L1[00:00:32] <Amanda> I do a memset to zero
it out, trying with that commented out, see what burns
L2[00:01:05] 
<sapphicfettucine> i mean, if you're
reading over it and slicing only the part that was read
<sapphicfettucine> i mean, if you're
reading over it and slicing only the part that was readL3[00:01:19] <sapphicfettucine> you shouldn't have to
zero it, right?
<sapphicfettucine> you shouldn't have to
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L5[00:02:52] <Amanda> about the same either
way, it seems. Makes sense, I'm pretty sure most ISAs have an
instruction to zero out some given memory, so it can be optimised
pretty well
L6[00:03:21] <Amanda> ( or some way to abuse
an instruction to do that )
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L9[00:11:06] <sapphicfettucine> i guess so, yea
<sapphicfettucine> i guess so, yeaL10[00:11:38] <Bob> mind
passing the compiled importer please ? i'm kinda tired of the wait
times with the lua one, altough i doubt ill do much progress today
lol
<Bob> mind
passing the compiled importer please ? i'm kinda tired of the wait
times with the lua one, altough i doubt ill do much progress today
lolL11[00:11:49] <Bob> i'm
still deciding if going `no_std` is worth it
<Bob> i'm
still deciding if going `no_std` is worth itL12[00:12:39] <sapphicfettucine> gimme a sec
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ty
<Bob> nice,
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L18[00:14:42] <Bob> 82kb
not bad
<Bob> 82kb
not badL19[00:14:45] <Bob> serde
alone is 80kb
<Bob> serde
alone is 80kbL20[00:15:06] <sapphicfettucine> panicimmediateabort +
miniserde
<sapphicfettucine> panicimmediateabort +
miniserdeL21[00:15:19] <Bob> i
always used panic abort and nightly strip
<Bob> i
always used panic abort and nightly stripL22[00:15:21] <sapphicfettucine> (+ opt-level s and
lto)
<sapphicfettucine> (+ opt-level s and
lto)L23[00:15:23] <sapphicfettucine> (+ opt-level s and lto)
[Edited]
<sapphicfettucine> (+ opt-level s and lto)
[Edited]L24[00:15:25] <Bob>
miniserde does wonders tho
<Bob>
miniserde does wonders thoL25[00:15:34] <sapphicfettucine> (and riscv64 objcopy
for stripping)
<sapphicfettucine> (and riscv64 objcopy
for stripping)L26[00:15:45] <Bob> 🤔
should try that
<Bob> 🤔
should try thatL27[00:15:57] <Bob> i
have `strip` as part of the `.toml`
<Bob> i
have `strip` as part of the `.toml`L28[00:16:01] <sapphicfettucine> it's basically the same
as a strip command
<sapphicfettucine> it's basically the same
as a strip commandL29[00:16:52] <Bob> we
need a riscv64 upx
<Bob> we
need a riscv64 upxL30[00:18:30] ⇨
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L31[00:49:41] <Amanda> @sapphicfettucine
Behold! Generic meta_struct deserialistion https://git.camnet.site/gitweb/?p=amandac/mc/oc2/cxx-fuckery.git;a=blob;f=Makefile;h=068f77fb8e646b47fce9aa8e05e7a2501720a271;hb=HEAD#l8
-- lets the beginImportFile output get defined like this: https://git.camnet.site/gitweb/?p=amandac/mc/oc2/cxx-fuckery.git;a=blob;f=Makefile;h=068f77fb8e646b47fce9aa8e05e7a2501720a271;hb=HEAD#l8
L32[00:51:11] <sapphicfettucine> oh, hell yea
<sapphicfettucine> oh, hell yeaL33[00:51:59] <sapphicfettucine> in this house we love
and appreciate generics
<sapphicfettucine> in this house we love
and appreciate genericsL34[00:53:06] <Amanda> Had to decide to
keep the CMake/Clang toolchain to let me do that though, gcc is
super unhappy with the fixed_string class it uses
L35[00:53:16] <sapphicfettucine> wack
<sapphicfettucine> wackL36[00:53:23] <Amanda> There's a bug about
it, but it;s not had any traction since 2020
L37[00:53:58] <sapphicfettucine> gah
<sapphicfettucine> gahL38[00:54:07] ⇨
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L40[00:57:50] <Amanda> Though I didn't
really try a newer gcc. Might see if it works with a newer gcc
since I'm using an external build chain now anyway
L41[01:23:51] <CompanionCube> Bob: upx is
opensource, go port it :p
L42[01:24:38] <CompanionCube> although
apparently the OSS version uses a different compression method,
huh
L43[01:46:20] <Michiyo> %tonkout
L44[01:46:20] <MichiBot> Holy red rock
Batman! Michiyo! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 48
minutes and 46 seconds (By 30 minutes and 33 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L45[01:46:21] <MichiBot> Michiyo has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points!
plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.37055, Position #3 => #2 (Overtook Forecaster) Need 0.14501432
more points to pass Vaur!
L46[01:46:25] <Michiyo> woo!
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L48[02:07:17] <Amanda> %choose laptop nap
time?
L49[02:07:17] <MichiBot> Amanda:
"laptop nap time" doesn't really seem like a good idea
right now.
L50[02:07:58] <Amanda> So now that X_TIME
has passed, it makes sense
L51[02:08:23] *
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L52[02:16:10] <sapphicfettucine> hmm, java int size is
32bit right?
<sapphicfettucine> hmm, java int size is
32bit right?L53[02:16:34] <CompanionCube> think
so?
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L55[02:31:03] <Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: hmm, java int size is 32bit right?
<Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: hmm, java int size is 32bit right?L56[02:31:04] <Bob>
yes
<Bob>
yesL57[02:31:10] <Bob> and
long is `i64`
<Bob> and
long is `i64`L58[02:40:21] <Izaya> does anyone have any
idea how to fix firefox downloading images when you drop them into
a terminal? this is really fuckin annoying https://shadowkat.net/tmp/9dee.png
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L60[02:56:59] <Bob> for
HLAPI, i was thinking about generating Rust impls from the
`:methods` JSON
<Bob> for
HLAPI, i was thinking about generating Rust impls from the
`:methods` JSONL61[02:57:19] <sapphicfettucine> i've thought about
it
<sapphicfettucine> i've thought about
itL62[02:57:25] <sapphicfettucine> decided against it for
code clarity
<sapphicfettucine> decided against it for
code clarityL63[02:57:27] <Bob>
trought `build.rs`
<Bob>
trought `build.rs`L64[02:57:31] <Bob> well
fair enough
<Bob> well
fair enoughL65[02:57:47] <Bob> i
just suck with `syn` and `proc2`, maybe should throw more time at
it
<Bob> i
just suck with `syn` and `proc2`, maybe should throw more time at
itL66[02:57:51] <Bob> given
i have 15mins a day at most
<Bob> given
i have 15mins a day at mostL67[03:04:37] <lunar_sam> lmao
L68[03:04:48] <lunar_sam> i should
just
L69[03:04:53] <lunar_sam> hurry up and get
TN impls done
L70[03:05:01] <lunar_sam> i could put them
on a resume as
L71[03:05:03] <lunar_sam> a sorta
L72[03:05:05] <lunar_sam> "i did
this"
L73[03:05:06] <lunar_sam> thing
L74[03:05:29] <Bob> i
should hurry too but damn wtf
<Bob> i
should hurry too but damn wtfL75[03:06:05] <Bob> my
sleep schedule is a better source for randomness than a CSRNG
<Bob> my
sleep schedule is a better source for randomness than a CSRNGL76[03:15:06] <Amanda> %remindme 10h look
more seriously at devdocs.io
L77[03:15:06] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"look more seriously at devdocs.io" in 10h at 02/17/2022
01:15:06 PM
L78[03:15:23] *
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L79[03:15:29] <Amanda> Night nerds
L80[03:28:14] <Bob> one
thing i always wanted to do is procedural parsing without using a
String buffer
<Bob> one
thing i always wanted to do is procedural parsing without using a
String bufferL81[03:31:26] <Bob> it
should be easy enough to mitigate truncated tokens by shifting back
the array and pushing to the subslice, damn are Rust slicse a
fucking godsend
<Bob> it
should be easy enough to mitigate truncated tokens by shifting back
the array and pushing to the subslice, damn are Rust slicse a
fucking godsendL82[03:34:52] <Bob> serde
does seem to be generic over `Read` but i doubt that that's the
case for `miniserde`
<Bob> serde
does seem to be generic over `Read` but i doubt that that's the
case for `miniserde`L83[03:46:26] <Bob> i
mean, if we're insisting on using miniserde which is really just
json
<Bob> i
mean, if we're insisting on using miniserde which is really just
jsonL84[03:46:27] <Bob> might
write a specialized json parser
<Bob> might
write a specialized json parserL85[03:46:34] <sapphicfettucine> it handles strs
only
<sapphicfettucine> it handles strs
onlyL86[03:46:37] <Bob>
yep
<Bob>
yepL87[03:46:54] <Bob> could
use an array backed deque
<Bob> could
use an array backed dequeL88[03:47:25] <sapphicfettucine> i'm using a centralized
[u8; 1024]
<sapphicfettucine> i'm using a centralized
[u8; 1024]L89[03:47:36] <sapphicfettucine> and a centralized
string buffer
<sapphicfettucine> and a centralized
string bufferL90[03:47:39] <Bob>
yeah
<Bob>
yeahL91[03:47:40] <sapphicfettucine> so that it only
allocates once
<sapphicfettucine> so that it only
allocates onceL92[03:48:14] <sapphicfettucine> like, imo
<sapphicfettucine> like, imoL93[03:48:23] <Bob> i
knows its fine
<Bob> i
knows its fineL94[03:48:25] <sapphicfettucine> if you make sure it has
enough capacity that it doesn't reallocate
<sapphicfettucine> if you make sure it has
enough capacity that it doesn't reallocateL95[03:48:26] <Bob> but i
like going overkill
<Bob> but i
like going overkillL96[03:48:42] <sapphicfettucine> fair :p
<sapphicfettucine> fair :pL97[03:48:59] <sapphicfettucine> i have a proc-macro
that pre-serializes messages, i can't judge
<sapphicfettucine> i have a proc-macro
that pre-serializes messages, i can't judgeL98[03:49:15] <Bob> for
write, it should be easy enough
<Bob> for
write, it should be easy enoughL99[03:49:27] <sapphicfettucine> preserialization?
<sapphicfettucine> preserialization?L100[03:49:29] <sapphicfettucine> or
<sapphicfettucine> orL101[03:50:08] <Bob> for
writting i dont have any fail proof plans
<Bob> for
writting i dont have any fail proof plansL102[03:50:21] <Bob> as
the value might not have enough space to get serialized in the
buffer
<Bob> as
the value might not have enough space to get serialized in the
bufferL103[03:50:33] <Bob> for
reads, you can just shift the buffer back, continue the read, then
resume the seralization
<Bob> for
reads, you can just shift the buffer back, continue the read, then
resume the seralizationL104[03:52:52] <Bob> i
think i can get away with the procedural parser instance storing a
&mut slice ref
<Bob> i
think i can get away with the procedural parser instance storing a
&mut slice refL105[03:53:02] <Bob>
instead of enforcing an array
<Bob>
instead of enforcing an arrayL106[03:56:39] <Bob>
altough, this would imply i know the message structure before hand
and its static enough
<Bob>
altough, this would imply i know the message structure before hand
and its static enoughL107[03:57:11] <Bob> gotta
see how serde handles it again
<Bob> gotta
see how serde handles it againL108[03:57:20] <Bob> as
miniserde takes the dynamical approach with a stack
<Bob> as
miniserde takes the dynamical approach with a stackL109[03:57:29] <sapphicfettucine> i've used the we know
how the message is structured trick to optimize zero-argument
calls
<sapphicfettucine> i've used the we know
how the message is structured trick to optimize zero-argument
callsL110[03:58:00] <sapphicfettucine> as for responses, you
could probably get away with doing for a lot of types?
<sapphicfettucine> as for responses, you
could probably get away with doing for a lot of types?L111[04:00:35] <Bob> its
like 5AM and i dont know what im doing anymore
<Bob> its
like 5AM and i dont know what im doing anymoreL112[04:03:21] <Bob> i
need to peek at the macro expansion of the serde traits
<Bob> i
need to peek at the macro expansion of the serde traitsL113[04:03:31] <Bob>
prolly can do that on the playground rq
<Bob>
prolly can do that on the playground rqL114[04:09:52] <Bob> yeah
Serde is doing its things`const VARIANTS: &[&str] =
&["list", "methods",
"error"];`
<Bob> yeah
Serde is doing its things`const VARIANTS: &[&str] =
&["list", "methods",
"error"];`L115[04:10:59] <Bob> and
yeah, there's so much generated code i see why Serde adds
80kb
<Bob> and
yeah, there's so much generated code i see why Serde adds
80kbL116[04:12:41] <lunar_sam> https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/I9pOx3eDmgBrpoAGUT2Em7rxM9tHgmDEEmmhKGtb/bee.png
L117[04:14:15] <Bob> i
waas about to use pascal case with OC2's HLAPI
<Bob> i
waas about to use pascal case with OC2's HLAPIL118[04:40:18] <CompanionCube> lunar_sam:
lol
L119[04:56:27] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL120[04:56:28] <MichiBot> Bejabbers!
Forecaster! You beat Michiyo's previous record of <0 (By 3
hours, 10 minutes and 7 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L121[04:56:29] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 3 hours, 10 minutes and 7 seconds! Forecaster also gained
0.00317 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need
0.00605432 more points to pass Michiyo!
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L125[06:40:48] <CompanionCube> %inv add
nick clegg
L126[06:40:49] *
MichiBot summons 'nick clegg' and adds to her inventory. I could
get some good swings in with this.
L127[06:52:46] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
today on political lulz: libdem website has a page on their
scottish party which is approaching a year out of date, so it says
they have an extra msp and mentions a leader that's been
replaced
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L135[09:05:25] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL136[09:05:25] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Vaur,
you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 3 hours, 10
minutes and 7 seconds this time. 1 hour, 27 minutes and 17 seconds
were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 42 minutes and 50 seconds!
L137[09:06:12] <Vaur>
hu
<Vaur>
huL138[09:06:19] <Vaur> you
ok MichiBot ?
<Vaur> you
ok MichiBot ?L139[09:14:34] <Michiyo> I tried to tonk
in the wrong channel
L140[09:14:39] <Michiyo> so yeah... my
bad
L141[09:17:10] <Vaur>
oh
<Vaur>
ohL142[09:25:31]
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L144[09:53:46] <Bob>
jebaited
<Bob>
jebaitedL145[11:06:04] <Wattana>
So I'm gonna write an init system for Ocawesome's Cynosure 2 kernel
but idk what name I should give it 🤔
<Wattana>
So I'm gonna write an init system for Ocawesome's Cynosure 2 kernel
but idk what name I should give it 🤔L146[11:06:33] <Wattana>
Cynd?
<Wattana>
Cynd?L147[11:13:28] <Izaya> cystemd
L148[11:26:39] <Kristopher38> lmao
<Kristopher38> lmaoL149[13:09:47] ⇦
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L151[13:15:07] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
look more seriously at devdocs.io
L152[13:33:04] <Z0idberg>
@Wattana Cynit
<Z0idberg>
@Wattana CynitL153[13:33:26] <Z0idberg>
Or you can be like any other person and just call it
"init"
<Z0idberg>
Or you can be like any other person and just call it
"init"L154[13:34:14] <Z0idberg>
That way it makes sense, and when somebody refers to yours they
just call it Cynosure 2 init
<Z0idberg>
That way it makes sense, and when somebody refers to yours they
just call it Cynosure 2 initL155[13:43:06]
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L158[15:59:50] <Michiyo> %tonk
L159[15:59:50] <MichiBot> Yay! Michiyo!
You beat Forecaster's previous record of 3 hours, 10 minutes and 7
seconds (By 3 hours, 44 minutes and 17 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L160[15:59:51] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new
record is 6 hours, 54 minutes and 25 seconds! Michiyo also gained
0.01496 (0.00374 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#2. Need 0.13005432 more points to pass Vaur!
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L163[17:02:48] <Ocawesome101> i quite enjoy it when my
laptop charges 20% in 15 minutes when i'm not using it :)
<Ocawesome101> i quite enjoy it when my
laptop charges 20% in 15 minutes when i'm not using it :)L164[17:04:21]
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L171[17:51:21] <Amanda> @Sangar is this
code still nessary? I'm guessing it's from before the stty command
was added that sets !ECHO but I'm not sure. I commented out the
equivilent in my C++ impl and it's gotten 4-8s faster importing
large files https://github.com/fnuecke/oc2/blob/1.18-forge/src/main/scripts/lib/lua/devices.lua#L93-L100
L172[18:10:13] <CompanionCube> cystemd is
a funny name
L173[18:11:29] <Amanda> %choose comfort or
utility
L174[18:11:29] <MichiBot> Amanda: Haven't
you always gone with "comfort"? Hm, maybe not.
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L220[19:01:20] <Sangar>
>Amanda: <@96665277030203392> is this code still nessary?
I'm guessing it's from b…
<Sangar>
>Amanda: <@96665277030203392> is this code still nessary?
I'm guessing it's from b…L221[19:01:20] <Sangar>
Hmm, I think that's mainly there to ensure the host side is in a
clean, reset state. Was mostly necessary when still testing stuff.
By now it should probably be fine to just do this once in init,
yeah.
<Sangar>
Hmm, I think that's mainly there to ensure the host side is in a
clean, reset state. Was mostly necessary when still testing stuff.
By now it should probably be fine to just do this once in init,
yeah.L222[19:43:21]
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L224[20:08:22] <sapphicfettucine> hmm
<sapphicfettucine> hmmL225[20:08:27] <sapphicfettucine> is there an OC2 packet
size limit?
<sapphicfettucine> is there an OC2 packet
size limit?L226[20:08:36] <sapphicfettucine> i'm getting weird
behavior testing out some udp stuff
<sapphicfettucine> i'm getting weird
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L229[20:10:49] <ben_mkiv|afk> there was/is
an minecraft packet size limit
L230[20:11:38] <ben_mkiv|afk>
"Payload may not be larger than 32767 bytes"
L231[20:11:41] <sapphicfettucine> oh, i guess it might be
MTU
<sapphicfettucine> oh, i guess it might be
MTUL232[20:11:59] <Bob> dont
see how MC packet size would affect OC2 packet size
<Bob> dont
see how MC packet size would affect OC2 packet sizeL233[20:12:05] <Bob> as
its ran server side rite ?
<Bob> as
its ran server side rite ?L234[20:12:09] <Amanda> that's for
server<->client, I think they mean in the network devices in
OC
L235[20:12:16] <ben_mkiv|afk> oh i
see
L236[20:12:18] <Bob> yeah
this
<Bob> yeah
thisL237[20:12:20] <sapphicfettucine> yeah i'm talking about
the oc2 network interfaces
<sapphicfettucine> yeah i'm talking about
the oc2 network interfacesL238[20:12:22] <ben_mkiv|afk> is OC2 a
thing now?
L239[20:12:26] <Bob> just
like OC1 used to have a 8K network limit
<Bob> just
like OC1 used to have a 8K network limitL240[20:12:33] <ben_mkiv|afk> and wheres
the source?
L241[20:12:34] <Bob> OC2
was a think for quite a while on the CI server
<Bob> OC2
was a think for quite a while on the CI serverL242[20:12:37] <Amanda> it's very early
days, but yes
L244[20:12:49] <Bob> and
it got recently released on CurseForge so it gets lotta attention
now
<Bob> and
it got recently released on CurseForge so it gets lotta attention
nowL245[20:12:50] <ben_mkiv|afk> thanks
L246[20:12:55] <Bob> well
lotta in our relative OC community terms
<Bob> well
lotta in our relative OC community termsL247[20:13:01] <ben_mkiv|afk> oh, sangar
is working on it? :)
L248[20:13:02] <ben_mkiv|afk> neat
L249[20:14:14] <sapphicfettucine> yeah okay it's an MTU
issue
<sapphicfettucine> yeah okay it's an MTU
issueL250[20:14:34] <sapphicfettucine> guess i have to figure
out how to make this protocol even more split up
<sapphicfettucine> guess i have to figure
out how to make this protocol even more split upL251[20:14:42] <Amanda> whatchya working
on?
L252[20:15:05] <sapphicfettucine> distributed file
downloads
<sapphicfettucine> distributed file
downloadsL253[20:15:20] <sapphicfettucine> a.k.a "fake
torrents"
<sapphicfettucine> a.k.a "fake
torrents"L254[20:15:33] <Bob>
getting Tor in OC2
<Bob>
getting Tor in OC2L255[20:17:54] <sapphicfettucine> the code is truly awful
right now but i just want to get it working so i can let my brain
not hyperfocus for a bit
<sapphicfettucine> the code is truly awful
right now but i just want to get it working so i can let my brain
not hyperfocus for a bitL256[20:21:53] ⇦
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L258[20:27:47] <Bob>
running an MC server off of OC is even more plausible with
OC2
<Bob>
running an MC server off of OC is even more plausible with
OC2L259[20:29:29] <CompanionCube> the RAM
though
L260[20:29:40] <CompanionCube> java very
much likes it
L261[20:30:27] <Bob> who
said we have to use Java
<Bob> who
said we have to use JavaL262[20:30:37] <Bob> i
will only exclusively use Rust with OC2
<Bob> i
will only exclusively use Rust with OC2L263[20:30:37] <CompanionCube> true
enough
L264[20:30:40] <Bob> maybe
some Zig
<Bob> maybe
some ZigL265[20:30:44] <CompanionCube> or that
bash minecraft server
L266[20:30:47] <CompanionCube> that could
work
L267[20:30:48] <Bob> oh
no
<Bob> oh
noL268[20:30:56] <Bob> why
does the Projector block spawn so much particles when
destroyed
<Bob> why
does the Projector block spawn so much particles when
destroyedL269[20:37:49] <Bob> i'm
thinking about switching from serde to nom
<Bob> i'm
thinking about switching from serde to nomL270[20:37:55] <Bob> as
its procedural
<Bob> as
its proceduralL271[20:43:42] <Forecaster> there's code that isn't
awful?
<Forecaster> there's code that isn't
awful?L272[20:45:58] <Amanda> sounds fake, but
okay
L273[20:47:33] <sapphicfettucine> lmao
<sapphicfettucine> lmaoL274[20:47:44] <sapphicfettucine> wrecked a world by
messing with the mtu
<sapphicfettucine> wrecked a world by
messing with the mtuL275[20:47:55] <sapphicfettucine> which makes oc2 crash
on packets
<sapphicfettucine> which makes oc2 crash
on packetsL276[20:48:07] <sapphicfettucine> and i have udp code
running in my computers in this world
<sapphicfettucine> and i have udp code
running in my computers in this worldL277[20:48:19] <Amanda> should probably
distill that and file an issue
L278[20:48:26] <sapphicfettucine> yep
<sapphicfettucine> yepL279[20:48:29] <sapphicfettucine> gonna look at crash
logs
<sapphicfettucine> gonna look at crash
logsL280[20:49:12] <Forecaster> just don't crash the
logs
<Forecaster> just don't crash the
logsL281[20:49:21] <sapphicfettucine> no promises
<sapphicfettucine> no promisesL282[20:51:11] <sapphicfettucine> some part of me is
wondering if either i or amanda should submit our import
alternatives to the oc2 github
<sapphicfettucine> some part of me is
wondering if either i or amanda should submit our import
alternatives to the oc2 githubL283[20:51:27] <sapphicfettucine> considering that the
slowness of import is a complaint i've seen a fair bit on the
birdside
<sapphicfettucine> considering that the
slowness of import is a complaint i've seen a fair bit on the
birdsideL284[20:52:12] <Amanda> Hrm, can std::map
& vector be used without libstdc++.so?
L285[20:52:21] <sapphicfettucine> i have no idea
<sapphicfettucine> i have no ideaL286[20:54:04] <Amanda> Cause otherwise
the ~2MB dep there is a no-go until @Sangar figures out how to
seperate stuff like c++ support to a seperate
"package"
L287[20:59:52] <CompanionCube> Amanda:
well, you don't need libstdc++.so if you statically link it
L288[21:00:46] <CompanionCube> though that
route tends to be all-or-nothing, so maybe a nogo
L289[21:02:15] <Amanda> oh, that doesn't
look good
L290[21:02:46] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/wpoqfVSYIRjCnonPpXvaPpnO/screenshot-1645131747.png
L291[21:05:29] <Amanda> I might need to
move some stuff off the spinning rust
L292[21:14:42] <sapphicfettucine> ooh fun times, got a
segfault
<sapphicfettucine> ooh fun times, got a
segfaultL293[21:14:48] <Forecaster> %SIP
<Forecaster> %SIPL294[21:14:49] <MichiBot> You drink a
smooth pink potion (New!). Forecaster turns into an avesmingo sloth
boy until they find a lamp.
L295[21:15:08] <Forecaster> well, time to slowly look for
lamp
<Forecaster> well, time to slowly look for
lampL296[21:15:34] <Amanda> %remindme 16h move
the lxd volume to the ssd instead of having it on the hdd, convert
the ssd to butter first
L297[21:15:35] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"move the lxd volume to the ssd instead of having it on the
hdd, convert the ssd to butter first" in 16h at 02/18/2022
01:15:34 PM
L298[21:21:13] <Bob> Is
there a list of all the possible types for a method for the HLAPI
?
<Bob> Is
there a list of all the possible types for a method for the HLAPI
?L299[21:22:31] <sapphicfettucine> a specific method or
any method
<sapphicfettucine> a specific method or
any methodL300[21:24:25] <Bob> for
any
<Bob> for
anyL301[21:25:03] <lunar_sam> soon, nelua
fun
L302[21:25:10] <sapphicfettucine> each method has a java
definition with a type signature
<sapphicfettucine> each method has a java
definition with a type signatureL303[21:25:11] <Amanda> I believe they're
free-form, I think the robot API even exposes the java class name
of an enum
L304[21:25:20] <lunar_sam> this will
include: HLAPI and trying to make kernel modules with Nelua
L305[21:25:22] <Bob> then
ill keep it a string until then
<Bob> then
ill keep it a string until thenL306[21:26:24] <CompanionCube> lunar_sam:
for which kernel
L307[21:27:18] <lunar_sam> linux
5.whatever OC2 uses
L308[21:27:34] <sapphicfettucine> 5.9 iirc
<sapphicfettucine> 5.9 iircL309[21:27:44] <CompanionCube> truly
cursed
L310[21:28:08] <lunar_sam> anyways, i WILL
make tsukinet for OC2
L311[21:28:15] <lunar_sam> fear me
L312[21:28:54] <CompanionCube> maybe take
inspiration from whichever BSD toyed with that idea
L313[21:28:57] <CompanionCube> i don't
remember which it was
L314[21:30:02] <lunar_sam> oh
L315[21:30:09] <lunar_sam> nelua is
compiled to machine code
L316[21:30:23] <lunar_sam> but lua
scripting in the kernel also sounds fun
L317[21:30:32] <CompanionCube> it's not a
new thing
L318[21:30:47] <lunar_sam> i know one of
the BSDs did it
L319[21:30:54] <lunar_sam> one of them
also has lua scripting in the loader
L320[21:31:01] <CompanionCube> also any
system with a modern ZFS can do it
L321[21:31:41] <CompanionCube> (well, not
oracle solaris, but who cares about oracle solaris)
L322[21:31:57] <lunar_sam> so where's the
assets for the flash and linux root stored
L323[21:32:00] <lunar_sam> in oc2
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L326[21:33:34] <lunar_sam> i mean the
actual assets in the mod
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L329[21:34:05] <lunar_sam> i know about
the buildroot
L330[21:34:09] <lunar_sam> (i need to set
up a toolchain)
L331[21:34:59] <sapphicfettucine> uhh
<sapphicfettucine> uhhL332[21:35:09] <sapphicfettucine> iirc there's a line in
the build script that glues sedna-buildroot in
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L334[21:40:21] <lunar_sam> found it
L335[21:40:28] <lunar_sam> it's in sedna,
not oc2
L336[21:50:44] <sapphicfettucine> woo
<sapphicfettucine> wooL337[21:50:48] <sapphicfettucine> my distributed
downloader works
<sapphicfettucine> my distributed
downloader worksL338[21:50:54] <sapphicfettucine> it's also the worst
code i've ever written
<sapphicfettucine> it's also the worst
code i've ever writtenL339[21:51:01] <sapphicfettucine> but it works so i can
let my brain have a break
<sapphicfettucine> but it works so i can
let my brain have a breakL340[22:04:26] <Bob> when
you `self.stringbuf.pushstr(unsafe {
str::fromutf8unchecked(&self.buffer[1..bytes_read]) });`
instead of `self.buffer.consume(1)` 😔
<Bob> when
you `self.stringbuf.pushstr(unsafe {
str::fromutf8unchecked(&self.buffer[1..bytes_read]) });`
instead of `self.buffer.consume(1)` 😔L341[22:04:52] <sapphicfettucine> oh that's
lightweight
<sapphicfettucine> oh that's
lightweightL342[22:05:58] <sapphicfettucine> the badness of the
downloader code isn't really unsafety either, though i wouldn't say
that RefCell<*const u8> is classical rust
<sapphicfettucine> the badness of the
downloader code isn't really unsafety either, though i wouldn't say
that RefCell<*const u8> is classical rustL343[22:06:03] <sapphicfettucine> it's more just messy af
architecture
<sapphicfettucine> it's more just messy af
architectureL344[22:06:10] <Bob> what
the heck lol
<Bob> what
the heck lolL345[22:06:29] <Bob> at
this point, i dont know if i should maintain my own stuff with no
time or just start PRing
<Bob> at
this point, i dont know if i should maintain my own stuff with no
time or just start PRingL346[22:06:44] <sapphicfettucine> >Bob: what the heck
lol
<sapphicfettucine> >Bob: what the heck
lolL347[22:06:45] <sapphicfettucine> need to borrow
mutably/immutably against individual chunks of a mmaped slice
<sapphicfettucine> need to borrow
mutably/immutably against individual chunks of a mmaped sliceL348[22:07:29] <Bob> so
you basically want `splitatmut` ? 🤔
<Bob> so
you basically want `splitatmut` ? 🤔L349[22:07:30] <sapphicfettucine> thus: refcell + a
pointer to avoid the borrow checker since refcell takes care of the
only-one-mutable borrow invariant and the mmap is guaranteed to be
dropped at the same time as the pointer through some struct
organization
<sapphicfettucine> thus: refcell + a
pointer to avoid the borrow checker since refcell takes care of the
only-one-mutable borrow invariant and the mmap is guaranteed to be
dropped at the same time as the pointer through some struct
organizationL350[22:07:54] <Bob> well
i do agree that getting multiple non overlapping mutable slice
references to a buffer is hella tedious
<Bob> well
i do agree that getting multiple non overlapping mutable slice
references to a buffer is hella tediousL351[22:08:06] <Bob> but
this is still in the realm of overly cursed
<Bob> but
this is still in the realm of overly cursedL352[22:08:08] <sapphicfettucine> the thing is i need to
keep them around in a struct
<sapphicfettucine> the thing is i need to
keep them around in a structL353[22:08:36] <sapphicfettucine> and it's easier to
manually enforce the invariants than work around the borrow checker
sometimes
<sapphicfettucine> and it's easier to
manually enforce the invariants than work around the borrow checker
sometimesL354[22:09:28] <Bob> ~~i
can always peek at the source and nitpick every insignificant
detail~~
<Bob> ~~i
can always peek at the source and nitpick every insignificant
detail~~L355[22:09:58] <sapphicfettucine> "rules are meant
to be broken", i say, getting segfaulted
<sapphicfettucine> "rules are meant
to be broken", i say, getting segfaultedL356[22:10:31] <Bob> i can
put the last bits of my brainpower at work before i just go to
sleep again right now
<Bob> i can
put the last bits of my brainpower at work before i just go to
sleep again right nowL358[22:19:42] <Bob> but
its just stuck
<Bob> but
its just stuckL359[22:27:52] <Bob> ok so
for some reason the polling makes it stuck
<Bob> ok so
for some reason the polling makes it stuckL360[22:28:04] <Bob>
`self.poller.wait_one()?;` just never executes
<Bob>
`self.poller.wait_one()?;` just never executesL361[22:30:17] <Bob> yeah
this is some bs i'll never figure out
<Bob> yeah
this is some bs i'll never figure outL362[22:32:46] <Bob> it
must mean that data never got written if no even comes
trought
<Bob> it
must mean that data never got written if no even comes
troughtL363[22:33:17] <Bob> am i
delusional or what
<Bob> am i
delusional or whatL364[22:36:08] <sapphicfettucine> yeah if poller is
blocking that means it's not getting data
<sapphicfettucine> yeah if poller is
blocking that means it's not getting dataL365[22:36:43] <Bob> yeah
ik, but for some reason its not getting data written
<Bob> yeah
ik, but for some reason its not getting data writtenL366[22:37:18] <Bob> Code
Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/agehuquzex for some
reason this doesn't do shit eh
<Bob> Code
Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/agehuquzex for some
reason this doesn't do shit ehL367[22:37:56] <dequbed> @sapphicfettucine
yes, there's a network packet size limit; it's 64K including all
headers.
L368[22:38:00] <Bob> screw
it, i am going to `serdejson::towriter(&mut
std::io::stdout().lock(), data);`
<Bob> screw
it, i am going to `serdejson::towriter(&mut
std::io::stdout().lock(), data);`L369[22:38:16] <sapphicfettucine> >dequbed:
<@722196443514798181> yes, there's a network packet size
limit; it's 64K including …
<sapphicfettucine> >dequbed:
<@722196443514798181> yes, there's a network packet size
limit; it's 64K including …L370[22:38:16] <sapphicfettucine> i've found it to be
lower?
<sapphicfettucine> i've found it to be
lower?L371[22:38:21] <sapphicfettucine> but that may be my
sketchy code
<sapphicfettucine> but that may be my
sketchy codeL372[22:38:25] <dequbed> No
L373[22:38:43] <sapphicfettucine> at least for udp, tcp
does splitting to MTU automagically right
<sapphicfettucine> at least for udp, tcp
does splitting to MTU automagically rightL374[22:38:48] <dequbed> The default MTU
linux configures for VirtIO is 1500. The limit where OC2 will start
bugging and crashing in the VM is 64K.
L375[22:39:05] <sapphicfettucine> ohh i see
<sapphicfettucine> ohh i seeL377[22:39:27] <sapphicfettucine> i may have set it with
a few more zeros at the end than intended :p
<sapphicfettucine> i may have set it with
a few more zeros at the end than intended :pL378[22:42:05] <Bob> now i
have no fucking clue why does my implementation yield
`InvalidData`s at all times https://tinyurl.com/ycsw95fh
<Bob> now i
have no fucking clue why does my implementation yield
`InvalidData`s at all times https://tinyurl.com/ycsw95fhL380[22:43:02] <Bob> aight
so who sneaked a 0 and not a null byte
<Bob> aight
so who sneaked a 0 and not a null byteL381[22:43:13] <sapphicfettucine> what are you setting
DELIM to?
<sapphicfettucine> what are you setting
DELIM to?L382[22:43:24] <Bob> it
says it right there, i got it
<Bob> it
says it right there, i got itL383[22:43:33] <Bob>
altough again its died
<Bob>
altough again its diedL386[22:45:51] <Bob> if
only printing wasn't broken in OC2
<Bob> if
only printing wasn't broken in OC2L387[22:45:57] <Bob> until
then, i'll make a wrapping print
<Bob> until
then, i'll make a wrapping printL388[22:46:03] <sapphicfettucine> 90% of my debugging was
just printing out what was sent/received before parsing
<sapphicfettucine> 90% of my debugging was
just printing out what was sent/received before parsingL389[22:46:49] <sapphicfettucine> >Bob: if only
printing wasn't broken in OC2
<sapphicfettucine> >Bob: if only
printing wasn't broken in OC2L390[22:46:49] <sapphicfettucine> yeah sometimes i just
piped to a file and then opened it in nano lol
<sapphicfettucine> yeah sometimes i just
piped to a file and then opened it in nano lolL391[22:46:50] <dequbed> Ah yes, printf
debugging.
L392[22:50:03] <sapphicfettucine> the one and only
<sapphicfettucine> the one and onlyL393[22:50:51] <Bob> `fn
main() { if let Err(e) = main2() { wrappingprint(&e.tostring(),
70) } }`
<Bob> `fn
main() { if let Err(e) = main2() { wrappingprint(&e.tostring(),
70) } }`L394[22:50:56] <Bob> the
lengendary
<Bob> the
lengendaryL396[22:54:11] <sapphicfettucine> are you building with
panic. abort?
<sapphicfettucine> are you building with
panic. abort?L397[22:54:13] <sapphicfettucine> are you building with
panic abort? [Edited]
<sapphicfettucine> are you building with
panic abort? [Edited]L398[22:54:20] <sapphicfettucine> panic immediate
abort*
<sapphicfettucine> panic immediate
abort*L399[22:54:23] <Bob>
yep
<Bob>
yepL400[22:54:41] <Bob> i
guess this is an ud2 or whatever LLVM loves so much
<Bob> i
guess this is an ud2 or whatever LLVM loves so muchL401[22:54:41] <sapphicfettucine> in my experience that
does something which causes an illegal instruction on panic
<sapphicfettucine> in my experience that
does something which causes an illegal instruction on panicL402[22:54:53] <sapphicfettucine> which might be
intentional idk i haven't looked
<sapphicfettucine> which might be
intentional idk i haven't lookedL403[22:54:55] <Bob> i
have no unwraps anywhere
<Bob> i
have no unwraps anywhereL404[22:55:05] <dequbed> I mean there
isn't an HCF instruction on RV last I checked :)
L405[22:55:08] <Bob> well
besides stuff in STD
<Bob> well
besides stuff in STDL406[22:55:08] <sapphicfettucine> still might have a
panic somewhere
<sapphicfettucine> still might have a
panic somewhereL407[22:55:19] <sapphicfettucine> so i'd try turning it
off
<sapphicfettucine> so i'd try turning it
offL408[22:55:23] <sapphicfettucine> so you can at least get
an error
<sapphicfettucine> so you can at least get
an errorL409[22:55:30] <sapphicfettucine> and then turn it back
on when you need a min-sized binary
<sapphicfettucine> and then turn it back
on when you need a min-sized binaryL410[22:55:31] <Bob>
`slice_at` can panic i guess
<Bob>
`slice_at` can panic i guessL412[22:59:12] <Bob>
actually it just crashed silently now
<Bob>
actually it just crashed silently nowL414[23:03:19] <Bob>
funny
<Bob>
funnyL416[23:04:36] <Bob> now
thats good
<Bob> now
thats goodL417[23:14:41] ⇦
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L419[23:15:13] <sapphicfettucine> net split day huh
<sapphicfettucine> net split day huhL420[23:15:47] <Bob> now i
just need to fidn a way to ignore the trialing characters in
serde
<Bob> now i
just need to fidn a way to ignore the trialing characters in
serdeL421[23:15:53] <Bob> dont
even know why serde bothers with that
<Bob> dont
even know why serde bothers with thatL422[23:16:11]
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L424[23:19:14] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> anybody know an easy way to
make and apply a "font" to some pieces of text in a
script on OpenOS
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> anybody know an easy way to
make and apply a "font" to some pieces of text in a
script on OpenOSL425[23:21:18] <Bob> use
weird unicode characters ?
<Bob> use
weird unicode characters ?L426[23:21:31] <Bob> the
font is unique
<Bob> the
font is uniqueL427[23:23:19] <Kristopher38> I know you're all about OC2
these days but just wanted to share this little achievement of mine
in OC1 - in-OC debugger: https://tinyurl.com/ycblk3jw
<Kristopher38> I know you're all about OC2
these days but just wanted to share this little achievement of mine
in OC1 - in-OC debugger: https://tinyurl.com/ycblk3jwL429[23:24:42] <sapphicfettucine> >Kristopher38: I
know you're all about OC2 these days but just wanted to share this
little achieve…
<sapphicfettucine> >Kristopher38: I
know you're all about OC2 these days but just wanted to share this
little achieve…L430[23:24:42] <sapphicfettucine> oh that's super
cool
<sapphicfettucine> oh that's super
coolL431[23:24:51] <sapphicfettucine> how are you managing
the execution per-line?
<sapphicfettucine> how are you managing
the execution per-line?L432[23:26:11] <Kristopher38> parse debugged code ->
build AST -> insert `if breakpoint defined for current line then
pass control to the debugger` between every Lua statement -> ???
-> profit
<Kristopher38> parse debugged code ->
build AST -> insert `if breakpoint defined for current line then
pass control to the debugger` between every Lua statement -> ???
-> profitL433[23:26:35] <sapphicfettucine> that's really
neat
<sapphicfettucine> that's really
neatL434[23:27:39] <Kristopher38> thanks, i'm really excited
for the new capabilities
<Kristopher38> thanks, i'm really excited
for the new capabilitiesL435[23:28:23] <Kristopher38> i hope for the days of
debugging by prints to be over
<Kristopher38> i hope for the days of
debugging by prints to be overL436[23:31:22] <Bob>
>MR_SPᐰGETTY: this is the "font" i want to make in
OC
<Bob>
>MR_SPᐰGETTY: this is the "font" i want to make in
OCL437[23:31:22] <Bob> you
can use the subpixel technique
<Bob> you
can use the subpixel techniqueL438[23:31:47] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> what is the sub pixel
technique?
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> what is the sub pixel
technique?L439[23:32:02] <Bob> using
unicode braille characters to build up bigger characters in
OC
<Bob> using
unicode braille characters to build up bigger characters in
OCL440[23:33:20] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> can you direct me to an
example usage of this technique
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> can you direct me to an
example usage of this techniqueL441[23:44:58] <Bob> Code
Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/gewofizebi man this is
such a hack just because serde shits itself with trailing null
bytes
<Bob> Code
Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/gewofizebi man this is
such a hack just because serde shits itself with trailing null
bytesL443[23:45:38] <Bob>
anyways
<Bob>
anywaysL444[23:46:58] <Bob>
enough of this crap for today, i'm again exhausted by doing
nothing
<Bob>
enough of this crap for today, i'm again exhausted by doing
nothingL445[23:49:50]
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L450[23:56:29] <sapphicfettucine> >Bob: ```rs
<sapphicfettucine> >Bob: ```rsL451[23:56:29] <sapphicfettucine> struct ScrewNulls<R:
Read> { reader: R }
<sapphicfettucine> struct ScrewNulls<R:
Read> { reader: R }L452[23:56:30] <sapphicfettucine> impl<R: Read>
Read f…
<sapphicfettucine> impl<R: Read>
Read f…L453[23:56:30] <sapphicfettucine> it might be easier to
strip off the last byte in future ig
<sapphicfettucine> it might be easier to
strip off the last byte in future igL454[23:58:37] <Amanda> dequbed, Izaya_ et
all: Yes, that new fediverse follow from
amanda@ktistec.d.camnet.site is me. I decided to set up one of
those single-user thingos on a machine I control, so it's only my
own fault when stuff breaks, and because I'm too anxious to poke
Lizzy when the one I was on is broken