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L1[00:09:55] <PHO​BOSS> Hi, I need some help. I want my program to do something before it gets terminated by Ctrl+C. How do I go about this? I can't seem to find an event signal for it.
L2[00:58:23] <dequbed> Amanda: nice. I'm surprised that worked in the first place :D
L3[01:08:48] <Amanda> dequbed: which part? KEeping the symbols or running zig on OC2?
L4[01:09:32] <dequbed> Linking a binary with those symbols. We're some years past linkers not handling function names over 7 characters, yes. But that *is* excessive.
L5[01:09:59] <Amanda> I don't even remember what I was reasearching when I stumbled upon "readelf --only-debug-symbols" but it gave me the idea to keep a seperate version of the same binary around, still clothed
L6[01:10:22] <dequbed> I mean you can just split out the debug symbols into a separate file
L7[01:10:45] <dequbed> But tbh not like that'll make that file that much smaller given that size of symbol
L8[01:11:05] <Amanda> I wasn't aware of any way to do that than with "strip"
L9[01:11:15] <Amanda> ( not readelf, my memory did a heccen prank )
L10[01:11:16] <dequbed> @sapphicfettucine also unrelated but kick your matrix client please :P
L11[01:11:43] <sapphicf​ettucine> urgh is element being a fuck again
L12[01:12:09] <sapphicf​ettucine> yes. yes it is and breaking push notifs >.>
L13[01:12:11] <dequbed> Amanda: It's not usually done in the linux space, macOS tooling defaults to split symbols, i.e. having two files: One being the actual binary, and a different one containing *only* the debug symbols
L14[01:12:36] <Amanda> dequbed: considering zig, atm, is llvm based, I wonder if that can be finegaled into working
L15[01:12:56] <dequbed> Hmm very likely
L16[01:13:29] <Amanda> This is what I do at the moment: https://git.camnet.site/amandac/oc2-zig-fuckery/src/branch/main/strip-debug.sh
L17[01:13:43] <Amanda> then I send the foo and run GDB against foo.dbg
L18[01:14:32] <dequbed> I haven't checked in a while how much the compiler has to do for that
L19[01:14:38] <dequbed> But it should be possible with zig
L20[01:16:26] <Amanda> ... I guess OC2 machines _do_ do an ambiant fan noise, I I thought I was going crazy for a second
L21[01:17:19] <Amanda> And it's not effected by the ambience volume slider! For shame @Sangar. :P
L22[01:18:08] <Amanda> %choose comfort or utility
L23[01:18:08] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Is it a bird?! Is it a plane?! No! It's "utility"!
L24[01:18:26] <Amanda> Not sure I want to deal with _anything_ that could be mistaken for both a bird and a plane, comfort it is
L25[01:18:34] <Amanda> not after the hell travel I did a couple weeks ago
L26[01:19:18] <dequbed> Amanda: Snagar really took the Apple approach this time. None of the settings actually work because fuck you our product is perfect the way you receive it you don't get to configure it.
L27[01:19:22] <dequbed> :P
L28[01:19:30] <Amanda> :P
L29[01:19:37] <dequbed> Fun fact
L30[01:19:44] <dequbed> The mod settings don't work
L31[01:19:53] <dequbed> Like they just … don't read from file
L32[01:19:57] <dequbed> and I have no idea why
L33[01:20:12] <Amanda> Forge problem since 1.18 wasn't stable yet?
L34[01:20:18] <dequbed> Very likely
L35[01:20:23] <Amanda> or does it persist in newer forge
L36[01:20:35] <Amanda> I think they finally went 1.0 for 1.18
L37[01:20:36] <dequbed> Haven't tried since uh a month or two
L38[01:20:55] <dequbed> We figured that out while trying to figure out why VXLAN didn't work.
L39[01:21:05] <dequbed> Turns out the values weren't read from the config :P
L40[01:21:13] <dequbed> because *nothing* was read from config
L41[01:25:57] <Amanda> Hey Elfi, why does my brain think it's tuesday? I spent most of today knowing it was monday.
L42[01:26:06] <Amanda> did someone set me to UTC again
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L46[02:21:46] <Amanda> dequbed: Are you my (dungeon) mummy? https://shitmyplayerssay.com/post/680600678145589248/we-have-a-quotes-channel-in-our-discord-for
L47[02:22:08] <dequbed> .... uhm.
L48[02:22:19] <dequbed> I'm not a mummy :P
L49[02:22:25] <dequbed> But I can be you mommy if you need one :)
L50[02:33:41] <Amanda> :p
L51[02:34:50] * Amanda curls up around elfi on dequbed's lap, does a heccen zzzmew, dreams more about a system apocalypse and the logistics of making sure the colour blue can be moved to the frontlines
L52[02:37:07] <Amanda> Also, you shouldn't combine the "system apocalypse" plotline with the "it was a simulation the whole time, that's why the female character kept flashing her tatas" plotline, it just leads to a twisted up dreamscape
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L55[03:07:25] <Michiyo> %tonkout
L56[03:07:25] <MichiBot> Wut! Mic​hiyo! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 23 minutes and 32 seconds (By 41 minutes and 25 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L57[03:07:26] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.82076, Position #3 Need 0.03661568 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L61[04:20:53] <1e1​001> what even is the tonk?
L62[04:22:41] <Michiyo> %tonk is love
L63[04:22:42] <MichiBot> Willikers! Mic​hiyo! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 15 minutes and 16 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L64[04:22:43] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 1 hour, 15 minutes and 16 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00125)
L65[04:22:45] <Michiyo> tonk is life.
L66[04:56:05] <The P​atmann> Tonk is the game of patiently waiting for a timer to tick down, just to be <0 seconds too early.
L67[06:07:01] <Hawk777> Is it not possible to craft an OC2 computer, or is JEI just broken and I can’t find the recipe in the handbook?
L68[06:40:53] <Hawk777> Looks like it’s just JEI messing with me.
L69[06:40:58] <Hawk777> The recipe in the source code works.
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L71[07:26:29] <Ar​iri> >dequbed: But I can be you mommy if you need one :)
L72[07:26:29] <Ar​iri> hehe
L73[07:49:34] <Va​ur> %tonk
L74[07:49:36] <MichiBot> Darn! Va​ur! You beat Mic​hiyo's previous record of 1 hour, 15 minutes and 16 seconds (By 2 hours, 11 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L75[07:49:37] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 3 hours, 26 minutes and 52 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00438 (0.00219 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L78[09:15:21] <dequbed> @Ariri do you need me to be your mommy too? :p
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L80[10:19:00] <Va​ur> %sip
L81[10:19:01] <MichiBot> You drink a shimmering pearlpeas potion (New!). Vaur knows the exact location of a particular molecule of oxygen until they have some bacon.
L82[10:32:56] <Forec​aster> >1e1001: what even is the tonk?
L83[10:32:56] <Forec​aster> %tonkleaders
L84[10:32:57] <MichiBot> https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L85[10:33:07] <Forec​aster> The rules are there
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L88[11:37:58] <Amanda> Or are they? I may have translocated them in time for the lulz
L89[11:38:32] <Amanda> For instance, it may or may not mentuion the new rule that you must be doing a headstand while you tonk.
L90[11:38:35] <Amanda> MichiBot will know
L91[11:40:30] <dequbed> %tonk 3F9BC
L92[11:40:30] <MichiBot> Wild! deq​ubed! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 3 hours, 26 minutes and 52 seconds (By 24 minutes and 2 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L93[11:40:31] <MichiBot> dequbed's new record is 3 hours, 50 minutes and 55 seconds! dequbed also gained 0.0016 (0.0004 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #12. (Overtook null) Need 0.00092 more points to pass n​il!
L94[11:55:09] <Amanda> Ohno, dequbedbeen infected with the tonk
L95[11:56:43] <dequbed> Ah no, I just like to be on the leaderboard so I can annoy people without having to lookup the current code :P
L96[11:57:16] <Amanda> Haha
L97[12:00:33] <Z0id​berg> coffee makers are weird
L98[12:01:04] <Z0id​berg> There are so many doors and things that can be accidently forgotten. You can forget to put water in it, you can forget to shut the coffee grounds in it..
L99[12:01:05] <Amanda> I agree, soda's much better than waiting for coffee to be made
L100[12:01:08] <Z0id​berg> you can do both
L101[12:01:33] <Z0id​berg> I actually drink very little soda anymore
L102[12:01:46] <Z0id​berg> Not because I wanted to but I just don't drink a lot of soda like I used to
L103[12:01:49] <Amanda> I continue to drink mostly soda
L104[12:02:25] <Z0id​berg> I think I noticed that if I had an entire bottle of soda the taste would start rolling off
L105[12:02:52] <Z0id​berg> I love carbonated drinks though
L106[12:13:24] <dequbed> @Z0idberg get yourself a lower-tech coffee maker :P
L107[12:14:24] <Amanda> ugg break little-black-rocks with big rock! Ugg dump both in river!
L108[12:14:50] <Amanda> ugg drink river!
L109[12:15:47] <dequbed> Uh I mean... yeah
L110[12:16:17] <dequbed> Dump the black rock into a vessel you put onto hot sand instead and you have turkish mocca
L111[12:17:21] <Amanda> :P
L112[12:17:37] <dequbed> I try not to be too elitistic about coffee but I have yet to find a coffee machine that made as tasty coffee as can be made with much, *much* simpler tools.
L113[12:17:38] <Z0id​berg> it is semi low tech
L114[12:17:46] <Z0id​berg> it's just an old mr coffee from maybe 2005
L115[12:18:08] <dequbed> Amanda: Oh also! If you put it in a bown instead of a river and let it sit for a night or 3 you have cold brew which is an *excellent* coffee base.
L116[12:18:12] <Z0id​berg> It's not like my grandmother's kettle with instant coffee lol
L117[12:18:38] <Z0id​berg> My problem is that I will forget to put water in it
L118[12:18:43] <Z0id​berg> or I will put water in it forget to shut the door
L119[12:18:56] <Z0id​berg> and there will be water EVERYWHERE because the thing has absolutely no safety mechanisms
L120[12:19:13] <Z0id​berg> so it's more of a me problem
L121[12:19:32] <dequbed> @Z0idberg the … disconnect is real. When I say low tech I mean like a stovetop espresso maker. Or make turkish mocca which needs exactly one copper pot.
L122[12:19:48] <dequbed> No doors, no *mechanism* in the first place.
L123[12:19:52] <Z0id​berg> sometimes I will forget to put coffee in it at all and be like why is my kettle full of water?!
L124[12:20:00] <Z0id​berg> heh
L125[12:20:26] <Z0id​berg> I have a steel kettle... but I don't use it for drinking.. it's starting to soften
L126[12:20:33] <dequbed> Also Espresso makers have this positive side effect that setting them up is a ritual that you can get in the habit of easily and that'll mean you'll forget steps much rarer.
L127[12:20:53] <Z0id​berg> :>
L128[12:21:08] <Amanda> Ritual to the coffee goddess
L129[12:21:31] <Z0id​berg> cat incoming
L130[12:21:42] <Z0id​berg> oh nvm he went the other way. I expected a keyboard assault
L131[12:22:00] <dequbed> Ritual to the goddess of the black liquid that gives us life, of the holy bean that keeps us alive
L132[12:22:01] <Amanda> You ruined his plans by noticing him, now he has to try another approch vector
L133[12:22:32] * Amanda doesn't drink coffee, too bitter and she's not the patience to learn what sub-ritual she needs to make it palpable
L134[12:25:33] <dequbed> And having other people do it is expensive, yes :P
L135[13:38:34] <Amanda> ... What. "Fixed a crash related to modded trains that could change travel direction due to air friction computation. (https://forums.factorio.com/101320)"
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L137[14:25:43] <Z0id​berg> >Amanda: ... What. "Fixed a crash related to modded trains that could change travel …
L138[14:25:43] <Z0id​berg> That's great.
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L140[14:26:18] <Z0id​berg> I can't imagine that air friction would ever be a consideration with trains
L141[14:26:24] <Z0id​berg> the trains here aere over 2 miles long..
L142[14:26:46] <Z0id​berg> if that train is moving there is no way it would ever be considerable
L143[15:03:47] <Amanda> I mean. in asia you know they have bullettrains that go really fast? You just don't see them in the US because the rail infrastructure in the US has degraded to garbage
L144[15:11:08] <M​GR> >Z0idberg: I can't imagine that air friction would ever be a consideration with t…
L145[15:11:09] <M​GR> Air friction is precisely why the concept of a vacuum train exists
L146[15:21:44] <Michiyo> %tonk
L147[15:21:44] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Michiyo, you were not able to beat dequbed's record of 3 hours, 50 minutes and 55 seconds this time. 3 hours, 41 minutes and 14 seconds were wasted! Missed by 9 minutes and 41 seconds!
L148[15:21:53] <Michiyo> ffs
L149[15:22:56] <Michiyo> Oh damn it... my highlight script missed dequbed's tonk for some reason
L150[15:34:54] <Amanda> %calc 15 * 0.75
L151[15:34:54] <MichiBot> 15 * 0.75 => 11.25
L152[16:40:13] <Forec​aster> Amanda: soda for the win
L153[17:10:10] <San​gar> >Amanda: And it's not effected by the ambience volume slider! For shame <@96665277…
L154[17:10:10] <San​gar> I think I just put them in the same category as it was in OC1? Which was blocks? But if there's an ambient one, that sounds like it'd make a lot more sense, yeah 😛
L155[17:10:22] <Amanda> :P
L156[17:11:01] <Amanda> I think ambiance got it's own slider post-1.7 so it makes sense OC1 never converted
L157[17:31:22] <dequbed> Michiyo: sorry <3
L158[17:55:27] <Forec​aster> %sip
L159[17:55:28] <MichiBot> You drink a fragrant tuna potion (New!). A tiny genie appears, gives Forecaster a thumbs up, and poofs away.
L160[18:10:50] <Amanda> %choose rebuild entire train network for space?
L161[18:10:50] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Why would you do that when you could do something else instead?
L162[18:24:34] <Forec​aster> It does sound like a lot of work
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L164[18:42:06] <decafmiquel> hi
L165[18:42:13] <B​ob> 👋
L166[18:42:58] <decafmiquel> is there any possibilitie to make private chats or something like that?
L167[18:43:29] <decafmiquel> im doing a test with my friends
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L170[18:44:34] <B​ob> well you can always either host your own IRC server if you wanna use IRC, or just make a ingame chat client with an ingame computer network
L171[18:44:38] <B​ob> with OC, the sky is the limit
L172[18:45:01] <B​ob> shouldn't be too hard to make some kind of rudimentary remote network and chat app, either P2P or centralized
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L175[18:45:41] <decafmiquel> ok,thanks
L176[18:54:49] <Forec​aster> Just join an unused irc channel
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L179[19:00:24] <Forec​aster> steam what are you doing
L180[19:00:27] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y8wrd3m5
L181[19:00:39] <Forec​aster> every time I start steam these two games are "updated"
L182[19:01:19] <Forec​aster> they're already completed when I open the downloads screen, the timestamp is always "today current:time"
L183[19:01:35] <Forec​aster> it's always these two games
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L187[19:53:31] <Michiyo> %tonk
L188[19:53:31] <MichiBot> Dogast! Mic​hiyo! You beat deq​ubed's previous record of 3 hours, 50 minutes and 55 seconds (By 40 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L189[19:53:32] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 4 hours, 31 minutes and 46 seconds! Michiyo also gained 0.00272 (0.00068 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.03389568 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L192[21:50:13] <Forec​aster> %sip
L193[21:50:14] <MichiBot> You drink a thick toxictop potion (New!). Forecaster: Nothing seemed to happen...
L194[21:50:19] <Forec​aster> Aw
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L196[22:05:19] <Michiyo> %sip
L197[22:05:19] <MichiBot> You drink a shining purple potion (New!). 2 nearby pebbles suddenly shift slightly in Michiyo's direction.
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L200[23:58:07] <Amanda> %choose halucinate & rainbox; before or after
L201[23:58:07] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: after halucinate & rainbox
L202[23:58:23] <Amanda> hrm, I could have sworn that'd work
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