L1[00:30:10] <Amanda> The Binsutry of
Memperature
L2[00:30:28] <Amanda> oh, Board of
Meterologists?
L3[00:35:11] <Amanda> or... whatever the B
in FBI is, my brain's drawing a complet eblank
L4[00:35:32] <Amanda> ( on how to spell it
)
L5[00:41:31] 
<Vaur>
Bureau
<Vaur>
BureauL6[00:42:42] <Izaya> ^
L7[00:42:50] <Izaya> bureau of
meteorology
L8[00:49:02] <Amanda> interesting
L9[00:49:52] <Amanda> I swear my spelling's
gotten worse as I've aged. I know I butchered meteorlogists and I
couldn't even begin to guess at bureau
L10[00:50:20] <Amanda> I blame the
foxes.
L11[00:50:24] <Amanda> It's clearly their
faults
L12[00:50:47] <Amanda> %choose laptop nap
time?
L13[00:50:47] <MichiBot> Amanda: After
all, why shouldn't you "laptop nap time"?
L14[00:50:53] <Amanda> Sounds good
L15[00:51:07] *
Amanda flops down around Elfi, vegs out to a RE VIllage
playthrough
L16[00:56:10] <Ocawesome101> Amanda:
meteorologists
<Ocawesome101> Amanda:
meteorologistsL17[00:58:01] <Amanda> Honka-lonka
dingadoos, got it
L18[01:03:12] <Amanda> It's apparently -9C
here
L19[01:05:25] <Michiyo> It's 10.5 c
here
L20[01:18:06] <ThePiGuy24> running pocket edition 0.7.1
on my pinephone through waydroid because idk https://tinyurl.com/y3wpod7u
<ThePiGuy24> running pocket edition 0.7.1
on my pinephone through waydroid because idk https://tinyurl.com/y3wpod7uL21[01:19:47] ⇦
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L22[01:20:02] <Amanda> Izaya: have you
ordered your keyboard for the pine yet?
L23[01:20:08] <Ocawesome101> @ThePiGuy24 nice!
<Ocawesome101> @ThePiGuy24 nice!L24[01:20:14] <Izaya> nope
L25[01:20:17] <Izaya> I really should
tho
L26[01:20:33] <ThePiGuy24> mine is (supposedly) arriving
on the 13th
<ThePiGuy24> mine is (supposedly) arriving
on the 13thL27[01:20:54] <Amanda> I haven't checked
yet, got mine a couple days ago
L28[01:21:05] <Amanda> Rather,
ordered
L29[01:22:11] <ThePiGuy24> it feels wrong running mcpe
at this high of a res, being as previously i have been running it
on my first phone from 2011, with a 2.5 inch, 320x240 display
<ThePiGuy24> it feels wrong running mcpe
at this high of a res, being as previously i have been running it
on my first phone from 2011, with a 2.5 inch, 320x240 displayL30[01:22:26] <ThePiGuy24> which is also where i pulled
this apk from
<ThePiGuy24> which is also where i pulled
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L33[01:27:25] <Z0idberg>
%roll 5d6
<Z0idberg>
%roll 5d6L34[01:27:26] <MichiBot> [4,1,4,6,2] =>
17
L35[01:39:42] <Amanda> %roll 10d1
L36[01:39:42] <MichiBot>
[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1] => 10
L37[01:39:51] <Amanda> Surprising
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L42[02:43:44] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL43[02:43:44] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! Vaur!
You beat Michiyo's previous record of 3 hours, 2 minutes and 51
seconds (By 1 hour, 36 minutes and 25 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L44[02:43:45] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record
is 4 hours, 39 minutes and 16 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00644
(0.00161 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L45[02:44:59] <ThePiGuy24> https://thepiguy24.net/art/ did a thing, in case you
want to see all of my art in once place and some of the story
behind each
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dungus is join, dungus say dungus, dungus is leave, dungus does not
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L54[04:36:29] *
Amanda donates a totally new lämp that Elfi def. Didn't have in her
collection before to elfi, it's a burning ball of hydrogen and
helium, and what luck, the lämp vault has a containment chamber
already for just such a thing! And it's empty!
L55[04:37:37] *
Amanda tucks in around elfi, zzzmews, totally convinced Elfi is
none the wiser that she borrowed the lämp
L56[04:40:00] <Amanda> I love how a light
switch I bought last night came before the USB-c cable I bought
Sunday night
L57[04:40:15] <Amanda> The USB-c cable says
Friday
L58[04:40:27] <Amanda> Such Amazon, very
prime
L59[04:41:23] <Amanda> Oh well, night
nerds
L60[04:43:28] <Michiyo> Night
L61[04:46:35] <Ocawesome101> goodnight amanda
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L63[05:07:59] <Izaya> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/R8Qi.png
L64[05:08:02] <Izaya> you guys like
graphs?
L65[05:19:39] <Michiyo> Neat
L66[05:24:21] <Michiyo> Wish I had the
time, and knowledge to pull that stuff off
L67[05:30:32] <Izaya> this is a commercial
system, I just did the plumbing to hook it up to grafana
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L87[08:16:28] <Michiyo> %tonk
L88[08:16:28] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket!
Michiyo! You beat Vaur's previous record of 4 hours, 39 minutes
and 16 seconds (By 53 minutes and 27 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L89[08:16:29] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new
record is 5 hours, 32 minutes and 44 seconds! Michiyo also gained
0.00445 (0.00089 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#4. Need 0.01621 more points to pass Forecaster!
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L94[10:18:41] <CompanionCube> Izaya: 'Red
Hat / Fedora Anaconda Installer Shifting To A Web Based UI'\
L95[10:18:56] <Izaya> it probably suits
their usecase
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L98[12:22:07] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL99[12:22:07] <MichiBot> You drink a
prickly nectar potion (New!). Vaur is now Borg until they say the
word "Awesome".
L100[13:00:58] <Ashirg>
%sip
<Ashirg>
%sipL101[13:00:58] <MichiBot> You drink a
smooth lime potion (New!). The sun turns into a giant baby face for
a second. It's horrific.
L102[13:01:51] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL103[13:01:51] <MichiBot> You drink a
fragrant iron potion (New!). A bard behind Vaur suddenly stops
playing. They were most likely eaten by a monster.
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L106[13:34:54] <Z0idberg>
Izaya: Are you using one of those power probes that can hook into
the ADC of a Raspberry Pi or something?
<Z0idberg>
Izaya: Are you using one of those power probes that can hook into
the ADC of a Raspberry Pi or something?L107[13:39:16] <Z0idberg>
@Enthalpy has his Poweredge at my house and we've been looking into
something to chart the power usage when it is running, since our
power bill was like $200 last month
<Z0idberg>
@Enthalpy has his Poweredge at my house and we've been looking into
something to chart the power usage when it is running, since our
power bill was like $200 last monthL108[13:39:46] <Z0idberg>
I have 50/50 fiber and it's super reliable (so far) so it's not a
bad place to run it
<Z0idberg>
I have 50/50 fiber and it's super reliable (so far) so it's not a
bad place to run itL109[13:39:52] <Z0idberg>
plus I have generator power
<Z0idberg>
plus I have generator powerL110[13:39:56]
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L111[13:40:11] <Z0idberg>
(I also have a static IP and a bridged ONT)
<Z0idberg>
(I also have a static IP and a bridged ONT)L112[13:50:16] <Amanda> I have a
functionally static IP
L113[13:50:38] <Amanda> I think it's only
changed once or twice, and the one I'm sure about was after a 3-day
power outage at my home
L114[13:57:31] <Izaya> S3: it's a
commercial system that I'm scraping data from
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L116[15:04:49] <dequbed> Amanda: Well see
you're over 20 so you're old so it's probably just Alzheimers
making your spelling be worse :P
L117[15:46:44] <Amanda> :P
L118[15:47:08] *
Amanda turns 31 in a few months. Absolutely ancient!
L119[15:52:09] <Forecaster> Pff, that's nothing, I'm 32
this year
<Forecaster> Pff, that's nothing, I'm 32
this yearL120[15:52:37] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL121[15:52:38] <MichiBot> You drink a
cloudy grass potion (New!). When Forecaster brings the bottle down
they see A Pussplum colored plastic flamingo. It stares into their
soul.
L122[15:58:35] *
dequbed prepares to purge Amandas public key from her
servers
L123[15:58:41] <dequbed> trust NOBODY over
30!
L124[16:07:42] <ThePiGuy24> %s/3//
<ThePiGuy24> %s/3//L125[16:07:43] <MichiBot> <dequbed>
trust NOBODY over 0!
L126[16:07:49] <ThePiGuy24> only trust the unborn
<ThePiGuy24> only trust the unbornL127[16:08:21] <Izaya> they tell no
lies
L128[16:09:16] <dequbed> @ThePiGuy24 no I
meant 30!. Do not trust the eldrich older than the universe.
L129[16:09:47] <ThePiGuy24> well 30! > 0 so yeah thats
implied
<ThePiGuy24> well 30! > 0 so yeah thats
impliedL130[16:11:02] <dequbed> Well no but you
can trust me. I wouldn't never hurt nobody!
L131[16:11:19] <Ocawesome101> 30! =
2.652528598121911e32
<Ocawesome101> 30! =
2.652528598121911e32L132[16:13:56] <Vaur>
%tonkout
<Vaur>
%tonkoutL133[16:13:57] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins!
Vaur! You beat Michiyo's previous record of 5 hours, 32 minutes
and 44 seconds (By 2 hours, 24 minutes and 44 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L134[16:13:58] <MichiBot> Vaur has stolen
the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points!
plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50%
because stealing) Current score: 0.11407. Position #1
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L137[16:52:12] <ThePiGuy24> bleh pinephone keyboard
delivery has been delayed
<ThePiGuy24> bleh pinephone keyboard
delivery has been delayedL138[16:53:06] <Sangar>
>Amanda: I appologise <@159080152154767361> and
<@96665277030203392> if I divulged…
<Sangar>
>Amanda: I appologise <@159080152154767361> and
<@96665277030203392> if I divulged…L139[16:53:06] <Sangar>
all good, I don't think there's anything secret to divulge there,
really. just not much talked about 🙂
<Sangar>
all good, I don't think there's anything secret to divulge there,
really. just not much talked about 🙂L140[17:16:43] <Elfi> Huh what, what's
going on
L141[17:18:19] <Ocawesome101> Elfi: https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/view?chan=oc&log=2022-01-11.log#L134
<Ocawesome101> Elfi: https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/view?chan=oc&log=2022-01-11.log#L134L142[17:19:22] <Amanda> Elfi: I got cranky
and went on a rant about the kids constantly complaining about OC2
not being OC1, and how that was never really the plan for 1.13+
anyway
L143[17:19:32] <Elfi> Ahh
L144[17:20:32] <Amanda> "... the
lemur grinning like he just invented sexual intercourse and was
about to inform the galaxy of it's methods."
L145[17:21:44] <Michiyo> I
recognize First Contact when I see it. lol
<Michiyo> I
recognize First Contact when I see it. lolL146[17:22:22] <Izaya> OC1 not getting
updated to newer versions is just encouragement to play other games
tbh
L147[17:32:14] <dequbed> @Sangar
completely unrelated but since you're into emulating fucked
architectures, wanna hear the tale of the ISA with the 256-*byte*
`char` type? :P
L148[17:32:30] <Hawk777> I have no idea if
Sangar does but I do!
L149[17:32:50] <Izaya> ah yes, 16
characters to a page
L150[17:33:00] <dequbed> lol.
"page"
L151[17:33:07] <dequbed> It's just
char
L152[17:33:11] <dequbed> Everything is
exactly one char
L153[17:33:12] <Izaya> it's all just
char?
L154[17:33:20] <dequbed> Yes.
L155[17:33:46] <Ariri>
>Michiyo: I recognize First Contact when I see it. lol
<Ariri>
>Michiyo: I recognize First Contact when I see it. lolL156[17:33:47] <Ariri>
haha
<Ariri>
hahaL157[17:33:59] <dequbed> Int? char.
`unsized long long`? char.
L158[17:34:12] <dequbed>
s/unsized/unsigned
L159[17:34:12] <MichiBot> <dequbed>
Int? char. `unsigned long long`? char.
L160[17:34:12] <Ocawesome101> what godforsaken ISA Is
this
<Ocawesome101> what godforsaken ISA Is
thisL161[17:34:38] <dequbed> Ethereum
"smart" contracts.
L162[17:34:38] <Forecaster> it's chars all the way
down
<Forecaster> it's chars all the way
downL163[17:34:58] <dequbed> Somebody wanted
to make a llvm target for it
L164[17:36:09] <Ocawesome101> llvm target for... a
cryptocurrency?
<Ocawesome101> llvm target for... a
cryptocurrency?L165[17:36:16] <dequbed> Nah
L166[17:36:30] <dequbed> for a programming
language running on the blockchain also used by a
cryptocurrency
L167[17:37:13] <dequbed> You know, if you
*really* want to tax your new shiny 256-core CPUs to the max for
several seconds to find out what 2 + 2 is.
L168[17:37:29] <Ocawesome101> ah
<Ocawesome101> ahL169[17:37:44] <Ocawesome101> blockchain programming
language already sounds cursed enough
<Ocawesome101> blockchain programming
language already sounds cursed enoughL170[17:39:02] <dequbed> No but imagine!
The *blockchain agrees* that 2 + 2 is 4!
L171[17:39:09] <dequbed> Can you imagine
the possibilities?!
L172[17:39:58] <Sangar>
.-.
<Sangar>
.-.L173[17:40:02] <dequbed> <3
L174[17:41:29] <Sangar>
sometimes i think blockchain is like the turbo on the trajectory of
software getting slower to overcompensate hardware getting
faster
<Sangar>
sometimes i think blockchain is like the turbo on the trajectory of
software getting slower to overcompensate hardware getting
fasterL175[17:42:27] <Izaya> haha
L176[17:42:48] <dequbed> Also fun fact
that ISA can have a totally standards-conforming C implementation!
*Nowhere* in the C spec does it say anything on the upper limit for
the sizes of int/char/long etc. Only that int ≤ long ≤ long long.
Which, for char = long = long long is correct.
L177[17:42:50] <MGR> I've
said it before and I'll say it again. I just want to buy a new
GPU
<MGR> I've
said it before and I'll say it again. I just want to buy a new
GPUL178[17:42:59] <Izaya> that'll be
$2500
L179[17:43:12] <Sangar>
gotta love c :3
<Sangar>
gotta love c :3L180[17:43:31] <dequbed> No, Fuck C.
L181[17:43:42] <Sangar>
rude
<Sangar>
rudeL182[17:43:54] <rashdanml>
C is life
<rashdanml>
C is lifeL183[17:44:01] <Hawk777> (and they have
minimum sizes, but yeah, no maximums!)
L184[17:44:04] <ThePiGuy24> atleast ask it out on a date
first
<ThePiGuy24> atleast ask it out on a date
firstL185[17:44:06] <Ocawesome101> that action you name is
impossible, since C is a programming language
<Ocawesome101> that action you name is
impossible, since C is a programming languageL186[17:44:28] <dequbed> Hawk777: Not even
that. Just minimum storable values.
L187[17:45:21] <Hawk777> Eh, the standard
says CHAR_BIT must be at least 8.
L188[17:45:41] <dequbed> @Sangar I'd feel
bad but C has ruined so many things that for some reason I don't.
And I made decent money thanks to other people writing C :P
L189[17:45:58] <Hawk777> For the rest of
them yes, it’s only a minimum required range of values, but you
can’t very well have INT_MIN be ≤−32767, INT_MAX be ≥32767, and int
have fewer than 16 bits.
L190[17:46:39] <dequbed> Hawk777: Yes. But
it doesn't say that you have to use consecutive bits for anything,
only that you have to store those numbers. Watch some cryptobro
coming up with a contract language where long long uses every bit,
long every second bit, int every 4th and so on.
L191[17:46:47] <Izaya> %flip systemd
L192[17:46:47] <MichiBot> Izaya:
(╯°□°）╯pɯǝʇsʎs
L193[17:46:54] <Hawk777> Oh sure, you’re
allowed padding bits and stuff like that.
L194[17:47:07] <Hawk777> But still,
minimum size: you can’t have an int that’s *less* than 16
bits.
L195[17:47:34] <dequbed> I'm not sure if C
even specifically goes for bits. Can you have a C using trinary?
:D
L196[17:47:51] <Hawk777> Well it’s got the
word “bit” scattered all over throughout the standard.
L197[17:48:17] <Hawk777> And it does say,
for unsigned integers, “If there are N value bits, each bit shall
represent a different power of 2 between 1 and 2^(N−1)”
L198[17:49:12] <dequbed> It's also
(nowadays) written with the assumption of a byte meaning 8
consecutive binary bits and a char being exactly a byte but Cray
still ignores that.
L199[17:49:45] <Hawk777> People really
ought to use uint8_t there.
L200[17:50:01] <Sangar>
@dequbed hah, I see. I rarely touch C, besides for fun hobby
projects, so I guess I'm just less biased ^^;
<Sangar>
@dequbed hah, I see. I rarely touch C, besides for fun hobby
projects, so I guess I'm just less biased ^^;L201[17:50:11] <dequbed> Oh yeah! If
anybody ever offers you to write code for a Cray either a) run away
b) charge triple because they ain't gonna find anybody else stupid
enough :P
L202[17:50:27] <Hawk777> Hah!
L203[17:50:29] <Izaya> "my rates
start at $200 an hour and double every hour"
L204[17:51:31] <Sangar>
alternatively couple the rates to blood pressure
<Sangar>
alternatively couple the rates to blood pressureL205[17:51:47] <Izaya> oooh, less obvious
but same effect
L206[17:52:27] <dequbed> @Sangar C is fine
for a lot of things but it's hard to get right and the complexity
of it grows exponentially with the size of your codebase. Sure,
your hobby project is fine in C. But some companies pay several
grand for custom compilers emulating bugs in 50 year old compilers
of long defunct companies because half their codebase implicitly
relies on those code generation bugs.
L207[17:52:59] <Sangar>
that does sound traumatizing
<Sangar>
that does sound traumatizingL208[17:53:43] <dequbed> It also sounds
like a good way to make decent money if you're willing to lose all
trust in our modern day computing infrastructure :P
L209[17:54:00] <Sangar>
😄
<Sangar>
😄L210[17:54:55] ⇦
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L213[18:02:16] <dequbed> @Sangar the less
obvious but much more fun advantage of that situation is that you
have this large serious black tie company and then there's the pink
haired nerd girl riding a skateboard indoors with a hourly rates in
the three digits that can't ever be fired because if she leaves the
servers processing millions of dollars a day fall over
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L214[18:04:27] <Amanda> dequbed: I think
one or two of the C++ people I know on twitter were seriously
considering putting a proposal forward so that 256-byte everything
wouldn't be valid C++ spec
L215[18:04:41] <Amanda> s/valid/valid in
the/
L216[18:04:42] <MichiBot> <Amanda>
dequbed: I think one or two of the C++ people I know on twitter
were seriously considering putting a proposal forward so that
256-byte everything wouldn't be valid in the C++ spec
L217[18:04:49] <dequbed> yes please.
L218[18:07:16] <Sangar>
@dequbed hahaha, that's a wonderful image :3
<Sangar>
@dequbed hahaha, that's a wonderful image :3L219[18:21:06] <dequbed> @Sangar not
software dev but a friend of my has a fun story how she was driven
through the office riding a cart of old replaced servers swinging a
rainbow pride flag with everybody just looking on bamboozled
because the shortest path from the data center to the storage room
was through the main office. I aspire to be as blunt as her one day
:P
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L221[18:31:55] <Forecaster> I want one of these, but
they're so expensive :x
<Forecaster> I want one of these, but
they're so expensive :xL223[18:32:31] <Forecaster> it's not even the most
expensive one
<Forecaster> it's not even the most
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L226[18:42:16] <Amanda> OKay, here you go,
Forecaster https://tinyurl.com/y6nj54mn
L227[18:42:25] <Amanda> It's a jpeg of a
server rack
L228[18:42:35] <Amanda> lightly
used.
L229[18:50:00] <Sangar>
wouldn't want to see the electricity bill :x
<Sangar>
wouldn't want to see the electricity bill :xL230[18:50:19] <Forecaster> it wouldn't change
<Forecaster> it wouldn't changeL231[18:50:31] <Forecaster> it's just a case, I would
just put my existing storage server into it
<Forecaster> it's just a case, I would
just put my existing storage server into itL232[18:50:44] <Sangar>
ahhh
<Sangar>
ahhhL233[18:50:53] <Forecaster> it's currently an old tower
case with harddrives loose on the floor
<Forecaster> it's currently an old tower
case with harddrives loose on the floorL234[18:51:24] <dequbed> Also servers are
pretty power efficient. Electricity is by far the most expensive
part of housing in a DC
L235[18:51:48] <Forecaster> I might not need 24 drive
slots though, the 16-bays would probably do
<Forecaster> I might not need 24 drive
slots though, the 16-bays would probably doL236[18:53:08] <Forecaster> it currently only has 4
drives, and I have 4 more to put in
<Forecaster> it currently only has 4
drives, and I have 4 more to put inL237[18:53:30] <Forecaster> that's well within 16, I'm
pretty sure, I don't know if I can be trusted with the maths
<Forecaster> that's well within 16, I'm
pretty sure, I don't know if I can be trusted with the mathsL238[18:53:38] <Forecaster> I might need Michiyo to help
with that
<Forecaster> I might need Michiyo to help
with thatL239[18:54:35] <dequbed> @Forecaster If
you already have the hardware, I've seen 3HU cases by e.g.
Inter-Tech with 12 3.5" drive bays cost around 100€. Depending
on what you need those may be a good solution
L240[18:57:29] <Forecaster> I'm looking at an inter tech
one now actually, a 16 bay 4U one
<Forecaster> I'm looking at an inter tech
one now actually, a 16 bay 4U oneL241[18:59:09] <Michiyo> @Forecaster whats
up?
L242[18:59:25] <Forecaster> 4 + 4 < 16 right?
<Forecaster> 4 + 4 < 16 right?L243[18:59:41] <Michiyo> %lua 4 + 4 <
16
L244[18:59:41] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
Invalid arguments. %lua Snippet:string
L245[18:59:43] <Michiyo> damn
L246[18:59:44] <Michiyo> lol
L247[18:59:57] <Michiyo> In theory? for
small enough values of 4 and large enough values for 16, then
yes!
L248[19:00:15] <Michiyo> %lua 4 + 4 <
16
L249[19:00:15] <MichiBot> true
L250[19:00:21] <Michiyo> Ah, yes i had a
space... lol
L251[19:00:28] <Forecaster> okay good, just wanted to
make sure!
<Forecaster> okay good, just wanted to
make sure!L252[19:00:32] <Forecaster> :P
<Forecaster> :PL253[19:01:12] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL254[19:01:13] <MichiBot> Awesome!
Forecaster! You beat Vaur's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours,
47 minutes and 16 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L255[19:01:15] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 2 hours, 47 minutes and 16 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00279 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need
0.00764 more points to pass Kodos!
L257[19:01:50] <Forecaster> This is a bit more modest,
but still good
<Forecaster> This is a bit more modest,
but still goodL258[19:02:01] <Forecaster> going to have to talk to my
boss about this one tomorrow
<Forecaster> going to have to talk to my
boss about this one tomorrowL259[19:02:38] <Forecaster> it's not for work, but not
having to pay sales-tax is nice
<Forecaster> it's not for work, but not
having to pay sales-tax is niceL260[19:07:47] <Forecaster> then I have to make a rack
for it to go in, but that's a problem for later
<Forecaster> then I have to make a rack
for it to go in, but that's a problem for laterL261[19:33:18] <Michiyo> Have you seen my
rack?
L262[19:33:32] <Michiyo> Gigitty
L263[19:33:45] <Forecaster> yes, your professional IKEA
one :P
<Forecaster> yes, your professional IKEA
one :PL264[19:34:00] <Michiyo> Nah, I replaced
it!
L265[19:34:08] <Forecaster> oh, I haven't seen that
<Forecaster> oh, I haven't seen thatL267[19:35:52] <Forecaster> oh neat
<Forecaster> oh neatL268[19:36:12] <Forecaster> I'm going to do something
similar
<Forecaster> I'm going to do something
similarL269[19:36:22] <Forecaster> except I'll probably paint it
black :P
<Forecaster> except I'll probably paint it
black :PL270[19:36:40] <Michiyo>
Didn't have any paint handy and I REALLY wanted to get the servers
out of my bedroom
<Michiyo>
Didn't have any paint handy and I REALLY wanted to get the servers
out of my bedroomL271[19:36:54] <Michiyo>
it was STUPID hot last summer in my room, so I had to do
something
<Michiyo>
it was STUPID hot last summer in my room, so I had to do
somethingL272[19:37:51] <Forecaster> well my servers are not in my
bedroom to begin with, so I'm good there
<Forecaster> well my servers are not in my
bedroom to begin with, so I'm good thereL273[19:38:17] <Michiyo>
Yeaaah I had 2 sitting at the foot of my bed in that IKEA
"rack" lol
<Michiyo>
Yeaaah I had 2 sitting at the foot of my bed in that IKEA
"rack" lolL274[19:38:28] <Michiyo>
600 watts of heat output in a ALREADY hot room = bad.
<Michiyo>
600 watts of heat output in a ALREADY hot room = bad.L275[19:39:12] <Michiyo> I DID have to
shut them down twice as it got too hot in the garage, but atleast I
wasn't dying lol
L276[19:56:35] <CompanionCube> dequbed: my
preferred example is two's complement finally being made mandatory
in C++20
L277[20:05:15] <dequbed> CompanionCube:
Yeah, that's a fun part. But as long as we have size_t shit's
fucked regardless. C++ needs to kick out the C compatability to
really shine.
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%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL280[20:47:09] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Vaur,
you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 2 hours, 47
minutes and 16 seconds this time. 1 hour, 45 minutes and 55 seconds
were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 1 minute and 20 seconds!
L281[20:55:19] <Michiyo> whelp lol
L282[20:55:34] <Michiyo> There goes my 2PM
plans heh
L283[20:57:18] <Vaur> my
bad
<Vaur> my
badL284[20:57:40] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL285[20:57:41] <MichiBot> You drink a
simulated grass potion (New!). Forecaster's hair turn gold until
they have an eroded potion.
L286[20:57:51] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL287[20:57:51] <MichiBot> You drink a wild
orange potion (New!). Vaur's favourite hair suddenly
disintegrates.
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L289[21:05:28] <Forecaster> just have to find some
time-shifting potions
<Forecaster> just have to find some
time-shifting potionsL290[21:11:39] <Michiyo> %sip
L291[21:11:39] <MichiBot> You drink a dull
ruby potion (New!). The ghost of a plant haunts Michiyo for 2
hours.
L292[21:11:43] <Michiyo> ffs
L293[21:12:09] <Forecaster> a haunting has been
planted
<Forecaster> a haunting has been
plantedL294[21:14:27] <Amanda> hrm, I could have
sworn I recently did a nix-collect-garbage, but this is taking
awhile, and my /nix filled up apparently
L295[21:18:41] <Vaur>
damn, I don't know if this pack has an outdated version but rftools
have been quite the pain in 1.16 😦
<Vaur>
damn, I don't know if this pack has an outdated version but rftools
have been quite the pain in 1.16 😦L296[21:19:52] <Porkey27>
@everyone
<Porkey27>
@everyoneL297[21:19:52] <Porkey27>
Who is first? :)
<Porkey27>
Who is first? :)L299[21:20:05] <Vaur> go
away stupid bot
<Vaur> go
away stupid botL300[21:20:13] <ThePiGuy24> wow an amazingly real
link
<ThePiGuy24> wow an amazingly real
linkL301[21:20:17] <ThePiGuy24> discrode
<ThePiGuy24> discrodeL302[21:20:21] <Lizzy-chan> :eveypat:
<Lizzy-chan> :eveypat:L303[21:20:21] <Corded> *
<Evey-Chan> purrs
L304[21:20:24] <ThePiGuy24> my favourite chat app
<ThePiGuy24> my favourite chat appL305[21:20:45] <Vaur> can
you believe there is actual people falling for those shit
<Vaur> can
you believe there is actual people falling for those shitL306[21:20:55] <Lizzy-chan> for those on discord (irc
still has the history), someone sent one of those nitro scam links
and Evey insta deleted it
<Lizzy-chan> for those on discord (irc
still has the history), someone sent one of those nitro scam links
and Evey insta deleted itL307[21:21:16] <Lizzy-chan> also dear god their profile
picture
<Lizzy-chan> also dear god their profile
pictureL308[21:22:06] <ThePiGuy24> didnt even see the message
for long enough to see it
<ThePiGuy24> didnt even see the message
for long enough to see itL309[21:22:13] <Lizzy-chan> Evey is speed
<Lizzy-chan> Evey is speedL310[21:22:14] <ThePiGuy24> all i can see is what is left
in irc
<ThePiGuy24> all i can see is what is left
in ircL311[21:22:27] <Vaur> I
saw the ping to everyone and the link
<Vaur> I
saw the ping to everyone and the linkL312[21:22:41] <Vaur> knew
immediately it was a scam
<Vaur> knew
immediately it was a scamL313[21:23:08] <Lizzy-chan> yup, more of the in-server
ones seem to be going around, which is why i coded Evey to just
insta-delete them
<Lizzy-chan> yup, more of the in-server
ones seem to be going around, which is why i coded Evey to just
insta-delete themL314[21:23:31] <Lizzy-chan> and she also replicates the
ban to other servers she's in if the owner opts into that
feature
<Lizzy-chan> and she also replicates the
ban to other servers she's in if the owner opts into that
featureL315[21:23:45] <Forecaster> but what if one is
legit
<Forecaster> but what if one is
legitL316[21:23:55] <Izaya> dischode
L317[21:24:04] <Vaur> I
feel like corded should skip over those messages so irc people
don't get the link
<Vaur> I
feel like corded should skip over those messages so irc people
don't get the linkL318[21:24:07] <Lizzy-chan> if it's a legit link, it wont
be on her list of baddomains
<Lizzy-chan> if it's a legit link, it wont
be on her list of baddomainsL319[21:24:50] <Amanda> CLick now on this
link discored.bandcamp.gov/nitro for free nitro!
L320[21:24:54] <Lizzy-chan> There's not really any way to
easily do that without Corded itself also having the list and
selectively choosing which messages to send or not
<Lizzy-chan> There's not really any way to
easily do that without Corded itself also having the list and
selectively choosing which messages to send or notL321[21:25:09] <Corded> *
<Lizzy-chan> bans Amanda for scaaaaaaaaaaaaam
L322[21:25:28] <Forecaster> I mean, it's not like people
on irc would care about Nitro anyway :P
<Forecaster> I mean, it's not like people
on irc would care about Nitro anyway :PL323[21:25:30] <Amanda> D: I just want to
give free discored nitro!
L324[21:25:31] <ThePiGuy24> i mean, corded having a list
of blocked domains doesnt sound like a bad idea
<ThePiGuy24> i mean, corded having a list
of blocked domains doesnt sound like a bad ideaL325[21:26:38] <Amanda> I guess I havn't
cleaned up the nix store in awhile: 73485 store paths deleted,
158869.98 MiB freed
L326[21:26:43] <Lizzy-chan> perhaps, but for the most
part we don't get many scam spammers in here linking bad
domains
<Lizzy-chan> perhaps, but for the most
part we don't get many scam spammers in here linking bad
domainsL327[21:26:47] <Vaur>
regular irc users will be fine, but what if we get one of those
yeshi user and a bot post the link
<Vaur>
regular irc users will be fine, but what if we get one of those
yeshi user and a bot post the linkL328[21:27:00] <Lizzy-chan> yeshi users?
<Lizzy-chan> yeshi users?L329[21:27:06] <Amanda> %yeshi
L330[21:27:07] <MichiBot> Hi, welcome to
the opencomputers IRC channel. If you just connected from
minecraft, yes this is a real chat. There are people here, but dont
expect people to engage with someone who just says "hi"
or similar, were (usually) pretty busy.
L331[21:27:34] <Lizzy-chan> ah, those ones will need to
be dealt with irc side and the message probably manually deleted
here
<Lizzy-chan> ah, those ones will need to
be dealt with irc side and the message probably manually deleted
hereL332[21:27:42] <ThePiGuy24> Amanda: 158kMiB??
<ThePiGuy24> Amanda: 158kMiB??L333[21:27:53] <Amanda> %command edit
yeshi Hi, welcome to the opencomputers IRC channel. If you just
connected from minecraft, yes this is a real chat. There are people
here, but don't expect people to engage with someone who just says
"hi" or similar, we're (usually) pretty busy.
L334[21:27:53] <MichiBot> Amanda: Command
Edited
L335[21:28:32] <Vaur> no I
mean, what if a bot post one of those scam links and those one time
users that do not know about discord scams click them
<Vaur> no I
mean, what if a bot post one of those scam links and those one time
users that do not know about discord scams click themL336[21:29:11] <Amanda> Vaur is
postulating a hypothetical where a newbie pops into IRC right as a
discord scam bot attacks, and gets tricked
L337[21:29:26] <Lizzy-chan> well, you cant exactly click
on links from within minecraft, and the general hope is that people
don't click unknown links in a public chat room
<Lizzy-chan> well, you cant exactly click
on links from within minecraft, and the general hope is that people
don't click unknown links in a public chat roomL338[21:29:40] <Vaur>
You'd think that right ?
<Vaur>
You'd think that right ?L339[21:29:59] <Amanda> PEople can be
stupid, but the universe will always create a better idiot
L340[21:29:59] <Vaur> yet
somehow those scam bot are running around ... because it
works
<Vaur> yet
somehow those scam bot are running around ... because it
worksL341[21:30:06] <Lizzy-chan> I have very little respect
for people who blindly click those sort of links
<Lizzy-chan> I have very little respect
for people who blindly click those sort of linksL342[21:30:32] <Vaur> I
just want to protect them from themselves 🙂
<Vaur> I
just want to protect them from themselves 🙂L343[21:30:49] <Amanda> I once posted in a
small room full of people I thought were smart about how an AIM bot
tried to scam me with <url> and like an hour later I was
getting chewed out by an idiot who went and put his mom's
ccellphone number in and got charged a lot, like. really.
L344[21:31:20] <ThePiGuy24> it seems to be mostly young
people being idiots and not checking the domain
<ThePiGuy24> it seems to be mostly young
people being idiots and not checking the domainL345[21:31:33] <Amanda> I felt bad for
awhile, even though I couldn't really be held accountable for the
fact they didn't bother to read the context around the URL just
blindly clicked
L346[21:31:45] <Amanda> but even today I
redact any scam URLs I'm talking about
L347[21:31:46] <Vaur> old
folks get scammed too
<Vaur> old
folks get scammed tooL348[21:31:54] <ThePiGuy24> hell, the "login"
page of that scam link looks wonky as hell
<ThePiGuy24> hell, the "login"
page of that scam link looks wonky as hellL349[21:32:05] <ThePiGuy24> even at a quick glance it
looks off
<ThePiGuy24> even at a quick glance it
looks offL350[21:33:12] <Amanda> everyone can be
scammed. all it takes is a slip-up after a late night, really
L351[21:33:23] <Amanda> Anybody who claims
to be immune is lying
L352[21:33:29] <Vaur>
certainly
<Vaur>
certainlyL353[21:33:40] <Izaya> gain immunity by
uninstalling your web browser
L354[21:35:14] <Lizzy-chan> gain immunity by thinking
"hang on, why am i going outside of discord and being asked to
sign back in and give my 2fa code again for this"
<Lizzy-chan> gain immunity by thinking
"hang on, why am i going outside of discord and being asked to
sign back in and give my 2fa code again for this"L355[21:36:29] <Lizzy-chan> above is obviously specific
to the nitro scams, but that's what's common right now
<Lizzy-chan> above is obviously specific
to the nitro scams, but that's what's common right nowL356[21:36:32] <Amanda> .... the hell is
using all the postgres sockets on my homelab
L357[21:36:41] <Vaur> You
are thinking about it rationally with the power of hindsight and
lack of spontaneity
<Vaur> You
are thinking about it rationally with the power of hindsight and
lack of spontaneityL358[21:36:53] <Corded> *
<Lizzy-chan> swears, disconnects herself from amanda's
server and runs off
L359[21:36:58] <Amanda> A professional
game dev at a large AAA studio I know recently fell victim to a
steam account hijacking scam
L360[21:37:18] <Amanda> _nobody_ is immune
to human error
L361[21:37:33] <Forecaster> what about fox error
<Forecaster> what about fox errorL362[21:37:47] <Amanda> everytjing foxes
do is an error, those abominations of nature
L363[21:37:54] <Vaur> even
one of the scambaiter almost got his youtube account stolen by a
scammer
<Vaur> even
one of the scambaiter almost got his youtube account stolen by a
scammerL364[21:39:07] <Lizzy-chan> unrelated: sitting in the
discord for LuckPerms (permission plugin for spigot/vanilla
servers) makes me think that not everyone who's setting up a
minecraft server probably should be lol
<Lizzy-chan> unrelated: sitting in the
discord for LuckPerms (permission plugin for spigot/vanilla
servers) makes me think that not everyone who's setting up a
minecraft server probably should be lolL365[21:40:02] <Izaya> kids will be
kids
L366[21:40:46] <Z0idberg>
You wouldn't believe what I made, Izaya
<Z0idberg>
You wouldn't believe what I made, IzayaL367[21:40:53] <Z0idberg>
damn I need a good paste site
<Z0idberg>
damn I need a good paste siteL368[21:40:55] <Izaya> try me
L369[21:40:58] <Lizzy-chan> pastebin
<Lizzy-chan> pastebinL370[21:41:01] <Lizzy-chan> hastebin
<Lizzy-chan> hastebinL371[21:41:03] <Lizzy-chan> gist
<Lizzy-chan> gistL372[21:41:11] <Z0idberg>
Izaya doesn't like JS enabled sites
<Z0idberg>
Izaya doesn't like JS enabled sitesL373[21:41:26] <Lizzy-chan> just give him the raw
link
<Lizzy-chan> just give him the raw
linkL374[21:41:29] <Lizzy-chan> 🙂
<Lizzy-chan> 🙂L375[21:41:30] <Z0idberg>
oh yeah
<Z0idberg>
oh yeahL377[21:42:13] <Izaya> dorf fort
exporter?
L378[21:42:21] <Vaur> I
haven't completly finished the ceiling, but here is the machine
room https://tinyurl.com/y3kvbc5k
<Vaur> I
haven't completly finished the ceiling, but here is the machine
room https://tinyurl.com/y3kvbc5kL379[21:42:40] <Lizzy-chan> also i don't quite know how
i've managed it, but clicking links in discord, if they're images
or text, get opened in my local picture viewer / text editor
<Lizzy-chan> also i don't quite know how
i've managed it, but clicking links in discord, if they're images
or text, get opened in my local picture viewer / text editorL380[21:42:56] <Lizzy-chan> might be a kde thing
<Lizzy-chan> might be a kde thingL381[21:43:12] <Ocawesome101> KDE does that, yes
<Ocawesome101> KDE does that, yesL382[21:43:24] <Ocawesome101> i think there's a way to
disable it but i'm not certain how
<Ocawesome101> i think there's a way to
disable it but i'm not certain howL383[21:43:39] <Z0idberg>
Yeah! It prepares some files that I'm using to convert Dwarf
Fortress data for a database server so that Ic an create a webapp
that performs graphical visualizations on it.
<Z0idberg>
Yeah! It prepares some files that I'm using to convert Dwarf
Fortress data for a database server so that Ic an create a webapp
that performs graphical visualizations on it.L384[21:43:45] <Lizzy-chan> i'm not too fussed, it's
actually quite convenient for most things
<Lizzy-chan> i'm not too fussed, it's
actually quite convenient for most thingsL385[21:43:48] <Z0idberg>
you'll be able tod o things like look at family trees, etc
<Z0idberg>
you'll be able tod o things like look at family trees, etcL386[21:44:09] <Lizzy-chan> though i had to tell it not
to try and use fucking winebrowser for everything after i installed
wine packages -_-
<Lizzy-chan> though i had to tell it not
to try and use fucking winebrowser for everything after i installed
wine packages -_-L387[21:50:15] <Amanda> ThePiGuy24: here's
my server which handles CI for my nix stuff: 162789 store paths
deleted, 266041.94 MiB freed
L388[21:50:39] <ThePiGuy24> aaa
<ThePiGuy24> aaaL389[21:51:31] <Amanda> I should add
alerts for my /nix store filling up
L390[21:58:00] <Amanda> ThePiGuy24 appears
that freed ~40% of my homelab's nix store, meanwhile my laptop went
from <10% to 40%
L391[21:58:09] <Amanda> ( free )
L392[21:58:21] <Z0idberg>
@Lizzy-chan So, I am in a lot of trouble
<Z0idberg>
@Lizzy-chan So, I am in a lot of troubleL393[21:58:28] <Lizzy-chan> ?
<Lizzy-chan> ?L394[21:58:44] <Z0idberg>
I'm getting married this september and I don't know wtf to do
<Z0idberg>
I'm getting married this september and I don't know wtf to doL395[21:58:54] <Lizzy-chan> ah
<Lizzy-chan> ahL396[21:58:59] <Lizzy-chan> idk how i can help with
that
<Lizzy-chan> idk how i can help with
thatL397[21:59:02] <Lizzy-chan> since i'm single
<Lizzy-chan> since i'm singleL398[21:59:08] <Lizzy-chan> ¯\(ツ)/¯
<Lizzy-chan> ¯\(ツ)/¯L399[21:59:10] <Lizzy-chan> good luck
<Lizzy-chan> good luckL400[21:59:11] <Forecaster> run away to mexico
<Forecaster> run away to mexicoL401[21:59:15] <ThePiGuy24> Amanda: well im even more
glad that i dont use nix ;p
<ThePiGuy24> Amanda: well im even more
glad that i dont use nix ;pL402[21:59:22] <Z0idberg>
I'm just being silly but I'm not lying either haha
<Z0idberg>
I'm just being silly but I'm not lying either hahaL403[21:59:40] <ThePiGuy24> hell, even pacmans cache
fills up too quick for my tastes
<ThePiGuy24> hell, even pacmans cache
fills up too quick for my tastesL404[21:59:41] <Amanda> Who can guess when
my weekly automatic depdency update happens on my nix config repo?
:P
L405[21:59:53] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/OwQgfFkMuapJbnrWbOLWwxII/screenshot-1642024756.png
L406[22:00:08] <Forecaster> set up a dead-mans-switch to
wipe your system if you don't return
<Forecaster> set up a dead-mans-switch to
wipe your system if you don't returnL407[22:00:46] <Amanda> ThePiGuy24: With
nix it's not so much cached stuff, as a full working set of system
packages
L408[22:00:58] <Amanda> but when stuff
like gcc updates, that means everything updates
L409[22:01:05] <Amanda> meaning a new
package
L410[22:01:10] <Amanda> meaning doubling
the usage
L411[22:01:24] <ThePiGuy24> yes i am aware of how nix
works, but i dislike using excessive amounts of space
<ThePiGuy24> yes i am aware of how nix
works, but i dislike using excessive amounts of spaceL412[22:01:35] <Z0idberg>
omg Amanda did you see what glibc did?
<Z0idberg>
omg Amanda did you see what glibc did?L413[22:01:38] <Amanda> I'm pretty happy
with nix
L414[22:01:43] <Z0idberg>
they literally demodularized their entire library
<Z0idberg>
they literally demodularized their entire libraryL415[22:01:51] <Z0idberg>
and was like "it shouldn't hopefully break
anything?"
<Z0idberg>
and was like "it shouldn't hopefully break
anything?"L416[22:02:15] <Z0idberg>
Well Slackware changelog came out and guess what they said "it
breaks everything"
<Z0idberg>
Well Slackware changelog came out and guess what they said "it
breaks everything"L417[22:02:17] <Z0idberg>
XD
<Z0idberg>
XDL418[22:02:20] <Amanda> @Z0idberg open
sores at it's best
L419[22:02:21] <ThePiGuy24> i tried nixos for a while but
i didnt really like the feel of it
<ThePiGuy24> i tried nixos for a while but
i didnt really like the feel of itL420[22:02:41] <ThePiGuy24> just felt like a rather brute
force way of not breaking dependencies
<ThePiGuy24> just felt like a rather brute
force way of not breaking dependenciesL421[22:02:51] <Z0idberg>
isn't nixos a bit extreme?
<Z0idberg>
isn't nixos a bit extreme?L422[22:03:04] <Amanda> It's rather
extreme yes, but I'm happy with it
L423[22:03:18] <Amanda> it's super nice
having my entire system config version managed, down to what
packages I have installed
L424[22:03:29] <dequbed> @Lizzy-chan fancy
over-engineered solution would be to make Corded relay messages
from Discord with a let's say 200ms delay and if Evey swings the
banhammer in those 200ms to drop the messages. It's short enough to
not hinder (human) flow of communication but long enough to catch
spambots that don't try to appear human.
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L426[22:03:58] * S3
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L427[22:04:21] <Lizzy-chan> I looked at nixos a while
back, one day if my adhd sits just right i might trudge my way
through it and set stuff up with it, but for now i'm happy with
manual adjustment of arch
<Lizzy-chan> I looked at nixos a while
back, one day if my adhd sits just right i might trudge my way
through it and set stuff up with it, but for now i'm happy with
manual adjustment of archL428[22:04:57] <Amanda> TPG: One upside to
this, is I know for a fact that my server wouldn't work after this
config, because django's broken, so I can't even do the
upgrade.
L429[22:05:11] <Amanda> Speaking of, time
to look through the PRs to see which I need to hunt for when I can
do the update
L430[22:05:18] <ThePiGuy24> upside?
<ThePiGuy24> upside?L431[22:05:22] <Lizzy-chan> >dequbed:
<@!125573811327205376> fancy over-engineered solution would
be to make Corded…
<Lizzy-chan> >dequbed:
<@!125573811327205376> fancy over-engineered solution would
be to make Corded…L432[22:05:22] <Lizzy-chan> corded is Michiyo's baby, but
i might submit a PR to it when i next feel like beating java with a
rusty pole after i've finished beating it for this plugin i'm
making
<Lizzy-chan> corded is Michiyo's baby, but
i might submit a PR to it when i next feel like beating java with a
rusty pole after i've finished beating it for this plugin i'm
makingL433[22:05:54] <Amanda> TPG: Compared to
the alternative of an imporant thing I use not working at all after
an update, yah
L434[22:06:05] <Amanda> It just doesn't
build, and thus dosn't update
L435[22:06:31] <ThePiGuy24> ah i misread that message as
if you were going ahead with it anyway
<ThePiGuy24> ah i misread that message as
if you were going ahead with it anywayL436[22:06:35] *
dequbed mounts solid rocket boosters to S3's chair
L437[22:06:41] <dequbed> @Lizzy-chan sure
have fun :P
L438[22:07:38] <Lizzy-chan> coding python i feel i'm
writing a decent story or poem. coding java i feel like i'm just
beating it into submission
<Lizzy-chan> coding python i feel i'm
writing a decent story or poem. coding java i feel like i'm just
beating it into submissionL439[22:08:12] <dequbed> Try Scala! It
feels like *getting* beaten into submission :P
L440[22:08:48] <Lizzy-chan> please, the uk government and
media already does that
<Lizzy-chan> please, the uk government and
media already does thatL441[22:08:48] <ThePiGuy24> anything jvm is the realm of
masochism and/or sadism depending on who else you subject to
it
<ThePiGuy24> anything jvm is the realm of
masochism and/or sadism depending on who else you subject to
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L444[22:10:50] <ThePiGuy24> also nice my internet just
died again randomly
<ThePiGuy24> also nice my internet just
died again randomlyL445[22:11:06] <ThePiGuy24> and as of sending these
messages, still is
<ThePiGuy24> and as of sending these
messages, still isL446[22:11:42] <Lizzy> pog
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L448[22:12:10] <dequbed> A Lizzy!
L449[22:12:12] *
dequbed screams
L450[22:12:24] <Lizzy> A me!
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L452[22:12:47] <Lizzy> decided to boot up
konversation instead of having to keep switching back and forth
between discord guilds
L453[22:12:51] <Forecaster> Mario? is that you
<Forecaster> Mario? is that youL454[22:13:14] <dequbed> Lizzy: I'd hand
the queen her crown back but I think Amanda pushed it of it's
pedestal a while back.
L455[22:13:30] <Amanda> I'm innocent!
Slander!
L456[22:13:52] <Lizzy> sounds about
right
L457[22:13:59] *
Lizzy gives Amanda scritches
L458[22:14:22] *
Amanda purrs softly, while slowly pushing Lizzy's keyboard off her
desk
L459[22:14:36] *
Lizzy glare
L460[22:15:22] <dequbed> Lizzy: Do it like
me. My keyboard is 80% steel and weights a metaphorical ton. And
Amanda is *strong*, but strong *for a cat*. ;)
L461[22:15:47] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL462[22:15:48] <MichiBot> You drink a
smooth green potion (New!). Forecaster recovers some mana.
L463[22:16:12] <Lizzy> to be fair, falling
off my desk will be the least punishment it's had... I occasionally
get bouts of extreme iritability and usually it's my keyboard that
ends up taking the brunt of my anger (a 25 GBP keyboard is cheaper
than a ~125 GBP monitor)
L464[22:17:11] <dequbed> ... yeah I think
I'm going to get you one like mine. You can be angry at it all you
want, unless you throw it at a tank it's definitely the other end
that's losing that fight :P
L465[22:19:02] <dequbed> anyway it is
tired and I am late. o/
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L467[22:19:22] *
Amanda boops dequbed
L468[22:19:26] <Lizzy> ree
L469[22:19:29] <Lizzy> where they go
L470[22:19:45] <Forecaster> they've been terminated
<Forecaster> they've been terminatedL471[22:19:57] <Lizzy> %tell dequbed my
keyboard still works, it does occasionally doubletype but other
than that it works :P
L472[22:19:58] <MichiBot> Lizzy: dequbed
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L473[22:24:42] <ThePiGuy24> i have a cheap dell oem
keyboard (sk-8115) that has been going for over 15 years and it has
yet to sustain any non-cosmetic damage
<ThePiGuy24> i have a cheap dell oem
keyboard (sk-8115) that has been going for over 15 years and it has
yet to sustain any non-cosmetic damageL474[22:25:06] <ThePiGuy24> i even threw it out my
bedroom window at some point, dont remember why
<ThePiGuy24> i even threw it out my
bedroom window at some point, dont remember whyL475[22:48:38] <Amanda> %choose laptop nap
time?
L476[22:48:39] <MichiBot> Amanda: Oh,
I've heard about that. You'll want to wait until tomorrow.
L477[22:48:44] <Amanda> no.
L478[22:48:56] *
Amanda flops down around Elfi, loads up the LP she was watching
last night
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L481[23:14:14] <lunar_sam>
i have a cheap mech keyboard
<lunar_sam>
i have a cheap mech keyboardL482[23:14:21] <lunar_sam>
i spilled milk on it and it still works
<lunar_sam>
i spilled milk on it and it still worksL483[23:14:22] <lunar_sam>
:)
<lunar_sam>
:)L484[23:15:29] ⇦
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L487[23:38:57] <Kristopher38> My uni is gonna attempt
writing an out-of-order CPU implementation and guess who's gonna
participate
<Kristopher38> My uni is gonna attempt
writing an out-of-order CPU implementation and guess who's gonna
participateL488[23:39:48]
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