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grand parents house
L5[02:44:51]
<6_4>
>Pokeman2003: Alright, well, assert works. NOW what? After some
slight streamlining …
L6[02:44:51]
<6_4> are
you still having this issue? I tried `cd.lua` directly from the
link you posted and it does not throw a compiler error
L7[02:49:39]
<6_4> but
usually, this error means 'you need an extra `end`': the `cd.lua`
pastebin you posted does not need an extra `end` (and compiles just
fine) so I'm not sure where this error is coming from
L8[02:50:12]
<6_4> but
to track down errors like this more easily in the future, it is a
good idea to indent your code, which I did for you:
https://pastebin.com/xLDp17tW (i forgot about lines
2 and 16 so just imagine they're indented)
L9[02:51:13]
<6_4> that
way you can track down which `if`/`while`/`for` statements go to
which `end`s more easily
L10[02:53:25]
<Pokeman2003> The reason it wasn't
indented until this point is because I originally was making this
IN minecraft before I learned of Ocelot making my testing process a
buttload easier
L11[02:53:47]
<Pokeman2003> As for Notepad++, the
interesting bit here is that Notepad++ already keeps track of
everything, which is EXACTLY why this is baffling to me.
L13[04:05:16] <Amanda> MAke sure the
emulator doesn't simulate the buffer caching as well?
L14[04:12:06]
<Pokeman2003> It's based on CurseForge's
headless Minecraft if I'm not mistaken
L15[04:12:13]
<Pokeman2003> Let me boot this in
Minecraft to test that
L17[04:32:38] <Amanda> No idea then
L18[04:32:48] <Amanda> Going to head to
sleep though, so night nerds
L19[04:34:31]
<Pokeman2003> Night.
L20[04:36:20] <Amanda> %remindme 6h check
if 34tauri's updated
L21[04:36:21] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"check if 34tauri's updated" in 6h at 07/15/2022 10:36:20
AM
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L25[05:22:34]
<Pokeman2003> So fucking pissed.
L26[05:24:09]
<Pokeman2003> These are some of the worst
error codes I've ever had to touch, because they're informing me of
issues that don't even *EXIST*!
L27[05:25:21]
<Pokeman2003> I'm convinced that this HAS
to be a bug with OpenComputer's own Lua interpreter, I've already
got confirmation that the code compiles fine externally once you
strip the OpenComputer calls
L28[05:25:36]
<Pokeman2003> But where would I even begin
with a bug report for something like this?
L29[05:31:42]
<RedstoneParkour> i *think* that your
reading function doesnt read the whole file
L30[05:32:22]
<RedstoneParkour> because a single read
call can only read up to 2048 bytes if i am correct
L31[05:33:06]
<Pokeman2003> would you look at that, the
file is only several bytes over that
L32[05:33:13]
<Pokeman2003> why is this a limit
L33[05:33:40]
<RedstoneParkour> to prevent someone from
allocating big amounts of memory at once i think
L34[05:33:52]
<Pokeman2003> ~~I should be able to
allocate my full 196k of RAM damn it~~
L35[05:33:56]
<RedstoneParkour> its a config setting
btw
L36[05:34:13]
<Pokeman2003> So how would I get around
this? There aren't many ways I CAN get around it.
L37[05:34:41]
<RedstoneParkour> loop the read function
until it returns nil / ""
L38[05:35:15]
<Pokeman2003> Does the read function have
an internal incrementer?
L39[05:35:53]
<Pokeman2003> Or do I have to keep track
of its file byte?
L40[05:36:30]
<Pokeman2003> dumb question moving
on
L41[05:36:33]
<Pokeman2003> Thank you for informing me
of this
L42[05:37:25]
<Pokeman2003> That is such an unusual
mechanic and it's not expressed in the manual
L43[05:41:39]
<Pokeman2003> I don
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L45[05:48:19]
<Pokeman2003> Okay nevermind, it IS a
problem
L47[05:48:28]
<Pokeman2003> It actually IMPROVED my
memory usage(free/total)
L48[05:49:48]
<Pokeman2003> How can I make contributions
to the wiki?
L49[05:54:25] <Hawk777> Are you having
problems with the Login/Register button’s Register option? It was a
while ago I made my account, but I was able to do so (and then,
having one, edit pages).
L50[05:56:03]
<Pokeman2003> I didn't notice it. I'll get
to it soon, that's pertinent information that I am shocked was
omitted from the wiki
L51[05:56:26]
<Pokeman2003> That explains SO many bugs I
don't think people will ever understand how much that explained.
That explained why my first and second attempt at an OS
failed
L52[05:59:51] <Izaya> yeah no I'm not sure
where I saw that but it's just sort of Something Known
L53[06:00:43]
<Pokeman2003> Undocumented things like
that are the bane of my existence man.
L54[06:14:42] <Hawk777> What is it you
discovered?
L55[06:15:23] <Hawk777> I wasn’t here when
you talked about it (if you happen not to mind, and it’s something
easy to summarize in a line or two; otherwise don’t worry about
it).
L56[06:16:13] <Izaya> data return limits
(on filesystems in this case I believe)
L57[06:17:59] <Hawk777> Oh, as in a read
call only returning a certain amount of data if you ask for too
much?
L58[06:19:09] <Izaya> yup
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L60[06:23:28] <Hawk777> TBH I’m not certain
whether there is any kind of automated process that syncs the wiki
with the strings in the @Callback annotations in the mod source
code (which in turn generate the in-game help text when you print a
function on the computer).
L61[06:28:56] <Hawk777> Anyway, it is
limited by the maxReadBuffer setting in the config file, and it
*might* be limited by underlying (real) OS behaviour, though I
suspect most OSes probably don’t do short reads of files (I’ve
heard tell that Linux never does, despite POSIX saying that it’s
allowed to, for example).
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L63[06:50:23]
<Pokeman2003> Yeah it's uh... It's
specifically a setting thing.
L64[06:50:30]
<Pokeman2003> The fact it's not documented
at all in the wiki shocks me.
L65[06:50:41]
<Pokeman2003> Relatively easy fix although
I regret moving my file loader function now :P
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L82[10:36:21] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
check if 34tauri's updated
L83[10:42:13]
<RedstoneParkour> >Pokeman2003: Small
update, no one cares, here's the entirety of my operating system in
function…
L84[10:42:13]
<RedstoneParkour> looks very cool
L85[11:08:18]
<Vaur>
%tonkout
L86[11:08:19] <MichiBot> Yow! Vaur! You
beat your own previous record of 11 hours, 28 minutes and 44
seconds (By 2 hours, 7 minutes and 54 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L87[11:08:20] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.013 tonk points! plus 0.024
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.80981625,
Position #1
L88[11:33:09]
<Forecaster> As usual I was waiting for
the right time but was distracted by coding
L89[11:44:03]
<Vaur>
Sounds like right time was 2 hours ago 😏
L90[11:53:03]
<Z0idberg>
@Pokeman2003 what's so special about 2003?
L91[11:54:16] <Izaya> you won't like the
answer to this question
L92[11:55:41] <lunar_sam> hm
L93[11:56:21]
<Forecaster> >Vaur: Sounds like right
time was 2 hours ago 😏
L94[11:56:21]
<Forecaster> Well yeah, when I last looked
at the clock it was like 5 minutes before time, then suddenly it's
2 hours later
L95[11:58:04] <lunar_sam> time to write
code, i guess
L96[11:58:11] <lunar_sam> oh yeah,
uncpio
L97[11:58:35] <lunar_sam> make it able to
read my cpio extension thing :)
L98[12:28:08]
<Z0idberg>
@lunar_sam function lunar_sam_trap() { for(;;); }
L99[12:28:22] <lunar_sam> why
L100[12:28:36]
<Z0idberg>
It works doesnt it?
L101[12:28:41]
<Z0idberg>
Quite effective I'd say
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<фанат группы
Sabaton> How can I interact with items using OpenComputers? For
example, putting things into a chest or editing book's
content
L105[16:00:20]
<Forecaster> those are not the same
thing
L106[16:00:44]
<Forecaster> the former can easily be
achieved with an inventory controller in an adapter, or a
transposer
L107[16:01:06]
<фанат группы
Sabaton> and second?
L108[16:01:23]
<Forecaster> you can only do that by
cheating to my knowledge
L109[16:01:36]
<RedstoneParkour> by using the debug
card
L110[16:01:42]
<RedstoneParkour> which counts as
cheating
L111[16:01:53]
<RedstoneParkour> as its
creative-only
L112[16:02:09]
<фанат группы
Sabaton> ok, thx
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L114[17:36:55]
<Pokeman2003> >Z0idberg:
<@204972669563699201> what's so special about 2003?
L115[17:36:55]
<Pokeman2003> It's just a random 2000s
year I pulled out of my ass so the xX_Xx moniker would be complete
:P
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L117[18:11:38]
<Kokice5>
how do i make a program that i can run by typing the name in
shell?
L118[18:12:27]
<Kokice5>
add it in BIN
L119[18:12:29]
<Kokice5>
ok
L120[18:13:40]
<RedstoneParkour> check the `PATH`
environment variable for all paths that OpenOS searches for `.lua`
files
L121[18:14:21]
<Forecaster> bin works
L122[18:14:47]
<Forecaster> %tonk
L123[18:14:48] <MichiBot> Yippee!
Forecaster! You beat Vaur's previous record of <0 (By 7 hours,
6 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L124[18:14:49] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 7 hours, 6 minutes and 29 seconds! Forecaster also gained
0.00711 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need
0.50648 more points to pass Vaur!
L125[18:32:39]
<Kristopher38> >Pokeman2003: Small
update, no one cares, here's the entirety of my operating system in
funct…
L126[18:32:39]
<Kristopher38> I'm not even closely
following but i'm becoming invested in its development
progress
L127[18:33:43]
<Pokeman2003> Don't get your hopes up, its
literally an OS designed around being incompetent, and also a
proving grounds for me.
L128[18:33:43]
<Pokeman2003> ~~And maybe to upstage
OpenOS by being able to fit in the old 64k of memory that it used
to be able to.~~
L129[18:34:03]
<Pokeman2003> I'll probably be making
something a lot better after this
L130[18:35:13]
<Pokeman2003> Assuming I find the
courage.
L131[18:38:06]
<Pokeman2003> A couple of interesting
things to note:calls.sys, which contains all of the OS functions,
*cannot* go over 2k of memory as a result of me not looping the
read call over it. If it does, we get that heinous error from
earlier.
L132[18:38:06]
<Pokeman2003> It also lacks arguments,
other than the titular trace back itself.
L133[18:40:11]
<Pokeman2003> Oh and you can just do
osfunc=nil and hard crash the OS that way.
L134[18:50:32]
<Vaur>
%sip
L135[18:50:33] <MichiBot> You drink a
dusty dirt potion (New!). Vaur's favourite pants suddenly
disintegrates.
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<Vaur>
%sip
L143[20:21:17] <MichiBot> You drink an
eroded tiberium potion (New!). Vaur's nails turn silver until they
have some bacon.
L144[20:22:41]
<Vaur>
silver is a cute color, I should totally buy that 😊
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<Forecaster> %sip
L148[20:34:34] <MichiBot> You drink a soft
coral potion (New!). Forecaster's hair turn pear until they find an
only slightly sat on cake.
L149[20:34:48] <Amanda> Why, when you can
simply never eat bacon again and keep them silver!
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<Vaur>
>Amanda: Why, when you can simply never eat bacon again and keep
them silver!
L153[20:44:48]
<Vaur>
(Pssst, they are not actually silver 😛 )
L154[20:52:47]
<DaComputerNerd> %sip
L155[20:52:48] <MichiBot> You drink a
shiny unobtanium potion (New!). When DaComputerNerd drinks the last
drop, a bucket of water materializes above their head and dumps its
contents over them. DaComputerNerd avoids the bucket and it's
content! (12 vs DC 8)
L156[21:05:08]
<Pokeman2003> Knowing what Tiberium is,
that's horrifying
L157[21:11:20]
<Forecaster> why's that
L158[21:15:19]
<Vaur> I'm
guessing its something toxic
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L161[21:15:51] <CompanionCube> unobtanium
is not tiberium
L162[21:16:04]
<Forecaster> Vaurs potion was
tiberium
L163[21:16:12] <CompanionCube> oh
right
L164[21:16:21] <CompanionCube> Vaur: look
up tiberium in command and conquer.
L165[21:17:00]
<Forecaster> Oh, I misread the
message
L166[21:17:14]
<Forecaster> I read it as knowing what
tiberium is was what was horrifying
L167[21:17:45]
<Forecaster> reverse "was
what"....
L168[21:19:08] <Amanda> It's just the
C&C macguffin resource, isn't it? Nothing lore-noted?
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L171[21:23:47]
<Forecaster> It's incredibly toxic and
causes mutations in organics
L172[21:24:23] <CompanionCube> iirc that's
a big part of the plot in at least one game?
L173[21:25:18]
<Forecaster> Also normal tiberium is
green, but there's also blue tiberium which is even worse, but more
rare
L174[21:35:40]
<Pokeman2003> There's also mentions of red
and yellow tiberium, which although go unused in the actual game,
are horrifying. All 4 are an alien material which spew out
catastrophicalyl mutagenic levels of radiation and suck up all the
minerals in the earth beneath it. It's believed to be some sort of
terraforming tool as well.
L175[21:35:40]
<Pokeman2003> It's the a big part of the
plot for the mainline series.
L176[21:36:54] <Amanda> I see
L177[21:37:10]
<Forecaster> I don't remember most of it
by now
L178[21:37:23]
<Forecaster> it's been like a decade since
I played a C&C game
L179[21:37:27]
<Pokeman2003> I know most of the lore off
the top of my head because its one of my favorite game
series.
L180[21:38:57] <Amanda> I've not played
one in possibly close to 20 years now
L181[21:41:39]
<Pokeman2003> I think I've found the most
annoying thing you could nullify in my OS with "careful"
experimentation
L182[21:42:12]
<Pokeman2003> Instead of dumping the
signals, just redefine signalDump() so it dumps nil every time.
This makes the keyboard unusable, softlocking yourself.
L183[22:04:14]
<Forecaster> for some reason I've decided
all the inventory management apps I've tried suck so now I'm
writing my own system
L184[22:06:40]
<Pokeman2003> I know that feeling.
L185[22:08:06]
<Forecaster> but hey, I've got a working
barcode scanner and the basics set up
L186[22:08:12]
<Forecaster> now all that's left is the
rest of it
L187[22:13:16] <Amanda> bah. I guess I'm
not getting away with no swap and getting hibernation
L188[22:13:36]
<Forecaster> Wut
L189[22:14:16] <Amanda> I was hoping I
could hot-load the swap before going into hibernation, and it'd
Just Work -- no such luck
L190[22:41:17]
<Michiyo>
God damn it... the ear cups on my ~3 month old headset just broke
off...
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L192[22:52:45] <Amanda> ... Well that's
interesting.
L193[22:53:03] <Amanda> Hibernate still
refused to work, and it broke wifi when I tried with a dedicated
swapfile
L194[22:53:20] <Amanda> guess I need a
swap partition after all
L196[23:59:33] <MichiBot> Izaya: Ariri
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