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L4[00:48:10] <Amanda> %choose candy or ice creqm
L5[00:48:10] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I received a message from future you, said to go with "candy".
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L9[01:45:40] <Wat​tana> been working on block file support for cynosure http://tinyurl.com/226bdy2r
L10[01:45:52] <Wat​tana> will work on unmanaged disks soon lol
L11[01:47:33] <Amanda> %choose cubes or be responsible
L12[01:47:34] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I saw that "cubes" is the best choice in a vision
L13[02:06:08] <Amanda> Nah, imma get ready to zzzmew
L14[02:08:03] <Ocawes​ome101> Very nice @Wattana
L15[02:16:23] * Amanda cuddles up around elfi, collapsing into a pile of floof, meows about her day, and her never-ending quest to bap all the letters of the alphabet off the linguistic stage, zzzmews
L16[02:16:37] <Amanda> Night nerds
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L19[02:21:35] <Z0id​berg> Why do you squish your code so much
L20[02:21:55] <Z0id​berg> It makes it annoying to read
L21[02:21:58] <Ocawes​ome101> ?
L22[02:22:46] <Z0id​berg> Just Wattana's screenshot
L23[02:22:53] <Ocawes​ome101> that's the default lua bios eeprom
L24[02:22:58] <Z0id​berg> Oh
L25[02:23:07] <Z0id​berg> Oh yeah I guess it is
L26[02:23:11] <Z0id​berg> Makes sense then
L27[02:23:42] <Z0id​berg> I was like... Your don't seriously write like that everywhere do you? Lol
L28[02:25:32] <Ocawes​ome101> i have written code that looks like that
L29[02:25:43] <Ocawes​ome101> i find it moderately readable, though i do use more whitespace now
L30[02:34:12] <Ocawes​ome101> i really wish there was a good debugger for OC
L31[02:34:20] <Ocawes​ome101> like one that could do memory usage tracing and stuff
L32[02:34:30] <Ocawes​ome101> it would help a lot with ULOS 2's weird memory leak
L33[03:55:44] <Wat​tana> does anyone else think the texture for creative computer cases looks too dark?
L34[05:08:38] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L35[05:08:39] <MichiBot> Zoinks! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 11 hours, 56 minutes and 6 seconds (By 1 hour, 26 minutes and 39 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L36[05:08:40] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.013 tonk points! plus 0.012 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 2.17082625. Position #2 Need 0.37595 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L43[07:50:16] <Wat​tana> What naming scheme do you guys suggest I use for drive device files in Cynosure 2?
L44[08:19:24] <Redston​eParkour> %tonk
L45[08:19:25] <MichiBot> Waesucks! Redston​eParkour! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 10 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L46[08:19:26] <MichiBot> RedstoneParkour's new record is 3 hours, 10 minutes and 45 seconds! RedstoneParkour also gained 0.00318 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #9 => #8. (Overtook Xandaros) Need 0.00391 more points to pass The P​atmann!
L47[08:21:58] <Redston​eParkour> i'd say `hdx` for hard drives, floppy disks and RAIDs and `tdx` for Computronics tapes
L48[08:53:25] <Va​ur> %sip
L49[08:53:26] <MichiBot> You drink a sedimented citrus potion (New!). Vaur's nails turn the color of dalekanium until they find a lamp.
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L55[10:33:07] <Amanda> %splash Inari with mutable potion
L56[10:33:08] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable blue potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns into a dalekanium octopus girl for 8 moons.
L57[10:33:19] <Amanda> Ohno
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L60[10:50:12] <luna​r_sam> >Wattana: What naming scheme do you guys suggest I use for drive device files in Cynos…
L61[10:50:12] <luna​r_sam> been a while since i've done OC, don't remember if you can tell raids from drives, but `hdX` for hard drives, `rdX` for RAIDs (dunno how you'd even expose those as a device file), `mdX` for a "true RAID", `fdX` for floppies, and `tapeX` for tapes, i guess
L62[11:38:09] <Redston​eParkour> %tonk
L63[11:38:09] <MichiBot> Uh-oh! Redston​eParkour! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 10 minutes and 45 seconds (By 7 minutes and 58 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L64[11:38:11] <MichiBot> RedstoneParkour's new record is 3 hours, 18 minutes and 44 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00013 x 4 = 0.00052)
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L67[14:47:48] <Z0id​berg> >Wattana: does anyone else think the texture for creative computer cases looks too da…
L68[14:47:48] <Z0id​berg> As someone who only plays on moody, I never thought so
L69[14:48:32] <Amanda> WTF @Z0idberg
L70[14:48:59] <Z0id​berg> Sorry I forgot
L71[14:50:33] <Amanda> I mean it, wtf. How the fuck can you see anything on moody!?
L72[14:51:13] <Amanda> Whenever I forget to put on max brightness, I end up placing torches every other fucking block
L73[14:53:31] <Amanda> Does maine not have electric lighting, so you're used to fucking oil lamps, @Z0idberg?!
L74[14:53:54] <M​GR> Moody isn't too bad, and I'm not a Maineiac
L75[14:54:03] <M​GR> I don't usually play on it though
L76[15:06:42] <Redston​eParkour> %tonkout
L77[15:06:43] <MichiBot> Holy attempt to index nil value Batman! Redston​eParkour! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 18 minutes and 44 seconds (By 9 minutes and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L78[15:06:44] <MichiBot> Redston​eParkour has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.02881, Position #8 => #7 (Overtook The Patmann) Need 0.01819 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L79[15:41:35] <Z0id​berg> Oh I thought you were mad about using reply on discord
L80[15:43:13] <Z0id​berg> To be honest though when I was growing up we did have propane lamps
L81[15:43:40] <Z0id​berg> It was nice because we had lights when the power was out
L82[15:46:55] <Z0id​berg> I find that moody makes the game look more pleasant to look at, so I just always played on that setting. I tend to place torches mathematically by block count too rather than brightness
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L84[16:27:13] <Izaya> I like half way between
L85[16:27:26] <Izaya> moody makes caves ... difficult, but bright is washed out
L86[16:41:47] <Ocawes​ome101> I play on bright
L87[16:41:51] <Ocawes​ome101> Can't stand moody
L88[17:33:00] <lukas​z4444> **Can anyone create program that dials random stargate address and if it founds one it prints it into file and search until every combination possible was tired?**
L89[17:34:46] <lukas​z4444> **something like https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenComputers/comments/kxk8nz/sgcraft_war_dialing_program/**
L90[17:40:12] <lukas​z4444> ps the last 2 symbols are the same, for example -pl -ml so please take into account the possibility of selecting the ending ok?
L91[17:40:22] <lukas​z4444> please
L92[17:45:39] <Amanda> We're not your code monkies
L93[17:50:10] <Z0id​berg> Why won't you do it?
L94[17:50:17] <Z0id​berg> It's not hard
L95[17:50:32] <Z0id​berg> @lukasz4444
L96[17:50:57] <lukas​z4444> it could find any code for any alng that chesk rondom combination of anything
L97[17:51:27] <lukas​z4444> and lua is my first minecraft prorgramming language
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L99[17:52:45] <Z0id​berg> It's not like it's unlike anything else that's imperative
L100[17:53:47] <Z0id​berg> There's docs at ocdoc.cil.li
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L104[18:01:57] <Redston​eParkour> just did some checking, and the `dial(address: string)` function returns within *one* tick when giving an invalid address
L105[18:03:03] <Ar​iri> yea wardialing has been done, it's just a matter of correctly generating the the addresses using point of origin
L106[18:03:48] <Redston​eParkour> that means it takes at most 3918208204.8 seconds to find the 7 chevrons of the address per wardialer
L107[18:11:22] <Redston​eParkour> and that would mean that with a single wardialer it will take until 2146 to find those 7 chevrons (in the worst case)
L108[18:11:42] <Redston​eParkour> so not good
L109[18:11:55] <lukas​z4444> ok. but how to make function that check evyer single combination of anything in oc
L110[18:13:34] <lukas​z4444> and can someone give ma tutorial how to create gui from scratch in oc?
L111[18:14:24] <Redston​eParkour> >lukasz4444: and can someone give ma tutorial how to create gui from scratch in oc?
L112[18:14:25] <Redston​eParkour> just don't. using `print(...)` when a match is found and redirecting stdout to a file is enough
L113[18:15:18] <lukas​z4444> i mean clickable gui something like mon used in thatpardox dial app
L114[18:15:38] <Forec​aster> maybe learn how to make a basic program first
L115[18:16:07] <lukas​z4444> >Forecaster: maybe learn how to make a basic program first
L116[18:16:08] <lukas​z4444> i know that but i wanna do something more advenced and there is not tutorials in web for that.
L117[18:18:20] <Redston​eParkour> yes we know and a gui pretty much overcomplicates things
L118[18:23:59] <Redston​eParkour> also because of the time it takes you will have to use networking to allow multiple computers to work together and have *a lot* of stargates
L119[18:25:06] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L120[18:25:07] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Forec​aster! You beat Redston​eParkour's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 18 minutes and 23 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L121[18:25:08] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 3 hours, 18 minutes and 23 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00331 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.37264 more points to pass Va​ur!
L122[18:25:42] <Redston​eParkour> how many? if you want to wardial all addresses within one week, you need 6479 computers and stargates
L123[18:26:15] <Redston​eParkour> yes im serious
L124[18:26:28] <Redston​eParkour> and thats only for 7 chevron addresses
L125[18:28:02] <lukas​z4444> no. it could just rember what point it ended and svae it ino file reboot the pc read from file and continue searching
L126[18:28:30] <Redston​eParkour> then it still takes 6479 to wardial *all* addresses within one week
L127[18:29:46] <Redston​eParkour> so you pretty much have to have literally creative amounts of resources to wardial
L128[18:32:19] <lukas​z4444> but is just one program that does that exist?
L129[18:32:53] <Redston​eParkour> no + would probably be a 'master' and 'slave' program
L130[18:33:50] <lukas​z4444> they didn't make that program?
L131[18:33:51] <lukas​z4444> https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenComputers/comments/kxk8nz/sgcraft_war_dialing_program/
L132[18:35:40] <Redston​eParkour> they didnt make any program
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L134[18:41:32] <Redston​eParkour> if you want to make a wardialing program though, you should make 2 programs, where one does the actual dialing (slave) and the other tells the slave computers to start wardialing and from where to where by using the OC network card (master)
L135[18:42:50] <Z0id​berg> Don't all ic computers run on the same thread?
L136[18:42:55] <Z0id​berg> Oc*
L137[18:43:02] <Redston​eParkour> i think its by default 4 threads
L138[18:43:08] <Redston​eParkour> but all dial calls are normal calls
L139[18:43:11] <Redston​eParkour> so they take one tick
L140[18:43:25] <Redston​eParkour> and execute in one thread...
L141[18:43:29] <Z0id​berg> Yeah makes sense
L142[18:43:44] <Z0id​berg> So it converges anyways
L143[18:44:23] <Redston​eParkour> yes but i assume that dialing 6479 times a tick takes less time than an actual tick (25 ms)
L144[18:44:37] <Redston​eParkour> which makes it worthwhile to use so many computers
L145[18:44:51] <Redston​eParkour> i might be very wrong with that assumtion tho
L146[18:45:05] <Z0id​berg> One way to find out
L147[18:45:20] <Redston​eParkour> build 6479 computers and stargates
L148[18:45:27] <Z0id​berg> Haha
L149[18:45:43] <Z0id​berg> Use trotwood, if I was even nearly finished with it
L150[18:45:53] <Z0id​berg> It'd be perfect for that
L151[18:45:58] <Redston​eParkour> of course not, its 'force about 100 robots to build those 6479 computers and stargates'
L152[18:46:19] <Z0id​berg> Trotwood allows up to 4096 computers per cluster
L153[18:46:28] <Redston​eParkour> what is trotwood?
L154[18:47:59] <Z0id​berg> It's a operating system I work on seldomly when I have actual time for OC that distributes itself across multiple computers in order to overcome multiple obstacles such as component limits.
L155[18:48:27] <Redston​eParkour> kind of interested how it works
L156[18:48:53] <Z0id​berg> You could for example, build an entire railroad system with a computer at every station and junction and when you write programs on it you write them for the entire cluster as if it were one computer
L157[18:49:00] <Redston​eParkour> o
L158[18:49:15] <Z0id​berg> Like building a hive
L159[18:49:28] <Redston​eParkour> so basically, it allows seamless remote component access?
L160[18:49:55] <Z0id​berg> Yep
L161[18:50:38] <Redston​eParkour> huh, im working on an os myself (also seldomly) that has very swappable driver support (in the works tho)
L162[18:51:02] <Redston​eParkour> meaning i can very easily implement that myself too
L163[18:52:47] <Z0id​berg> My design followsa lot of the concepts used in erlang
L164[18:53:04] <Z0id​berg> So it's all about writing actors that use ipc to send messages
L165[18:54:07] <Z0id​berg> And the system has no filesystem router (no vfs) like Linux does. It uses something called a resource manager that uses resource mapping devices in order to map resource URLs into process ids
L166[18:54:38] <Z0id​berg> This includes filesystem stuff as well. But can be network or anything
L167[18:55:15] <Redston​eParkour> i think i saw something about that earlier where you use `component://foo` to access a component
L168[18:57:05] <Z0id​berg> Yes.
L169[18:57:19] <Z0id​berg> Or even http://Google.com
L170[18:57:22] <Z0id​berg> That's also valid
L171[18:57:24] <lukas​z4444> can you give me quick tutorial of making multi page gui?
L172[18:57:44] <Z0id​berg> Why focus on gui?
L173[18:58:13] <Z0id​berg> I absolutely despise gui for anything except something virtual like 3D CAD where is makes sense
L174[18:59:55] <Z0id​berg> You know on my desktop computer
L175[18:59:57] <lukas​z4444> >Z0idberg: I absolutely despise gui for anything except something virtual like 3D CAD wh…
L176[18:59:57] <lukas​z4444> i wanna fork https://youtu.be/6bpzHJig8LM to oc because it has very useful features
L177[19:01:08] <Z0id​berg> I use the gui only to manage a heck ton of terminals to docli stuff all day at home and work
L178[19:01:10] <Forec​aster> if you don't know how to write a program without a gui you're going to have an even harder time writing one with a gui
L179[19:01:27] <Redston​eParkour> i would probably use gui when i have to display multiple things at once
L180[19:01:48] <lukas​z4444> but how to make gui with multiple pages with oc
L181[19:18:57] <lukas​z4444> @Forecaster you tell me so how to make it?
L182[19:19:39] <Forec​aster> use gpu to draw things on screen
L183[19:20:47] <lukas​z4444> but that dosen't make click able buttons
L184[19:20:56] <lukas​z4444> nad multiple pages of buttons
L185[19:21:19] <Forec​aster> not on it's own no
L186[19:21:27] <Forec​aster> but you'll have to figure those parts out yourself
L187[20:00:53] <B​ob> the fact that something is a button is just the system reacting to you clicking on the image of a button and giving feedback
L188[20:01:04] <B​ob> otherwise we're just all monkeys starting on changing color pixels on a screen
L189[20:01:17] <Z0id​berg> Guis are dumb
L190[20:01:57] <B​ob> CLI rules the world
L191[20:02:13] <Z0id​berg> Like I said at work and home I use a gui of clis ahahaha
L192[20:02:25] <Z0id​berg> Terminals all over the place
L193[20:02:47] <B​ob> i have way too many xfce4 terminal instances with pretty transparency effets
L194[20:03:07] <Z0id​berg> I have been using a combination of cool retro term and urxvt
L195[20:03:18] <Z0id​berg> http://tinyurl.com/2c6jc274
L196[20:03:24] <Z0id​berg> Here's me playing dwarf fortress
L197[20:03:37] <Z0id​berg> http://tinyurl.com/23vmkvvk
L198[20:03:39] <Z0id​berg> And assassin
L199[20:03:43] <Z0id​berg> Again*
L200[20:04:04] <B​ob> we should be able to make a CLI OC virtual simulator akin to Ocelot but within a CLI
L201[20:04:23] <Z0id​berg> Never heard of ocelot
L202[20:04:31] <Z0id​berg> How does it compare to ocvm?
L203[20:04:36] <B​ob> well its more of a visual editor
L204[20:04:41] <Z0id​berg> Oh
L205[20:04:44] <B​ob> you can see the connections and all within a GUI
L206[20:04:48] <B​ob> i've wanted to do that for a while
L207[20:04:55] <B​ob> i have a concurent node editor lying somewhere in JavaFX
L208[20:05:02] <B​ob> god i fucking despise Java and JavaFX
L209[20:05:03] <Z0id​berg> At one point I wanted to make something like oc then payonel did
L210[20:05:21] <B​ob> why must've i been born when all the cool shit gets made before my eyes
L211[20:05:32] <Z0id​berg> I wonder if payonel ever merged my pill request I made to implement freebsd to support for ocvm
L212[20:05:41] <Z0id​berg> Pull request*
L213[20:06:21] <Z0id​berg> Make something like ocvm I mean
L214[20:06:45] <B​ob> i mean its never too late
L215[20:06:56] <B​ob> i've been wanting to reimplement the Lua VM in Rust then make an OC emu
L216[20:07:14] <B​ob> but god my time management and the stuff thats happening around me just makes me do nothing 24/24
L217[20:07:46] <Z0id​berg> https://github.com/payonel/ocvm/pull/46
L218[20:07:50] <Z0id​berg> Nope
L219[20:07:55] <Z0id​berg> Not merged yet lol
L220[20:09:21] <B​ob> my CubicChunks fix never got merged either and Asie went ahead and just added it in his OC 1.7.6 PR anyways lol
L221[20:09:28] <B​ob> i should revisit my OC fork again
L222[20:09:41] <Z0id​berg> Lol
L223[20:09:45] <B​ob> decouple item tiers from item capabilities then make an addon where i add a CubicChunks infinite flight upgrade
L224[20:09:47] <B​ob> fuck forge gradle
L225[20:09:55] <B​ob> but Asie did the thing and make OC work with the latest so
L226[20:09:58] <B​ob> i dont have to suffer
L227[20:10:07] <Z0id​berg> Has anyone worked in the fabric oc fork someone was working on?
L228[20:10:13] <Z0id​berg> Lately
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L230[20:11:41] <Z0id​berg> I've been thinking about finishing trotwood for the idea to embed it into my little wireless SoC mod thing I started writing in fabric
L231[20:12:20] <Z0id​berg> Trotwood has a compatibility layer which I originally intended for computer craft
L232[20:12:48] <Z0id​berg> The way it receives events is abstracted
L233[20:14:30] <B​ob> i dont think any progress besides on OC2 has been made
L234[20:14:43] <B​ob> Asie did start a week ago working on pushing OC 1.7.6
L235[20:14:53] <B​ob> then i think ill take the inertia and do what i wanted for a while
L236[20:15:03] <B​ob> at least i hope, i'm so god damn tired its fucking crazy
L237[22:39:42] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L238[22:39:43] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 18 minutes and 23 seconds (By 56 minutes and 12 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L239[22:39:44] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.18413625, Position #2 Need 0.36264 more points to pass Va​ur!
L240[23:33:31] <Wat​tana> >Ocawesome101: I play on bright
L241[23:33:31] <Wat​tana> I play at half brightness
L242[23:33:39] <Ocawes​ome101> that's a reasonable medium
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