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L1[00:01:38] <Ri​ley> Did you publish the results somewhere? Sorry if I’m missing something. I happen to be very ill right now.
L2[00:02:40] <AR2​000> Give each in game network card a IP in the VXLAN, now the OS handle routing, socket and ICMP needed.
L3[00:02:41] <AR2​000> Am I missing something?
L4[00:02:41] <Na​dja> Actually I'm stupid. VLAN transports ethernet inside of it so no you get to actually send ethernet around.
L5[00:03:39] <Na​dja> >Riley: Did you publish the results somewhere? Sorry if I’m missing something. I…
L6[00:03:39] <Na​dja> I think https://github.com/Paranoidlabs/oc2/tree/feature/real-world-network is the correct branch, but I don't think we have binaries anywhere. Well other than the one running on my server :P
L7[00:04:11] <Na​dja> >AR2000: Give each in game network card a IP in the VXLAN, now the OS handle rout…
L8[00:04:11] <Na​dja> Talk about moving the goal posts.
L9[00:05:02] <Ri​ley> >Nadja: I think https://github.com/Paranoidlabs/oc2/tree/feature/real-world-netw���
L10[00:05:03] <Ri​ley> Thanks. Do you mind if I merge the changes into my own fork for use on my own server?
L11[00:05:16] <Na​dja> @Riley If our server gets stable network again you could visit us on said server and have a look yourself too. Saves you from the arcane setup
L12[00:05:21] <AR2​000> >Nadja: Talk about moving the goal posts.
L13[00:05:22] <AR2​000> ???
L14[00:05:22] <AR2​000> Isn't it what VXLAN does?
L15[00:05:25] <Na​dja> >Riley: Thanks. Do you mind if I merge the changes into my own fork for use on m…
L16[00:05:25] <Na​dja> Absolutely not, go ahead :)
L17[00:06:02] <Na​dja> >AR2000: ???
L18[00:06:03] <Na​dja> Isn't it what VXLAN does?
L19[00:06:03] <Na​dja> Yep, it is. But hey guess what, I know that, I *wrote* that. And I've been saying that since the very start :)
L20[00:08:31] <Amanda> ... I feel like I've been falling victim to Cunningham's law, where the easiest way to get an answer is to confidently state the wrong thing.
L21[00:08:47] <Na​dja> Yep you have
L22[00:08:51] <Amanda> So I shall wander off and bat at the dwarf planets
L23[00:08:53] <Na​dja> I mean, so did I
L24[00:09:56] <Amanda> %choose halucinate or more metrids
L25[00:09:56] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I saw that "halucinate" is the best choice in a vision
L26[00:10:12] <Amanda> You and your oddly relevent "visions" MichiBot.
L27[00:12:48] <AR2​000> Correct me if I'm wrong.
L28[00:12:48] <AR2​000> You have a VXLAN that encapsulated layer 2 Ethernet in the host network using layer 3 UDP, meaning you have a full layer 2 virtual LAN, but even like that, you can't write raw network packets ???
L29[00:13:42] <Na​dja> The JVM process can't, no.
L30[00:14:02] <Na​dja> That is, the one that the OC2 mod is running in.
L31[00:15:36] <AR2​000> Can I know what you are using to make the VXLAN?
L32[00:17:16] <Na​dja> Magic
L33[00:18:14] <Amanda> Oh. It's actually called Cunningham 's law, I wasn't sure, but I figured it'd kick in effect if I was wrong anyway, so might as well go for it
L34[00:18:54] <Amanda> Surprised my sieve of a brain could remember that
L35[00:19:15] <Corded> * <Mich​iyo🎃> head desks
L36[00:19:37] * Amanda lays on @Michiyo's head
L37[00:20:20] <Mich​iyo🎃> I've got... 2,900 images that I'm trying to stitch together, and it's JUST SLIGHTLY off...
L38[00:20:26] <Mich​iyo🎃> and I can't figure out why
L39[00:20:32] <Mich​iyo🎃> well "slightly"
L40[00:20:42] <Mich​iyo🎃> https://tinyurl.com/28mmdaz9
L41[00:20:56] <Mich​iyo🎃> I mean it's pretty badly off, but it's closer than it was 20 minutes ago
L42[00:21:12] <Mich​iyo🎃> Also, whew boy I'm glad I have 64GB of RAM
L43[00:21:22] <Mich​iyo🎃> ImageMagick is sucking down 32+ GB of it
L44[00:21:37] <AR2​000> Looks like they are rotated 180°
L45[00:21:58] <AR2​000> Good x,y in the grid but bad rotation
L46[00:22:23] <AR2​000> Maybe 90° not 180°
L47[00:22:32] <Mich​iyo🎃> https://tinyurl.com/258rhqa9
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L49[00:22:37] <Mich​iyo🎃> this is what it should look like
L50[00:22:43] <Mich​iyo🎃> give or take
L51[00:23:54] <AR2​000> Swapped x and y ???
L52[00:24:39] <AR2​000> Yeah looks more like swapped xy than rotation looking at the original
L53[00:25:04] <Mich​iyo🎃> if I run it 46x63 it does this
L54[00:25:13] <Mich​iyo🎃> https://tinyurl.com/28msyau3
L55[00:25:30] <AR2​000> Not the img size, but the chunks position
L56[00:25:52] <Mich​iyo🎃> right, just.. have no idea how to tell imagemagick which is which..
L57[00:26:40] <Mich​iyo🎃> I'm feeding it a filelist sorted like tex_0_0, tex_0_1, tex_28_0, tex_28_1 etc.
L58[00:26:55] <Mich​iyo🎃> runs 0-45, 0-62
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L61[00:29:00] <AR2​000> cmdline ?
L62[00:29:23] <Mich​iyo🎃> `montage @filelist.txt -mode concatenate -tile 63x46 -geometry +0+0 res.png` filelist is https://paste.pc-logix.com/kayixafupi.hs
L63[00:29:51] <Mich​iyo🎃> https://legacy.imagemagick.org/Usage/montage/#tile
L64[00:30:01] <AR2​000> `man montage`
L65[00:30:25] <Mich​iyo🎃> I'm on windows, lemme switch over to WSL
L66[00:30:32] <Mich​iyo🎃> I can't run it there though because of the insane ram usage.. lol
L67[00:30:35] <AR2​000> you can google it
L68[00:30:42] <AR2​000> all man page are on google
L69[00:30:49] <Mich​iyo🎃> I have IM in wsl, just had to go start it back up :P
L70[00:38:17] <AR2​000> montage @filelist.txt -mode concatenate -tile 46x1 -geometry +0+0 res.png
L71[00:40:25] <AR2​000> >Michiyo🎃: I have IM in wsl, just had to go start it back up :P
L72[00:40:25] <AR2​000> try that : `montage @filelist.txt -mode concatenate -tile 1x63 -geometry +0+0 res.png`
L73[00:40:52] <AR2​000> might give a strip, but worth the try
L74[00:56:23] <Mich​iyo🎃> I had to leave to pick up my wife will try when I get home. I will also have to trim down the file list to a strip of land otherwise it'll just be blue ocean lol
L75[00:57:35] <AR2​000> it leave me time to make some test
L76[01:08:58] <Amanda> How to teach your catgirl to not nya her words: spray bottle
L77[01:13:26] <Na​dja> nya bottle
L78[01:13:34] <Amanda> %choose ☢️ or 🕹️
L79[01:13:34] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Out of these two choices? I'd say "🕹️".
L80[01:13:47] <Amanda> Hrm
L81[01:14:06] <Amanda> %choose 🕹️ or 🍄
L82[01:14:06] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I've learned anything in life it's that you always pick "🍄"
L83[01:14:32] <Amanda> Sounds good, time to continue reading about onis
L84[01:49:44] <AR2​000> @Michiyo🎃 Made you a new filelist but with row and columns reversed. Try that https://tinyurl.com/2685m3rv
L85[02:33:29] * Amanda curls up around elfi, meows sleepily about her plans for world scritchiefication, does a heccen zzzclaw
L86[02:33:32] <Amanda> Night girls
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L88[02:36:51] <Mich​iyo🎃> >AR2000: <@124625753240240132> Made you a new filelist but with row and columns rever…
L89[02:36:51] <Mich​iyo🎃> ok, running now
L90[02:38:51] <AR2​000> I generated 2898 imgs to test my theories. Hope it works for you
L91[02:38:57] <Mich​iyo🎃> https://tinyurl.com/26mkozko
L92[02:39:16] <AR2​000> Looks better, wrong tile size
L93[02:39:39] <AR2​000> 46x63, not 63x46
L94[02:39:52] <Mich​iyo🎃> ah, right
L95[02:42:04] <Mich​iyo🎃> ok, so now to figure out what I did wrong, cause it came out perfect
L96[02:42:23] <Mich​iyo🎃> Thank you
L97[02:42:24] <AR2​000> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/awamiwoqoy
L98[02:42:48] <AR2​000> >Michiyo🎃: Thank you
L99[02:42:49] <AR2​000> Happy to be able to help at least sometimes
L100[02:43:07] <AR2​000> Can we see the result ?
L101[02:43:13] <Mich​iyo🎃> ahh, I see
L102[02:43:15] <Mich​iyo🎃> yeah one sec sorry
L103[02:43:41] <Mich​iyo🎃> https://tinyurl.com/24xhaeeb
L104[02:44:06] <Mich​iyo🎃> \ https://tinyurl.com/23okp9c9
L105[02:44:21] <AR2​000> Nice.
L106[02:44:21] <AR2​000> Not much water to remove
L107[02:44:24] <Mich​iyo🎃> https://tinyurl.com/22cmwg3f
L108[02:44:31] <Mich​iyo🎃> lots of water to remove, I had zoomed a bit :P
L109[02:45:16] <AR2​000> It's just cropping. Won't be hard
L110[02:45:18] <Mich​iyo🎃> I added the water because the original map was very oddly shaped. I could have not done the top like.... 30% of the image but I was trying to be lazy lol
L111[02:49:01] <Mich​iyo🎃> thank you again, I had been beating my head against that for like 3 hours
L112[04:52:04] <Va​ur> %tonk
L113[04:52:05] <MichiBot> Yow! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 5 hours, 29 minutes and 24 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L114[04:52:06] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 5 hours, 29 minutes and 24 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00549 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.17419848 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L116[13:54:23] *** Server sets mode: +ntz
L117[13:54:29] <MichiBot> na​dja: You should probably read this: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L118[13:54:36] *** nadja is now known as dequbed
L119[13:54:38] <dequbed> %tonk
L120[13:54:40] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket! deq​ubed! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 5 hours, 29 minutes and 24 seconds (By 3 hours, 33 minutes and 10 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L121[13:54:41] <MichiBot> dequbed's new record is 9 hours, 2 minutes and 35 seconds! dequbed also gained 0.0213 (0.00355 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #12 => #9. (Overtook The Patmann) Need 0.01242 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L122[13:54:44] *** dequbed is now known as nadja
L123[13:54:50] <nadja> Michibot is slow :D
L124[13:58:43] <Mich​iyo🎃> MichiBot is always slow right after joining
L125[13:59:08] <nadja> I'm not surprised ^^
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L130[14:18:31] <floppa> dead chat lol
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L132[14:20:52] <Amanda> well poop
L133[14:21:18] <Amanda> I went through all that trouble to code stack trace printing, and zig doesn't even encode stack frames in freestanding wasi
L134[14:21:21] <Amanda> wasm*
L135[14:28:01] <Fe​ris> tf? https://tinyurl.com/23bs8zek
L136[14:28:57] <Amanda> What OC version, what OS/arch
L137[14:29:09] <Amanda> (OS/Arch of the real computer running MC )
L138[14:29:16] <Fe​ris> my server is on arm
L139[14:29:23] <Fe​ris> but i downloaded arm patched version
L140[14:29:29] <Fe​ris> for server
L141[14:29:30] <Fe​ris> and still
L142[14:29:46] <Amanda> Not sure then. in OC 1.8.0 we'll provide native binaries for mac/linux arm64
L143[14:29:52] <Izaya> wonder if the pinephone is powerful enough to run an OC server
L144[14:29:58] <Fe​ris> https://tinyurl.com/29jedcnc
L145[14:30:09] <Izaya> I don't think the tf300t would have enough RAM
L146[14:30:49] <Ocawes​ome101> pinephone probably could
L147[14:31:15] <Izaya> 3GB is quite a lot of RAM, after all
L148[14:32:39] <Ri​ley> >Izaya: wonder if the pinephone is powerful enough to run an OC server
L149[14:32:39] <Ri​ley> No, that thing can’t run anything.
L150[14:33:07] <Izaya> iunno it can run dino and firefox and mosh and minetest
L151[14:33:13] <Izaya> those are definitely things
L152[14:33:46] <Ri​ley> Was a hyperbole.
L153[14:33:50] <Izaya> 4 aarch64 cores and 3GB of RAM is better than most laptops pre-2012
L154[14:34:37] <Ocawes​ome101> eh with those particular aarch64 cores i'd put it at more like pre-2010
L155[14:34:42] <Ocawes​ome101> maybe 2011
L156[14:35:00] <nadja> So Australian 2012 :P
L157[14:35:01] * Izaya shrugs
L158[14:35:10] <Ocawes​ome101> lol
L159[14:35:13] <Izaya> in 2012 I was using an atom n270
L160[14:35:26] <Ocawes​ome101> my 2010 MBP wasn't _fast_ but it was definitely faster than even the pinebook pro
L161[14:35:35] <Izaya> and I can safely say that the pinephone is faster than an atom n270 netbook
L162[14:35:40] <Ocawes​ome101> (with a core i7 M 620 of all things)
L163[14:35:40] <Izaya> (source: I have six under my desk)
L164[14:35:50] <Ocawes​ome101> ...why do you have 6?
L165[14:35:57] <nadja> 'cause Izaya :P
L166[14:36:01] <Izaya> ^
L167[14:36:05] <Ocawes​ome101> fair enough
L168[14:36:20] <Izaya> I've had various plans for them, but mostly I use them as semi-disposable ssh terminals
L169[14:36:32] <nadja> Izaya is like Smaug but instead of Gold he collects and sits on a literal pile of old disused and very much obsolete hardware :P
L170[14:36:37] <Ocawes​ome101> now, the pinephone _is_ definitely faster than my 2005 Latitude :P
L171[14:36:44] <Ocawes​ome101> hahahahaha nice
L172[14:36:59] <Ocawes​ome101> i have a few old computers but not _that_ many
L173[14:37:13] <Izaya> I've been getting rid of the boring ones
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L175[14:37:29] <Izaya> keeping the stronkest and/or weirdest of each generation
L176[14:37:44] <nadja> Are you getting rid of micro-USB yet?
L177[14:38:17] <Izaya> would you believe the only thing I have that I regularly use with micro-USB is the steam controller?
L178[14:38:27] <Izaya> everything else has weird proprietary connectors
L179[14:38:36] <nadja> Even the Pine?
L180[14:38:51] <Izaya> no, it just might as well have a weird proprietary connector
L181[14:39:00] <nadja> That has USB-C? Huh :D
L182[14:39:08] <nadja> I'm almost surprised you bought one :P
L183[14:39:34] <Izaya> the TF300T has some weird flat connector
L184[14:39:39] <Izaya> very wide
L185[14:39:57] <nadja> The old iPod connector was fun
L186[14:40:12] <nadja> And absurdly way too powerful for what it did in the end
L187[14:40:12] <Izaya> beyond that I don't really use anything else USB
L188[14:40:47] <Izaya> beyond y'know, input devices
L189[14:41:09] <nadja> Shame really, USB is cool ^^
L190[14:41:28] <Izaya> I don't have a lot of use for it at the moment \o/
L191[14:41:41] <Izaya> if I want to transfer files I have a network for that
L192[14:42:13] <nadja> I mean USB can be quite a bit faster than common household networks but I doubt your harddrives are that fast :P
L193[14:42:52] <Izaya> at gigabit speeds, any transfer that takes significant time would run out of space
L194[14:43:32] <Izaya> hell, I got around needing to buy a sound card by just using pulseaudio networking over the LAN to let my laptop handle talking to the speakers for my desktop
L195[14:43:43] <nadja> *sigh*
L196[14:44:40] <Izaya> man you know what USB device I could use?
L197[14:44:59] <Izaya> an SD card reader. I've misplaced mine somewhere, so now I have to use my laptop to copy ROMs to my DS
L198[14:46:06] <Ocawes​ome101> your motherboard doesn't have integrated sound?
L199[14:46:06] <Izaya> the X220 is weird, bluetooth is done over internal bespoke USB connectors, but the SD card reader is a PCI-e device
L200[14:46:16] <Izaya> it does, but it only has one output
L201[14:47:19] <Izaya> whatever psychopath designed this motherboard was like "yeah we'll give them three line in ports, but exactly one output."
L202[14:47:28] <Ocawes​ome101> ...huh
L203[14:47:40] <Ocawes​ome101> my desktop has input, output, and ??? mystery
L204[14:47:47] <Izaya> I guess there's the front panel but the front panel on this case is broken so
L205[14:47:47] <nadja> I mean SD maps pretty well to PCIe, and bluetooth maps pretty well to USB. It makes sense ^^
L206[14:47:51] <Ocawes​ome101> red, green, and blue
L207[14:48:05] <Ocawes​ome101> the front panel out is decent but front panel in is really noisy
L208[14:48:11] <nadja> microphone input and line level input
L209[14:48:23] <nadja> I think that's specified in some ancient PC documents
L210[14:48:32] <Ocawes​ome101> huh
L211[14:48:40] <Izaya> this motherboard is all sorts of fucky though
L212[14:48:51] <Izaya> it's one of like, two skylake-compatible boards that supports DDR3
L213[14:48:51] <Ocawes​ome101> what's line level input used for, sending audio straight from another computer's line out?
L214[14:49:09] <nadja> Sending audio at line level ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L215[14:50:00] <nadja> microphone level is super weak because microphones are often passive, and there's usually a pre-amp with quite some amplification level directly behind that input. Line level is if you have active amplification outside of the computer already.
L216[14:50:25] <Izaya> also, it's weird to me that nobody seems to make a "front panel audio to PCI slot cover" adaptor
L217[14:50:49] <Izaya> I have one for the front panel USB, breaking out the audio the same way seems obvious to me, but I guess not ?.?
L218[14:50:53] <Ocawes​ome101> ah, neat
L219[14:51:28] <Ocawes​ome101> the rear mic input is still noisy but with audacity noise cancellation it's manageable
L220[14:52:36] <nadja> Also line level can be a "low" (for audio, so like 500Ω) level input impedance. Microphones can't possible provide any sort of actual power transfer so the mic input has to be absurdly high impedance (think TΩ)
L221[14:53:14] <Ocawes​ome101> ah
L222[14:54:12] <nadja> But since you usually don't bother and put opamps behind all inputs because a) no DC coupling b) they're cheap as fuck c) you get TΩ input impedance for free the distinction is nowadays pretty muddied.
L223[14:54:42] <nadja> But hey, if somebody talks about "impedance matching" inputs and outputs, that's what they're talking about.
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L225[14:58:09] <nadja> Sorry wait let me clarify: MOS-based opamps. You can build a line level input using bipos, but you can't a microphone level one without phantom power. But MOS is cheaper anyway.
L226[15:01:50] <Amanda> %choose optional or union
L227[15:01:53] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I have a pamphlet that says never to engage in "union", so you should definitely do it!
L228[15:02:28] <Izaya> unusually coherent
L229[15:22:50] <Mich​iyo🎃> imagemagick has been running on this image for over 8 hours now, and it's still not done lol
L230[15:22:59] <Mich​iyo🎃> I... think it's stuck but can't tell
L231[15:29:14] <Forec​aster> It's probably doing its best!
L232[15:30:06] <Forec​aster> Also, I made a userscript that flips Corded messages in "The Lounge" webchat system
L233[15:30:10] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/2d3o9wba
L234[15:33:24] <Mich​iyo🎃> nice
L235[15:38:05] <Forec​aster> Before https://tinyurl.com/296dwrsj
L236[16:00:19] <Amanda> Hawk777: lots of more work on CBOR en/decoding, including map support now! Also I mad errors work nicer, including a panic handler so no more random "unreachable" instructions when I do a dumb
L237[16:00:51] <Amanda> Also:
L238[16:01:05] <Hawk777> Awesome! Maps unlock a lot of APIs.
L239[16:01:06] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/yEwXqNDpFBwNLxoJcduUEbrE/2022-10-31_12.00.48.png
L240[16:01:16] <Hawk777> WAT
L241[16:01:33] <Hawk777> That’s a custom error object returned from main?
L242[16:01:46] <Amanda> ( Zig currently doesn't have stack trace support in free-standing stack trace support)
L243[16:02:11] <Ocawes​ome101> %addquote
L244[16:02:12] <Amanda> That's main being able to return an error union, and have it automatically turned into a computer.error
L245[16:02:21] <Amanda> er, in free-standing wasm
L246[16:02:28] <Ocawes​ome101> uh, %quote
L247[16:02:29] <MichiBot> Quote #187: <xk​cd> Fixing a handful of irregular bugs by burying them beneath a smooth, uniform layer of bugs.
L248[16:02:46] <Ocawes​ome101> %quote add Amanda ( Zig currently doesn't have stack trace support in free-standing stack trace support)
L249[16:02:47] <MichiBot> Ocawes​ome101: Quote added at id: 219
L250[16:02:55] <Amanda> https://git.camnet.site/amandac/ocwasm-zig/src/branch/main/src/lib/oc-wasm/start.zig#L82-L108
L251[16:02:56] <Hawk777> Right, makes sense.
L252[16:02:59] <Ocawes​ome101> %quote 219
L253[16:03:00] <MichiBot> Ocawes​ome101: No quotes found for name '2​19'
L254[16:03:13] <Ocawes​ome101> _sighs_ oh well, it seems to have worked
L255[16:03:22] <Forec​aster> %quote #219
L256[16:03:22] <MichiBot> Quote #219: <Ama​nda> ( Zig currently doesn't have stack trace support in free-standing stack trace support)
L257[16:03:22] <Amanda> %quote show 219
L258[16:03:23] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: No quotes found for name 'show​ 219'
L259[16:03:27] <Amanda> ah
L260[16:03:39] <Forec​aster> %quote Lizzy
L261[16:03:39] <MichiBot> Quote #162: <Li​zzy> hence stupid with more processing power
L262[16:03:48] <Amanda> I think that's my first quote.
L263[16:03:52] <Amanda> %quote Amanda
L264[16:03:52] <MichiBot> Quote #200: <Ama​nda> ~1 year until I cna kill my neighbor
L265[16:03:57] <Amanda> ah, nope
L266[16:04:08] <Amanda> ... I don't remember the context to that one though
L267[16:04:15] <Amanda> %quote AmandaC
L268[16:04:15] <MichiBot> Quote #208: <Ama​ndaC> ker-woosh
L269[16:04:33] <S​ky> %quote Ocawesome101
L270[16:04:34] <MichiBot> S​ky: No quotes found for name 'Ocawes​ome101'
L271[16:04:39] <S​ky> Hah
L272[16:04:45] <S​ky> %sip
L273[16:04:46] <Ocawes​ome101> :)
L274[16:04:47] <MichiBot> You drink a runny yellow potion (New!). Sky gains knowledge about a random useless subject.
L275[16:05:36] <S​ky> Did you know that an obsidian knife is not actually that practical of a weapon?
L276[16:05:36] <S​ky> The blade is sharp, sure, but is very fragile and will crack and splinter upon use.
L277[16:06:45] <Amanda> Also types can now define an "encodeCBOR" method to encode arbitary stuff when being encoded.
L278[16:07:07] <Hawk777> Which means you can… uh… handle handles! By having that write a tag in front.
L279[16:32:30] <Forec​aster> but how do you handle your handle handlers
L280[16:32:50] <Hawk777> Carefully.
L281[16:35:46] <Na​dja> @Sky not every blade needs to be a weapon. Glass scalpels are still in common use because some glasses (like obsidian) are extremely good at holding an sharp edge
L282[16:37:27] <Forec​aster> Just don't use your obsidian knife as a hammer
L283[17:35:47] <Amanda> ~~And if you don't beleieve in geneova, you can use obsidian knives to commit totally-normal-war-behaviour~~
L284[17:36:10] <Amanda> At least, I assume using something that leaves chunks of itself inside the opponent constitutes a war crime
L285[17:36:59] <Amanda> I remember reading about how some police forces in the US were using bullets that do that, and how it's a war crime.
L286[17:39:02] <Ri​ley> Yeah, police in the US uses dumdum bullets as they don't go through people. A bit better when shooting into a crowd (never a good idea btw but it's US police) but whoever is shot is likely going to die.
L287[17:40:13] <Ri​ley> I'd imagine whatever treaty was signed only applies to warfare unless the US just ignores it.
L288[17:40:34] <Amanda> The US is notorious for starting international accords then not signing them
L289[17:40:55] <Amanda> "Rules for theee but not for me" might as well be in the constitutuon
L290[17:48:36] <Ri​ley> fwiw the bullets are not banned by the Geneva Conventions but by the Hague Convention, which only applies to international warfare which makes them legal where not prohibited by laws.
L291[18:16:59] <Na​dja> I mean that distinction doesn't matter. Both the Geneva Conventions and the Hague one only apply in war between warring nations.
L292[18:17:33] <Amanda> Feels weird that things that would be banned in war is being used against civilians though
L293[18:18:47] <Na​dja> Well but of course. Civilians can't retaliate by being equally as brutal so you can be as brutal as you want in putting them down :)
L294[18:19:17] <Ri​ley> Civilians deserve it.
L295[18:19:34] <Na​dja> That's a take.
L296[18:22:51] <Forec​aster> I get the impression Riley forgets to use /s a lot
L297[18:25:54] <Va​ur> %sip
L298[18:25:55] <MichiBot> You drink a goopy octiron potion (New!). Vaur's skin turn the color of salmon but with a rock glow until someone stabs them.
L299[18:26:14] <Amanda> %choose halucinate or games
L300[18:26:14] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I tried reading my tea leaves this morning. There was something about death and doom. Anyway, go with "halucinate"
L301[18:26:20] <Amanda> Sounds good.
L302[18:26:24] <Amanda> %splash @Inari with mutable potion
L303[18:26:25] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable jumbonium potion (New!) that splashes onto @Inari. @Inari turns into a dragon girl for 8 moons.
L304[18:26:28] <Amanda> !
L305[18:26:30] * Amanda flees again
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L308[18:53:27] <Forec​aster> Amanda I thought I told you to stop finding dragon potions D:
L309[18:54:04] <Ri​ley> %sip
L310[18:54:04] <MichiBot> You drink an oxidised strawberry potion (New!). A shark flies past that vaguely resembles someone Riley knows.
L311[18:54:41] <Va​ur> %sip
L312[18:54:42] <MichiBot> You drink a cloudy grass potion (New!). After drinking the potion Vaur realizes the bottle has their face on it.
L313[18:58:48] <Fe​ris> how i can connect open modular turrets to opencomputers?
L314[18:59:01] <Fe​ris> https://tinyurl.com/29bl8bcu
L315[18:59:08] <Fe​ris> https://tinyurl.com/22w52kds
L316[18:59:56] <Va​ur> with an adapter
L317[19:00:15] <Fe​ris> oh thank you
L318[19:06:18] <Amanda> The hell is using like 85G on my steamdeck's SSD
L319[19:06:44] <Amanda> It's not my roms and game saves syncthing folders, those total like 30
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L321[19:27:38] <stephan48> should i nopaste you my script to install "ncdu"?
L322[19:28:09] <stephan48> easily doable via pacman, through requires disabling/enabling readonly on the root fs
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L324[19:36:03] <Amanda> I'm trying to avoid enabling writable rootfs
L325[19:40:22] <Amanda> Well, tjat's 50G accounted for
L326[19:40:34] <Amanda> Roms, third-party launcher + games, game saves syncthing
L327[19:41:47] <stephan48> there was also one user on the SteamDeck reddit who described using "nix" on the deck instead of writeable rootfs
L328[19:42:06] <stephan48> since you dabble in nix and have CI, maybe this might be another easy course to take
L329[19:43:04] <Amanda> I ended up installing "Disk Usage Analyzer" from the discover thing
L330[19:43:20] <stephan48> is it decent?
L331[19:43:20] <Amanda> Not sure where the other 35G are coming from, but that answered most of it
L332[19:43:30] <Amanda> It's okay. It's GNOME software, but decently fast
L333[19:44:17] <Amanda> Another 12 is shader/compatdata
L334[19:45:15] <Amanda> 2 is my steam screenshots
L335[19:46:05] <Amanda> I can see various other bits and bobs covering the remaining 11, so I guesss that that's mystery solved
L336[20:01:41] <Forec​aster> You have 2 GB worthy of screenshots?
L337[20:01:49] <Forec​aster> worth of
L338[20:13:37] <S​ky> I have 2gb of files on my media server behind my image host
L339[20:17:48] <Amanda> Forecaster that's over several years, not all from the steamdeck. I just synced my old screenshots folder with my steamdeck instead of making a new one
L340[20:18:04] <Forec​aster> ah
L341[20:18:53] <Amanda> part of me wants to make a program/script to move all the screenshots from there into another set of folders, sorted by steam appid name, but I've not had the spoons yet
L342[20:22:18] <Ri​ley> %give spoons
L343[20:22:19] * MichiBot gives spoons CSTO from her inventory
L344[20:58:01] <S​ky> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/macexoqiha
L345[20:58:06] <S​ky> This is from august 2021 to present
L346[20:59:21] <Amanda> Hrm.
L347[20:59:34] <Amanda> GOG is taking forever to send me the code
L348[21:08:20] <Forec​aster> What code
L349[21:10:33] <Amanda> security code, since I'm signing in for the first time in a long time
L350[21:12:12] <Amanda> I hope there's a way to make it use proper TOTP instead of emailing a code once I'm in
L351[21:13:06] <Forec​aster> Ah
L352[21:25:43] <stephan48> nope
L353[21:25:45] <stephan48> not yet
L354[21:31:13] <Amanda> Guess I'll settle for switching my email away from one which is heavily grey-listed
L355[21:32:04] <Amanda> or does GOG just take forever to send codes?
L356[21:35:13] <Ri​ley> I’ll risk sounding dumb, but have you checked spam?
L357[21:35:20] <Amanda> yup
L358[21:35:48] <Amanda> Gotten into that habit since Gmail doesn't like me using a catch-all on a domain they don't control to forward to my gmail
L359[21:36:12] <Forec​aster> Did you check the space between dimensions
L360[21:36:35] <Amanda> Yeah, I found one of @Inari's shoes there, made sure to move it back into the latest blackhole
L361[21:36:46] <Amanda> s/latest/nearest/
L362[21:36:46] <MichiBot> <Amanda> Yeah, I found one of @Inari's shoes there, made sure to move it back into the nearest blackhole
L363[21:37:42] <Amanda> Hrm.
L364[21:37:54] <Amanda> Seems I last received an email from GOG last december
L365[21:38:01] <Amanda> might have to poke co-admin to see if there's anything in the logs
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L563[21:59:20] <Ri​ley> Yikes
L564[22:13:28] <Amanda> %choose comfort or utility or laptopnaptim
L565[22:13:29] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I'm 40% "utility"!
L566[22:34:08] <Kos​mos> I've been working on an OC port for 1.16.5 for the past few months, how would I go about making a pull request for that?
L567[22:36:01] * Amanda flops down around Elfi, reads stories to her
L568[22:40:41] <Na​dja> @Kosmos go on the Githubs, make a PR
L569[22:41:08] <Kos​mos> I would, but I don't think I can make a PR for a branch which doesn't exist (i.e. one for 1.16)
L570[22:41:51] <Na​dja> Make one against the 1.12 master
L571[22:41:52] <Ri​ley> Yeah, that’s a downside of the versioned branches.
L572[22:44:01] <Kos​mos> I can try, but it will definitely be unmergeable (because of updates happening in the meantime). I was just hoping there's a better way.
L573[22:44:27] <Ri​ley> You could pin Sangar or open a discussion on the GitHub.
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L575[22:54:49] <Na​dja> >Kosmos: I can try, but it will definitely be unmergeable (because of updates hap…
L576[22:54:50] <Na​dja> Of course it will. But it gives a reasonable framework to review your code. But sure, poke asie, Papayonel or Snagar, in that order.
L577[22:57:22] <Fe​ris> can i somehow print 3d model from blockbench in 3d printer?
L578[23:00:44] <Ri​ley> Probably. You would have to translate the JSON format though.
L579[23:07:42] <Ri​ley> The printer API looks like it should play well with Minecraft’s model format.
L580[23:53:20] <Amanda> %choose re-computer for more stories?
L581[23:53:20] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Are you sure? Well alright.
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