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L4[00:48:10] <Amanda> %choose candy or ice
creqm
L5[00:48:10] <MichiBot> Amanda: I received
a message from future you, said to go with "candy".
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<Wattana>
will work on unmanaged disks soon lol
L11[01:47:33] <Amanda> %choose cubes or be
responsible
L12[01:47:34] <MichiBot> Amanda: I saw
that "cubes" is the best choice in a vision
L13[02:06:08] <Amanda> Nah, imma get ready
to zzzmew
L14[02:08:03]
<Ocawesome101> Very nice @Wattana
L15[02:16:23] *
Amanda cuddles up around elfi, collapsing into a pile of floof,
meows about her day, and her never-ending quest to bap all the
letters of the alphabet off the linguistic stage,
zzzmews
L16[02:16:37] <Amanda> Night nerds
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<Z0idberg>
Why do you squish your code so much
L20[02:21:55]
<Z0idberg>
It makes it annoying to read
L21[02:21:58]
<Ocawesome101> ?
L22[02:22:46]
<Z0idberg>
Just Wattana's screenshot
L23[02:22:53]
<Ocawesome101> that's the default lua bios
eeprom
L24[02:22:58]
<Z0idberg>
Oh
L25[02:23:07]
<Z0idberg>
Oh yeah I guess it is
L26[02:23:11]
<Z0idberg>
Makes sense then
L27[02:23:42]
<Z0idberg>
I was like... Your don't seriously write like that everywhere do
you? Lol
L28[02:25:32]
<Ocawesome101> i have written code that
looks like that
L29[02:25:43]
<Ocawesome101> i find it moderately
readable, though i do use more whitespace now
L30[02:34:12]
<Ocawesome101> i really wish there was a
good debugger for OC
L31[02:34:20]
<Ocawesome101> like one that could do
memory usage tracing and stuff
L32[02:34:30]
<Ocawesome101> it would help a lot with
ULOS 2's weird memory leak
L33[03:55:44]
<Wattana>
does anyone else think the texture for creative computer cases
looks too dark?
L34[05:08:38]
<Forecaster> %tonkout
L35[05:08:39] <MichiBot> Zoinks!
Forecaster! You beat Vaur's previous record of 11 hours, 56
minutes and 6 seconds (By 1 hour, 26 minutes and 39 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L36[05:08:40] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.013 tonk
points! plus 0.012 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 2.17082625. Position #2 Need
0.37595 more points to pass Vaur!
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<Wattana>
What naming scheme do you guys suggest I use for drive device files
in Cynosure 2?
L44[08:19:24]
<RedstoneParkour> %tonk
L45[08:19:25] <MichiBot> Waesucks!
RedstoneParkour! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0
(By 3 hours, 10 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L46[08:19:26] <MichiBot> RedstoneParkour's
new record is 3 hours, 10 minutes and 45 seconds! RedstoneParkour
also gained 0.00318 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #9
=> #8. (Overtook Xandaros) Need 0.00391 more points to pass The
Patmann!
L47[08:21:58]
<RedstoneParkour> i'd say `hdx` for hard
drives, floppy disks and RAIDs and `tdx` for Computronics
tapes
L48[08:53:25]
<Vaur>
%sip
L49[08:53:26] <MichiBot> You drink a
sedimented citrus potion (New!). Vaur's nails turn the color of
dalekanium until they find a lamp.
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L55[10:33:07] <Amanda> %splash Inari with
mutable potion
L56[10:33:08] <MichiBot> You fling a
mutable blue potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns
into a dalekanium octopus girl for 8 moons.
L57[10:33:19] <Amanda> Ohno
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<lunar_sam>
>Wattana: What naming scheme do you guys suggest I use for drive
device files in Cynos…
L61[10:50:12]
<lunar_sam>
been a while since i've done OC, don't remember if you can tell
raids from drives, but `hdX` for hard drives, `rdX` for RAIDs
(dunno how you'd even expose those as a device file), `mdX` for a
"true RAID", `fdX` for floppies, and `tapeX` for tapes, i
guess
L62[11:38:09]
<RedstoneParkour> %tonk
L63[11:38:09] <MichiBot> Uh-oh!
RedstoneParkour! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 10
minutes and 45 seconds (By 7 minutes and 58 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L64[11:38:11] <MichiBot> RedstoneParkour's
new record is 3 hours, 18 minutes and 44 seconds! No points gained
for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00013 x 4 =
0.00052)
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<Z0idberg>
>Wattana: does anyone else think the texture for creative
computer cases looks too da…
L68[14:47:48]
<Z0idberg>
As someone who only plays on moody, I never thought so
L69[14:48:32] <Amanda> WTF @Z0idberg
L70[14:48:59]
<Z0idberg>
Sorry I forgot
L71[14:50:33] <Amanda> I mean it, wtf. How
the fuck can you see anything on moody!?
L72[14:51:13] <Amanda> Whenever I forget to
put on max brightness, I end up placing torches every other fucking
block
L73[14:53:31] <Amanda> Does maine not have
electric lighting, so you're used to fucking oil lamps,
@Z0idberg?!
L74[14:53:54]
<MGR> Moody
isn't too bad, and I'm not a Maineiac
L75[14:54:03]
<MGR> I
don't usually play on it though
L76[15:06:42]
<RedstoneParkour> %tonkout
L77[15:06:43] <MichiBot> Holy attempt to
index nil value Batman! RedstoneParkour! You beat your own
previous record of 3 hours, 18 minutes and 44 seconds (By 9 minutes
and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L78[15:06:44] <MichiBot> RedstoneParkour
has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points!
plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.02881, Position #8 => #7 (Overtook The Patmann) Need 0.01819
more points to pass CompanionCube!
L79[15:41:35]
<Z0idberg>
Oh I thought you were mad about using reply on discord
L80[15:43:13]
<Z0idberg>
To be honest though when I was growing up we did have propane
lamps
L81[15:43:40]
<Z0idberg>
It was nice because we had lights when the power was out
L82[15:46:55]
<Z0idberg>
I find that moody makes the game look more pleasant to look at, so
I just always played on that setting. I tend to place torches
mathematically by block count too rather than brightness
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L84[16:27:13] <Izaya> I like half way
between
L85[16:27:26] <Izaya> moody makes caves ...
difficult, but bright is washed out
L86[16:41:47]
<Ocawesome101> I play on bright
L87[16:41:51]
<Ocawesome101> Can't stand moody
L88[17:33:00]
<lukasz4444> **Can anyone create program
that dials random stargate address and if it founds one it prints
it into file and search until every combination possible was
tired?**
L90[17:40:12]
<lukasz4444> ps the last 2 symbols are the
same, for example -pl -ml so please take into account the
possibility of selecting the ending ok?
L91[17:40:22]
<lukasz4444> please
L92[17:45:39] <Amanda> We're not your code
monkies
L93[17:50:10]
<Z0idberg>
Why won't you do it?
L94[17:50:17]
<Z0idberg>
It's not hard
L95[17:50:32]
<Z0idberg>
@lukasz4444
L96[17:50:57]
<lukasz4444> it could find any code for
any alng that chesk rondom combination of anything
L97[17:51:27]
<lukasz4444> and lua is my first minecraft
prorgramming language
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<Z0idberg>
It's not like it's unlike anything else that's imperative
L100[17:53:47]
<Z0idberg>
There's docs at ocdoc.cil.li
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L104[18:01:57]
<RedstoneParkour> just did some checking,
and the `dial(address: string)` function returns within *one* tick
when giving an invalid address
L105[18:03:03]
<Ariri> yea
wardialing has been done, it's just a matter of correctly
generating the the addresses using point of origin
L106[18:03:48]
<RedstoneParkour> that means it takes at
most 3918208204.8 seconds to find the 7 chevrons of the address per
wardialer
L107[18:11:22]
<RedstoneParkour> and that would mean that
with a single wardialer it will take until 2146 to find those 7
chevrons (in the worst case)
L108[18:11:42]
<RedstoneParkour> so not good
L109[18:11:55]
<lukasz4444> ok. but how to make function
that check evyer single combination of anything in oc
L110[18:13:34]
<lukasz4444> and can someone give ma
tutorial how to create gui from scratch in oc?
L111[18:14:24]
<RedstoneParkour> >lukasz4444: and can
someone give ma tutorial how to create gui from scratch in
oc?
L112[18:14:25]
<RedstoneParkour> just don't. using
`print(...)` when a match is found and redirecting stdout to a file
is enough
L113[18:15:18]
<lukasz4444> i mean clickable gui
something like mon used in thatpardox dial app
L114[18:15:38]
<Forecaster> maybe learn how to make a
basic program first
L115[18:16:07]
<lukasz4444> >Forecaster: maybe learn
how to make a basic program first
L116[18:16:08]
<lukasz4444> i know that but i wanna do
something more advenced and there is not tutorials in web for
that.
L117[18:18:20]
<RedstoneParkour> yes we know and a gui
pretty much overcomplicates things
L118[18:23:59]
<RedstoneParkour> also because of the time
it takes you will have to use networking to allow multiple
computers to work together and have *a lot* of stargates
L119[18:25:06]
<Forecaster> %tonk
L120[18:25:07] <MichiBot> Aw jeez!
Forecaster! You beat RedstoneParkour's previous record of <0
(By 3 hours, 18 minutes and 23 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L121[18:25:08] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 3 hours, 18 minutes and 23 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00331 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need
0.37264 more points to pass Vaur!
L122[18:25:42]
<RedstoneParkour> how many? if you want to
wardial all addresses within one week, you need 6479 computers and
stargates
L123[18:26:15]
<RedstoneParkour> yes im serious
L124[18:26:28]
<RedstoneParkour> and thats only for 7
chevron addresses
L125[18:28:02]
<lukasz4444> no. it could just rember what
point it ended and svae it ino file reboot the pc read from file
and continue searching
L126[18:28:30]
<RedstoneParkour> then it still takes 6479
to wardial *all* addresses within one week
L127[18:29:46]
<RedstoneParkour> so you pretty much have
to have literally creative amounts of resources to wardial
L128[18:32:19]
<lukasz4444> but is just one program that
does that exist?
L129[18:32:53]
<RedstoneParkour> no + would probably be a
'master' and 'slave' program
L130[18:33:50]
<lukasz4444> they didn't make that
program?
L132[18:35:40]
<RedstoneParkour> they didnt make any
program
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L134[18:41:32]
<RedstoneParkour> if you want to make a
wardialing program though, you should make 2 programs, where one
does the actual dialing (slave) and the other tells the slave
computers to start wardialing and from where to where by using the
OC network card (master)
L135[18:42:50]
<Z0idberg>
Don't all ic computers run on the same thread?
L136[18:42:55]
<Z0idberg>
Oc*
L137[18:43:02]
<RedstoneParkour> i think its by default 4
threads
L138[18:43:08]
<RedstoneParkour> but all dial calls are
normal calls
L139[18:43:11]
<RedstoneParkour> so they take one
tick
L140[18:43:25]
<RedstoneParkour> and execute in one
thread...
L141[18:43:29]
<Z0idberg>
Yeah makes sense
L142[18:43:44]
<Z0idberg>
So it converges anyways
L143[18:44:23]
<RedstoneParkour> yes but i assume that
dialing 6479 times a tick takes less time than an actual tick (25
ms)
L144[18:44:37]
<RedstoneParkour> which makes it
worthwhile to use so many computers
L145[18:44:51]
<RedstoneParkour> i might be very wrong
with that assumtion tho
L146[18:45:05]
<Z0idberg>
One way to find out
L147[18:45:20]
<RedstoneParkour> build 6479 computers and
stargates
L148[18:45:27]
<Z0idberg>
Haha
L149[18:45:43]
<Z0idberg>
Use trotwood, if I was even nearly finished with it
L150[18:45:53]
<Z0idberg>
It'd be perfect for that
L151[18:45:58]
<RedstoneParkour> of course not, its
'force about 100 robots to build those 6479 computers and
stargates'
L152[18:46:19]
<Z0idberg>
Trotwood allows up to 4096 computers per cluster
L153[18:46:28]
<RedstoneParkour> what is trotwood?
L154[18:47:59]
<Z0idberg>
It's a operating system I work on seldomly when I have actual time
for OC that distributes itself across multiple computers in order
to overcome multiple obstacles such as component limits.
L155[18:48:27]
<RedstoneParkour> kind of interested how
it works
L156[18:48:53]
<Z0idberg>
You could for example, build an entire railroad system with a
computer at every station and junction and when you write programs
on it you write them for the entire cluster as if it were one
computer
L157[18:49:00]
<RedstoneParkour> o
L158[18:49:15]
<Z0idberg>
Like building a hive
L159[18:49:28]
<RedstoneParkour> so basically, it allows
seamless remote component access?
L160[18:49:55]
<Z0idberg>
Yep
L161[18:50:38]
<RedstoneParkour> huh, im working on an os
myself (also seldomly) that has very swappable driver support (in
the works tho)
L162[18:51:02]
<RedstoneParkour> meaning i can very
easily implement that myself too
L163[18:52:47]
<Z0idberg>
My design followsa lot of the concepts used in erlang
L164[18:53:04]
<Z0idberg>
So it's all about writing actors that use ipc to send
messages
L165[18:54:07]
<Z0idberg>
And the system has no filesystem router (no vfs) like Linux does.
It uses something called a resource manager that uses resource
mapping devices in order to map resource URLs into process
ids
L166[18:54:38]
<Z0idberg>
This includes filesystem stuff as well. But can be network or
anything
L167[18:55:15]
<RedstoneParkour> i think i saw something
about that earlier where you use `component://foo` to access a
component
L168[18:57:05]
<Z0idberg>
Yes.
L170[18:57:22]
<Z0idberg>
That's also valid
L171[18:57:24]
<lukasz4444> can you give me quick
tutorial of making multi page gui?
L172[18:57:44]
<Z0idberg>
Why focus on gui?
L173[18:58:13]
<Z0idberg>
I absolutely despise gui for anything except something virtual like
3D CAD where is makes sense
L174[18:59:55]
<Z0idberg>
You know on my desktop computer
L175[18:59:57]
<lukasz4444> >Z0idberg: I absolutely
despise gui for anything except something virtual like 3D CAD
wh…
L177[19:01:08]
<Z0idberg>
I use the gui only to manage a heck ton of terminals to docli stuff
all day at home and work
L178[19:01:10]
<Forecaster> if you don't know how to
write a program without a gui you're going to have an even harder
time writing one with a gui
L179[19:01:27]
<RedstoneParkour> i would probably use gui
when i have to display multiple things at once
L180[19:01:48]
<lukasz4444> but how to make gui with
multiple pages with oc
L181[19:18:57]
<lukasz4444> @Forecaster you tell me so
how to make it?
L182[19:19:39]
<Forecaster> use gpu to draw things on
screen
L183[19:20:47]
<lukasz4444> but that dosen't make click
able buttons
L184[19:20:56]
<lukasz4444> nad multiple pages of
buttons
L185[19:21:19]
<Forecaster> not on it's own no
L186[19:21:27]
<Forecaster> but you'll have to figure
those parts out yourself
L187[20:00:53]
<Bob> the
fact that something is a button is just the system reacting to you
clicking on the image of a button and giving feedback
L188[20:01:04]
<Bob>
otherwise we're just all monkeys starting on changing color pixels
on a screen
L189[20:01:17]
<Z0idberg>
Guis are dumb
L190[20:01:57]
<Bob> CLI
rules the world
L191[20:02:13]
<Z0idberg>
Like I said at work and home I use a gui of clis ahahaha
L192[20:02:25]
<Z0idberg>
Terminals all over the place
L193[20:02:47]
<Bob> i
have way too many xfce4 terminal instances with pretty transparency
effets
L194[20:03:07]
<Z0idberg>
I have been using a combination of cool retro term and urxvt
L196[20:03:24]
<Z0idberg>
Here's me playing dwarf fortress
L198[20:03:39]
<Z0idberg>
And assassin
L199[20:03:43]
<Z0idberg>
Again*
L200[20:04:04]
<Bob> we
should be able to make a CLI OC virtual simulator akin to Ocelot
but within a CLI
L201[20:04:23]
<Z0idberg>
Never heard of ocelot
L202[20:04:31]
<Z0idberg>
How does it compare to ocvm?
L203[20:04:36]
<Bob> well
its more of a visual editor
L204[20:04:41]
<Z0idberg>
Oh
L205[20:04:44]
<Bob> you
can see the connections and all within a GUI
L206[20:04:48]
<Bob> i've
wanted to do that for a while
L207[20:04:55]
<Bob> i
have a concurent node editor lying somewhere in JavaFX
L208[20:05:02]
<Bob> god i
fucking despise Java and JavaFX
L209[20:05:03]
<Z0idberg>
At one point I wanted to make something like oc then payonel
did
L210[20:05:21]
<Bob> why
must've i been born when all the cool shit gets made before my
eyes
L211[20:05:32]
<Z0idberg>
I wonder if payonel ever merged my pill request I made to implement
freebsd to support for ocvm
L212[20:05:41]
<Z0idberg>
Pull request*
L213[20:06:21]
<Z0idberg>
Make something like ocvm I mean
L214[20:06:45]
<Bob> i
mean its never too late
L215[20:06:56]
<Bob> i've
been wanting to reimplement the Lua VM in Rust then make an OC
emu
L216[20:07:14]
<Bob> but
god my time management and the stuff thats happening around me just
makes me do nothing 24/24
L218[20:07:50]
<Z0idberg>
Nope
L219[20:07:55]
<Z0idberg>
Not merged yet lol
L220[20:09:21]
<Bob> my
CubicChunks fix never got merged either and Asie went ahead and
just added it in his OC 1.7.6 PR anyways lol
L221[20:09:28]
<Bob> i
should revisit my OC fork again
L222[20:09:41]
<Z0idberg>
Lol
L223[20:09:45]
<Bob>
decouple item tiers from item capabilities then make an addon where
i add a CubicChunks infinite flight upgrade
L224[20:09:47]
<Bob> fuck
forge gradle
L225[20:09:55]
<Bob> but
Asie did the thing and make OC work with the latest so
L226[20:09:58]
<Bob> i
dont have to suffer
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<Z0idberg>
Has anyone worked in the fabric oc fork someone was working
on?
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<Z0idberg>
Lately
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<Z0idberg>
I've been thinking about finishing trotwood for the idea to embed
it into my little wireless SoC mod thing I started writing in
fabric
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<Z0idberg>
Trotwood has a compatibility layer which I originally intended for
computer craft
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<Z0idberg>
The way it receives events is abstracted
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<Bob> i
dont think any progress besides on OC2 has been made
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<Bob> Asie
did start a week ago working on pushing OC 1.7.6
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<Bob> then
i think ill take the inertia and do what i wanted for a while
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<Bob> at
least i hope, i'm so god damn tired its fucking crazy
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<Forecaster> %tonkout
L238[22:39:43] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 18
minutes and 23 seconds (By 56 minutes and 12 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L239[22:39:44] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points!
plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
2.18413625, Position #2 Need 0.36264 more points to pass
Vaur!
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<Wattana>
>Ocawesome101: I play on bright
L241[23:33:31]
<Wattana> I
play at half brightness
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<Ocawesome101> that's a reasonable
medium
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