_ ULOS 2 it's all protected
L198[22:14:49] <Po​key> If I ran a program though, not so
L199[22:15:05] <Ocawes​ome101> if you ran that program within ULOS 2 then it would also be restricted accordingly
L200[22:15:26] <Ocawes​ome101> (bear in mind that ULOS 2 is very not compatible with OpenOS.)
L201[22:15:54] <Po​key> I had wondered
L202[22:16:09] <Na​dja> how does ULOS restrict that? I assume by not exposing raw I/O to user programs?
L203[22:16:27] <Ocawes​ome101> yeah it only gives user programs `io` and restricts component calls to root
L204[22:16:42] <Po​key> Ah sandboxing
L205[22:16:46] <Ocawes​ome101> (there's `luaposix` too, but that and `io` are both built on top of the syscall layer)
L206[22:16:47] <Ocawes​ome101> yep
L207[22:18:25] <Po​key> Not done sandboxing on anything above Lua 5.3
L208[22:18:58] <Amanda> %choose halucinate more or spaaace
L209[22:18:58] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: The sands of time whisper to me... they're saying "halucinate more".
L210[22:19:42] <Ocawes​ome101> it's not too different. you could break ULOS 2's sandbox with the `debug` API, except that OC's version of that is heavily restricted because you would also be able to break the _mod's_ sandbox with the raw `debug` API.
L211[22:20:21] <Po​key> no getfenv or setvenv though
L212[22:20:26] <Po​key> Used to love those functions
L213[22:30:00] <Po​key> >Ocawesome101: just use the installer
L214[22:30:01] <Po​key> Okay got it installed
L215[22:30:20] <Ocawes​ome101> excellent
L216[22:30:27] <Po​key> I do not see default creds anywhere
L217[22:30:34] <Ocawes​ome101> you set them up at install time
L218[22:30:48] <Po​key> It did not ask me for them
L219[22:30:51] <Ocawes​ome101> ah
L220[22:30:56] <Ocawes​ome101> well in that case it'll be `root`/`root`
L221[22:31:11] <Po​key> feels very familiar so far
L222[22:31:34] <Ocawes​ome101> if you run `mount`, what's mounted at the rootfs?
L223[22:31:43] <Ocawes​ome101> just verifying you're not still in the installer image
L224[22:31:49] <Po​key> mtarfs(c
L225[22:31:56] <Ocawes​ome101> ah you're still in the installer image
L226[22:31:59] <Po​key> oh
L227[22:32:06] <Po​key> hahahaha
L228[22:32:07] <Ocawes​ome101> run `install`
L229[22:32:12] <Ocawes​ome101> sometimes the installer craps itself
L230[22:32:14] <Po​key> "reboot" OC: nope
L231[22:32:28] <Ocawes​ome101> it's _supposed_ to install, prompt you for credentials, and then reboot
L232[22:32:43] <Po​key> booting OpenOS from floppy again
L233[22:32:46] <Ocawes​ome101> and it does that every time in ocvm, but not always in-game, for reasons unknown to me
L234[22:33:16] <Po​key> familiarity quickly disappeared
L235[22:33:18] <Po​key> not df
L236[22:33:22] <Po​key> no hostnamectl
L237[22:33:39] <Ocawes​ome101> it's relatively barebones at this point - i've been focusing on getting core stuff working
L238[22:33:54] <Ocawes​ome101> e.g. package management, permissions, etc
L239[22:34:16] <Po​key> Intend to make an OpenOS compatibility layer?#
L240[22:34:27] <Ocawes​ome101> i've considered it and it's almost certainly feasible
L241[22:34:38] <Ocawes​ome101> though it'd add even more heft to an already relatively hefty system
L242[22:34:59] <Ocawes​ome101> oh! another neat thing ULOS 2 does (not sure if you saw this somewhere) is preemptive multitasking
L243[22:35:07] <Po​key> It plopped me back on the login prompt
L244[22:35:26] <Po​key> https://tinyurl.com/2ptw84vl
L245[22:35:48] <Ocawes​ome101> `umount /install`
L246[22:36:13] <Po​key> There we go
L247[22:36:30] <Po​key> >Ocawesome101: oh! another neat thing ULOS 2 does (not sure if you saw this somewhere) …
L248[22:36:30] <Po​key> I do not know enough generally to understand the implications of this
L249[22:36:43] <S​ky> ulos2 wacky
L250[22:36:45] <Po​key> I am a CC guy, CC built my career, I am only just playing with OC
L251[22:37:02] <S​ky> CC is infact poggers :p
L252[22:37:02] <S​ky> But having a giant server rack with OC is awesome too
L253[22:37:03] <Ocawes​ome101> the practical upshot is that if a program runs a loop without ever yielding, the system will still respond
L254[22:37:09] <Ocawes​ome101> albeit slower than normal
L255[22:37:16] <Po​key> Ah okay
L256[22:37:20] <Po​key> how does it manage that
L257[22:37:24] <Ocawes​ome101> code injection
L258[22:37:29] <Po​key> Naughty
L259[22:37:42] <Po​key> https://tinyurl.com/2evr9zd6
L260[22:38:29] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm beginning to think that's a bug in OC. either that or i've got a very subtle bug in UPT somewhere. ugh.
L261[22:39:03] <Po​key> Have you tried it in Ocelot?
L262[22:39:11] <Ocawes​ome101> i have not - that's a good idea, actually
L263[22:39:15] <Ocawes​ome101> i also wanna try it in OCVM
L264[22:39:54] <Po​key> I very much wanna get into OC heavily, just finding good goals to work with
L265[22:47:22] <Ocawes​ome101> aha, well, i might've found the issue: dangling file descriptors
L266[22:47:54] <Po​key> aha
L267[22:51:30] <Ocawes​ome101> now to track down where the hell they're coming from...
L268[22:51:49] <Po​key> debug fun
L269[22:52:06] <Po​key> Respect for what you have created though
L270[22:52:12] <Po​key> A lot of it (sadly) flies over my head
L271[22:52:31] <Po​key> I'm jealous
L272[22:52:33] <Po​key> I wanna learn
L273[23:00:27] <Ocawes​ome101> :)
L274[23:00:28] <Kristo​pher38> >Ocawesome101: aha, well, i might've found the issue: dangling file descriptors
L275[23:00:28] <Kristo​pher38> 1. port posix semantics to OC 2. ??? 3. lack of profit, you've just encumbered yourself
L276[23:00:33] <Ocawes​ome101> heh
L277[23:00:40] <Ocawes​ome101> nah, linux does that already
L278[23:01:25] <Ocawes​ome101> well, i tracked some of it down to the `component` library, which has been fixed
L279[23:01:42] <Ocawes​ome101> but _somewhere in UPT_ there's a bug where an fd isn't getting closed right, and i can't figure it out
L280[23:01:49] <Ocawes​ome101> this is almost certainly the issue tho
L281[23:02:20] <Kristo​pher38> 😔
L282[23:03:36] <Ocawes​ome101> thank goodness for OCVM logs
L283[23:06:38] <Amanda> %choose space or waves
L284[23:06:38] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I had a gold nugget for every time someone asked me about "waves"
L285[23:08:35] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime?
L286[23:08:35] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A faraway lamp replies something inaudible.
L287[23:08:47] * Amanda curls up around the lamp, offers Elfi some bedtime snacks
L288[23:24:44] <Forec​aster> %sip
L289[23:24:44] <MichiBot> You drink a silent weather potion (New!). It tastes sour.
L290[23:25:18] <Forec​aster> Sour weather is the worst
L291[23:27:15] <Ocawes​ome101> \o/ I FIXED IT
L292[23:27:34] <Ocawes​ome101> jesus that was annoying to fix. wound up being nothing more than an improperly written `io.lines`.
L293[23:37:40] <Po​key> >Ocawesome101: jesus that was annoying to fix. wound up being nothing more than an imp…
L294[23:37:40] <Po​key> Congrats
L295[23:37:51] <Po​key> So how come it sometimes worked?
L296[23:38:03] <Ocawes​ome101> file descriptor leaking - OC has a limit on how many open files you can have
L297[23:38:08] <Po​key> Ah
L298[23:38:15] <Po​key> No such limit on ocvm?
L299[23:40:50] <Ocawes​ome101> correct
L300[23:41:02] <Ocawes​ome101> it appears to work now - use `beta.2` instead of `beta.1` in the kickstart pastebin command
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