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L1[00:15:11] <S3​33G> Hello,
L2[00:15:32] <Michiyo> Welcome
L3[00:15:47] <S3​33G> Is there a way to disable the delay between executing commands. It is very unusual for playing music. 😅
L4[00:16:25] <S3​33G> Is there a way to disable the delay between executing commands. It is very unusual for playing note_block music. 😅 [Edited]
L5[00:23:35] <Amanda> AFAIK you can't disable it, but it can be configured to be stupid-large, but that can only be done by the config on the server
L6[00:25:54] <S3​33G> Which config?
L7[00:26:25] <Amanda> the mod config <MC-Folder>/config
L8[00:28:28] <S3​33G> Do you mean the opencomputers config?
L9[00:28:28] <S3​33G> How is the setting called?
L10[00:28:36] <S3​33G> Do you mean the OpenComputers config?
L11[00:28:37] <S3​33G> How is the setting called? [Edited]
L12[00:28:51] <Amanda> Call budget or similar?
L13[00:29:10] <Amanda> Also don't edit your messages for such trivial things, it sends a whole new message on this side of the bridge
L14[00:30:07] <S3​33G> >Amanda: Call budget or similar?
L15[00:30:08] <S3​33G> What do you mean?
L16[00:30:50] <Amanda> The option is called something like call budget, or it's in the comment near it, IIRC. I don't have the config file open in front of me to give more solid answers
L17[00:31:57] <Ocawes​ome101> have response times to google been worse for anyone else today?
L18[00:32:00] <S3​33G> Found it. There are 3 numbers.
L19[00:32:03] <Ocawes​ome101> intermittently so?
L20[00:32:16] <Amanda> Each one is a different tier of CPU
L21[00:32:22] <S3​33G> >Ocawesome101: have response times to google been worse for anyone else today?
L22[00:32:22] <S3​33G> I already searched for it but found nothing helpful.
L23[00:32:39] <S3​33G> >Amanda: Each one is a different tier of CPU
L24[00:32:39] <S3​33G> I'll give it a try, thanks.
L25[00:38:02] <S3​33G> There's still a delay when triggering multiple noteblocks.
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L27[00:58:40] <Amanda> Did you restart mc after changing it?
L28[00:59:56] <Amanda> Otherwise not sure, it might be a mc limitation or something hard-coded into the mod as lag reduxty
L29[01:00:53] <Amanda> For instance redstone only ticks 10 times a second vs the rest of mc which goes at 20
L30[01:06:10] <S3​33G> >Amanda: Did you restart mc after changing it?
L31[01:06:10] <S3​33G> I restarted the server.
L32[01:09:37] <Elfi> I assume redstone cards have to block until the next tick by their nature?
L33[01:11:07] <Elfi> Or at least a deferred call, I don't recall if those are implemented
L34[01:12:10] <S3​33G> I'm using adapters, no redstone card.
L35[01:15:54] <Amanda> Same thing in the code level
L36[01:16:09] <lunar_sam> hm
L37[01:16:20] <lunar_sam> i managed to hang systemd-resolvd
L38[01:16:22] <lunar_sam> weird
L39[01:16:57] <Amanda> Hang it, or get it Ina DNSSEC verification catch-22?
L40[01:17:38] <Amanda> My pi couldn't update its clock because DNSSEC wasnt valid because it couldn't update its clock becau...
L41[01:18:18] <CompanionCube> Amanda: i remember solving that by telling resolved to fuck off.
L42[01:19:01] <CompanionCube> also iirc that doesn't actually hang resolved it, you just get complaints in the journal.
L43[01:19:29] <Amanda> CompanionCube: this turned out to be a NixOS bug because the timedated or whatever is meant to ignore DNSSEC but NixOS forgot to copy that environment variable
L44[01:20:00] <CompanionCube> maybe they improved the handling since i dealt with it
L45[01:20:31] <Amanda> There's a magic environment variable you can do that makes the libnss shim tell resolved to be less secure, you know, insetead of having a graceful downgrade switch or something
L46[01:22:22] <lunar_sam> i love things just magically breaking
L47[01:22:25] <Amanda> Also that catch-22 probably only exists because normal pi OSes grab the close-enough-to-current time from file modified dates, but since NixOS is fully reproducible, it's in the 80s which is obviously outside the bounds
L48[01:24:39] <CompanionCube> Amanda: well, you also hit it if you don't update systemd frequently enough to refresh said dates, no?
L49[01:24:55] <Amanda> true
L50[01:25:16] <Amanda> Though IIRC it works off a file in /etc or similar not the source code
L51[01:25:26] <Amanda> but even /etc is generated in a derevation, and thus in the 80s
L52[01:26:55] <CompanionCube> i think i recall systemd using its own build date or something like that
L53[01:27:35] <Amanda> Huh. Well, the time/date thing I know of was before systemd absorbed /etc/localtime functionality, so it may well do that
L54[01:33:42] <S3​33G> Is there a workaround against the delay, or is there anything left I can do?
L55[01:58:21] <Amanda> There's a card that lets you play noteblock sounds I think? that might work. Not sure if it's in OC proper or in computronics
L56[02:02:40] <lunar_sam> computronics, iirc
L57[02:16:17] <Amanda> Good job, Rust/Sublime Text:
L58[02:16:31] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/oOGpCWfONXEMbJOdimPNQZsp/screenshot-1644027361.png
L59[02:27:04] <Kilobyte> Seriously, you fix resolvd by disabling it. On my work computer it crashes only twice a day
L60[02:27:32] <Kilobyte> (I should rip it out at some point, but restarting it is faster than actually fixing it)
L61[02:29:09] <ink​oate> Is the OC2 import.lua have to be as slow as it is, or is it being artificially slowed?
L62[02:29:15] <ink​oate> Because jeez
L63[02:29:29] <Kilobyte> import.lua, what's that doing again?
L64[02:30:09] <Amanda> @inkoate it's passed in a json array of bytes, X at a time, and then writes them all out
L65[02:30:19] <Amanda> It uses the RPCDevice system
L66[02:30:28] <ink​oate> ouch
L67[02:33:08] <Kilobyte> Ah right
L68[02:33:20] <Kilobyte> Yeah the rpc bus is a bit scary
L69[02:33:33] <Kilobyte> We have some very cursed ideas but no spoilers
L70[02:36:43] <lunar_sam> > (I should rip it out at some point, but restarting it is faster than actually fixing it)
L71[02:36:44] <lunar_sam> yep
L72[02:45:13] <ink​oate> Is there any reason we can't unzip the disk image, mount it, copy stuff in there and rezip it?
L73[02:45:22] <ink​oate> while MC isn't running, of course.
L74[02:45:36] <Amanda> not really
L75[02:45:59] <Amanda> It's just normal ext2/3/4
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L77[02:49:06] <ink​oate> its one of the UUID-named files in the oc2-blobs directory, I assume?
L78[02:50:05] <Amanda> yes, I think the UUID is shwon in the tooltip
L79[02:51:21] <ink​oate> Sadly doesn't look like it.
L80[02:51:44] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Enable advanced tooltips, perhaps?
L81[02:52:08] <Amanda> I might be thinking of OC1
L82[02:53:33] <ink​oate> huh, how do you enable advanced tooltips?
L83[02:55:48] <Amanda> f3+h
L84[02:55:50] <Amanda> I think
L85[02:58:29] <Klea​dron> you guys like cats right
L86[03:06:26] <Amanda> Who doesn't?
L87[03:06:31] <Amanda> heretics, that's who
L88[03:06:45] <Izaya> Amanda: https://shadowkat.net/tmp/413b.png https://shadowkat.net/tmp/c4bb.png
L89[03:06:56] <Izaya> keyboard as a wibar
L90[03:08:09] <Amanda> Izaya: cursed af
L91[03:08:20] <Izaya> and yet it works wonderfully
L92[03:08:22] <Izaya> B)
L93[03:08:36] <Izaya> get layout-ing for free
L94[03:09:04] <Izaya> no need for a custom layout function (or abusing the OSK's features)
L95[03:10:16] <Klea​dron> https://twitter.com/rin_oto_cats/status/1489757525797122049
L96[03:10:17] <Klea​dron> have a cat
L97[03:11:09] <Amanda> Kitty!
L98[03:20:10] <ink​oate> Mm, I really wouldn't mind having gdb in sedna. 😂
L99[03:27:10] <Kilobyte> Well you can in theory just mount host file systems using virtio-p9
L100[03:27:21] <Kilobyte> But I don't think the config is there for that
L101[03:27:41] <Kilobyte> s/file systems/directories/
L102[03:27:42] <MichiBot> <Kilobyte> Well you can in theory just mount host directories using virtio-p9
L103[03:31:33] <ink​oate> I thought Sangar turned that off, but now I'm not sure?
L104[03:32:20] <Izaya> what I can't work out is how to make it grid-ify the task list
L105[03:32:21] <Izaya> :|
L106[03:49:13] <Kilobyte> @inkoate it did work on our build
L107[03:51:35] <Amanda> datapacks can be used, and reloaded. Not sure if sangar ever got a chance to debug / figure out the weirdness with binary files through that though
L108[03:52:12] <Amanda> er, executables rather. It was weird, running it from the 9p mount just hung, copying the binary locally then running was fine
L109[03:53:11] <Kilobyte> weird
L110[03:53:33] <Kilobyte> i have a custom script in there for configuring my switch
L111[03:53:39] <Kilobyte> until i get DSA to work
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L114[04:11:53] <Amanda> %choose laptop nap time or continue staring at the building
L115[04:11:53] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Eeny, meeny, miny, continue staring at the building.
L116[04:12:28] <Izaya> Amanda: https://shadowkat.net/tmp/77f6.png https://shadowkat.net/tmp/4b7b.png
L117[04:12:33] <Izaya> I got the grid window list working
L118[04:12:46] <Amanda> oh nice
L119[04:13:05] <Amanda> How's that work? I just copied over my tasklist from my awesomewm thing today
L120[04:13:11] <Izaya> uhhhhhhhhh
L121[04:13:14] <Izaya> okay it's super messy but
L122[04:14:46] <Izaya> in the widget template section of the window list I have an update_callback function that calculates how many icons will fit in a row, then runs :set_forced_num_rows on the tasklist, which is laid out as a grid
L123[04:15:48] <Amanda> ah
L124[04:15:51] <Amanda> nice
L125[04:18:54] <Kilobyte> i'm gonna head off for tonigh
L126[04:19:20] <Kilobyte> don't break too much while i'm gone
L127[04:20:50] * Amanda pushes the computer running the universe off the table
L128[04:22:48] * Amanda curls up around Elfi, deciding to kill the build job and deal with it tomorrow
L129[04:28:51] <Amanda> %remindme 10h your should investigate why why openhab is spitting out 500's
L130[04:28:52] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "your should investigate why why openhab is spitting out 500's" in 10h at 02/05/2022 02:28:51 PM
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L132[04:31:38] <Amanda> %tell Inari why do you foxen keep time skipping me while I'm busy, and only until bed time!? Rude!
L133[04:31:38] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L134[04:32:30] * Amanda zzzmews, blepping while laying halfway-ontop of Elfi
L135[04:32:37] <Amanda> Night nerds
L136[04:33:07] <Va​ur> %tonk
L137[04:33:07] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 2 hours, 15 minutes and 16 seconds (By 4 hours, 30 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L138[04:33:08] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 6 hours, 46 minutes and 7 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.01353 (0.00451 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L142[04:50:24] <lunar_sam> yoink
L143[04:50:28] <lunar_sam> https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/hPjOSWKHXaokX7nFTOjtOGx0yRfcl4BfgVuaEgDC/287700_20220204234854_1.png
L144[04:51:38] <Mic​hiyo> screams in regex
L145[04:59:18] <lunar_sam> i yoinked another one
L146[05:11:14] <Mic​hiyo> Ok, you folks are smart.
L147[05:11:21] <Mic​hiyo> wtf am I doing wrong lmao
L148[05:11:44] <Mic​hiyo> Ignore me
L149[05:17:12] <Wat​tana> i played around with github's "all-new" projects system and i dont know how the fuck i am supposed to use it lmao
L150[05:17:24] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Regex fun, @Michiyo ?
L151[05:17:37] <Mic​hiyo> Not at the moment.
L152[05:17:47] <Brisingr​Aerowing> That was sarcasm
L153[05:17:53] <Mic​hiyo> Trying to convert RGB triplets to integers... and it's working, but it's also NOT working
L154[05:18:10] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Huh.
L155[05:18:25] <Ocawes​ome101> is `yay` having issues for anyone else or is it just me?
L156[05:19:03] <Mic​hiyo> so, `212 0 0` is converting to `13893632` which IS correct...
L157[05:19:07] <Mic​hiyo> but it's not what I'm expecting...
L158[05:19:13] <Mic​hiyo> I SHOULD be getting 212....
L159[05:19:32] <Mic​hiyo> (I'm trying to parse a file into ANOTHER format and I have no control over either side. lol
L160[05:20:03] <Mic​hiyo> wait... is ONE of these formats RGB and the other BGR?
L161[05:20:06] <Mic​hiyo> I fucking swear
L162[05:20:13] <Ocawes​ome101> yes, you just did
L163[05:20:22] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Lol.
L164[05:20:54] <Brisingr​Aerowing> As a side note, I’ve also seen GBR and GRB used.
L165[05:21:09] <Ocawes​ome101> why
L166[05:21:36] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Because the person was trying for job security.
L167[05:21:38] <Mic​hiyo> SCREAMS
L168[05:21:39] <Mic​hiyo> Yes....
L169[05:21:43] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Didn’t work though.
L170[05:21:50] <Mic​hiyo> the SOURCE data is RGB, and I need to output BGR
L171[05:22:03] <Brisingr​Aerowing> That explains things.
L172[05:22:33] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Not the hardest thing to fix
L173[05:22:36] <Brisingr​Aerowing> I hope.
L174[05:22:54] <Mic​hiyo> nah, just swap a 0 and 2
L175[05:24:16] <Mic​hiyo> Basically, I have to convert https://paste.pc-logix.com/zogusipequ into https://paste.pc-logix.com/resugitibe
L176[05:38:15] <Mic​hiyo> And if anyone is thinking those are both awful formats, I agree
L177[06:17:19] <ThePi​Guy24> that first one looks like valves KV format but worse
L178[06:17:34] <ThePi​Guy24> which i didnt know was possible until now
L179[06:17:44] <ThePi​Guy24> and the 2nd is just csv
L180[06:18:28] <ThePi​Guy24> unlabeled csv
L181[06:19:08] <Mic​hiyo> CSV, but every line has ALL of the scales for ALL of the parts
L182[06:25:29] <Izaya> Amanda: GTK software and high DPI displays really don't get along but https://shadowkat.net/tmp/6d4b.png
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L185[06:53:04] <Forec​aster> %sip
L186[06:53:04] <MichiBot> You drink a muddy stainless steel potion (New!). Forecaster gains some curse. Forecaster has 1 curse. (Rem. uses: 1)
L187[07:19:02] <Ocawes​ome101> i rewrote my preemption code to be actually reasonably decent
L188[07:19:16] <Ocawes​ome101> https://tinyurl.com/yc8yzobs
L189[07:19:29] <Ocawes​ome101> it now properly handles mixed string types, and isn't horribly slow under opencomputers :)
L190[07:19:55] <Ocawes​ome101> switched cynosure 1 to it, and am using a slightly modified version in cynosure 2
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L192[07:21:03] <imcute> hi
L193[07:24:00] <Ocawes​ome101> Hello
L194[07:24:04] <Ocawes​ome101> %hello
L195[07:24:04] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
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L197[07:24:40] <Ocawes​ome101> >Ocawesome101:
L198[07:24:41] <Ocawes​ome101> * this isn’t the full code, but it’s the necessary part
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L202[08:47:08] <Mic​hiyo> yay got it working https://tinyurl.com/ybdgsza6
L203[08:48:42] <Forec​aster> ??
L204[08:49:54] <Mic​hiyo> "Basically, I have to convert https://paste.pc-logix.com/zogusipequ into https://paste.pc-logix.com/resugitibe&quot;
L205[08:50:11] <Mic​hiyo> Converter works, and outputs correctly formatted data that can then be used to render a character
L206[08:51:34] <Forec​aster> ah
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L208[10:42:47] <Inari> nep
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L211[11:02:43] <Inari> %splash amanda blue slime
L212[11:02:43] <MichiBot> You fling a diluted lime potion (New!) that splashes onto amanda. amanda turns into a purple horse sword boy until someone stops looking at them.
L213[11:03:06] <Inari> right
L214[11:03:07] <Inari> other way around
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L216[11:33:45] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L217[11:33:45] <MichiBot> Awesome! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 6 hours, 46 minutes and 7 seconds (By 14 minutes and 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L218[11:33:46] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.012 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.32021432, Position #1
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L225[12:39:21] <ThePi​Guy24> could youn't
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L232[13:42:45] <Amanda> %bite Inari
L233[13:42:45] <MichiBot> Ama​nda is trying to bite Ina​ri! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L234[13:43:04] <MichiBot> Amanda is biting Inari for 1d6 => 3 damage!
L235[13:44:44] <Amanda> Rude fox, I was sleeping!
L236[13:51:14] <Inari> D:
L237[13:51:20] <Inari> %splash Amanda slimy blue
L238[13:51:21] <MichiBot> You fling a slimy blue potion (New!) that splashes onto Amanda. A bard starts playing a lute behind Amanda until Sozin's Comet returns.
L239[13:51:25] <Inari> hah!
L240[13:51:59] * Amanda flops down across Inari's lap
L241[13:52:51] <Amanda> Me and this bard shall perform the song is my people. Mmmmmmmeeeeeeeeoooooowwwwwwwwwoooowwwwwwww
L242[14:04:30] <Inari> oh no
L243[14:28:53] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: your should investigate why why openhab is spitting out 500's
L244[14:32:21] <Amanda> oh good, the logs are useless
L245[14:39:32] * Amanda boops Inari, demands she pay attention to this part of the song of her people
L246[14:52:11] <dequbed> @Ocawesome101 Some good reasons for BGR/GRB include the screen being wired up that way and thus the screen controller expecting pixel data that way and then also storing it that way means you don't have to do bytewise muxing. And after it's found once one tooling is built around that assumption so new code using that tooling also works under it until nobody wants to switch it around anymore.
L247[14:56:32] <ink​oate> Otherwise known as "we've always done it this way".
L248[14:58:03] <Amanda> didn't some moinitors in the CRT days us CMYK? Or am I dreaming up that being part of VESA's options
L249[14:58:23] <Amanda> s/VESA/VGA/?
L250[14:58:23] <MichiBot> <Amanda> didn't some moinitors in the CRT days us CMYK? Or am I dreaming up that being part of VGA's options
L251[14:58:42] <ThePi​Guy24> VGA has always been RGB iirc
L252[14:58:43] <Amanda> RGB isn't magically the best format, it's just what most of the computer industry settled on
L253[14:58:51] <dequbed> CMYK is absorbtive colour, somewhat hard to do with light :P
L254[14:59:33] <dequbed> Or whatever the proper english word for that is. CMYK is the format for ink/paint/print
L255[14:59:37] <Amanda> dequbed: hrm, I could have sworn some xrandr output or another listed cmyk in my early linux days, when CRTs were just starting to go out of fashion
L256[15:00:20] <dequbed> I mean you can totally convert RGB to CMYK. But you *have to convert*, you can't give a CRT or a group of LEDs CMYK values as intensities and get out the colour you mean
L257[15:00:45] <Amanda> maybe I dreamed that though, my brain doesn't file memories correctly, shoving them wherever, sometimes next to dreams
L258[15:01:45] <dequbed> But I mean some tooling working with CMYK is very likely, after all the print & chemical paint industry is a big user of computers too and they have everything in CMYK. But the hardware below it still wouldn't use CMYK there
L259[15:02:09] <dequbed> Also why colour calibration for screens is a thing :P
L260[15:02:47] <dequbed> Not exclusively mind you, there's more reasons than just RGB and CMYK not quite matching up.
L261[15:09:46] <Amanda> \o/ I found why I can't use audio for some reason, I think: https://nixpk.gs/pr-tracker.html?pr=157631
L262[15:11:28] <Amanda> ( That fixes it, not breaks it )
L263[15:15:14] <Amanda> This is what broke it, apparently: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/154276
L264[15:16:42] <Amanda> "I'm not even sure what that patch does!" SO WHY'D YOU REMOVE IT YOU BUBKIS!
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L266[15:41:42] <Amanda> %choose space or cubes or play with the forest
L267[15:41:42] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: play with the forest'os, for a complete breakfast!
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L269[16:05:03] <Zen​1th> i'm starting some documentation for OCEmu, first is the mostly unknown debugger tab (https://github.com/zenith391/OCEmu/wiki/Debugger)
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L271[16:11:07] <Amanda> %choose space or cubes
L272[16:11:07] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I've learned anything in life it's that you always pick "space"
L273[16:11:21] <Amanda> hrm. Nah, that means getting up to turn on the gaming compy
L274[16:26:36] <Z0id​berg> I am super impressed with using vscode for Java that I won't even go back to intellij anymore, the debugger also worked right out of the box
L275[16:26:50] <Z0id​berg> https://tinyurl.com/yaov96e8
L276[16:33:58] <B​ob> IntelliJ is fine ish
L277[16:34:03] <Z0id​berg> I can't stand it
L278[16:34:10] <Z0id​berg> it constantly throws shit in my face I dont want
L279[16:34:18] <B​ob> huh
L280[16:34:44] <Z0id​berg> and I've had a multitude of build problems with it sometimes which are considered easy to fix but idea is so fucking complicated that good luck unless you're a veteran
L281[16:35:01] <Z0id​berg> plus the shortcuts often make no sense
L282[16:46:24] <B​ob> idk, never had problems
L283[16:46:33] <B​ob> besides forgegradle not working but forgegradle is garbo
L284[16:51:59] <Z0id​berg> I am the kind of person who does not like too much full service or anything that pops up in my way when I'm trying to think or things that try to do shit for me without me instigating it.
L285[16:52:10] <Z0id​berg> This is one reason why idea is just not a good fit for me
L286[16:52:32] <B​ob> idk, it doesnt throw shit at my face
L287[16:52:47] <Z0id​berg> Well it includes things like code generation
L288[16:53:18] <Z0id​berg> things like popping parenthesis and crap on you when you're trying to type, extra brackets and a bunch of other things. I can only take so much of that until I've had enough.
L289[16:53:50] <Z0id​berg> If I'm going to have that it needs to be gentle and unobtrusive
L290[16:54:05] <Z0id​berg> if it interrupts me while I'm trying to get shit done it's annoying
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L292[16:57:02] <Z0id​berg> also the reference window that pops up when you hit shift twice is annoying af
L293[16:57:16] <Z0id​berg> I shouldn't have had to disable it in the first place
L294[16:58:09] <Z0id​berg> the other thing is vscode runs a LOT faster.
L295[16:58:55] <Z0id​berg> I don't want 128GB of RAM and a minimum requirement of a 10Ghz CPU just to boot the Idea operating system.
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L297[17:21:52] <Amanda> I don't know if idea even still works, I don't think I've been installing it for years now
L298[17:22:45] <Amanda> But I've also only touched Java sparingly. I did my PR for oc2 with my normal editor then ran Gradle myself to make sure it built and worked
L299[17:26:09] <Amanda> But most of the benefits of idea / eclipse are moot now a days thanks to the LSP, and the fact eclipse decided to use that as well in a recent re-factoring. So you get all the code completion and other language features of a more decidated IDE in any random editor nowadays, even neivim
L300[17:26:14] <Amanda> Neivim*
L301[17:26:20] <Amanda> Fucking hell android
L302[17:26:51] <Amanda> neovim*
L303[17:27:34] <ben_mkiv> i like trains
L304[17:27:45] <ben_mkiv> and idea
L305[17:28:24] <Amanda> Idea was okay, but I've never really liked it as much as an editor I've used for literally every thing else
L306[17:28:28] <ben_mkiv> but i've never used eclipse really, i think i tried it once and it wasn't really intuitive
L307[17:28:59] <Amanda> Yeah eclipse was a cluster truck of plugin dependency hell last I touched ut
L308[17:29:13] <Z0id​berg> I haven't used Eclipse since ModLoader
L309[17:29:27] <Z0id​berg> Even then, I resorted to using emacs
L310[17:30:20] <ben_mkiv> but also the other ide's of jetbrains are kinda neat, and once you are used to one that transfers to the others
L311[17:30:37] <Amanda> Now I'm using sublime as my main editor. The "editor I use for everything else" changes, what's nice is now there's a good chance of a baseline code completion and such support in them all
L312[17:41:32] <Va​ur> %tonk
L313[17:41:32] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 6 hours, 7 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L314[17:41:33] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 6 hours, 7 minutes and 47 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00613)
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L318[18:31:01] <dequbed> Amanda: Both Eclipse and IntelliJ are much more than just LSP. Yes, LSP makes good autocompletion available for all editors and not just full IDEs but especially on the JVM completions are just a fraction of the picture.
L319[18:32:07] <Amanda> dequbed: true, but it does the biggest part I'd use a dedicated IDE for, any additional IDE bells/wistles are negated by the discrepency when editing using whatever my default editor of the month is
L320[18:32:53] <Amanda> most of the bells/whistles added just get in the way of my muscle memory from my usual editor
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L322[18:35:44] <dequbed> I mean the features I've been talking about aren't ones I've seen available to any editor so far, things like deployment, SQL REPL, classpath management, automatic decompilation of .class files etc.
L323[18:36:31] <Amanda> fair
L324[18:36:52] <Amanda> I'm just more happy with whatever my editor of the month is, since I don't have to have specific knowledge for that language
L325[18:37:00] <Amanda> LSP has made me very happy in this regard
L326[18:37:04] <dequbed> Also the german state broadcaster is throwing shade at the russian state broadcaster and I'm very much here for it :D *grabs more popcorn*
L327[18:38:51] <Amanda> Also, dequbed that cauldren full of lava on the server, with the sign above it in german, does that translate to somerhing like "Infinite lava in 1.17+" or similar? I may steakl that idea for my own modpack fuck-about world
L328[18:39:20] <dequbed> Yep
L329[18:39:48] <dequbed> Dripstone in 1.18 below a lava source block will over the span of a day (ingame) or so fill a cauldron with lava
L330[18:40:22] <dequbed> That's a vanilla feature btw, not something added by us
L331[18:41:23] <ben_mkiv> so no more lava pumps in the nether but cauldron farms on servers with lava powergen
L332[18:42:42] <dequbed> I mean it's a lot of setup if you need lava in any apprechiable quantity. And nowadays all mods know to make their pumps be efficient in the nether so it's not a big deal to just dry out the nether
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L338[20:18:58] <Ar​iri> %pet dequbed
L339[20:18:59] <MichiBot> Ariri is patting dequbed with [Edited]. dequbed regains 1d4 => 4 hit points! [Edited] gets lost in the woods and is never seen again.
L340[21:02:23] <Brisingr​Aerowing> %sip
L341[21:02:23] <MichiBot> You drink a runny honey potion (New!). When BrisingrAerowing brings the bottle down they see A Void colored plastic flamingo. It stares into their soul.
L342[21:02:49] <Brisingr​Aerowing> %help
L343[21:02:50] <MichiBot> Brisingr​Aerowing: Command list: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/help
L344[21:04:12] <Brisingr​Aerowing> %stab Annoying Political Solicitors
L345[21:04:12] <MichiBot> BrisingrAerowing is trying to stab Annoying! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L346[21:04:34] <MichiBot> BrisingrAerowing is stabbing Annoying with Political Solicitors for 1d4 => 4 damage!
L347[21:05:32] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Currently in the process of building GCC with MinGW-w64.
L348[21:05:55] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Taking a while, as it seems that Msys2 is slower on Win11 than on Win10.
L349[21:06:03] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Which is weird.
L350[21:32:05] <Forec​aster> https://xkcd.com/2577/
L351[22:04:43] <Forec​aster> %sip
L352[22:04:43] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy röd potion (New!). A sudden craving for soup occupies Forecaster's thoughts until they use "Yip" in a sentence.
L353[22:05:00] <Forec​aster> Yip-ee! Soup!
L354[22:10:36] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> Is there some sort of cron job in openos?
L355[22:10:57] <lunar_sam> https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/kp74v0RvlfDN2W4eznXMAbx54WDhW5KIRh95eiji/Screenshot_2022-02-05_17-05-33.png
L356[22:10:58] <lunar_sam> AAAAAAAAA
L357[22:12:35] <Forec​aster> >Aggressive Post-It Note: Is there some sort of cron job in openos?
L358[22:12:36] <Forec​aster> I don't think so, but you can make a small program with a repeating timer that does whatever you want and then just autostart it
L359[22:16:19] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> Ah ok so I could use the `rc` OpenOS API with something like `event.timer` and that'd run in the background without consuming CPU, presumably
L360[22:16:32] <Ocawes​ome101> without consuming much, anyway
L361[22:16:37] <Forec​aster> %autorun
L362[22:16:37] <MichiBot> In OpenOS, in the file `/home/.shrc` put a single shell command on each line
L363[22:16:39] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> And then I guess use `load` on the actual code I want to run
L364[22:17:00] <Forec​aster> use that to autostart programs or just run shell commands at startup
L365[22:17:15] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> It works with shell commands now?
L366[22:17:22] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> Before I'd always have to use os.execute
L367[22:18:19] <Ocawes​ome101> nah you still do
L368[22:19:01] <Forec​aster> I thought it executed shell commands
L369[22:21:21] <lunar_sam> i need to make things again
L370[22:24:31] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> Is there a clever way to bind to an environment variable from within a lua script?
L371[22:24:50] <lunar_sam> os.get/setenv?
L372[22:24:57] <Ocawes​ome101> you can use `os.getenv` and `os.setenv` to interact with them
L373[22:25:03] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> I want to keep track of the `event.timer` once the .shrc terminates
L374[22:26:19] <Ocawes​ome101> oh, right, `.shrc` is shell commands
L375[22:26:26] <Ocawes​ome101> i thought we were discussing `rc`, nevermind
L376[22:26:56] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> Aha excellent so all in all something like
L377[22:26:57] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/efobafosag
L378[22:27:47] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> Ah ok that's good to know then
L379[22:27:55] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> I think robots do have some sort of autorun though
L380[22:28:38] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> Ah `.autorun.lua`
L381[22:28:49] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> Awesome. Thanks very much guys!
L382[22:29:11] <Forec​aster> autorun is for temporary filesystems like floppies I think
L383[22:31:42] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> This doc here says you can put one at the root of any filesystem
L384[22:31:42] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> https://ocdoc.cil.li/tutorial:autorun_options
L385[22:33:09] <Forec​aster> yeah, but I think it's run when the filesystem attaches, I'm not sure it's run when OpenOS starts up, but I may be wrong
L386[22:34:51] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> Hmm let me experiment
L387[22:36:07] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> You are quite right
L388[22:38:28] <Forec​aster> yeah it makes sense, because if you had say two floppy drives connected with an install disk in each you probably don't mean to have each installer run one after the other when OpenOS boots up
L389[22:38:34] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> `rc` and the like say they run at boot time - is there anything that runs once the robot's finished loading everything?
L390[22:39:10] <Forec​aster> `.shrc` should run at the end of the boot
L391[22:41:20] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> Eh fair enough I'll decant my lua code into a different file and call that from .shrc
L392[22:42:27] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> There we go that's doing the trick - thank you very much for your help!
L393[22:42:36] <Forec​aster> no problem
L394[23:30:35] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L395[23:30:36] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forecaster, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 6 hours, 7 minutes and 47 seconds this time. 5 hours, 49 minutes and 3 seconds were wasted! Missed by 18 minutes and 43 seconds!
L396[23:57:59] <lunar_sam> sam is engineering a new archive format again
L397[23:58:03] <lunar_sam> now with random access
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