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L2[00:27:08] <Gek> i'm really bored rn
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L6[01:17:16] <_d> waht
L7[01:22:53] <S​ky> yo
L8[01:29:18] <_d> yo!
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L10[01:29:45] <Player32> can anyone see this
L11[01:29:48] <_d> yeah?
L12[01:29:54] <Player32> WOAH THIS IS COOL
L13[01:29:57] <_d> ?
L14[01:30:08] <Player32> I'm talking from OpenComputers IRC Chat
L15[01:30:09] <Player32> :o :o
L16[01:30:30] <_d> oh cool
L17[01:30:35] <Player32> ikr :3
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L20[01:39:17] <Mic​hiyo> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ididexapaf Oh yeah you weren't the same person nope.....
L21[01:47:23] <Amanda> @Michiyo could have been a server
L22[01:47:48] <Amanda> ... she says, having not bothered clicking the link
L23[01:48:02] <Mic​hiyo> `hsd1.ms.` residential connection in Missisippi. Yeah, it *could* be, but it's a 99.9% chance it wasn't.
L24[01:48:25] * Amanda collapses into a pile of space floof ontop of Elfi, projects her starbound game to a screen for her to watch
L25[01:53:26] <! Little​Timmy52 !> There wouldn't happen to be an emulator of open computers but for Android, wouldn't there? I like messing with oc but i don't like waiting on my trash laptop to turn on then boot an emulator or wait even longer to mess with it in Minecraft, and then overheat or die within 20 min.
L26[01:56:23] <S​ky> Cursed idea: Use Termux and run an emulator on there lol
L27[02:07:47] <Mic​hiyo> ooooooh shit. I just found a 2015 build of OpenNetworkLinux that *MAY* have what I need
L28[02:08:17] <CompanionCube> ocvm doesn't even need X11, it'd be perfect for termux lol
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L30[03:23:30] <Mic​hiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/index.php/s/mBsJcBwjZp5zgQp
L31[03:23:32] <Mic​hiyo> It's TRYING to switch!
L32[03:26:37] <Forec​aster> Hooray
L33[03:29:29] <Forec​aster> #doingitsbest
L34[03:29:41] <Mic​hiyo> I mean it IS trying, sadly it's not... working lol
L35[03:35:00] <Forec​aster> But it's doing its best!
L36[03:36:28] <Forec​aster> %sip
L37[03:36:28] <MichiBot> You drink a runny sapphire potion (New!). Forecaster's favourite hair suddenly disintegrates.
L38[03:41:48] * Amanda meows sleepily to Elfi her plans to go camping in the Canadian wilderness for when the magic apocalypse happens, so she can become a divine being and not afraid of anything
L39[03:43:32] * Amanda passes out halfway through describing her cute little storage harness she's going to wear, does a heccen zzzmew
L40[03:43:38] <Amanda> Night girls
L41[03:44:01] <Amanda> Maybe my phone won't randomly reboot tonight
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L44[05:01:42] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/2q5j6lqf
L45[05:34:25] <Mic​hiyo> lmao
L46[06:53:31] <Mic​hiyo> fuckin.. bleh
L47[06:54:25] <Mic​hiyo> This is so damn stupid. The switch doesn't save changes you make.... they went out of their way to use OverlayFS to make the system reset to defaults on reboot.
L48[06:54:33] <Mic​hiyo> and the persist system doesn't work ._.
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L50[07:41:10] <Forec​aster> You need to etch the settings into the case
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L56[09:21:33] <Redston​eParkour> %tonkout
L57[09:21:33] <MichiBot> Bingo! Redston​eParkour! You beat your own previous record of 11 hours, 55 minutes and 42 seconds (By 17 minutes and 46 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L58[09:21:34] <MichiBot> Redston​eParkour has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.012 tonk points! plus 0.022 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.60131216, Position #3 Need 1.25240045 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L59[11:16:27] <Va​ur> %sip
L60[11:16:27] <MichiBot> You drink a shining grathnode potion (New!). Vaur turns into a strawberry platypus until their next sip of water.
L61[12:45:33] * Amanda yawns, meows and looks around
L62[12:46:17] <Forec​aster> don't look! it'll ruin the surprise!
L63[12:50:14] <Amanda> Meow?
L64[12:51:37] <Forec​aster> And the surprise definitely isn't the fire over there!
L65[12:53:35] <Amanda> Oh, I just assumed that was Inari's latest escape attempt. She'll pass out from the fumes then the sprinklers will kick in
L66[12:57:45] <Amanda> I think @Inari enjoys the buzz from her tentacle plants
L67[13:01:04] <Amanda> From them burning, that is
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L70[13:27:04] <Forec​aster> Yes it was definitely Inari that started the fire, mhm
L71[13:27:52] <Amanda> Well, she is a pyromaniac
L72[13:28:18] <Amanda> That's why MichiBot gives her people's favourite clothing to burn
L73[13:29:59] <Forec​aster> `Anne's mother recently passed away, so Anne decides to carry on the family trade and become a Silver Sugar Master, a special artisan who can create magical candy. With her foul-mouthed fairy bodyguard Charles, she sets out on a journey to the capital.`
L74[13:30:02] <Forec​aster> Huh
L75[13:31:31] <Forec​aster> Unusual to see a series that centers on a male fairy
L76[13:44:22] <Forec​aster> also, gotta love when someone blatantly just copy-pasted the synopsis from the manga into TVDB https://tinyurl.com/2o2rmnyj
L77[14:43:03] <S​ky> My USB hdd is dying faster now, yayyyy
L78[14:43:03] <S​ky> a couple of weeks ago it had 8 bad sectors
L79[14:43:04] <S​ky> overnight it disconnected from my pc, i reconnected it and now theres 56 bad sectors!
L80[14:43:43] <S​ky> (and yes im taking a backup of it right now lol)
L81[14:44:22] <S​ky> oh you've gotta be fucking with me
L82[14:44:22] <S​ky> it just disconnected again
L83[14:50:19] <Forec​aster> Drill a hole in it and pour out the data into a new container
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L85[14:53:31] <Forec​aster> I'm 15% sure that will work
L86[14:55:00] <S​ky> Meh... when im done copying data off i'll see if theres warranty on it lol
L87[14:56:17] <S​ky> what fuck
L88[14:56:17] <S​ky> https://i.skystuff.games/komhCoTtoSQ6.png
L89[14:56:50] <Forec​aster> definitely drill the hole first, then check the warranty
L90[15:00:36] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L91[15:00:36] <MichiBot> Willikers! Forec​aster! You beat Redston​eParkour's previous record of <0 (By 5 hours, 39 minutes and 2 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L92[15:00:37] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 5 hours, 39 minutes and 2 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00565 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.93693415 more points to pass Va​ur!
L93[15:01:13] <Forec​aster> also %sip
L94[15:01:14] <MichiBot> You drink a diluted black potion (New!). Forecaster has a single tear roll down their cheek for some reason.
L95[15:01:27] <Forec​aster> My tear! I needed that later!
L96[15:13:33] <Va​ur> %sip
L97[15:13:33] <MichiBot> You drink a soft iron potion (New!). A bard starts playing a lute behind Vaur. They don't stop.
L98[15:16:19] <S​ky> %sip
L99[15:16:20] <MichiBot> You drink a salty coralcreep potion (New!). Sky now has a mullet until they use "Rather Rather" in a sentence.
L100[18:19:46] <Po​key> Just messing around with OC2. Trying to find where the device tree is being assembled. Any pointers?
L101[18:20:26] <Po​key> Searching "device tree" is not being very helpful
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L107[19:22:23] <Na​dja> >Pokey: Just messing around with OC2. Trying to find where the device tree is be…
L108[19:22:24] <Na​dja> Piecemeal from class inheritance and instanciation. Most all of it happens in sedna but you can add your own from OC2 or dependent code by instanciating and registering a class of `DeviceTreeProvider`. For the sedna part see https://github.com/fnuecke/sedna/tree/main/src/main/java/li/cil/sedna/devicetree
L109[19:25:21] <Na​dja> The SimpleFrameBuffer used by the projector is one of such providers built in OC2. It's in package `li.cil.oc2.common.vm`, `device` and `provider` respectively.
L110[19:35:24] <Po​key> >Nadja: Piecemeal from class inheritance and instanciation. Most all of it happe…
L111[19:35:24] <Po​key> Oh nice, thank you. I suppose if I wanted to be a bit more targeted in my question, what I am looking for is how to write to Flash Memory myself to essentially build a custom bootloader
L112[19:35:45] <Po​key> of course, one of the things I'd need for that is a device tree to build a kernel against
L113[19:56:33] <Na​dja> You don't need a device tree at all to build a bootloader? And you don't need a device tree at compile time for a kernel either?
L114[20:02:49] <Forec​aster> dammit, my media server is running out of space again...
L115[20:10:02] <Forec​aster> Someone find whoever invented file sizes and throw them in the tentacle pit
L116[20:11:47] <Po​key> >Nadja: You don't need a device tree at all to build a bootloader? And you don't…
L117[20:11:47] <Po​key> huh
L118[20:12:08] <Po​key> Yea my experience is limited and the scenario in which I have built the kernel required that for building
L119[20:12:13] <Po​key> Guess I have much to learn
L120[20:12:51] <Forec​aster> well there's your mistake
L121[20:13:03] <Forec​aster> you should have been born omniscient
L122[20:13:15] <Na​dja> >Pokey: Yea my experience is limited and the scenario in which I have built the …
L123[20:13:15] <Na​dja> Device trees are *specifically* so you *do not need all that information at compile time*
L124[20:13:22] <Na​dja> Like that's their entire purpose.
L125[20:13:37] <Po​key> >Pokey: Guess I have much to learn
L126[20:13:37] <Po​key> 👀
L127[20:13:54] <Forec​aster> well, their secondary purpose is to prevent the invasion of the mole people, but we don't talk about that
L128[20:14:13] <Po​key> I thought they were just a human readable format for defining the structure of physical hardware used to configure the kernel for compilation for a target
L129[20:14:26] <Na​dja> And also, device trees won't contain information about the flash or other harddrives to begin with. That's not their idea. They will — at best — contain information about the hard drive *controller* but even that's not a given since PCI exists.
L130[20:14:43] <Po​key> That's how i've used them anyway, so, I guess my limited scenario has very much simplified everything for me
L131[20:14:53] <Po​key> hidden a load of stuff behind an easy mask
L132[20:14:57] <Na​dja> >Pokey: I thought they were just a human readable format for defining the struct…
L133[20:14:57] <Na​dja> Short answer: No. Long answer: Nooooooooooooo
L134[20:15:49] <Amanda> Nah, if that was the case it'd be the same as /sys entries: C structs with somewhat-readable definition ordeer
L135[20:16:00] <Na​dja> I mean yeah.
L136[20:16:26] <Na​dja> But that take is … wrong on every account pretty much? Because device trees are not human readable either.
L137[20:16:53] <Na​dja> There's a text-based encoding for them but that's not the canonical format.
L138[20:17:35] <Po​key> >Nadja: And also, device trees won't contain information about the flash or othe…
L139[20:17:35] <Po​key> I suppose I should clarify that my experience with a file called a device tree has been a dts file which defines the memory mapping for flash
L140[20:17:48] <Na​dja> SPI flash I assume
L141[20:17:50] <Po​key> Yes
L142[20:17:56] <Na​dja> Yeah, well …
L143[20:18:04] <Na​dja> okay, long answer: it didn't
L144[20:18:17] <Na​dja> It provided the memory configuration of the SPI *controller*(
L145[20:18:41] <Po​key> That's true
L146[20:18:53] <Po​key> There is an spi section then a flash section beneath that
L147[20:18:55] <Na​dja> And SPI flash *happens* to be memory mapped basically everytime, so that *happens* to define the memory mapping for the flash
L148[20:19:23] <Na​dja> But that is not a given.
L149[20:19:51] <Po​key> Suppose it is based on the target
L150[20:19:56] <Na​dja> And most importantly, you *bootloader* didn't care about that fact either. Because chances are it never saw the device tree at all.
L151[20:20:25] <Po​key> I assumed the bootloader not so from the start but I did (clearly, incorrectly) assume it for the kernel
L152[20:20:28] <Na​dja> Now on embedded targets you often have several bootloaders chained after each other because hardware is a fuck.
L153[20:20:50] <Na​dja> But let's ignore that too because again, hardware is a fuck.
L154[20:21:10] <Na​dja> What you can use a devicetree for at *compile time* is to get a list of hardware, to select all appropiate modules to include.
L155[20:21:29] <Po​key> That makes sense
L156[20:21:34] <Po​key> drivers and such
L157[20:21:34] <Na​dja> But that's not required in any way shape or form. And the build system takes nothing but the list of modules from the device tree.
L158[20:21:47] <Na​dja> It most importantly doesn't take the addresses.
L159[20:21:52] <Po​key> Right
L160[20:21:57] <Na​dja> Other than *maybe* as defaults, but even that is dangerous.
L161[20:21:59] <Po​key> Well yea I suppose it has nothing it can do with that
L162[20:22:17] <Po​key> It makes sense when it is explained 😅
L163[20:22:27] <Na​dja> So
L164[20:22:32] <Na​dja> you don't need the device tree here at all.
L165[20:22:38] <Po​key> Righty
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L167[21:19:39] <Redston​eParkour> %tonk
L168[21:19:40] <MichiBot> Shoot! Redston​eParkour! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 5 hours, 39 minutes and 2 seconds (By 40 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L169[21:19:41] <MichiBot> RedstoneParkour's new record is 6 hours, 19 minutes and 3 seconds! RedstoneParkour also gained 0.00402 (0.00067 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 1.25403045 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L170[21:37:36] <! Little​Timmy52 !> >Sky: Cursed idea: Use Termux and run an emulator on there lol
L171[21:37:36] <! Little​Timmy52 !> Any suggestions on how? I've been trying all i could since 2 days ago.
L172[21:42:02] <S​ky> >! LittleTimmy52 !: Any suggestions on how? I've been trying doing just that all i could s…
L173[21:42:02] <S​ky> well termux is literally just a linux terminal, so anything you can do on a linux computer you can do with termux
L174[21:46:40] <! Little​Timmy52 !> >Sky: well termux is literally just a linux terminal, so anything you can do on a linux co…
L175[21:46:40] <! Little​Timmy52 !> Yes I'm aware, i am not Linux smart, I've tried getting 3 different oc emulators but, 1 was a jar with some error stopping it from running, the other 2 are from GitHub and i can't for the life of me get those working. As you kan probably tell I'm not all to smart.
L176[21:51:24] <! Little​Timmy52 !> I think I'ma just ask over on the termux server, someone there might be better at helping me in this little debocle of mine
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L178[22:41:28] <Forec​aster> %sip
L179[22:41:28] <MichiBot> You drink a shimmering rød potion (New!). Forecaster reboots for an update for 5 minutes.
L180[22:41:46] <Forec​aster> Update and shutdown, time to sleep
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L183[23:38:53] <CompanionCube> LittleTimmy52: what's the error when compiling my suggestion of ocvm?
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