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<Vaur>
%tonk
L5[00:12:33] <MichiBot> Kapow! Vaur! You
beat Forecaster's previous record of 2 hours, 47 minutes and 16
seconds (By 38 minutes and 6 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L6[00:12:34] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is
3 hours, 25 minutes and 23 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00192
(0.00064 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L9[00:33:23] <Amanda> Elfiiiiii halp, I have
a stupid '00s meme stuck in my head
L10[00:34:53]
<Ocawesome101> @Kristopher38 nice
L11[00:35:11]
<Ocawesome101> lunar_sam: help the same
thing happening to tsuki is happening to cynosure 2
L12[00:36:48] <Amanda> %choose spread the
pain to those who Know or die on this meme
L13[00:36:49] <MichiBot> Amanda: If I had
a gold nugget for every time someone asked me about "spread
the pain to those who Know"
L14[00:37:39] <Amanda> @Ocawesome101
clearly you need help from Captain... Jean-luc Picard... Uss...
Enterprise
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<Ocawesome101> well
L17[00:43:25]
<Ocawesome101> my initial plan for
Cynosure 2 was to have it support both CC and OC - but that adds a
ton of complexity, and is difficult to do properly, and
JackMacWindows is already making a Unix-like kernel for CC
L18[00:45:15]
<Ocawesome101> also, i'm not entirely
certain what to do for `fork` - my current idea is to have it just
grab the relevant section from the file from which it is running
and `load` that as another thread - which means it wouldn't work
unless you use the `exec` system call on the code you're calling -
which is a small price to pay i think
L19[00:45:27]
<Ocawesome101> that could give me correct
:w
L20[00:45:35]
<Ocawesome101> ... been using vim too much
today...
L21[00:45:53]
<Ocawesome101> that could give me mostly
correct posix-like behavior with little overhead
L22[00:46:53]
<Ocawesome101> the other option is to hold
the code in RAM and access it from there, but that would make the
system require much more memory than i'd like
L23[00:49:01] <Amanda> Have you considered
forcing userland to be written entirely in brainfuck
L24[00:49:57]
<Ocawesome101>
no
L25[00:50:46]
<ThePiGuy24> sounds like a great idea and
investment of time
L26[00:51:15]
<Ocawesome101> i mean, writing a brainfuck
interpreter is simple :)
L27[00:51:20]
<Ocawesome101> it's writing the brainfuck
that's the hard part
L28[00:51:57] <Amanda> But you're only
doing the kernel, leave that trouble to userlanddevs
L29[00:52:10]
<Ocawesome101> something i think i am
going to majorly change is: instead of "everything is a
file," everything is a URL
L30[00:52:18]
<Ocawesome101> or rather accessible
through a URL
L31[00:52:29]
<Ocawesome101> similar to Redox, except
it's a monolithic kernel
L32[00:58:23]
<ThePiGuy24> how about: everything is a
variable
L33[00:58:28] <Hawk777> Or just implement
posix_spawn but not fork and exec?
L34[00:58:32]
<ThePiGuy24> all in global scope
L35[01:02:56] <lunar_sam> @Ocawesome i have
an idea
L36[01:03:03] <lunar_sam>
@Ocawesome101
L37[01:03:07] <lunar_sam> just
L38[01:03:11] <lunar_sam> implement a lua
vm in lua
L39[01:03:18] <lunar_sam> :^)
L40[01:03:25] <lunar_sam> compile using
lua
L41[01:04:01]
<lunar_sam>
honestly i'm not sure why i'm making tsuki so complicated, having
it run on a VM and all
L42[01:04:07]
<lunar_sam>
i literally could just do lua-in-lua
L43[01:04:32]
<lunar_sam>
anyways, in tsuki
L44[01:04:37]
<lunar_sam>
everything is a resource fork
L45[01:04:39]
<lunar_sam>
rather
L46[01:04:40]
<lunar_sam>
fs fork
L47[01:12:01] <lunar_sam> fuck it, lua in
lua
L48[01:12:04] <lunar_sam> here we go
L49[01:20:43] <lunar_sam> `local sbx =
string.pack("h", string.pack("H", bx)) -- you
think i'm gonna take the effort to do this in a non-jank way?
lol`
L50[01:20:49] <lunar_sam> Izaya:
@Ocawesome101
L51[01:22:34] <lunar_sam> oh, it's unpack
for the second
L52[01:22:35] <lunar_sam> whatever
L53[01:22:54] <lunar_sam> first
L54[01:22:55] <lunar_sam> whatever
L55[01:22:57] <lunar_sam> sam is having a
Moment
L56[01:28:50] <lunar_sam> cursed idea
L57[01:29:11] <lunar_sam> use debug libs to
figure out which values to pass to instructions
L58[01:47:38] <Amanda> Will debug lib
you
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L61[02:14:00] <Amanda> %remindme 12h set up
myopenhab
L62[02:14:01] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"set up myopenhab" in 12h at 01/13/2022 02:14:00 PM
L64[02:14:55] <lunar_sam> very good
L65[02:15:10] <Amanda> %give MichiBot a
living shotgun
L66[02:15:10] *
MichiBot accepts the living shotgun and adds it to her
inventory
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L68[02:48:26] <lunar_sam> will also release
tsukiko (my lua vm) on it's own soon enough
L69[02:48:32] <lunar_sam> uhhh, is zenith
here?
L70[02:48:43]
<lunar_sam>
@Zen1th you might be interested i nthis
L71[02:48:45]
<lunar_sam>
*in this
L72[02:56:51]
<lunar_sam>
oh yeah @Z0idberg
L73[02:57:14]
<lunar_sam>
tsukiko: a lua vm written in lua :P
L74[02:59:46] <lunar_sam> no compiler, just
VM
L75[03:08:10] <Amanda> %tell Inari look,
your shouldn't try and use your mobile farm plot ship to cheese the
final boss janitor in your high school's graduation exam, you never
know when you'll accidentally tear a hole in space-time causing the
travel shenanigans, totally confusing the casual viewer
L76[03:08:11] <MichiBot> Amanda: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L77[03:08:42] <Amanda> %tell Inari time
travel*
L78[03:08:43] <MichiBot> Amanda: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L79[03:09:58] *
Amanda lays her head on elfi, meows to her about her new crop that
pulls future and past Allies from the time stream to bolster you're
crew
L80[03:10:43] <Amanda> (my dreams continue
to be very weird)
L81[03:10:45] <Amanda> Night nerds
L82[03:54:12] <lunar_sam> wonder i could
use tsukiko to swap stuff in and out
L83[04:54:09]
<Ocawesome101> I composed this over the
past week or so. Anyone got any suggestions for a title?
L84[04:57:43]
<Ocawesome101> …and the audio file didn’t
send. Fuck discord
L85[04:58:26]
<Ocawesome101> A
L86[05:00:05] <Michiyo> %tonk
L87[05:00:05] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Michiyo!
You beat Vaur's previous record of 3 hours, 25 minutes and 23
seconds (By 1 hour, 22 minutes and 9 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L88[05:00:06] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new
record is 4 hours, 47 minutes and 32 seconds! Michiyo also gained
0.00548 (0.00137 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#4. Need 0.01352 more points to pass Forecaster!
L90[05:03:01]
<Ocawesome101> finally, a working
link
L91[05:29:20]
<lunar_sam>
sam made meatball sub with vodka sauce
L92[05:29:21]
<lunar_sam>
it was
L93[05:29:24]
<lunar_sam>
[x] very good
L95[05:40:31]
<Ocawesome101> @lunar_sam how long did
this take you to implement?
L96[05:40:49] <lunar_sam> Ocawesome101:
huh?
L97[05:41:04] <lunar_sam> if you mean
tsukiko, i'm still working on it
L98[05:41:20] <lunar_sam> i was just
telling you i was making it because i realized
L99[05:41:30] <lunar_sam> "the only VM
i need for Tsuki is the Lua 5.3 VM"
L100[05:43:42] <lunar_sam> rather,
@Ocawesome101
L101[05:43:53]
<Ocawesome101> ah
L102[05:44:03]
<Ocawesome101> yes that was what i was
curious about
L103[05:44:14] <lunar_sam> currently
working on bytecode loading
L104[05:44:24] <lunar_sam> once i figure
out how i want to load bytecode, i can make the VM
L105[05:46:21] <lunar_sam> referencing
luadisass for bytecode loading, referencing the lua source for how
the instructions work and all
L106[05:46:25] <lunar_sam> also the ravi
manual
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<basgamer999> is making your own OS
hard?
L113[08:40:32]
<basgamer999> for OC
L114[08:45:37] <Izaya> not terribly
L115[08:45:40] <Izaya> fiddly though
L116[09:29:09]
<Kristopher38> lunar_sam: this is gonna be
a ton of effort, in part because you want to be conforming to the
PUC Lua VM and there's a ton of corner cases to consider, and it's
even more work if you want this to run under OC given its memory
constraints
L117[09:29:33]
<Kristopher38> Believe me, I've
tried
L118[09:30:57]
<Kristopher38> Burned out on the part when
you have to reimplement some of the standard lib in Lua, and even
then the VM still failed a lot of tests
L119[09:32:07]
<Kristopher38> If this is a project to
learn how Lua VM works then it's gonna be great for you, but I
wouldn't expect to get anything more than a proof of concept from
it
L121[10:03:17] <Michiyo> %tonkout
L122[10:03:18] <MichiBot> Bejabbers!
Michiyo! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 47 minutes
and 32 seconds (By 15 minutes and 39 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L123[10:03:19] <MichiBot> Michiyo has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points!
plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.05752, Position #4 Need 0.00052 more points to pass
Forecaster!
L124[10:29:55]
<Forecaster> oh no
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L127[11:06:00]
<Forecaster> %sip
L128[11:06:02] <MichiBot> You drink a
still jumbonium potion (New!). Sitting down suddenly seems like a
really terrible idea.
L129[11:33:50]
<nil>
%tonk
L131[11:34:27]
<nil> %tonk
25CAF
L132[11:34:28] <MichiBot> Hooray! nil!
You beat Michiyo's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 31 minutes
and 10 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L133[11:34:29] <MichiBot> nil's new record
is 1 hour, 31 minutes and 10 seconds! nil also gained 0.00152 tonk
points for stealing the tonk. Position #6. (Overtook CompanionCube)
Need 0.00232 more points to pass Ocawesome101!
L134[11:35:26]
<nil>
%sip
L135[11:35:27] <MichiBot> You drink a
runny transparent potion (New!). nil reboots for an update for 10
minutes.
L136[11:35:48]
<nil>
whaaaaat im not running windows
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L139[12:53:11] <Amanda> Then it'll be
20-30m
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L141[13:37:58]
<Forecaster> %tonk
L142[13:37:58] <MichiBot> By my throth!
Forecaster! You beat nil's previous record of 1 hour, 31 minutes
and 10 seconds (By 32 minutes and 20 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L143[13:37:59] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 2 hours, 3 minutes and 30 seconds! Forecaster also gained
0.00108 (0.00054 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#3. Need 0.00656 more points to pass Kodos!
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L147[14:14:01] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
set up myopenhab
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L152[15:29:01] <Amanda> oh, wait I can use
the master branch in my config
L153[15:29:12] <Amanda> ... and apparently
I never cleaned up another temporary patch
L154[15:30:30] <Amanda> %remindme 3d if
that's fixed, remove the hack in svc-family.nixx
L155[15:30:30] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"if that's fixed, remove the hack in svc-family.nixx" in
3d at 01/16/2022 03:30:30 PM
L156[15:33:29] <Amanda> hrm, looks like
I'm using masterPkgs in a few different places.
L157[15:58:08]
<Forecaster> %sip
L158[15:58:09] <MichiBot> You drink a
hairy ocean potion (New!). Forecaster shrinks by a negligible
amount until they have some bacon.
L159[15:58:23]
<Forecaster> I must find bacon!
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L162[16:24:29] <Amanda> %choose wait for
CI to finish or rebuild now
L163[16:24:30] <MichiBot> Amanda: The
proof is in the pudding. Definitely "rebuild now". Now
please get it out of my pudding.
L164[16:24:57]
<Vaur>
%tonk
L165[16:24:58] <MichiBot> Boom! Vaur! You
beat Forecaster's previous record of 2 hours, 3 minutes and 30
seconds (By 43 minutes and 28 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L166[16:24:59] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 2 hours, 46 minutes and 59 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.00216 (0.00072 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#1.
L167[16:26:07] <Amanda> Nah, I'll let it
continue, it seems to be making progress, according to the logs, so
might as well
L168[16:26:11] <Amanda> %remindme 3h check
on hydra
L169[16:26:12] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"check on hydra" in 3h at 01/13/2022 07:26:11 PM
L170[16:26:56] <lunar_sam> @Kristopher38 I
have a Plan(tm) but i'll need to test a buncha various things out
first
L171[16:27:25] <lunar_sam> i also noticed
ylua loads the instructions into a list of ints, dunno how that
compares memory-wise to just keeping the entire string
L172[16:28:07]
<Kristopher38> Sure, let me know how it
goes, I might be able offer some help
L173[16:28:15] <lunar_sam> ye, no
problem
L174[16:28:30] <lunar_sam> still getting
bytecode decoding down, might ref ylua for that
L175[16:29:34]
<Kristopher38> When it comes to OC I
discovered that strings take up half the space they normally would,
like you'd imagine string "aaaa" would take 4 bytes but
memory usage in OC would be slightly more than 2 bytes
L176[16:30:16]
<Kristopher38> So yeah possible
optimization there but that'd be a miniscule gain compared to
everything else going on
L177[16:31:13]
<Ocawesome101> depends on the size of your
bytecode
L178[16:35:28]
<Kristopher38> I'm generalizing a bit but
lots of small tables (compared to a few large ones) is where most
issues lie
L179[16:37:02] <Amanda> @Kristopher38 is
that measuring a static literal "aaaa" in the source
code? In which case it might be able to just point at the memory
from the source code, though IDK if lua's smart enough for that
kind of optimisation
L180[16:37:41] <lunar_sam> ah
L181[16:37:51]
<Kristopher38> That works for dynamically
created strings as well
L182[16:37:56] <lunar_sam> @Kristopher38
i'm avoiding tables as best i can for that reason
L183[16:38:28]
<Kristopher38> Like
string.rep("a", 2^17)
L184[16:38:39] <lunar_sam> the main ones i
have are the state itself and a few other things here and
there
L185[16:39:17] <lunar_sam> just wish lua
had a more memory efficient way to store data besides just
string.pack/unpacking it
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L188[16:48:45] <Michiyo> %tonk
L189[16:48:45] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Michiyo, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 2 hours, 46
minutes and 59 seconds this time. 23 minutes and 47 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 23 minutes and 11 seconds!
L190[16:48:56] <Michiyo> Oh damn it I was
scrolled up
L191[16:48:58] <Michiyo> ffs
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<Ocawesome101> huh
L201[18:40:33]
<Ocawesome101> haiku is actually pretty
polished
L202[18:40:46]
<Ocawesome101> installing it on my
Latitude right now
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<lunar_sam>
haiku dislikes my P3 machine
L204[18:45:33]
<lunar_sam>
probably because i don't have a graphics card it likes
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L211[19:26:12] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
check on hydra
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<Forecaster> yeesh, I need to lay low for
a while, I've picked up 10 notoriety...
L216[20:30:39]
<Forecaster> oops
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<basgamer999> How is the new oc called
opencomputers 2?
L219[20:39:22]
<basgamer999> It looks way more powerful
than OC in hardware
L220[20:39:53]
<Ocawesome101> it's called opencomputers 2
because that's what sangar called it
L221[20:40:03]
<Ocawesome101> and yes, it emulates risc-v
rather than just running lua
L222[20:40:47]
<basgamer999> Is it the same modder?
L223[20:41:24]
<Forecaster> Sangar is the original
author
L224[20:41:36]
<Forecaster> but OC has been touched by a
lot of people over the years
L225[20:42:48]
<basgamer999> Is OC2 way faster than OC
when it comes to loading stuff because OC is a little slow
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<Kristopher38> define loading stuff
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<Forecaster> OC computers run slow because
there are limits configured in the mod
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<Forecaster> because otherwise a few
computers could claim too many resources from the minecraft
server
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<basgamer999> >Kristopher38: define
loading stuff
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<basgamer999> like loading a image on
screen
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<basgamer999> or that operation system
that was really slow
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<Forecaster> you're using MineOS aren't
you
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<basgamer999> i used one time
L234[20:47:57] <Izaya> inb4 MineOS
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<Kristopher38> OC computers weren't
designed to display pictures in the first place, you can do it
because clever people figured out how
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<Kristopher38> go pester them about how
slow it is
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<basgamer999> is OC2 ?
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L243[21:07:21] <Amanda> %choose rain box
or wait
L244[21:07:21] <MichiBot> Amanda: Haven't
you always gone with "rain box"? Hm, maybe not.
L245[21:07:27] <Amanda> sounds good
L246[21:07:44]
<Vaur>
%tonkout
L247[21:07:44] <MichiBot> Eureka! Vaur!
You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 46 minutes and 59
seconds (By 1 hour, 31 minutes and 59 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L248[21:07:45] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.12815,
Position #1
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<Ocawesome101> clap I clap offended clap
my clap conservative clap friend clap
L250[21:16:39]
<Forecaster> how unfortunate
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<Kristopher38> I bet they feel offended
now
L252[21:23:25]
<Kristopher38> What are you gonna do
L253[21:25:18]
<ThePiGuy24> revoke their license to be
offended
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<lunar_sam>
hit em with the ❄️
L255[21:26:19]
<Kristopher38> @Ocawesome101 do you have
snow in your part of the US?
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L258[21:41:19] <Amanda> I wonder if it's a
heisenbridge thing or an element thing that lunar_sam's message
with a ❄️ made snow fall in the window
L259[21:41:25] <Amanda> ... that answers
that
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L276[22:09:11] <Lizzy> m1cr0man: please
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L279[22:15:03] <Lizzy> %tempban m1cr0man
24h constant leave and joining
L280[22:15:12] <Lizzy> %timedban m1cr0man
24h constant leave and joining
L281[22:15:16]
<Forecaster> tban
L282[22:15:23] <Lizzy> %tban m1cr0man 24h
constant leave and joining
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L284[22:15:30] <Lizzy> thanks
L285[22:16:01]
<Forecaster> I will add those as
aliases
L286[22:21:27] <Forecaster> %restart
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L290[22:22:09] <Forecaster>
%timedban
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<Ocawesome101> @Kristopher38 yes
L292[22:22:28]
<Ocawesome101> we have snow
L293[22:22:33] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
Invalid arguments. %timed ban Nick:string [Time:string
Reason:string]
L294[22:22:38]
<Ocawesome101> whether they feel offended
i do not know
L295[22:24:59]
<Ocawesome101> i did write a hopefully
reasonably calm and sensible response to their complaint
L296[22:28:18] <Michiyo> %tonk
L297[22:28:18] <MichiBot> Goshhawk!
Michiyo! You beat Vaur's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 20
minutes and 33 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L298[22:28:19] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new
record is 1 hour, 20 minutes and 33 seconds! Michiyo also gained
0.00134 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need
0.00026 more points to pass Forecaster!
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<lunar_sam>
it's not even done yet
L301[22:47:56] <Amanda> They might use the
star feature as a bookmarking thing
L302[22:50:05]
<lunar_sam>
i mean, fair enough, but still
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<lunar_sam>
it's not even done yet
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<ComputerCoco> Or does the server rack
itself somehow rate limite the servers? Cause it has a Relay built
in?
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<Kristopher38> Ultimately you're limited
by the card itself as sending a message takes one tick iirc
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<ComputerCoco> >Kristopher38:
Ultimately you're limited by the card itself as sending a message
takes one tic…
L311[23:29:36]
<ComputerCoco> Thats fine by me, but I'm
more worried about receiving messages,
L312[23:29:36]
<ComputerCoco> Like if I have 100 messages
sent on a network in one tick, will my network card get all of
them?
L313[23:29:37]
<ComputerCoco> If it went through a relay,
then definitely not, but what if the network card is directly
connect to the wired network like a server?
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L315[23:46:27] <dequbed> Hmm
L316[23:46:56] <dequbed> @Forecaster can I
make Michibot tell me my tells w/o chatting in the room it was sent
in?
L317[23:52:46] <Michiyo> It's a limitation
of the system tell was built on. I could possibly change it to
GenericMessageEvent as that gets fired for both Channel and Query
messages, but when tell was originally written that didn't have a
handler.
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L321[23:59:27] <Michiyo> dequbed, ^
L322[23:59:38] <Michiyo> %restart
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L324[23:59:41] <Michiyo> derp
L325[23:59:44] <dequbed> Michiyo: Thanks
<3
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