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L10[01:51:43] 
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> I have been trying to get a
script to work on a server that works flawlessly in single player
but for some reason on teh server the modem is not broadcasting (i
have checked that is is not broadcasting with computer right next
to it only pulling modem message events) but the broadcast method
is saying that it is broadcasting
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> I have been trying to get a
script to work on a server that works flawlessly in single player
but for some reason on teh server the modem is not broadcasting (i
have checked that is is not broadcasting with computer right next
to it only pulling modem message events) but the broadcast method
is saying that it is broadcastingL12[01:55:47] <Ariri>
Amanda: we have vein mining btw lmao i forgor, its
oreexcavation
<Ariri>
Amanda: we have vein mining btw lmao i forgor, its
oreexcavationL13[01:57:17] <Z0idberg>
@MR_SPᐰGETTY Did you make sure the computer has enough power?
<Z0idberg>
@MR_SPᐰGETTY Did you make sure the computer has enough power?L14[01:57:40] <Z0idberg>
Checking the code now
<Z0idberg>
Checking the code nowL15[01:57:49] <Z0idberg>
it's kinda messy so gimme a bit.
<Z0idberg>
it's kinda messy so gimme a bit.L16[01:58:12] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> >Z0idberg:
<@351568685997228033> Did you make sure the computer has
enough power?
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> >Z0idberg:
<@351568685997228033> Did you make sure the computer has
enough power?L17[01:58:12] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> it should have plenty of
power
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> it should have plenty of
powerL19[02:05:20] <Z0idberg>
If it works on single player, then I'd try it in a creative case on
multiplayer? see if that functions. I don't see anything obvious
quite yet @MR_SPᐰGETTY
<Z0idberg>
If it works on single player, then I'd try it in a creative case on
multiplayer? see if that functions. I don't see anything obvious
quite yet @MR_SPᐰGETTYL20[02:05:41] <Z0idberg>
If you aren't already using a creative case
<Z0idberg>
If you aren't already using a creative caseL21[02:05:55] <Z0idberg>
Which it doesn't look like it
<Z0idberg>
Which it doesn't look like itL22[02:06:03] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> it is in a tier 1
server
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> it is in a tier 1
serverL23[02:07:41] <Z0idberg>
Makes sense. The reason I mentioned the creative case is that it
will get rid of some specific things that could prevent it from
working.
<Z0idberg>
Makes sense. The reason I mentioned the creative case is that it
will get rid of some specific things that could prevent it from
working.L24[02:08:01] <Z0idberg>
Because if it works in a creative case, then it's a configuration
problem
<Z0idberg>
Because if it works in a creative case, then it's a configuration
problemL25[02:08:16] <Z0idberg>
i.e. not enough power, incorrect setup of sorts..
<Z0idberg>
i.e. not enough power, incorrect setup of sorts..L26[02:08:20] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> in SP it was also in a tier
1 server
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> in SP it was also in a tier
1 serverL27[02:09:32] <Amanda> Spaghetti did you
set the broadcast range to 0 by mistake?
L28[02:10:07] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> no infact i made a
modification to teh code in game to make sure teh strength was set
to 20
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> no infact i made a
modification to teh code in game to make sure teh strength was set
to 20L29[02:10:13] <Ariri>
Amanda: asked martin to run the profiling and he got far but it
crashed for him as well
<Ariri>
Amanda: asked martin to run the profiling and he got far but it
crashed for him as wellL30[02:10:52] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> the only difference between
the setup in SP and teh setup in MP is that teh setup in MP is in
MP instead of SP
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> the only difference between
the setup in SP and teh setup in MP is that teh setup in MP is in
MP instead of SPL31[02:11:59] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> the tier 3 case is the
computer i am using to check if it is actually broadcasting and teh
server rack is where the server is http://tinyurl.com/27o447ks
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> the tier 3 case is the
computer i am using to check if it is actually broadcasting and teh
server rack is where the server is http://tinyurl.com/27o447ksL32[02:13:32] <Z0idberg>
You're using a wireless modem right?
<Z0idberg>
You're using a wireless modem right?L33[02:13:49] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> yes a tier 2 wireless
modem
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> yes a tier 2 wireless
modemL34[02:13:52] <Z0idberg>
That's what it kinda looked like in the picture
<Z0idberg>
That's what it kinda looked like in the pictureL35[02:13:57] <Z0idberg>
hmm
<Z0idberg>
hmmL36[02:14:42] <Z0idberg>
"The server rack is where the server is"
<Z0idberg>
"The server rack is where the server is"L37[02:14:49] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> eys
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> eysL38[02:14:52] <Z0idberg>
You know I never thought
<Z0idberg>
You know I never thoughtL39[02:14:54] <Z0idberg>
😛
<Z0idberg>
😛L40[02:15:13] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> i mean it could have been in
anouther server rack out of sight
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> i mean it could have been in
anouther server rack out of sightL41[02:15:51] <Z0idberg>
Ah but you said in "THE" server rack
<Z0idberg>
Ah but you said in "THE" server rackL42[02:15:56] <Z0idberg>
which has no actual context
<Z0idberg>
which has no actual contextL43[02:16:03] <Z0idberg>
:>
<Z0idberg>
:>L44[02:16:56] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> when i run the script in the
tier 3 computer with a print statement around teh broadcast on line
87 it prints true which tells me that it is broadcasting but when i
try to recieve teh broadcast there is nothing
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> when i run the script in the
tier 3 computer with a print statement around teh broadcast on line
87 it prints true which tells me that it is broadcasting but when i
try to recieve teh broadcast there is nothingL45[02:17:50] <Z0idberg>
Reading from the wrong port?
<Z0idberg>
Reading from the wrong port?L46[02:17:57] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> nope
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> nopeL47[02:18:20] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> it is being broadcast on
port 1 and i am listening on port 1
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> it is being broadcast on
port 1 and i am listening on port 1L48[02:20:34] <Z0idberg>
Yeah I see that
<Z0idberg>
Yeah I see thatL49[02:20:42] <Z0idberg>
and you have your close message hardcoded to port 1 too
<Z0idberg>
and you have your close message hardcoded to port 1 tooL50[02:21:38] <Z0idberg>
Oh yeah
<Z0idberg>
Oh yeahL51[02:22:31] <Z0idberg>
modem.open() returns true / false btw
<Z0idberg>
modem.open() returns true / false btwL52[02:22:32] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> >Z0idberg: and you have
your close message hardcoded to port 1 too
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> >Z0idberg: and you have
your close message hardcoded to port 1 tooL53[02:22:32] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> oops guess i forgot to
replace that 1 with `Port`
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> oops guess i forgot to
replace that 1 with `Port`L54[02:22:36] <Z0idberg>
you could check on that..
<Z0idberg>
you could check on that..L55[02:22:45] <Z0idberg>
but then again it should be because you got an event
<Z0idberg>
but then again it should be because you got an eventL56[02:22:45] <Amanda> @ariri weird. I'll
try it tomorrow when I'm computered, if you don't get it figured
out before I awake
L57[02:22:51] <Z0idberg>
OH
<Z0idberg>
OHL58[02:22:57] <Z0idberg>
@MR_SPᐰGETTY are you aware of dmesg?
<Z0idberg>
@MR_SPᐰGETTY are you aware of dmesg?L59[02:23:16] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> dmesg?
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> dmesg?L60[02:23:19] <Z0idberg>
yes
<Z0idberg>
yesL61[02:23:30] <Z0idberg>
so dmesg on oc is a command that you can use to dump events
<Z0idberg>
so dmesg on oc is a command that you can use to dump eventsL62[02:23:33] <Z0idberg>
ALL events
<Z0idberg>
ALL eventsL63[02:23:36] <Z0idberg>
including modem
<Z0idberg>
including modemL64[02:23:44] <Z0idberg>
it will show you the port and the data that was sent etc
<Z0idberg>
it will show you the port and the data that was sent etcL65[02:23:47] <Z0idberg>
great for debugging
<Z0idberg>
great for debuggingL66[02:23:54] <Z0idberg>
you just run dmesg as a command
<Z0idberg>
you just run dmesg as a commandL67[02:24:00] <Z0idberg>
on the receiving computer
<Z0idberg>
on the receiving computerL68[02:24:10] <Z0idberg>
and then start sending messages out broadcast they'll show up
<Z0idberg>
and then start sending messages out broadcast they'll show upL69[02:26:00] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> well the `Request` message
is not there (it should be after the `stargate_open` event)
http://tinyurl.com/2bjvbwwm
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> well the `Request` message
is not there (it should be after the `stargate_open` event)
http://tinyurl.com/2bjvbwwmL70[02:26:18] <Z0idberg>
pretty cool isn't it 🙂
<Z0idberg>
pretty cool isn't it 🙂L71[02:26:26] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> yes very usefull
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> yes very usefullL72[02:27:07] <Z0idberg>
So the computer isn't receiving the message
<Z0idberg>
So the computer isn't receiving the messageL73[02:27:13] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> indeed
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> indeedL74[02:27:14] <Z0idberg>
It is receiving other messages
<Z0idberg>
It is receiving other messagesL75[02:28:18] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> yes but none of teh ones
from teh server
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> yes but none of teh ones
from teh serverL76[02:28:34] <Z0idberg>
Hmm
<Z0idberg>
HmmL77[02:29:22] <Wattana>
Just in case: does the server have access to the correct size in
the server rack settings?
<Wattana>
Just in case: does the server have access to the correct size in
the server rack settings?L78[02:29:29] <Wattana> I
mean side
<Wattana> I
mean sideL79[02:30:17] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> yes it has acces to teh top
side of the server rack but the side should not affect the wireless
broadcast of teh tier 2 wireless modem
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> yes it has acces to teh top
side of the server rack but the side should not affect the wireless
broadcast of teh tier 2 wireless modemL80[02:56:51] *
Amanda meows sleepily at elfi, not making any sense whatsoever,
slowly drifts off to zzzmews
L81[02:57:14] <Amanda> Night girls
L82[03:02:17] <Ariri>
gnight amanda
<Ariri>
gnight amandaL83[03:13:48] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> so @Z0idberg any other ideas
as to why teh broadcast is not occuring?
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> so @Z0idberg any other ideas
as to why teh broadcast is not occuring?L84[03:40:23] <Z0idberg>
So
<Z0idberg>
SoL85[03:40:40] <Z0idberg>
I don't see why the wireless modem should care at all
<Z0idberg>
I don't see why the wireless modem should care at allL86[03:41:11] <Z0idberg>
But server racks have this whacky relay mode button that can cause
really stupid problems
<Z0idberg>
But server racks have this whacky relay mode button that can cause
really stupid problemsL87[03:41:37] <Z0idberg>
So make sure that's set right even though it would make no sense to
me since it's wireless
<Z0idberg>
So make sure that's set right even though it would make no sense to
me since it's wirelessL88[03:42:28] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> by default it is enabled and
i left it enabled in both sp and mp
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> by default it is enabled and
i left it enabled in both sp and mpL89[03:44:11] <Z0idberg>
You said you set the power level of the wireless card right
<Z0idberg>
You said you set the power level of the wireless card rightL90[03:44:31] <Z0idberg>
I can't look at the moment
<Z0idberg>
I can't look at the momentL91[03:47:05] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> >Z0idberg: You said you
set the power level of the wireless card right
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> >Z0idberg: You said you
set the power level of the wireless card rightL92[03:47:06] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> yes i set it to 20
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> yes i set it to 20L93[03:47:21] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> but that is not in teh code
i uploaded here
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> but that is not in teh code
i uploaded hereL94[03:49:12] <Izaya> double it and try
again
L95[03:58:15] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL96[03:58:16] <MichiBot> Wah! Forecaster!
You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 5 hours, 18 minutes
and 33 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L97[03:58:17] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 5 hours, 18 minutes and 33 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00531)
L98[04:04:33] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> >Izaya: double it and try
again
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> >Izaya: double it and try
againL99[04:04:34] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> doubling it had no
effect
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> doubling it had no
effectL100[04:47:34] <Z0idberg>
Don't even
<Z0idberg>
Don't evenL101[04:47:39] <Z0idberg>
Remove it altogether
<Z0idberg>
Remove it altogetherL102[04:48:04] <Z0idberg>
According to documentation if not set it is 100% Max by
default
<Z0idberg>
According to documentation if not set it is 100% Max by
defaultL103[04:49:36] <Z0idberg>
You're only complicating things by setting the signal strength in
the first place
<Z0idberg>
You're only complicating things by setting the signal strength in
the first placeL104[07:03:17] <RedstoneParkour> Question: did you bind
the metwork card in the server to a side?
<RedstoneParkour> Question: did you bind
the metwork card in the server to a side?L105[07:05:12] <Forecaster> that's only relevant for
wired network connections
<Forecaster> that's only relevant for
wired network connectionsL106[09:19:14] <RedstoneParkour> %tonkout
<RedstoneParkour> %tonkoutL107[09:19:15] <MichiBot> Wah!
RedstoneParkour! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 5
hours, 18 minutes and 33 seconds (By 2 minutes and 25 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L108[09:19:16] <MichiBot> RedstoneParkour
has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk
points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 0.03981. Position #7 Need
0.00719 more points to pass CompanionCube!
L109[09:19:34] <Forecaster> >:
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L112[09:32:33] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> >Z0idberg: Remove it
altogether
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> >Z0idberg: Remove it
altogetherL113[09:32:34] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> before i added teh line to
set the strength the issue was still teh same
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> before i added teh line to
set the strength the issue was still teh sameL114[09:34:12] <Forecaster> you didn't clone the network
card with creative mode did you
<Forecaster> you didn't clone the network
card with creative mode did youL115[09:39:52] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> no i am in survival mode on
the server
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> no i am in survival mode on
the serverL116[12:13:26] <Amanda> Do they have
different uuids in their tooltips?
L117[12:13:40] <Amanda> (they
should)
L118[12:16:27] <Forecaster> broadcasting on a closed
port?
<Forecaster> broadcasting on a closed
port?L119[12:31:23] <Z0idberg>
The port is being opened for sure
<Z0idberg>
The port is being opened for sureL120[12:33:31] <Z0idberg>
I would try it in a creative computer at this point and also
comment out the signal strength line, even if it isn't the problem
it isn't helping and can give you more problems
<Z0idberg>
I would try it in a creative computer at this point and also
comment out the signal strength line, even if it isn't the problem
it isn't helping and can give you more problemsL121[12:34:36] <RedstoneParkour> do you have any blocks
between the two computers?
<RedstoneParkour> do you have any blocks
between the two computers?L122[12:35:52] <Z0idberg>
There's a picture above
<Z0idberg>
There's a picture aboveL123[12:36:26] <RedstoneParkour> yes i know
<RedstoneParkour> yes i knowL124[12:36:43] <Z0idberg>
I don't see anything in there
<Z0idberg>
I don't see anything in thereL125[12:43:49] <RedstoneParkour> very dumb question but:
are you sure it's actually broadcasting?
<RedstoneParkour> very dumb question but:
are you sure it's actually broadcasting?L126[12:44:58] <Z0idberg>
So that's the thing. They tried admesg and it doesn't receive
anything. It worked on single player though.
<Z0idberg>
So that's the thing. They tried admesg and it doesn't receive
anything. It worked on single player though.L127[12:45:44] <RedstoneParkour> hm
<RedstoneParkour> hmL128[12:45:46] <Z0idberg>
That's why I suggest a creative case because it will get rid of a
lot of challenges like power issues.
<Z0idberg>
That's why I suggest a creative case because it will get rid of a
lot of challenges like power issues.L129[12:45:53] <Z0idberg>
So least for testing
<Z0idberg>
So least for testingL130[12:45:57] <RedstoneParkour> time for more dumb
questions
<RedstoneParkour> time for more dumb
questionsL131[12:46:12] <RedstoneParkour> do you have wireless
cards in *both* computers?
<RedstoneParkour> do you have wireless
cards in *both* computers?L132[12:46:40] <Ocawesome101> What version of OC is
this?
<Ocawesome101> What version of OC is
this?L133[12:47:25] <RedstoneParkour> actually, try wrapping
each `Modem.` call in an `assert`
<RedstoneParkour> actually, try wrapping
each `Modem.` call in an `assert`L134[12:47:45] <Z0idberg>
There's also the fact that functions like open return boolean
<Z0idberg>
There's also the fact that functions like open return booleanL135[12:48:09] <RedstoneParkour> yes, i want to catch
that with `assert` wrapping
<RedstoneParkour> yes, i want to catch
that with `assert` wrappingL136[12:48:51] <Z0idberg>
If it were me I would refactor the code, it's pretty messy to be
honest and it's very inconsistent because very little it's reused
or abstracted
<Z0idberg>
If it were me I would refactor the code, it's pretty messy to be
honest and it's very inconsistent because very little it's reused
or abstractedL137[12:49:03] <RedstoneParkour> actually, don't wrap the
`Modem.open` call in an `assert`
<RedstoneParkour> actually, don't wrap the
`Modem.open` call in an `assert`L138[12:49:30] <Z0idberg>
Break the code up into sections and functions that perform smaller
tasks that can be reused
<Z0idberg>
Break the code up into sections and functions that perform smaller
tasks that can be reusedL139[12:49:45] <Z0idberg>
Stop using global variables,
<Z0idberg>
Stop using global variables,L140[12:49:52] <RedstoneParkour> also i think that the
wireless modem doesn't do wireless unless you manually set the
signal strength
<RedstoneParkour> also i think that the
wireless modem doesn't do wireless unless you manually set the
signal strengthL141[12:50:07] <RedstoneParkour> >Z0idberg: Stop using
global variables,
<RedstoneParkour> >Z0idberg: Stop using
global variables,L142[12:50:07] <RedstoneParkour> use camelCase
<RedstoneParkour> use camelCaseL143[12:50:28] <Z0idberg>
Spreading out state into several globals is just asking for
trouble
<Z0idberg>
Spreading out state into several globals is just asking for
troubleL144[12:51:01] <RedstoneParkour> `component.foo` can
error out if component `foo` doesnt exist
<RedstoneParkour> `component.foo` can
error out if component `foo` doesnt existL145[12:51:05] <Z0idberg>
Well I mean using underscores would be fine too but there is
something weird about using title case for some of these. I want
going to say much about it
<Z0idberg>
Well I mean using underscores would be fine too but there is
something weird about using title case for some of these. I want
going to say much about itL146[12:51:32] <Z0idberg>
Wasn't*
<Z0idberg>
Wasn't*L147[12:51:37] ⇦
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L148[12:53:22] <RedstoneParkour> ok found the OC Lua
conventions
<RedstoneParkour> ok found the OC Lua
conventionsL149[12:55:20] <Z0idberg>
I personally find camel case to be very easily annoying but I write
java for work so I do write it
<Z0idberg>
I personally find camel case to be very easily annoying but I write
java for work so I do write itL150[12:55:53] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL151[12:55:54] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins!
Vaur! You beat RedstoneParkour's previous record of <0 (By 3
hours, 36 minutes and 38 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L152[12:55:55] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 3 hours, 36 minutes and 38 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.00361 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L153[12:55:59] <Z0idberg>
I am sick and tired of people who write full sentences in their
function names
<Z0idberg>
I am sick and tired of people who write full sentences in their
function namesL154[12:56:22] <Vaur>
explicite function names are good though
<Vaur>
explicite function names are good thoughL155[12:57:17] <Z0idberg>
setPlayerPassiveBodyArmour()
<Z0idberg>
setPlayerPassiveBodyArmour()L156[12:57:45] <Z0idberg>
I would argue that it would be better in the advice case to move
that functionality down
<Z0idberg>
I would argue that it would be better in the advice case to move
that functionality downL157[12:58:15] <Z0idberg>
Create code that manages passive body armor instead
<Z0idberg>
Create code that manages passive body armor insteadL158[12:59:29] <Z0idberg>
The problem is it's hard to read, and I see too often people will
make giant classes full of hundreds of functions that handle every
case instead of breaking them apart.
<Z0idberg>
The problem is it's hard to read, and I see too often people will
make giant classes full of hundreds of functions that handle every
case instead of breaking them apart.L159[12:59:32] <Vaur>
well, depends on your use case though, if you have 2 functions to
handle body armor you don't need to do an entire class to go
down
<Vaur>
well, depends on your use case though, if you have 2 functions to
handle body armor you don't need to do an entire class to go
downL160[12:59:44] <Z0idberg>
The simpler your classes are the shorter the function names,
usually
<Z0idberg>
The simpler your classes are the shorter the function names,
usuallyL161[12:59:55] <Vaur> ah
yes oversized class can be an issue
<Vaur> ah
yes oversized class can be an issueL162[13:00:41] <Z0idberg>
You may not need an entire class but if you did you could create
them as mixins or use inheritance so that you can scale the armor
system layer
<Z0idberg>
You may not need an entire class but if you did you could create
them as mixins or use inheritance so that you can scale the armor
system layerL163[13:00:48] <Z0idberg>
Later*
<Z0idberg>
Later*L164[13:01:27] <RedstoneParkour> or just use a lot of
abstractions to make one 'armor' interface for every type of
armor
<RedstoneParkour> or just use a lot of
abstractions to make one 'armor' interface for every type of
armorL165[13:01:45] <Z0idberg>
It also can clean the logic up in the main class- yep
<Z0idberg>
It also can clean the logic up in the main class- yepL166[13:01:55] <Z0idberg>
You can overdo it though
<Z0idberg>
You can overdo it thoughL167[13:02:37] <Z0idberg>
If you abstract too far then it can be difficult to piece together
what the code is doing because you have to keep track of more
classes
<Z0idberg>
If you abstract too far then it can be difficult to piece together
what the code is doing because you have to keep track of more
classesL168[13:03:17] <Z0idberg>
I spent all last year understanding a codebase like that for work
rich had no comments or documentation
<Z0idberg>
I spent all last year understanding a codebase like that for work
rich had no comments or documentationL169[13:03:29] <Z0idberg>
Which had*
<Z0idberg>
Which had*L170[13:04:03] <Z0idberg>
And now I'm doing the same but in a codebase with only very little
abstraction at all but no comments
<Z0idberg>
And now I'm doing the same but in a codebase with only very little
abstraction at all but no commentsL171[13:06:01] <Z0idberg>
There's really more than one way to write good code and it can take
years to develop habits that benefit yourself and others.
<Z0idberg>
There's really more than one way to write good code and it can take
years to develop habits that benefit yourself and others.L172[13:06:08]
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L174[13:09:39] <Z0idberg>
I still find tricks here and there today and I've been programming
since 1995. 1
<Z0idberg>
I still find tricks here and there today and I've been programming
since 1995. 1L175[13:10:01] <Z0idberg>
No idea what the 1 was for
<Z0idberg>
No idea what the 1 was forL176[13:17:08] <Z0idberg>
So what I would do with the code pasted earlier, I would create a
function for initializing state. Store it as a table or something
and pass it around. You could create an object but this is just me
because I'm fond of functional programming. Then, I would create
functions that send all of your messages. The open port is state,
so either create a wrapper for sending modem messages using state
or pass state to each modem message generating
<Z0idberg>
So what I would do with the code pasted earlier, I would create a
function for initializing state. Store it as a table or something
and pass it around. You could create an object but this is just me
because I'm fond of functional programming. Then, I would create
functions that send all of your messages. The open port is state,
so either create a wrapper for sending modem messages using state
or pass state to each modem message generatingL177[13:17:08] <Z0idberg>
function,. My preference is to make your functions as stateless as
possible. Use assert like Redstone parkour mentioned. With all
this, create your business logic functions and glue them together
into a main loop or something.
<Z0idberg>
function,. My preference is to make your functions as stateless as
possible. Use assert like Redstone parkour mentioned. With all
this, create your business logic functions and glue them together
into a main loop or something.L178[13:17:56] <SnailDOS>
Anyone know if Sangar is here?
<SnailDOS>
Anyone know if Sangar is here?L179[13:18:01] <SnailDOS>
Or anyone who knows Java?
<SnailDOS>
Or anyone who knows Java?L181[13:18:11] <SnailDOS>
Trying to work out how to compile that
<SnailDOS>
Trying to work out how to compile thatL182[13:18:18] <Z0idberg>
That's a name I haven't heard in a long time
<Z0idberg>
That's a name I haven't heard in a long timeL183[13:18:43] <RedstoneParkour> from what i can tell,
you compile it like a normal Forge mod
<RedstoneParkour> from what i can tell,
you compile it like a normal Forge modL184[13:18:55] <SnailDOS>
>RedstoneParkour: from what i can tell, you compile it like a
normal Forge mod
<SnailDOS>
>RedstoneParkour: from what i can tell, you compile it like a
normal Forge modL185[13:18:55] <SnailDOS>
how so?
<SnailDOS>
how so?L186[13:19:11] <SnailDOS>
`gradlew` and then `gradlew build` worked w/o errors but I don't
know where the JAR is.
<SnailDOS>
`gradlew` and then `gradlew build` worked w/o errors but I don't
know where the JAR is.L187[13:19:40] <Z0idberg>
It is a Gradle project
<Z0idberg>
It is a Gradle projectL188[13:20:29] <Z0idberg>
You need to do more then just compiling though. You will need to
get a bootable image running
<Z0idberg>
You need to do more then just compiling though. You will need to
get a bootable image runningL189[13:20:37] <SnailDOS>
Oh. 😬
<SnailDOS>
Oh. 😬L190[13:20:39] <RedstoneParkour> its in
`build/libs`
<RedstoneParkour> its in
`build/libs`L191[13:20:42] <SnailDOS>
I can't find any prebuilt / documentation
<SnailDOS>
I can't find any prebuilt / documentationL192[13:20:57] <Z0idberg>
It's not released yet
<Z0idberg>
It's not released yetL193[13:21:13] <Z0idberg>
And there is documentation in there just not the kind you're
expecting
<Z0idberg>
And there is documentation in there just not the kind you're
expectingL194[13:21:37] <SnailDOS>
But to compile the code is pretty general documentation that should
be released first, but ok.
<SnailDOS>
But to compile the code is pretty general documentation that should
be released first, but ok.L195[13:21:50] <Z0idberg>
Mmmmm
<Z0idberg>
MmmmmL196[13:21:55] <SnailDOS>
Anyway, I have the jar.
<SnailDOS>
Anyway, I have the jar.L197[13:21:58] <SnailDOS>
What else do i need to do?
<SnailDOS>
What else do i need to do?L198[13:22:02] <Z0idberg>
Most all mods are gr as dle projects
<Z0idberg>
Most all mods are gr as dle projectsL199[13:22:20] <Z0idberg>
So it's considered common knowledge to compile them
<Z0idberg>
So it's considered common knowledge to compile themL200[13:22:28] <RedstoneParkour> put it in your `mods`
folder
<RedstoneParkour> put it in your `mods`
folderL201[13:22:31] <RedstoneParkour> launch forge
<RedstoneParkour> launch forgeL202[13:22:32] <RedstoneParkour> done
<RedstoneParkour> doneL203[13:22:40] <RedstoneParkour> (probably)
<RedstoneParkour> (probably)L204[13:22:54] <Z0idberg>
Oc2 needs a v bootable riscv image
<Z0idberg>
Oc2 needs a v bootable riscv imageL205[13:23:06] <Z0idberg>
Like a riscv Linux image
<Z0idberg>
Like a riscv Linux imageL206[13:23:14] <RedstoneParkour> oh
<RedstoneParkour> ohL207[13:23:14] <SnailDOS>
How the hell do I get that?
<SnailDOS>
How the hell do I get that?L208[13:24:12] <Z0idberg>
You could compile it but I bet you nearly any qemu Linux riscv
image would work
<Z0idberg>
You could compile it but I bet you nearly any qemu Linux riscv
image would workL209[13:24:23] <SnailDOS>
ok so I get the riscv image
<SnailDOS>
ok so I get the riscv imageL210[13:24:25] <SnailDOS>
then what do id o
<SnailDOS>
then what do id oL211[13:24:30] <Z0idberg>
It's there a reason why you're trying to use oc2
specifically?
<Z0idberg>
It's there a reason why you're trying to use oc2
specifically?L212[13:24:41] <SnailDOS>
yes because my friends suck
<SnailDOS>
yes because my friends suckL213[13:24:47] <SnailDOS>
they wont play 1.12.2
<SnailDOS>
they wont play 1.12.2L214[13:24:58] <SnailDOS>
and want to play trashy mods, and OC is what I enjoy.
<SnailDOS>
and want to play trashy mods, and OC is what I enjoy.L215[13:25:15] <SnailDOS>
Especially when I saw OC2 running RiscV architecture, it looked
amazing.
<SnailDOS>
Especially when I saw OC2 running RiscV architecture, it looked
amazing.L216[13:25:24] <SnailDOS>
So I thought "couldn't be that hard to compile,
right?"
<SnailDOS>
So I thought "couldn't be that hard to compile,
right?"L218[13:25:54] <SnailDOS>
brrrrr
<SnailDOS>
brrrrrL219[13:26:40] <RedstoneParkour> well can't find any
image myself so uhh
<RedstoneParkour> well can't find any
image myself so uhhL220[13:26:53] <SnailDOS>
sadflkadklsf
<SnailDOS>
sadflkadklsfL221[13:26:58] <RedstoneParkour> do you want to
cross-compile linux for RISC-V?
<RedstoneParkour> do you want to
cross-compile linux for RISC-V?L222[13:26:58] <SnailDOS>
top 10 reasons why documentation is important
<SnailDOS>
top 10 reasons why documentation is importantL223[13:27:07] <SnailDOS>
no i just want OC2 😂
<SnailDOS>
no i just want OC2 😂L224[13:27:35] <SnailDOS>
I was just curious if Sangar was in this IRC/Discord and could
provide me pre-built files.
<SnailDOS>
I was just curious if Sangar was in this IRC/Discord and could
provide me pre-built files.L225[13:27:50] <Z0idberg>
It's not hard to compile, it just takes a level of understanding
virtual architectures a bit more than the average mod would 😄
<Z0idberg>
It's not hard to compile, it just takes a level of understanding
virtual architectures a bit more than the average mod would 😄L226[13:27:57] <Z0idberg>
Especially since it's not even finished
<Z0idberg>
Especially since it's not even finishedL227[13:28:16] <SnailDOS>
Yeah, I see.
<SnailDOS>
Yeah, I see.L228[13:28:26] <SnailDOS>
I could do it, however, I don't know where the files go, and this
is first time using gradlew.
<SnailDOS>
I could do it, however, I don't know where the files go, and this
is first time using gradlew.L229[13:28:29] <Z0idberg>
sedna is in that group of repositories by the way
<Z0idberg>
sedna is in that group of repositories by the wayL230[13:28:42] <SnailDOS>
>Z0idberg: sedna is in that group of repositories by the
way
<SnailDOS>
>Z0idberg: sedna is in that group of repositories by the
wayL231[13:28:42] <SnailDOS>
So I need to compile them individually?
<SnailDOS>
So I need to compile them individually?L232[13:28:42] <Z0idberg>
sedna is a dependency that sangar has in that github account
<Z0idberg>
sedna is a dependency that sangar has in that github accountL233[13:28:47] <SnailDOS>
👍
<SnailDOS>
👍L234[13:29:08] <Z0idberg>
iirc sedna is the actual RISC-V emulation code.
<Z0idberg>
iirc sedna is the actual RISC-V emulation code.L235[13:29:29] <Z0idberg>
there is documentation in it
<Z0idberg>
there is documentation in itL236[13:29:41] <SnailDOS>
gonan guess its SednaMinecraft
<SnailDOS>
gonan guess its SednaMinecraftL237[13:29:57] <Z0idberg>
ok so SednaMinecraft is probably the dependency mod
<Z0idberg>
ok so SednaMinecraft is probably the dependency modL238[13:30:04] <RedstoneParkour> Markdown Manual is a
curseforge project btw (at https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/markdownmanual)
<RedstoneParkour> Markdown Manual is a
curseforge project btw (at https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/markdownmanual)L239[13:30:43] <SnailDOS>
>RedstoneParkour: Markdown Manual is a curseforge project btw
(at https://www.curseforge.com/���
<SnailDOS>
>RedstoneParkour: Markdown Manual is a curseforge project btw
(at https://www.curseforge.com/���L240[13:30:43] <SnailDOS>
tysm
<SnailDOS>
tysmL241[13:31:36] <RedstoneParkour> SendaMinecraft literally
has 0 code
<RedstoneParkour> SendaMinecraft literally
has 0 codeL242[13:31:50] <SnailDOS>
are u kidding
<SnailDOS>
are u kiddingL243[13:32:12] <SnailDOS>
what the heck am I compiling then
<SnailDOS>
what the heck am I compiling thenL244[13:32:15] <RedstoneParkour> yes im serious
<RedstoneParkour> yes im seriousL245[13:32:20] <RedstoneParkour> you are compiling
nothing
<RedstoneParkour> you are compiling
nothingL246[13:32:42] <SnailDOS>
🤦♂️
<SnailDOS>
🤦♂️L247[13:32:57] <RedstoneParkour> actually it just
compiles sedna using a clever `build.gradle`
<RedstoneParkour> actually it just
compiles sedna using a clever `build.gradle`L248[13:33:04] <SnailDOS>
ah
<SnailDOS>
ahL249[13:33:04] <SnailDOS>
ok cool
<SnailDOS>
ok coolL250[13:33:31] <SnailDOS>
okok this doesnt sound hard
<SnailDOS>
okok this doesnt sound hardL251[13:35:48]
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L253[13:37:39] <SnailDOS>
ok managed to loda in the game 👍
<SnailDOS>
ok managed to loda in the game 👍L254[13:37:42] <SnailDOS>
load*
<SnailDOS>
load*L256[13:39:05] <SnailDOS>
ayyyyyyy
<SnailDOS>
ayyyyyyyL257[13:42:03] <SnailDOS>
Aight,, what should I do in it?
<SnailDOS>
Aight,, what should I do in it?L258[13:42:15] <SnailDOS>
No network, typical busybox environment, I am so limited lol
<SnailDOS>
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L260[13:45:02] <RedstoneParkour> well you are limited by
very little space
<RedstoneParkour> well you are limited by
very little spaceL261[13:45:49] <SnailDOS>
no package manager
<SnailDOS>
no package managerL262[13:45:52] <SnailDOS>
dont know if network works
<SnailDOS>
dont know if network worksL263[13:47:24] <RedstoneParkour> there's an internet
card
<RedstoneParkour> there's an internet
cardL264[13:47:36] <SnailDOS>
ah it has lua preinstalled
<SnailDOS>
ah it has lua preinstalledL265[13:47:39] <RedstoneParkour> and you *might* be able
to get a C compiler on it
<RedstoneParkour> and you *might* be able
to get a C compiler on itL267[13:48:39] <RedstoneParkour> no
<RedstoneParkour> noL269[13:49:17] <RedstoneParkour> also no
<RedstoneParkour> also noL271[13:50:03] <Forecaster> I don't think there's an
internet card by default
<Forecaster> I don't think there's an
internet card by defaultL272[13:50:07] <RedstoneParkour> hm
<RedstoneParkour> hmL273[13:50:14] <RedstoneParkour> me neither, now that i
checked the source code
<RedstoneParkour> me neither, now that i
checked the source codeL274[13:50:24] <Forecaster> Dequbed added that in in a
fork I think
<Forecaster> Dequbed added that in in a
fork I thinkL275[13:50:41] <SnailDOS>
eh
<SnailDOS>
ehL276[13:50:42] <Forecaster> for their server
<Forecaster> for their serverL277[13:50:45] <SnailDOS>
i wanna run stuff
<SnailDOS>
i wanna run stuffL278[13:50:48] <SnailDOS>
but im so limited
<SnailDOS>
but im so limitedL279[13:50:52] <SnailDOS>
since no network
<SnailDOS>
since no networkL280[13:50:58] <Forecaster> that's an indev mod for
you
<Forecaster> that's an indev mod for
youL281[13:51:07] <RedstoneParkour> i think i found it
<RedstoneParkour> i think i found itL283[13:51:28] <dequbed> Yep but it's a
block and does VXLAN which needs a lot of setup
L284[13:52:06] <dequbed> Reasonable for
servers, not so much for single player
L285[13:52:22] <SnailDOS>
>Forecaster: that's an indev mod for you
<SnailDOS>
>Forecaster: that's an indev mod for youL286[13:52:23] <SnailDOS>
still fun
<SnailDOS>
still funL287[13:52:37] <Bob>
>dequbed: Reasonable for servers, not so much for single
player
<Bob>
>dequbed: Reasonable for servers, not so much for single
playerL288[13:52:37] <Bob> how
dare you judge my reasonability
<Bob> how
dare you judge my reasonabilityL289[13:52:39] <SnailDOS>
how 2 create a network
<SnailDOS>
how 2 create a networkL290[13:52:41] <SnailDOS>
i have one server
<SnailDOS>
i have one serverL291[13:52:44] <Bob>
anything for OC2's sake
<Bob>
anything for OC2's sakeL292[13:52:45] <SnailDOS>
setup with a DHCP server
<SnailDOS>
setup with a DHCP serverL293[13:52:52] <SnailDOS>
and im trying to get another one connected
<SnailDOS>
and im trying to get another one connectedL294[13:53:52] <dequbed> @Bob oh shut up
already. It's setup once per world so on a server you only need one
setup for as many people as you want. Do you want to run two real
world computers just to set up VXLAN internet for OC2 in your
SSP?
L295[13:54:04] <Z0idberg>
VXLAN is amazing them
<Z0idberg>
VXLAN is amazing themL296[13:54:08] <Z0idberg>
amazing though*
<Z0idberg>
amazing though*L297[13:54:11] <Z0idberg>
I use VXLANs at home
<Z0idberg>
I use VXLANs at homeL299[13:55:05] <SnailDOS>
what I have atm
<SnailDOS>
what I have atmL300[13:55:06] <Z0idberg>
It can be handy for QoS and stuff
<Z0idberg>
It can be handy for QoS and stuffL301[13:56:21] <Bob>
>dequbed: <@!202281082047954954> oh shut up already. It's
setup once per world s…
<Bob>
>dequbed: <@!202281082047954954> oh shut up already. It's
setup once per world s…L302[13:56:21] <Bob> i'm
now wondering if we can use the file import export cards and pipes
to make a virtual internet or somethinf
<Bob> i'm
now wondering if we can use the file import export cards and pipes
to make a virtual internet or somethinfL303[13:56:31] <Z0idberg>
I've been doing that
<Z0idberg>
I've been doing thatL304[13:56:35] <Bob>
heh
<Bob>
hehL305[13:56:37] <Z0idberg>
wireguard + vxlans + DoH
<Z0idberg>
wireguard + vxlans + DoHL306[13:56:39] <Z0idberg>
😛
<Z0idberg>
😛L307[13:56:50] <dequbed> theres a TAP pull
request on the githubs
L308[13:57:23] <Z0idberg>
If you're interested I'm trying to build a network of federated
networks that use mTLS DoH for their discovery points.
<Z0idberg>
If you're interested I'm trying to build a network of federated
networks that use mTLS DoH for their discovery points.L309[13:58:09] <Bob> too
complicated for me
<Bob> too
complicated for meL310[13:58:13] <Z0idberg>
heh.
<Z0idberg>
heh.L311[13:58:17] <Z0idberg>
That's fair
<Z0idberg>
That's fairL312[13:58:31] <Z0idberg>
what we're trying to do is keep them separated. Instead of routing
through all of eachother and such
<Z0idberg>
what we're trying to do is keep them separated. Instead of routing
through all of eachother and suchL313[13:58:39] <Z0idberg>
the result is a bunch of "bubbles" on the Internet
<Z0idberg>
the result is a bunch of "bubbles" on the InternetL314[13:58:51] <Z0idberg>
some of them even do reverse NAT for anonymity of clients
<Z0idberg>
some of them even do reverse NAT for anonymity of clientsL315[13:59:21] <Z0idberg>
as much as I hate NAT
<Z0idberg>
as much as I hate NATL316[14:00:04] <Bob> i
barely know any networking
<Bob> i
barely know any networkingL317[14:00:19] <Z0idberg>
using mTLS on DoH groups can restrict who can even find the
bubbles
<Z0idberg>
using mTLS on DoH groups can restrict who can even find the
bubblesL318[14:00:20] <lunar_sam> TNv2 at some
point
L319[14:00:32] <Z0idberg>
the problem is when somebody shares the keys
<Z0idberg>
the problem is when somebody shares the keysL320[14:00:40] <Z0idberg>
I don't have a solution for that
<Z0idberg>
I don't have a solution for thatL321[14:05:01] <Z0idberg>
I thought of 2FA but not sure.
<Z0idberg>
I thought of 2FA but not sure.L322[14:05:16] <Z0idberg>
I don't really want them to be as stateful as that
<Z0idberg>
I don't really want them to be as stateful as thatL323[14:05:27] <Z0idberg>
the less information the network knows about the client the
better
<Z0idberg>
the less information the network knows about the client the
betterL324[14:10:10] <Z0idberg>
@RedstoneParkour You going to press enter or what? 😛
<Z0idberg>
@RedstoneParkour You going to press enter or what? 😛L325[14:10:17] <RedstoneParkour> well if someone shares
the keys would that be his fault?
<RedstoneParkour> well if someone shares
the keys would that be his fault?L326[14:11:13] <Z0idberg>
Hm
<Z0idberg>
HmL327[14:11:36] <Z0idberg>
It's not the end of the world, it's not much different than sharing
your password with someone
<Z0idberg>
It's not the end of the world, it's not much different than sharing
your password with someoneL328[14:12:56] <RedstoneParkour> also can you explain how
it works in a bit more detail?
<RedstoneParkour> also can you explain how
it works in a bit more detail?L329[14:12:57] <Z0idberg>
One interesting thing is that if you needed to ban someone it would
be super hard for them to circumvent the ban
<Z0idberg>
One interesting thing is that if you needed to ban someone it would
be super hard for them to circumvent the banL330[14:13:05] <Z0idberg>
because they would need an authorized certificate
<Z0idberg>
because they would need an authorized certificateL331[14:14:30]
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L333[14:19:38] <Z0idberg>
Ok. So our current iteration of this plan is to DoH, we can create
DNS servers that operate over HTTP and use SSL sertificate
fingerprints in order to choose who gets to resolve what hostnames.
This also allows us to use our own TLDs. This doesn't prevent
somebody from sharing IP addresses, but by using DoH clients
resolving hostnames hide the fact that they are actually resolving
them in the first place. That's the first half of it. (Also
bear
<Z0idberg>
Ok. So our current iteration of this plan is to DoH, we can create
DNS servers that operate over HTTP and use SSL sertificate
fingerprints in order to choose who gets to resolve what hostnames.
This also allows us to use our own TLDs. This doesn't prevent
somebody from sharing IP addresses, but by using DoH clients
resolving hostnames hide the fact that they are actually resolving
them in the first place. That's the first half of it. (Also
bearL334[14:19:38] <Z0idberg>
in mind these IP addresses can be invalid on the public
Internet).
<Z0idberg>
in mind these IP addresses can be invalid on the public
Internet).L335[14:19:58] <Z0idberg>
The second half is to recommend use of Wireguard + VXLANs for
grouping together members of a community
<Z0idberg>
The second half is to recommend use of Wireguard + VXLANs for
grouping together members of a communityL336[14:20:07] <Z0idberg>
Wiregard is a pretty nice VPN solution that works great with
VXLANs
<Z0idberg>
Wiregard is a pretty nice VPN solution that works great with
VXLANsL337[14:20:25] <Z0idberg>
and VXLANs allow you to greate the layer 3 bubbles between
others.
<Z0idberg>
and VXLANs allow you to greate the layer 3 bubbles between
others.L338[14:22:29] <RedstoneParkour> ok 2 questions: what is
DoH and what is a VXLAN?
<RedstoneParkour> ok 2 questions: what is
DoH and what is a VXLAN?L339[14:22:31] <Z0idberg>
The other thing is that the security visibility and anonymity of
the whole thing is up to the network implementors. The example
above is not meant to be super secure.
<Z0idberg>
The other thing is that the security visibility and anonymity of
the whole thing is up to the network implementors. The example
above is not meant to be super secure.L340[14:22:37] <Z0idberg>
DoH is DNS over HTTPS
<Z0idberg>
DoH is DNS over HTTPSL341[14:22:44] <Z0idberg>
VXLAN is like VLAN but it's at layer 3
<Z0idberg>
VXLAN is like VLAN but it's at layer 3L342[14:22:54] <Z0idberg>
so it is kind of like a VLAN that can span routed networks
<Z0idberg>
so it is kind of like a VLAN that can span routed networksL343[14:23:37] <Z0idberg>
At my house, I use OSPF between all routers. On top of them I run
vxlans.
<Z0idberg>
At my house, I use OSPF between all routers. On top of them I run
vxlans.L344[14:23:50] <Z0idberg>
all of the computers are in encapsulated vxlans instead of being on
the backbone OSPF network
<Z0idberg>
all of the computers are in encapsulated vxlans instead of being on
the backbone OSPF networkL345[14:25:25] <RedstoneParkour> so is this for real life
or oc?
<RedstoneParkour> so is this for real life
or oc?L346[14:25:37] <Z0idberg>
it's IRL
<Z0idberg>
it's IRLL347[14:25:47] <Z0idberg>
but it'd be cool to glue OC machines into it
<Z0idberg>
but it'd be cool to glue OC machines into itL348[14:26:20] <Z0idberg>
You could create a group of OC2 machines on VXLANs and then
wireguard into the system
<Z0idberg>
You could create a group of OC2 machines on VXLANs and then
wireguard into the systemL349[14:27:23] <Bob> time
to get a OpenBSD box for wireguard and a VXLAN setup
<Bob> time
to get a OpenBSD box for wireguard and a VXLAN setupL350[14:29:06] <Z0idberg>
Bob, you are a BSD user too?
<Z0idberg>
Bob, you are a BSD user too?L351[14:29:22] <Bob> i
have yet to become one
<Bob> i
have yet to become oneL352[14:29:28] <Bob> i
just have only one PC so far
<Bob> i
just have only one PC so farL353[14:29:38] <Bob> and
an abysmally bad mining rig
<Bob> and
an abysmally bad mining rigL354[14:30:47] <Z0idberg>
old mining rigs can make good parallel computing test
subjects
<Z0idberg>
old mining rigs can make good parallel computing test
subjectsL355[14:31:14] <Z0idberg>
I almost tried to make a bitcoin cluster many years ago, and
deciced not to, thinking bitcoin would never really take off
<Z0idberg>
I almost tried to make a bitcoin cluster many years ago, and
deciced not to, thinking bitcoin would never really take offL356[14:31:31] <Z0idberg>
if I did I would have an entire beowulf cluster now to do
programming experiments on
<Z0idberg>
if I did I would have an entire beowulf cluster now to do
programming experiments onL357[14:31:47] <Z0idberg>
That's actually all I wanted
<Z0idberg>
That's actually all I wantedL358[14:31:57] <Z0idberg>
a "rookie supercomputer"
<Z0idberg>
a "rookie supercomputer"L359[14:32:36] <Z0idberg>
@Bob I haven't had time to play with OC2 much but my first project
with it is to get FreeBSD running on it if I can.
<Z0idberg>
@Bob I haven't had time to play with OC2 much but my first project
with it is to get FreeBSD running on it if I can.L360[14:32:44] <Z0idberg>
I just need to build an image for it
<Z0idberg>
I just need to build an image for itL361[14:33:30]
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L362[14:36:25] <Bob>
>Z0idberg: <@202281082047954954> I haven't had time to
play with OC2 much but my …
<Bob>
>Z0idberg: <@202281082047954954> I haven't had time to
play with OC2 much but my …L363[14:36:25] <Bob>
that'd be interesting to see
<Bob>
that'd be interesting to seeL364[14:36:41] <Bob> i
wish we had more time in a day, i just spend a half of it
sleeping
<Bob> i
wish we had more time in a day, i just spend a half of it
sleepingL365[14:36:52] <Z0idberg>
Heh
<Z0idberg>
HehL366[14:36:59] <Z0idberg>
I spent half of it working or taking care of the animals etc
<Z0idberg>
I spent half of it working or taking care of the animals etcL367[14:37:17] <Z0idberg>
We only have geese and chickens thus far
<Z0idberg>
We only have geese and chickens thus farL368[14:37:24] <Z0idberg>
but the geese eat grass like monsters
<Z0idberg>
but the geese eat grass like monstersL369[14:37:43] <Z0idberg>
and they aren't old enough to be left out
<Z0idberg>
and they aren't old enough to be left outL370[14:38:28] <Bob> got
two dogs, a cat, my family and soon a job, unsure where or how
would i sneak off hours
<Bob> got
two dogs, a cat, my family and soon a job, unsure where or how
would i sneak off hoursL371[14:38:35] <Z0idberg>
yeah
<Z0idberg>
yeahL372[14:38:43] <Z0idberg>
3 cats a dog 2 geese and 12 chickens XD
<Z0idberg>
3 cats a dog 2 geese and 12 chickens XDL373[14:38:47] <Z0idberg>
and a job
<Z0idberg>
and a jobL374[14:39:02] <Z0idberg>
and my othe rhalf loves to drag us both into yardwork on the
weekends
<Z0idberg>
and my othe rhalf loves to drag us both into yardwork on the
weekendsL375[14:39:13] <Z0idberg>
so somebody the other day was like "It's friday!"
<Z0idberg>
so somebody the other day was like "It's friday!"L376[14:39:24] <Z0idberg>
and I was like "Just another day closer to working outside all
weekend"
<Z0idberg>
and I was like "Just another day closer to working outside all
weekend"L377[14:39:29] <Z0idberg>
lol
<Z0idberg>
lolL378[14:40:49] <Z0idberg>
But we're getting ready for the wedding so.
<Z0idberg>
But we're getting ready for the wedding so.L379[14:40:52] <Z0idberg>
It's a lot of prep
<Z0idberg>
It's a lot of prepL380[14:42:12] <Bob> good
luck lol
<Bob> good
luck lolL381[14:45:28] ⇦
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L382[14:50:02] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL383[14:50:03] <MichiBot> You drink a
viscous blue potion (New!). Forecaster's hair grows 4 times longer
until their next sip of water.
L384[15:24:13] <Z0idberg>
I pulled a 500GB hard drive out of the fucking mud the other day I
found
<Z0idberg>
I pulled a 500GB hard drive out of the fucking mud the other day I
foundL385[15:24:21] <Z0idberg>
its been there for years I'm sure
<Z0idberg>
its been there for years I'm sureL386[15:24:29] <Z0idberg>
Plugged it in today, did a full SMART test
<Z0idberg>
Plugged it in today, did a full SMART testL387[15:24:31] <Z0idberg>
full pass
<Z0idberg>
full passL388[15:24:57] <Z0idberg>
Has a healthy MS-DOS partition table with assorted stuff on
it
<Z0idberg>
Has a healthy MS-DOS partition table with assorted stuff on
itL389[15:28:10] <Forecaster> pretty sure that's not how
you play a MUD
<Forecaster> pretty sure that's not how
you play a MUDL390[15:29:17] <Z0idberg>
LOL
<Z0idberg>
LOLL391[15:29:24] <Z0idberg>
But hey
<Z0idberg>
But heyL392[15:29:28] <Z0idberg>
free 500GB spinning disk
<Z0idberg>
free 500GB spinning diskL393[15:29:38] <Z0idberg>
it's too bad it wasn't 1TB because then I could RAID it
<Z0idberg>
it's too bad it wasn't 1TB because then I could RAID itL394[16:21:52]
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L395[16:44:46] <RedstoneParkour> %tonk
<RedstoneParkour> %tonkL396[16:44:47] <MichiBot> Holy ornate
chandelier Batman! RedstoneParkour! You beat Vaur's previous
record of 3 hours, 36 minutes and 38 seconds (By 12 minutes and 14
seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L397[16:44:48] <MichiBot>
RedstoneParkour's new record is 3 hours, 48 minutes and 53 seconds!
RedstoneParkour also gained 0.0008 (0.0002 x 4) tonk points for
stealing the tonk. Position #7. Need 0.00639 more points to pass
CompanionCube!
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L400[19:48:27] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> >Z0idberg: Well I mean
using underscores would be fine too but there is something weird
a…
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> >Z0idberg: Well I mean
using underscores would be fine too but there is something weird
a…L401[19:48:28] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> If you are talink about PoO
it is am acronym for Point of Origin
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> If you are talink about PoO
it is am acronym for Point of OriginL402[19:59:51] <Z0idberg>
No
<Z0idberg>
NoL403[20:00:25] <Z0idberg>
And honestly it's probably better to just use origin
<Z0idberg>
And honestly it's probably better to just use originL404[20:13:04] <Amanda> %remindme 5m check
phone
L405[20:13:04] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"check phone" in 5m at 07/03/2022 08:18:04 PM
L406[20:18:05] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
check phone
L407[20:19:24] <Amanda> %remindme 10m
again
L408[20:19:24] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"again" in 10m at 07/03/2022 08:29:23 PM
L409[20:29:24] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
again
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L412[22:12:04] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> ok @Z0idberg i have done as
much refactoring as i feel i can and have added comments to most of
the code and there should be no more global variables https://tinyurl.com/2495qdne
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> ok @Z0idberg i have done as
much refactoring as i feel i can and have added comments to most of
the code and there should be no more global variables https://tinyurl.com/2495qdneL413[22:23:35] <Z0idberg>
You didn't have to, I just suggested it on order to help make it
easier to find problems
<Z0idberg>
You didn't have to, I just suggested it on order to help make it
easier to find problemsL414[22:23:42] <Z0idberg>
I'll take a look in a minute
<Z0idberg>
I'll take a look in a minuteL415[22:25:51] <Z0idberg>
I work as a software engineer, and that doesn't make me any better
then you, but the cleaner, more consistent and concise you're code
is, the better a programmer you will be, imo
<Z0idberg>
I work as a software engineer, and that doesn't make me any better
then you, but the cleaner, more consistent and concise you're code
is, the better a programmer you will be, imoL416[22:28:27] <Z0idberg>
I am always striving to write better every day even having been
writing code for almost 30 years now
<Z0idberg>
I am always striving to write better every day even having been
writing code for almost 30 years nowL417[23:07:24] ⇦
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L418[23:09:33] <Forecaster> %tonkout
<Forecaster> %tonkoutL419[23:09:34] <MichiBot> Uh-oh!
Forecaster! You beat RedstoneParkour's previous record of 3
hours, 48 minutes and 53 seconds (By 2 hours, 35 minutes and 52
seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L420[23:09:35] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk
points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 2.19763625. Position #2 Need
0.35275 more points to pass Vaur!
L422[23:24:09] <Amanda> Forecaster
evil